Rare 426 Hemi Road Runner vs Olds 442 W-30 - 1/4 Mile Drag Race Video- Road Test TV ®

www.RoadTestTV.com 1/4 mile drag race between a very rare 1970 426 Hemi Road Runner and a rare 1972 Oldsmobile 442 W-30. The Road Runner is 1 of 287 built and the W-30 is 1 of 772.
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[@kevinharrissr5255]

Love how they jump straight into the races without all the unnecessary dialogue

[@rapidride2]

I like to hear the weight, horsepower and especially rear gear.

[@HiThere-sc2jr]

1971 Olds 442 4 speed. Spoiler on rear deck, lime green. I loved that car. Cruising listening to Grand Funk Railroad, James Gang, Allman Brothers. That WONDERFUL exhaust rumble. I STLL MISS IT!!!!!

[@timothythomas1737]

Megaphone exhausts

[@jasonmcmillan4373]

Wow the results were telling. All that monster torque from the W-30 resulting in better acceleration and a faster ET for the 442, but the Hemi with its legendary top end posting the faster trap speed at the end of the quarter. Both cars and their engines are legends.

[@MrVernonSmall]

I have and will continue to always love a 1972 Oldsmobile 442 / Cutlass S, the best !

[@tt600pch]

I have a clone with rear spoiler. Mine is orange with black stripes!

[@Joetrout]

I remember when everyone wanted a early 70’s cutlass.

[@AZBEEMR]

If you amend your text to 1970, I totally agree!

[@HiThere-sc2jr]

YUP. I HAD a 1971 442. LOVED IT!

[@dewfall56]

The Olds is a much better street car with tons of torque under 4000 rpm and a single big carb

[@Antiquetractorsetc]

I like both cars. These are from when cars were actually good looking

[@jamessawchuk5682]

Both of these cars are still better than my hippie aunts Prius.

[@vincegedeon6583]

😂

[@TheBigMclargehuge]

I got rear-ended by one of those they had to Prius apart

[@laynelair7537]

😁🤣🤣🤣

[@GreenTekHaus]

I saw a sticker on a Prius here in San Francisco that said: “ ‘Cool Prius!’ -said no one ever.”

[@cathysiders4758]

nice car

[@danmckay4174]

Thanks for blowing me away with that 442 RR race .I had forgotten the balls the old's had back then!

[@peterrivney552]

That was a poor Olds compared to a '70 GM cut the horsepower in '71 the '70 W-30 was the best.

[@siuandy1213]

it is nice to see these old cars stretch their legs on the track...

[@falcon6995]

But they ain't got no legs Lieutenant Dan 😄

[@gary9426]

Was surprised that the "72 "smog motor" 455 was able to take down the Hemi....was thinking the '70 W-30 would have been a better match up. Love both cars!

[@masonite1973]

Yeah, I don't think that was a stock 72 motor

[@weelgunny]

A Rochester Quadrajet? Whaaat!!? Got the job done...

[@vincewilliams5219]

The immense torque of the Oldsmobile.

[@traviskrause6614]

we had all these classics when i was in school! not all these fast and furious cars back in the good ol days!

[@joesurfer9754]

I had a 1968 dodge Coronet 440 2-door in school in the 1970's. My skinny 14 year old girlfriend loved doing burn outs in it. We had a hell of a time in that car. Probably the coolest car I have ever drove.

[@MegaRiffraff]

my high school car was 1969 Plymouth GTX 440-4 speed , gave $1200.00 back in 1974 .

[@toomanyhobbies2011]

You must have gone to a rich kids school. No one could afford either of these at our school Both of these cars were expensive class racers, designed for the drag strip.

[@LITTLE1994]

That was my parents' time. Wish I could go back to that.

[@fast03vette4me]

Can`t lose either way both rare and valuable, great to see them. RR looks super clean. W30 is a brute, Dr. Olds was radical.

[@joetallon4968]

When I was in high school, a friend of mine had a green with white strips 442 with a W30 package. Nothing could touch it.

[@GeorgiaBoy1961]

@ Joe Tallon: Damn, man, I am jealous! Back when I was in high school (I graduated in 1980), having an Olds Cutlass 4-4-2 W30 from 1970 or thereabouts was just it! Those cars just sounded mean. It's been years, but I can still hear and feel that deep rumble as one drives by and on down the street. The 1970s were absolute stump-pullers, with 500 pound-feet of torque.

[@joetallon4968]

@@GeorgiaBoy1961 the sad thing is. He was upset over a girl and driving on a stone road, and put the dang thing down over a hill into some trees. The car was totaled. But yes, I can still hear the sound that car made and remember the feeling of being pushed back in the seat when he got on it. Boy I miss those days!

[@clover831]

DAAAMMM!😲 I had no idea that olds was that fast.👍 Never judge a book by its cover...

[@jerome1194]

The Old 442 bolted from the start.The hemi was catching up,but too late.Great video!

[@mtsilvagt]

I'm always saddened,when I see the empty grandstands 😖

[@bobbydawg1652]

If the stats at the end were correct they had the times on the left of the screen for the olds and right for the mopar the right #s were higher! So the mopar edged it out

[@brandonj3684]

@@bobbydawg1652 442 finished at 12.24 mopar had 12.38, that old hemi finished faster which means he was catching up but he didn’t have enough track

[@michaelmoon6675]

I thought the hemi would catch it on the top end.latter

[@666hobart]

Yea was totally botched, and hemi dude was like "I ain't launching my rare shit (way more rare and worth way more than any 442..."

