Ranking the Bosses from Mario and Luigi Bowser's Inside Story

[@ShroobInvader]

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[@Thelegendaryredlegend]

Mario and Luigi Dream Team Bosses ranked live

[@Apple-uw2uk]

do the bros attacks for bowser

[@PoketronPokey404]

I will suggest something you never did before which is to rank area exclusive bosses. For example desert bosses only. Also I got one more being the top 6 sacrifices and plus there are only six in total from what I understand being Geno, Tippi, Kersti, Huey, Bobby, and Olivia. My idea of rule categories are the emotional buildup, What you’ve been through together good or bad, and last would be the reaction of sacrifice by the player and the character themselves (I didn’t include how far and long you experienced with the character because I want to give Bobby a fair chance.) I would love to see both of these ideas get a video because as far as I am aware this has never been done on your channel before Shroob Invader. Have a good Career as well as a good summer and future. 😁👍🏻

[@spoiledmilk505]

Is paper jam really that bad?

[@PoketronPokey404]

@@spoiledmilk505 It really depends on what you like and don’t like. I personally love almost everything about the game. The only Downer is the turned down possibility of the paper Koopalings and Paper luigi, but I do understand why he is not playable and that would be because in partners in time you either move one duo, the other, or combined via piggyback. Paper luigi would be hard to handle because it would probably add one extra person in line and the play forming would be difficult.

[@hideforblue1364]

What happend at 23:58? Forgot to cut that out? ^^

[@wackywakko6694]

Can I point out the fact durmite is harder in the remake because the string attack is 11 frames and specifically Mario jumps has 3 frames which makes it having 8 frame problem to jump yes this problem can sometimes happen to Luigi

[@ShroobInvader]

I need to replay the remake again to see that in action

[@LogHead478]

I remember when I did the Durmite boss fight in the remake for my channel a year ago, It took me 5 tries to dodge Durmite’s string attack because of how slow it is. I found the trick to dodging it though. If you look closely, there’s a shadow made by the string. If you jump just as the shadow from the string touches you, you’ll be able to dodge it. It took me so many tries to discover how to dodge that attack to begin with.

[@polymerwario]

How many jump frames does Luigi have? I'm actually surprised yet also not shocked to find out they have different frame times to jump lol

[@RobertoLimaYT2]

Yeah the Drumite boss in the remake is much harder than the original, on the og version I beat it in one try, the remake it took me like 7 tries

[@Driggsdamonstah]

My Ranking: 18. Scutlet (It’s a fun fight but it’s way too basic.) 17. Alpha and Beta Kretin (Takes way too long and there’s no elemental weaknesses or Broken attacks to spam either.) 16. Junker (The complete opposite issue of Kretin. Shame too, it’s got the concept of an S-tier boss.) 15. Bowser’s Castle (The basic tutorial boss for the giant battles.) 14. Wiggler (A pretty serviceable fight but nothing special.) 13. Tower of Yikk (A fine boss, but Earthwake does this concept better.) 12. Durmite (I don’t understand why people hate this boss considering it’s got a lot to keep track of.) 11. Dark Fawful (I love this fight but it goes on for too long.) 10. Bowser Memory ML (Already in 10/10 territory. This fight is outstanding with attacks that match the Mario Bros and their personalities.) 9. Wisdurm (Again people are ridiculous for putting these fights so low. This I like a lot more since it’s more consistent and has a well-executed idea.) 8. Fawful Express (I’ll get the main problem out of the way. Having to blow in the mic every two seconds. Thankfully this was fixed in the 3DS port. The fight being timed is really interesting and I love all the changes to the fight being made in the blink of an eye.) 7. Midbus (I adore the concept especially how you can heal if you take any damage, but it does make the fight woefully easy and it’s not his final form either.) 6. Sea Pipe Statue (Let’s hear it for the best first boss in the series as it tests your knowledge of the vacuum block, and how bosses will work with Bowser at the wheel.) 5. Dark Star (A surprisingly tough fight as you take down the Satellmites to be able to damage the star itself. However it takes too long and without its original composition in the 3DS version, the fight feels stripped.) 4. Super Peach’s Castle (Without question, the best Giant battle in the series with how this fight counteracts every problem I had the the other giant battles in this game. Besides, black holes are a cooler concept than water.) 3. Bowser (This is ironically the weakest Bowser fight in the Mario and Luigi series but it still remains one of the best bosses in the series nonetheless. I love how Bowser has all of his moves that he’s learnt up to this point. Punch, fire and his current two special attacks.) 2. Blizzard Midbus (Midbus’s final form, and a phenomenal and difficult fight. All of the snow attacks, and the Snawfuls add a lot of flair to this fight and this fight is what I picture when I hear the generic boss theme in this wonderful game.) 1. Dark Bowser (The final boss is easily the best boss in the Mario series. The stakes? High. The difficulty? High. The setting atop Peach’s Castle? Superb. The gameplay? Outstanding! The Dark Star Core fight? Amazing! This is easily one of my favorite video game bosses, and I hope you can see why.)

