Ranting About Roxy's Game! Finale of Karen! - Mushoku Tensei Anime Rant Post Response

[@l30nard03]

Honestly watching you go through that brainrot post was hilarious thank you Andrew😂👌

[@MrWescottX]

Indeed 😊

[@sergiudana8716]

Damn, that's A True mangod Apostle if i ever seen one

[@johnknapp952]

One of the best things about this show is that it doesn't treat sex like most other anime out there.

[@ShiNijuuAKL]

Do you mean as practically inexistent? 😂😂

[@porky1118]

Not just anime. I think Rifujin made a good comment about it. I don't remember it exactly, but it aligns completely with my views. Either sex is treated as dirty or as holy. So dirty would probably be dirty jokes, which are pretty common in modern comedy movies. And holy would be if they hide/censor sex and intimacy or if it just doesn't happen at all.

[@francisconavarro4251]

Well let me tell you something, I’m an anime only and I could understand the story and characters motivations perfectly, later on thanks to you I managed to see that skip content and yeah it would has been great to have it but I think that just having morality and a bit of common sense (something that this review guy doesn’t have apparently) it’s possible to understand the plot. For example: that story perspective of Eris, I would watch an entire spinoff series of that story you can bet that I would love that but with out it, to me I could understand Eris feeling and the why she loves Rudy, I know that she wasn’t good with communication and that I know that she loves him much because we just have a death situation in the first act with the dragon god, I saw her love and fear in her eyes and who she idolized him. Jesus I love this anime and this characters so much.

[@thelegendaryklobb2879]

I agree. If you watch the anime with attention and you have a common sense, you can easily read between the lines,understand the emotions and infer the inner thoughts of the characters that have been skipped due to time and medium constraints for this adaptation. The amazing voice acting, the superb art and animation of facial expressions and body language, all together effectively convey the emotional aspcet of the characters. Andrew's content have added a lot of context for me, but mostly from the completely skipped parts of the story. Many other times they just confirm and expand what I already understood from the anime by itself, s.o I think the anime has done a great job in storytelling

[@juusovuolle8251]

Rudeus broke through 3 sets of walls and 2 rooms full of monsters before reaching the room where Roxy was imprisoned in. So it is technically possible that she would have been able to fight her way to the third floor. But she would have never been able to make it through the floors to the surface all by herself. Pauls entire party could not reach the third floor without Roxy. They tried 5 times.

[@MrWescottX]

Yup.

[@christianfuraha5645]

Actually when I saw Rudeus break the walls, I was thinking why Roxy didn't also try that.

[@deathdoor]

I think one reason you have to consider why Rudeus was able to save Roxy is that he isn't a labyrinth diver. Everyone was playing by the rules, what to do and what not to do on a labyrinth, and the teleportation labyrinth own rules. No one thought about using earth magic to blast thought walls because that was an official no-no to do on a labyrinth. Even guessing that Roxy was somewhere on the same floor, you need someone crazy and irresponsible like Rudeus to even think about knocking on any wall. Roxy could escape alone but being an experienced labyrinth diver she couldn't think this solution.

[@JoseLopez-gi9sf]

​@@deathdoor it isn't that she couldn't think of this solution. To everyone in that world blasting though walls of a labyrinth is a huge disadvantage. You don't know what it on the other side of that wall, you don't know if you will cause the whole tunnel to collapse. The risk are far to great for the reward. Rudy not being an explore of dungeons. And having unlimited mana. He just blast and shapes walls to his advantage which is something people can't do. An earth mage could make a wall but not at the same time as blasting through one. Plus the time wasting of chanting earth magic can cause the death of a teammate. Rudy not understanding that makes him the perfect one to just bulldozer through. Essentially making his own labyrinth. Roxy could never do that because the time it takes to chant and break a wall would leave her open to an attack. Especially if she a water mage not an earth one. She is one of the most powerful water mages in current time. And yet she could only freeze the outer layer of the monsters just to give her enough time to stab and smash them. While the way Rudy thinks he could freeze the whole room including the blood of the monsters without even hurting Roxy in that room. The level of Rudy is that of a God something most people would never even see in that world.

[@deathdoor]

@@JoseLopez-gi9sf Oh, a forgot that Rudeus is a cheater.

[@lupusreginabeta3318]

4:52 She literally said in the beginning of season one the Man of her Dreams would be a Young Good Looking Adventurer that saves her in the depths of a Labyrinth. This is exactly what happens it would be weirder for her not to fall in Love with him😂

[@ODST_Parker]

Couldn't have asked for a more fitting conclusion. Misreading, horrible interpretation, complete lack of understanding, blatant hypocrisy, and so much more. Absolute modern social media brain rot on full display. They even threw in some weird stuff like how they're actually okay with polygamy, and how they're apparently an anarchist? I'm holding my psyche together with spit and duct tape most days now, and people like this make me feel sane. I honestly expected more rage at the scene between Rudeus and Roxy. Maybe the changes really did make the difference between simple stupidity and unhinged lunacy, but there was never any world in which people like that would approve of the story unfolding before them. Here I am, feeling like even fans of the series were harsher than I was on my first watch, even as an anime-only. I didn't immediately condemn or justify Rudy's actions, just made an attempt to understand what was happening, and fell in love with the story even more due to that level of depth in the characters. Then I see this mindset, where they are evidently incapable of separating their own real world from the fictional one. It's sad, truly is.

