Which boat - Koopmans 46, Hallberg-Rassy 49 or Diana 60? - Ep. 181 RAN Sailing

[@DowneastThunderCreations]

Before I retired as a naval architect and marine engineer, people would ask me how I could keep my design practice open since hull shapes can be so similar. My reply always included an explanation of how everyone has a different idea of what the ideal boat is and that's why there are so many designers and variations you see at boat shows. Even then, boat designs intended for the masses are always a crap shoot, and never please everyone. That's where custom options come into play and re-designs during re-fits. Whenever someone would ask me what I do for a living, I would tell them I'm in the business of selling dreams! If you find a boat design with a size, hull shape, and general interior layout you find reasonable, you can always fine-tune the vessel to fit your specific needs. Of course, you can have just about anything and everything you want providing you have a very thick wallet! All the best in your search, and I'm looking forward to finding out what you decide on.

[@philgray1023]

Perfectly summed up.

[@popsoldboats3406]

Or you can always flip them till you get the one you really want or afford to have it built.

[@donnabryant4183]

Woaw.............Diana 60'!!!! It looks like a great fit!

[@brendanhayes2752]

If the boat speaks to you, listen. The smile on your face was the best when you opened the engine room door.

[@dtonvista]

So far the Diana 60 would be the boat of choice, big boat, lots of work!

[@birddogmason9862]

I’m with you Johan, the Diana 60’ is sweet.

[@davidnierzwick2775]

I remember an engine room that is calling you Johan!😁 "Joooohaan"

[@RANSailing]

Haha!😂

[@miles4874]

Haha! what?....lol...

[@trevorward9680]

It’s so true.....you need that engine room Johan!

[@charliecruzen3394]

The engine room is just indicative of the fact that it's built like a proper ship. Priceless

[@mobiltec]

An engine room with the name Johan on the door. That's the only boat where he had a smile on his face you couldn't wipe off with sand paper.

[@alexeykozakevich5643]

The last boat ( Diana60) looks pretty well thought out even that you didnt show much of it. A positive: a narrow galley, big windows, dog house (HUGE!), cutter rig. The negative - is a skeg rudder but you can live with that, its a lot better then a long keel boat from the last video.

[@paulquigley1855]

Good lord that 57 footer you looked at in the last episode is looking better and better. I know I'm not you guys and it's not my money, but good grief that beautiful boat looks perfect for you guys, especially with the baby coming. Love you guys hope you find the right boat and jump on it before someone else does.

[@RemodNC]

I love these boat tours. You are really doing a good job filming, explaining what you are seeing, and editing! Thank you!

[@robinhodgkinson]

The Diana 60 is the clear winner this week - general condition, quality of construction, cutter rig, furling main, doghouse, great internal layout, good galley, good value - use one of the rear cabins as a utility/storage/spare cabin. Lots of good points - I’ll take it! Though at 60’ it’s getting up there... Of course there’s no perfect boat. It’s just a case of where and on what you compromise and finding the right balance for you. Happy hunting.

[@highvibe4839]

Hello, go for the 60 footer aircraft carrier, it was a beautiful yacht, and you got so excited, your normally really chilled, so follow that passion and smiles I say, and what a man cave of an engine room! I hope you bought it, you will manage with some friends on board while Malin busy with Vera and settling in, then you will master it as a couple as times goes by!

[@geekdomo]

The Diana 60 should be on your list. She is a beauty!

[@garysouza2277]

I agree....but since the only comment they’ve given a “heart” to is the one about the boat with a tiller and stand up engine room, I think I know what they got. Too bad in my opinion

[@geekdomo]

@@garysouza2277 Yea she is probably top of their list right now. I dont think they have one picked yet? There is a bit of a delay so maybe they are already living on her :)

[@garysouza2277]

geekdomo Yea-the Diana 60 would be my choice.....if I was looking for a 60’ boat!! Thank God I’m not....lol

[@mx__8109]

From looking at you in the last Videos, I would say only one boat touched your heart and made you both smile!

