Ranking the Grass Starter Pokemon Weakest to Strongest

Ranking the Grass Starter Pokemon Weakest to Strongest
Heartgold Randomizer Hardcore Nuzlocke:
• What a Fantastic Start...
Music Used:
Intro - Kirby Nightmare in Dream Land - Butter Building
Decidueye - Iki Town Day Pokemon Sun and Moon
Sceptile - Littleroot Town - Pokémon Omega Ruby
Meganium - Route 30-33 Pokemon HGSS
Chesnaught - Battle! (Trainer Battle) - Pokémon X & Pokémon Y
Torterra - Route 201 (Day) - Pokémon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl
Serperior - Route 2 (Spring_Summer) - Pokémon Black & Pokémon White
Venusaur - Battle! Kanto Gym Leader Elite Four - Pokémon Masters
Meowscarada - Nemona Battle Theme - Pokémon Scarlet & Violet
Rillaboom - Pokémon Sword & Shield - Hop Final Battle

[@AD-tj4jc]

No UNIVERSE were decidueye and mega sceptile are worse than MEGANIUM.

[@TheDragonstorm1993]

At least Decidueye is (both) Decidueye

[@thatcockatielguy1680]

Meganium should be 1st

[@zekohuehue]

@@thatcockatielguy1680 From the bottom

[@xx1nfamousjjxx531]

Facts bro

[@rampage0092]

💯💯💯 Mystic was coping hard the moment Meganium wasn’t last

[@valiantchris6456]

Meganium not placed at rock bottom? I'm surprised!

[@oilerfan871]

I think this is the person who made a video ranking the starter trios years ago and put the mono type/no special form Johto starters in first.

[@Sakurasan2023]

Same

[@oliverorchard6774]

Meganium being higher than both Decidueyes and Sceptile doesn't make sense at all. I like Meganium a lot, but it is the worst starter of all time.

[@gofglida4155]

Decidueye is awful as well. He is built like a Gen 3 Pokémon. Slow, fragile, mixed attackers. And unlike those Gen 3 Pokémon like Crawdaunt and Shiftry who got some ultra good buffs in later gens, decidueye never had anything.

[@BreakTheIce222]

@@gofglida4155 Decidueye is better because it has 2 immunities, so it can pivot into such moves easily and force switches or setup. This is better because they have the same weaknesses, same number of resists, but Meganium has no immunities. Decidueye is also better for the games it was in because it could trap wild pokes with its signature moving, making catching escape-prone pokes possible. It also has useful moves in U-Turn, Sucker Punch, & Roost (which isn't affected by weather).

[@GreyLeo]

​@@gofglida4155 Meganium beats Decidueye 1v1 it just sits on it and isn't much that Decidueye can do

[@CL361]

@@GreyLeo Um, In pretty sure SD Decidueye can kill Meganium pretty easly.

[@CL361]

@@gofglida4155 Decidueye actually is pretty solid in low-tiers. Meganium doesn't have even that. Meganium is so bad that this gen Smogon didn't even botter to make any strategy for it.

[@zamaskowany12]

Mega Sceptile should have it's attack swapped and get the contrary ability

[@delphinelavendermorgan4627]

Meganium gave me a pleasant surprise when it didn’t came at last. I’m proud of my little dinosaur flower, in all honesty I thought it would not even be in the video for a second. Made my day already. I’m also proud of Mewscarada for getting as far as it got.

[@ariesstorm9577]

Honestly Feraligatr may be my favourite Johto starter but I had fun doing a run through with Meganium when I first got Heart Gold. You just got to pick your team to accommodate green Littlefoot. I’d probably go as far as to say it’s one of my favourite grass starters.

[@IndiraDevi-tq2wq]

Dont believe his rankings to be perfect lol. Meganium is 30000% worse than decidyue.

