Mystic Gohan is the strongest unfused character, argument ended. This was the 2000s message boards.
@aname26226 ай бұрын
end of z goku?
@Supersonic-ll1ie6 ай бұрын
We’re talking about Eoz gohan 💀💀
@Supersonic-ll1ie6 ай бұрын
Not DBZ Gohan
@rickyronny40196 ай бұрын
Facts
@spincycle67243 ай бұрын
yh but Goku trained for 10 years and gained a buff thanks to grand kai
@johnredden7436 ай бұрын
I think Goku has to be number one pretty cleanly. 10 years is more than enough time for Goku to not only catch up to Gohan but surpass him. The gap between SS3 Goku and Gohan wasn’t so large that Goku would be behind a rusty Gohan after 10 years
@MegaMachiOnline6 ай бұрын
this list has some hot takes frfr
@spincycle67243 ай бұрын
fr bro said Vegeta is the smartest fighter
@Jon804Official6 ай бұрын
Yo @BigTune are you excited about the new series that’s coming “Dragon Ball DAIMA” ?? Make a video about it
@lorddukfoxyzeppeli79213 ай бұрын
2:50 what if he fused with Lord slug or dendey instead of kami
@DaddyChetty2 ай бұрын
Yup this is the most accurate Z list
@Vejitaha6 ай бұрын
Himhan is on top
@gg49356 ай бұрын
can u do this same video, but for dragon ball?
@Flipitmixit4 ай бұрын
1. Goku 2. Gohan 3. Vegeta 4. Majin Buu 5. Uub 6. Trunks 7. Goten 8. Piccolo 9. Future Trunks 10. 17 or 18
@SmurfENT13 ай бұрын
Chiaotzu not being on the list is criminal
@anime_world66846 ай бұрын
By end of Z, vegeta said there being someone that can match goku is impossible, and vegeta compared himself to goku so vegeta was probably saying himself, goku, and uub are top 3
@798jeremy4 ай бұрын
Vegeta has been the strongest character at least 4 if not 5 times in DBZ, excluding the main villains: From his introduction to the Saiyan Saga until Freeza got introduced, then among Freeza's opponents, he remained the strongest until Goku completed his training on his spaceship before landing on planet Namek. Then after Goku got his body stolen by Ginyu, Vegeta got a zenkai boost making him stronger than the Ginyu Force and beating up Goku that got stuck in the healing tank for a while, until he got fully healed and a zenkai boost for him as well. When Vegeta unlocked SSJ, he managed to do better against the Androids than Goku and even Future Trunks ever did. He let Android 19 absorbed a lot of his energy and still destroyed him easily, to the point Dr. Gero got scared and didn't even try to fight him even though he was really confident in front of Goku (and he wasn't aware of his heart virus). When he fought 18, even though he totally lost against her, he resisted so much longer than Trunks and Piccolo did against 17, even though 17 is stronger than 18 and she was playing with Vegeta...but he was still fighting with a broken arm and just kept getting back up hit after hit, while Trunks and Piccolo just went down with 2 hits each of them. Even without his heart virus, Goku wouldn't have done any better, Piccolo himself stated that and he's both the best fight analyser and power levels reader of them all. After his time chamber training and achieving his "Super Vegeta" form, Vegeta was the most powerful character once again. Even with Trunks, because Vegeta knew the bulky SSJ form above his own would be totally useless because of the loss of speed it would give him, so he achieved it but just gave it up knowing this would be pointless anyway, unlike Trunks which is still far less experienced of a fighter than his father. Before Goku and Gohan were done with their training and Cell becoming perfect, Vegeta was legit the strongest character, period. When he went Majin, before Majin Buu was released and Goku revealed his SSJ3 form, Vegeta could arguably be considered the strongest character at this point, because he managed to knock out Goku while they were still both SSJ2, and even though Goku had technically a unliving body, Vegeta benefited from his Majin state that granted him more endurance, with extra resistance to pain and damages, even crippling ones like Spopovitch showed sooner. Just saying!
@Triniprince14205 ай бұрын
To say that Gohan SS wasn’t as strong as SS Goku in the Namek Saga is insane.