[@garysouza2277]

Keep looking. The Diana 60 is the closest to what you wanted in a cruising boat, but it is a very big boat, much bigger than what you said you wanted.You know what you want. Don’t settle or feel pressured....Everybody that’s pushing the one with a door to the engine room doesn’t understand living on a sailboat and cruising. Just because you can stand up in an engine room is not a reason to buy a sailboat that doesn’t fit the rest of your needs any more than picking the prettiest colored boat. How much time are you going to spend in an engine room? You need a boat that fits your live aboard/ cruising needs.

[@lisahanlin5317]

Glad you are not rushing into buying something you will regret later. Way to stay focused..enjoying the videos keep them coming.😊

[@michael.m6413]

Hi Marlin and Johan, the Diana 60 is a fine yacht. Big aft deck and a salon with many windows to look outside. Good cockpit hardtop. The 57 feet ship from last week had a very small cockpit. And the deckhouse is to small and to slowly speed. You need much more fuel. Best regards Michael

[@elgordo6883]

Thanks for taking us along. It must be extra work filming and editing these videos when you really have so many things to consider. Your work is very much appreciated. You have an excellent way of describing and noticing the differences on the boats. Keep up the great work and good luck in your shopping adventure.

[@santosbay]

the last one was very nice, thanks for sharing and have a nice weekend

[@simonjconnor]

ok Sunday morning, time for RAN sailing and a cup of coffee, sit back and enjoy :)

[@allied1394]

Johan can’t get over the price and that stand up engine room I’m so looking forward to seeing the new boat plus johan as we age it makes it easier to be working standing up rather then hunched over 🤣

[@atir4u]

Oh Malin your so sweet and funny. I laughed when you were describing the second boat, like going into a cave, made Johan laugh too.

[@martinleepgg]

The walkin engine room boat is the one. I do love that big sales yard.

[@petertorrey236]

Congrats on your precious baby girl ! Both of you are experienced, competent sailors..so, imo, you can handle a bigger boat. Also.. with the new crew the extra space will be comfortable as you will probably be spending more time exploring and parenting between passages of any length. Great, funny episode btw ! Boat shopping...fun but extremely stressful.

[@dhamma58]

The Hallberg-Rassy made me think of our favorite Italian in the power plant.....whose H-R is coming along nicely! Also, the teaser for next week is always welcome.

[@gunnaralaeus5609]

I reallly appriciate your thoughts and discussions when you guys are looking at these boats. It really get my own mind to start thinking how my perfect cruiser would look like. Thanks a lot. The videos realy makes the gloomy pre-winter days a lot better.

[@Taugtaug]

I think the best Yacht so far is the classic ship from last episode. Beautiful interieur and special enough to attract more subscribers. Downside, it's slow and maintenance is expensive. But you'll earn more money also.

[@davebrubeck1489]

Malin does not miss anything. Wicked sharp.

[@sailingmarie7097]

I can’t say I’ve seen one that suites you guys yet. You just know when a boat is for you. It’s your guts telling you, this is the one. I don’t think you’ve had that feeling yet. :)

[@freedomrider30]

Y'all are killing me!!! LoL. But the tours are A+! I know you have already found it and I'm having to wait! LoL Darn guys A+!!!

[@jeepjeff9131]

I really don't prefer any one out of all you looked at but if I had to choose it would be the 60'er from what I saw. Nice huge deck to relax and let the baby play on. Didn't see the engine room though.

[@alan-sk7ky]

Diana 60 looks like a home, plenty of room to grow a family :-)

[@johngeronimo8172]

These episodes of you guys looking at boats are great!

[@martinevans75]

I sailed on the hallberg rassy kismet in your video. We were delivering it from the Netherlands to Lefkada in Greece. There were a number of issues with her on the passage. Then when making our way towards the Gibraltar straits, we had a serious interaction with a pod of orcas and spent two hours with them bashing up against the rudder. The damage meant we had to leave the boat in Gibraltar. I flew back to the Uk and out to Greece to my own boat instead. I think you made the right choice.