[@rayallen7016]

Those Roadrunners were my favorite of all time...my Dad bought me a used Thunderbird when I turned 16 ...took everything I could make to keep gas in that 390..nice ride but when I got my own full time job I bought a new 383 Roadrunner ; those were some GOOD times !

[@820hurleyj]

Yes! I've never been a Mopar guy, but I do respect them. Love that 442!

[@MrKruger88]

There's not much out there that can run down a 442 with a 455 under the hood. That engine is legendary!

[@larsonarsenal381]

Legendary yes, but both of these cars are FAR from stock.

[@slingshot9150]

In 1976 I had a 69 delta 88 2 door with a 455 rocket 400 hp with who knows how much torque . Never lost a race.There were a couple of built GM''s that may have taken me but they wouldn't try.

[@Hot80s]

just keep enough oil in the pan & youre golden

[@Dewitt-b8n]

here we go. a racer who never lost. Give me a fuckin brake. My caddy cts-v would smoke that 455 all day, but I have lost races. all of us have except you.

[@dannymyers5345]

mikey1974 hetfield on the street you probably could beat the 455. On the track . Nope that 455 out powers a ctsv. Traction control is a very good thing

[@dadyo63]

Luv to see th olds thrash the hemi off startline,all ways underestimated

[@joncouncil4454]

Lesson here? The most under appreciated division for muscle cars is NOT to be underestimated...Close race for sure, and the Hemi was working off the initial lead the Olds got out the hole. Just not enough time and/or horses to get it done. I'm glad to be getting back into Olds decades later after my father gave up out 68' A body like the one that won this race. Had the 350 Rocket in it. He traded for his neighbor's room divider cabinet back in 1977 cause it didn't run!! AArgh! If he only knew how much those cars would be worth today!!!

[@roberthaibi2304]

THESE GUYS run their cars like its no tomorrow thanks for sharing these iconic cars

[@dcg748]

That Olds sounds amazing

[@derrinpickett9948]

I've owned over 10 Oldsmobiles over the years. My favorite was a 1972 Cutlass Supreme I built right after high school. That car was sweet and man would it pull in the wool. I'd have 4-5 girls packed in there on Friday and Saturday night back when everybody was out cruising the strip.

[@tbone4646]

Well tuned and set up Olds W-30 wins every time.

[@josephdunkle1152]

Damn, that Olds and 455 torque! Beat a Hemi! Both awesome cars!

[@1997LT1Camaro]

Both amazing pieces of muscle history 😍

[@rongreen8485]

Fun watching the awesome old iron turning and burning. Love American v8 power!!!.

[@TommAceAZ]

Wow nice video not everyday u get to see this anymore. Win/loss either way both are winners in my book, not sure if many people know how hard it actually is to maintain a classic and get her track ready especially. You're talking 50-60 year old cars still burning rubber, awesome!

[@aschuppe]

Oldsmobile! Those were badass cars!

[@aninja7628]

I love the olds! The 425 version of that 455 is the one to get if you want a track runner

[@clodge5196]

455 rocket

[@timchurchvara6746]

455was the hemi killer

[@lf3566]

I had a 73 cutlass supreme with the 455 rocket and it had the turbo 400 hydrostatic transmission and it was amazing!

[@timchurchvara6746]

Brian medina are you on drugs!?!?!?!?! Seriously your hemi lost brother, you do not know how to read du massssss

[@dazezakza6937]

@Brian J. Medinayou must own a new Dodge or something with a hemi in it 🤣🤣 I used to beat those newham he's all the time with my Ford lightning and here you didn't realize that that's an Olds 442 it's got a 455 rocket and it did thing beat the crap out of that any that Emmy didn't stand a chance

[@dirkpittthegreat4559]

@@timchurchvara6746 😅😅🤣😀 good one

[@jimmyfleetwood1118]

Didn't surprise me. As an owner of several performance era Olds (including a W-30), they're hard to beat. The most fun is the 4dr--they laugh...then they cry.

[@michaelkilano8382]

The 72 olds was disqualified after the race when they found it had 12 to 1 compression. The rule state that you can increase your stock compression a point and half.

[@rickkowalske4116]

You were their

[@michaelkilano8382]

Yep. I own the Road Runner.

[@MrTi-ej4vr]

I was just a 8 year old kid when these cars were in their prime, what beautiful machines, even as I got a few years older, the times were the best, any of us that got to live those years saw some of the best times this earth will ever see, guys had a beef they would knuckle it out and shake hands after, the girls were as hot as the cars, only things we worried about were much simpler than the kids growing up today. Best days of my life. I cherish these memories. Muscle Cars, Beautiful Girls & Rock-n-Roll Forever!

[@stevenhearrell1564]

My dad bought a brand new, nocturne blue, ragtop 442, the first or second year of It's production. Mid 1960's, I believe. My sister, who was old enough to drive, would smoke the tires for my younger brother and I, if we begged hard enough. Good times.

[@mtwedt]

Judging by the start, I thought the Olds was going to win by a lot more that 12 hundredths.