[@demoulius1529]

I feel people who watch series like this and have an issue with it, but watch game of thrones are perfectly fine with everything unfolding are everything thats wrong with modern day clynically online people. They also miss the most obvious point of all. These arent real people or stories of real people. Its fiction. People cant destinguish real life from fiction and its kind of a frightening prospect. They also miss that you can enjoy a character or series while acknowladging that the people in it are horrible people. Like game of thrones for example, 99% of the cast are scumbags. Yet people have no problem watching that series whatsoever. Its kinda strange...

[@InfamyOrDeath-__-]

Oh wow, this person doesn’t even know that Roxy was going into the dungeons looking for love, how did they miss that?

[@MrWescottX]

Indeed

[@MrWescottX]

For real 😂 this person have not read LNs or watched the anime

[@christianstephan7301]

Well I'd say that she did not specificly go dungeon diving for this purpose, it was just her idealized version of how she would find love. But the series quite obviously stated what Roxy wished for - and thus it should not be surprising for ANYONE that she would jump for a situation that is exaclty like she imagined her first love to be.

[@InfamyOrDeath-__-]

7:52 I thought he was a 45 year old man, now he’s back to being a kid when it suits her argument.

[@Loooooong0]

It’s a matter of perspective. In Roxy’s perspective, Rudeus is a child since she doesn’t know about his past.

[@lucasvanwijngaarden670]

​@@Loooooong0 If they want to talk about Roxy's perspective then Rudy is an adult. Age difference also would be viewed differently in a world where long lived races exist.

[@РайанКупер-э4о]

We don't know this person gender. Let's don't try to assume it. English allows us to use singular they for this cases, let's use it. It's actually convenient when you become accustomed to it.

[@deathitself6985]

​@@Loooooong0 She saw him as a child he isnt when they meet again. In MT a medieval fantasy setting 15 is considered of age

[@mithos789]

@@deathitself6985 15 is middle age.

[@porky1118]

I like how your Karen voice is almost your Mangod voice :)

[@Ricardo_Rick]

Funny how she did the "actually she is not a loli" thing that antis usually do when they want to thirsty over lolis but want to keep being toxic against lolis XD Also, Shinobu? good taste

[@Zero-no5vf]

The title already gave me headaches

[@MrWescottX]

I bet

[@theboneman7379]

Considering your on vol 21, I can understand your love and defensiveness of Zenith.

[@NiceCorn188]

Wait (anime only here, so no spoilers pls 😭) so in the future we are going to hate Zenith or not like her that much?

[@theboneman7379]

@NiceCorn188 you'll like her. Can't really say more than that.

[@NiceCorn188]

@@theboneman7379 Oh my

[@lupusreginabeta3318]

30:19 If Sylphie really thought Rudeus might kick her out while she is pregnant she has a bit of a weird way to look at Rudeus Character 😂

[@sandwichman6765]

Andrew straight up died after 26:48😂

[@InfamyOrDeath-__-]

38:48 Oh Andrew, you think they had a father, bless you. This is definitely a very unhappy woman who’s never been in a relationship, because no one in their right mind ever would get into that horror.

[@komocakeps527]

probably the "dad" is a deadbeat Chad who clearly stated he wanted no kids but the "mom" insisted and tried hoping she'd change him but nothing happened.

[@porky1118]

But she(?) said, she was polygamous herself, so she must have at least 2 relationships, right? Or she probably just wouldn't be opposed to having multiple partners. But since she doesn't want intimacy nor children herself, she might not even be too close with their partners, even if she has some.

[@RaxorX]

20:26 Paul didn’t even need to die for this to happen. Paul was originally saying for Rudy to get with Roxy. He even mentioned the needing of “two swords.”

[@nunyabizness3866]

Gatekeep your hobbies or Karen’s will ruin it.

[@chicopatata33]

the worst part about this series is definitely its haters. they wanna treat this like its a simple plotted magical girls type content. i hate the harem/sexual fan service trope of anime and avoid it like the plague. but ive never seen MT as anything thats solely about that. its literally a mentally premature guy whos had an abused past and is given a chance at a better one. ppl are so upset about this 'predator' because they still see him as that ugly old incel and thinks he doesnt deserve redemption and happiness at life. they fail to see the entire plot of the story as a whole

[@copeul7214]

This poster is the definition of a attack on titan title "FINAL SEASON PT.3 FINAL FINAL CONFLICT"😂

[@porky1118]

6:40 The main reason why I wouldn't want to get into a relationship with a much younger person is, that I will likely die much earlier. But if I had a higher lifespan, this wouldn't be an issue to me.

