Ranking the Starships of The Orville

[@Spacedock]

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[@commentator4515]

Hey. How about doing another video of battlezone? Or ranking the UN navy ships of the expanse?

[@arbhall7572]

Lol come on Hoo! It's not a boring name at all. Orville Wright. One of the Wright brothers. Pioneers of powered flight! I myself have always been stupidity excited about the name since it was announced. Just made me love it instantly.

[@lahavmorris9919]

Please do a vid like this one for Farscape ships

[@MrCovi2955]

The Orville has been some of the best Star Trek I've seen since I was a kid.

[@travelingspartan2035]

The Orville is the best Star Trek since current Star Trek.

[@MagnanimousEntropy]

@@travelingspartan2035 Anything is better than 'current' Trek.

[@kamal_jab]

After Adventure Quest

[@rommdan2716]

It's sad how the Orville cannot be it's own thing instead of be a copyright free version of Star Trek

[@everettjohnson9374]

No Orville isn't star trek, it'll never be star trek. It's unique and should be seen as such, you do the show injustice calling it Trek.

[@shinyagumon7015]

I like how the Orville manages to have a style that's elegant and futuristic in the spirit of Star Trek without just being a blatant rip off or clone. It has it's own design language that's instantly recognizable and that's not an easy feat.

[@KatamuroTheFirst]

they really made it their own, same with the story, it started off as Star Trek but funnier and it just became it's own thing.

[@jacara1981]

@@KatamuroTheFirst FOX forced a lot of that onto them, thats why season 3 has a very different tone to it.

[@michaelgreenwood3413]

Even though the show itself is a blatant ripoff and pisses all over Star Trek.

[@zakkpierce]

@@michaelgreenwood3413 how does it piss on it?

[@Maria_Erias]

@@zakkpierce Yeah, I'd actually say that The Orville carries on the legacy of Star Trek, while nu-Trek has pissed all over it, set it on fire, cried for a while, screamed profanities at it, and then flushed it down the toilet.

[@private1177]

I love how Orville turned out. First season was start Trek with jokes. But then season 2 and specially season 3 became it's own. And it has more deep stories then I've ever seen in any Star Trek. And the jokes while still be there don't feel forced anymore or are over used. It more feels like the typical jokes anyone would do with ones friend in those situations.

[@mousermind]

lol "Start Trek"

[@anon_y_mousse]

@@mousermind They *are* just starting. Star Trek has 60 years under its belt.

[@FoxMagi]

Private117, I liked the episode in season 1 "About a Girl" where the crew argues that Bortus should allow his child to be female, but they lose. In Sexually Transmitted Disease (I mean Star Trek Discovery), the BESTEST EVAR Mikey Spock (Michael Burnham), would have single-handedly won the court case and a new EMPOWERED WOMAN would have been allowed to be female.

[@chriskelso723]

@@mousermind Orville Trek.

[@robwalsh9843]

When The Orville began, I had no idea it would feature one of the best space battles in recent memory. And I had no idea how scary Isaac's fellow Kaylons would be. I love their classic pulp sci fi design.

[@darwinxavier3516]

That was definitely the "Best of Both Worlds" high stakes episode of the show. The fact that the preceding first few episodes of that season were quiet and let us get to know the crew better only made the dark moments even darker. And that's why all the newBSG copycats fail. When everything is dark, nothing is.

[@HS-lv6wc]

What battle are you talking about? Would love to know.

[@darwinxavier3516]

@@HS-lv6wc Identity part2. That's all I'm gonna say.

[@CaptnNuco]

I love the design language of this show's FTL. Every group has those oval pylons in some form or another gives this show a unified aesthetic for each people. Moklan's are smooth on the outside but are skeletal almost incomplete on the inside. Krill are all sharp lines, piercing edges but rigged. Kaylon's like Binary 1s and 0s, negative space with the eye in the middle resembles the universal symbol for On/Off.

[@mousermind]

Did you mean "piercing edges, but _rigid",_ or am I just misunderstanding something?

[@DMSProduktions]

Kaylon are EASY to turn off!

[@CaptnNuco]

@@mousermind you are correct. Autocorrect right into a typo

[@builder396]

True. Star Trek had the same thing going by giving all (most) ships clear and distinct warp nacelles, and Im glad another show picked up on that for a change, because Star Trek ship design in the new shows has seriously suffered. Especially the mess with the Klingon ships early in Discovery was just awful. Its the perfect example of how NOT to follow an established design language.

