RARE WW2 API Ammo from FINLAND - TESTED!

A viewer named John donated some rare and unusual ammo for us to test out. This is Finnish 7.62x54R, and was captured from the Russians and re-used. The condition of these were pretty rough. Bullets that were not fully-seated, dents in the cases, and very grimy. Will these even function after over 80 years stored in just a cardboard box?
John did mention he believed these were used for the ShKAS MG.

[@jvihavainen6705]

Excellent video. D-ps-sy are abbreviations indicating D-type (= boat-tail) bullet, armor piercing incendiary. I have Finnish WW2-era ammunition manuals, so I checked them. A287 marked in the box is Finnish military ammunition inventory number, which indicates steel-cased Soviet 7.62 x 54R AP-incendiary ammunition without stripper clips. The ammunition type is intended for piercing some armor and then igniting flammable liquid or gas behind the armor - so basically designed for shooting aircraft and setting its (often lightly armored) gas-tank on fire. The Soviets referred the bullet type as B-32. Tip of the bullet contains incendiary mix and is intended to fall apart and ignite while bullet pierces armor and inside the bullet behind it is hard steel penetrator. According manual muzzle velocity was 860 - 875 meters /second. Ammunition manufacturer is marked in headstamp and known factories to produce this ammo included factories 60 (Lugansk), 17 (Podolsk), 46 (Kuntzevo / Jekaterinburg) and 529 (Novaja Ljalja).

[@taofledermaus]

Awesome! I was counting out someone to fill in the blanks

[@flyfin108]

voting to be pinned ;)

[@Asko83]

I would like to add that the date of "inspection" is from before Continuation War (between Finland and Soviet Union) was over. So to me this implies that these cartridges were looted from Red Army troops by the Finnish Army and then repacked for use by the Finns. That could explain the dents and poor conditions as damage the ammo got before it was deemed "still good enough for use" and packed by Finns. Considering that these were meant for shooting at planes... Either Finnish troops conquered a position that had these for AA Maxim machineguns. OR Finns shot down a Soviet planet that was carrying guns loaded with these and then went through the ammo belts on the wreckage and decided that these particular rounds are "still good." And yes, since the pack says "inspection date" I really assume that someone went through looted ammo and checked each one to see if they could be packed and used by Finns or the condition was too dangerous seeming and even the dented round was deemed good enough...

[@Dr_Mario2007]

I agree, pin the comment! 👍 It was what I thought, as tips of the bullets just gave it away that it was clearly an incendiary round. Thanks for filling in! It's always good to know exactly what it is.

[@Dr_Mario2007]

​@@Asko83 That would make the most sense for why they're repackaged.

[@plantmaniowa8168]

Those rounds are for 1930- WWII soviet aircraft. They ran those through the ShKAS machine gun. Armor piercing incendiary rounds.

[@VeritasEtAequitas]

Was the D-round not also used for the modified Finnish captured Mosin-Nagants with D-stamped barrels?

[@Grobut81]

Correct. But like everyone else, the Ruskies quickly discovered that Aircraft technology had outpaced the 7.62's usefullness, so the ShKAS LMG's were phased out for the 12.7mm UB HMG as quickly as possible. This rendered tons and tons of these AP-Incendiary rounds that had been made for aircraft use obsolete. Well, waste not want not, so they ended up getting used by Russian snipers quite often, and sometimes LMG crews would get their hands on them aswell.

[@nuclearmedicineman6270]

Kiv. Patr. is short for Kiväärin Patruuna (Rifle Cartridge). D is the designation of a boat tail bullet, PS is armor piercing, SY is incendiary. Based on the box, it's a Russian made armor piercing incendiary, a B-32 7.62x54R. Packaged before the end of the continuation war, so It's captured enemy ammo, which could explain why they look like they've been through a war. Likely surplussed because a Finnish 54R is actually 53R; they're mostly interchangeable, but not the same. It's like the difference between .223 Remington and 5.56 NATO. You should be able to use a 54R if 53R isn't available (there's only a thou or so difference in length), but it's not recommended. Once the war was over, domestic production would have made Russian ammo unnecessary to stock.

[@SeersantLoom]

I kind of remember russian 7.62 is a little different caliber than what we usually think as 7.62. It should be tad larger.