[@Sleep1ngDr4gon]

I feel like I suffered also like you do in this video. lol😂

[@aissatousy338]

finally they can move on! god it must have been so hard for them to force themselves to continue this eries

[@MrWescottX]

Indeed

[@Snow-c6e]

The voice that you doing this hilarious

[@Mecks089]

I don't think you do requests, but if you ever could, I'd like to see you react to an anti talking about Miss Kobyashi's Dragon Maid. Her youtube channel is/was Noralities _(she's long been inactive for about 2-3 years now)_ but back then she made a very big buzz on moral disputes in the ani-youtuber community talking shit about MKDM, the mangaka of it, loli based anime, Isekai anime, and _"problematic"_ anime. It was later proven Noralities was a hypocrite for drawing Yaoi of My Hero Academia boys. The internet didn't hold back against her lol. I know the conflict is very old now, but hey, more content for you.

[@thelegendaryklobb2879]

Of course this poster had to be "non-monogamous" and hate the concept of parenthood and family! You'd think these people would be more okay with the harem aspect of this story, but after realizing Rudeus really is a family man that just happens to have more than 1 wife and cares deeply about each one of them, then their little minds are blown away. He's not the correct type of "non-monogamous", they would rather have him in vapid, self-serving and unstable relationships that end up hurting everybody in the long term. But hey, when they want to criticize him suddenly objectifying women and cheating are a big deal!

[@lupusreginabeta3318]

31:27 Spoiler to Rudeus Cheating Consequences He actually faces consequences latter on that has just not been animated yet😂

[@rukmag]

I don't think I will ever understand people shouting from their soapboxes about MT. Like dude seriously it's a piece of media chill. And media involving problematic subjects is usually the most entertaining ones. But if you want to play this game let's play it. Breaking Bad- First time Walter saw Jessie he should have turned him in to the police because drugs are bad. Show over. Game of thrones - Way too much incest and murder the showrunners should have stopped after episode 1. The Boys - The supehero's should turn themselves in because they are big meanies. The show would have stopped before episode 1. David Attenborough's Planet earth or other similar documentaries. Animals die. Need I say more? LITERALLY EVERY ACTION MOVIE someone gets hurt or dies. The story should stop there because that's bad mkay. Congratulations we have no more entertainment

[@InfamyOrDeath-__-]

Hahaha we’ve finally come to the end of this horrendous take on the series.

[@sergiudana8716]

Are we finally free

[@MrWescottX]

Yew

[@christianfuraha5645]

I would like Otaku Spirit's thoughts on this too. I kind of get the point of consequences. Even tho Sylphie said it was ok to bring other women, she still must have felt hurt, especially after he promised when he didn't have to. I think such a relationship/situation would be hard on Roxy, too, since it feels like she is invading into an already established family that even has a baby on the way(although Rudeus should have told Roxy he was married when they were still in Begarit). Eventhough Sylphy said it was OK, I thought she would still feel bad for Sylphy's situation. This is all so reminesant of Paul, Zenith, and Lilia, all be it that situation was more intense but I can't help drawing a comparison.

[@deathdoor]

Everyone feels a bit "bad", and Sylphie accepting this is part of her character, her flaws. She truly puts herself down in comparison with Rudy. This situation didn't ended there, we'll get to know more about how Sylphie thinks and feels about, there'll be developments around the middle of next season.

[@mikeluna2026]

One of the first things Rudeus did when he arrived in Begarit was announce in front of "everyone" that he was married. I can see how you'd forget to state it all over again when in your mind you already did it. Plus, everyone was busy either preparing for the next dive or actually participating in the dungeon dive. Rudeus himself never considered the posibility that Roxy might have a crush on himself, so he missed the signs. Only reason people keep saying "he should have told her" is because as viewers we undertood what was going on way before he did.

[@deathdoor]

@@mikeluna2026 The anime made it a bit better adding that bit with Paul giving him "advice" and Rudeus not getting what he was talking about. At least on Rudeus side. While he was depressed he had forgotten about his family in Sharia, he really wasn't thinking about them, that's why so lost. Roxy is really the one to discuss, but... so what? She made a choice and it was a bit of a surprise to see that Roxy was able to do something she herself thought it was wrong, plus taking the most of it what she could. She isn't the perfect saint Rudeus thinks she is.

