Ranking the Hoenn Gym Leaders by their Pokémon TCG Cards (EX Sets)

[@somestranger4287]

17:52 correction: at the time, there was also a double battle format for the TCG, so this move is referring to any pokemon on the opponents side, altaria would stay awake

[@GaybrohamStinkton]

You should do the rematch teams honestly, its relatively pointless to compare a late game team of 5 to an giy with a pidgey and pidgeottto

[@SlvrStryker]

I'm glad you made mention of the different 8th leader in it, but you should do this video again, using the Pokemon Emerald teams for the Leaders/E4. That might actually change some rankings, considering the leaders have different/additional Pokemon...and it would be fun to compare how each leader may have been buffed or nerfed between versions.

[@TopTierGamingxiuh]

Idk how I found this but this content Is literally what I need right now to get through a tough time, thank you

[@Nick_Slavik]

Sorry you're going through it, friend 😟 There is a solid variety of content here snd his TCG challenge vids are pretty awesome too! Hang in there! You got this! 🙂🤙

[@cba_2442]

Great video! Looking forward to more of the reviewing all cards from the older sets videos.

[@arliss35]

The artwork on the voltorb and electrode are absolutely amazing.

[@sarahquinn6849]

Enjoying this series, could be fun to do the remake gyms too, like seeing what the Kanto leaders would have in gen 3 cards given firered & leafgreen are gen 3 games too

[@muramasas1simp623]

just curious will you do the same for diamond/pearl?

[@galvanizedgnome]

Good content my dude

[@djkates1916]

I was in college at the beginning of when the Gen 3 cards were being released, and I still played the Pokémon TCG at the time. I remember really liking the original Slaking card, and around the time the Sandstorm set came out (which gave us Rare Candy -- basically Pokémon Breeder on steroids), I bought the cards to build a deck around that Slaking and the Blaziken with Firestarter (also from the Ruby and Sapphire set). The basic idea was that I could keep using Switch and the like to cycle between two Slakings (bypassing one of the drawbacks of Critical Move), while using the Firestarter Blaziken both to get Slaking ready to go more quickly and to offset the Energy discard for Critical Move. Much like in the previous generations, there weren't that many Pokémon that wouldn't be OHKO'd by Critical Move. In retrospect, it wasn't a particularly *good* deck for its time, but it was *good enough* to be fun at least.

[@shadex08]

Gen 3 cards were after I stopped playing as well, this was a very cool video to learn so many new cards. Your rankings seemed pretty good, also wow that Cacturne is really a beast. High praise for it to get elevated ahead of those Dusclops.

[@Nick_Slavik]

"Weak to colourless? What!?" I like that you caught onto the reason why it was weak to colourless, since it was before Dragon and Fairy became a type in the tcg. Dragons were later weak to dragon or fairy types 🙂👍

[@nightspawnson-of-luna4936]

And then they decided that Fairy types weren't allowed to exist anymore

[@Nick_Slavik]

@@nightspawnson-of-luna4936 I know 😔 They've lumped them into Psychic now 🙄😑

[@Cheerybelle]

I didn't know-- or didn't remember --that the TCG added Dragon. (It was apparently midway through Gen 5.) ...nor did I know that the type went on -hiatus- lockdown for a couple years.

[@trentwolfgram9571]

Shout out to the Pittsburgh guy that made a poor Ohioan give patreon perks to a guy named Steelers lol I'll never stop finding petty Midwest rivalry hilarious

[@tlb31m]

What a great concept

[@GreenSamaArts]

The word "Each" on Altaria's attack reffers to the situation when your opponent has 2 active pokemon (2 on 2 battles were a thing on gen 3, even on TCG) effectively putting both of them to sleep. The card should say "Both" instead of "Each" if the attack referred to Altaria and the opponent's single active pokemon, but that's not the case.

[@nightspawnson-of-luna4936]

Yeah... That was a weird format...

[@leomeror]

Great video :)

[@mattpederson267]

Please rank the Champions against one another at the end of this series. I love your videos!❤

[@zalkarkazakbaev6691]

Will you do video about their rematch teams from emerald? Champion Wallis or Steven?

[@joefarrow1599]

Hello Paraspectre, I saw an Independent article titled 'Mushroom learns to crawl after being given robot body', and I felt that you should be made aware of it

[@nightspawnson-of-luna4936]

17:41 I think what's more interesting to me is that it has two resistances...

[@TheMono313]

Babe wake up a new Paraspectre video dropped

[@ZackeroniAndCheese]

20:12 how does Fast Stream work? I do not understand

[@djkates1916]

When the Gen 3 cards released, the game incorporated an option for an alternate rule set that emulated the Double Battles introduced in the Gen 3 mainline games; instead of just one Active Pokémon per player, each player would have two Active Pokémon (unless they only currently had one Pokémon in play), and the Bench was limited to 4 Pokémon per player instead of 5. Other than that, the game would still play the same as in the standard 1-on-1 format. (Even in 2-on-2 format, you could only use one attack per turn.) The 2-on-2 format mostly didn't take off, and tournaments were generally played using the 1-on-1 rules. Fast Stream's effect can only be used in a 2-on-2 game. Assuming your opponent has Pokémon in both Active slots, Fast Stream lets you move an Energy from one of them to the other. If you're playing 1-on-1, or if you're playing 2-on-2 but your opponent only has one Pokémon, Fast Stream will just do the 30 damage, and its effect will do nothing.

[@darkninjafirefox]

I had a bunch of these cards growing up, but lost most of them one way or another. This era of pokemon was kind of strange, as the first wave of pokemania was dying down and retailers stocked a lot less merchandise

[@Space-F91]

TBH i'd be a bit more interested in seeing the gym leaders ranked based off what evolution lines they had access to and decks built around them. Of course the early gym leaders are going to suffer when they're limited to only using basic commons so it doesn't really feel fair to compare them outside the odd situation with tate & liza, which itself is awkward as they're meant to be a double battle

[@Crisoki]

I don't know if you already said something about this, but what about the champions? are you plannig a video for the champions only?

