Ranking the Hoenn Gym Leaders Weakest to Strongest

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So a few times now I’ve gone and ranked all of the Gym Leaders from certain games like Red and Blue and the Johto series, so I figured I would revisit the concept once more today and tackle the gym leaders from Hoenn in Ruby and Sapphire. Usually with gym leaders there is this idea that they get progressively more difficult as you move through your gym challenge, but that really is not always the case. I’m taking a few things into consideration when I rank these leaders such as the Pokemon you’ll be up against vs the selection of Pokemon you have available to you at that point in the game, as well as the moves available to you vs the moves on their Pokemon. Even if a gym leader has Pokemon over level 40, that doesn’t exactly mean they’re harder to beat than an early game gym leader with a level 14 that might just be pretty tough for that part of the game. Let’s get right into things and see just what kind of challenge Hoenn has for us.
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@Zerohi123
@Zerohi123 4 жыл бұрын
Quick disclaimer: this doesn't apply to emerald
@user-ki7ux9mz6l
@user-ki7ux9mz6l 4 жыл бұрын
tate & liza are so hard in emerald for some reason. The claydol earthquaking everything, xatu just not dying, lunatone setting up screens, christ
@edmg7
@edmg7 4 жыл бұрын
@@user-ki7ux9mz6l why not just spam Surf?
@franciscocostaealmeida9906
@franciscocostaealmeida9906 4 жыл бұрын
@@edmg7 xatu always sets a couple of calm minds, claydol is really bulky, lunatone screens cut by half the damage and solrock can use sunny day. So, spamming surf might not be the best option to deal with Tate and Liza
@cakeyonalt
@cakeyonalt 4 жыл бұрын
edmg7 He literally just mentioned that Lunatone keeps putting up Light Screens, which, despite the advantage, makes your special moves like Surf do fuck-all regardless. It doesn’t help that Claydol destroys your Rock/Electric type that’s supposed to deal with Xatu with Earthquake + is inherently bulky, Xatu may as well be in the competitive side of things with it spamming Calm Mind, Lunatone setting up screens making special attacks hit as hard as a Pidgey to a Rock-type, and Solrock sets up Sunny Day, weakening your Water-type attacks and allowing it to destroy your Water-types with Solar Beam.
@user-ki7ux9mz6l
@user-ki7ux9mz6l 4 жыл бұрын
@@edmg7 because you'll hit your partner pokemon too. Which is really not what you want to do against tate & liza because before you know it they've boosted their defenses to ungodly amounts and they'll sweep whatever is left of you team. idk what it is about double battles in pokemon, they always trip me up. the ace trainers before veilstone in diamond/pearl, the ones with the gyarados.... unbeatable. and raihan in swsh was pretty difficult too, especially considering the rest of the game was easy as piss
@jude166
@jude166 4 жыл бұрын
fun fact - you would actually need brawly's badge to take on norman , as stated when you first meet him. however, he'd still be easy if you fight him after flannery
@frelted6744
@frelted6744 4 жыл бұрын
do you actually or is that just a piece of dialogue? i think the norman gym is unlocked after the fourth gym, not getting 4 gym badges
@kamishin7135
@kamishin7135 4 жыл бұрын
"Use Shedinja to defeat Wattson" this reminds me of something, oh yeah, Wattson was nearly killed by a Shedinja in the manga.
@mariuslovesbacon
@mariuslovesbacon 4 жыл бұрын
kami shin when?
@kamishin7135
@kamishin7135 4 жыл бұрын
@@mariuslovesbacon in the pokemon adventures ruby and saphire manga. The gym leaders fought against the members of team magma and aqua in an all out war.
@alpha-sama
@alpha-sama 4 жыл бұрын
@@kamishin7135 Wow that sounds badass! The Pokemon manga really is something else.
@kamishin7135
@kamishin7135 4 жыл бұрын
@@alpha-sama yes, yes it is
@oresti9271
@oresti9271 4 жыл бұрын
I actually didn't remember that lol
@domenicavallone28
@domenicavallone28 4 жыл бұрын
I never understood why Wattson had three non hoenn pokemon. He literally could have had a plusle, minun and manectric it would have made more sense
@tylerd1297
@tylerd1297 4 жыл бұрын
Johto has the same problem. They hardly use any of the new Pokemon for some reason.
@domenicavallone28
@domenicavallone28 4 жыл бұрын
Tyler D I know! The male gym leaders from Johto especially fell into that category as they all had a full team of kanto pokemon (except Pryce who had one johto pokemon) The teams should have been Falkner - Hoothoot & Pidgey Bugsy - Ledyba, Spinarak, Yanma Whitney - Clefairy, Jigglypuff, Miltank Morty - Misdreavus, Haunter, Gengar Chuck - Hitmontop, Machoke, Poliwrath Jasmine - Magneton, Skarmory, Steelix Pryce - Piloswine, Sneasel, Lapras Delibird Clair - Dragonair, Arodactyl, Gyrados, Kingdra
@WaterKirby1994
@WaterKirby1994 4 жыл бұрын
Morty suffers from the fact that there was only Misdreavus & Gastly Family back in the days of Gen 2 for Ghost Types so he shouldn't count. Half of Wattson's Team in Emerald is native to Hoenn as he uses Electrike & his ace is Manectric. As for Fawkner, I guess they thought the familiarity of Pidgey & Pidgeotto would be good for players just starting out. Still they could have had him start with Natu then use that level 15 Pidgeotto. As for Bugsy it was probably considered too soon in the game to have the player encounter Scizor, although it would have been interesting if his team was Spinarak, Beedrill, & Ledian instead. Chuck had no excuse not to use either Hitmontop or Heracross on his team.