[@JoseLopez-gi9sf]

This is what makes Sylphie a Saint. She was never upset he took in another wife. Her self esteem is just as low as Rudy. You don't get a lot of that in the anime but more in the novel. Sylphie was a bit jealous at the beginning when they were children because Rudy would only sing praises about Roxy her teacher. Sylphie never got to meet this person back then because Rudy saves her after the fact Roxy saved Rudy when they were children. After Rudy is sent away. Sylpie was going to go on a rampage because her "God" Rudy was sent away. She calms down and still hangs out with Paul's family to still try to feel that closeness to Rudy. When she is Teleported she is with the Princess and Luke. She sees the really gross things they do at night. And she realizes nobles are all horny dogs. Which that includes Paul having two wife's and Rudy. So when Sylphie meets back up with him at school she is so scaried he could never love her because he is strong and can have any number of women just like Luke. And even Luke teasers her all the time saying Grayrats love women and Fittz just doesn't fit that mold. Which makes her so sad and actually lowers her self esteem even more. When Rudy walks through the door with Roxy. Roxy the goddess. Rudy being serious. Sylphie thought she was going to be thrown out of the house. She would have preferred seeing the beast girls because at least she would have a chance to be by Rudy's side because she was a bit stronger then them. So made she had a chance to fight for her love. With Roxy she stands no chance. So it wasn't that we didn't get to see her being hurt. It was more that she never thought she could be a good wife for Rudy to begin with. Which is exactly why Eris left. She also didn't think she was good enough for him.

[@JoseLopez-gi9sf]

​@@mikeluna2026 indeed, this is the way to understand things. I life we only see things from are own perspective. When indulging in media we see it from the outside looking in. So we see all the points as the viewer. Had we been Roxy or Rudy or anyone else in that story we would only be able to see it from their perspective. Which we would forget to see the signs or remind people of things already stated because it waste a lot of time when we are on a mission that has nothing to do with the small details.

[@McNastyFlows]

Roxy basically always had feelings for Rudeus. In the beginning it was admiration for this boy with this incredible magical talent and desire to learn. He knew nothing about her or the world and he treated her like family, he respected her as a teacher, and he admired her for her capability. He is the reason she decided to strive to reach higher in terms of magical understanding and capabilities. If someone just came out of the darkness and saved your life when you had spent the last month struggling to survive an endless onslaught of monsters you wouldn't feel anything? She had given up hope. She knew in her head she was about to die. Then he wiped the whole room in an instant. The overwhelming power left her in awe, it doesn't hurt that he's considered fairly attractive as well. So a hot dude comes out the cuts and saves your life at the last second. You're gonna catch feels. Then continuing throughout the dungeon solidified her feelings for him as she sees how competent he is, she knows nothing about his life outside so it's not like she intentionally tried to ruin anything for him. He was going to die from depression cause he wasn't eating or drinking. She saved him the only way she thought might work.

[@kevinfunk83]

No point in going over this. This person calls an anime bad when it doesn’t fit within their ideology. That first paragraph says it all.

[@ogun6464]

This poster is the embodiment of the Marge Simpson meme: Mushoku Tensei is not to their taste, so no one else should be able to enjoy it.

[@deathdoor]

Did he really went, "there was some good stuff here, but let's forget that for now to keep searching for the bad"? edit: he think he is free now? Fool! Mushoku will be back!

[@madmanmoon4038]

This was good. Bad and good lol 😂 Can’t wait for more!

[@porky1118]

It's funny that exactly Zenith and Roxy are on the title, since I had a dream about these two recently. I was at my real life grandmas place, and Zenith was also there. The doorbell rang, so I went to the door, Zenith followed me. She still had her condition, but she probably knew what it means when the doorbell rings. It felt a little weird. And guess who was at the door? It was Roxy🥳 Maybe I'm watching too much MT related content again.

[@OrstedCultist]

40:20 hour long character studies imma need these after you finish the series

[@Avitymist]

Hey man I love Mushoku and your content, but to be fair kinda who cares what some random karen online is offended by. I wish they would stop bullying the artist.

[@loganjoh1]

There is no way this person said they are non monogamous to try and convince people that they can get multiple people to date them 😂

[@deathdoor]

There was something I didn't commented yesterday but I'm still thinking about, that makes me think if the author really just tried too hard to find reason to complain of if he really just misunderstood what he was seeing, that bit about Elinalise not being allowed to kill the griffon, instead Rudeus killing it. When "adventurers" form a group, each one uses his abilities for the group general protection. Isn't about killing the monsters, it's about surviving the monster. Who deals the finish blow isn't important as long as someone kills it before the monster kills one of the group. Isn't that right? It goes beyond what Andrew talked about Elinalise saving and protecting Rudeus the whole trek to Rapan. In that particular lineup Elinalise is the one with stronger defense and short range attack, while Rudeus has weak defense but stronger and longer attack range, so it's natural that Elinalise gets in the front while Rudeus positions himself at the back to attack at a safe distance. What makes me specially curious about what the author wrote in that paragraph is that what he wrote isn't true. Actually, Rudeus was gonna miss that shot! He didn't stolen Elinalise's kill because he wouldn't be able hit the Griffin if Elinalise had not jumped in and pinned the griffon with her sword. This isn't a moment that is left for interpretation, is hard to excuse the writer. Did he just made a mistake?