[@ShroobInvader]

Good list :D

[@wackywakko6694]

I think people hate durmite has to do with the remake making her a big problem especially with her string being hard to dodge in the remake

[@wackywakko6694]

@DarkCoreX no I don't hate the fight I just find it hard but not frustratingly hard I find the fight fun in remake even if it's harder I just pointing the fact that some people hate the boss for being insanely buffed that's why I said that

[@baofleurence7650]

I love the fact that even Bowser says that Dark Bowser knows how to put up an athmosphere for a final battle (and he knows about this stuff, he's been a final boss in like 30 games).

[@GreatBuckeyeGamer]

I get your feelings about Bowsers Castle but picture how someone sees the fight playing it for the first time. Bowser just got crushed by his own castle and you play this mini game as the bros. Then Bowser becomes gigantic and chucks his castle away. I don’t mind the simplicity of this fight because for newcomers it introduces special fights that would later be explored in future games.

[@GeorgeMarionerd]

I think it would've been really fun to have like a quartet of different Shroob varieties for the Cold storage fight. Make it more diverse and boss-like.

[@ShroobInvader]

Very much agreed

[@cannabishornliu6119]

​@@ShroobInvader Yeah. Partners in time had a lot of Shroob variations. It would be very cool if the switched out two of the other Shroobs for two of their variants or even one of the Partners in time bosses.

[@tiroman889]

Honestly Super Peach's Castle of Fury is one of the most underrated bosses in the series and it deserves more recognition.

[@ShroobInvader]

For a giant battle it is definitely better than expected

[@thelolmaster12]

I agree but the other 3 are just way too easy both original and remake

[@AceFaz]

It was just a really cool boss fight in general, not just for this series, but in general

[@MageOfDarkness69]

Hey fellas, I'm kinda sad that they never made a 3ds version of Partners in Time, but happy that there 3ds versions of Superstar Saga and Bowser's Inside Story

[@jjslider3026]

Kretin is so much worse when you do a no bros attack Challenge Medal run, really highlights how repetitive the fight is. By contrast, Junker gets more challenging, I like it

[@ShroobInvader]

Ok fair for both and that sounds awful for Kretin

[@supermaximglitchy1]

@@ShroobInvader kretin has like 1 positive thing he has multiple names (in Europe it’s spelled keratin)

[@DefinitivNichtSascha]

Small correction on the Shroobs: You can't fight them right after getting out of Bowser. You need both the Drill Bros. move from the Energy Hold as well as being able to inflate Mario with air, which makes the fight accessible after defeating Bowser Memory ML and obtaining the second Star Cure at the earliest. I agree with the fact that it's a bit strange to have the Bros. with no bosses between Bowser Memory ML and Junker. I feel they could've added one in Dimble Wood, particularly after the Bros. reunite following Mario's kidnapping by the Sockops. Instead, we just have a mandatory battle with four regular enemies. Speaking of places where bosses should've been added: Bowser really needed another regular boss. He gets five, being the Sea Pipe Statue, Wiggler, Midbus, Blizzard Midbus and Dark Fawful. It's pretty clear to see between which two there is a gigantic gap, and it's because both the Tower of Yikk and the Fawful Express come between them. You get up to four new Minion Attacks between Midbus and Blizzard Midbus, but no boss to use them on beforehand. If I were to add one, I'd probably put it in Bupsy Plains after Bowser learns the ground pound. Maybe right before Bowser Path as a sentry that Fawful stationed there. With a mechanic that has multiple minions that also can't be inhaled so that Bowser's multitarget-moves actually get some importance. I like Blizzard Midbus, but he could really do with another attack or two. The attack that he does in tandem with the Snawfuls never actually occurs if you just immediately inhale them, to which there is no point in not doing. It also brings up again the fact that Bowser's multitarget-moves are not all that useful in boss fights. Yet again, we kind of get this same issue with Dark Bowser. There's little reason to use anything on him but Broggy Bonker, so just having some minions around (that can't be vacuumed) would be nice. Dark Star Core, however, is amazing. The Final Boss demonstrates really well that Bowser's regular battles were just the tiniest bit underdeveloped. They don't really have any gimmicks beside occassionally inhaling smaller targets for Mario & Luigi to assist, and thus, Bowser's contribution in boss battles really just boils down to hit the enmy with brute force (then again, that fits his character). It's a minor nitpick about this amazing game that I've only really realised on my latest playthrough.

[@NATR_OFICIAL]

Small correction zddd

[@rayquaza5059]

Challenge Medal goes a long way to making this game harder. It makes so many enemies after you leave Bowser hit way harder and tank longer. I’ve picked it up on every playthrough after my first. You’d probably enjoy the game more with it.

[@GreatBuckeyeGamer]

I like Dark Fawful as a boss but that GODDAMN GOOMBA ATTACK has been the cause of many game overs because it’s so hard to counter.

[@ctpp64]

it does an insane amount of damage too

[@kaijuge6934]

I don't know how you can think the Dark Bowser atmosphere isn't great. That final boss has stuck with me since middle school, and even after college, it's kind of a gold standard of final bosses to me. There are others that compete, but Dark Bowser was the first masterpiece of a final boss I saw, and it holds up for me to this day.