@justinyang2516
@justinyang2516 3 жыл бұрын
@@domenicavallone28 Rip Clair, still just 1 dragon
@bluberrydee6205
@bluberrydee6205 3 жыл бұрын
@@domenicavallone28 might as well make that pidgey a noctowl since the pidgeotto is hacked anyway
@eveegirl2878
@eveegirl2878 4 жыл бұрын
Norman on the thumbnail, you'll know hes the strongest.
@Guah00
@Guah00 4 жыл бұрын
Just cheese him with Pelipper using Protect lol
@tastygiggidy633
@tastygiggidy633 4 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ, Tate and Lisa in emerald is the hardest gym leader I've ever gone up against with a full team of 6 at level 36 ish
@shellshockedbros4458
@shellshockedbros4458 4 жыл бұрын
@@tastygiggidy633 thats because you had a full team of 6 lmao
@letsgetfluffy3138
@letsgetfluffy3138 4 жыл бұрын
Abusing truant makes the battle much easier.
@jamiecasimir5040
@jamiecasimir5040 4 жыл бұрын
Y e s
@alexgeeves4817
@alexgeeves4817 4 жыл бұрын
I would love to see an emerald version of this list because from personal experiences those twins have been an absolute nightmare for me every time i vs them
@Pvaultingfenderbass
@Pvaultingfenderbass 4 жыл бұрын
What about Juan and his GODDAMN Kingdra??? Only weak to flygon’s dragon breath at that point in the game so that’s out, paralyses you with its own dragon breath, then spams double team. It’s like reliving the nightmare of Agatha’s Gengars in Firered
@Johanoist
@Johanoist 4 жыл бұрын
Sameeee even with Swampert on my team
@Shastasnow
@Shastasnow 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, mainly because I gambled a bit on their power. I did not look them up before fighting them. I just went in with my Swampert and Swellow.
@deagek7638
@deagek7638 3 жыл бұрын
THAT FUCKING CLAYDOL
@zjean3417
@zjean3417 3 жыл бұрын
Norman is just as hard If not harder in emerald
@easybuizy2894
@easybuizy2894 4 жыл бұрын
Tate and Liza strength raked R/S:not too hard Oras: too easy Emerald: "Why are we here *sniffle* just to suffer".
@trent800
@trent800 4 жыл бұрын
I found a good strategy for it use a Gardevoir with skil swap after you kill the Xatu skill swap the solrock and Claydol with earthquake you are immune to it and Solrock is weak to it
@carlitojaunito2269
@carlitojaunito2269 4 жыл бұрын
Trent I just spammed calm mind with gardevoir
@carlitojaunito2269
@carlitojaunito2269 4 жыл бұрын
Trent and gave manectric thunder with a few rare candies to win
@extremistikovoutiro2877
@extremistikovoutiro2877 3 жыл бұрын
Literally this gym was designed by Satan himself
@MadnessOpus
@MadnessOpus 3 жыл бұрын
Just Surf the hell out of these dumb rocks.
@genesissupernova7114
@genesissupernova7114 3 жыл бұрын
"Overheat could one hit a pokemon whether its resisted or not". Michael's Castform in ORAS :"hold my beer"
@susheelg
@susheelg 4 жыл бұрын
Mystic: Norman is very hard Me with my level 29 marshtomp that knows protect: Hold my beer
@cultleaderofmonke4758
@cultleaderofmonke4758 4 жыл бұрын
*Me who over leveled my blaziken*
@PokeBlox21
@PokeBlox21 4 жыл бұрын
when u spam dig as Linoone
@imperialwyvern
@imperialwyvern 4 жыл бұрын
Me with a Hariyama with Fake Out and Vital throw. I don't think so bro.
@oresti9271
@oresti9271 4 жыл бұрын
Try fighting him without the mudkip line (seriously if you use the mudkip line the hoenn games aren't challenging swampert can defeat almost everything)
@jandanielbondad5176
@jandanielbondad5176 4 жыл бұрын
Machoke with Revenge move: Hold my beer
@VulturePilot
@VulturePilot 4 жыл бұрын
Norman’s Slacking was definitely a difficulty spike on my first Sapphire playthrough in 2003
@gh0rochi363
@gh0rochi363 2 жыл бұрын
Thank god you used a fighting type move to sweep his team on your second try right?
