RANKING THE SECOND ROUND MATCHUPS OF THE STANLEY CUP PLAYOFFS | BarDown Podcast

Podcast recorded on May 07, 2024.
On this episode of the BarDown Podcast, Luca, Corwin, Jesse and DZ rank the second round playoff matchups by how excited they are to watch them. They also dive into the best and worst matchups from round 1, as well as if all the Vegas hate is deserved.

[@numberyi]

I find it more fun watching Canucks win because of the hate

[@corvus1801]

As a Canucks fan I get what you guys are saying with the Oilers, We'll heckle because of the league doubting us all season but many Maaaaany fans know this is house money for us, nucks arnt the team that said cup or bust at the start of the year, it was maybe we're middle of the pack or if everything goes right we may sneak into the playoffs, so the pressures on the OIlers. .....we're still gonna go at everyone for doubting us though

[@Kreeb212]

Z flaming Luka for the Canadian goalies take was a work of art.

[@Indybone]

As a Vegas LTIRs fan living in Vancouver, go Nucks go.

[@1am2strong4you]

when is the next episode?

[@ryanrecher6542]

Elite intro by Z. Dudes elite at his job

[@mateorego1597]

lol corwin looking like a finance bro with the Patagonia vest😂

[@forkattsingen]

And Jesse getting ready for Gothia Cup. Nice.

[@rickyrougs]

its crazy that an outdoors brand has now turned into a brand for dudes that that live in the city and hate nature

[@JYD2020]

Bruins have the power of friendship on their side and that's a power so strong, it can overcome a better team. Also Swayman is an absolute animal in between the pipes right now

[@JH-gf4cm]

Canucks fan - completely agree with Jesse. The Oilers losing would be devastating - not because the Canucks are "weak" but because the Oilers cannot fail again. They NEED to win eventually and losing to the Canucks would be yet another step back and raise further questions about the team's ability to win. They got absolutely crushed by the Avs in 2022, blew a good chance against the eventual Stanley cup champs last year and are now desperate to win. A loss to the Canucks would be an unmitigated disaster. All the pressure is on them. Having said this, I'm mildly surprised at the consensus of the Oilers as a 'heavy' favourite by many pundits. I think they are favourites but shouldn't be expected to crush the Canucks, even without Demko. I think the Bardown guys have this right with all predicting a series of 6 or even 7 games. Hopefully it's a good one!

[@ssiipp7848]

KEEP DOUBTING US JESSE

[@GannerRhysode]

If Satan was a hockey team, he would be the Vegas Golden Knights

[@jarrymane5834]

You mean Miroslav Satan?😮

[@GannerRhysode]

@@jarrymane5834 I mean Lucifer

[@houstoncolorado]

The Devils wanna have a word

[@sakalaathletics]

He played for a lot of teams, but he was before the time of the Golden Knights 😂

[@pretzelhunt]

that's the opposite of their spectacular theatrical🎉 live show family pre-game event showcase kerfuffle. It's basically a rip-off of "A Knight's Tale" 😅

[@matthewsmith2237]

For the record as a Canucks fan I never thought you guys HATED the Canucks. However, stuff like Jesse saying he didn’t “think the Canucks are that good” and many people having the preds beating us. It just felt like you guys were very optimistic about say the devils last year and then with us it’s been very critical. That being said I get where the criticism comes from. Just wish you guys would list the positives more often

[@arjansahota4911]

It’s more east coast bias and being the “new kids on the block”. So I’m not surprised there’s a blind spot.

[@matthewsmith2237]

@@arjansahota4911 oh yeah for sure. Like personally I didn’t understand why Canucks fans were so mad at them saying the Canucks were a preferred first round matchup. It makes they’d think that from the outside looking in. Tbh the nucks fanbase is getting kinda annoying so i wouldn’t be surprised if they’re mostly talking about comments from the crazies

[@arjansahota4911]

@@matthewsmith2237 well as a Canucks fan myself, i just see it as fans being passionate about their team and want them to get their flowers. I think if the Canucks can consistently make the playoffs and be good in them, then the narrative will change and more people will give them credit. It’s like the Oilers in the late 2010s. Not saying that the Canucks will be like the Oilers but that eventually, they’ll get respect if they keep this play up for a few more years.

