RARE Marlins that are NOT RIFLES

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When you hear "Marlin" you probably think of rifles such as the many versions of the 336 and the Model 60 .22 : but did you know that Marlin used to make some superb pump action shotguns? Two Marlin shotguns come to mind: The Marlin Model 43 and the Marlin 1898. Come check out these rare and remarkable Marlin shotguns. The Marlin 1898 and the Model 43 are definitely worthy of your collection. Enjoy and thanks for watching! If you wish to support the channel and have access to more informative USOG content, follow the links below:
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[@Trumplican]

do you ever take the buttplates off to check inside the stock? I once found a hunting license from 1929 in a Winchester 1887

[@gunfisher4661]

Seen some other vids where people did that and found some nice history.

[@deadhorse1391]

I bought 1897 Winchester years back, get it home and I notice that it has a piece of paper under the buttplate I take the buttplate off and there is this folded piece of paper Open up the paper and it says “ Put the buttplate back on idiot “

[@Trumplican]

@@deadhorse1391 now that's funny! I always take them off the 1929 hunting license is the first time I ever found anything good though. Found a spare firing pin in an old Swiss Vetterli once too.

[@johnturner5893]

You needed hunting license in 1929? In 1930 only in 24 States you needed a license to drive..lol

[@deadhorse1391]

@@johnturner5893 hunting licenses in the USA go back to colonial days manly to control out of state hunters. Maryland had a license you had to buy to hunt waterfowl in the 1870s

[@asimseth1927]

What a great video. Love the way you have narrated the technical side of the firearm along with your personal experience of hunting. Simply awesome 👏🏻

[@Magisktification]

I love my 60ies 336, didnt even know they made pump-action shotguns, i would love to get my hands on one! Thanks for yet another amazing video!

[@michaelspratt610]

I have my father's first rifle---a pre-1900 rolling block in .22. What a lovely item. I had to replace the 3-tanged spring because the tang that keeps the block closed was broken and now it works great. I don't see many like this one as it's a non-takediwn model. If you have one I'd love to see an episode on it. As always I appreciate your passion and your energy. Cheers!

[@rickpaul9565]

As usual, excellent video with a lot of information presented in a pleasant manner. 😀

[@stephensmith4480]

Some very nice craftmanship on display. Thank you as always.

[@Me2Lancer]

Thanks for sharing these beautiful vintage shotguns. Glad you found them for your collection.

[@oldgoat1890]

Your introduction was great. I remember being told so many things about guns when I was younger that were just wrong. I have a model 49 (Newer version 1898) I am working on now. What you have is one of the earliest models. Another neat early shotgun is the J Stevens model 520 if you like early shotguns.

[@dylangreen9819]

Just picked up a 1920s 520 for $260. Awsome shotguns!

[@martinfranke846]

I love Stevens 520 "double humps"

[@MAsonTRIX]

I also collect these. I do not buy any recoil padded ones. Totally agree. Thank you for the video and have a great weekend!

[@kyleguiffredo6771]

Thanks for pointing out and making note of the mated barrel , I love that detail, I should have bought the one I passed up for a Rem 11 sportsman, o well a frend bought the Marlin and still had it ad far as I know

[@Candrsenal]

The earliest 1898's did not have inertia safeties, so no release button. I will say, I don't think you should be able to pump open the action with the hammer back. It's designed so that the firing pin needed to be forward for the locking block to rise. I'm betting your pin or block have some wear or damage if you can cycle it without depressing the pin. Here is a video on inspecting one. Mind you this example has an inertia lock. kzbin.info/www/bejne/faOykpWImrB8las

[@oldgoat1890]

That is backwards. The early 1898 pumps DID have the inertial release button. I have a handful and some parts guns.