[@inciniumz4671]

Wanna know something cool I noticed regarding the Shroob fight? The Bros attack they give you is a reference to Partners in Time, in both that the window is apparently a reference to the Shroob insignia and mostly in that the attack can be performed infinitely, like bros attacks in Partners in Time. (Well, it could before the remake.) I thought that was a cool touch, especially since I had played Partners in Time right before Inside Story.

[@cheeseman463]

the shroobs have another good thing about it. They grant you the the best bros move in the game (not the remake), the magic mirrors, a move that can do infinite damage depending on your button inputs.

[@voltron77]

Wait, the reason why the Dark Bowser fight is so good is because it has a perfect atmosphere it’s a fight at the top of the world where two titans clash against each other.

[@spritepepsiplushes8353]

Blizzard midbus segment was... interesting

[@TheBrixHub]

Too many takes, not enough proof-watching 😅🤣

[@hyperfairy7779]

Blizzard midbus segment was... interesting

[@ctpp64]

@@hyperfairy7779 Blizzard midbus segment was... interesting

[@eclipse9727]

Just found this video on my reccomended. It's a very well produced video, even if it's very different from the results I expected. Though, as a critique, mind the retakes on Number 6 and 5. I initially thought it was me mishearing at 6... but definitely heard it once I heard in 5. There could be others that I didn't pick up, but those are the most notable. Other than that, This video is great! Delivery, structure, etc is on point.

[@ShroobInvader]

Yeah I was editing the video at 1 am and was talking to a friend at the same time ☠️ thank you otherwise :D

[@benjaminizquierdo4700]

The atmosphere in the dark bowser fight is great! What are you saying man, like bowser says there’s a literal dark hurricane, not to mention, everyone you’ve met on your adventure, and the entire world is 1 step away from straight up DYING, the atmosphere is insane!

[@marijndevries2654]

The level-scaling issue is IMO because in Bowser's Inside Story it feels like you have 'freedom' in exploring the Mushroom Kingdom with Mario and Luigi (this can also apply with Bowser, but way less). I definitely feel like Dark Bowser with the Challenge Medal should have been the base difficulty (or at least its Health and Defense. Power could have been a bit overboard as with the Challenge Medal Dark Bowser can KO Bowser in one attack. But still more Power was needed). And maybe Dark Bowser should have had 2000 Health instead of 1500 (which is with the Challenge Medal). The Dark Star core should also have more Health and Defense, because I want the cycle to be at least 2 (it is the final boss after all).

[@taraktaras7327]

It's so sad that Shroob Invader gained severe memory loss after Blizzard Midbus

[@benrusnak.929]

Bro got the ice King treatment

[@henrytheanglerfish6290]

Scutlet is the greatest boss in the M&L series solely due to the fact that you can wallop Starlow with a hammer

[@ShroobInvader]

Jesus I mean that is fair you do hurt starlow a decent amount 🤣

[@GeorgeMarionerd]

As a kid I'd miss on purpose so she wouldn't get mad at me

[@maxcoleman11037]

@@GeorgeMarionerd I can just see you doing that

[@zaden2009]

I see that you are remaking your older videos! Nice! And i like your new thumbnails as well! Also, Your first video is over 2 years old

[@ShroobInvader]

I know it’s insane how old these videos have gotten

[@zaden2009]

@@ShroobInvader i think you should remake your dream world ranking video

[@awesomeocelot7475]

You should do a video about your own concept for a M&L game like areas,main antagonist(s) and crew,the third (and 4th) playable character,special/bros attack,bosses,plot,etc!

[@ShroobInvader]

That would be interesting

[@awesomeocelot7475]

@@ShroobInvader it really would be! I’d love to see who the other 2 playable characters would be in your concept. Toad? Yoshi? Nabbit? Bowser Jr? Kamek?

[@Evanxbdlt]

I have not tried it myself in my playthrough. But another great thing about bowser in number 2 is that if you never unlocked the shy guy squad when playing through the castle entrance (by simply ignoring it) then bowser actually won't use shy guy squad. Assuming what I said could be correct I think its a pretty neat detail in the game and makes the bowser boss even more impressive than it already is.

[@cosmicspacething3474]

30:55 and they had the perfect chance to add a Mario & Luigi X bonus fight in the remake…

[@nicholassindlinger6218]

For the longest time I couldn’t beat dark bowser because the button mashing for inhaling the core was too intense

[@ShroobInvader]

Oof, that will mess you up if you can’t do that

[@nicholassindlinger6218]

@@ShroobInvader yep but I beat him

[@djdrizzy9139]

It was hard for me too, until I learned you can mash BOTH X and Y, and I never lost since.