[@mageius]

Please, don't use the term Karen. (Look, I have a significant other whose name is actually Karen and not all people of that name are like that, considering she works retail she knows exactly how people get when they act like that.) Yes I know you're using it to try and explain how the person is but do try at minimum to not use it as much. (Face_exhaling emote) Although, I know it probably won't help, but I had to at least make a comment on it. Good video none the less.

[@wafflewafflegod]

If this is the kind of content Andrew is coming up with only a couple months after the season ended, then Mushoku Sundays is gonna get roooouugh a couple months from now.

[@zurcarak]

35:40 💀 nah why would you cook em like that

[@MystycCheez]

man that was certainly something

[@TBoneTony]

This Karren should NEVER be part of any Classification Board positions if this is her take on a work of fiction. Sadly for me in my own country, I don't have that choice when others with this stupid mindset could screw my entire anime collection over especially with Blue Rays not being able to have a Multi-Region function compared to DVDs that had Region 0 options.

[@porky1118]

25:00 (minor spoiler for S3) This person should love the relationship dynamics between Rudy and Eris. But I guess there will be a reason why they find another issue there ;)

[@belvet6085]

Did the strong and independent person who wrote this article was consent and an adult ?

[@NothingElseHere18]

imagine when Eris joins the club

[@mattersondoom]

41:20 this part killed me 😂😂😂 i love when andrew imitates sjw

[@ezequielfernandez476]

0:30 i cant agree with that, if someone doesnt understand a situation in the anime it was because that person wasnt paying attention, if i can give the anime credit for something is that everything makes sense and is explained when it need to be without needing the skipped content to do so. Im sad this was the last one jajaja but if there are things the world has lots of is Karens so im sure this wont be the last mangod-xplaining video, i hope And i need to point something in favor of Karen hahaha i know i know, but hear me out, this Karen wont care for what was skipped, she doesnt care for what wasnt skipped so you can imagine, but lets think this person can be reason with, she wouldnt care because she is anime only so she would care about what she saw and not what wasnt adapted, she would read the novel if she cared, so you should think about it from an anime only perspective, i think this is the same complain i had with you not seen the anime as its own product back when s2 was airing but in a diferent context, point is, the anime is the anime, the novel is the novel

[@Yolei199]

It’s funny how you’re saying this it’s you’re done for now until third season comes up they come and posting more about it. Lol.😂

[@destinyshand2049]

If they're upset about this, just wait until they meet Oldeus and Orsted round 2.

[@SeismicWolf]

We need to start doing a Nyan Counter for these videos

[@edsenior]

It's simple, Andrew--never argue (at least, metaphorically speaking, here) with a person devoid of any ability to think critically.

[@PredatoryQQmber]

1:30 Immersion: ruined >_< 20:30 A 5|u7 with no real relationships hating on fulfilled trad-wives, what else is new?

[@porky1118]

3:10 Since this person seems to be anime only, maybe it would be a better criticism focuses on the anime. The ants nor the bandits didn't appear in the anime.

[@171sako]

I too felt like the peeing herself part wasn't needed, unnecessarily degrading.

[@komocakeps527]

"Finale of Karen" oh god. I'm facepalming. I'm cringing. help. siiiiiiiiiiiiigh oh well. let the pain begin.

[@171sako]

They really deaged Roxy a lot in S2. In S1 her voice & demenure was more more adult. She felt more like a grown woman "which she is" now she seems more Rudeus age "for obvious reasons"

[@m1k3droid]

I literally do not care a tinkers damn about making moral judgements about fictional characters. IMHO prudes are inherently broken people. literature, anime, etc is called ***ENTERTAINMENT** for a reason, none of which has anything to do with passing moral judgements on people that do not exist.

[@Dialga9187]

Rudeus, to this thread: “Keep my wife's name out your f****** mouth.”

[@ShiNijuuAKL]

honestly the thing with Zenith being a damsel in distress is kinda true at least for Paul. The main reason why I think Paul was in the wrong when he had his argument with Rudeus during their first reunion is because in the letters he was basically like "Hey Rudeus I know you will be ok, I need to find our family, help me when you can" which was fucking insane from Paul taking into consideration that Zenith is a S rank adventurer. Paul should've been more concerned about Rudeus (and Aisha) safety, but he wasn't and I feel weird that this is not acknowledge, but then again, many things are not acknowledged and that's not necessarily bad Also the thing about Paul's death being just an excuse to give another wife to Rudeus... man... I loved it, I think there was a lot of greatness about Rudeus recognizing he failed once again, I would not say that the only purpose of these events was to give Rudeus a second wife........ BUT, the author definitely used these events to do so. If the rifujin really wanted to show us a "Rudeus fucked up" moment, he wouldn't need to put Rudeus in an extremely depressed in which you could argue that he was incapable of consenting (no matter what his body language told us, or that he was the one who initiate it in the novels, his mind was in a state that was impossible for him to consent, he was so far gone and malnourished that his mind was probably in a drugged-like state, hell you could even make the argument that he wanted sex as a survivar instinct), he was also probably going to die if something was not done. If this was a "this person fucked up" scenario then none of these would be there, just Rudeus in a sane state of mind breaking his vows. 30:11 well this is actually incorrect, Sylphie noticed how Roxy looked at Rudeus but was confused by it and when Rudeus revealed the Paul's news Sylphie thought Roxy was giving him the looks because of that. Then when Rudeus started the emergency family meeting 2 also known as "carnage" Sylphie was confused as fuck and that's why she took so long to say anything, by the time Norn finished her hypocritical religious bullshit, Sylphie already understood what was going on, including why Roxy gave Rudeus those looks