[@ronlafitte6864]

Mike, this was a wonderful video to wake up to! I’ve never seen any of these old Marlins so it is quite educational and enlightening. I totally agree, leave the gun in original condition! No recoil pads or stock alterations! I found a 1937 hunting license inside the stock of an old Browning shotgun, so you never know. Wow, the engraving on your shotgun is wonderful! I’ve seen and handled Remington rolling blocks but never a Marlin of like design. It’s amazing to see the mechanical features of these wonderful guns. I think I need some more coffee to settle my excitement!!! HaHa. Thank you for this video, my friend!!

[@percyolivas1128]

this engraved marlin pump action is really a collectable piece

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hi Percy - So hard to find - you're right; just love that gun. I know a few collectors of these - and any in just about any condition is scarce and valuable now. One of the slickest and finest shooting pumps ever. True Marlin.

[@percyolivas1128]

@@UnitedStatesOfGuns very good design

[@JohnAsparagus96]

My grandfather once had a bolt-action Marlin Goose Gun, with a 36-Inch barrel. He claimed it was accurate at nearly 150 metres.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hi John - a long range favorite; people made some incredible shots with these.

[@c.j.rogers2422]

That Marlin is a FANTASTIC sight to behold, and I'm not generally all that enamoured with pump shotguns. Something just looks RIGHT!

[@avocado9763]

Excellent historic info. The craftmanship is outstanding. No CNC machines back then.

[@tonylipton4068]

Hi. Mike, Thank you for sharing, highly appreciated.👍 it’s fantastic, your collection & videos; we learned a lot. Many of my relatives have migrated to Canada; if it’s possible, some the other day, we may have a chance to meet in Canada; it will be my honor & pleasure to learn more with you. Have a nice season.❤️

[@matthewgower]

I just got a model 1898 with a 28” barrel for goose hunting, got it for $450 including shipping, your video made me very happy about my purchase, i also ordered a replacement buttpad as it came with a broken unoriginal one. P.S. I grew up on the Chesapeake bay

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Lucky you. Waterfowling paradise. Canvasbacks! Great shotgun and great buy!

[@slickdazzler7330]

Some very interesting designs for sure. Love the older stuff

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thanks Slick - such gems

[@backachershomestead]

Beautiful firearms!

[@michaelspratt610]

.....and what a gorgeous Marlin.

[@paulbryan1013]

I heard a similar recipe for a joint from an old milk cow you marinate the meat in a pint of dark ale with a glass of port wine a measure of rum and a small glass of cider then cook for 3 hours allow it to cool then throw the meat away and drink the gravy

[@peterkaparis8911]

What a great Marlin they don't make them like that anymore and what a great story about the old timer with faded Marlin I have a story very similar to yours but this old timer was useing a Harrington and Richardson reinforced breach 36" barrel and not one bit of blueing left on it, but boy did he bring down some high ducks as you said great memories.

[@HD-ft2xe]

I recently saw a C grade similar to yours available on a website. It also had engraving much like yours and the tang indicated a Marlin Model No 24. The serial number is about 6000 higher than yours. The wood is in very nice condition, probably refinished at one time. Thanks for the videos. I am very grateful.

[@iconicamericano1131]

It is very similar to my marlin model 24 I own but there are a few components that are different. I do believe this is a model 17.

[@u.p.woodtick3296]

Love that model 19

[@C172Pilotdude]

Great channel, new subscriber here!

[@jimf1964]

My dad and I got sucked in by the same sort of story, but about a fish. Long, super complicated recipe, but at the end, throw the fish, and all the pots and pans into the garbage, and go out to eat. I'll never forget that either. 🙂 Beautiful shotguns, and I have to admit, had I ever the chance to handle a rolling block, I would have thought it broken too. Thanks for the informative video.

[@mdub1955]

Love that shotgun... mechanical fine art!

[@GorillaCookies]

Beautiful Marlin. I have a 1896 and a model 19. Both are quite nice but that engraving is gorgeous

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Not many in our boat Gorilla - most have never heard of these. Good on you for owning 2. I was shooting mine the other day and noticed how fine the handling is. Very fine shotguns.