[@lukerhode8960]

@@SeersantLoom Yeah, it has a bullet diameter around .312 as opposed to .308 for American/Nato 7.62 if memory serves.

[@MrEshah]

The russian caliber is 7.62x54R where as the finnish is 7.62x53R so the russian casing is slightly longer than the finnish one and the bullet is 0,07mm bigger in diameter. Which also means that it was good that they used a russian barrelled rifle to test these as the cartridge might have not seated properly in the chamber of a barrel made for the finnish caliber.

[@greycorbie224]

I think you are right with the bullet type. In the 80s I served in the East German Airforce and I remember the different types of AK ammo we had: a red/black bullet tip meant armor piercing/incendiary!

[@vihreelinja4743]

my memory say that Finnish bored the guns in a way that Finnish guns can shoot Russian ammo but Russian weapons can NOT shoot Finnish ammo. so the Finnish ammo should be a tad bigger to not fit a Russian bore. i just cant remember what weapons were made like this :D

[@noahcount7132]

Really enjoy Ryan being the designated TFM shooter. His remarks/comments are every bit as off the wall as OG's, but in enough of a different direction that they're distinct from each other. Also enjoyed seeing the terminal effect of the ancient ammo! 👍

[@taofledermaus]

THanks for the feedback Noah

[@tsasso6199]

Trys way too hard

[@ryanrooks7570]

@@tsasso6199 I've seen a couple comments like this. I'm pretty much the same person on camera as off camera. Maybe I'm just not right for the channel.

[@jentlejeniuskat]

@@ryanrooks7570 I'd love to see you back on the channel. When I finally stopped laughing after the "application programmer interface" gag, I had to rewind to see what I'd missed.

[@jic1]

@@ryanrooks7570 I think you'll relax a bit as you do more of these and your delivery will feel a little more natural, but otherwise you're doing just fine. Keep it up.

[@TSKNBgaming]

15kpl 7.62 kiväärin patruunaa (translation: 15pcs 7.62 rifle cartridges) 🤔 what i coincidence that i just opened youtube, and saw this as a Finnish follower.

[@taofledermaus]

good timing!

[@b6983832]

Ei ihan noinkaan. Patruuna on cartridge englanniksi. Bullet merkitsee luotia.

[@TSKNBgaming]

@@b6983832 ainiin jooo, totta👍vähän väsyneenä tuli toi kirjotettua potato modessa. Nyt on korjattu.

[@drshoe8744]

I love those API Rounds impacting with the High Speed Cams, that's such a Beautiful Display of Destruction.

[@taofledermaus]

thanks!

[@keithrickson8522]

14:09 love the bird flying through the high speed shot 😮

[@taofledermaus]

He was hard to see in the real time shots

[@keithrickson8522]

@@taofledermaus I didn't see it at all in the real time shot.

[@yellowhorse6]

Ryan is officially Audience-approved. He's a good shooter, witty and just irreverent enough to keep us guessing as to what he might say next.

[@taofledermaus]

thanks for the nice words

[@hessex1899]

I feel like Ryan knows his way around REGEX.

[@StubbySum9]

black-red tip are armour piercing incendiary round from my understanding, Nice video :)

[@Superkuh2]

You can't say those words on youtube anymore.

[@StubbySum9]

@@Superkuh2 Just did though for 2h ago

[@taofledermaus]

Exactly, we had to play it dumb and not mention key words.

[@richardwilson6392]

@@taofledermaus I think key words are key words

[@neilsimpson79]

The tip never lies, I realized they were HE Incendiary rounds when you opened the box but I've never seen ones as spicy before. It's amazing they didn't break down or just turn to rust

[@VashStarwind]

Being covered in that oil probably saved them

[@baomao7243]

I had the exact same reaction. Then i saw the first shot. CONFIRMED.

[@petrimakela5978]

It's not HE. It's armor piercing incendiary

[@zzzzzzzzzsz]

@@petrimakela5978 its actually the eye of sauron

[@Dr_Mario2007]

Coating the bullets in oil, grease and wax are one of a few common way to preserve the ammunitions.

[@NathanielStauber]

You would certainly think American Petroleum Institute rifle cartridges would have more of an effect on gasoline. Thank you for helping us understand what these rounds can do, and thanks to John for sending them in!