@YeetoTheYeetafic3 ай бұрын
5:34 goku has more BIQ and trains smarter 7:53, kid buu is the strongest version of buu and goku almost rivalled the power with ssj3 in his alive form
@ACertainMan4 ай бұрын
The utter downplay 17 shouldn't even be on the list Goten and Trunks are far above him in power, Trunks with a single Ki held back blast almost killed android 18, Goten posses power not the least bit inferior to Gohan making him far above the androids. Gohan is NOT above end of Z Goku, Goku is stated by Toriyama to be the strongest in the universe by the end of the buu saga. Uub is far above mister Buu, Uub is literally kid buu in terms of strength and we already saw how mister buu vs kid buu went.
@kumarayush99504 ай бұрын
Lol stop lying, when did Toriyama ever state that Goku is strongest at the end of Buu saga?
@ACertainMan4 ай бұрын
@@kumarayush9950 Goku: the always pure strongest in the universe Goku is #1 after all. You being ignorant doesn't excuse you calling people liars.
@kumarayush99504 ай бұрын
@@ACertainMan I'm just talking about end of Buu Saga .. Goku is not stronger than Gohan at that point. No amount of mental gymnastics can change that
@ACertainMan4 ай бұрын
@@kumarayush9950 so now you are just assuming that this statement is not in reference to the end of the Buu saga? When that's when Toriyama said it? That's mental gymnastics on your part and as such shall be labeled as cope. Goku is stated number 1 by the end of the Buu saga in the Buu saga itself lol, Toriyama wrote that. The mental gymnastics are on your part not mine, I'm giving you imperical statements from both the show, supplements and the author. Daizenshuu: Goku's feelings are only understood by his fellow strongest. "When the 2 strongest people fuse the greatest master in the universe is born" "Kakarot you are number 1" The Manga "Vegito > Gokhan → Goku/Vegeta > Goku/Vegeta" El Manga Legendario.
@kumarayush99504 ай бұрын
@@ACertainMan Toriyama wrote Goku to be the strongest by the end of Buu saga? .. Provide me the source buddy for this ridiculous statement of yours first then we'll talk further Goku was scared of facing super Buu who Gohan bodied with ease, did you not see that?
@liamroma36775 ай бұрын
Do we count that one short film where goku and vegeta said that goten and trunks could beat frieza???
@zgxcvy2 ай бұрын
and counting fusions top 3 is 3.Gotenks 2.Gohan 1.Vegito
@numberhunter624 ай бұрын
If we wanna be technical, the strongest in Z is Vegetto.
@Majinbeck_exe6 ай бұрын
Gohan being the strongest is such a myth. Vegeta literally said that Goku is the strongest. End of Z Goku is stronger than anyone. He fodderises gohan
@DynastyZwarrior906 ай бұрын
Vegeta wouldn't have known how strong Gohan was. Goku himself considered Gohan stronger than him. End of Z Goku is another story.
@thirdworldrenegade6 ай бұрын
When it comes to the Peaceful World Saga (End of Z), I'm only gonna count Goku and Uub. While Piccolo and Vegeta have more than likely gotten stronger, there's no way to gauge where they stand. Or anyone else for that matter. The manga and anime scale differently from one another. Please keep that in mind. Strongest to weakest... Manga scaling, original run Super Saiyan Vegetto Super Buu, Gohan Absorbed Super Buu, Gotenks Absorbed Ultimate Gohan Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks Super Buu Vegetto Goku (Peaceful World Saga) Super Saiyan 3 Goku (Kid Buu Saga) Kid Buu You can place Base Vegetto higher if you want, but that also comes down to what your Potara Fusion multiplier is. He also transforms immediately, so we don't have much to go off in terms of combat and power. However, as a Super Saiyan, Vegetto tops the list. Manga scaling, includes DBZ Movies 14 and 15 Whis (Resurrection 'F') Beerus (Resurrection 'F') Golden Evolution Frieza Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Goku Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Vegeta Saiyan Beyond God Goku Saiyan Beyond God Vegeta Frieza, Fourth Form (formerly his Final Form) Super Saiyan God Goku (Battle of Gods) Super Saiyan Vegetto (Fusion Saga) Movies 14 and 15 were continuations to the manga. While they were retconned later, these movies are still under the Z branding, so they count. Anime scaling Goku (Peaceful World Saga) Uub (Peaceful World Saga) Super Saiyan 3 Goku (Kid Buu Saga) Kid Buu Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta (Kid Buu Saga) Innocent Buu (Kid Buu Saga) Super Saiyan Vegetto Vegetto Super Buu, Gohan Absorbed Super Buu, Gotenks Absorbed Vegetto being that low isn't a mistake. I don't like it myself, but the in-universe statements, and power creeps bump him down quite a bit.