[@joshuahenderson]

Thanks for posting. There’s a marlin 1898 for $550 at my local shop but no one has any info anywhere. They have it listed as a Model 24.

[@c.j.rogers2422]

BUY IT!! Better yet, tell me where it is! I want one!

[@thomk9767]

Thanks so much for this video, Mike! The 1898 you show is exactly like mine, which I won in an auction for about $120.00. Mine doesn't have the wonderful engraving though. I love that it shotgun. It's a beast, but it is pretty smooth, too. Great video!

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thanks Thom K - You won a very, very fine and scarce shotgun. All the best.

[@joemorganeatmyshortschannel]

very cool id love to have one

[@afinelookinggentleman2631]

Sort of hoping you will do a video and give your thoughts on over/unders, cheaper and more expensive comparisons. I’ve been wanting a Citori, but noticed a nice little Stoger the other day. Then realized Stoeger is owned by Benneli, which is owned by Berreta, which gave me some confidence. Anyway, I think it sounds like a decent show. Thanks for everything

[@chadthompson5302]

Thanks I have one has a project gun to refinish during our long northern MN winter

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Good project!

[@russellmiller212]

What a lovely receiver on that Marlin! An icon of American beauty!

[@raginshaw2020]

A Fine old shotgun, Thanks for sharing.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

They're so great Ragin - just amazing.

[@oldgoat1890]

I have to agree with you about the safety of Marlins. You hear horrible stories that are usually rumors. Many of these stories were started by rival companies. Winchester used to say their '97 was safer than a Marlin because of the enclosed bolt. I have seen no less than six Winchester '97s that had the back right rear corner broken out or welded up. I have quite a few Marlin "Parts guns" and none were blown up. As for a company putting an unsafe gun on the market, yes their were no lawsuits back then. They didn't call the Winchester model 11 "The widow maker" for nothing.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Good post OG

[@charleshults2671]

Great video I have one of those they are great shooter

[@jerrymartin5100]

Beautiful shotgun

[@richarddixon7276]

I think the drive to lose the external hammer was driven by the desire for shooters sling the weapon and Not have problems with the hammer snagging as it was unslung , there may have been other factors but I have read this somewhere . Shoot Straight Stay Safe & Stay Well.

[@robbieandbeckie]

My dad had a Marlin Goose Gun. I have seen very few of those in recent years.

[@danlovett3697]

Wow Mike ,,, thats a beautiful shotgun ! I recently picked up a Model 19 (2 months ago) at a local gun shop . I paid $275.00 for it ! It's a plain model , unlike yours . It was listed as a 1907-08 model , but as I have learned , Marlin used parts to continue building these models as late as 1916 ... Mine is in very nice condition with one exception . Someone made the inertia lock non functional /disconnected . For whatever reason they ground out the receiver slightly around the pin itself . The pin is still there , but appears to be disconnected inside the receiver . I haven't taken it apart to see what they did , yet . That aside , it's a beautiful weapon and a fine example of the engineering of the day ... One of my favorites actually .... Don't know if I'll try firing it , though a local gunsmith said it was safe and functional . And it's a takedown as well . So cool.... Coincidentally , I also have 2 of the Rolling blocks you showed. A Remington (marked on tang) , and a Carl Gustaf model ... one of mine also still has the medallion in the stock , like yours . My brother is loading (8×58) rounds for them from 45-70 brass . He has a couple as well ... Anyway , thanks for another fine , informative video . Your doing a great job and many of us truly appreciate your efforts , and those behind the scenes as well .....

[@Bucky1836]

Why cant we have stuff like this today 😭

[@iconicamericano1131]

I'm almost certain that's a marlin model 17. Beautiful shotgun.

[@jamesolsen350]

I have a Marlin 12 gauge Over and Under. Maybe 50 rounds through it. A solid 80%. A great shooter. It's my pheasant gun. I have owned it for 30+ years.