[@jic1]

I think when the Soviets made them they would likely have been intended to be fired from a machine gun rather than a bolt-action rifle, and therefore would have had a much greater chance to start a fire.

[@jannejohansson3383]

When you pierce enemy's head, it dosen't matter do it burn or not later that.

[@baarum]

I don't know where and how you picked this guy up, but he's got the right amount of TFM snark and fits just right in. Another great video, keep it up. P.S. I'm addicted to cosmoline too

[@taofledermaus]

Thank you for the feedback and kind words.

[@snarky_user]

More snark is always appreciated.

[@th.burggraf7814]

I like Ryan's humor, and he's a good shot as well. Had a great time watching this video. 👌🏻👍🏻

[@taofledermaus]

thank you!

[@dieseldavidson2671]

Nice job Ryan like to see more of you

[@KingAnarchist]

@@taofledermausYep, I like this guy. He’s good on camera, very relaxed and entertaining.

[@berniedanjou8158]

Hello from France... Wahou good discovery... It seem's percing armor and explosive bullet (black nose ''percing'' and red circle ''explosive''). Thanks for this vidéo. See you soon

[@taofledermaus]

Awesome! thanks

[@john_in_phoenix]

My father gave me some packaged exactly like that, only 1951 (and actual Finnish manufacturer) with brass cases. It was for a 1903 Springfield, and in considerably better condition. Fired just fine 30 years ago. He bought it shortly after the Korean war.

[@jic1]

That's interesting, I didn't know that Finland used any military small arms chambered in .30-06. Or did they use the same packaging for civilian ammo?

[@rustleshackleford1553]

You definitely don't get content like this every day, truly outstanding!👍👍

[@taofledermaus]

Wow, thanks

[@sasquatch440]

double crimped primer, that means it was intended for the ShKAS machine gun. more than likely came out of a wrecked/downed soviet aircraft

[@wolfgagger]

they wouldn't keep boxes like that in an airplane...

[@sasquatch440]

@@wolfgagger if you payed attention during the video the ammo was 1939/1940 russian made, repackaged by the Finns in 1944 (who put them in the boxes )

[@MrTruckerf]

Cool!

[@wolfgagger]

@@sasquatch440 its the way you worded it saying, it came out of, i was thinking you actually meant it as in the box

[@MrMiggoH]

Yeah the packaging says it's rifle ammo but it's actually russian machine gun ammo. According to wikipedia not to be shot by a rifle but what do they know.

[@machinegunfrank661]

armor piercing incendiary black over red

[@StrangerOman]

Ryan is a fine gentleman, good with his words, fine shooter. Hope we can see him more on a range with more exotic ammo. Man, life is like a box of old ammo. You never know what you get. API, what a flashy treat. And what a nice bonus at the end! Amazing stuff.

[@taofledermaus]

thanks!

[@headhuterdk]

Loved Ryan killing it with his marksmanship! And he was also funny. Appreciate the content ❤

[@scrotiemcboogerballs1981]

From what I googled it says those are armor piercing incendiary rounds or api like you said lol love the measurements of freedom in hamburgers lol my kind of figures lol awesome video those rounds did great for the age the fire ring was awesome too thanks for sharing

[@SpencerShirey1998]

Yea. Vintage WW2 Russian made API

[@VashStarwind]

I thought it was incendiary also. Makes sense, red stripe for incendiary, black stripe for armor piercing, probably some awesome ammo once upon a time. Probably better to shoot it while it still works than to just let it rot away also.

[@SpencerShirey1998]

@@VashStarwind Yep. API, Armor Piercing, incendiary

[@mikeblair2594]

I really want this guy to come back more often. He's just damn funny

[@taofledermaus]

Thanks for the kind words

[@Chaotyk-Official]

@@taofledermaus wow I wud keep those WW2 pre Nagasaki rounds

[@davedave9552]

Definitely a young Dom DeLuise

[@tomhandel9176]

Lots of fun shooting old specialty ammo but most if not all ammo from that era was mercuric primed, I believe, so better clean that Mosin well. Great video though!

[@cameronlamb7274]

Anyone shooting surplus ammo should already know this.