[@matthewsmith2237]

@@arjansahota4911 fair I should rephrase. A very vocal minority of the fanbase has been annoying. I just mean the people getting cocky and trash talking the oilers before the series starts as if the series has played out. I just don’t like that attitude as I think it brings bad luck. For the most part tho I’ve been happy to see most Canucks fans just enjoying the ride and what this rosters done for the fanbase and the city. After the benning era I’m happy that this teams been as good as they have. I’ll be rooting for whoever comes out of this series so hopefully we can see a cup in this country again!!! Apologies again didn’t mean to make the entire fanbase out to be bad

[@francoissabourin9618]

‘no disrespect to Canucks fans’… Proceeds to disrespect the canucks in every way possible. And I’m not even a canucks fan.

[@ThasisKidSamurie]

And then they wonder why Nucks fans say they hate Van

[@Fippelino]

The chock as a swede when starting the video and seeing Jese wearing a Grunden Bois jersey

[@gwalker4803]

Best part about Leafs fans is that they remain delusional. If they weren't so obnoxious, then the Leafs just wouldn't be so hateable, and instead they'd just be pitied. So, thank you to Corwin and his "Bruins in C Leafs in A" insistence. You keep me from feeling bad for the Leafs, and ensure that the next Leaf loss is always the best.

[@CowButter]

VANCOUVER CANUCKS ARE GOOD

[@OminousCorridor]

As a Canucks fan I'm definitely worried about the Oilers. But... since the all-star break, Nashville had a better PP, better goals for per game, better GA per game, better record etc than the Oilers. The Canucks played great defensively against the Preds, especially the PK. So I don't think it's fair to say Nashville's offense was mid and the Oilers offense is a nuclear bomb that the Canucks can't contain. If the Canucks can play as well or better defensively and get some offense going, I think it will be very close, maybe leaning in Vancouver's favour.

[@johnjohnnston3498]

I think it's fair to say if and likely when the Canucks win the Stanley Cup this year it will be through the hardest path in modern times. Starting off knocking out the #1 and 2 teams comin in hottest to the playoffs.

[@RickL_was_here]

Lol @ John

[@kripzzy6732]

I know you want to make it look like the preds are better than the oilers. But simply, they aren’t.

[@northcoasttcg]

Suspect take by Jesse here; why the hell are the oiler blowing up a team that had an insane turn around this season? In my opinion everyones job is safe here.

[@zubiecup]

Wow...none of you guys picked Dallas. It was pretty clear who the better team was in that series, too.

[@moggboylol]

Nice to see that Grunden Bois-shirt, Jesse!

[@jallenps7]

I think the main factor in the Oilers-Canucks series is post-szn experience. The Oilers big 3 has tons of playoff experience compared to the Canucks stars

[@pinballsnipes]

Also losing Demko, I just can't see Van winning the series without him

[@ghettorecords3427]

Well the best player in the world was held without a single shot this game

[@jaxsonpk1518]

How does playoff experience help you play better? They’re just playing the game they have played their entire lives

[@jallenps7]

@@ghettorecords3427 loving it

[@jallenps7]

@@jaxsonpk1518 pressure, expectations, longevity of playing against the same team 4+ times in a short span, etc.

[@Shock002]

"They really gave it their all out there, for one or two games" 😂😂😂

[@tiger5869]

I didn't watch the Jets' series, but as a goalie, I can tell you for sure that I've played games where I gave up four where I was playing better than some of my shutouts. In response to that quote, I looked up the goals saved above expected, and Hellebuyck was -5.0, so in this case, that was cap. What he really wanted to say was that his defense was abysmal, which is true.

[@chickensanimate]

Wait till they see game two of rangers canes

[@ivan88050able]

Canuck fans don't think the BarDown group hates the Canucks. Canuck fans just feel misrepresented by the BarDown group. We just want better representation and not be talked down to. Do please better BarDown Team.

[@johnjohnnston3498]

I don't hate them, just disappointed in a fatherly type of way.

[@-gumby-3381]

Talked down to? By your metric outside Colorado, Toronto and Winnipeg every other teams are talked down to? Get over yourself, Canucks are a fine team but they aren't a Colorado or NYR, chill bud. Good luck to your Canucks but I'm not seeing them beating the Oilers, and definitely not whoever wins the central.

[@matthewsmith2237]

@@-gumby-3381it’s not just that man. They were very optimistic and excited about a comparable team like the devils last year. They’ve been consistently downplaying how good the bucks have been this year and often will list the bad stuff about the team and skip over any positives. We’re not the best in the league, but we weren’t exactly a wildcard

[@LinsteadDM]

Dunno why people think this group hates the Canucks, Jesse has spent the entire year ragging on the Oilers.