[@keithlabarrie3098]

Mike the Hemi walk him down damn near won

[@stuartbuckley8720]

Torque works at the start, horsepower comes in later. Gearing and tire size factors in the equation. Peace! I love ALL OLDER MODELS AND MAKES OF CARS.

[@451dskots88]

The Hemi spun off the line. You can hear it. Would've been a different outcome had it hooked. Both awesome cars tho and nice to see some Olds action here.

[@joncouncil4454]

@@451dskots88 How to you get that? At that distance, and the millisecond you even hear the squeal, there's no way to tell who did it. We're at least 100 feet away from the staging area from that camera's POV.

[@451dskots88]

@@joncouncil4454 you can tell by the wonky way it launched plus you can hear it. If you saw that car launch in other videos, you'd understand what I'm talking about.

[@matrox]

The characteristics of the stock Hemi is it wasn't the quickest off the line but would usually catch and pass you half way down the track.

[@theflyingscotsman9902]

It tried but it was more like at the 1300 ft mark and not no half track !

[@iamnitrox]

It was more of a NASCAR motor. They weren't "stellar" on drag strips anyway, but if you run em up to 5000rpm, they'd sing

[@457rick]

@The Truth about Africa hurts Right man. Why do they copy it in top fuel and funny car regardless of brand then? They are all based on Chrysler hemis in the top classes

[@457rick]

@The Truth about Africa hurts So I'm guessing you believe top fuel runs v- tech engines?

[@dday9257]

The Truth about Africa hurts The Chrysler Hemi was and is the greatest drag racing engine ever invented by man.All you have to do is read up on drag racing history.

[@mattseegmiller62]

Good old Mid Michigan Motorplex in Stanton. I raced my red/black striped 1971 Cutlass 442 there when I was in high school and my Dad took his 2000 Pontiac Trans Am WS-6, LS1 engine, 6 speed car there. Man those were great times! Love GM muscle still to this day. It's in my blood when you're from Saginaw and your Dad, Grandpa and all your aunts/uncles worked & retired for GM when you were growing up.

[@halmatthews7990]

Loved both my 442s! Wish I knew then what I know now. Had a 65 and a 68 442. 65 was a true 442 68 had a automatic transmission both both of them would go down the road. Speeding tickets weren’t unusual for me!! Then I got married and needed a family car. Sold them both to make ends meet. Damn wish I could have kept them back in 1974

[@fast03vette4me]

My momma always said, "son you gotta watch out for that crazy Dr. Olds!! "

[@johncarlofernandez2698]

I love the Olds' paint matching wheels

[@SuperSnallygaster]

I don't think either one was stock. Great to see them running though!

[@markperry2827]

Absoloutely stock. The W/30 with slicks hits 11.2 all day long aka Judy Buresky 1970 NHRA champ in stock class.

[@philipgreen7445]

I agree 100%. By 1972 GM engines had been detuned to the point of boredom. Low compression, low lift short duration cams, smog equipment, retarded timing, high final ratios, etc. 13's were a pipe dream in stock form.

[@christianmotley262]

@@markperry2827 that would be stock appearing

[@loriryde5437]

They can blueprint the SS engines to factory specs I think in SS they allow some very moderate head porting, that is if these cars are actual SS class cars

[@thomhagan8297]

Head porting/matching, slightly hotter cams, fully blue printed engines go a long way. Just look at those cleeean re done engines theres no way those things are factory stock.

[@toddwilford4617]

One of my brother's friends had a 68 Hemi Roadrunner with an automatic it had a 323 rear gear slow as crap on a take-off that's probably what this Roadrunner had lot of top end though

[@Ballenxj]

Still get a kick out of this in Nov. 2020. Who else?

[@boostjunkie2320]

You guys are expecting these cars to run the same times they did from the 60s and 70s.....You have to remember that todays tires and track conditions have vastly improved so of course. they are going to run faster times

[@lukenellermoe6266]

Tires have improved also, stickier and less rolling resistance

[@christopheryasus3666]

Underrated point but an interesting true (cause it has2 be) point

[@boostjunkie2320]

@@christopheryasus3666 holy shit that was 5 year's ago

[@boostjunkie2320]

@The Truth about Africa hurts Just shut up dumb ass

[@boostjunkie2320]

@The Truth about Africa hurtsBlindly assume whatever you like sir. I was replacing piston rings on the side of the track when I was 14 year's old in between heats so we could make the next race. I forgot more then you will ever know son!!

[@johnconnors2386]

Those engines were cleaner than my diner table!

[@flyurway]

Interesting results. I'm a GM guy but '70 RR will always be one of my all time favorites!

[@flyurway]

***** Nope, for Mopars I liked the 68-70 Chargers, 70-73 Cuda's, but the one I always wanted was the 70 RR. I liked the grill, the tail lights and those cool little 1/4 panel scoops. Never liked any of the other ones as much. 70 Superbird...well, now if I had a million... :)

[@5807141]

***** Made to go fast in a straight line,and advertised as such

[@mocharger06]

+Robert LaPointe Mopar suspensions were superior to their GM and Ford counterparts. An adjustable pinion snubber and they were good for 10 second ETs. Compared to those slapper bars, that setup was very simple. Slap on a set of factory S/S springs on a Mopar, and you were set. And, no, the S/S springs were not made for NASCAR, they were made for drag racing.