[@vicroc4]

Not sure about Eastern European ammo, but the US moved away from mercury fulminate as they transitioned to brass cartridges. The mercury residue had a nasty effect on the brass, so another primer compound using potassium chlorate was developed. Now, the advice of cleaning your gun immediately after a range session still applies with chlorate primers. One of the combustion products of potassium chlorate is potassium chloride. Potassium chloride is hygroscopic, meaning that it absorbs water from the air. And having water and a salt in close proximity to your steel barrel means rust. That's why chlorate-based primers are known as "corrosive" primers, because they will rust your barrel if their residue isn't cleaned out shortly after your shooting session. Edit: I do know that the US was one of the last countries to move away from chlorate based primers. Commercial ammunition didn't stop using chlorate until the 1950s.

[@cameronlamb7274]

@@vicroc4 soviet countries still used corrosive primers into the 70’s atleast and most British made .303 into ww2 was corrosive.

[@vicroc4]

@@cameronlamb7274 Thanks for the clarification. Like I said, I knew that most Western countries had made the shift by the 1950s, but I had no idea about the Soviets or their sphere of influence.

[@cameronlamb7274]

@@vicroc4 I don’t believe it was a mercuric priming compound theirs other compounds that were also corrosive.

[@heywardmorgan7699]

What a treat, like seeing the old ammo demos, this one was especially interesting with the spicy rounds from the past. Thinking if the bag had been ballooned out so the vapor could fill more space, you may have gotten a little different result, but it's just a SWAG (scientific wild ass guess 😂) as always, enjoyed and will be looking forward to more from the mind of Jeff and the TFM crew.

[@leadfoot8593]

Need the right sir/fuel ratio.

[@mikeblair2594]

I love armor piercing incendiary rounds! Anything that makes nice holes while simultaneously exploding is just fabulous!!!!!

[@zman1508]

I hate that I hardly get recommended your videos anymore Tao Still love to see em. Was talking rockets with people from work and we all watched your Gyrojet video.

[@taofledermaus]

I think YT has been stomping on us for most of this year.

[@zman1508]

I unsubbed and resubbed hoping that works. Keep up the good content.

[@timo1218]

Along with the 'regular' exotic shotgun slug content, I and probably a lot of people also really like these videos about old exotic rifle ammunition! Thanks for the video :)

[@taofledermaus]

thanks!

[@terryobrien308]

Ryan and OG have the same type of humor. Thanks for making this video. The old ammo was performance was interesting

[@taofledermaus]

thanks!!

[@jormalonnberg1578]

I did not see best before date in that package. Did You?? 😎

[@chris_is_here_oh_no]

Amazing video, incredible rare ammo find! These were some great results.

[@MmMerrifield]

I'm glad that that bird off in the distance made it out okay!

[@matthewtaylor3308]

14:11

[@heaven-is-real]

The red black color markings must mean it is an armor piercing incendiary (api) round.

[@walqu]

Great video! really enjoyed seeing some rifle content as an Scandinavian. In addition, I use a Mauser K98F as my main rifle and it was extra fun to see content so closely related to my own firearm. Loved the content, the humour and the bullets.

[@taofledermaus]

thank you Audun

[@simennilsen5457]

Finland is not Scandinavian

[@Leverguns50]

That was really interesting, I really appreciate you guys expanding the old emerald that way all for the love of science, right, anyhow, I appreciate it

[@taofledermaus]

thank you!

[@davida267]

I would love to see Ryan back, he fit right in beautifully

[@billyhess5263]

Another…banger…of a video! Ryan is great, I thoroughly enjoy his humor!

[@taofledermaus]

thanks Billy

[@q5echo154]

Someone has been hangin around Officer Gregg for about a decade too long.

[@robertsmith4681]

i would have expected Finnish D stuff to be heavy ball and not API, when it comes to dented cases, very common with combloc copper washed steel cased ammo, still goes bang and fireforms itself straight when you fire them, no biggie, if it seat it yeets.

[@Mister_E.]

I knew this guy would be back. What a personality! I'm still laughing about the Cole's Law joke he made after shooting the cabbage.

[@LexCinnabon]

Amazing video! I have a few of these rounds I want to test. You got some great footage!

[@taofledermaus]

thanks!

[@Carpythesharky]

"This is Tula ammo, a weapon to surpass Metal Gear" I love this guy!