[@supermaximglitchy1]

some comments on the rankings kretin: (his name is keratin in europe ver.) the remake did make everything slower and I finally do agree on that wigler: your complaint about the goomba storm… it’s made easier in the remake shroobs: it’s just the same, their attacks are just like the shroob guardians, their team attack is changed to be easier(wich wasn’t needed) junker: I like that it’s higher this time, but I still don’t get it why it’s too easy (probably my playstyle’s way different) stone blooper: he has 3 attacks (pipe launch, ground pound, self launch) and his third attack isn’t linked to him getting hit anymore fawful express: I didn’t like it either but it wasn’t the firebreath but the kilomole limit (rest is ok) midbus: he might have “too low hp” but the hp from the previous one is 430 to 950 wich is double dark star: his attacks got way slower and his x-fight are faster wich is opposite to what the ds game did (wich was unique from the other x-bosses) wisdurm: you’re talking about the ds version but you show the 3ds fight, and I do see why she’s higher because she has more hp (1240) than dark star (but what about his invincible state) bowser memory ML: they don’t heal eachother, only L does the healing vacuum helmet: how many enemies did you farm to do that, he has like 1234 hp bowser: his hp is like the highest (around 1240) for the mario & luigi fights making the later ones worse dark bowser: his extra 280 hp buff (wich is a weird amount) still seems too few (especially with the broggy bonkers buff) challenge medal: this was added because they knew about the level scaling issue forehand (instead of fixing it) but the remake nerfed it’s effect

[@wackywakko6694]

Top 5 bosses in inside story to me: 5.Bowser: a great fight with the bros against bowser fighting him with the moves he learns during the adventure in that point but his X form tho is a different story 4. Dark fawful a great final battle against the mastermind who wants revenge on Mario & Luigi for beating him in Superstar Saga also have a good balance for bowser and the bros to beat fawful 3.Bowser Memory ML: a boss fight against yourself(Mario & Luigi) yes please please a great concept fight 2. Blizzard Midbus: A hard but fair boss fight keeping you the player to understand his mechanics 1. Dark bowser: the best fight in the game and also a great way to end to this great game

[@ShroobInvader]

good list :D

[@michaeljosiahwarren3350]

31:25 bowsers health is actually dependent on how much you have when you play as him so can make the fight harder or easier for yourself

[@hodgepodgejim]

Also if you skip unlocking the Shy Guy Squad he won’t use it in his boss fight which is really nice attention to detail When I was little I had a lot of trouble countering his shy guy move so I would reset the save and deliberately skip it just to make the boss easier

[@trist5206]

Idk if you’ve done this yet, but for a video suggestion, I suggest you rank all the areas in all the Mario and Luigi games in one video. I, and probably many others wanna see what your favorite location is throughout all the Mario and Luigi games

[@spouwnerring]

I find it really trippy that when playing as giant Bowser in the DS version, Bowser is on the left of the screen facing right and the boss is on the right side facing left (just like the giant fights in Dream Team). However in the remake it's reversed and IDK why the devs made it that way.

[@supermaximglitchy1]

you can change that in the settings that was the case in dream team at least

[@DefinitivNichtSascha]

They did that in Dream Team it because they realised that you cover up the right screen with your hand if you're right handed. If you play in left-handed mode, the fights will be mirrored and Luigi/Bowser will be on the left as well.

[@Hello_World_not_taken]

BIS DX should have had the bowser and bros bosses as X-bosses, too Change my mind

[@ShroobInvader]

Nope I agree, imagine a Blizzard Midbus X

[@Hello_World_not_taken]

Thank you! And there could have been something from PiT or SS as the final X-boss in the medley

[@gdriskyplane3389]

The bosses in this game aren’t the best in my opinion but I must admit the fight with the dark star is awesome

[@ShroobInvader]

I agree with all of that

[@unknight8999]

Every time you talk about the level scaling I personally don’t know what it’s like because I never played the original.

[@ShroobInvader]

yeah that's fair then, lets just say that bosses like Wisdurm and Bowser Memory ML are much harder than Dark Star and Junker

[@GenesisSonicN64Mario]

Fun fact: In the battle arena (at least on the 3ds version which I played) Bowser is the "secret" boss, and in the arena version, he's even better! All his attacks are faster, the Shy Guy squad especially, and he gets a new attack where he grows big and shoots big fireballs down at the bros! He then chases them to the side where they have to dodge fire and jump on a spring to get away. This fight was especially hard to do with the challenge ring.

[@JohnJohnson100]

23:45 do we know about the level scaling being bad yet

[@carlyskolnik296]

Great video! I’m happy my fave got higher! I wasn’t expecting it! I was so happy it got into top 5! Excited for the next one too! My top 3: 3: Dark Bowser + Dark Star Core 2: Blizzard Midbus 1: Wisdurm Yeah no change except I added my third fave. My top 2 did not change.

[@ShroobInvader]

Nice lol and thank you :D

[@carlyskolnik296]

@@ShroobInvader you’re welcome 😇

[@multifandomfangirl9664]

I have to AGREE

[@bowser_the_flamingshell]

how is wisdurm above dark bowser?

[@MasterSockGames]

What the butt how is Dark star core numero three?!?!?