[@MrPh30]

Very good video, they made a lot one did not know about. Would you do a episode on Dakota rifles one time? Heard via Ron Spomer blog Rem / Dakota custom shop in Sturgis is closing down . Hope they come up again. And Magnum Mauser actions made now since CZ stopped, Montana ,bust down, possible Dakota amd so on.

[@trapdoorspringfieldmodel1888]

Kimber, Winchester, Mauser, John Rigby, Holland and Holland, and Westley Richards are the names that pop into my mind for guns that have magnum Mauser actions available.

[@justacentrist4147]

For anyone that has one and wants to hunt water foul with it you need to find bismuth ammo. Steel shot will destroy the choke in these old guns and may actually split the barrel at the muzzle

[@kickhick7tree1]

I just traded a year old Remington model 783 with the synthetic stock (I paid $379 for it) for an 1898 Marlin! It’s not got that engraving, but it’s in good shape over all. Guess I made a pretty good trade

[@Romin.777]

Hi Mike, That breech reminded me of my Flobert bicycle gun. :) take care and God bless.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hello Romin - Hope all is well with you. Yes - I know what you mean; such a distinctive profile. These old Marlin pumps are in a class of their own - balancing between modern manufacturing and the classic ways of doing things. In particular the 1898 and its various models is a diamond. All the best. .🙏

[@Romin.777]

@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Hi Mike, To be honest, not that great, still a curfew in Holland.. Ridiculous really, but i'll be the law abiding citizen if need be. ;) Beyond that i am doing pretty okay i guess. Thanks for asking btw. :)) I hope the same goes for you. i'll remember you in my prayers. Take care and untill the next one. :))

[@daneboro6847]

Nice scatter gun.

[@joelschauer2765]

There is a beautiful model 19 c on GB right now.

[@mwmwmwmwmmdw]

can you fire modern 12g loads in the marlin model 28?

[@davidissitt7718]

What a lovely firearm

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

They sure are david - a top pump action - hard to find now - but worth the search.

[@3ducs]

I happen to have in hand a Marlin No. 27-S chambered in 25-20 that has a very similar receiver profile to your first example. It is a well made takedown rifle that I found in a now closed local shop. I've not seen a Marlin shotgun of any sort that I can recall.

[@Mindokwin]

I bought a 27-S as well a couple years ago in 25-20. These were beautiful little pump action rifles. Also have a Remington 25 in 32-20.

[@3ducs]

@@Mindokwin I have a weak spot for those obsolete calibers, and firearms. So much craftsmanship went into them, they are each works of art.

[@Mindokwin]

@@3ducs Me too! Almost have to reload, 25-20 was impossible to find even before the ammo shortage and 32-20 was over $100 a box last time I looked.

[@3ducs]

@@Mindokwin When I bought the 27-S I was going to buy three boxes of ammo until I was told the price. I settled on one box. I think we have to reload at these prices. I got my 32-20 ammo at good prices several years ago. 1957Shep just dropped a video of his Colt Police Positive revolver in 32-20.

[@huntpainreacts]

I will probably buy some bismuth shotshells for my guns. Mainly because some of them are getting up on age (my oldest gun is my grandpa's shotgun... a Manufrance Robust side by side) and I feel safer firing bismuth out of my guns including that one. Oh and that Marlin is beautiful. I mean it's a Marlin, they look good.

[@COIcultist]

A reverse thread? Is that a left-handed thread i.e. where you unscrew by turning clockwise?

[@Kevin-ic5pg]

Should do I review on the Winchester 1200 and 1400

[@brain4154]

i bought a marlin model 43, everything seems to be in working order.. cycles smooth, no stick in the action.. wear is minimal, no cracks or anything. anyone care to weigh in on whether or not you think it'd be safe to shoot light loads out of, and it will not be fired often. for self defense/decoration haha

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hi Brian - I have the Model 43 and use 2 3/4 12 gauge ammo from Cabela's - no issues, no jamming - great shotgun. Hope this helps.