@joeybrown5673 ай бұрын
1. Goku (SS3 Goku is close to gohan in strength at this point and with 10 years of training. It is obvious Goku is stronger) there can even be an argument made for ss3 goku buu saga > Ultimate Gohan 2. Vegeta. After 10 years of training he most likely surpassed gohan since gohan was not training and probably got weaker. Hard to Imagine Vegeta could not surpass Gohan in 10 years if training 3. Gohan (if he kept up with his training he would be 1st) Tbh only clear answer is Goku 1st. Vegeta being stronger than Gohan all depends on his training and we can only speculate but will not have a clear answer. Im sure Vegeta could have achieved ss3 in 10 years. But we will never know
@43-7056 ай бұрын
What about fusions or beerus? He was introduced in Z! Battle of Gods dragon ball z!!
@fulsted71676 ай бұрын
Goten and Trunks being weaker than Frieza is completely wrong. Especially when pre time chamber trunks scared the hell out of 18 with a single blast. You clearly dont understand power scaling and are not qualified to make this video properly.
@sigiligus2 ай бұрын
Gay comment. There is no such thing as “being qualified at power scaling.” Power scaling isn’t a real thing, it’s just losers on the internet interpreting drawings
@Mike-xh2vmАй бұрын
@@sigiligusHe is right about them being avove Freeza Though.
@Triniprince14205 ай бұрын
Future Trunks was as strong as SS Vegeta and SS Goku without the heart virus???? Where are you getting this from? SS Vegeta was stronger than SS Goku without the heart virus, Picollo stated this very clearly. SS Goku would defeat SS Trunks most likely mid diff or low diff. Before the HTC, it was SSV>SSG>SST
@pjen71982 ай бұрын
Why 17 but no cell
@dilanrashid16094 ай бұрын
Goku should be 1. Goku was at the end of z stronger than everybody, thats why someone Like Carthu is saying that Black Freezer should be beaten bevor End of Z.
@lekawahjohnbazia81886 ай бұрын
i am the second to comment
@eranshachar99542 ай бұрын
As usual you are wrong about something. Bejita is not the smartest even if you are his biggest fan. He allowed Freeza and Cell respectively to transform instead of being unfair as he should have been. He also allowed Boo to hatch it's his fault. So do you get my point? He is smart but not the smartest, I think Piccoro Jr. is a way smarter fighter than him. Also putting Good Boo above Oob is wrong. Oob is the reincarnation of Kid Boo, and Kid Boo kicked the shit out of Good Boo super easy. So I doubt Oob hasn't got stronger on potential alone/training off panel/screen. I agree that Gohan is #1 at that continuity, and just too bad he didn't show up to kick Kid Boo's ass. Goku's mistake.
@Description_2 ай бұрын
Not that Deep bro 😭
@eranshachar99542 ай бұрын
@@Description_ You don't have to read it if you don't feel like it. I wanted to make my point that's all and it was long.