[@fritzasaurus1111]

Thoughts on Girard’s visor being angled up? I thought that it was supposed to ensure adequate eye protection (komarov situation from a few years ago)

[@jamesbrooks5391]

The instant success of Vegas goes to show that the best way to build a contender is actually NOT through the draft.

[@aerodynamic3926]

WTF lmao Jesse wearing a Swedish Gothenburg non-division football shirt how the fuck did you even find that

[@Stonedead1991]

Never thought Arturs Irbe would be mentioned in this podcast, but here we are.

[@KevinJL]

Z knows puck

[@hazardbros2841]

we want more podcasts!

[@jovanferdinands1927]

“Lacerating your spleen probably hurts” 😂😂😂

[@devincowan892]

Are you guys done making episodes?

[@thenextgreat8652]

Hughes would be wise to go back and watch film of Makar on McDavid from the 2022 WCF’s. That’s how you shutdown the Oilers and make them average.

[@kristopherkurelis7588]

I tried explaining the Dallas camera difference to my Dad - took me like FIVE examples during the 1st round switching back & forth through the games in real time - then he was like “ohhhh” the only positive … when they pan to DeBoer 50 times a game …. Everyone already knows why … 🤣

[@Danstraightedge]

Still laughing at Corwin saying the Bruins should be C rated in the rankings pod.

[@BurpsMcGurps]

The collective disrespect that Bardown has for Dallas is always funny lol. I hope they continue to prove people wrong. People act like Vancouver is slept on? How bout Dallas. 0 people pick them lmao. The best seed in the whole conference who just beat the defending champs.

[@sakalaathletics]

Listen to the praise they give Dallas at 12:43 though.

[@jovanferdinands1927]

I also really do think that the astros were a lot more hated than the golden knights are

[@StevenFox-dc7qt]

Just happy the injury reserves got knocked out by Dallas

[@shinyuta]

the joke is old. And you didn't watch the series if you think that, tbh.

[@StevenFox-dc7qt]

I did watch the series. You can’t tell me you wouldn’t feel cheated if you were a stars fan and the VGK won the series.

[@soulknife20]

​@@StevenFox-dc7qtVegas looked slow. Holy crap.

[@peaboss]

New video before conference finals?

[@omfg322]

The underdog lable suits the canucks.

[@fredfredfredfredfredfredfredfr]

Y’all been killing it on TikTok, soon the recognition will skyrocket.

[@jhetland2005]

Keep dissing us, we ain’t writing back

[@SuperMadMason]

Chicago was the first to use LTIR in 2015.

[@cloakedgoat5087]

When are y’all doing round 3😫

[@CuiHu]

Jesse picking the Oilers and them blowing a fat lead confirms his curse

[@tarpsoff57]

Edmonton has been hated a lot because McDavid, as well as the what 5, 6 first over picks they got within 5 years?

[@ryanhalliday0]

I love these guys

[@pbure94]

Jesse has had some horrible takes. I would take his points with a huge grain of salt.

[@imamario]

I'd take it with a Himalayan salt boulder.

[@danielpatterson5189]

I don't think you hate the Canucks. But I think you severely underestimate them and are far too dismissive of them as a hockey team. And I do think that comes from not watching them enough or at all. They have a unique playing style not properly summed up by looking at box scores.

[@thedankswordsmantm]

Chicago did the LTIR thing first. Everyone forgets Chicago led the lobbying for LTIR exemptions, team executives across the league majorly agreed, and they won 3 cups off of it when Kane hurt his hip, and other stars got hurt long term. They got guys like Vermette, Laad, Dailey, Timmonen, kept Hossa, etc because of it. Others might have tried, then Tampa used it for their run, now Vegas. Any GM or owner complaining now, probably, voted for this.

[@Womper1992]

Chicago won 2010 and 2013 without the LTIR but I'll give you 2015

[@thedankswordsmantm]

@Womper1992 Yeah that third one wouldn't have happened if CHI didn't start the LTIR campaign.

[@spaceyeti7230]

LTIR issues = Hate the game, not the player. NHL needs to close this loophole, though

[@Boppler21]

Love seeing jessie reping gruden bois which is a swedish handicap team based in gothenborg

[@deadsofa]

Stone is Vegas's Designated Playoff hitter and doesn't come out of the dug out until it's that time.