[@delphinelavendermorgan4627]

@@IndiraDevi-tq2wq Happy to hear different opinions 😀

[@ethancostellostudent1698]

He took his opinion back in the water one🫢

[@delphinelavendermorgan4627]

@@ethancostellostudent1698 I know

[@SlowForest]

Oof. Hisuian and Alolan Decidueye are two of my favorite pokemon of all time 💀

[@somewhatstrangemogeko9494]

Same...

[@0AZ07]

Same bro

[@TheJaJe.]

They’re dog water bruh

[@SlowForest]

@@TheJaJe. actually they're owl grass smh

[@ZippiestRhyme21]

Agreed and even though they're my favorite, I can't deny how bad they are. F's in chat for my boi Rowlet.

[@rampage0092]

Gonna be real with you Mystic, that you didn’t put Meganium last is nothing short of cope.

[@naeshaunedwards7731]

I need Sceptile to get a huge buff NOW, and I don’t mean just by having the tera gimmick, but things to help it without even needing that. Sceptile needs its stats reworked, a better movepool, better ability, and if it were up to me, I’d even give it the dragon typing so it can learn draco meteor 😭

[@mardshima2070]

Sceptile needs to have its Atk and S.Atk got swapped, and then have its hidden ability changed into Sharpness or Technician. Sceptile's S.Atk works on gen3 because all Grass, Dragon, and Dark moves are special. But as physical-special split happened now it has mismatched stats and movepool. It also makes Sceptile practically loses its signature move, Leaf Blade.

[@TundraRage]

​@mardshima2070 Unfortunately the reason why sceptile had been UUBL was because it could never break through steels to crunch being resisted then.

[@rishabhanand7204]

Bro sceptile is still fine. Other grass starters like meganium or serperior are the ones that need to be buffed xD Also I agree. Since Blaziken and swampert have a secondary typing, it feels weird that sceptile is pure grass. Though tbh Torchic is my favourite gen3 starter so... Idk I haven't played with sceptile much.

[@thehollow33]

Lets be real.. we all know Swampert will be number 1 for the water starters

[@GeneralSecura]

Greninja, Hisuian Samurott and Quaquaval are solid contenders though.

[@Alastordadeer]

@@GeneralSecuraash gren solos for sure

[@dethtroy2185]

@@Alastordadeer maybe if battle bond wasn't nerfed...

[@gioanysgonzalez3396]

I appreciate you respecting my boy but Swampert is not as good as it used to be and with Greninja and Hisuian Samurott pretty much be competitive staples, it’s kind of not even a contest who’s better. I can see it in the top 3 or 4 but other than that not really number one.

[@Alastordadeer]

@@gioanysgonzalez3396 Yeah but quax is a menace too though, it’s basically a better krookodile with slightly more attack, a better typing in water cause even though ground is in my top 4 or 5 favourite typings. Water is the better type in quite a number of ways. And a water type flame charge in aqua step to help moxie sweeping. The top 5 is probably. 1: Greninja 2: H-samurott 3: Quaxquavel 4: Swampert (including mega, it only has 1 weakness in grass and with swift swim and bulk up, will beat pretty much any physical attacker one on one in rain.) 5: Is between intelleon and blastoise (including mega.) Especially since blastoise gets shell smash and intelleon is the fastest starter polemon that isn’t grass type and has the highest special attack stat out of any base starter pokemon i believe.

[@hassanmahmoud6495]

Love the analysis, scratches the tickle in my brain about some of these things

[@spectrefriends3097]

Meowscarada's speed, flower trick and ability is good

[@astridparungao4971]

The hesistance in the tone in putting Meganium above Sceptile and Decidueye is clear LMAO

[@Alastordadeer]

Well yeah, cause his intuition knows it’s cap. Mega sceptile has crazy speed and spa and leaf storm is insanely strong with it too. And if you play doubles you can pair it up with zapdos and spam discharge as it gets spa boosts to solo the opps. Base unburden sceptile with swords dance is great too. While under tailwind, a banded decidueye with poltergeist barely has switchins

[@TheGrimiore]

Honestly I feel Bulbasaur is the best starter for gen 1, as first three gyms are easily handle by Bulbasaur,

[@0AZ07]

Decidueye being my favourite pokemon 😢😅

[@LordNovaPrime1]

Mine as well

[@turboshazed7370]

Decidueye, Incineroar and Primarina are amazing starters. My favorite line of 3 honestly. Primarina being my favorite.