[@BuzzLOLOL]

+Marlon Medina .. '60's Mopars with their unibodies were really light in the rear end and almost impossible to come off the line strong with on street tires... compared to the better balanced GM full frame/body cars... the peaky Mopar cams also made the engines hard to control off the line... they tended to either bog or rev too high and spin the tires... once underway, the Mopars revved higher/stronger, but you had to play catch up from the bad holeshot... this is also why the more controllable, torquier, lighter 390 HP 6-pack 440's blew away the heavy 'elephant motor' 425 HP Hemis in the 1/4...

[@flyurway]

+BuzzLOLOL Interesting take that I never thought of but it makes sense.

[@jameshorton7496]

Friend of mine bought a 70 Road Runner brand new, still has it to this day. Looks like the day he bought it.

[@stealzone6186]

Road Runner was catching up fast !

[@jimmywolfe7616]

Thank you for showing the E.T.

[@chrismc.4437]

This is not a major news flash. It's long been known a well tuned (see blueprinted) W-30 455 would stand shoulder to shoulder with a big Hemi. And you can see where the Hemi comes alive at the 150' and starts to walk past the Olds. Great cars and a cool race.

[@rickkowalske4116]

With 1400 cfm of dual quad it is choking until it gets a breath

[@steveminer8341]

@@rickkowalske4116 You had to change out a set of plugs every time you raced your hemi.

[@bradleblanc2336]

Walk past the Olds? I missed that part. It was a great race though!

[@wildestcowboy2668]

@@bradleblanc2336 LoL dude with the hemi let the Joe Biden loving gun banning clown get way ahead just to show how much a hemi can do plus the hemi had ALOT more MPH than the gm junk

[@swatbwana]

Where did it walk the olds , it started to catch but the olds won

[@hilljack2948]

Wow that was great ! Owned 2 plain Cutlass 71 and 72 . The 71 bought for $250 from man who thought it was junk cause it had surface rust on roof lol. Only 89k mi had stock exhaust the single with large muffler . Well after sanding 5 cans of Krylon flat black that fixed body , had stock hub caps wanted that very sleeper look . My late best friend Veteran Mike only 43 years old , victuim of agent orange . Helped me remove AC crap , new oil pump , timing gear , headers with turbo mufflers no tail pipes. Then he removed stock modulator , which stock had rev limiters replaced one from NAPA (continued)

[@darinmcdonnell712]

horsepower sells engines, torque wins races!

[@livewire2759]

Horsepower is a bull shit number. Torque is the better way to rate an engine's output. Oddly enough, the HEMI's torque was rated higher than the '72 olds 455s, and about the same as the pre-emissions 455s. The real difference is that the HEMIs don't make much torque until they get over 4,000 rpm while the 455s made more on the low end. If the HEMI driver's aren't afraid to rev them up like they were meant to be (like the guy in the video), they could blow away any olds on the top end. The HEMI's are so valuable that the owners don't want to push them to their limits anymore.

[@livewire2759]

That's a good point, John, but you're edging on the power vs grip argument. Gear reduction increases torque, but it also reduces speed. Simply installing lower gears in your car won't make you go faster. Lower gears help the tires grip better and accelerate faster, but you need higher gears to obtain winning speeds, which requires more torque output from the engine. The point is that the higher revving HEMI's can use lower gears for off the line performance, while still being able to run higher speeds at the top end, further proving that this Olds couldn't possibly be "pure" stock. With gears low enough to accelerate like that, there's no way that a stock, low revving 455 could reach that high speed without floating valves or throwing rods.

[@livewire2759]

John, I get your point, but I just don't agree, and I should apologise in advance for this long, rambling response. First of all, yes, bone stock performance is just a starting point for most racers, but this racing series is supposed to be "pure" stock. Of course that's not the real argument here though. I must argue that hp by itself is meaningless, and torque is not. For example, These old muscle car engines were usually rated around 350 to 450 horses, and around 350 to 500 ft. lbs of torque. Typical heavy duty truck "over the road" diesel engines are rated around 350 to 450 horses, but they put out 1,000 to 2,500 ft. lbs of torque. The definition of horsepower is the measurement of the amount work that can be done in a certain amount of time. Horsepower is bull shit because obviously those diesel engines are capable of doing far more work than the old muscle cars were capable of, but if you only consider the horsepower ratings, they would seem to be almost identical. Therefore, torque is a much better way to measure an engine's true output. I'll agree that you're correct about static torque compared to high rpm torque, but I argue that that's the reason why we measure torque throughout an engine's rpm range. We don't need to throw hp in there, because we can see the "torque at x rpm" on the chart. The only reason hp is still used is because for over a century laymen understood it better than torque because it gave them a way to compare an engine to actual horses, which most people were more familiar with at the time, and although by the time hp ratings were standardized 1 unit of hp wasn't really comparable to the amount of work that 1 horse could do, it has remained a more familiar rating system for most people, as hp numbers have always been listed in front of torque numbers, it's simply the first number they compare between engines and the torque is usually ignored. I also agree that low rpm torque is important to launching off the line, but it remains important throughout the run. The trans gears are set up to keep the engine rpm in it's high torque range, but not necessarily to coincide with it's peak hp range (why we shoot for a flat torque curve more than peak hp), and the only people that I have heard refer to low rpm horsepower as torque, didn't have any understanding of how the two are measured, typically stated: "torque is all in the low end, horsepower comes in at high speed". You and I both know that's bull shit, but that's not far off from your last statement.