[@alphabeta6129]

Zenith was an S class adventurer, but she wasnt a combatant, but a medic. Its like saying hey Geese would be able to handle combat situations, he is S rank adventurer, while missing that he is a support unit, who supports the party through other means, and is shit at combat. Rudeus is a combatant, whose combat skills impressed Paul, and he was learning under a sword king. So obviously Paul would be more worried about non combatants in his family (Zenith a healer, Lillia an injured swordswoman, Aisha a kid with no combat knowledge) than the combatants in his family. Also Norn hypocritical, wheres the hypocrisy? Did she lecture Rudeus about polygamy and then went and had multiple partners? If thats happened in the story then I take my words back Religious banter? Where. Norn was outraged because she thought Sylphie was being wronged. When Sylphie stepped up and said she has no issue Norn backed down. Yes Norn didnt approve of the arrangement of polygamy because of her religious sentiments, but she just kept it to herself and outrage was not for that. She disapproved of it, but outrage was for the sake of Sylphie.

[@ShiNijuuAKL]

@@alphabeta6129 Why the hell are we making an extra focus on combat tho? What about... everything else? knowledge about the world, how to navigate getting lost, how to deal with people, how to get money if needed, how to use the guild, how to not get tricked by malicious fuckers, etc? It is a fact that Zenith should potentially be able to navigate the world better than a 10yo who just happens to be good at magic unless she is literally thrown in the middle of a horde of monsters. And btw, by this time Rudeus had yet to fight any monster, the only time Rudeus saw monsters was when Paul took him in one of his missions. Also, Zenith being a healer doesn't mean that she is absolutely and completely useless in anything else but healing, in the same way that magicians like Roxy do more than just throw magic, Zenith probably had a shit ton of experience keeping herself safe while the rest of the party deal with the monsters, as an S-Rank I doubt she was just open target that constantly had to keep one member of the party protecting her. Norn has double standards with Paul and Rudeus, she never had express any issues with Paul having 2 wives, this is hypocritical, and she knows it, that's why she shut up immediately when Sylphie mentioned it. "Norn was outraged because she thought Sylphie was being wronged" "When Sylphie stepped up and said she has no issue Norn backed down" This is not correct, when Sylphie stepped up Norn immediately yelled: “Why are you stopping her?!” Norn gasped. “Just let her go!” "Yes Norn didnt approve of the arrangement of polygamy because of her religious sentiments" This is also extreme BS, Norn is not even very religious, the things she learned about religion were in the latrea house and she just has bad memories of it. She turned more religious to cope with the fact that she might've sent Rudeus to his death. This is all in the chapter when Norn goes to the church on volume 11. She bringing up religion was clearly a "I can't put into words why this is wrong so let me just use Millis" "but outrage was for the sake of Sylphie" Given that Norn is not very religious, I do agree on this point, BUT, the arguments she used was about her being against polygamy, which again, is hypocritical as she would never say anything like that about Paul. If she kept her outrage to "hey bro, u got a pregnant wife here wtf" then it would've been fine.

[@alphabeta6129]

