Fiberglassing In Winter Was Way Easier - Ep. 403 RAN Sailing

[@boomerbits2297]

No matter which angle you film, the boat looks enormous.

[@suesun7072]

50 ft is enormous!

[@landmark1212]

Until I came across your channel a few years ago, I had no idea two human beings could accomplish as much as you have. You are amazing. Keep up the great build on "Vera II"!

[@guy1137]

RAN 3

[@landmark1212]

@@guy1137 Ha I suppose RAN 3 makes more sense, but VERA II is my sentimental favorite. A nice way to acknowledge both are their children, with Vera #1!

[@shackletone7314]

I think you have invented a new treatment for boats, Boattoxing

[@RANSailing]

😂

[@davidnichols147]

Truly remarkable, you both are so generous supplying us with this remarkable accomplishment every week is a blessing to all your viewer's.

[@CrustyAbsconder]

You are all amazing. In the years you have been hard-working, I have been sitting on my couch watching KZbin

[@jerrystott7780]

A long time ago, when I lived in a hot place, we would work from 4am until noon, then knock off until evening when it cooled down. Have a great day.

[@markhuddleston5239]

So glad you are teaching Vera multiple languages. Love your videos.

[@LandyAndy62]

Great to see you making such progress on this mammoth project - but the real pleasure is to watch partners working together to a goal. Best wishes in all you do guys 👍😊

[@WalterThorne-h5k]

100% music, editing, photography!

[@gregvaughn4286]

So great to see Real People Take on such massive project and do it. Thanks for sharing.

[@MrFloatmaster]

Hey guys great progress. 1 of the best tools to use when laying glass is a 6-inch plastic spreader. Use this first before you use a roller. Using a light touch, you can manipulate the glass A whole lot easier and reduce air bubbles considerably also works great with peel ply.

[@greghart6310]

Well done guys, temperature control is vital for any resin work. Perseverance pays off! Glad you are finding methods that work and are progressing well.

[@cutaway7405]

What a sweaty job....that's just 1 reason I like watching your guys ➡️ you do things right and don't hesitate to brainstorm a situation to make it better and improved! We admire you ingenuity and your ability to stay the course, we'll done you 2!!❤❤❤

[@normanboyes4983]

Those that know can fully empathise with you on that first session of internal layup. I love the fact although you have lots of knowledge and skills this is the first time you are actually doing this specific task and you analyse and critique in order to improve - and all the while aspire to the very highest standards. Amazing effort on a very difficult task for only two people - given the size/layout and access. Another pair of hands for wetting out would have made a massive difference. Congratulations.😀👍⛵️

[@glenntaylor5638]

If you ever want to use a drogue in heavy weather, may I suggest you strengthen your upper hull at the stern for future horizontal drogue attachment plates. What a great job you are both doing!

[@runristaren2]

Slow progress is still progress.. don’t be so hard on yourself, sure the timline might be changed but you know the boat is perfect ✊👍✊👏✨🇸🇪✨

[@richardrich2710]

might help the air under the glass if you wet out the wood before laying on the layer of glass plus this helps keeps the wood from soaking up to much of the epoxy.

[@waynedahl6904]

You are giving your daughter something really awesome. Not the adventure is sailing but to see her parents doing something amazing. When I was putting down wood floor or remodeling our bathroom or whatever I told my kids and grandkids that I don’t expect them to learn how to do it but I expect them to know that if their stupid old dad/grandad can do it the when their time comes, so can they.

[@David_VanOsdol]

To get rid of air bubbles, just get a Exacto knife and use the #11 blade to pierce the bubbles. This allows the air to escape and does not harm the glass.

[@hanstinekevangorcum9718]

What a sweaty job. Respect for keeping on going.

[@ptt0]

I saw a dream of you laminating the hull. 4 big box fans two at each end of the barn. All the cloth was cut for the entire hull ready to go. Inside there was this big guy with a power sprayer hooked directly up to a 55 gallon drum. On both sides of him there was were a total of four other guys just laying and rolling out cloth, when one side was sprayed the other side was being rolled back and forth straight down the entire hull. Beside supervising you had a suspended a gantry from the ceiling where you could swoop in to problem areas dealing with the air bubbles, suspended by ropes and pulleys that could adjust you over the spots you wanted to focus on. In three days the job was done and you went on a sailing picnic to your favorite near by island. Where you talked about rare known Swedish picnic holiday food that only the locals know about.

