Rare Dumble Resurfaces after 40 YEARS

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@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
TABLE OF CONTENTS 00:00 Introducing Dumble Overdrive Special NO.0022 01:10 Our Objective/Gear Used 02:48 Overdrive Channel (Les Paul) 04:35 Clean Channel (Strat) 06:41 Clean Channel (Telecaster) 08:03 Boosting into the Overdrive Channel (Les Paul) 09:31 Sustain, Clarity, Compression 10:45 More Boosted Overdrive Tones! 12:56 Final Thoughts on Overdrive Special No.0022 14:05 Outro Jam
@GabrielBergman95
@GabrielBergman95 Жыл бұрын
Man, this was an incredible day! Thanks again for the invite Mason! Glad everyone is enjoying the video!!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
You killed it! Great job Gabe!
@jannoqueyquep4615
@jannoqueyquep4615 Жыл бұрын
Tasty playing Gabe!
@GabrielBergman95
@GabrielBergman95 Жыл бұрын
@@jannoqueyquep4615 Thanks so much! Lots of practicing leading up to this video. I really wanted to make sure the playing would help accentuate the amp!
@Souldoubtrocks
@Souldoubtrocks Жыл бұрын
Is this herrings amp?
@jordan3119
@jordan3119 Жыл бұрын
Can you link me to the exact model of your LP? I need one now! Beautiful!
@philipasselin5295
@philipasselin5295 Жыл бұрын
You guys have been on an absolute tear with killer videos, lately! I really appreciate the content, thank you!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks so much!
@dbob3405
@dbob3405 Жыл бұрын
Several decades ago, I purchased a Silvertone guitar with the case-this happened to be one of the Silvertone cases that had a built-in amplifier. Mine was not just any Silvertone case/amp. My Silvertone case/amp had been modded by Alexander Dumble’s lesser known distant cousin, Darius Dumble. Rather than compete with Alexander, Darius had concentrated his efforts solely on the Silvertone cases with built-in amps. By limiting what he would mod, he became an absolute genius at modding the Silvertone amps. Due to the limited number of Silvertone amp/cases sold and the painful fact that many ended up at the garbage dump, Darius Dumbles creations are extremely rare and the market for his amps is even rarer. Darius also was very idiosyncratic in his ways and would only mod Silvertone amps to match the actual Silvertone guitar that was sold with the amp. Once a potential client tried to trick Darius into modding an amp to a guitar other than the Silvertone guitar sold with the amp. The potential client substituted an identical model Silvertone guitar with identical lipstick pickups for the original. It is said that Darius recognized the ruse immediately by ear and came close to suing the customer for fraud. It took a phone call from a famous guitarist, who like Darius, was an aficionado of the Silvertone and was also a loyal Darius client to convince Darius to back off. Because Darius had chosen such a limited medium in which to exercise his talents, he was often without work and broke though a complete Darius mod often pushed 7 figures. Darius spent most of the money he earned in what was usually a fruitless search for the few existing matched pairs of Silvertone guitars and amp/cases available. Like Ahab searching for Moby Dick, Darius’ fanatical searching and his obsession with perfection eventually drove Darius to the brink of insanity. He spent his last years in an alcoholic stupor obsessively playing through the 1962 edition of the Mel Bay “Fun with Guitar” beginners handbook (Darius believed that the only way to accurately put one of his modded Silvertone amp/cases through its paces was to play the 1963 Mel Bay “Fun with Guitar” versions of Buffalo Gals and The Blue Tail Fly). No one knows what eventually happened to Darius. In the fall of 1992, Darius disappeared leaving no note, body or message of any type. Darius had no real friends and no one can point to an actual date when he supposedly disappeared. A potential client attempting to contact Darius for a mod, eventually contacted the authorities. After several months of looking, Darius was declared dead. I have been offered a small fortune for my modded Silvertone amp/case and matching guitar but consider them priceless and not for sale. I was once offered a straight up trade for one of Alexander’s creations (and while they are amazing amps), I refused to part with my Darius Silvertone amp/case. I realize this video was about Alexander and his magical irreplaceable amps but felt it important to also give a nod to Darius and his amazing, if lesser known, obsessions.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
Interesting story!
@lastofthe4horsemen279
@lastofthe4horsemen279 Жыл бұрын
Oh my friend thank you for sharing this incredible tale .
@brentsalassi5245
@brentsalassi5245 Жыл бұрын
Lol!
@anthonypanneton923
@anthonypanneton923 Жыл бұрын
Amazing! thanks for the story.
@JS-nf1sn
@JS-nf1sn Жыл бұрын
I had that happen to me too!
@voyxu143
@voyxu143 Жыл бұрын
So many Dumble type amps/clones/copies that you can achieve this tone relatively easily.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
You can get in the ballpark, but not exact to any one Dumble.