[@SuperGorillaGlue]

Kentucky ballistics would be proud of the table destruction

[@daneil_center_rides5121]

These are explosive target accusation rounds. Often used by snipers since they caused devastation

[@bobjordan8283]

Now that was awesome! Thank you for your hard work!

[@taofledermaus]

thanks Bob

[@Smallathe]

Very cool testing of old ammo!!! Nice shooting and wonderful slow motion. Great video guys.

[@taofledermaus]

thanks Saar

[@williamhudson4938]

I love my Mosin 91. It looked like it had been dipped in crankcase oil for storage. The receiver was marked as being made by SAKO and with Chinese surplus ammo it will stay on an old Copenhagen can at 100 yds. Fun times.

[@gscapinelli9214]

Amazing video guys, as always. Great guest, too

[@taofledermaus]

thanks!!

[@tommyking2344]

Very cool video. One of my favorite channels. Keep up the great work guys

[@taofledermaus]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@richardhartley5210]

Those “Black Tips” are something else.., loving the fire ring and it looks like the smoke produced by the “detonation” is coming back through the ring as the energy is blasted back off the plate.😎

[@gotindrachenhart]

There's a difference between the two steels used. Mild steel is more of a general purpose round for when the rounds might have to defeat mild cover or obstacles like bushes or interior walls or doors and worn equipment. The hardened steel used in AP rounds is for just that, armor. Pretty cool video! Those clouds and fire rings are amazing!

[@ohiphotopro]

44 is still a year out from beating Germany, so yes they would be picking up used shells and sending them back to be remanufactured. Great find. Hoping to find some of these someday.

[@nigelsmith7366]

Wrong sorry mate it is captured Russian ammo... Finland was at war with Russia during ww2

[@jic1]

@@nigelsmith7366 Not only were they at war with Russia, but they were *allied* with Nazi Germany.

[@ohiphotopro]

just to clarify my previous comment, peace between Russia and Findland was announced on March 1, 1944. If this box was remanufactured on May 25, 1944, it is very likely that components made their way to Findland through Russia, in the effort to defeat Germany, that would not happen for another year. April 25, 1945 last bit of German Army pushed out of Findland, and on May 2, 1945 Germany unconditionally surrendered. Conditions in USSR were very rough throughout the war, and it makes complete sense that soldiers would be ordered to pickup any spent cases to be reloaded. I do believe that factory production of ammunition continued throughout the war as well in evacuated factories (my memory may be failing me, but I remember seeing one sealed tin of 54r dated from around that time). I apologise if I got any of this wrong, but I always was interested in this topic, because my grandfather was one of the managing directors of one of many evacuated factories, and my father was born during the evacuation in 1942. I wish more people would remember unimaginable cost of war.

[@jic1]

@@ohiphotopro That's not true either, a ceasefire was called on the 5th of September 1944, and the Continuation War formally ended with an armistice on the 19th of that month. Also the ammunition doesn't seem to be "remanufactured", merely repackaged, as evidenced by the country of manufacture being stated as Russia. And when this ammunition was repackaged in May of that year, the war was very much still ongoing.

[@TheAfroengineer]

Love the videos like always and like the new guy Ryan just the right bit of wit .

[@jonathanbrocklehurst6724]

14:19 a visit from a real life fladermaus. Did no one else see the bat? Love your work Jeff

[@jameslowe3792]

Nice...API rounds, love the video Jeff.

[@taofledermaus]

thanks Jim!

[@markburke2533]

I really enjoyed this show, thanks!

[@taofledermaus]

thanks Mark!

[@tonydabaloney]

Really enjoyed this one. Hope you invite him back again. Like a younger OG. Those rounds were spectacular! I'd hate to get shot with one and have it hit the titanium wire holding my chest together. Be quite a shock ,to say the least. Boom, "Hello St. Peter!"

[@Dilz6669]

Jeff: "Yeah, I try to make these tables last as long as I can." KB Scott: 😏 Great video as usual. Enjoying Ryan's humor.

[@squishy312]

There's a reason the Finns were pretty much unstoppable during the Winter War. Sisu, along with special treats like these. They were very tactical with everything they did.

[@alwolf2325]

OG's kid brother is a great addition.

[@ryansmithza]

It was fun to see some new rounds going down range! Thanks for the interesting video. I suspect that the petrol(lol, didn't expect that) soak rag was protected from the sparks by the plastic bag. Perhaps itf it were inthe open it might have caught light.