@gus7807
@gus7807 2 жыл бұрын
@@gh0rochi363 i set up bulk up with blaziken and double kick everything
@sethhowell3067
@sethhowell3067 4 жыл бұрын
“Slacking is a monster” Protect: I’m about to end this whole man’s career
@julianaalika9790
@julianaalika9790 4 жыл бұрын
I've always wiped the floor out of Flannery...to me the flying gym was harder than the fire gym, that damn altaria with the dragon dance was tough
@tylerd1297
@tylerd1297 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah Flannery leads with a Slugma which is ridiculously easy to set up x attacks/boosting moves with to sweep through. I usually use Mudkip so its kind of a joke. Wynette is much harder unless especially cuz of Altaria being neutral to electric and packing dragon dance
@trent800
@trent800 4 жыл бұрын
@@tylerd1297 same with the flying gym seriously Swablu and same with water gym Luvdisk alot of the leaders lead with terrible pokemon that you can easily sweep
@extremistikovoutiro2877
@extremistikovoutiro2877 3 жыл бұрын
I literally beat her with an azumaril first try idk
@AdamDawson3
@AdamDawson3 Жыл бұрын
@@tylerd1297 Say hello to Linoone with Ice Beam
@genesissupernova7114
@genesissupernova7114 3 жыл бұрын
"You need a full team of 6 to Defeat Norman" Me: *haha Machoke's low kick go brrr*
@mckenzie-grayeevans5876
@mckenzie-grayeevans5876 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for getting round to doing this, vastly appreciated.I’m a massive nerd and your channel is so informative and fun to watch, stay well mate.Best wishes from UK.
@aidbotwoody939
@aidbotwoody939 4 жыл бұрын
It's really crazy just how much they amped up the gyms for Emerald and honestly I think it improves the experience because you have to be legitimately prepared for every single gym and it clears up some of the glaring weaknesses that some of the leaders had before
@iloveyourmomalot1one
@iloveyourmomalot1one 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly Emerald is my favourite 3rd game. Don't like Crystal cuz you can't get Ampharos. I don't like Platinum because you can't get Murkrow until late game. And yellow is a close second.
@edmg7
@edmg7 4 жыл бұрын
Can't say I agree with most of these choices for three reasons. 1. Simply having a balanced team (not even an intrinsically researched one, just a good variety) gives you coverage against most of the powerful moves and annoying stats. 2. If you have tanky Pokémon on your team that really changes how you battle against some of these leaders. Most of what you said only applies if you have a team of sweepers. 3. If you take the AI into account, some of the leaders with impressive moves become a lot more tame.
@avery3063
@avery3063 4 жыл бұрын
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@vi0letlis
@vi0letlis 4 жыл бұрын
May?!?!!?!?
@SourceOfBeing
@SourceOfBeing 4 жыл бұрын
1:15 - You're completely wrong in saying you can get every other badge before you fight Brawly. You can initially skip Brawly and fight Watson and Flannery first, but you have to fight him before you can fight Norman. Norman will only let you challenge his gym when you've got 4 badges, i.e. when you've beaten Roxanne, Brawly, Wattson and Flannery. You can't bypass Norman because you need the Balance Badge to be allowed to use Surf outside of battle, and you need to Surf to cross Route 118 so you can actually get to Fortree City and fight Winona.
@lpenrike
@lpenrike 4 жыл бұрын
*ruby/sapphire gym leaders* emerald is laughing at you, m8
@shubhamagrawal1802
@shubhamagrawal1802 4 жыл бұрын
In Omega Ruby, best way to defeat Wallace - Catch that Groudon with primal reversion( But that will kill the fun of defeating final gym leader as well)
@cutebng
@cutebng 4 жыл бұрын
Breloom seed bomb We done here.
@Deaderthanadoorknob2
@Deaderthanadoorknob2 4 жыл бұрын
Its a free gym with primal groudon
@AdamDawson3
@AdamDawson3 Жыл бұрын
Tropius owns this damn gym
@honungsbilol9050
@honungsbilol9050 4 жыл бұрын
Great Video, Mystic!
@snapclub8751
@snapclub8751 4 жыл бұрын
8:10 That’s actually what I planned on using against Whitney in the Gen 2 games, but the Machop I received from the NPC did most of the work before it could even do anything. Also my Graveler was a Geodude before it defeated her.
@xaviersilva2675
@xaviersilva2675 4 жыл бұрын
I think Tate and Liza are so hard in Pokémon emerald
@cultleaderofmonke4758
@cultleaderofmonke4758 4 жыл бұрын
I knew that Wallace would be the strongest. Because he spams full restores
@omaravalos1234
@omaravalos1234 4 жыл бұрын
i actually thought norman was harder than wallce (juan in emerald), since i just used sceptile with leafblade for wishcash and manetric with thunder(bolt) for everyone else except then i used manetric til it fainted leaving milotic with about half health the leafblade would finish milotic off
@cultleaderofmonke4758
@cultleaderofmonke4758 4 жыл бұрын
@@omaravalos1234 well Juan and Wallace were hard for me cause I had a blaziken on my team and I had no electric or grass pokemon. My only best bet was my salamanance and sharpedo. Norman was easy for me because I had blaziken and crobat.