@voyxu143
@voyxu143 Жыл бұрын
@@VertexEffectsInc If you put 10 Dumble clones in a room with a real Dumble I would lay odds even the best Dumble expert couldn't pick out the Dumble.
@bobygap
@bobygap Жыл бұрын
@@voyxu143 That's a great challenge for a new episode !
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
@@voyxu143 if they're listening to recordings, that's true we can even prove that out with Dumble pedals and we have. Playing them there will be differences, some that might be more perceptible.
@danharris2253
@danharris2253 Жыл бұрын
@voyxu143 I was thinking same thing. Very cool amp and history, but I kept thinking, sounds like a Hot Rod Deluxe and maybe a pedal. 😂 I think these are a lot like the original Klon, perception. I’d sell it in a heartbeat and buy a Lambo and a Two Rock stack. 😂
@lastofthe4horsemen279
@lastofthe4horsemen279 Жыл бұрын
Thanks guys .Great classy tour of this work of art.Some sharp playing Gabe.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!!!
@mattcacioppo2502
@mattcacioppo2502 Жыл бұрын
Sounds amazing. Love the history and mystique associated with these amplifiers. Thanks for sharing! Cheers!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@zacharyoliver1325
@zacharyoliver1325 Жыл бұрын
What a treat. Thank you!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@loulagro2315
@loulagro2315 Жыл бұрын
The thing that gets me right off with Dumbles or really good Dumble clones is that "vocal" quality about the tone, and the dead quiet purity and harmonic richness of the sustainnnnnn. I have a Sebago Sound DT25, (basically an OD special) and it just absolutely sings in that vocal way. Not the best master to be honest, ... the amp has to be opened up a little to bloom, and when you do it's still well below most gig volumes, yet the sustain will drift into the most beautiful hint of harmonic feedback. It's crazy, no other amp circuit I've played does that so pure and no noise....... just that sweet voice like tone on a background of dead quiet. What a circuit!
@Diax1324
@Diax1324 Жыл бұрын
I have a buddy with a Two Rock TS1 and he plays it at 6 on the MV at gigs. It's actually not that loud when running through a 1x12.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
A good Dumble is special. There are also some quality clones out there as well.
@RickMcCargar
@RickMcCargar Жыл бұрын
No magical gear, only magical players. This sounds good on this video, it doesn't sound otherworldly, nor even all that special. If you're not a great guitarist, this isn't going to help much.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't that be true of any amp? E.g. if you're not a great guitar this isn't going to help much.
@RickMcCargar
@RickMcCargar Жыл бұрын
@@VertexEffectsInc sure..and in this video, the guy isn't great, so it sounds average.
@andyheater
@andyheater 9 ай бұрын
I saw this came from Dennis Herring's collection at Techno Empire. I managed to grab his seafoam green 1983 Valley Arts Strat with early 1960s gibson patent number pickups
@craigwubben6973
@craigwubben6973 Жыл бұрын
Sounds so good. Nice surprise to see a K Line guitar in the video. Thanks for that too!
@GabrielBergman95
@GabrielBergman95 Жыл бұрын
Yes!! we wanted to have a variety of guitars!
@craigwubben6973
@craigwubben6973 Жыл бұрын
@@GabrielBergman95 I have an early tele model of his. He grew up in an auto body shop. The finishes and paint are second to none. Now he's winding his own pickups and building amps too. Good time to be alive as a guitar player!!
@hugomartinho2555
@hugomartinho2555 Жыл бұрын
The amp is great, but lets just lay out the simple truth: Robben will blow your mind... with any amp. Cheers! PS: Mason, there's an angry mob waiting for a triple preamp with the ultraphonic and the Supreme together :D
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
Agreed, but the video doesn't dispute that about Robben. I know, I just got a call about it the other day...it'll be here soon enough :)
@anthonypanneton923
@anthonypanneton923 Жыл бұрын
you're right. Robben is just an amazing artist. with ANY guitar or amp.
@billnelson5279
@billnelson5279 Жыл бұрын
Doubling down on the triple preamp. I have the sss srv, but I'll buy a triple if you make it. Especially if you Keep it black and white
@zekkazecca
@zekkazecca Жыл бұрын
Yes, but this amp blowed the mind of Robben
@ChannelForty2
@ChannelForty2 9 ай бұрын
Man that eould be a dream come true!! I envy you guys! Thanks for sharing this moment with us!
@danaolsen9603
@danaolsen9603 Жыл бұрын
Sounds great - excellent playing too, Gabe - very nice, I'll take it!
@GabrielBergman95
@GabrielBergman95 Жыл бұрын
thanks man!!