[@brain4154]

@@UnitedStatesOfGuns yes thank you, i actually managed to get her all taken apart and cleaned up just this morning and the internal are all surprisingly in fantastic shape! thank you for your comment, helps to have someone who actually has one and shoots it weigh in on the subject. taking her out with some target loads in the AM

[@oldgoat1890]

Stay away from steel shot if it is full choke.

[@paulmoss7940]

How about a marlin 120 pump ? Decent shotgun . They made a few with a 40 inch barrel (MXR) but I never had a chance at one . Outlawed at local turkey(card) shoots back in the early 90's.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Great shotgun! I'd buy one again in a heartbeat.

[@flintrichards945]

I agree with you on the exposed hammers I really like them I think at times there’s just such a push to modernize firearms that simple and rugged things such as exposed hammers are gotten rid of in the name of modernization. Take the AR 15 and I have nothing against it but the sights could be much better and different but everyone wants some kind of fancy sight system that’s expensive and to me fragile in a lot of situations most men can shoot open or Aperture sights quite well and don’t need the expensive and sensitive optics for combat situations. All that being said I would love a good shotgun with a exposed hammer made of steel and good walnut and rifles with good adjustable sights.

[@usnchief1339]

Nice shotgun, but not as smooth to cycle as a Winchester 1897. It was sold to me as a wall hanger for $100. I believe Marlin put out a letter warning not to shot with modern ammo. I guess they were covering their rear because of the idiots putting modern steel shot high power loads in them. I have one with all of the parts and it functions just fine with target rounds. Thanks for the video.

[@martinfranke846]

These Marlins are neat! Had one that said "1896" patent date on the barrell. Chamber only measured 2 9/16", and 2 3/4" plastic hulls wouldnt eject. I want a 12 ga Greener GP with martini action. Can you get one on the american side of the pond without a second mortgage?

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hi - I think so - the GPs show up once in awhile in good shape for $500 - $800; great buy

[@martinfranke846]

@@UnitedStatesOfGuns thanks!

[@perrysmith6872]

I have one n 16 ga .bought it at a flea market yrs ago for ua song ...

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hi Perry - These are can be so undervalued but are being more and more appreciated as one of the most distinctly American firearms made by a legendary maker. I've left many great guns that I didn't buy for some reason - it happens - and usually within an hour I realize that I should buy the gun and go back to do so - invariably they are gone. Oh well - there are always others in the future. Take care Perry.

[@jermainerace4156]

Supergoose when?

[@lcsjr6040]

I have an 1898 Marlin pump shotgun. The problem is the shotgun came equipped with the wrong stock...looks like a bad retrofit. I have not been able to find a replacement stock any where since I got it 5 months ago. Any ideas where I might find one? Thank you for any thoughts.

[@oldgoat1890]

watch ebay

[@Zionist_Eternal]

A small request... Have you any information on Chicago Arms Model A? My understanding is Chicago Arms made few or none of their own designs but rather manufactured clones of others' designs. Their Model A is a clone of the Marlin 98 which was, if my information is correct, essentially Marlin's answer to Winchester's ever popular Model '97.

[@avocado9763]

What kind of brick did he use? Ha ha.

[@joedouche3818]

I was just gifted a marlin single shot 410 shotgun, from an 80 year old man, he said it is about 60 years old, he had it just mounted in his garage. It's in very rough shape, How can I find what year it was made? Also it has a 26 inch barrel.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hi Joe - Maybe it looks like this one bauerauction.hibid.com/lot/63832-126905-724814/marlin-mod-60-12-ga-shotgun/ Made from 1929 to 1932 - I'll bet there are not many around. Hope this helps.