[@Shadex_Joestar]

Let's just get to the point 1)Dark Bowser(duh):this is my favorite Mario & Luigi Final Boss;the music,atmosphere,buildup and attacks are all amazing,and it is a fairly difficult fight:also,RIP 3D Final Bosses(aka Robobowser,Cackletta Soul and Dark Core Fawful) 2)Blizzard Midbus:it's a pretty good fight,a bit overrated if you ask me,but still enjoyable and with a great concept 3)Dark Star:a bit on the easy side,honestly:all I did was just Snack Basket,counter and then just whale on it with the Falling Star:I really liked the attacks and the Theme though 4)Dark Fawful:this is the least memorable out of all the Fights in the Final Area,but was also the most difficult for me,especially because of that stupid Goomba gimmick you have to do in order to counter one of his attacks:I'd say the music was pretty good though;Cackletta's Theme slowed down sounds a lot more omnious and it makes you feel like Fawful completely 1-upped her 5)Bowser:I like the concept of fighting the other Hero of the story,it gives me a Sonic Adventure vibe:his Brawl Attacks being used against you is a great concept and it makes the Battle a lot better 6)Bowser Memory Bros:the concept of fighting yourself is one of the thing I love the most about the Mario series,and it is done pretty well here;however,I think they should've been able to use Bros Attacks,since just using the classic Power-Ups makes the fight feel a bit more generic 7)Midbus:this fight gets too overlooked by the Blizzard Version:the attacks are all good,and I had a lot of fun with it 8)Wiggler:it's your typical Wiggler fight,nothing too special here;but overall it's good 9)Wisdurm:I liked the concept of the Heart Rod powering her up,but overall it was pretty easy 9)Kretin:EZ but like seriously,it's not hard in the slightest:the concept might have worked,but it's just so easy it just ruins it 10)Durmite:yeah,same things I said for Wisdurm but without the Heart Rod 11)Junker:this fight is garbage,no pun intended:just 1-2 Falling Stars and he's gone:I thought they were gonna buff the Defense in the remake,but no 12)Scutlet:1st Boss syndrome huh? I guess as a 1st Boss it works but overall it's meh 13)Blooper Statue:I forgor this existed💀 (No,I'm not gonna count the tutorial Bosses and Chackron)

[@ShroobInvader]

Yeah don’t count those tutorial bosses ☠️ but good list :D

[@SportsGaming-ll3ru]

I don’t know if it’s jsut me, but I feel like the boss fights get kind of easier the later you are in the game for the Mario bros, mostly due to the badges and items you get, minus maybe wisdrum sage who can be still a challenge, bowser fights are still difficult however

[@ShroobInvader]

I’ll just say that I talk about that a lot in this video lol

[@SportsGaming-ll3ru]

@@ShroobInvader I see people complain about partners in times items being broken like the copy flower, but no one talks about shooting star and how broken it is… AND on top of that it lowers defense

[@reed.0845]

@@SportsGaming-ll3ru yeah, you can easily take out the dark star, the junk bot, and the dark star core all in a few turns using the fallen star.

[@thundrr1929]

@@reed.0845 Yeah, hell, I *Oneshot* the God damn Dark Star Core with the Falling Star.

[@ashbowyer7792]

on Junker: "I overleveled myself and now this boss is too easy so it's not a good boss." Cope bud. Cope

[@ashbowyer7792]

The level scaling is not an issue, your playstyle is. With a pretty high degree of precision, you get to control what level you are at for the bosses. Outside of tutorials and bosses, every enemy is avoidable. As an RPG, it needs to be able to appeal to the playstyles of all its players, and therefore you can avoid every enemy possible to reach each boss very under-leveled and make it harder on yourself, kill every enemy in sight so you level up as much as you possibly can, making the player feel really powerful and take out the bosses quickly. You just aren't playing the rest of the game in a way that cooperates with how you want the bosses to be.

[@ShroobInvader]

I agree to this for almost every single boss in the Mario and Luigi games, the only issue is how long it is for when you have to fight a boss between (I think its Wisdurm but I could be wrong) and Junker. And I will say that obviously bosses will be easier if I fight every enemy which I do. But most bosses don't die like almost immediately like with Junker. So with that in mind, Yes a boss will be much MUCH easier for me compared to someone who doesn't fight anything, but to be fair, the game is designed for a balance between skipping enemies and not skipping them which is where it should be. I also will say that nowadays I don't really find Junker impressive anyways but if it didn't have the level scaling problem it would probably rise up maybe 1 or 2 spots? Not that much to be fair.

[@joshytm1236]

I can definitely see what you mean for the bottom 7 on the list! I wish I had equipped the Challenge Medal as soon as I could because honestly it felt like a fresh experience because of the hugely increased POW and health (Junker was actually a challenge lmao). Did you use the medal for your playthrough?

[@ShroobInvader]

I have no idea what the challenge medal is so I’m going to look it up lol

[@joshytm1236]

@@ShroobInvader Oh... it sounds like the perfect thing for you tbh! Basically you unlock it by doing the challenge node with the green shell and getting gold (100 hits)

[@supermaximglitchy1]

it’s 150 hits

[@mrpigg5446]

I played BIS recently as well and thought the game was surprisingly easy. I played without using gear but I still found that enemies took tons of damage. I think the enemies in BIS could benefit from having more Defence. As you said, Junker goes down without much of a struggle and I heavily agree

[@finnjager1510]

I was surprised going in Blizzard Midbus and sorta more or less completely nailed it in my first playthrough without much issue despite definitely being under advised level. Not sure wether it is from experience or just that the fight isnt really as hard as some people claim, or that the difficulty slightly spikes during this fight.