@RatedRRoque
@RatedRRoque Жыл бұрын
Mason nowadays is more of "the Dumble Guy" than the "the Rig Doctor"
@PonyPharm
@PonyPharm 7 ай бұрын
I’m not that impressed with the clean sound but that overdrive and the sustain is amazing! This amp really shines with the gain up and especially with the Les Paul. 👏👏
@DennyBob521
@DennyBob521 5 ай бұрын
Dumble, Soldano, Mesa - all have the forward sound - great sound! I play a Suhr Bella which I read is a Suhr interpretation of a Dumble modified Bandmaster. It has that same forward, clean, articulate sound.
@Starch1b2c3d4a
@Starch1b2c3d4a Жыл бұрын
Really nice compression
@MrKaufmana1
@MrKaufmana1 Жыл бұрын
I like that Strat. I see you put a bird on it. - Beyond that, I really enjoy this channel and the history and wisdom you share Mason. Thanks for all you do
@cheintz44
@cheintz44 Жыл бұрын
Birds aren't real
@mattriley3550
@mattriley3550 Жыл бұрын
We put birds on things.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
That Strat belongs to Mejia, not mine.
@mattriley3550
@mattriley3550 Жыл бұрын
@@VertexEffectsInc I'd bet Bryce Shivers and Lisa Eversman had a hand in putting that bird on it.
@greigclement9081
@greigclement9081 Жыл бұрын
Should've dressed up as Indiana Jones for an intro bit :) well done on finding/borrowing this legendary gear !
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@Slovy_
@Slovy_ Жыл бұрын
I’m a tech and it’s finally nice to see a Strat with the pickups at the right height. They have to be almost flat on the pick guard
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
Yes, let the amp do the work!
@joshuajkoplin
@joshuajkoplin Жыл бұрын
That’s how I set them too. My neck pickup is about 7.5 mm away from the strings.
@j.alexandermyersen1176
@j.alexandermyersen1176 11 ай бұрын
Amen, brother.
@adamcoe
@adamcoe 10 ай бұрын
well they don't "have" to be anything, now do they. fella name of james marshall hendrix used a somewhat non-standard pickup height and he sounded just dandy. the right height (or the right strings, or the right pick, or the right pickups) is the one that produces the sound you want. there's no right or wrong way to set up any guitar.
@bostonbesteats364
@bostonbesteats364 Жыл бұрын
The original owner of Dumble 22 actually described this amp in a video 2 months ago on the Techno Empire channel
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
And???
@bostonbesteats364
@bostonbesteats364 Жыл бұрын
@@VertexEffectsInc If you really must know, its a much better video than yours
@FendCore
@FendCore Жыл бұрын
And thank you for this precious information!
@fostexfan160
@fostexfan160 Жыл бұрын
@@bostonbesteats364 Lol.......LMAO, their ego's deflated with that comment
@elginphelps5291
@elginphelps5291 Жыл бұрын
My brother has a 100 watt Dumble power amp to drive a Leslie.Howard put military grade horns in the Leslie to handle the power. I met Howard when I was 12. He sold my big brother a Gibson 330, the first electric I ever played.
@Boog-pv2qy
@Boog-pv2qy Жыл бұрын
Ive watched a few Dumble vids on KZbin and this one def sounds the best. The clips with the Les Paul have a stellar tone. Yeah, that's a killer amp.
@GabrielBergman95
@GabrielBergman95 Жыл бұрын
We really put a lot of detail in making sure the mics were placed in the best area, so that we could get a great recorded tone!
@Boog-pv2qy
@Boog-pv2qy Жыл бұрын
@@GabrielBergman95 Well done bud. Nice, tasteful playing too. Cheers!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
It's a special amp!
@benjaminhixson3918
@benjaminhixson3918 7 ай бұрын
I believe this is now owned by Jason Isbell. Killer amp live!
@SalsaBro
@SalsaBro Жыл бұрын
Bless us with a toneX capture lol😁
@jimmyhumphrey_5975
@jimmyhumphrey_5975 6 ай бұрын
Hi Mason this something you should know. I have two power supplies that are reputable but the have two spots labled high voltage what pedals or what is their purpose.
@PuttinOnTheRiffs
@PuttinOnTheRiffs Жыл бұрын
Wow the mid range is doing the thing. Sounds so smooth
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
Yes, indeed!
@alexwoolridge94aw
@alexwoolridge94aw Жыл бұрын
Could yall tell if you were playing this Dumble blindfolded with 10 other amps like say, Magnatone, Two Rock, Kemper, other boutique builds and for good measure a cheap fender blues jr with a dumble inspired pedal slamming the front end? Hearing yall play through this amp, it sounds great for sure, easily can achieve said tones from a new high end boutique amp too. Perhaps it's my own ignorance but I can't pinpoint the "Dumble Sound" if that makes sense.