[@sam23696]

Yeah design language is hugely important if you are going to have a space show where the ships are a significant role beyond a set piece. You can see it in pretty much any decent space show, even the Expanse, despite some people saying the ships from the Expanse are uninteresting. You know just by looking at a ship in the expanse how it is arranged internally, and that is because of consist design choices.

[@Reoh0z]

> "It's just a woman's shoe!" Well shit, cannot be unseen.

[@csongor242]

How have I not heard about the Spirit of Fire cameo?!

[@brother_bear_one7340]

What? Where?

[@electrohalo8798]

I did not know that the spirit of fire was in the Orville, but this is a glorious cameo

[@hkxeno001]

I went back to the episode it is there. The coolest unsc ship made it on the big screen before all others!!!

[@CptHer]

The Orville is such a great show. It's like a bait and switch but in a good way baiting you with comedy and then switching it with high quality scifi. Also I wish you would make a video like this for the Mass Effect ships.

[@26th_Primarch]

You know what types of ships are under shown in scifi? Salvaging ships and mobile drydocks. A video on those would be interesting to watch.

[@omalley7ups]

The designs of the Planetary Union would be right at home in the All Systems Commonwealth. I can totally see the Orville and the Andromeda Ascendant fighting together in formation.

[@metalfan9000]

Started watching The Orville at random a couple weeks ago, and oh boy do I like it! And then I discovered that Bruce Boxleitner is the president of the Planetary Union on season 3!! What an amazing sci-fi show it turned out to be!

[@tanukijessica]

Season 2 of The Orville was great but season 3 blew me away. I really hope we get more cos they set a super high standard. And also the fact they go back to earlier stories. I always wonder with Star Trek when they go to an interesting place but then you never see or hear anything from those people again. It's nice to come back and see how things have changed since we first saw those places.

[@hoojiwana]

Yeah its really great, its sorta Stargatey in a way. - hoojiwana from Spacedock

[@anon_y_mousse]

@@hoojiwana SG1 and Atlantis were two of the best sci-fi series' *ever* .

[@gabrieldarcy9067]

The orville is such a beautiful ship 😍

[@KingreX32]

So Daniel finally watched the show. It's about time. Union Heavy Cruisers are easily my favorite from the show. Close second is the Xelayan Shuttle, Moclan Fighters and cruisers I really like too. I do like the smoothness of the latter.

[@jeremydale4548]

They absolutely RUINED the Moclans for me with their extremely sexist idiocy. The fact they were EVER allowed into the union with that kind of pathetic. Stupid, and morally WRONG law is absolutely astonishing.

[@KingreX32]

@@jeremydale4548 well the Moclans are good at making weapons. The Union most likely just ignored that aspect of thier culture in favour of the security moclan weapons provided.

[@rommdan2716]

@@KingreX32 So in a sense they are worse than the Federation

[@artembentsionov]

@@KingreX32 yep, realpolitik

[@darwinxavier3516]

@@jeremydale4548 If I remember right, everyone thought that the Moclans were all just naturally always born "male" and reproduced with eggs.

[@zenkomenhi]

By far my favorite is the Union Leviathan-class, that ship is absolutely gorgeous. Probably one of my favorite capital ship designs bar none. The Moclan fighter is also excellent and looks mean and dangerous.

[@CIoudStriker]

I'd love to see you guys check out the ships from the game *Dreadnought.* It's woefully underpopulated and has some amazing ship designs, including unique-ish hero ships in all shapes and sizes. From the eponymous dreadnoughts, which oddly enough are slow, short-ranged brawlers to the jack-of-all-trades destroyers, tactical cruisers which mainly fit into support roles to finally the artillery cruisers, which are basically just gigantic railguns with engines and a bridge strapped to them.

[@edwardbarillas7263]

The game has amazing ship designs but the game itself is shit.

[@Tyr666Thor]

Orville union ships reminds me nicely of Andromeda ships as well as Star Trek ones. While still having their own flare.

[@artembentsionov]

Yeah, there’s definitely that swept Andromeda feel

[@ronin3381]

The Leviathan is absolutely beautiful. Best ship in the show, imo

[@mluby7828]

Should've had a fourth ring.

[@MyBigMouth]

The season 1-2 Shuttle is basically Blue Midget from Red Dwarf. As for the battles, I love them. Unlike a certain other show, which no longer resembles what it used to, the FX in The Orville use nice clean lines and show all the detail, whereas the other aformentioned show uses so much blur to hide the fact they've spent hardly any budget on it.... which makes me wonder where all their budget really goes.

[@darwinxavier3516]

Don't forget making every scene really dark or hazy to hide the ugly designs or lack of effort. Its like they went to the same school of bad design as Zach Snyder.