[@The-one-person-you-remember]

When I fought blizzard midbus, my bowser was so underlebeled he went from 15 to 20

[@npcmcishark7379]

I'm glad KZbin recommended this to me

[@ShroobInvader]

I’m glad your here :D

[@FuryJack07]

34:52 in my opinion it should've been guaranteed. (Like, you fight dark bowser until a certain threshold, the you fight the dark star until a certain threshold, then dark Bowser again and you can finish off the dark star, leading into the ko punch. Edit: also, the final sequence should've most definitely have included all minion attacks, remixed if course, but imagine if you punched him once, then used a minion attack, then punched him again, then the next minion attack, and then you repeat up until the final punch.

[@thealientree3821]

I am back to confirm that I also very much enjoyed Junker as well... And I have defeated the Shroobs beforehand. I used some of the beans... And Magic Window. I think the secret is to git bad. As I haven't found the Falling Star. Kind of forgot that attack and honestly... I feel good for forgetting that attack... Honestly I expected this fight to end much faster.

[@water..8320]

Man u love bowser's inside story, remember playing it when I was younger with my friends just both of us looking at the da and pointing out stuff, i personally dont like the remake that much since the original art style has so much pixel charm , so I always play the old version on the new 3Ds and I'm pretty happy with that, I really enjoyed your video and while of course some opinions differ I respect your pics! Godspeed my mans

[@ShroobInvader]

Thank you my friend and yeah the 3DS does have a more soulless art style I agree

[@kevintao3973]

My rankings: 18: Fawful express 17: Alpha Kretin 16: Wiggler 15: Bowser castle 14: Scutlet 13: Junker 12: Durmite 11: Tower of Yikk 10: Blooper Fountain 9: Midbus 8: Peach Castle 7: Wisdurm 6: Bowser 5: Dark Fawful 4: Memory ML 3: Blizzard Midbus 2: Dark Star 1: Dark Bowser Edit: You were right about Junker not having enough hp. I was LVL 28 and I killed the boss in 1 turn (without getting hit at all)

[@ericwijaya2119]

I believe I need to mention that the BiS remake version of Dark Star is slightly better than the og because of how he finally gets his own theme song, Destroy the Dark Power. Don't get me wrong, I do like the normal boss theme, but considering that we're literally up against one of the game's main antagonists, which is some sort of destructive god sealed away beneath the castle for almost plunging the world in darkness, really unfitting to give him a peppy, happy sounding song imho. Same thing with remake Dark Fawful and original Dark Fawful.

[@supermaximglitchy1]

fun fact: the attacks of dark star x in the original are slower while the remake (plus every other X-boss) just made them faster

[@_methusiel_2134]

I want to point out that the remake as make the difficulty lower (in general). Most of the boss seem to loose HP, I've played the original atleast 12 times min. Dark star in the remake stay asleep longer for example. Durmite on the other hand is harder than in the original. In the original i was thinking Durmite was just a mini boss lol ! But yeah in the majority of fights (even minions) the difficulty is lowered but not the xp you gain and the stats you gain so the game is easier when you got the the final, instead of being hard or mid.

[@Itz_YoshiMelon]

R.I.P Shroob on the discord :( anyway, good video!

[@ShroobInvader]

Thank you :D

[@zaden2009]

I was here during the premiere but i was 7 minutes into it but i didnt chat, also i didnt expect bowser to be #2!

[@ShroobInvader]

Nice and yeah it really soared up for me personally

[@MVPCrowPro]

I hate that dark star is way easier in the remake because on the original game that little laser was horrible for me because it did so much damage and the worst is dark bowser it's my favorite fight but it's too easy

[@ShroobInvader]

And this is why I want to replay the remake. At the very least I can appreciate that the dark star has its own battle theme that sounds pretty good

[@MVPCrowPro]

@@ShroobInvader yes that theme is so great

[@CrashPlays-uj7zh]

I Like how you include the remake

[@michadrzymaa2206]

God after beating super star saga i can't wait to play this game

[@ShroobInvader]

It definitely was fun to go through :D

[@michadrzymaa2206]

@@ShroobInvader im going to have a lot of fun playing as bowser. Oh and also when i made a Reddit post about you i was shocked that you comment on it XD

[@thelolmaster12]

Hey Shroob do you like fighting yourself in video games? Well Bowser fight #2 is the perfect one for you!