@chrislestermusic
@chrislestermusic Жыл бұрын
I think the “Dumble Sound” is a bit misleading. The whole method of Mr.Dumble was to tailor the amp to the player the amp was for. Robben Ford’s doesn’t sound like Larry Carlton’s which doesn’t sound like SRV’s which doesn’t sound like Steve Farris’. You get the idea. So, there really isn’t a Dumble sound.
@anthonypanneton923
@anthonypanneton923 Жыл бұрын
I think if you were sitting in a room with all those amps and doing A-B comparisons, you'd be able hear the difference. Or if you were hearing someone play in a small club - where you could sit right up front and really "hear" the band and the amps (and assuming the house sound wasn't completely destroying all of that), then you'd probably hear the difference. But if you were recording and had time to dial in the sound you want? or if it was a larger venue where everything was mic'd and all you could hear was the main sound system? then it probably wouldn't be worth the difference in price. And it also depends on exactly what tone and sound you like. If you like high-gain or shred stuff, the Dumble probably won't do what you want.
@alexwoolridge94aw
@alexwoolridge94aw Жыл бұрын
@@chrislestermusic makes sense
@alexwoolridge94aw
@alexwoolridge94aw Жыл бұрын
@anthonypanneton923 my favorite amps are my Magnatone Super 15 and Varsity reverb. Low gain but deliver solid tones. I'm sure I'd love a Dumble but can't afford lol
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
@@alexwoolridge94aw ​I think you'd get different responses for each amp Dumble or Clone. Some which you might respond to better as a player. As @chrislestermusic wrote, they're custom amps at the end of the day but do have overlap and patterns in the build archetype which are common among them. Dumble had several ODS circuit platforms over time that he would then optimize based on the player and listening sessions with the guitarists to dial in the tone. I think that many of the clones are not quite as well built as a Dumble (but some are), and they often don't use the same parts that a custom amp would use because they have to be able to replicate the same amp hundreds or thousands of times so they can't harvest parts out of vintage Fender amps like Dumble often did.
@stipeur
@stipeur Жыл бұрын
Beautiful video Mason....thank you!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@metart93
@metart93 Жыл бұрын
Would have really liked to hear the Strat into the overdrive channel without any pedals. Other than Mick playing that ODS for Guitar magazine I don't know of any other videos demoing that specific sound. PS, Only two springs on the strat trem seems like a bold move. Any reason for that?
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
It's interesting that most of the ODS sounds we know and love are all Humbucker guitars for the most parts, and there aren't many examples I can think of with prominent Strat sounds on an Overdrive Special that's set to the OD channel. The FET channel that we used on the Strat does have a little boost to it, but not much, and on the examples where we used the Vertex Boost, that really doesn't have any color but could (perhaps) hit the front end a little harder and create some distortion from it, but the amp has a good amount of headroom and the speaker is very clean (EVM12L) so any added distortion would be minimal. As to the springs, the guitar belongs to Mejia (not me) so I can't speak to the set-up. Sometimes people will use two springs to get a tention they like on the tremolo.
@rickenbacker40011
@rickenbacker40011 Жыл бұрын
I genuinely don’t understand why people pay so much or freak out about a dumble. Its low end isn’t special, its mids sound extremely normal, and its high end is pretty insignificant, so like whats so special about it? People often are like ohh but you gotta hear it in the room. No. If it doesnt record particularly well or unique, then whats even the point. If its room sound, the room has more impact on that energy then the amp. It just sounds like a fender with less high end sparkle, a little bit less of everything honestly, with even distortion. It sounded pretty dark, and when amps sound dark you usually get really nice low end, or soft mids, but you dont get either of those with a dumble. It sounds like a dark fender with an overdrive pedal. Since its always the play Good video though!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
I guess you just saved yourself $250K ;)
@rickenbacker40011
@rickenbacker40011 Жыл бұрын
@@VertexEffectsInc lets gooooooo lolol
@jwall3873
@jwall3873 Жыл бұрын
​@@VertexEffectsIncwell played!!
@Abcdef12396
@Abcdef12396 Жыл бұрын
7:38 That was a transcription of Robben Ford’s Vertex boost demo?! Haha little weird..
@godbyone
@godbyone Жыл бұрын
I got to play 2 different dumble. S before the hype I loved them. They were around 15 k 20k. I was young didn’t quite have it .but it was beautiful. I played a few of copies.70 to 80 percent but none 100 percent in person . In person is another level
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
They're special amps!
@alexdenton6586
@alexdenton6586 Жыл бұрын
I am eagerly waiting for Harley Benton to one day make a good copy of Dumble amplifiers. Just a matter of time
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
Plenty of clones out there that sound good, this is a great example of a Dumble of the many I've played.
@jwall3873
@jwall3873 Жыл бұрын
Lol This is why competition is a good thing... Someday nobody will, at a great affordable price, and blow up the market... Hail to free markets, ingenuity and volition!!