[@Del_licious]

Very cool video. Thanks for sharing, as I doubt this content exists or will exist anywhere else. It might be nice to keep 1 or 2 rounds unfired as examples, but shooting them on video, and with high speed like you did I think is the most valuable. My local range doesn't allow steel-containing projectiles for the fire hazard, but not necessarily because they're "armor piercing." I once asked about some new production TulAmmo, .308, steel or iron-alloy ("bi-metal") jacketed bullets (I believe they're lead core, and some kind of zinc-iron alloy for the jacket) that I wanted to test out, and they explained that they don't allow any projectiles that hold a magnet (i.e. contain iron) because it could potentially spark against a rock downrange and cause a fire.

[@damienthomas6655]

i like the new guy,,he is petty funny like Greg!

[@thesnipercat6792]

Man I love Ryan's sense of humor 😂. Imagine having him and OG in a video. Please Jeff! 😂❤

[@moparedtn]

Good job Ryan and Jeff. I did the Mosin and 54R thing back when it was cool; it always amazed me the rather crude looking surplus ammo always worked. That said, I must admit I didn't enjoy shooting the thing much at all. Wound up selling it for double what I paid for it (less costs associated with initial cleaning off of cosmoline, of course), so I guess "been there, done that" will have to suffice. Feel better soon, Jeff! - Ed on the Ridge

[@taofledermaus]

thank you Ed!

[@stevenashworth9582]

Jeff sometimes words are hard. Very well done. Very educational thank you

[@taofledermaus]

lol th;anks

[@majogl188]

You got a real gem there... Those are russian API rounds used everywhere, from bolt actions, through LMGs to aircraft armaments... The telltale flash on impact is the incendiary part detonating and the color coding on the tip is consistent... Love this! Google (since i cant put in links) 7.62x57mmR B-32 (7-BZ-3) EDIT: oh nvm, kept watching, and this info is in the video after all xD

[@scousewillo62]

WOW, those 80+ year old API rounds where not messing about. Fantastic content as usual and I love Ryan's humour. I would not feel safe having those shot at me even in a period APC or light tank. It would be interesting to know how much performance they have lost if any over those 80/90 years.

[@taofledermaus]

thanks Roy!!

[@kilojeromesmith4488]

What a great video guys. Keep ‘em coming please 😊

[@taofledermaus]

thank you

[@warrenharrison9490]

Great video, thanks Ryan, Mark and of course Jeff 👍

[@taofledermaus]

Thanks 👍

[@1959Edsel]

Ryan's delivery is perfect for the presentation of the boxes.

[@coalminer6278]

I’m sure some else may have suggested this, the vapor needs to be around the application-programmable-interface(😂) impact for ignition! Love your videos!!

[@wilsonrawlin8547]

Excellent shooting and testing. Love that API ammo for sure.

[@HereticalKitsune]

John's doing some good camera work there! Confident, clear speech, I like it!

[@cycoholic]

Those rounds were amazing for how old they are. And those fire rings were cool. 👍

[@taofledermaus]

thanks!

[@Nick-rs5if]

These are old Russian BZ-bullets. (B-32 / 7-BZ-3 by the looks of it) Essentially just Armour-Piercing Incendiary, or API. They were in production from 1932 to 1969. I'm frankly amazed they still ran so smoothly after all these years. I wish I knew how the Finns got their hands on these pearls, I bet that'd be quite the story! 😄 EDIT: Spelling, English is not my native language... 😂👍

[@taofledermaus]

edit: you could have fooled ME! lol

[@jic1]

Sadly, I think the story would probably be fairly boring: 'We shot some Russians and took them.'

[@keaganison4637]

haha loved Ryan! my kind of humor! I love this channel 100%

[@taofledermaus]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@josuelservin]

What a treat! Really enjoyed this one, those are some spicy rounds!

[@DJJ81]

I mean…. API round?

[@noonehere1793]

Are you sure they were not just picked up off the battlefield in the Ukraine last week?