[@ELias-vn5yv]

Last year I had the feeling in the second round that whoever won in the Edmonton/Vegas series would win the cup. The knights won and moved on to win it all. This year I don’t have the same feeling about any series, but if I had to pick a series that had the best chance of having the cup winner if you factored in both teams, I have a weird feeling about the Boston/florida series that I don’t like

[@user-ft5xo2li3h]

Leafs fan thought they were going to win, now thinks Vancouver is going to win. Give your head a shake😂😂

[@Mathias_Eggimann]

Respect to Jesse for the Grunden Bois Jersey!

[@rtzeexy374]

Did Jesse get that football jersey when he was in Gothenburg for Juniors

[@ripapa6355]

As an Oilers fan, it's an absolute disaster if they don't at least make the finals, and a fail if they don't win the cup.

[@jo4ka]

why post once every2 weeks in the midst of playoffs? Nows the time to post 3 times a week.....

[@johnbuisman7464]

"star power"

[@Steve_and]

what happend to the bardown videos?

[@jarencepurvis]

Bunch of east coast kids pretending they watch any west coast games that doesn't have McDavid or MacKinnon playing

[@-gumby-3381]

Central Canada kids, Toronto isn't Atlantic Canada. And give us a break, what you're watching Ducks vs Wild on a random Wednesday night? Yeah right. You're not watching Columbus vs NYI either, get lost.

[@danielpatterson5189]

@@-gumby-3381 we're not pretending to be hockey analysts either. Doing some research on the teams would be nice.

[@rafisanders]

As a rangers fan, I promise you, we don't like Carolina

[@JH-jw7pu]

I think Canucks chance of winning is heavily dependant on whether or not Petey shows up. Petey was a big factor in beating the Oilers during the regular season and I think the Canucks have their work cut out for them if Petey isn’t locked in.

[@jamiereid7428]

Updated my stance. Bar down doesn’t hate Canucks. JESSE hates the Canucks. I agree that the oilers have more to lose in this series though, for sure. I also think Nashville is being undersold. Since the all star break they had a better offence and a better power play than Edmonton. And a better record too I believe.

[@jmarx3943]

A more hated team than vegas? Not in my lifetime, but the broad street bullies era flyers were despised by everyone outside of philly from what i understand

[@owensantos91]

As an Oilers fan, I do feel like Jesse and maybe some other media figures are severely underestimating Vancouver. I really can see this series going either way. Idk why I’ve seen so many “Oilers in 5” predictions. At the MINIMUM, I think Edmonton can win in 6

[@AwesomeDumplin]

Was the Canucks penalty kill good or was the Predators’ power play atrocious…

[@moneydynamicmatanya9541]

Yes

[@quakzl181]

Canucks fan here love you jesse 🤓

[@obrother3750]

19:50 finally some respect for Binner. Hes gonna get snubbed out of the vezna.

[@KevinJL]

Canucks are waving them towels

[@FeddzYT]

idk if bardown watched game 1 of rags canes but Carolina only gave up two penalties, rangers just scored on both.

[@shinyuta]

if you watched the series you would know that stone should not have been on the ice. He played clearly injured with no energy.

[@grantweissbach9838]

I’ve watched the last couple episodes and it seems like Jesse loves projecting negative comments on the oilers. Like as an oilers fan we are right there but keep losing to the cup champs. I don’t see us losing to the Canucks but to say blow it up if we lose to them is such a terrible take. Like are the jets gunna trade Helly since he’s terrible in the playoffs? Or maybe it’s their tiny Dman that causes traffic goals…

[@jamminninja8924]

they've never seen an oilers game in the last 15 years

[@icryptiki5260]

I hate both Vegas and Tampa for doing what they did I know it is not cheating but My team lost to it in the 2020 finals to Tampa and then last year's WCF to Vegas so I just find it annoying my team lost to it twice

[@spencerstewart8765]

Jesse definitely embellishing really bad takes.

[@nmarples1421]

Where do the Oilers go if they lose this series? I’ll tell you. Trade/Buyout Campbell, Trade Kane, Trade Ceci, Trade Kulak. Get a legit backup who can play good hockey to backup skinner, get legit 2RD who compliments Nurse. It’s obvious that if you lose this year that the offence alone isn’t working, so get some cap space and fix the Defence first (Broberg is ready he’ll help for sure) and then upgrade the firepower at the deadline again. This isn’t a leafs or flames level of blow it up, it’s a retool to build from defence outwards.