@SMAWA9
@SMAWA9 Жыл бұрын
Sounds cool but not for half a million dollars 😂
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
Well...a quarter of a million, this one sold for $239,000 I think.
@SMAWA9
@SMAWA9 Жыл бұрын
@@VertexEffectsInc not bad..
@bryanwilliams3665
@bryanwilliams3665 Жыл бұрын
Yes , I'm with you on that simply because I'm not filthy rich. This pales in comparison to the Audiophile "Cork Sniffers" who'll pay $70,000 for a pair of RCA cables!
@jwall3873
@jwall3873 Жыл бұрын
​@@VertexEffectsIncya, like a guy said to me at a EJ gig, as we were up at the stage checking the rigs out... He could put his kids through college, for what these Dumbles cost! Or buy a nice house!
@chrislestermusic
@chrislestermusic Жыл бұрын
People need to keep in mind that Dumbles are like tailor made suits. They most likely won’t fit anyone better than the person they were made for.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
I think that's true however there can be overlap.
@chrislestermusic
@chrislestermusic Жыл бұрын
@@VertexEffectsInc Absolutely! Completely agree.
@Diax1324
@Diax1324 Жыл бұрын
God that amp sounds exactly how I want a Dumble to sound. It's practically archetypical. Fat, loud, almost harmonically oversaturated (that's to say that chords can sound kind of burnt up and fuzzy). Also, Mason, two springs in the strat? What is that strat's story anyways? Seems like something personal.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
That Strat belongs to Mejia, not my guitar, but it's a great one.
@Incestrul_Lust
@Incestrul_Lust Жыл бұрын
It's... just an Amp. I need to see these pick the Dumble out of a lineup blindfolded
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
Against other Dumble clones, could be difficult, against other random amps, I think it would be easier.
@CamiloVelandia
@CamiloVelandia Жыл бұрын
The epitome of creamy tones
@stanesposito2664
@stanesposito2664 Жыл бұрын
Great tones! I've seen Robben Ford A few times and he always had a Zendrive on his board.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
He does, but only uses into the clean channel or with backline amps.
@ucasillas1219
@ucasillas1219 Жыл бұрын
Bring that bad boy to Oakland and let me try it! Lol what a dream it must have been!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
It's now in Jason Isbell's hands
@JR_Taylor
@JR_Taylor Жыл бұрын
what speaker is in the cab?
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
EVM12L
@Cpt_Adama
@Cpt_Adama Жыл бұрын
Hopefully you made some Tonex, Kemper, NAM captures of this amp!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
We didn't but that would be cool!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
@@antihero0101 The amp was for sale at the time the video was made and has since sold. Often owners of these rare and vintage amps don't want there to be a lesser priced footprint of their Dumble available on the market or something that might devalue what they have in some way. If effort to make the sale of the amp uncomplicated our purpose here was simply to document a great rare amplifier, that's it.
@masterofreality230
@masterofreality230 Жыл бұрын
Its definitely a very smooth overdrive sound.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
Yes, indeed.
@ProcashFloyd
@ProcashFloyd Жыл бұрын
The Fatness and the dynamic response on these amps are just insane. Doesn't sound like some one boosted low end artificially or muddy at all.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
It's a great amp!
@earfors
@earfors 6 ай бұрын
Happy to help build something better than this for around $200k.
@bryanwilliams3665
@bryanwilliams3665 Жыл бұрын
Nice tone.A lot of that tone would be in the transformers i would imagine..What sort of speakers were in the cabinet ?
@GabrielBergman95
@GabrielBergman95 Жыл бұрын
Speaker was EVM 12L
@jamwayofaiken-augustarockb7643
@jamwayofaiken-augustarockb7643 Жыл бұрын
Wow what an incredible tone the notes are almost horn like
@FendCore
@FendCore Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your video!!! Thanks to Gabriel also not to shred! I would have appreciate more rock'n'roll riffs than single notes solos btw ;-) I'm working on builing my own Dumble inspired amp... Is there any chance to get the schematics and/or photos of the inside? Usually some component value are susceptible to change from a model to the other, we can see that on models #102, #124, #183 schematics (that are known).
@timwhite5562
@timwhite5562 Жыл бұрын
I'm curious about the transparency of the solid state FX loop buffer vs tube. I have a tube buffer but have never tried a solid state. I know a lot of people get the tube ones because they think it'll be "warmer" , but it's a buffer; I don't care about it being warm I just want it to be transparent. If there isn't much difference Ill get one, if only to save space and weight. It's funny hearing how we could dial it in to get the tone we want since it's moot, quite literally none of us will ever find ourselves in that scenario.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
Presuming both are well built and high quality, the Solid State is the way to go. It's lower noise and more transparent if you want the effects used in the FX Loop to only influence the processing of the guitar tone with modulation, delay, and reverb and not add a separate EQ or tone to the amp that wasn't there before the effects loop was used. Tube buffered FX Loops have a sound to them, which can be a good thing if you're trying to change the fundamental tone of your amp, but if you have a sound you like without the effects loop and just want to add some wet effects after the preamp section, I don't think it's the best solution to use go with say a loop built around 12AX7 if transparency is the goal.