[@Paraspectre]

I feel like that would be good for the very end

[@TobeyFairre7861]

I love trumpets and gen 3 has water and trumpets. All it needed was a shrimp playing a trumpet Lunatine and Solrock had a deck that was based around them during gen 3, iirc. I know it was featured as a championship deck when those first started being released.

[@Joker22593]

Lunatone and solrock are run as a one-each as one of the standard tech packages in the format. I think it turns off Pigeot's search ability.

[@nicocchi]

Wait did Burn mechanics change at some point in the TCG history or did you simply mis-explain them? Supposedly, you take 20 damage regardless in between each turn (so 40 by the time it's your turn again) but the coin flip is to heal the burn and remove the status condition. Damage happens before the coin flip afaik. Nitpicks aside, I have a lot of nostalgia for ex Ruby & Sapphire as those weren't just my first Pokémon games, but also some of my first Pokémon cards Edit: Ok, another nitpick as I'm watching along, Altaria's effects are a bit different than what you read. The thing is that TPC thought that Doubles was going to be the next big thing for the TCG, so they experimented with a format where you have two actives and four benched, not unlike Doubles in mainline games. So Dragon Song would make both opponents (i.e Defending Pokémon) Asleep, rather than make the opponent and Altaria itself go take a nap. The same goes for Dragon Dance, it'd buff Altaria and their partner, but I think as many other effects in the TCG, it'd cancel out if you bring a new active Pokémon in (not sure). Overall though, just because of Dragon Song, it's probably even better than you thought because it'd put the opponent in coin flip hell. I don't think TCG Doubles lasted past Gen 3, it was a weird, experimental time after Wizards of the Coast wasn't printing Pokémon cards anymore.

[@hailsaturn]

The burn rules changed with the release of sun and moon. The version in the video is how it worked before then.

[@SheepOfTheLord1]

Wonderful

[@ben_sisko2149]

36:37 on the attacking pokémon. If it were on the defending pokémon it would be a pretty terrible card XD

[@logansmith2703]

For the Elite 4 and Champion you could've just used Power Keepers since it is themed off them. That set has every pokemon from their teams and they each have a trainer card. Although Claydol, Metagross, Skarmory, Flygon, Salamence, Walrein, Absol, and Shiftry would only be Exs. (Sucks for Phoebe) You'd have to go earlier to give non ex pokemon. For Ex cards Dusclops and Banette would have to go back to Ex Emerald and Ex Legend Maker respectively. Also to be clear Power Keepers while the last RSE set is based off RS elite 4 not E.

[@Zersetzor]

Spoony? Man, that brings up memories. Poor sod.

[@kvltgaming4122]

Dope vid. Could we get this for gen 4 HGSS?

[@thekakeking9400]

What about their emerald teams?

[@rickysummers9371]

Amazing

[@jaynajuly2140]

Seaking is good enough for a future champion, so it's good enough for me!

[@lucasdeandres1566]

Why not a leaf green and fire red Kanto gym leaders by their Pokemon TCG Cards? (before sinnoh) Kind of like the first video, but with Gen 3 updated cards, since from now on, moving forward, we’ll be getting entire sets dedicated to the remakes.

[@joefarrow1599]

Watson also has manectric?

[@Paraspectre]

Only in Emerald

[@joefarrow1599]

@@Paraspectre Really 😳 GameFreak what were you _thinking_

[@Paraspectre]

@@joefarrow1599 it’s a pretty lame team that they gave him for Ruby/Sapphire for sure

[@tefnutofhoney2832]

Sidney has one problem; you can only have four dark energy im a deck durinf gen 3

[@nicholastricarico2957]

17:32 Yeahhhhhh....power creep is going to hit you hard, buddy. It's somewhat evident in the ex era, but D&P on....woof. You're in for a shock.

[@pesilaratnayake162]

Is there a reason not to show the champion's Pokémon cards? Also, I like that they made Darkness weak to Fighting. In the Gen 2 cards, many darkness cards have no weakness. Doesn't really make sense, but neither does Sableye having a weakness to fighting. It should be resistant to it. I love Drake's team, but it would be hard to assemble it. The Emerald gym leaders teams are much cooler than Ruby/Sapphire though: Brawley has Meditite; Wattson has Electrike and Manectric; Flannery has Numel and Camerupt; Norman has Spinda and Linoone; Winona has Tropius; Tate & Liza have Claydol and Zatu; and Juan has Crawdaunt and Kingdra. I think some of the Elite Four is different, but the Champion is very different. I prefer Steven's team to Wallace's as champion, though.

[@nightspawnson-of-luna4936]

So when you get to Gen 4, instead of just using the pokemon from the earliest set, I'd recomend using a pokemon SP if you can... (At least for the ones which are pokemon they actually had...though Granted I don't think you did that for the Gym Heroes sets either, so it's up to you...)

[@TJF588]

The Seal(e) is weak to _metal?!_ Oh...oh no...

[@GeoGeoCatfish]

GYM LEADER CAAAAARDS

[@DracoX-hz3tu]

I would rank tate and liza above Flannery, imo 4 types of coverage and a decent card draw engine is far more useful than spreading probably the worst status in the tcg

[@nodsoldier5802]

shroom boys

[@spittertron4920]

But Broly's power is supposed to be maximum! :(

[@Itsjumbomuffin]

AYOOO fellow shroomy boi - first!

[@mude_13]

Hoen sucks cause no grass gym

[@EWOODJ]

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