@Pvaultingfenderbass
@Pvaultingfenderbass 4 жыл бұрын
Pen Are we not gonna talk about Juan’s goddamn KINGDRA 😤 No weaknesses so you can’t one shot + double team + dragon breath paralysis
@fauzanree1983
@fauzanree1983 4 жыл бұрын
@@Pvaultingfenderbass I beat him with my hariyama with brick break in the end. That goddamn thing used rest 4 times and used double team two times. So, it was a pain. But in the end my hariyama finished that kingdra off.
@Pvaultingfenderbass
@Pvaultingfenderbass 4 жыл бұрын
Fauzan Mohammad Omg I forgot about rest. You’re right it takes a few tries. And interesting because I’ve played through emerald 15 times and never used Hariyama 🤔 I always ended up eventually winning with whatever hard-hitter I had
@RedDragonForce2
@RedDragonForce2 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I remember the difficulty spike I'm some of my early casual playthroughs. Thanks to multiple copies of RSEORAS games, I was able to build a better team with Pokemon I don't use as often but still to greater effect and it wasn't AS bad, given the boosted EXP the Traded Pokemon get. Thanks for such an excellent video!!
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@LiskHelio 4 жыл бұрын
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@BoostGlitch357 4 жыл бұрын
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@1sa45 4 жыл бұрын
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@skirtch9298 4 жыл бұрын
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@LiskHelio 4 жыл бұрын
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@charlock593 4 жыл бұрын
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@lpg5355
@lpg5355 4 жыл бұрын
i like how flanney is considered hard but i accidentally overlevelled and had a sceptile sweep on her
@trent800
@trent800 4 жыл бұрын
you had a starter that would be at the level it should be for winonas gym of course it would be easy
@blackwolfdragon1705
@blackwolfdragon1705 Жыл бұрын
I had a Swampert that sweeped her whole team before her Torkoal could use attract
@ender1995
@ender1995 4 жыл бұрын
I started with torchic in emarald, so this whole list was backwards
@buffcanuck83
@buffcanuck83 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video 👍.
@th6410
@th6410 4 жыл бұрын
Winona was the one giving me and my brother the most challenge. We lost to her so many times and was so shocked to find a Manectric in route 118.
@sixtales7681
@sixtales7681 4 жыл бұрын
Sadly, I had played Emerald, which means they actually had more pokemon. Tbh, fighting Manectric was somewhat hell. Not to mention, Tate and Liza was given Claydol and Xatu, which somewhat makes it more difficult. Luckily, I did have a Manectric on my own, two water types, as well as a Mightyena to counter their Psychic type. And norman is given a Spinda with Teeter Dance, which was darn annoying.
@thunderstormgaming285
@thunderstormgaming285 4 жыл бұрын
Slaking has an ability which stops it from using 2 turn moves But Normans slaking knows focus punch 😅😅 Even though he's a gym leader
@WaterKirby1994
@WaterKirby1994 4 жыл бұрын
Focus Punch is an awful move for ingame trainer battles usually as they unless programmed otherwise will usually just attack. While if you encounter an opponent who uses a Pokemon that uses it you can just attack them to prevent them from using it. Just imagine how scary Slaking would be in Double Battles if Skill Swap was used to give it Huge Power.
@iloveyourmomalot1one
@iloveyourmomalot1one 3 жыл бұрын
He can be taken out without even using super effective moves on his Slakings. They focus, quick Attack. Oops they can't attack.
@whatishappi
@whatishappi 4 жыл бұрын
Hey mystic quick question. Seeing how the improvements between games can help can you do ranking gym leaders for the all of the games sequels?
@Idonthaveanameanymore
@Idonthaveanameanymore 4 жыл бұрын
"Flannery is hard because of her torkoal" My barely higher leveled ninjask:hold my shedinja.
@literallygrass1328
@literallygrass1328 4 жыл бұрын
How? She has overheat, and will use it.
@melissaardon2294
@melissaardon2294 4 жыл бұрын
My entire team destroyed Flannery
@bluberrydee6205
@bluberrydee6205 3 жыл бұрын
@@literallygrass1328 shadow clone jutsu pretty sure ninjask is only remembered for its notorious double team
@stijnburgers719
@stijnburgers719 4 жыл бұрын
This is a great series
@triggermoon2155
@triggermoon2155 4 жыл бұрын
What I remember most playing omega ruby is my Torkoal of all Pokémon swept Stevens team and Steven is suppose to be one of the hardest champions. You might think my torkoal was over leveled, nope she (I had a female torkoal) was level 51 and Stevens pokemon was level 53 I think. My torkoal tanked through Stevens Mega Metagross’s giga impact and two shotted it. I will never forget my beloved Torkoal
@shubhamagrawal1802
@shubhamagrawal1802 4 жыл бұрын
Steven's Metagross was probably at level 59, Are you sure your torkoal was at level 51only and she withstand a 'Giga Impact' from mega Metagross.................. (Was she holding focus sash?)
@shellshockedbros4458
@shellshockedbros4458 4 жыл бұрын
@@shubhamagrawal1802 If I knew that torkoals stats then I could figure that out.