[@rayyoung7780]

I was in your country during a few days in mid July. I was surprised by how typical your home is of all of the part of Sweden I saw. You mentioned the weather. We encountered a lot of rain while there and I was surprised at how humid it was there. We left the US under an extreme heat warning with temperatures reaching 118 degrees Fahrenheit. I expected the cooler temperatures you have but not the humidity. In fact I was often as uncomfortable there as I am here in the western US. You live in a beautiful place and the people there were so nice. We traveled to Sweden by bus having arrived in Scandinavia by air from the US. We landed in Copenhagen, then took a ferry to Oslo and then traveled to Sweden passing through Karlstad and eventually ending up in Stockholm. The trip was really nice (my first time in Scandinavia). As I am now in my 80s, I doubt that I will get to return there but I am glad I went. I am enjoying the boat build. Thanks for sharing.

[@kristaready8812]

You guys are the best! You're always so positive and a joy to watch. I'm happy you figured out the problem with the first two sheets and were able to solve it going forward 🤗💞

[@thebermudaangle9958]

You really need a thin cotton long sleeve top and pants (cheap sleepwear eg) under those suits to absorb sweat. It's like wrapping yourself with plastic!! Amazing project! 🎉

[@michaelgillespie6526]

Wonderful episode! You guys are building and living the dream at the same time. Cheers to you all from B.C.

[@theasiamtmgroup]

I’ve just spent the last 2 weeks watching your videos, lol. I’m a bit disappointed I’m caught up now, but wow, what a journey you’ve embarked on. I’ve just subscribed, this is excellent content.

[@paulstuart8676]

Hi guys, you have a good point about the ceder not wicking much epoxy. However please think about pre-sealing the wood, let it go tacky then you can start to see the off-gassing bubbles before the cloth covers off-gassing pockets of air in the timber. You may like to know that years ago we knew of this problem and the timber was sealed with a full coat of resin (sometimes thickened to a runny paste), allowed to harden and then sanded smooth before the fiberglass cloth was applied. You may still get some bubbles but very few. Cheers guys

[@RANSailing]

We used that method on the outside but you still get air bubbles if the temperature is going up. Cheers!

[@dalebuckley6073]

Vera is doing a good job of keeping the shop clean

[@HopeOfJoe]

OMG, what exciting work…….putting together the equipment of your future adventures. Something to be said of doing this with your own hands. 🙌🏻 🙌🏻🙌🏻You three are amazing………and loved the drone section sharing your oasis in the middle of farm fields.❤ See you next time. ✨🌊💨⛵️🏝️👙🌞✨

[@fastfreddy]

Great job - staying cool mentally and loving each other during those “air bubble” episodes , it shows “a will” both of you have to succeed. Take care and keep your quality where you want !!

[@KarlFullerNZ]

I'm glassing my hull in New Zealand and close shed doors until glassing and open them to drop the temperature with a breeze through the shed. It usually means I can start about 3pm. Really enjoying your channel!

[@ascott6804]

This couple... They're not just building a "boat"!! We get to see a wonderful moment in someones life. I'm getting a shirt or something!! Edit: it's on the way.

[@Tim8mit]

Here in Canada after a warm and sunny day, as the outside temp starts to drop, that cooling drives the heat into out houses, and our attics hold a lot of hot air.....maybe a solution would be to open a vent in the roof of the barn allowing the hot air to escape and be replaced by cooler outside air, or just a big fan exhausting the hot air from the attic.....good luck can't wait until there is primer paint on the inside of Ran lll...cheers

[@Brenda-vz5tn]

Yes, we experience that in minnesota. An exhaust fan, installed at the high point cools the building quickly.

[@fusedglass01]

You don't have to cool the entire building. Cold sinks if you place a plastic sheet across the stern you can turn the boat into a "bowl" that will hold the colder air thus you don't need an AC that is all that powerful. Its the same concept that supermarkets use when those open top refrigerators.

[@CemeteryShop-yg6gi]

What a fascinating thing it is to build a boat at home. I applaud your scientific approach to a complicated process, and wish for your ultimate success! I can’t wait to see your splash day!!