@spincycle67243 ай бұрын
Sorry but Vegeta is not the smartest Goku and Piccolo take the cake for that even if Goku is the MC he was the only one to figure out how to master SSJ,has martial art experience and surpassed Vegeta in the time chamber despite having less time
@TreFKennedy2 ай бұрын
To me Cell games HimHan is forever number 1
@JakariWilsoon2 ай бұрын
Yamacha
@blackphysics98566 ай бұрын
This list is hot dodo
@crestofhonor23496 ай бұрын
My personal top ten from strongest to weakest would be 1. Goku 2. Gohan 3. Vegeta 4. Super Buu 5. Piccolo 6. Perfect Cell 7. Android 17 8. Android 18 9. Future Trunks 10. Goten/Trunks
@thirdworldrenegade6 ай бұрын
When it comes to the Peaceful World Saga (End of Z), I'm only gonna count Goku and Uub. While Piccolo and Vegeta have more than likely gotten stronger, there's no way to gauge where they stand. Or anyone else for that matter. The manga and anime scale differently from one another. Please keep that in mind. Strongest to weakest... Manga scaling, original run Super Saiyan Vegetto Super Buu, Gohan Absorbed Super Buu, Gotenks Absorbed Ultimate Gohan Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks Super Buu Vegetto Goku (Peaceful World Saga) Super Saiyan 3 Goku (Kid Buu Saga) Kid Buu You can place Base Vegetto higher if you want, but that also comes down to what your Potara Fusion multiplier is. He also transforms immediately, so we don't have much to go off in terms of combat and power. However, as a Super Saiyan, Vegetto tops the list. Manga scaling, includes DBZ Movies 14 and 15 Whis (Resurrection 'F') Beerus (Resurrection 'F') Golden Evolution Frieza Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Goku Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Vegeta Saiyan Beyond God Goku Saiyan Beyond God Vegeta Frieza, Fourth Form (formerly his Final Form) Super Saiyan God Goku (Battle of Gods) Super Saiyan Vegetto (Fusion Saga) Movies 14 and 15 were continuations to the manga. While they were retconned later, these movies are still under the Z branding, so they count. Anime scaling Goku (Peaceful World Saga) Uub (Peaceful World Saga) Super Saiyan 3 Goku (Kid Buu Saga) Kid Buu Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta (Kid Buu Saga) Innocent Buu (Kid Buu Saga) Super Saiyan Vegetto Vegetto Super Buu, Gohan Absorbed Super Buu, Gotenks Absorbed Vegetto being that low isn't a mistake. I don't like it myself, but the in-universe statements, and power creeps bump him down quite a bit.
@LuarIbriqi-qf4fh4 ай бұрын
Atcually Future Trunks at the end of the cell saga should beat Android 17 and 18. Just look what he did to they're Future counterpart!! Androids stand no chance against Future Trunks.
@thirdworldrenegade4 ай бұрын
@@LuarIbriqi-qf4fh I think he meant the main timeline Androids when making the list. Although, I can't imagine Future Trunks being weaker than either 17 or 18 before the end of Z.
@pjen71982 ай бұрын
Vegito is number 1
@mranonymous39216 ай бұрын
Wrong
@Trunks75003 ай бұрын
🫡
@jschannel63196 ай бұрын
Tori called Goku the strongest by the End of Z. Goku was at 1/100 of his power in Boo’s body, and fought a replica of Ultimate Gohan who was on par with the original. Kid Boo is absolutely stronger than Super Boo. Gohan is not beating Kid Boo 1v1. His Genki was not enough to fuel the Genkidama beat Boo alone. And with that, Gohan had to give as much Genki as he could without dying to fuel it. Goten was also stated to be on par with Beginning of Boo Saga Gohan as well. On Future Trunks being more powerful than that Cell, that was obviously contradicted by the fight. He showed that he can enter a Grade 3 like state as well, and besides that, he was absolutely not going all out. Oob is literally the reincarnation of Kid Boo. That fight just shown how much stronger Goku has gotten, that he could possibly beat him in Base.
@jschannel63196 ай бұрын
With Gohan, there’s one statement that called him the mightiest warrior, but that statement is only applicable for his first appearance, not the rest of the manga
@jschannel63196 ай бұрын
There’s also a 2018 V-Jump scan that states that Boo after absorbing Gohan gained power that rivaled that of SSJ3 Goku
@jschannel63196 ай бұрын
And Vegeta is absolutely NOT the smartest fighter in Z. Firstly, he didn’t even train at all until after Namek, and when he did start, he brazenly tried to brute force his gains, instead of properly resting. Goku is a way smarter fighter and trainer than Vegeta. Vegeta even after a second trip into the ROSAT still couldn’t achieve Grade 4, Vegeta himself even admitted that Goku trains smarter and was still stronger than himself in their fight. Vegeta after 7 years still couldn’t even close the gap between him and Goku. And I’m talking without SSJ3 as well. Vegeta had to get the strongest potential unlock in the series from Babidi to only be relative to SSJ2 Goku. Babidi’s power unlock is described to unlock your potential beyond its limits. Elder Kai’s only brings all of it out; not beyond its limits.