@triggermoon2155
@triggermoon2155 4 жыл бұрын
Shubham Agrawal I honestly don’t know how my torkoal pulled this off 😂. If I remember I started off against Steven with my Torkoal being level 51 and it grew to level 53 or 54 can’t remember. I also used some withdrawal and I pulled this off because I knew Steven was going to start off with Skarmory and use spikes so it was a free withdrawal
@shubhamagrawal1802
@shubhamagrawal1802 4 жыл бұрын
@@triggermoon2155 Wow, Torkoal earned my respect😁🙏
@AdamDawson3
@AdamDawson3 Жыл бұрын
I used a Male Torkoal on my original Emerald playthrough back in 2005 and it was sensational absolutely destroyed Glacia with it in the Elite Four and it helped me defeated Tate & Liza.
@k2basior
@k2basior 4 жыл бұрын
Besides going with other Gens are you planning to do a similar list on Elite Fours? Or maybe all champions or all rivals from weakest to strongest? :-)
@typhlosion7872
@typhlosion7872 4 жыл бұрын
The most simple option for Brawly is actually either a Dustox or a Beautifly because they both 4x resist fighting
@TheEmilyFravel
@TheEmilyFravel 4 жыл бұрын
*"we got shirts on sale"*
@yelsamarani
@yelsamarani 4 жыл бұрын
slight nitpick - you have to defeat Brawly before you can challenge Norman.
@Mark-br7in
@Mark-br7in 4 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this🤣
@IM_7031
@IM_7031 3 жыл бұрын
Tate & Liza in Ruby/Sapphire: We get one shot by Surf Tate & Liza in Emerald: We will use Light Screen, then Confuse Ray, then Earthquake, THEN SOLARBEAM
@darknessrising2453
@darknessrising2453 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, have you considered making a list for the villainous teams? Or maybe the villains from the Coliseum?
@quadrewplex6782
@quadrewplex6782 4 жыл бұрын
About Norman, you can get any pokemon with Protect/Detect to cheese out the Slakings. PP is an issue that comes to mind, but if your pokemon hits decently hard, you won't have to worry about it (at least for Protect).
@Fred_Die
@Fred_Die 4 жыл бұрын
Norman WAS hard when I first played him. Then you realize all you need is to protect every other move and he turns into one of the easiest gym leaders
@tsmo2235
@tsmo2235 4 жыл бұрын
wattson in oras was the most intense gym battle ive ever had that volt switch spam was insane
@sam3oq980
@sam3oq980 4 жыл бұрын
A pokemon you missed Mystic is Zangoose (if you have pokemon Ruby). It learns Swords Dance and Slash by level up, which makes for a terrifying combo in a play through. It's also decently fast and can take enough hits to get a boost or two. Later on you can also give it a combination of Aerial Ace, Shadow Ball and Brick Break to make it even more devastating (recommend the last two tbh). It does really well against basically all Gym leaders. With a double Swords Dance boost I've found that you can even power through Winona's Skarmory. With Shadow Ball you annihilate Tate and Liza and Swords Dance + Return or Slash devastates Wallace as well. Only thing you've really gotta watch out for are faster pokemon who can kill it before it sets up or prey on less-than-high health.
@AdamDawson3
@AdamDawson3 Жыл бұрын
I am going to try this on my next playthrough of Ruby
@drewholzmark466
@drewholzmark466 4 жыл бұрын
Sableye makes Brawly so easy I’m actually surprised it wasn’t brought up in this video
@jesuscarlomabutas4172
@jesuscarlomabutas4172 2 жыл бұрын
My trick in fighting Winona in the past is that before i challenge her, i will go straight to the abandoned ship and get myself TM 13 which is Ice Beam and use it on Swampert. With that, i'd have an easier time defeating her Altaria since it's 4x effective against it.
@stijnburgers719
@stijnburgers719 4 жыл бұрын
Will you also do Emerald?
@dabuff1319
@dabuff1319 4 жыл бұрын
Don't forget about EMERALD NORMAN.
@Lunar254_
@Lunar254_ 4 жыл бұрын
What about grabbing a Geodude before Wattson? Isn’t it available in Dewford Cave?
@mrgonzalez8838
@mrgonzalez8838 4 жыл бұрын
On my first play through oh so long ago, Norman and his Slacking wrecked me and I had to try several times
@stevenbland4035
@stevenbland4035 4 жыл бұрын
I'll always have bad memories of Norm after the time he left me with nothing but a Torkoal during an Emerald nuzlock.
@hail1819
@hail1819 4 жыл бұрын
When you're up against slzking , you can use dig on the turn it attacts and avoid everything
@p.slgeswari4972
@p.slgeswari4972 4 жыл бұрын
Mystic what do u use to edit
@shironeko1843
@shironeko1843 4 жыл бұрын
1:51 Heck no! Machop tanked Wing Attack, used Bulk Up, survived the second Wing Attack, and with Karate Chop critted through my entire team. I had to level my Tailow like an idiot in order to win, and it was at level 15
@shellshockedbros4458
@shellshockedbros4458 4 жыл бұрын
You probably had a bad nature. I had one that lowered Special defense and raised attack. My level 14 tailow 1 shot his whole team.