[@marcvaillancourt4670]

Guys! The Diana, hands down, great boat, layout, and price! Thanks for sharing the adventure.

[@davejones17]

The 60 looks very nice..😎

[@billfournier6114]

Love the videos. You're in no rush. Keep looking. You will find the right boat or maybe the right boat will find you!

[@upkpoxer]

Thanks for informational and detailed videos!

[@stuartmcmichael5250]

The Van Meer 57’ is the one... just perfect for you guys and new crew member baby Vera

[@KarelBeelaertsvanBlokland]

Interesting to see these different large boat layouts!

[@ElementofKindness]

21:15 Boy! You nailed it. With all these boats you've been looking at, it seems like there is a pattern of cabin space being somewhat an afterthought to the entire design. Even that one boat that the designer who built his own boat, seemed like there was no well made plans for the interior.

[@curtisprincemusic]

I think so far the Halberg Rassy is the best boat you guys have looked at! I know voyaging boats well and the HRs are some of the best boats built. Smartly set up, the fit out is meticulous, and they are great sailors!

[@tomnichols4871]

My opinion? The first one is the best deal if you guys can swing it. Lots of things can be done in a walk in engine room. Good luck and Merry Christmas.

[@SourBogBubble]

Man that 60' and those renovations.......seems live a good value.

[@billtauklotz1592]

Such stunning scenery. I enjoy this a lot. Reminds me of my trips where I take the good music like the Guns N Roses, Imagine Draongs or the Delta Parole and then enjoy the powerful feeling of the sea. ¡vamos!

[@garymcaleer6112]

The Diana 60 is your best choice. Size matters. Larger boats can better handle larger waves. Not to mention the berth comfort for you, your wife, and baby in the middle when you set anchor in a quiet cove.

[@anjongaustrejr3633]

Big engine room.... I like that..... Travelling made easy.... More space.... Lots of fun...

[@carleenh4946]

Cliff hanger!! Thanks for sharing your journey. Vera is beautiful and I know you will find the best boat for your family. All the best from 🇨🇦

[@warrior9086]

So far I have not seen a keeper, only dock queens.Good luck with the hunting.Cheers

[@CoolCompanySE]

Imagine entering the cabin completely soaked from a torrential rain like the one you just experienced here. To the left you just throw your wet clothes into the dryer, and to the right you just open "The Door" and step into the warm engine room. Just like a good Finnish sauna. But with tools. Can’t get any better than that! The 57´ is the one.

[@RANSailing]

😂

[@gunsmoke6230]

It’s the 57’. and everyone knows it!

[@garysouza2277]

Yea cause that’s where you’re gonna step....into an engine room.

[@johannwolf1]

Congratulations again. Correct choice in my opinion for a real full time home. I also noticed this Diana in the listings, I like it, but lot's of narrow tunnels and can't touch the OVM, for spaciousness, livability, Film-ability, natural light with butterfly hatches for meters (important for your videos) and simple charm and old world high class. I hope to see you out there some day! I will recognize her from 2 miles.

[@mikenewzealand4525]

That last yard where you looked at 3 boats had my name written all over it lol .I would soooooo love to spend a week there looking at all the forsale boats!!

[@jez987s]

Thank you for sharing. Very interesting to see all the different boats and their layouts. Look forward to watching more.

[@never2oldadventures]

That Diana 60 was a great looking boat . Would be close to the top of the list of boats to purchase possibly? Hope you guys find the perfect boat for your family. Until our courses cross, fair winds and full sails. Jack and Billie

[@corujariousa]

I am not familiar with the Diana 60 but if it is well recognized for being sea worthy, to me it is the winner. The Hallberg-Rassy is of great quality but that layout is very bad for live-aboard (all factors you mentioned). I wish you luck finding in the search. All the best. I hope mommy is feeling well.