@timwhite5562
@timwhite5562 Жыл бұрын
@@VertexEffectsInc well, that's about as complete of an answer as one could ask for, thanks. I assume the Ceriatone one is good? The tube one I have is theirs, I bought it when I built the 50W Mustang. It was super bright so being able to round it out with the buffer was good, but the two amps I have now I just want it to be transparent, so the solid state it is.
@MartinEkberg
@MartinEkberg Жыл бұрын
I know exactly what you mean! The best result I achieved is with Fryette valvulator. Transparent and with the tube feeling driving every effect with perfection.
@stratman1021
@stratman1021 Жыл бұрын
Looks like the burning bush from The Ten Commandments. Sounds like it to.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
What does a burning bush sound like?
@stratman1021
@stratman1021 Жыл бұрын
@@VertexEffectsInc I AM WHAT I AM!!!
@stratman1021
@stratman1021 Жыл бұрын
@@VertexEffectsInc In other words it sounds heavenly.
@michaelmcgannon5588
@michaelmcgannon5588 2 ай бұрын
Do we know the original owner, and trail of ownership to present?
@GtrPknMama
@GtrPknMama Жыл бұрын
Oooohhhh…. Serious Droolage happening here! ✨🎶🤪🤤🎶✨
@raggedrec
@raggedrec Жыл бұрын
this is Dennis Herring''s right?
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
It was, see video opening with the stenciled flight case. Recently purchased by Jason Isbell.
@BuddyBlues
@BuddyBlues Жыл бұрын
My god that’s just out of this world 😮
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
🔥🔥🔥
@GabrielBergman95
@GabrielBergman95 Жыл бұрын
BEST TONE!!
@rogb3199
@rogb3199 Жыл бұрын
Funny this should appear for me. I just dropped my Dumbleator clone into a brand new rack case😂 I love that #22, FET is very useful with single coils/slide. Never forget, TKT😅
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
FET input is good to boost of the gain of a lower output pickup.
@jessek.beauchamp1356
@jessek.beauchamp1356 Жыл бұрын
Mayer will want this.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
Too late, Jason Isbell bought it
@anthonypanneton923
@anthonypanneton923 Жыл бұрын
@@VertexEffectsInc probably just seconds before JB snagged it up...
@nunoharris
@nunoharris Жыл бұрын
Hi. This amp is from What year? Thanks
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
1970's. I don't think Dennis provided a specific year.
@TheLexluthier
@TheLexluthier Жыл бұрын
I've played through #40 and took the pix of the chassis that have been over the internet for the last 20+ years. It was OK, but It needed to be recapped, as well as a new set of tubes.
@sixstringjc
@sixstringjc Ай бұрын
This owned by Jason Isbell currently, correct?
@anthonypanneton923
@anthonypanneton923 Жыл бұрын
I have difficulty imagining that this amp wouldn't sound fabulous as a pedal platform with the amp dialed in similar to what was used here with the Tele - FET input, very clean - no overdrive, plain vanilla EQ. The thing is - why would anyone want to do that with THIS amp??? or any Dumble OD Special? If you want a "pedal platform" you could just use one of those all-in-one modeling rigs in a pedal, and run it straight to the sound system and monitors. or to some super clean class-D solid state amp. doing a "pedal platform" thing with an amp like this would be like having a rare vintage wine and serving it over ice in a coffee mug!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
It’s certainly a generalization, but the consensus is that they can be voiced for more of their own overdrive, so adding another distortion pedals tends to be problematic. I found some lower gain stuff works OK, boosts, etc. some better than others.
@anthonypanneton923
@anthonypanneton923 Жыл бұрын
@@VertexEffectsInc Well I certainly will never be able to afford to find out! BTW - can you explain what is meant by the term "blossoming" when people discuss the Dumble amp response. I've never played one, but I've seen/heard guys like Robben Ford (up close in a small club) and Sonny Landreth (I think he uses one, or used to - when I was young enough to go out), so I know what they sound like. But "blossoming" seems to be one of those buzz words everybody likes to use, and honestly I don't know what they're talking about.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
@@anthonypanneton923 I think it might steam from Dumble's term "Tone Blossom" as to a voicing of the amp. I think it's generally meant to indicate compression, note decay, and second harmonics from when I've heard it demonstrated. The note tends to say bigger and sustain longer without loosing body in the decay.