@trent800
@trent800 4 жыл бұрын
@@shellshockedbros4458 how I have a normal nature and I two shot with a level 15
@shellshockedbros4458
@shellshockedbros4458 4 жыл бұрын
@@trent800 Not sure? I think I trained on zigzagoons which raise attack evs too?
@trent800
@trent800 4 жыл бұрын
@@shellshockedbros4458 I trained on Makuhitas which also give attack I probably got low rolls and had zero IVs
@jonahdengler3858
@jonahdengler3858 3 жыл бұрын
You know, adding Emerald and Sootopolis City’s Emerald-exclusive Gym Leader Juan would be great, too.
@JTLDrago94
@JTLDrago94 4 жыл бұрын
This is another way to beat Winona's Altaria is get a Trapinch & evolve it to Vibrava with the move DragonBreath for Altaria
@AdamDawson3
@AdamDawson3 Жыл бұрын
That is what I did on Emerald
@melhoneybee6171
@melhoneybee6171 4 жыл бұрын
In my playthrough, I actually found Wallace to be a really easy battle, thought I did have a Breloom, and a Raichu with Brick Break.
@AdamDawson3
@AdamDawson3 Жыл бұрын
I soloed him on Ruby with Skarmory
@LunarSage69
@LunarSage69 4 жыл бұрын
You should totally do this for emerald just because ruby and sapphire are somewhat incomplete games
@MDNphil
@MDNphil 4 жыл бұрын
I never did any of the tips that he gave in this vid. I guess 7 year old me was just good at level grinding. My team was crobat, linoone, manectric, blaziken, walrein and a fill slot.
@tapuchris3329
@tapuchris3329 4 жыл бұрын
Flannery is my favorite gym leader in the Hoenn region!
@brahimhayouni2023
@brahimhayouni2023 4 жыл бұрын
me too
@Jakewebmaster8
@Jakewebmaster8 4 жыл бұрын
Why? She hot?
@tapuchris3329
@tapuchris3329 4 жыл бұрын
@@Jakewebmaster8 she's strong and beautiful
@WaterKirby1994
@WaterKirby1994 4 жыл бұрын
Roxanne's my Hoenn Gymleader Waifu, although Flannery was also really hot looking back in the days of Gen 3. Can we agree that Hoenn has the most attractive female gym leaders of any region we've gotten so far? Not only that there's also Emerald's Frontier Brain Girls Anabel, Greta, & Pike Queen Lucy. Also May's RS & Emerald appearances were attractive as well. I think my biggest regrets for ORAS are as follows 2)Battle Frontier was completely absent, 1)Giving May a childish looking redesign without any Trainer Customization options. Supposedly the reason Battle Frontier wasn't included was because it was believed not enough players would enjoy it because of it being too difficult. If that were the case they could have just made the challenges easier. At least Anabel appeared in an awesome new redesign for the Gen 7 games.
@caouillon370
@caouillon370 4 жыл бұрын
WaterKirby1994 bruh
@eveegirl2878
@eveegirl2878 4 жыл бұрын
Isnt Juan also a gym leader?
@JustCallMeMaxy
@JustCallMeMaxy 4 жыл бұрын
Only in Emerald, this list just applies to Ruby and Sapphire
@choccymilkking
@choccymilkking 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@choccymilkking
@choccymilkking 4 жыл бұрын
That’s why Wallace was mentioned
@oresti9271
@oresti9271 4 жыл бұрын
In Emerald yes not in Ruby and sapphire
@jedmojica861
@jedmojica861 4 жыл бұрын
I think he forgot that Emerald exists 😅
@notgonnasay09
@notgonnasay09 4 жыл бұрын
Um, for Watson, I think you have access to Geodude, which at Level 16 learns Magnitude, and is immune to his electric attacks. That's usually how I deal with him if I don't pick Mudkip as my starter.
@dom1941
@dom1941 4 жыл бұрын
Gen 3 Fanboy right here, and even though I've got a terrible track record, I'm gonna try and predict the order before we go in: (From weakest to strongest) Roxanne, Brawly, Wattson, Flannery, Wallace, Tate and Liza, Norman, Winona. Edit: I need to give up on these predictions. Big time. Only one right.
@edmg7
@edmg7 4 жыл бұрын
Eh, I feel like how difficult gym leaders are varies from person to person. My ranking is way different than Mystic's.
@trent800
@trent800 4 жыл бұрын
he used ruby and sapphire not emerald the list would be very different if he used their emerald movesets and pokemon
@sam3oq980
@sam3oq980 4 жыл бұрын
Tate and Liza would be my number 1 for Emerald, but for Ruby and Sapphire they're pretty easy.
@MGRRSenatorArmstrong
@MGRRSenatorArmstrong 4 жыл бұрын
Firestorm Soldier You shouldn’t be surprised because if you look at the title of the video, it clearly shows that this video is for the gen 3 fan base.