[@bobmiller5352]

Great crash course. Have learnt a bit. So far, not considering value, I loved Kismet..Keep them coming !! Thank you

[@tednottodd]

Thank you very much for your honest and in depth impressions of these boats. I think any boat owner would agree that there is no such thing as the perfect layout. You always have to make sacrifices, and each person's experience and needs are different. You will find the boat for your family that suits your needs!

[@prmartin7259]

Another great video. I think you wait until you see the boat coming in at home, could be a winner .👪⛵

[@JDHood]

Patience always pays off. If anything, I would tend to want a bit more boat than you are currently convinced you need. You will rapidly grow into it.

[@gacastro]

Really enjoying your boat investigations. I’ve been watching your channel since your snowy departure! Looking forward to more.

[@SailHosailing]

I think you both fell in love with boat from previous episode and you won't like any other one

[@miles4874]

lol....we all know you both love the “Love” and it has been sold.....stop the tease!

[@stevehofmann9525]

It is like when you two meet. You probably both knew immediately with no doubt or reservations that the search was over. So don't be in too big of a hurry. When your bell gets rung you generous know it.

[@bubbagail7450]

Great video guys. That teaser at the end on another boat, sneaky. Hope all is well with you and the little one.

[@j.g.hermanson3943]

Sinks on the center line! yes best designs like old S&S Nautor Swans

[@mikecolucci771]

The HR will get you around the planet safely and in comfort. I can not speak of the other 2.

[@jackvisser]

(Diana 60) and this is wishing you and Your Family a Very Merry Christmas

[@music-man]

Hey guys. Just wanted to wish you all the best for a great Christmas and for the New year with the birth of your daughter and a new boat yea! all the best to you. cheers.

[@GEORGIANBAYNEWS]

This is getting exciting!

[@carstengrove6214]

Cany wait for you guys to buy another boat!!

[@chrissnyder7968]

Two comments if I may. One, soon you will be sailing/traveling with three, safety should be a key consideration in layout. Two, before you write off the HR (aft cabin) I’d schedule a visit with the yard and discuss modification options to the aft cabin. HR is not far from you and would be worth a day trip to meet with them. I’ve personally seen what they can customize and they do outstanding work. Note: I am biased as I own an HR 48MK II but they are so great to work with - and their Parts Dept will have anything you ever need for your boat :-). Best of luck whichever direction you choose.

[@ammoalamo6485]

I am very glad to see a couple able to view a boat with a critical eye to their own needs, and not be persuaded only by fine woodwork, or some small feature that will be forgotten after the first week of ownership. Given the layout of the first boats, the Diana 60 would be the preferred boat among that group. How could it be otherwise, since the Diana is at least 11' longer and no telling how much wider than the rest, plus priced lower? For me, none of this group 'floats my boat'. I am surprised that this couple is limiting themselves by not checking out catamarans or trimarans in their price range - no more heeling over in a brisk breeze! Live life standing upright, or laying down on a level surface - like gravity meant humans to live!

[@blainenorthrop5260]

Very interesting going along with you shopping for a new boat.

[@sailingavocet]

i really enjoy it

[@mememe5231]

My wife and I are really enjoying watching your videos! A boat we really like and aspire to own is the Caliber 47LRC a solidly built boat. We were able to see one at the Newport RI boat show a few years back. Maybe one for you to consider. Best of luck!

[@sonnylange3051]

I really like that Diana 60, Though its fiberglass it looked brand new!

[@wincrasher2007]

I wonder why he added another layer of glass. was there a problem with flexure, or maybe bad blisters?

[@coming_home]

Great episode, with so much to learn for Newbies like me ... Standing Engine Room looks the best to me ... Fair Winds!

[@RonLaden]

For me the Van Meer knocks spots off these 4 boats, I think she is beautiful, the layout is superb, more traditional and far more like a home than a boat. The walk in engine room is a great feature and a bit special with the enclosed cooling system and other equipment. Also the build of the hull which is very heavy duty, I think she would sail as if on rails in heavy weather. I would feel very safe crossing an ocean in the Van Meer. Its your decision though not mine and I wish you well with whatever you decide on, good luck.