[@marconcio]

What a TEAM!!!!! congrats!!!!

[@TomahawkMark843]

🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓 I give this episode 5 out of 5 strawberries

[@pauljohnson3573]

You're working in a greenhouse and Ran 3 is soaking the heat up. Even with the doors open I'd definitely put some big fans in there to push the air through, might help you stop melting as well?

[@richardrawling1874]

Guys - you are doing a great job on the hull. I have built a similar sized boat in foam sandwich. I solved the internal glassing issue by using scaffolding planks (aluminium so they are stiff and can span several metres). You just rest these on brackets placed on dry hull areas. Then you can work from the planks when using fin rollers and other application tasks with the wet glass. On your boat you could also suspend brackets from your cross beams to hold the planks (but you will need to beef up the cross beams if hanging scaffold brackets from them). As you are finding out, your working posture issues will get worse as the hull gets wider, so the scaffold planks can be moved where required to minimise this. Hope that helps???

[@darellgroves1506]

Thank You again Until next week BLESSINGS and PRAYERS

[@donnieallums4847]

I don’t understand how you got your wife on board for a project this big . She’s got to be a special girl ! This is a really big project . Enjoying the videos of the progress. Greetings from south east Alabama USA ☮️❤️

[@Matt-e4x]

Great vid! You guys should really have a big fan to keep the fumes from accumulating into the hull

[@denevs12]

hi, have you thought of hiring an airco and blow it in the hull. with some modifications at the back the cool air will stay on the bottom of the hull. you can even store the prepared pots of epoxy to cool down. and more important you can work in a cool space!

[@johnbrice7868]

Concerning the high temperature environment, have you considered doing the glassing in the wee hours of the morning, like 0200. Do all the prep work during the day then wake up really early and do the glass work.

[@RANSailing]

The problem is not due to the temperature level it’s because of the temperature direction. Cheers!

[@David_VanOsdol]

To make it easier to cut your glass try using a 45mm rotary cutter. I found it cuts through fiberglass like a hot knife through butter and doesn't need sharpening.

[@guymanges3628]

Thank you RAN for 403...

[@fredbreck344]

I see you working and sweating - uhhh. Respect. BR

[@SuperRajack]

Great video

[@artmraz]

Wow what a Team you two are keep them coming :))

[@ronaldwarren5220]

What a team! May God bless you.

[@ti.mythril]

There is a disk style ( pizza cutter ) for fiberglass cutting that sailing Uma used a few weeks ago ( July 2024 ) that they raved about ease of use. Looking forward to your finishing the build.

[@americanbornwalkaway9110]

SHE IS LOOKING GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@dougtheslug6435]

I always found those suits uncomfortable when you become sweaty and switched to painters coveralls which breath better. Also I use a clip on body fan under the coveralls on those really hot days......something to consider and a lot cheaper.

[@CaritasAngola]

Where we live in Oregon State, our highest temperatures of the day are around 5 to 6 p.m. in the summer. The only way we could do lamination would be in the morning. And it would have to end by 11 or noon on many days. Our climate patterns are changing and we are having much longer periods with high temperatures. This means that it doesn't cool off as well at night.

[@ianlangley987]

Its looking great. Always new challenges when you start a new process but you will master it and fall into a routine. Love watching your progress from down under in New Zealand. Cheers Ian

[@bubbabullard5191]

Keep up the good work. Y’all work real well together. I know it can be frustrating at times. God Bless you both. Bill, from Waynesville Nc.

[@angelramoncordootero4800]

Mucho trabajo animo ..👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@trevhedges]

Seriously hard work.. thanks guys..

[@33Candys]

Hej och tack för att vi fick komma i sommarvärmen att beskåda ert magnifika båt bygge. Vi får tro att det kommer att bli lika snyggt i fortsättningen. Hälsningar från Mats med fru och hunden Sally.

[@georgemacdonald8899]

Wow does the garden look nice! Some lovely video of the farm as well, a very nice treat for me at the moment as I have been stuck inside with a summer cold. If it were me, I would just take a break during the heat for summer fun, then do the fiber-glassing in a month or so when it cools down again.