@dom1941
@dom1941 4 жыл бұрын
United States Of America Alright you two better not start another stupid argument on my comment
@relaxn3918
@relaxn3918 4 жыл бұрын
This is my opinion but based on Emerald, from easiest to hardest. Roxanne Ex: You can simply catch Shroomish, Lotad or have Treecko/Mudkip as your starter. You can aslo overlevel Torchic to evolve and use double kick Wattson Ex: Marshtomp destroys it with Mud Shot. Or have Geodude with Magnitude learned at level 17. Combusken has double kick, we mentioned Marhstomp, Grovyle does struggle though. But as I meantioned, you can also beat it with Geodude. Norman Ex: Now I know what you are thinking, how can he be easier than everybody else. Three words, Sableye and Poison/Burn/Leech Seed. You can use this statuses to chip him down and switch ro Sableye, the earliest ghost type to be dealt 0 damage and chip both down. Yes, one unit may die from facade, but when you switch out, you can revive them since you have passed by Flannery where you can buy revival herbs. Juan(The replacement of Wallace in Emerald): By now you should have a solid team and there are many counters: Manetirc being the best, Magneton, Ludicolo quad resisting water, and anybody like Crobat who has Giga Drain. But he has high levelex pokemon which is why I think he is harder than norman anyways. Also Norman gets countered by Protect in the first turn. Brawly Ex: Surpriing but while Tailow can be a counter, you can get surprised by the higher levels of his pokemon if you decide to fight him at the moment. I actuallyhad two pokemon die to him which says a lot for the point in time in the game. He even used a non very effective attack to kill my Ralts. Flannery: She actually has a Camerupt and Numel instead for having the extra slugma. Torkoal alone is a challenge due to how attract and a sunny day Overheat can easily kill. It's also very bulky so it can survive many hits and just restore the Hp easily. Also, you can compare it with Miltank except as the child of Miltank that Whitney has with attract. Winona Ex: The first time I whited out in The game. Once Altaria has set up plenty of Dragon Dances, she can sweep your team if you haven't teached anybody Ice beam but she is much higher leveled at the time. Also you can't just use double team or something since she has aerial ace. I barely beated her by chipping her down with toxic on Crobat and healing. But just like Mystic has said, unless you are ready, the fight is very hard. Tate and Liza Ex: If you have played Emrald you know you just can't spam surf on Swampert or something when they have a well set up team with sunny day and solarbeam, flamethrower and the bug type as we know sucks and is weak to rock at the times. Dark types have low speacial defense and unless you had an overlevel ed Bannete or Dusclops, the battle is very hard. Also, everybodyy is iimmune to Earthquake and they have four pokemon. This for anybody if tthey want to know about Emerald. Thank you for reading.
@dranchalkaushik6699
@dranchalkaushik6699 3 жыл бұрын
Do part 2 in which you are talking only about emerald, because Tate and Liza got a huge buff in emerald which where a Xatu and Claydol
@Coconut_Prrson
@Coconut_Prrson 3 жыл бұрын
A little recomendation for norman's battle. Pelipper learns protect at a very early level and it is probablly the best counter there is to his entire team if you don't have any fighting types
@alexandroaguiar4500
@alexandroaguiar4500 3 жыл бұрын
In Winona's Gym: you can use a Castform on level 30 with Weather Ball and Hail moves
@KnucklesxShadefan98
@KnucklesxShadefan98 3 жыл бұрын
My favourite region, Hoenn instantly took the top spot and has held onto it all these years! I prefer the storyline in which Wallace becomes Champion because Steven prepares to die in the final battle against Team Magma and Aqua. But I can easily see Mystic's point of view of Wallace being able to become Champion because of his awesome team
@johnrusselltuazon7514
@johnrusselltuazon7514 4 жыл бұрын
I used my starter only in Emerald so I overleveled my Sceptile relatively quickly and got through all the gyms with ease
@jordaninktv6538
@jordaninktv6538 4 жыл бұрын
You could also have a Geodude (which learns Magnitude at level 16 and could hold a Soft Sand, obtained on route 109's beach) by the time you face off against Wattson If I didn't have a Marshtomp, that was always a go-to for me
@xavi393
@xavi393 4 жыл бұрын
I always think he starts by saying ‘we got ships on sale ‘ 😅😅😂😂
@Garfewloid
@Garfewloid 4 жыл бұрын
Like the redesign bro
@mattattack21
@mattattack21 4 жыл бұрын
I just got Torchic, evolved to Combusken while keeping peck. Pretty much ran through the first 3 badges, had to use something else for Flannery but then Combusken or Blaziken wrecked Norman.
@hewyihherng
@hewyihherng 4 жыл бұрын
Gotta love that confident and authoritative tone of 'we've got shirts on sale'
@cringeytubers6673
@cringeytubers6673 4 жыл бұрын
I found the flying type leader very easy, but that was mainly due to incredible paralysis luck from my manetrics (spelling might be wrong) spark on the altaria. I also found the fire type leader easy because I had a gardevoir that was level 30 and the normal type was extremely easy because the last slaking kept using focus punch, nothing else and the fact my gardevoir was extremely strong. The hardest for me was easily The electric type because I was very underlevelled and didn’t want to grind
@thescarredraven2634
@thescarredraven2634 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I feel like game freak should put a dragon trainer for the first gym since it feels like a waste that the big dragon trainers are in the last few gyms or elite 4. The first gym is so easy since there is always a grass or water type to use or just a coverage Pokemon in general.