[@catmandabrasa3799]

Great to watch your boat hunt. I see a lot of similarities in mine....like platform, material (no steel!!), sturdiness. I have some additions as: no teak-deck, a swing keel/very shallow and a DS or dog-house. Like allways with boats we will be finally caught by heart as nearly happened by you at the Olivier vd M. Good luck on your search.

[@carmas54]

The best boat you have found is the one from last week with the long skylight and beautiful engine room and the best price

[@SailingYachtZora]

My Zora is a koopmans 38. Fantastic cruisers

[@ZoneTelevision]

Koopmans are great looking boats and pretty quick for cruisers.

[@thomasblesinger9374]

I like your boat hunt. Such an interesting time. It is good to go slow on this.

[@Barbreck1]

Another great clutch of reviews guys, really appreciated that. I too was eyeing Kismet (the Halberg) and also didn't appreciate the rear cabin. She looks in much better condition than the website images suggest, so that was a surprise. The Diana certainly is a lovely boat and at a decent price point but she is big, isn't she? Tempting, very tempting! :)

[@mattcox5540]

Oh that cliffhanger 😀. Great job!

[@RVLifeNOW]

Yes the Diana 60 looks like a nice one! But so much boat to clean the bottom of, keep the inside clean, and to pay for when you go in to a marina with it. I didn’t notice if it had a swim platform or not. How big do you need...you gonna have 5 kids? You head must really be spinning! Good luck -Rebecca onSV Brick House

[@rgray318]

That 60' seemed like a good opportunity to me at 199K. Even if you discovered that it truly was too big I believe you could put it on the market yourself for 249K and walk away with a profit and a much larger budget for the next boat. I absolutely loved that one.

[@ushillbillies]

I certainly am enjoying the great boat tours ,,

[@dalegraham4058]

Merry Christmas Sweden. 2020 will be a game changer bringing much joy to your family. Thanks for sharing your travels and aspirations with the world. Canada

[@robertmichels8127]

voting for the engine room ,, great boat best one so far

[@adampatriksson3014]

Älskar Tayana båtarna, extremt stabila, dock väldigt trötta i lätt vind pga dess vikt. Men byggda för stora hav!!

[@bjmartinphotography]

I have an Amsterdam friend that criticize us in Houston for not being a bicycle city so I made him ride in July, he almost had a heart attack, taught him a lesson. You don't ride the bike 8 months of the year. Boat shopping is fun while we are sitting on a computer, hope it was fun for you two before you got the new one.

[@robg1247]

I always liked the Helberg rassy 54’ great cruiser and racer too a very fun boat plus very comfortable 2007 - 2013

[@keithcope8113]

The last boat was just wow But my main concern is i would say is deck space topside. At first it wont be so bad but as Vera grows she will be wanting to be outside alot so deckspace needs to be wide enough for her to move around without fear of falling overboard. Im just a worrisome old grandpa lol good luck searching.

[@10lauset]

Keep looking. These boats will still be there as will the next ones. No pressure, no stress. There's lots of time. Cheers

[@133dave133]

The big boat from your previous video still take my vote. The Diana 60 is nice, but it had an osmosis treatment. I'm sure that boat is hiding more saturation/rot issues. I'm sure that you guys watch SailLife. He's still finding water issues.

[@captainmike808]

The Tayana 60 because it it a CT built boat and fast. Also the hidden berth is just cool!

[@MajTom-wd2yt]

Engine room yeah...but you must remember the full size washer, dryer and dishwasher. I look at it this way......Sandra wanted to go to Cleveland on vacation, but I’m the Husband, so we went to Cleveland.

[@SVImpavidus]

As always good sound thoughts on cruising boats for those of us who live aboard and sail the seas. Ant, Cid & the Pooch crew.

[@SailorBarry]

Awesome, such a nice boat!

[@glenn6229]

As always another great video. The double overhead hatches you referred in a previous video are often called "Butterfly Hatches" in the USA.

[@Chris-fo8wp]

Keep looking!! Good Luck!