[@livewire2759]

You make another good point, but it's a bit flawed. Rather than comparing by peak numbers, consider the entire torque and hp curves for both engines. The LT1 has a nice flat torque curve at high rpm, and the 400 climbs gradually to a spike at mid range, then drops like a rock. The hp curves on the other hand look very similar, until the 400 drops off at mid range along with the torque. The peak numbers don't tell the whole story. To make high hp, high rpm torque is essential. You can't make high rpm hp without high rpm torque to go with it. but since most people can't read a dyno chart, we must continue to compare by the peak numbers, so I'll give you that. You also make a good point about proper gearing, but it's also a bit flawed. I have a '66 chevy 1/2 ton with a 327 built to L79 specs (350hp/360ft.lbs.) and the original 4spd truck trans (sm420) with 3.73 final gears. I also have a '78 1/2 ton with a bone stock 350 that's rated at about the same torque and has a similar 4spd (sm465) and 3.73s as well. The '66 will pull a trailer just as well as the '78, but I have to rev it to the sky to do it because all the torque is in the top end. Needless to say, that's not very efficient, it uses a shit load of gas doing that. Of course an engine built to truck specs won't work well with a high perf. trans and low final gears, like you said it'll top out halfway down the track. But put some high gears in the rear and add a few more to the trans and you could make it accelerate better and have a much higher top speed. The problem then becomes shift times, and your right arm and left leg would get worn out. The point is that it's not so much the two engines that are different (LT1 vs the 400, or L79 vs the 350), it's also got a lot to do with what they are installed in and with, and that's all decided by where the torque is made within the rpm range of each engine. Which brings us back to the original point in this thread, "horsepower sells engines, torque wins races". When James Watt first tried to sell his new steam engine, he found that most people couldn't understand the concept of torque without exhaustive explanations. However, when he found a way to compare his engine to the main source of power at that time, his engines sold like hot cakes. Horsepower is a bull shit measurement designed to sell engines to people who don't understand engines by giving them something to compare to: a fucking horse.

[@darinmcdonnell712]

Live Wire if the hemi was such a good design why can't are the faster than all the other manufacturers??? with all the equipment they come with duel four barrel carbs, big valves , high compression and they on park with every other manufacturer??? to say that it could beat any olds on the top end is ridiculous. how did all that carbs, big valves, high compression workout against the gs club of America??? lol. don't get me wrong I like the hemi cars and the are a great looking motor BUT they are no better then any other manufacturers motors. stop coming up with excuses!!! THE HEMI LOST!!!!!! you must have voted for Hillary???? lol

[@toomanyhobbies2011]

Always the best drag racing videos!

[@wadedavis7241]

Didn’t see that coming. A 455 Olds in stock trim ran like 13.80’s and the Hemi B-bodies world usually run 13.50’s with the right gears. I remember reading a review where they ran a Hemi Road Runner against a 440+6 Road Runner and the 440+6 would usually beat it off the line and the Hemi would catch it mid track and pass at the end so it didn’t surprise me to see the Olds pull ahead. In typical Hemi fashion, it was catching it at the end though, it just wasn’t enough.

[@E1N9A8N0DA]

Nice analysis 🤝 Power only makes a difference usually past the 100 mph range. Below that similar engines tend to have a quicker start (340s and Camaros can beat more powerful cars), and can stay ahead depending on the car it runs against. Experts said the Six-Pack/440-6 had equal performance compared to the Hemi for half the price, and were the best choice for drag racing. The fastest Mopars were Six-Pack powered. Hemis on the other hand were unbeatable on the track. On this case, the key factor was probably the weight of the cars. Mopars were elephants, in terms of power output, but also in terms of mass. A Challenger HEMI could easily weigh over 4000 lbs with driver. Crazy for an E-Body !! 😱

[@johnfloyd838]

I owned a 71 old's Cutlass 442 when I was younger and I loved it very much it had a 455 rocket with 202 fuelly heads a crane cam I installed in it with a Edelbrock manifold and a 750 Holley carb and a stall speed converter in it with a B&M shift kit with a 400 turbo transmission and a 411 posi rear , and alot of other goodies and it ran low 12's at atco speedway in Atco new jersey back in the mid 80's and I truly appreciate your video that brought back a lot of great memories from my past , thanks again 😎👍

[@markbrook5355]

That 442 all day!!!! Oldsmobiles don't get the respect they deserve but this 442 looks and is fast

[@jimsteele2072]

That 455 was a Beast!

[@markperry2827]

Just a w/30. They were hitting 11.2 in stock A class NHRA in 1970. Someone can correct me but if that is a stock 72 W/30 it is 8.5:1 compression.......running 12:2x

[@joshmeselfhighup1603]

Those were the days style n horsepower

[@lenyo123]

I was at Stanton taking pictures at the line for every race that day. The highlight of the weekend was watching Ted Harbit in his bone stock Supercharged Studebaker Super Lark blowing the doors off of a Hemi. Sorry Mopar guys but it wasn't even close/.

[@rme5596]

Michael Glock you’re high.