[@TheRynator14]

It's the 2nd worst in terms of battle, but Meganium should be bottom. This guy is just coping

[@nintendolife25]

I’m still having a hard time in believing Meganium is better than Decidueye and Sceptile. XD

[@AlphaOutlaw]

Which is fair since it simply isn't

[@KnightRaymund]

because it's not, he's wrong

[@Kittynelson4]

Serpior-Meowskarada-Rillaboom my three favs in that order

[@johnnypollack3243]

Keep up the awesome work and videos love the video

[@insaneadem5014]

I disagree with sceptiles placement. He was always a good mon on my team lol.

[@turboshazed7370]

My favorite ones are both Decidueyes, Rillaboom and Serperior.

[@tobiasgund8048]

I hope Serperior gets some decent coverage finally, especially after the Hidden Power removal.

[@laxusstrauss5945]

terablast is all what it needs

[@tobiasgund8048]

@@laxusstrauss5945 Probably, but that might be just a very temporary attack

[@dethtroy2185]

@@tobiasgund8048 terra blast is essentially the new hidden power, and hidden power fire was a fav to run on Serperior since Steel types could wall it's leaf storm boosting.

[@tobiasgund8048]

@@dethtroy2185 yup, but there is no guarantee that TB stays for gen 10 when there probably is no tera

[@jitgupta3543]

Tera blast is hidden power but better as it is more powerful in 80 base power vs 60 base power and it will get stab after you terastalize for example serperior can terastalize into a fire type and use tera blast and it will be a STAB for for serperior

[@alolanchampion]

They should buff Meganium by changing her hidden ability to either Triage or Prankster. Giving her Priority to heal, or give priority to Prankster Aromatherapy

[@gavinaaric]

Sceptile Needs a rework so badly changing it Attack and special attack would fix it

[@christianray6760]

Honestly, leaf storm and contrary, for Serperior was good enough for me.

[@bacd-nn2lg]

I knew that Meowscarada will have some really crazy fandom from the very beginning (it started from people posting kiss videos in picnic mode).🤣

[@kaos2405]

Does Dragon Dance and Swords Dance play off each other for a bigger boost or is it one or the other? I have never heard those two moves used in the same sentence or seen them together so I am wondering if there is something there.

[@TOXICGAMING-2003]

In radical red sceptile has technician. With bullets seed. And dual chop

[@leo_king94]

The Kirby music hit hard. Really cool game

[@kai_3788]

If you just swapped Decidueye’s special defense and speed stats you’d already be doing it a huge favor.

[@marcus-2777]

how doesn’t mega sceptile hit hard enough 💀💀💀

[@oilerfan871]

Meganium being mono grass and it's terrible move pool and stats should make it an automatic last place

[@zephyrreels7464]

Rare Mysticumbreon L. Ur telling me meganium is better than sceptile and Decidueye??? Cmon man

[@sarlife]

Missed opportunity to type "what makes serperior superior".

[@TheDragonstorm1993]

9:45 it got the same results Charizard gotten

[@calvinmatthews1527]

Don't care about the explanation, Decidueye should've been a mixed, fast attacker. And what were they thinking with Mega Sceptile's ability?! GameFreak maybe giving Grass starters a fair in recent gens but they still need to make up for the other gens they screwed them over.

[@kingsim9288]

Are you gonna make a no restriction scarlet and violet team?