[@lizchatfield692]

Do you know of any manufactures of fire arms in .303 for public use , i think three US manufactures did but cant fine them . Hope you can help. Bernie C

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hi Bernie - There are plenty of .303 Lee Enfields around; you likely know that. As far as new manufacture .303 rifles - there are two gems. Ruger #1 had a special run in .303 and Uberti has their stalking rifle in .303 www.uberti-usa.com/cartridge-rifles/1885-courteney-stalking-rifle Best of luck!

[@jonlennon3348]

I had 2 of them, I had a minty featherweight marlin and a standard field grade. I could kick myself for selling either one. I also have one the rarest rolling blocks in 50-70 it is a trials rifle. A short carbine with a small brass tag on it.Its real. and minty.

[@robertkenyon3900]

I have one my grandpa gave me but it doesn’t fire anyone know if I can get it fixed

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hi Robert - For sure it can be fixed - fairly simple mechanisms.

[@chuckmargrabe7283]

I’m bidding on a model 43 currently and I hear reports that you’re not supposed to shoot these, is this true?

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hi Chuck - Please see my most recent video. I shoot mine all the time - no issues with safety so far.

[@chuckmargrabe7283]

@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Thank you very much for the immediate reply I love watching your videos I also have a Winchester model 12 and a model 25 I like all of the old ones

[@chuckmargrabe7283]

@@UnitedStatesOfGuns I also have a 1939 wards western field model 35 which is a Stevens 520 the action on that is incredibly smooth maybe one of these days you could do a video on those thanks again

[@waynewrona1561]

I have 1908 marlin 2520 pump I need the Ejector can anyone help me

[@tazerick]

your marlin 1898 shoudl lock upand not be able to action with the hammer already back. mine doesn't allow it and that's why you get a missile going back into your head called a bolt.

[@tazerick]

granted i have the earlier national arms company model takedown which is the predecesure to the marlin

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thank you - so far so good - no missiles through head : )

[@rudysroots2789]

You cost me money.

[@deadhorse1391]

I have one of those Marlin Hammer shotguns forget of the top of my head what model. I have read they are not safe with modern shells, don’t know I’ve shot maybe 1/2 box of shells out of it. I wasn’t that impressed seem like it had a very long action and not smooth at all. I think a Winchester 97 has it all over it

[@trapdoorspringfieldmodel1888]

You state that you have "read they are not safe with modern shells." You state that you "don't know," and then say that you "shot maybe 1/2 box of shells out of it" without knowing whether the gun is safe with the selected ammo. My advice is to take the gun to an actual gunsmith (not Bubba down the street) and find out if the gun is not only safe, but to find out what ammunition is actually appropriate for it. Your technique of hoping for the best is a good way to get yourself and/or others injured or killed!

[@deadhorse1391]

@@trapdoorspringfieldmodel1888 after I bought the gun I went over it and made sure it locked up properly before I shot it. Shot some low brass field loads, not magnum buck shot. Personally I just didn’t like it so put it up. I thought about cutting it back to make it into a riot gun and selling it to a cow boy action shooter. That is when I found out that the SINGLE ACTION SHOOTING SOCIETY ( SASS) don’t allow them to be used because of safety issues. Apparently they can fail to lock up and also a shooter can push in on the bolt release with their thumb and then still fire the gun. Not good. Have also read that there can be problems because of short tight forcing cones shooting modern star crimp shells in them instead of the old roll crimp shells I don’t know how big a problem if at all this would be honestly especially with light loads Lots of these guns are still out there and lots of guys still shoot them I have a couple 1897 winchesters and I think they are better design and safer. I used to hunt geese with one using 2 3/4 magnums never a problem. I also have a Winchester 1893 which I consider unsafe to shoot and don’t. I’m not going to pay a gunsmith $75 an hour to do something I feel comfortable doing myself on a gun I paid $150 for. It’s a gun that I don’t shoot, don’t have a need to, I will say I would have no hesitation to shoot some field loads out of it today. I do shoot and hunt with many antique guns including a beautiful English Manton double barrel Flint

[@219garry]

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