@ant5537
@ant5537 3 жыл бұрын
thats the point of an early game gym... to get you ready for the harder ones. since dragon is the best type it wouldn’t make sense for that to be the first
@Ruben_Kenny
@Ruben_Kenny 4 жыл бұрын
It took me an hour to beat Tate and Liza in Mossdeep gym (Emerald)
@ComeFurtherUp
@ComeFurtherUp 4 жыл бұрын
Someone might of said this already but you can't skip Brawly in ORAS.
@ninten1989
@ninten1989 4 жыл бұрын
My first playthrough on Ruby though, Brawly was some tough BS. I tried to have Ralts spam Confusion, but it wasn't enough! I had to find a Makuhita and hopefully beat him, because Arm Thrust was BS. To me at least. I maybe should've caught a Tailow...
@ecuadorian_gamer
@ecuadorian_gamer 4 жыл бұрын
One simple way to counter Norman’s Slakings is to bring one of your Pokémon knowing the move Protect and using it whenever Slaking is about to use a move. Unfortunately, the TM for it, 17, is not available until you reach the Lilycove Department Store; so you will have to rely on Pokémon that learn the move naturally. Dustox learns it at level 17, Pelipper at 25, Volbeat at 29, Torkoal at 27, and Anorith at 31
@notshockwavedemon7543
@notshockwavedemon7543 Жыл бұрын
The Altaria of Winona and its Dragon Dancing shenanigans
@Chalkra
@Chalkra 3 жыл бұрын
Sapphire was my first pokemon game ever (my sister got Ruby), and I pride myself on only losing to one gym battle ever: Winona. Ironically, if I had a pokemon gym, it would be a flying type gym with just rayquaza, potentially dynamax or mega or maybe even both.
@theartistknownas9910
@theartistknownas9910 4 жыл бұрын
My team for my Ruby Play-through was - Blaziken - Altaria - Aggron - Salamence - Tentacruel - Linoone
@triggermoon2155
@triggermoon2155 4 жыл бұрын
Salatris My team for Ruby was -Sceptile -Crawdaunt -Medicham -Swalot -Torkoal -Altaria
@harrychung9822
@harrychung9822 4 жыл бұрын
What a coincidence; the two games I’m currently playing are Ruby and Alpha Sapphire! Quick note: the water starter can utilize the move “rock tomb” after defeating Roxanne. Winona is easy with Mudkip haha
@karankumbhar7749
@karankumbhar7749 4 жыл бұрын
Mystic : Combusken's fighting will be helpful against Magnemite and Magneton His primary Fire type : Am I a joke to you
@dominicbenders9066
@dominicbenders9066 4 жыл бұрын
you could use dig and a breloom or hariyama for norman thats how I did it But still love your vids
@Darkstar263
@Darkstar263 3 жыл бұрын
Norman's Slakings were hell to beat. Even when using fighting type moves against them. They withstand so much damage. Wallace's Milotic was annoying too.
@thatthinginaplace5709
@thatthinginaplace5709 3 жыл бұрын
After I fought flannery and nearly lost to her, I got stuck in the game for a while because I wasn't sure what to do, so when I finally realized I needed to battle norman most of my team was about level 40, so I was a god for the next two gym battles.
@AlexBelte3002
@AlexBelte3002 4 жыл бұрын
Brawly can also be easily beaten by a single, low level Sableye avaiable early in Ruby and Emerald versions
@jorgehuertas3995
@jorgehuertas3995 4 жыл бұрын
Ok, you are using ruby/sapphire battles. Emerald would be my go to game for this
@johnincha3866
@johnincha3866 4 жыл бұрын
For Watson and you started with Treeko, make sure to get a Makuhita and evolve it into Hariyama. Evolves at level 24 and is one thick boy.
@iSkAndRispog
@iSkAndRispog 4 жыл бұрын
Mystic, I am doing a Pokemon Emerald challeneg and well, lets just say that your list is accurate for a normal playthorugh, only in Ruby and Sapphire, definitely not Emerald.
@TheDeathmail
@TheDeathmail 4 жыл бұрын
For the twins, grass type Pokemon or dark type Pokemon or moves will also be just as good... so 2/3 starters are good against it, and even without a grass or water, a dark, steel, ghost or bug type would also work well against it...
@broomdog735
@broomdog735 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't reait was new and wondered why I'd never seen this video
@broomdog735
@broomdog735 4 жыл бұрын
Soz realize
@Feather_CS2
@Feather_CS2 4 жыл бұрын
Please do sinnoh (but I would recommend doing platinum because it’s more popular)
@randomclips212
@randomclips212 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to see norman as the champion. A showdown between father son on the pkmn league is pretty exciting
@noelsrx376
@noelsrx376 4 жыл бұрын
Slaking and that dragon dancing altaria were the hardest for me😪
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