[@the-angel-of-light-gardevoir8]

Wow… Decidueye is slower than FREAKING *GARDEVOIR* WHO IS INFAMOUS FOR BEING TOO SLOW

[@insaneadem5014]

As much as i like meganiums design, it is not better than decidueye or sceptile. Chestnaught is the worse for me, followed by meganium. Both for the same reason that you'll usually get ko'ed before you can do anything with them. I don't consider the rest of the starters bad, but I would consider sceptile to be one of the best ones just because of his speed. There've been many times in battle spot battles where i needed a grass type to land a move on something, but couldn't because they're all so slow. But sceptile is actually fast, and he has a good movepool. He's mega could go for a different ability, but it's cool in doubles if you pair him with a mon that has discharge.

[@laxusstrauss5945]

chesnaught always been 2 tiers above decydueye and was banned from the tier mega sceptile was

[@aninass]

Chesnaught is better than Meganium and Sceptile and that's a fact. There's nothing you can do about it. And as much as it hurts me, the Decidueyes too.

[@laxusstrauss5945]

​@@aninass thats what i am saying

[@aninass]

@@laxusstrauss5945 Sorry, I replied to the original commenter.

[@insaneadem5014]

@@aninass only reason I think it's worse is because it's slow and it has a 4x flying weakness and i feel like flying types are everywhere

[@Quetzal00358]

Can't wait to see my boi Meganium placed on the low spots :(

[@TheDragonstorm1993]

Good news it's still better than both Decidueyes

[@michaelsevilla3697]

mystic doesn't want to rank meganium as the worst starter as it should be because of nostalgia

[@hypernovagamingstation]

I like Meganium, but even I know it sucks badly! Desidueye has use in lower tiers and items like Choice Scarf and even Weeknees Polocy do help it. It's bulky enough to survive one super effective move that's not ice type, which, in that case, just run a Yache Berry set. Decidueue is versatile, and Meganium is not. It does the same things.

[@jonahdengler3858]

No wonder Rillaboom is my Grass-type buddy.

[@definitelyadragon1644]

Next up, top 10 underrated rock type Pokemon.

[@gioanysgonzalez3396]

I’m sorry but the Meganium part is a FREAKIN LIE! Yeah Decidueye and Sceptile aren’t that good but They at least have respectable placement in their competitive caree while Meganium was not only struggling in its PU tier but it was on the verge of untiered for 3 GENERATIONS in row! Other than that I agree with the rest of the list.

[@turboshazed7370]

I kinda have to agree yeah... Tho I wish Meganium was good.

[@rike971]

Also Meganium in Smogon tiers is outclassed by many Bulky Grass types like Roselia, Tangela, Ferroseed, Quiladin(thx Eviolite and other tools) or Vileplume

[@Cyanidebeans]

​@@rike971Heck, False Swipe Gaming even said Eviolite Bayleef may be better than Meganium

[@rockowlgamer631]

Im glad to see Meganium not at the very bottom.

[@Meramon27]

I come back to watch MysticUmbreon after a long time and the first thing I hear is Meganium is better than Decidueye and Sceptile... What the hell?

[@gatorman5547]

Any chance you could build a Pokemon XD Gale of Darkness Team?

[@zacharyjoy8724]

You want one too?! 🤩

[@SagaTheFunniest]

There is not a single Pokémon on this list surviving a mega sceptile special attack nor is he getting outsped

[@dailyclipsofpokemonunite]

nil its weird decidueye is last place cuz he actually won a grass starter tournament

[@shadowdragun]

Im pleasantly surprised Meganium isnt llast! It's still super wrong, because while ive had good meganiums they were very few and far between compared to the amount of very good sceptiles and decidueyes ive had but still, surprised!