@@ShiNijuuAKL Because ability to fight and save your skin can offset the lack of experience, espescially in a teleportation incident, where you have no idea where you might end up. Ghislaine, Phillip and Hilda were teleported to same general location. Ghislaine survived as she had great combat capabilities, and it offseted her lack of knowledge of the region, while Phillip and Hilda who didnt have combat capabilities persihed. By the time Rudeus left Paul, Paul already considered him a skilled combatant, so normal monsters wont be an issue to him. I am not saying Zenith is useless, just that combat isnt her speciality and she is primararily a healer, a support class. She can fight, but she isnt a skilled fighter, like Eris can cast magic, but she isnt a skilled mage. Norn didnt express disapproval at Paul's polygamy, as Paul didnt marry a or sleep with a 3rd person when she was around. Rudeus on the other hand did so. Norn expressed disapproval when Rudeus married a second time, but it dissipated quickly and and was friendly with both Rudeus and Roxy. its just the start event she has an issue with, and kept the disapproval to herself, but then adjusted to it. If Paul had married a third person, maybe at that point she wouldve shown disapproval. She showed disapproval during trigger event, but after that event, she has no issue She disapproves of the action, and then accepts it. She didnt stop after Sylphie pointed out Paul, she states "I disapprove of what you've done, but that doesnt mean I hate you" Reread that part. Sylphie stops Roxy, Norn protests that why are you stopping her, Sylphie says "I never expressed any objections" after which Norn backs down. Sylphie shows she has no issues with it, after which Norn backs down, as her primary reason for outrage was Sylphie being wronged, and Sylphie just took away that reason by showing she has no issue. Even if she wasnt religious (I remember her becoming a devout follower, maybe after constantly visiting the church), she was taught that person should be monogamous thanks to latreas, and that became one of her beliefs as well, and thus disapproves of polygamy. Arguments were not about polygamy, points against polygamy was a supporting point, primary point was about how betrayed Sylphie might be feeling, and thus outrage stopped when Sylphie said she had no objections. Yes she didnt bring up pregnancy as its irrelevant. Doesnt matter if Sylphie was pregnant or not Rudeus cheating on her is wrong, she brought up what how Sylphie was feeling when he had gone on the journey, and you instead slept with another woman. "How can you say that, Do you know how she felt the entire time she was waiting for you to come home?" “Every day she said, ‘I hope Rudy is okay,’ and ‘I miss Rudy,’ and ‘I wonder if Rudy’s eating right now.’ Do you know how lonely she looked-how lonely she sounded the whole time?!”

[@ShiNijuuAKL]

@@alphabeta6129 " If Paul had married a third person, maybe at that point she wouldve shown disapproval" PFFFF HAAHAHHAAH 😂😂🤣 my god "Reread that part. Sylphie stops Roxy, Norn protests that why are you stopping her, Sylphie says "I never expressed any objections" after which Norn backs down" Ok now read what happens after that, Norn is still angry, still glaring clearly displeased at Rudeus, until her hypocrisy was pointed out by Sylphie.

[@TBoneTony]

It's kinda sad that people who think like this are often brainwashed by the public education system into thinking everything romantic is somehow a problem and that everything that a man tries to do in order to establish a relationship with a woman is often seen as predatory to the extreme. If society ever gets as bad as the low birthrate in Japan as it is slowly becoming, it isn't cartoons or escapist entertainment that is to blame here, it's what is being taught in schools today and parents who are too busy in their own personal lives to be bothered to look into the education that their kids are being taught.

[@blackwrath7997]

People forgetting Eris did return the favour by forcing her way before she went on the journey as well 😂

[@deathitself6985]

I like how Rudeus went from being completely selfish thinking with his dick pushing without a care for her feelings or anything after the party she put together for him and an expensive gift To then resisting actively because of thinking about how Eris must feel because she lost her family but then ultimately giving up because Eris does Eris things Sad that Eris felt guilty and insecure resulting in that letter and separation

[@porky1118]

18:45 I guess this person completely gets what she's doing, but does't understand that this is the purpose of the conversation. Everything they say represents the opinion of the author. Why would an author let somebody say something that's not true in this story? No, this show wants to persuade the viewer that Roxy is at fault here and Rudy didn't do anything wrong...

[@damiancrowley569]

I think the commenter is right, if you only look about as surface level as possible. The commenter apparently doesn't understand nuance, and wants none of her characters to be human. Even look at how they say they didn't like Paul, to a degree you're really not supposed to. Just like with Rudeus though, he grows on you. And in the same way, by the time you start to respect Paul to some degree, it's too late, just like how Rudy finally accepts him as his father, and before he can come to terms with that, Paul's gone. As far as Roxy being a predator, even not knowing that this was her fantasy, you know she didn't know it was her star pupil until she already had love in her eyes. She didn't raise Rudy to be her muff stuffer, she'd been looking for him and trying to help reunite his family, but never once wondered what the light meat smoked like. She was more into Paul and zenith the way she played shuffle-whore at their door when he was a kid. The truth is, this whole scenario plays like what would happen if any of it were real world shit, and this commenter clearly lives in a bubble where they smell their own farts

[@demoulius1529]

The wya this person writes I inmagine a massive bulging vein throbbing on their forehead while they furiously watch this show. Foaming at the mouth as they post their ragebait. I hate democracy, this person can vote...

[@TBoneTony]

Most of these bad takes are often from people who only read BS language and never went outside to talk to real people or lived a real life.

[@eldrath]

You are trying to reason with one of those woke crazy people they will never change their viewpoint all they will do is scream at you constantly saying your point doesnt' matter

[@deathitself6985]

When people start talking about how Pauls death or Rudeus cheating on a pregnant wife is somehow an excuse to have a harem 😂 Im sure there would be an easier more acceptable way to do that wtf

[@ShiNijuuAKL]

I mean... no? the point is that if you really want to not give an excuse for Rudeus behaviour then he would've just cheated normally, rifujin explicitly wrote an scenario where Rudeus was in a mental state where he could've possibly consent to anything, and in the LN Elinalise had to lie to him about Roxy being pregnant so that Rudeus wouldn't have a real choice on what to do. The scenario is clearly written with the intention of giving Rudeus a new wife without making him someone who wanted to cheat or wanted polygamy.