@anthonypanneton923
@anthonypanneton923 Жыл бұрын
@@VertexEffectsInc OK, Thanks. it just has always sounded to me like one of those terms that the vast majority of people who use it are just repeating it because it makes them sound like they know what they're talking about!
@oneszeros1
@oneszeros1 Жыл бұрын
Rarer than rocking horse poo ... maybe one day when I win the Lotto
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
Fingers crossed!
@philf4086
@philf4086 Жыл бұрын
Great video guys! Mason should have played a bit too. So much ground to cover with this amp, maybe we get an extended video?
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
I wanted to focus on the talking and let Gabe focus on the playing. Gabe's a superior player so best to showcase the amp with a more competent guitarist.
@philf4086
@philf4086 Жыл бұрын
@@VertexEffectsInc Agreed, you've got the judgement. I have a feeling that the amp might even sound good with me playing it! That's asking a lot.
@StratTones
@StratTones Жыл бұрын
Awesome!!! Please next time play the strat Waaayyyyy more😅😢
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
That one belongs to Mejia. It's a great guitar.
@ScarletsWayMusic
@ScarletsWayMusic Жыл бұрын
Hey guys, what speaker was in the cab? EV12L?
@rexsolomon6325
@rexsolomon6325 2 ай бұрын
Sad isn't it that they did not identify the speaker. It is not an EVM12L because of the silver cone.
@IgnazioCarbone
@IgnazioCarbone Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video! Is it possible to know the speaker model? Thank you ever so much!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
EVM12L
@IgnazioCarbone
@IgnazioCarbone Жыл бұрын
@@VertexEffectsInc thanks!!!! 🙏
@stickman55100
@stickman55100 Жыл бұрын
OMG!!! That tone is Luscious and Rich!!!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
Heck yea!
@brettwood1091
@brettwood1091 Жыл бұрын
6l6? El34?
@GabrielBergman95
@GabrielBergman95 Жыл бұрын
6L6
@brettwood1091
@brettwood1091 Жыл бұрын
@@GabrielBergman95 thanks mate - beautifully played examples - really tasteful and masterfully done
@KoaCharvel
@KoaCharvel Жыл бұрын
It sounds mids forward....is it? Or is youtube on my phone tricking me?
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
Definitely...its got the mids for the kids!
@TheStudioRats
@TheStudioRats Жыл бұрын
Yes yes yes!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
Yes!
@nedelealucretiu5453
@nedelealucretiu5453 Жыл бұрын
mason...can we believe that 22 is the best one ?
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
I don't know if it's the BEST one for everyone. It's the best one that I've played considering the clean channel vs. dirty channel and how balanced they are. Sometimes "best" can be tricky, like saying "I wear a size 12 shoe so you should too".
@treatb09
@treatb09 11 ай бұрын
Who demos this amp and plugs in 10 pedals?! Where are the real musicians
@sebastienboisvert3268
@sebastienboisvert3268 Жыл бұрын
Now we have to get the Vertex Catch 22 O/D😉
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
Yes 🤘
@DavidSchneiderIP
@DavidSchneiderIP 7 ай бұрын
I am selling a 1964/65 Fender Super Reverb modded by Dumble in Santa Cruz, CA in in the early 70s. Any suggestions or inquiries are welcome. Photos, serial numbers of amp etc.
@waynegram8907
@waynegram8907 Жыл бұрын
VERTEX, the vertex dumble pedals don't have that extra lengthy sustain that makes the notes have that blossoming effect like this dumble. Try to make a vertex pedal that gets that dumble midrange EQ plus have that extra lengthy sustain so the notes get that blossoming effect. This might have to be a pedal that is designed to only work in the amplifiers effects loop to get that extra lengthy sustain and dumble compression to get that blossoming effect.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
Have you played our pedals side by side a Dumble?
@waynegram8907
@waynegram8907 Жыл бұрын
@@VertexEffectsInc only have heard in YT videos by others it seems the vertex pedals don't sustain as long. The only way to fix the problem is using the vertex SSS SRV before the fender amplifier and also use another vertex SSS ( used as an EQ pedal ) and two compressor pedals in series in the amplifiers effects loop. This is the only way I have found it gets closer to a poor mans dumble amplifiers. Have you tried this setup? They make LA2A compressor pedals and studio compressor pedals by Universal Audio, Origin Effects, Empress Effects, etc which you can make a YT lesson about this setup.
@sacredhighway1
@sacredhighway1 19 күн бұрын
Just wish it was a tele not a lp
@Hakujap1
@Hakujap1 Жыл бұрын
Mason: would love to know what speaker is in that cab.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
EVM12L
@Hakujap1
@Hakujap1 Жыл бұрын
saw that you already posted below. thx
@seankinnaman9384
@seankinnaman9384 3 ай бұрын
Perpetuating the myth…. It’s just a thing that amplifies a very low tech mic. It’s not magic,…just don’t break it. I saw Robin Ford live. He’s an amazing player, but I’d rather hear him play an old Super Bass or something.