[@AngelOfKawaii87]

I'm not so into grass type pokemon,they have to much weaknesses,I mostly choose Fire or water as a starter

[@ExcalibeonSwordofEeveelutions]

11:40 *Power Trick*

[@muddyanteater]

Rillaboom for the win! Love the whole evolutionary line

[@andytaker3073]

Combined with Obstagoon, and both forms of Toxtricity and you got yourself the band KISS in Pokemon form

[@jermainespeid4934]

To be honest I like all the grass 🍃 starter final evolution

[@yungsteveo718]

If they give Meganium trailblaze in Gen 9, it's going a problem.

[@dethtroy2185]

shouldn't serperior be running terra fire? Cause without it, it gets walled by Steel types completely. it knows Dragon Pulse to deal with Dragon types, and even if it becomes a fire type, leaf storm still counters the three types that are super effective to solo fire.

[@NellvinCervantes-gt4ot]

Walled by heatran and sap sipper Azumarill so stellar type is best for it.

[@davinnnn11]

i love treecko

[@emilyhopemeechem4183]

Grass starter idea: Mossy cyborg Japanese chin dog Grass/steel Other sci-fi theme starters are: Laser Red Panda Fire/psychic Astronaut Tardigrade Water/bug throughout whole evolution

[@galaxyrend4512]

11:44 power trick lol

[@marionbenson6094]

I leave a like just only for the thumb nail picture 🖼️

[@N7Landry]

Who knows what buffs the starters are gonna have

[@N7Landry]

@@tdog1445 truth

[@salfa_tina]

Serperior not being Grass/Dragon is a crime.

[@crawdaddy2004]

It’s gotta be Rillaboom, right? 0:02

[@pitbullseatkids2682]

I am way too happy that meganium wasnt bottom lol

[@SteamyNachos77]

The meganium lobbying needs to stop. It’s objectively the worst starter to ever exist

[@jeremysteinmark2845]

I’m sorry but Sceptile and decidueye are absolutely better then meganium and chesnaught

[@heyguysxd]

There is a huge gap in power between the top four and the rest.

[@PhirenFayt]

I love meganium, I'm a Megameganium supporter... it's not better than Sceptile or decideye unfortunately

[@jitgupta3543]

So this comment is about grass starters and ill talk about how good or bad all grass starters are in competitive Venusaur- pretty good Meganium-Trash Sceptile - Bad Torterra-it became good with shell smash Serperior- Very strong with contrary leaf storm Chestnaught- pretty mediocre Decidueye- Alright Rilaboom- Super strong Decidueye H - Alright Meowscarada- Very good

[@RobGradyVO]

Decidueye should have been speedy special attackers

[@gamingphysics2088]

Its really not that bad if you know what your doing with it I love Meganium

[@rauli9985]

Sceptile should be 7 and Meganium 6.

[@LordNovaPrime1]

How dare you sir! Decidueye is the best!....yeah i know he sucks. Hes still my favorite though

[@dionmcintosh9554]

G-max Lapras was fantastic for me

[@mellowmoonlight9771]

The Johto lover strikes again with gaslighting himself that Meganium is not the worst starter in existence.

[@MysticUmbreon]

[@tdasmal3622]

@@MysticUmbreonI’m making a canonical team for each canonical main protagonist of the games and I was wondering for hgss (using that because I don’t have crystal) what’s the best movesets for Gold/Ethan’s Ambipom and Umbreon

[@Epicplayz10101]

Ok good venasuar isnt at the bottom thats all i need

[@tobiasgund8048]

The fact that Meganium was in ZU back on SM already should tell you that it BY FAR is the worst grass starter.

[@trewmartens]

Meganium is my favorite pokemon. Chikorita is best starter

[@iso2885]

No numbering system anymore

[@jitgupta3543]

Venusaur would be better if had sludge wave which is stronger than sludge bomb

[@NeonX-rl6jj]

Having Meganium above Decidueye and Sceptile is a fail and straight biased. Base Sceptile with Unburden+Acrobatics would wipe the floor with Meganium. At least H-Decidueue can hit Ghost types with Scrappy too. Straight fail and a big L @Mystic 😕

[@dantebrante3784]

Professionals literally use Sceptile

[@nickolasellinger3353]

Meganium better get Body Press in Gen 9

[@rusttoyoung1912]

Now place Meganium, if it were the grass/fairy type it should be!