[@deathitself6985]

@@ShiNijuuAKL Well we can disagree because to me Rudeus was fully capable of refusing Roxy he not only refused her other suggestions but raised his voice at her and if we go by what Rifujin did Rudeus even initiated the sex unlike in the anime where i still think he could have turned her down Making him cheat on his pregnant wife regardless of the situation is way more unacceptable than not making a promise to a character like Sylphie that was already extremely open to the idea and then writing a scenario where Sylphie is aware of what is happening Even in the same scenario there are infinitely easier ways to make Rudeus have that same conflict you see there without cheating like Roxy actually making her feelings known and Rudeus not wanting her to be broken This whole idea that Rudeus because of grief couldnt consent to anything thus he didn't want to do it and he didn't want to be with Roxy is just an excuse of not wanting to admit that he didn't care enough

[@ShiNijuuAKL]

@@deathitself6985 yes if you think that starving Rudeus who is extremely depressed is in any mental state to be able to consent then yes we will have to disagree. I wonder if you think someone drugged is capable of consenting... "than not making a promise to a character like Sylphie that was already extremely open to the idea and then writing a scenario where Sylphie is aware of what is happening" Yeah because the point was for Rudeus to keep a morality similar to the real world where monogamy is the norm. The whole point is "look, Rudeus is not as bad as to let go of our concept of monogamy, but due to circumstances he ended up with multiple wives" does this make sense with how rifujin writes everything else? no, but that's clearly how this specific segment of the story was written. "Even in the same scenario there are infinitely easier ways to make Rudeus have that same conflict you see there without cheating like Roxy actually making her feelings known and Rudeus not wanting her to be broken" Except that in the LN rifujin needed Rudeus to bang Roxy so that Elinalise could use the "she got pregnant" lie to force Rudeus to marry Roxy. "This whole idea that Rudeus because of grief couldnt consent to anything thus he didn't want to do it and he didn't want to be with Roxy is just an excuse of not wanting to admit that he didn't care enough" You might have an extremely incorrect view of what "consent" is, and no, it is not just about "he wants to do it"

[@InfamyOrDeath-__-]

It’s really annoying how they keep putting “lol” at the end of every sentence.

[@JaydenBelieves]

I’m not saying I agree with the Karen, But you have to agree- Roxy is technically, by definition a predator, Rudeus was like 17 or something and she’s like 50💀

[@deathitself6985]

In Mushoku Tensei when you turn 15 you are considered an adult its mentioned in the first few episodes. Thats also why Eris told Rudeus to wait for 5 years when he was 10

[@Dsdb12]

If you’re not happy with the anime, why you keep watching it? I have dropped so many shows because I don’t find it enjoyable! But to watch two seasons to rant about it is dumb; and to say that you did it just because you want to be part of the conversation is pathetic! But I’m sure this person will comeback when season 3 drops

[@InnAyyur]

I don't get the point of making these videos if it's not just farming outrage... ? We all know that you don't bring real life logic and morality to a fantasy fictional story, therefore these kind of people who are OKEY with MAGIC but can't accept morality aspects for another world/reality are like the boomers who say video games promote violence!!!!! Stop feeding the troll attention, you're just making him bigger!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@liltacovato]

I’m early

[@PFletcherNWO]

NYAN!🙀

[@PFletcherNWO]

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[@РайанКупер-э4о]

We don't know this person gender. Let's don't try to assume it. English allows us to use singular they for this cases, let's use it. It's actually convenient when you become accustomed to it.

[@thelegendaryklobb2879]

Please. I can bet it's a they/them feminist woman with gender studies and a nose ring

[@porky1118]

I get your point. It's annoying when people use "he" or "she" for people with unknown gender. But using "they" is not convenient. I always have to switch between plural and singular, so I completely avoid it when wriing stories. For example this: "Alex *is* living in a village. They *are* outside a lot. When Alex visit*s* their friends, they like* to play with them" Sometimes it's "is", sometimes "are". Sometimes it's the verb + "s", sometimes it's only the verb.

[@РайанКупер-э4о]

@@porky1118 just use is and -s everywhere. It looks unusual at first, but makes total sense, since you are actually using singular they.

[@Re_V]

I remember the time when we would always use "He" for anyone with an unknown gender and no one would bat an eye. We should go back to those days. It's significantly less annoying than seeing people like you pop up out of nowhere to point out a non-issue.

[@porky1118]

@@РайанКупер-э4о I'd also prefer that, but I think I've never seen it like this before.

[@PFletcherNWO]

NYAN! NYAN!

[@PFletcherNWO]

NYAN!