[@paulthunberg4543]

Now that it is warmer you will have more problems with bubbles. I know you have addressed the topic but i have found that wetting out the wood first does help with bubbles. I agree with you about the wood not really drawing in much epoxy. I worked for a boat yard that built many cedar core boats. We always rolled on a cote of epoxy when the temp was rising.

[@garylcampbell9964]

Another nice job.

[@SquidoftheD]

That’s not bad a few air bubbles, very easy repair, if you thin your epoxy to soak the glass on the table first, then when you lay in on return to standard epoxy mix. You will find doing this that you will get less air bubbles you will be more productive and it will keep your epoxy to glass ratio nice instead of to heat and excessive off gassing

[@seankriegler]

I do quite a lot of composit work on models and full-size aircraft when doing layup to prevent airbubbles we will paint a layer of resin, and then wait for the layer to go "green" or sticky, then push the cloth onto that with your hands and a roller. That way, the cloth will not slide or loosen. Once that is done, you can take a brush, squeegee, and aluminum roller to finish up. Benefit: You will have limited airbubbles due to temperature and gasing. You can use smaller batches of resin and not have any resin go off. Downside you cannot wet the cloth out upfront. Each method has pros and cons but this might help, you may even try it wetted out on the "green" resin

[@billlambert2092]

Why not pre-saturate the cloth? I don’t see why that would make any difference.

[@seankriegler]

@@billlambert2092 one could try pre-saturating the cloth, I did mention one can try that 😏 one can experiment, I've never tried to see if it would l slide. Maybe when I would 400grm Biaxial cloth again, I will try

[@claudehopper9813]

Great video nice work and excellent music !

[@robbertdegroot4457]

Viewing your videos since the beginning, I was wondering if the lammination on the inside would be easier / more satisfying if you put first a thin layer of poxy on the wood before laying the fiberglass on top of it. the irst layer of poxy would then able to be absorbed partially by the wood and give though a better contact between the poxy and the fiberglass. Hope you see what wi mean. Great work anyway !!!

[@craigkepchar2619]

Great show. The inside fiberglassing seems like it might take a few weeks. Lots of work ahead for this to get done,

[@ehofman7636]

That was a good solution for much easier working👌👌

[@carlo1081]

Brilliant!

[@andrewjames7616]

Thankyou👍keep up the good work😀

[@nooneanybodyknows7912]

Groovy music, learning by doing, cheerful even in tyvex driping wet from sweat. 😊 Thanks for sharing

[@charles11ification]

One thing I have learned about you two. Quitters you are not!

[@sailingheron393]

We build a skiff in Curaçao outside under a tarp 🙈 It's so difficult with high temperatures. You're doing great work!

[@athosbulgari6571]

Congrats......go ahead....fantastic job

[@Jolleseileren]

Å begynne er vanskelig. Godt jobba!

[@abhijitsule-o8p]

how strong will be your ship? how thick is the wall of the ship? will it have tensile strength to absorb impact if it collied with rocks in stormy conditions?

[@danieldeanmasterfinisher4715]

Try to add a bit more epoxy to the soak process leave it on thick so it moves the bubbles out easily , the a little less on your stopping piece , it’s all a learning curve and what works best for you . Looks great . You got this

[@ngbc5342]

I would suggest you try to source some prickly or pin rollers to deal with air bubbles in addition to the ribbed variety when rolling out the resin saturated woven glass? Nick

[@patwhite640]

I have 2 suggestions... Cover the hull with plastic sheet and put an AC unit in the boat. Also the thing you're using for transporting the fiberglass on, thought Mavbe use like a rolling pin.

[@SteelDoesMyWill]

Tyvek suits are great for really dirty jobs but they also trap heat. When you are laminating in a controlled indoor environment the risk of getting epoxy all over you is much lower, just go with long sleeve T-shirts and comfortable trousers that are sacrificial. I just buy some 'work' clothes from the second hand shops or use other clothes that I have already retired for painting or epoxy work. Keep the gloves and eye protection, save the Tyvek suit for bottom jobs or grinding fiberglass.

[@RANSailing]

Allergies from epoxy exposure on skin is something that develops over time and you never know how much exposure you can have before it’s too late. Once you get allergy it will be very hard to continue working with epoxy… Getting epoxy on a normal thin long sleeve goes straight through, that’s why we use the suits. Cheers!