[@gofglida4155]

Renegade platinum has that little fella as a fairy type. I love it!

[@rike971]

And even then, Meganium would need more than Fairy type to be good. Like an actual movepool (Give Meganium Calm Mind, Earth Power and Sleep Powder, Game Freak, what are you waiting for), a Good hidden ability (Regenerator for example would be nice), a better statspread.

[@sazude2]

At least Meganium isn't the worst.

[@thetrainerknownasx]

Common monkey W

[@macwelch8599]

I would like to see Greninja and Meowscarda duel

[@turboshazed7370]

I feel like Meowscarada would have a slight edge due to the guaranteed critical hit from flower trick.

[@macwelch8599]

@@turboshazed7370 I agree

[@bleh491]

⁠@@turboshazed7370haven’t done any calls but if both are using protean, I think greninja with ice beam will win bc it’s faster. Theirs also the niche physical set with gunk shot

[@Slimeonian]

@@bleh491Greninja is not faster than Meowscarada. Greninja’s speed is 122, Meowscarada’s is 123

[@juniperjahir38]

⁠@@bleh491Meowscarada is faster, stronger, and more bulky than Greninja, it also has access to Sucker punch

[@Tyty_Poke_Channel]

Bros cooking all the good meat. Edit: why did I say that I'm vegetarian 💀

[@officialjaved]

What is OU?

[@TlocRevelc]

Over used meaning it's basically meta and right above it is ubers which is banned Pokemon because they're too broken

[@thebilldozer7970]

Squirtle Squad 🕶

[@axels3188]

I agree with most by Swap Secptile and Megamium around.

[@jerms4389]

Maybe I have a different take since I only do playthroughs and don’t play competitive, but Meganium and Serperior not being the bottom 2 and rillaboom taking the top spot over venusaur and meowscarada just don’t feel right. And sceptile deserves to be in the top half, never done me wrong on a playthrough

[@hankpeterschmidt8626]

Meowscarada is 100% better than Venusaur

[@Akatsukileader9]

Here come the Sceptile stans

[@Joao.Ramiro]

Its literally impossible to Meganium and Torterra being ranked higher than Sceptile and Decidueye

[@laxusstrauss5945]

torterra needed a single move to out do both in singles so it makes sense for it to be better Agree about meganium tho

[@mikeburnette2190]

I used Venusaur in GenII, and I gave it Leftovers as its held item. Its moves were Giga Drain Growth, Synthesis, and SolarBeam. I am also going to say it now, when we get new mechanics in the next games, Venusaur, Charizard, and Blastoise will have them. Mystic, I'm still going out there and calling Charizard Z for the gen VI remakes.

[@laxusstrauss5945]

Just sawp the decydueyes and meganium venusaur and serperior are above meowscarada And its perfect unlike meow venu was even considered too broken for double + being a real threat in both OU/UU And tera might get serperior banned this Gen

[@vaporterra]

Idc what people think, Meganium not being at the bottom for once is an absolute win for us Chikorita fans

[@supersumiel]

The second I saw meganium wasn’t the worst, I tuned out

[@cbggaming1463]

Meganium's kit is pretty bad. I think Sceptile, as mediocre as it is, would still be better, and decidueye is definitely better. The upper half is pretty spot on though. I liked that you mentioned the OP RillaSneasler combo, since that was quite strong for some time.

[@TheDragonstorm1993]

Both Decidueye being ranked the worst is a instant like

[@MonosDBZ.]

🤓

[@TheDragonstorm1993]

@@MonosDBZ. 🏋️

[@blacksheep7741]

Not the way I use him