@gregmize01
@gregmize01 Жыл бұрын
🎸👍🎸👍🎸
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@BeantownToBigD
@BeantownToBigD Жыл бұрын
Hello birdie
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
Howdy!
@mrtonysantos
@mrtonysantos 8 ай бұрын
so you get a chance to show us what a dumble can do and the only thought you guys have is to throw peddles in front of it? could have given us 5-10min direct into the amp first maybe?
@jannoqueyquep4615
@jannoqueyquep4615 Жыл бұрын
Dayum!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
Yep!
@shabazz18
@shabazz18 Жыл бұрын
So why hasn't it been reverse engineered and reproduced?
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
There have been many models that have been replicated over the years.
@martimdesouzajunior7585
@martimdesouzajunior7585 Жыл бұрын
Guitarrista sem pegada e mesmo assim o som ficou ótimo. Dumble é foda!
@andremouracosta
@andremouracosta Жыл бұрын
Mão frouxa né kkkk
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@oldmate86
@oldmate86 Жыл бұрын
It's a very dark sounding amp. Not sure if I like it or not.
@CerealDust-nStuff
@CerealDust-nStuff Жыл бұрын
The Cobra by Louis Electric sounds just as good. Yes, really.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
No, but if you've played these two amps side by side and made that determination, God bless!
@CerealDust-nStuff
@CerealDust-nStuff Жыл бұрын
@@VertexEffectsInc - Yes, look into it. Louis Rosano spent years researching that circuit. He’s also worked with Keith Richards, John Fogerty, Danny Gatton, Hubert Sumlin, Warren Haynes, Jorma Kaukonen, Duke Robillard, Robben Ford, Ana Popovic, Jackson Browne, and so many others.
@xdoctorblindx
@xdoctorblindx Жыл бұрын
You can really tell that it's a guitar amp by the way that it sounds!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
Let's hope so
@adamziolkowski2549
@adamziolkowski2549 Жыл бұрын
Haha, what? 😂
@VictorEMusique
@VictorEMusique Жыл бұрын
so pretty it hurts
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
Heck yea!
@memphismick7010
@memphismick7010 4 ай бұрын
So we don't really know how the amp sounds, because you used pedals. Why couldn't you just use the amp by itself?
@traviswhite5978
@traviswhite5978 Жыл бұрын
I don't get it, I really don't hear the greatness in this tone or playing.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
I’m sorry Travis that we couldn’t throw in some ABBA songs for you, just doesn’t suit a Dumble.
@nonoclay
@nonoclay Жыл бұрын
Little Walter 59 sounds better! As Robin hahhahhaha
@Turboy65
@Turboy65 3 ай бұрын
It doesn't do anything for me. I've always considered Dumbles to be overrated. There's a bit of "emperor's new clothes" involved. Honestly I prefer my '69 Marshall Plexi for a natural overdrive, and I prefer my silverface Fender Pro Reverb for cleans.
@patmoore6061
@patmoore6061 Жыл бұрын
Got a nice Katana if you’re considering a trade?😮
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
Dumble modded Boss Katana?
@chrisoneill3075
@chrisoneill3075 Жыл бұрын
I loved the sound of the amp but hated the voices that tried to dominate the video and ruin it. Its an outstanding amp , I want to hear it not 2 annoying American whiny accents
@cosmonaut9942
@cosmonaut9942 Жыл бұрын
That amp is owned by Dennis Herring and has not been "hidden." It's no more rare than any of the older amps made by Dumble. Sounds great but doesn't stand head and shoulders above the other Dumbles I've heard and played
@jwall3873
@jwall3873 Жыл бұрын
Is or was owned??
@cosmonaut9942
@cosmonaut9942 Жыл бұрын
is @@jwall3873
@benoitguillou3146
@benoitguillou3146 10 ай бұрын
But then again a single bitcoin got to be worth 68k at some point ....A green submariner is worth 23k ...Farcking NFTs man ( which is not more than an SQL entry , how god damned insane is that ^^) ! It's amazing what carefully crafted hype can do in a world of unhinged money printing by the federal reserve .....I'm even more amazed that John Mayer isn't pumping cryptos instead of old dumble amps and watches ^^....
@dane4453
@dane4453 Жыл бұрын
It's nice especially with the boost. But, I don't hear $250,000.00 and the user should not have to use a boost on an amp that costs that much. Plus, so many amp options and Fractal out there.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't compare Fractal, but there are some great tube amps that can sound similar, but not quite the same.
@ricofama1785
@ricofama1785 Жыл бұрын
so maybe the amp DOES make a difference....
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