[@chrismc.4437]

Mike while that very well may be the case. It's obvious you were among the bystanders who looked on at the action. I love how morons like yourself get such a giggle out of attempting to discredit or dilute the long standing dominance of Mopar and the 426 Hemi in motorsports. It's no big deal to hear the Hemi was edged out by another brand that was running hard. In the end when you look at the records, collectively Chrysler's Hemi was what set the standard in american automotive performance. And that it started in 1955. The Hemi drove other engineers to develop great motors like the L88 427, a Ford Cammer and the W30 Olds.

[@paulciprus9582]

My dad ordered a 70 Olds 442 W30 in 69…Matador red with poverty caps..as he said “ it didn’t go any faster with the fancy rims..W27 rear end..373 gear..brought it home 12/3/69.. day before my B-day…what a car..I was 7 yrs old..but knew what those cars were all about at that age…😀

[@e.g.flores2819]

I never did race a Olds, but i used to eat the Hmi Road Runners with a Grand Prix SJ 455

[@alzaidi7739]

That's nothing. I beat a RR with my Saab when he spun in the sand.

[@johnmitchell5264]

@@alzaidi7739 that's nothing, I outran a 1970 SS 396 Chevelle with my 1967 VW Bug. *I had to take a shortcut through a pasture but I still beat him to the finish line.*

[@SpontaneousSubstance.]

Damn that Hemi was approaching rapidly.

[@garymycoswilliams]

My very favoritest uncle ( ;-) had a 1971 Roadrunner w/ 426 Hemi, 2x4 bbl carb. For a young gaffer just coming into my teens then, and living in a small town where everyone would know within hours if anybody raised the shackles on their Duster (or whatever) a notch, getting "Unca Ted" to drop me off at the high-school in the Roadrunner, with that "meep meep" roadrunner-sounding horn bringing attention to the hide-away, hydraulically raised hood-scoop with the letters HEMI on it..... well... it can still move this now-55 yr old letch into thinking delinquent thoughts ;-)

[@chrismc.4437]

Wow Gary that's quite a trip down memory lane. Thanks for sharing the nostalgic drenched tale of your youth. It warms all who read it!!!

[@joebuzz2758]

Im an olds guy. I had a 1970 w-30 442. I never raced a hemi, but did race many other top muscle machines. Thought the hemi would do better.....

[@wayneshearon3203]

They don't call the olds and Buick 455's Hemi eaters for nothing😂

[@GearheadExplorer85]

Dont forget about the Pontiacs

[@markdubois4882]

Not when the HEMI is in a Dart!

[@martyharless5097]

@@markdubois4882 if you want to compare apples to apples then put any of the GM 455's in a Nova. Hemi darts are badass but when put up against the 455 in a Nova they can easily be beaten.

[@markdubois4882]

@@martyharless5097 The Hemi Dart is a bonafide 10 second car right out of the box. Btw, the 426 Hemi in the dart is not the same as the one in the CUDA. It's much hotter. The 455 Buick is giving up 65 HP to the 426. Its max torque comes up at 2800 instead of 4000 like the 426. The 426 HEMI in the 68 Dart has 2 770cfm four barrel carbs on a mag intake instead of 2 600 carbs. Instead of 10.25:1 compression, the Hemi Darts got 12.5:1 and so on This motor stock in the Dart dymoes at 609 HP So yeah....nice try

[@martyharless5097]

@@markdubois4882 OK fanboy

[@knightnrmer]

Had multiple gtx's and roadrunners back in the day . Then I got a 340 Demon ... Demon would launch off the line . Loved it . The others once they got going .... Loved those too .

[@JohnDoe-be8us]

I love olds!

[@GooglFascists]

Steven Keyser Me too, they were engineered so well it was pure pleasure to work on 'em. My brother and I always said they were built the way we'd build them if we owned the factory.

[@patrickmcauliffe755]

I have a 1972 Olds Cutlass convertible and will never sell it.

[@travelinman072]

Looked like a holeshot win to me. Watching people race there classis street cars is the best. I hate to see those cars in someone's garage that rarely see the light of day.

[@spencerboaz2385]

Never could get my 69 GTX out of the hole but was still the fastest car I have ever had .

[@theflyingscotsman9902]

Too heavy ! Physics is the bottom line !

[@joltinjack]

Two quads vs. one. Yes, the Hemi was best at higher RPM's - a true top end car as seen here catching up at the end. It would have been more interesting to me to see the same race, but with a 440 six-pack. The 440 had a broad RPM band. However, that Olds with just one 4-bbl carburetor was a real tiger.

[@hotrodtrucker88]

love those 442''''s

[@jamesgodar1428]

442

[@leonardbreau8928]

Still recall when a big Olds 98 four door beat an SS 396 Chevelle at a drag race I was at years ago. The heavy Olds launched off the start while the Chevelle was just spinning his tires - by the time the Chevelle got some traction the Olds was too far ahead of him to catch up.

[@danielhiggins8798]

To be fair, the Roadrunner appears to be stock, while the 442 has had a few modifications. The 455 didn't idle like that in '72 and It had a compression ratio of around 8:1.

[@livewire2759]

That's right Dan, there's no way a stock '72 ran like that. The olds engine may be stock, but it must have pre-71 stock parts (high compression, big cam), not stock '72 parts.