[@ShroobInvader]

yup lol

[@maxcoleman11037]

No one asked for it, but I'll give my list here, counting the giant battles cus why not 19: Bowser's Castle 18: Junker 17: Scutlet 16: Kretin 15: Fawful Express 14: Durmite 13: Tower of Yikk 12: Wiggler 11: Shroobs 10: Sea Pipe Statue 9: Wisdurm 8: Midbus 7: Dark Star 6: Bowser 5: Dark Fawful 4: Super Peach's Castle of Fury 3: Blizzard Midbus 2: Dark Bowser + Core 1: Bowser Memory M&L

[@aaww1010]

I love your videos I just want to ask have you tried the original DS version of these battles

[@Eggslayerrr]

32:50 bowletta with the mush badge and great force:

[@mls_fnaw2938]

I'm suggesting you should remake your final boss ranking since they have changed a lot

[@ShroobInvader]

Agreed and when I play every single game again I definitely will

[@bluepikminboi]

Am I the only one that thought the Junker fight was too long in the remake? It literally took me over 30 mins just to beat him my first time in the remake.

[@ShroobInvader]

I haven’t replayed the remake in a bit but I don’t think it would take me that long

[@astralbirthvoid02]

Shroob Invader: "The big problem with Dreamy Bowser is that he is way too weak, he is the easiest final boss of Mario and Luigi even with hard mode" Also Shroob Invader: "(Dark Bowser) This is the easiest final boss of the serie in my opinion"

[@moltenking2362]

Yeah midbus in the remake was worse due to HP. Og he had like near 1000 and I respect the removal of exp for giant bosses. I think you're always underleveled when you fought midbus in Bowser's castle.

[@ShroobInvader]

Was it really? I played the original for this video and the removal of Exp from giant battles never really bothered me

[@moltenking2362]

Yeah. They did it and Dark Fawful got the inverse. The og version is just so easy.. Have to give props it's probably my other favorite penultimate boss. That orb attack scared me, was harder overall. Ngl was a good change. For the midbus fight He was like lvl 21 apparently which was a dramatic spike. They could have let the boss retain the Health, and dock the lvl to 12. But eh, it's whatever. First RPG i played alone and still my biggest fav.

[@thealientree3821]

I feel like this'd disrespect the bosses from BIS, but I have an ironic enjoyment over Cretin. The pacing for me feels just right, even with the jumping helmet, and while they only have 1 attack for each phase, it still is kind of fun, especially the lasers. I do also like how Cretin shuffles itself. Especially when 2 forged Cretin swapped places. But really this is still far from the best, and I get it.

[@riolu477]

Its a year later and you probably know it but you never used the snack basket jump in the footage from the video, for context, in the remake you can jump with luigi making you able to actually get every snack, while its not necessary to get an excellent, it does guarantee it if you do it

[@Monkeybashplush]

Can we agree that dream time has better giant battles

[@ShroobInvader]

I would disagree but I haven’t played it in a while so possibly 🤷‍♂️

[@Monkeybashplush]

@@ShroobInvader I think this because there less slow and have more attacks but I respect your opinion

[@Petrie.]

23:58 seems like an editing error lol, you repeat yourself twice

[@Miccat87]

I'd say I agree with almost all of this list. The only thing I would change is putting Bowser Memory ML lower. Sure, the concept is neat, but the fight itself never felt all too impressive to me. Their attacks are fairly weak for that point in the game, and they actually aren't able to revive each other. Rather, only Bowser Memory L is capable of reviving Bowser Memory M. The fact that he temporarily leaves the fight does help with that, but still. I would probably rank it fairly high, just not quite #4. Also, regarding the late-game bosses, and the so-called "level scaling issue" that you brought up multiple times, I'm not sure the level scaling is actually the problem. I think it's moreso that Falling Star, and a lot of the other late-game special attacks are simply too strong. The first time I played Bowser's Inside Story, I actually never got most of the late game special attacks, and those bosses felt a lot more significant as a result.

[@reed.0845]

I don't know if I was overpowered but I killed junker in 1 turn. And the dark star core In 4 turns. Anyway I think the bosses are way too easy.

[@ShroobInvader]

Yeah I agree with that

[@jeremyreyes1817]

Okay this may be a personal opinion, but Junker is actually quite difficult if your gear is on defense rather than POW, and I guess using anything other than snack basket, magic window, and falling star, so yeah, I guess you could say you were a bit too powerful

[@wackywakko6694]

The issue with the jump helmet being slow is intentional because in the original bowser's inside story the jump helmet damage becomes much much higher if you do hit the middle of the helmet perfectly its not a weak attack its one of the strongest bros atk In the original bowser's inside story however the remake made it bad and weak and I don't agree Magic window is a actually way way more powerful than the falling star even if it's optional

[@ancestral_artemis]

Honestly i feel like i enjoy blizzard midbus more she has more attacks they’re more powerful and way more fun to dodge but nah dark bowser and the dark star core would still be like number 2.

[@ShroobInvader]

That’s fair honestly, I wish they were more difficult to soar them into the top 3

[@kevindupan7393]

My ranking: 19) Scutlet 18) Wiggler 17) Kretin 16) Bowser’s castle 15) Durmite 14) Sea pipe statue 13) Shroobs 12) Junker 11) Midbus 10) Tower of yikk 09) bowser memory M and L 08) Wisdurm 07) fawful express 06) Bowser 05) Super peach’s castle of fury 04) Dark Fawful 03) Blizzard midbus 02) Dark star 01) Dark bowser/dark star core

[@GeorgeMarionerd]

I bet that if you were playing the remake the giant bosses would be way lower, just watching the footage feels painful to me lol, they're so slow and soulless.