[@TRB1497]

This is such a Leafs-esque take. This is the same reaction they have. Buyout/ship out the "problem" pieces and magically get replacements for them. That's not how these things work, unless they're planning on spending big money. Because any player that has good upside for a decent price will be looked at by 31 other teams. Buyout Campbell, absolutely. But Ceci hasn't been that bad. Kane is a playoff guy, I wouldn't be worried too much about him. Regular season, whatever, but he was an absolute menace the last 2 seasons before this one in the playoffs.

[@crystalholloway2862]

Oilers ain’t losing buddy hey by everyone knows that lol 😆

[@nmarples1421]

@@crystalholloway2862 I agree with you! I’m just answering Jesse’s question. I don’t think they lose (but man they gotta play like they want it to beat Vancouver)

[@nmarples1421]

@@TRB1497 Ceci is the largest sore spot on the team. He’s the worse defenceman analytically and he and Nurse do not read each other well on the ice. He’s more important to replace than any other player (not named Pickard cause they need a real backup next year)

[@bpastorb]

This Marner protection is getting ridiculous. These are the exact changes we wanted last year - dump keefe dump marner. Everyone said run it back.. Now we are finding out Marner was prepared to get moved last summer. Then he does it again this year and there are still goldfish fans trying to protect him? He is a toxic scourge. Aside from his awful play in the other 6 games, game 7 OT winning goal exemplifies why nobody (including every other team) wants him. If he had skated hard with Pastrnak that goal doesn't go in. Was he the only one at fault there? No absolutely not, but he is the only one that is the 'defensive genius' with insane 'hockey iq' that was in the perfect position to stop the play, just would have required him to skate hard.. we already had no faith in the other guys in that play. Sammy did his LEVEL best. Marner is lazy, has zero heart then racks up points when they literally matter for nothing. People seriously quote his playoff ppg, yet this year one of those points was his beauty goal when we were down what was it.. 5-0? If nothing happens with Marner + Keefe combo, i am done as a Leafs fan. If you want to lampoon next season at least bench Marner and waste his salary properly. The only thing more frustrating than the leafs doing the same shit over and over, is the fans that promote the idea.

[@dakotalynde1913]

Dallas in 6 even tho it's looking like 5 right now. Canucks In 7. Rangers in 7. I originally said sweep but look what happened. And Panthers in 5

[@747Cone]

Canucks have had a great season. Exceeded expectations. Oilers in 5.

[@DaneLikesStanding]

Carter Hart

[@noahaviera]

malkin and karlsson for marner

[@jamminninja8924]

this is the reason we here in Edmonton HATE you guys. if arrogance was a power source we'd have unlimited energy. stick to the laughs .

[@piercemikal]

it would probably hurt if you lacerate your spleen 😭

[@Steve_and]

where are you!?!?!?

[@Jul15227]

Damm no dog

[@KevinJL]

Wyatt Johnston and TSN Chris Johnston everyone says the last name wrong lol Johns-ton not Johnson

[@adamjohnston319]

Trust me they’re probably used to it lol

[@juhuu13579]

im a big fan of bardown, and it bothers me that DZ often feels very insecure. That makes him act weird and mean towards his friends and sometimes its hard to listen to. I'm not trying to be a parasocial freak but i thought it was worth a comment i guess

[@robbyjones1990]

Coalarado jesse come on!

[@Chiefbiggums12]

look I love watching these videos but as a whole the disrespect from the Canadian media towards the canes continues to be so annoying. We are a well rounded team, sorry we dont have "flashy" stars

[@kripzzy6732]

Jesus, this comment section is filled with fans crying over their teams catching flak. Get a grip

[@MrCowkids123]

Delusional Maple leafs fans aka Corwin can’t stand Vancouver made round 2 before them😂

[@Canuck0417]

Has Jessie had a good take ever? This isn’t a diss on him, genuinely wanna know

[@pascalprince1910]

Y’all should do a 2024 post lottery mock draft

[@kurtisscriba2137]

Who decided to bring this z guy back?

[@Theman-rl4uy]

Does Jesse actually know anything about hockey or is he a personality guy for the show . I like him though 😁

[@Indybone]

Jesse has won a few quizzes, so he knows a bit

[@ANT4G0NIST]

as a Canucks fan, I agree with almost everything you guys have said. Doesn’t happen very often lol.

[@JonSnuh]

Edmonton disrespect

[@hazardbros2841]

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[@user-ft5xo2li3h]

I thought you guys understood hockey, 😂😂