[@EGGINFOOLS]

Didn't the video say it was built to spec for its time?

[@SteveHolsten]

Did the factory blueprint make some difference too?

[@nickajk1]

you are wrong btw it is a 1970 w30 car it had a great idle out the back with the trumpet dual exhaust these cars had tremendous torque and could and did roast tires daily if they had better tires there was no stopping dr olds

[@robintaylor1490]

@@nickajk1 actually it was a 71 W30 442, I had a 70 and the taillights are all wrong. 70 had 2 slits up and down on both sides for taillights. Those times for both cars are not factory times add a second to each and it would be a lot closer.

[@donjennings9034]

Man that RR made up some ground at the end. A little longer race and that Mopar would be long gone.

[@CORVAIRWILD]

I was just reading a road test back from 1969 of a Hemi versus a 440 Magnum 4 Barrel. The Hemi needs at least 4:10 gears, if not 456s. And it's got way too much carburetion and porting to even light up nine inch slicks off the line according to thwe period road test. Most hemis came with 354 gears, twitch or a joke, if it was my two cars, I'd set them up as they need to be set up, and then it's a fair test. But off the showroom floor, nothing can keep up with a Hemi once it starts to breath. Ironically, olds had the worst exhaust manifolds, so it needs headers, which means it's not stock, then it has to be rejeted, and the 72 didn't have the rumpa cam anymore because of low compression etc etc. But still fun to watch. Olds was ready to introduce a double overhead cam 455 for 1970, it's on the cover of Hot Rod Magazine of the day, and Pontiac had a Hemi head that looked very similar to the Chrysler. Yep Pontiac Hemi, they made six of them. I saw one of them at a Pontiac show in Phoenix 3 years ago

[@steveminer8341]

@CORVAIRWILD OOPS! I beg to differ. In street trim, the Hemi's couldn't touch the L88 Corvette or the LS6 Chevelles. They also got beat by the Buick GSX Stage 1's. Google the info for yourself. I personally had a couple buddies, one had a 1967 Hemi Coronet, the other had a little 327 in a 67 Camaro. With a little tinkering, the Camaro always out ran the Hemi. Sorry to burst your bubble. LOL

[@markdubois4882]

@@steveminer8341 Darts with the 383 gave LS6 Chevelles headaches...the 440 Darts in 69 gave the L88 headaches...The 68 Hemi Darts .....it took 50 years for another car to compare it to (Challenger SRT Demon)

[@steveminer8341]

@@markdubois4882 LMFAO! Just google the fastest muscle cars back at that time. I rest my case.

[@markdubois4882]

@@steveminer8341 why don't you....you're probably looking at the 70s when the 3 cars I mentioned are from the 60s.

[@markdubois4882]

Not talking top speed.....1/4 mile times. For the record, the Hemi Dart was a 10.25 second car right out of the box. A good set of slicks back in 68 would drop that time into the mid 9 second range.

[@raymonddowd3245]

I had a 1969 hemi roadrunner i bulit from ground up. It was fast on strip low 12's and speed around 135 to 140. It was a every day driver (on dry roads) in winter it lived in garage.

[@rickkowalske4116]

Ahh 135 140 is a low 11 high10 sec quarter car

[@gtracer6629]

Is it my eyes or does the Plymouth have hubcaps? Back in the day, they would never let you run with them.

[@davidmcknight4525]

Just, beautiful cars, from a more simple time. Yes, today you can buy great cars right from the dealership lot, however, the fact that these classics are so coveted says it all.

[@mercman2.5]

Hemi might not be good for the quick kick but, great for the long pull.

[@LORISSABOOBMAN]

Over carbed perhaps 2x4bbl a single Holley 4 will suffice & may help

[@elyaqui5324]

"We're talking some fuckin💪🏽Muscle"

[@MrUltraworld]

Now that's a drag race! I had a '70 442. What that car lacked in HP, it more than made it up in torque (at least 500 ft/lbs) and a willingness to rev. It was comfortable to drive too.

[@19crazydude]

the hemi had more than 500. they were a factory detuned drag racing SOB. as soon as that hemi hit high rpm's then whatever was trying to race them was gonna see tail lights the rest of the way home

[@1400IntruderVS]

Much like todays Hemi the engines of yore were not nearly as menacing on the streets as they were on a NASCAR track or in full blown alcohol burning drag cars. The 440 was a better boulevard bandit but like any other great engine in a great car. Some times you loose. Oldsmobiles were masterful revving lite weight big blocks that had a ridiculously broad torque band that picked up fast and didn't drop off early. Not as well known they can be sneaky.

[@19crazydude]

1400IntruderVS yes that is all very true but in the high top end the hemi glistened with loads of power and were able to push the cars faster then the rest of the muscle car pack

[@MrUltraworld]

I've driven two original Hemi cars with fresh engines, one was a Superbird. I came away underwhelmed both times. If you do the heads & add a cam, fuel & spark they really come alive. But really no different than giving any big block of the day the same treatment. Just look at these video's.

[@19crazydude]

George Jetson my dad drove a stock 440 chally back in the day with a 4 speed. all it had was a set of open headers and when he pulled out he stomped it and he said it was like the was was lifted on dollies cuz it slid about like he was doing donuts on ice only it was a burnout. the 426 was more powerful then the 440 so yea. in the video did you see how fast the hemi caught up to the olds though?