[@HeadlessChickenTO]

I honestly like the design of the version 2 shuttle. I like the added sleek lines and having more viewable area for better spacial awareness. It almost looks like it could be an evolution of the BSG Raptor.

[@archer9338]

Look at it next to a pelican from Halo.

[@LordEikasia]

Glad you mentioned the Calivon ships, I think they look really good, especially from the front. Hope The Orville gets a fourth series!

[@terryforsdyke306]

The Orville season 3 refit is definitely the best ship. On the physical model, I'd thought that was just used for the pilot, then was retired, the pilot episode version has different details on the rings at the back, easily explained considering the damage had taken in that episode, when repairing the rings they updated the design, so I'd assumed when it was mentioned they had made the physical model but quickly switched to CGI that was why the back of the rings looked different.

[@akolyadin]

I and my wife had a choice what to watch next Expanse s6 or Orville s3. We chose Orville as a more whimsical and less bleak option. Oh boy were we surprised! Don't get me wrong the season was awesome but I do hope they incorporate a bit more fun/less dramatic episodes in s4.

[@aurawolf2221]

I really appreciate channel's like yours getting The Orville out there to people because it's such a fantastic show! Here's hoping for season 4!

[@srilemobitelsrile8809]

Love it. More Orville videos.

[@Kingsoupturbo]

I like when they get hit by weapons fire, its like WHAM BOOM inside the bridge, CRACK, violent shaking, the best of any space show. Season 3, finally what Seth had in mind the whole time I think. The list is on point as usual.

[@boxfoxscoot1614]

from this brief look i really enjoyed the look of all the ships

[@fredgerd5811]

Love the Orville! So glad to see it getting coverage. Speaking of Endless Space 2, any chance we might get some coverage of the ships in that series in the future? I really love some of those ships (there are also some pretty bad ones of course).

[@TaraZaraChara]

PLEASE do a video about the ships from the Space Battleship Yamato remakes. There's tons of different ones and the creators really put detail into each fleet.

[@brydon5721]

It's not just good, it's awesome! Very enjoyable, even more so when they lean more into the sci-fi than the humour.

[@Sky_Guy]

Haven't had the chance to see this show, but that Leviathan-class is a thing of beauty! Handedly steals the #1 spot for me, no contest.

[@akiramasashi9317]

I really dig the Heavy Cruiser design, but overall I find the ship styles for the various factions a little too same-y. It makes sense for the Kaylon since they build everything according to a standard template, but all Union ships look almost exactly the same and I don't think the Krill and Moclans even *HAVE* more than one cruiser design. I'd like to see a bit more variety.

[@t3po3]

Love the Orville! I would love to see ship breakdowns

[@KURUZU43]

I've been waiting on this for quite some time! Spacedock showing some respect to The Orville...

[@artic6015]

I love the show and have watched it many times over. I do hope that the Orville makes a 4th season, even if it is to wrap up the series. This is to good to let die in its current state. Long live The Orville.

[@sameaston9587]

I love the Kaylon ships, cuz of how you said already: they look intimidating and they can pivot in all directions. What i also like is the design harkens back to HAL from Space Odyssey. I'm a sucker for evil red-eyed robot tropes. Something I like from the show's design is how each planet is color coordinated (Earth Union blue, Krill green, Kaylon One red, Moclan yellow). Even in the crazy dog fights, you can tell who is who by their associated color.

[@DerpyPenguin4747]

Yes, the fact that no one seems to use aft facing weapons drives me crazy in space battles. "Sir we're being chased again and we have no weapons to fire backwards!"

[@daverage4729]

Some lovely ships....and who doesn't love a cheeky shot at the Miranda Class from Star Trek...aka The Flying Coffin.

[@itsamindgame9198]

The revamped Union shuttle makes me think of a hybrid between a DS9 Runabout and a BSG Raptor (which for some reason always makes me think of goldfish).

[@mousermind]

He says "it's good!" and "it gets better after the first few hours" so often that he sounds like he's in denial. xD

[@XenonSlayer]

Nice choice of background music!

[@NoFormalTraining]

The Kaylon ships somewhat remind me a little of the ship from the Ulysses 31 cartoon! It might possible be some kind of tribute to it, but it could just be a massive coincidence. That said, a look at the ships of Ulysses 31 might be interesting.

[@jaredcolon4535]

I like the design of the union ships. They actually had been very close to a few ship designs I had been creating long before Orville was even a thing so after it came out I had to change my ship designs because I wanted to keep them away from anything currently on screen

[@wiq5284]

I like how the ship of the Orville is always sticking its tongue out at you, when ever your looking at it from the back.