[@ShroobInvader]

Well they at the very least control way better than the original with flames not being used with the mic

[@GeorgeMarionerd]

@@ShroobInvader Personally I never had trouble with the mic. Tapping seems like a really lame replacement to me.

[@magmarxiogaming6717]

ok something that really bothers me about whenever I see gameplay of snack basket in the BIS remake they never jump, if you press B in the attack you can jump and they just never do it and miss food because of it

[@bdasher8556]

LMAO, I played this game almost 10 years ago and I still remember vividly hating the boss ranked at the bottom.

[@AlexisEtoile]

In my opinion Bowser X > Dark Bowser, if we forget the fact that you have only some turns and you have to fight every X bosses to fight him

[@ShroobInvader]

That’s fair, the second point of having to fight every single boss before fighting him is why I haven’t fought him yet though

[@kaijuge6934]

I HATE that train. It's a cheaty cheating cheater, and it also drove my dad crazy when I was little-he has super-sensitive hearing, and I was just blowing with everything in me. And of course there are all the tricks it pulled. And the thing was, I ran out of time at least once, and I doubt you would have put it so high if you had finally survived the ridiculously strong attacks, just for the train to reach the bridge and get away. And did I mention the healing? That train did absolutely everything I hate, from requiring a mechanic that can be messed up in so many ways, to hitting me so hard when I could barely damage it, to forcing me into a minigame to tap super fast-and I was little, so I couldn't go fast enough to not get nuked. Then it HEALS. And of course I punched the hill thing-I'd been denied the punch attack the whole chase, and now I get a genuine fight! It was unfun in almost every aspect, in my eyes-probably even without the fire requirement. Also, I loved cretin and wiggler.

[@CrashPlays-uj7zh]

I can only fight dark bowser without the magic mirror ability, and the 2 exclusive bowser abilities

[@ThePinkBabyMusic]

The giant fights in the remakes look so disgusting

[@TheBrixHub]

Agreed, they've lost so much of the charm from the original

[@phoenixofgrandeur2387]

Junker and the bosses beyond it have more HP in the remake.

[@ShroobInvader]

THANK GOD THEY DO, I wanna replay the remake just to test that

[@wackywakko6694]

Unless you use the softener gloves in the remake it lowers the enemy defense by 70% which is nasty it makes bros moves like magic window and yoohoo cannon more powerful in the remake

[@ramarriblevinsjones5709]

I missed the Premiere, great video though.

[@ShroobInvader]

Thank you and don’t worry I’m glad you still watched the video anyway :D

[@unownk2245]

I have a humble request. I would like it if you rank the X bosses as well. Some criticism from the original is faded, for example junker X has more health so you can’t wipe him out in 2 turns, and other criticism’s are amplified ( cough cretin X cough cough ), how this could work is to rank them while at the recommended level.

[@NatorGamer]

can I just say that bowsers inside story is my 4th on my ranking mario and luigi

[@ghost_rick_the_ghostian]

Say have you ever made a rank video of all shroob types? If not then you shoud i mean you are the shroob man

[@humbertox]

Can you remake the top bosses for paper jam again

[@ShroobInvader]

well I made that video a month ago so I don't really need to

[@aureliamastergoomba1278]

10:26 I fought this buddy underleveled, and then got overleveled by the time I got to the Dark Star.

[@aureliamastergoomba1278]

Yeah, levelscaling is bad.

[@clayton217]

7:33 did you know you can jump when using the snack basket?

[@snowsnowman9675]

ooo i beat the express but i didnt know about using fire for the green hill

[@zaden2009]

The first time i played this game and got to trunker my strongest attack was the meteor one 😅

[@NaveRellim34]

I wish after you beat this game that you can fight mario and Luigi as.bowder and make it ridiculously hard

[@Dominik_kiera]

Hey man I just want to tell you I still have my 3ds after all these years. But I have to ask what is your favorite 3ds game?

[@jeannel9739]

Even tho i dont play boser inside story super pech calse seams underrated so i agree whith you

[@snoopyfr2730]

Junker would not even attack me

[@ShroobInvader]

Exactly my point lol

[@snoopyfr2730]

Yeaaah true, I just attacked before him and I did 2 star attacks then he dies lol

[@Ideenloser]

I don't even remember Dark Fawful because i was WAY TO overleveld and killed him in like 5 Attacks😅

[@jackallen6601]

Will you be doing another boss ranking on ttyd the wiki says you missed some in the original ranking 😂

[@furret1907]

You know the bosses like Junker will be more fun if you fight it grindless, right?

[@SilverSaiyanAce]

Is it even possible to get an excellent on snack basket in the remake It looks like you end up missing half of the food Or does it not require getting All but 2 food's for it

[@miraabramson1728]

I really didn't expect it to copy number one because it's the best Mario RPG boss I need to do an obvious it's dark Bowser alone in dark star core makes it better it wasn't there it would still be the best boss in Mario RPG history