[@robertmceuen3630]

Had a '67 442 my dad bought brand new. Gave it to me for HS graduation. Was I ever a dumb ass kid. That car was a beast.

[@karlmawby2921]

Back when cars had Style n Horsepower....

[@donshotrodgarage1717]

Does that thing for a "Hemi" Dam that W30 runs strong👍

[@C8Z51Scott]

Beautiful cars!!

[@srt8rocketship241]

I would be satisfied with either of those gems.

[@dennismoore1116]

I've owned one of the Olds. No way was that stock for a 1972. Maybe for 1970. Modern tires and track aren't enough. The Olds was modified.

[@joebuzz2758]

Absolutely! Just what I thought. I had a 1970 442 w-30. And that was the best 455 made. After 70 the compression, horsepower and tourqe dropped a lot. I was sure the hemi would dust it. Definitely not stock.

[@andromedagalaxy5339]

a 410 gear in the rear end will do the trick for the olds.

[@chrismc.4437]

Geez Dennis, can't fool you! Both of those cars are modified.

[@Kevin-dx6co]

It's not the first time I've seen a W-30 destroy a Hemi...the GM 455 4bbl =Badass !!

[@toomanyhobbies2011]

The 426 Hemi is all about top end, high rpm power. The 455 W30 was a low-end, low rpm torque engine. Neither of these cars got decent traction off the line, so it's impressive they could each turn low 12s.

[@GrantOakes]

Before the video even started I figured the 442 would pull out of the hole faster than the Hemi, because of the added torgue. The Hemi almost caught it at the end.

[@bryandouglass9997]

The 70 model year 442 was even more potent...

[@USCtrojanFootball1]

Love the Old's 442 and the Buick GS. The gentleman muscle cars.

[@GeorgiaBoy1961]

Those old Buick Grand Sport GS455 Stage IIs were monsters.... 510 pound-feet of torque, the most twist produced of any GM big-block at the time.

[@rayhack4255]

Neither one of these cars is stock. A stock hemi ran at best back in the day was 13:46.

[@donconry7894]

Sweet rides both of them

[@travislivengood2744]

for those crying that the Hemi lost, remember this. on the street back in the day, GS455 Skylarks, W30s, 440 6pack cars and ram air Ponchos would routinely hurt Hemi feelings. Hemis were hard to tune, hard to launch and hard to live with. it was a neutered race motor and out of its element. yes they made power, but power it useless if it can't be put down. Olds motors were low revvers and torque monsters. same with all the motors that squared off against the Hemi and won.

[@Bronywithguns870]

Hemis are boat anchors anyways. like you said Hemis are a pain to tune and use.

[@thekingsservant1104]

Yeah uh, go tell the big boys that a Hemi is a boat anchor or go ask the old time NASCAR guys why the Hemi was banned from racing. The Hemi is and always will be a legend. As far as the Hemi loss. The 455 has what most engines don't. Tire shredding low and mid range torque. The Hemi was trying to run the 442 down and would have in the long run but in the quarter, not a chance. If you can get it to hook then high torque will always win over high HP in a drag race and this is an example of that.

[@Bronywithguns870]

I meant that theyre a pain to tune and use in a street application. I know that Hemis really shine when racing like how NASCAR does. I knew that NASCAR banned hemis from the track cause theyd destroy the competition. look at the Daytona and Superbirds. a car as aerodynamic as those with a hemi? nope id rather not race against them thank you

[@thekingsservant1104]

Wasn't big HP that beat the Hemi, it's was light weight and a little HP.

[@DeanMk1]

Bob - the power-to-weight ratio for an L-79 powered Nova would be 8:1 (actually, a little more than..). 8+ HP for every pound of weight.

[@patrickcrabtree3162]

RR heavy. Still badass and Olds 442 freaking frame twister

[@jamesmackinlay4477]

I have owned a few of those duel quad hemis the main problem was bogging off the line if you notice the MPH was higher on the hemi and it was catching the olds quick

[@lesizmor9079]

Jamesyouskippedthepuntuationandgrammarsegmentofschool

[@sharp3552]

Russel Green...You mean punctuation, looks like you skipped the spelling segment in school!!! 🤢🤮🙄

[@theflyingscotsman9902]

If you had a hemi and I had a hemi and you added them together , you'd get a 455 olds . 😛

[@martyharless5097]

@@lesizmor9079 I love it when assholes like you criticize the grammar of others while you are ignorant of it yourself. You're a fucking idiot and a grammar bitch! Apparently you're too stupid to realize the original commenter was using speech to text and didn't bother verbalizing the punctuation. Who gives a fuck? Oh yeah, grammar bitches like you.

[@wildestcowboy2668]

@@martyharless5097 I'm glad you told that Joe Biden loving gun banning clown off.

[@jerryumfress9030]

Ah... these are REAL muscle cars. I've had a 69 Mustang Mach 1, 351 Windsor, 68 Dodge Charger 440 Magnum, 70 Dodge Challenger 383 Magnum. This was back in the 60s and 70s, when I was young and stupid.. now I'm old...I'm still working on the stupid part. These cars racing are big boy cars for big boys. I love to see the younger folks restoring these cars 😎

[@roadtesttv]

Lol 👍 Thanks for watching !!