[@wrorchestra1]

The bigger Union Shuttle reminds me of the Raptors from rebooted Battlestar Galactica.

[@archer9338]

They look like pelicans from Halo to me.

[@TheOneWhoMightBe]

"... just as you should like this video,". Smooooth!

[@MagnanimousEntropy]

I love this show and the Union ship aesthetic is by far the best. I really hope this show gets renewed. It is one of the few good sci-fi shows around and it nicely fills the hole left by the death of once great franchises like Star Trek and Dr Who.

[@infinitytec]

The season 3 Union shuttles look a lot like Colonial Raptors but lack the useful utility door on the side. My least favorite design is probably the Kaylon ships because of their roundness and emptyness, but I agree that they are used well. I kinda like the Moklan ships though but always think of those handheld vacuum cleaners when I see them.

[@frankharr9466]

I used to watch that show and it got away from me. I'm so glad to hear that it's going strong.

[@Vespuchian]

First time I've seen the Calivon ships but I already think they make better 'hero' ships than the Planetary Union. The combination of curves and edges gives them a real visual appeal beyond the other factions and I like that the quantum drive rings look to all be the same size between ship classes and just vary in number proportional to mass. They also look good in red, which is a difficult colour for spaceships.

[@notnotkevinjohn]

I'm surprised there was no comment about the asymmetry of the quantum drives on the Orville. The top loop has a drive that is angled down, and the bottom loop has a drive that is angled up. But that damned middle loop has a drive that is ALSO angled down, and this gives is a visual asymmetry that absolutely drives me crazy (no pun intended).

[@zephron28]

Ah got to love the inclusion of Zap there at the end, nice touch.

[@ryanpoulter6286]

I loved the original round shuttles. They struck me as the inoffensive designed by committee type of shuttle you'd expect from the Union

[@crgkevin6542]

Guin doin' that power slide in to the advert at the start

[@jutau]

Kandaria episode reminds me of the Star Trek Voyager episode "Blink of an Eye". Story for both were great.

[@captianmorgan7627]

I always assumed the Season 3 shuttle was a fusion of Union and Krill tech.

[@jackvearncombe9892]

How the hell did I not know the spirit of fire was in the first episode lmao

[@norm3380]

Honestly the only real gripe I have for the show is. Why is Capt, Mercer in overall command of any task force when there are Admirals about? Command is literally their only job, a Captain fights his/her ship. Maybe that's why the battles are fur balls. Every side just let's their over worked ship commanders command battles.

[@mrjoshthefreeman]

I dont know if they explain the ascetic change for the orville in comics but my head cannon as to why the ship changes from season 2 to 3 is, before it wasnt a war ship, but after the battle of earth they stsrted upgraded the ships to more war vibe same for the shuttle

[@zamataro]

I love many ships in the Orville, but the bioship is my favorite.. It doesn't meet any of your criteria in this video, but it's a ship that generated one plot, and I can easily see generating a thousand plot lines.

[@brother_bear_one7340]

I can see the original Krill ship design wouldn't have made it. It's quite similar to the Xindi Reptilian cruisers from ST: Enterprise.

[@EdKolis]

Also they called it a destroyer but it was bigger than later shown Krill battle cruisers?!

[@scottwalker6947]

I would love to see either remote piloted fighters, or AI Drone fighters in a sci-fi show for once.

[@davejones9469]

Never watched the show...but was there ever a ship called the Reddenbacher? It would be so great as long as they didn't wink at the camera while doing it, but just have it naturally come up in dialogue. Maybe it's going to explode and they say "That thing's gonna POP at any moment!"

[@jeffery7281]

The Krill cruiser really made me think of the Romulan holo ship in ENT...

[@jutau]

I must have missed the Navarian ships on the show. Those look like they took the style of today's stealth planes with those angular shaped hull layout. Also very clean.

[@EricLinstone]

Word on the street is that you should watch Orville on Disney+ as they are seeing how well it does there to see if they want to renew it for another season. But if you don't have D+, watch it anywhere really. Like he said, it's an amazing show!

[@MeisterDerInseln]

How did you not mention the reverse thrusters on the explorer class ;) I would have thought that’s your Favorit thing about them.

[@RevokFarthis]

This is the very first I've heard or seen of this show, and to be honest; I thought I was clicking on to a review of an Endless Space fanfic, because these Planetary Union ships look *exactly* like the Sophons.

[@Richy0326]

The colony ship that looks like a giant turtle is probably my favourite one-off ship.