[@erikjalefors9377]

Yeah isocyanates is nothing to gamble on !

[@sailoutofagarage6212]

I agree to both, full dress is very uncomfortable, but no one wants allergy, how about open back clothing?

[@rutted_coffee6641]

@@RANSailingthe cumulative effects of heat stroke are much worse than epoxy allergies in the long run imo.

[@andersonautomotive]

I've managed to become allergic to epoxy, and trust me, you don't want it. We're sailing in the tropics, and a Tyvek suit seemed like certain death. But having to take strong narcotic pain meds to get to sleep only to have to do more epoxy work again the next day is no picnic.

[@erikjalefors9377]

Great video! Educational about laminating on wood , never thought about off gassing with rising temperatures!

[@allsearpw3829]

Hi, once again amazing work you are all doing . Ran will be your chateaux on the sea .😉👍👍💅

[@tomkaufer5327]

Johan- I think if you had a couple of well placed beams athwart-ships, you could have a couple of planks running fore and aft for a false floor. It has been quite an impressive project so far… wish I lived closer!

[@EchoesofthePast-XII]

Please prime the entire hull before you laminate the rest.. you will have less bubbles and better connection.. You say it your self, the gassing from the wood. We have the same issues with floors, that gas/air in the concrete wants to expand in raising temps. But if you have closed the surface with primer, you won't have that... You did it on the outside (at winter) you should do the same now, specially when its summer. Regards the epoxy floorman from Denmark :D

[@mumblbeebee6546]

As an amateur aerialist (silks, ropes etc.) I envy everyone with a barn (let alone a boat, a wonderful family and a garden :0) so I can’t help thinking what you should do is Mission Impossible-style in a harness from the ceiling - you’ll reach everywhere :) More seriously though, with summer to stay for a while and the boat build to take a few months more… would it be sensible to install some plastic curtains around the boat and a decent heat-pump? It would also work for winter work by creating a stable working environment? Sailing Uma had it easier by only doing interior work, but it sped up their project so much. Different scale of course, but perhaps worth it. Either way, thank you for the video, yours are oddly calming and exciting at the same time! 🧡

[@ExploringCabinsandMines]

Ive always whetted out the wood with epoxy first.

[@shaneriehl223]

Ive had really bad luck with folding fiberglass. It generally doesn’t flatten well at the fold. Not sure if that’s part of the issue, but sounds like it was and that you fixed it on day 2😊

[@ScotChef]

😂 just amazing. 👌🏻

[@dennismalcolm6620]

You guys make a great team 👏 👍...that's a lot of work but I believe that you know what you are doing and are up to the task 😉 🎉😊...

[@FamOhu]

Hi there! Two ideas: - what If you, even if you look like Michelin-Men, fit ventilation in your Tyvek-suits? - would it help to vaccum bag the layers? It could get you Independent to temp? Good luck! 💪🏻

[@DaleShirley-o1u]

A miss Vera B another great video Amigo and Amiga

[@HellyWelly93]

Lots of learning curves!

[@sailinghaldis]

Regarding fiberglass inside boat. Consider using the very thin weave as the final layer on the bottom portion of your bilge to create a smooth surface. My boat is HR 44 and it’s very smooth down there. Any debris that gets into the bilge flows into the deepest part and can be removed. Less chance of your channels through bulkheads and stiffeners to get clogged by debris.

[@benshore7357]

Good times 🎉 if you could have 2 other people just wetting out the cloth then you could stay in the boat. You get a good sense of the size at this stage 🎉

[@SquidNick]

Start your day earlier, not later. It'll be cooler in the morning than the afternoon

[@RANSailing]

It’s not the temperature in itself that’s the problem, it’s the direction it’s moving. We want to work in an environment where the temperature is slowly falling, that’s why working in the early morning won’t work. Cheers!

[@Notdave29]

Wouldn’t pre-coating the wood with expoxy a day or two before alleviate the air bubbles by sealing the majority of the surface? Or would that incur too much penalty in cost/time?

[@paulboden7850]

Go sailing! Continue on RAN lll when the weather turns cold. 🤷‍♂️

[@FRkiddo]

Love the show!

[@RANSailing]

Thank you! 👍😊

[@chetdogspoon]

Another great episode, thank you!!

[@forresta65]

very big workshop fan would really help.