[@pigpig252]

it's WILD that they put the Spirit of Fire in as an Easter Egg, one of the best looking scifi ships ever

[@legodoc1853]

I never noticed the UNSC Spirit of Fire until you pointed it out

[@NotMrDaine]

Season 3 gave me hard Futurama vibes. But by that I mean ... A Comedy that made me cry, a lot.

[@bencoomer2000]

HEY. When they tried to break out of the Dominion line, it was the Defiant and two Mirandas at the end. Think they were tougher than you imagine even being a 100 year old design.

[@Gamble661]

I really miss The Orville and the more time that passes since season three the more I'm afraid that there isn't going to be any new episodes. In my opinion it's one of the best science fiction shows since Firefly or Farscape and there were many storylines still to be pursued. I read recently that Adrianne Palicki indicated that she wasn't interested in returning and while her character was huge there are many other great characters and they could easily continue on without her. We can only wait....

[@beavismount]

I like a lot of these designs because they remind me of Moya from Farscape, and she's beautiful!

[@Drave_Jr.]

The Spirit of Fire transcends universes. Seriously, though, didn't know that.

[@Hel1mutt]

So did they get in trouble for ripping off the Spirit of Fire? and how did that happen in the first place? very strange

[@ethanrosenberg6570]

how did they get away with the SoF just being repainted lmao

[@CrazyNights1015]

I do love the Orville and season 3 was amazing. Only issue is that I wish they'd change up the space battles a little. In every episode when the union is going head to head with an opponent, the Union is on the losing side. Every time. The only thing that saves them is some random lucky hail Mary pass just before all hope is lost. It would be nice if just once, they emerged from a fight going, "hey, seems our ships, tech and tactics were enough to win the day."

[@treavy1]

The orvill is like space balls it’s a parody of the next generation of Star Trek but in the 21st century cgi era

[@rabiatfabian]

The "traumschiff surprise ship" is the best ship!

[@mazuzuri]

when i first saw the krill fighter, i couldn't help but think of Drej fighters from the cartoon Titan A.E

[@Malefleur]

I searched but didn't see any channel making an overview of the Ships of the Greatest SYFY series of all time: Perry Rhodan!

[@hanzzel6086]

Ok, I can 100% say that the Spirit of Fire is my favorite ship in the show. I love Halo Wars.

[@Awesoman66]

I wish season 3 was on tv so I could watch it with my parents like 1 & 2. None of us are gonna bother with a streaming service just for one show.

[@rheanrodeltaban5151]

my favorite ship is the leviathan class uss olympia mainly for admirality it just looks so cool and i like the design of the quantum drive the back is just like the orville but like flatten and looks like a leviathan like its name leviathan class

[@Renkencen]

I think you could of done an honourable mention cos you didn't mention that female domance race ship which was like a V shape if I remember?

[@Ton-rs9tg]

I love the kaylon ships there menacing and exotic and they remind me of the borg sense there probably just the orville version of the borg

[@madman2203]

Argument about the Kaylon ships and the designs, that whole outer ring is all engines and weapons. The only part of the ship with Kaylons in it, is the part that docks into them. Season 3 mentions there is typically only 2-3 in each ship per fleet.

[@SchardtCinematic]

It took me awhile to get used to the look of the ships since it intentionally has a Star Trek TNG feel to it in tone. Byt now I love it. I also like that the Irville isn't the biggest baddest ship in the fleet or anything like that. I'm assuming it's supposed to about the size of the TOS Enterprise since i think it has a crew of around 300. At the same time there are ships that look like the Orville but much larger. This show I pray gets a 4th season.

[@CybershamanX]

LOVE the show! 😎🤘☮️

[@StormsparkPegasus]

The woman's shoe comment had me on the floor.

[@fakshen1973]

I liked the first two seasons. They were an homage to 1990's sci-fi design.

[@georgemiller2129]

The Navarian ships are angular space whales. They look nice because their design touches on a known shape of something that we feel should be floating there, without being too obvious. IMO possibly the best design.

[@BrokenCurtain]

I've been looking for a video on the "Comet" from the old "Captain Future" animated series. Did Spacedock not cover that ship so far or have I just overlooked the video?

[@philrm99]

Great ranking

[@brandonchapman4532]

How the hell did I miss the Spirit of Fire in the Orville lol !?

[@archer9338]

The second union shuttle is a redesign of the Pelican.

[@axelrajr]

very nice video. one note, the Miranda class in Star Trek, while it doesn't look like it, is actually a pretty big ship.

[@SuperGamefreak18]

the explorer is my favorite though I love how much the Krill ship remind me of the romulan dederidex