[@DUKE_of_RAMBLE]

I hate to be that guy, but since Ukraine is a singular, sovereign country, you do not say "the" Ukraine; it has not been "the Ukraine [oblast]" since 1992 when it ceased being part of Russia. 😊 Same with it being pronounced "Keev" (Kyiv) and not "Key-yev" (Kiev). They deserve our respect in this regard, as they've *_certainly_* earned it! 💙💛 _(sorry if this comes across like me being an asshole, not my intention)_

[@hungryburger1170]

That would imply they got munitions in the first place

[@cuntontheweb2657]

​@@hungryburger1170 GERASIMMOV, SHOIGU? WHERE IS THE AMMUNITION?? -Yevgeni Prigozhin 2023

[@randyadams03]

Yeah, the DPR cherish they're up to date Mosin-nagant Dragoon. 🤣🤣🤣

[@jmyd83]

Yes but at Great Expense to the US Tax Payers 😂

[@up4open763]

I would suggest that steel is less likely to lose energy due to deformation, and the risk is not as much penetrative power, as it is ricochet. I would also suggest that years of passing down, "don't shoot with steel because it can go where you don't expect it," got turned into "don't shoot steel cause it can go through to where you don't expect it." I felt horrible watching you open that treasure, and yet I'm so impressed those rounds worked so well, and glad you documented their use.

[@robertwest3093]

"My name is Ryan and I'm addicted to Cosmoline" Please have this man on more often!

[@dcrog69]

Now yall got me craving 80+ year old Finnish surplus cheese.

[@humdinger5701]

Glad to see Ryan come back. He fits in nicely.

[@taofledermaus]

Thank you for the kind feedback

[@nicloewenhagen5557]

Really cool thanks again for all the videos! And thank you Ryan for shooting!

[@taofledermaus]

thanks!!

[@kriztov265]

Enough of those " Altitude Programable Interceptors " going through a vehicle soon enough something is gonna go boom. Fantastic images, thankyou for taking the risk.

[@taofledermaus]

thanks!

[@DJTheMetalheadMercenary]

Gnarly! Too cool guys, good stuff!

[@Erikreaver]

Surplus APIs are always an interesting bag. One interesting thing that was also made is a pistol (and smg) API rounds that were made for 7,62x25! Getting my hands on a few of 'em. :) Also, loving the shirt of the shooter!

[@FrankMuchnok]

The TV show "MythBusters" did an episode on the Hollywood meme of cars exploding every time when hit with a bullet. It turns out gas tanks aren't that easy to blow up. First off, the off-gassed vapors burn, not the contained liquid fuel inside the tank. Then you need the proper oxygen content for the vapors to ignite. I think that during war time air combat the first shots would puncture the tank and following incendiary rounds ignited the vapors from the leaking fuel. Another entertaining video. Good job guys ! ** And so much for "crappy" Soviet ammo.

[@highoctanehotrod]

Non-AP steel core is used to improve barrier blindness, not because it’s cheaper than lead. Mild steel core isn’t AP but it does improve penetration of non-armor barriers such as windows and sheet metal on vehicles. Also steel core is prohibited on almost all indoor ranges, not because of its penetrating capabilities but because it can generate sparks that can ignite unburnt powder that can accumulate on the floor of indoor ranges.

[@jic1]

Note that we are talking about Soviet-produced ammunition from the WWII era, cost and availability of materials was almost undoubtedly the primary factor. The Germans made sintered iron 9mm rounds for the same reasons.

[@highoctanehotrod]

@@jic1 I don’t think the Germans use of sintered iron was a cost saving measure as much as it was a prioritization of supply use during war. Lead was required in the making of batteries. My point was generally a steel core can have benefits outside of cost, and in most cases steel is more expensive than lead and making a steel Cored projectile adds another level of complexity to the manufacturing process. Just my opinion.

[@Enterstyx]

I remember seeing an old soviet manual that had info on shooting this type of ammo through mosins. It was known to jam bolts shut. If this happened, the manual instructed you to place the rifle on the ground, put one foot on the stock, and kick the bolt till it opens.

[@josephpecoul6532]

Every now and then you come across a video you missed. Thanks Jeff. And Richard.

[@taofledermaus]

Glad you found it!

[@F_L_U_X]

I love this dude. He's funny. I'd love to see more of him and maybe a live stream party with him, Jeff, OG, Bri, young Danny? Eh? EH?! And do a tarp giveaway live on stream with everyone's autograph on it.

[@lanedexter6303]

Wow, fun test! I’m impressed by that 80+ year old ammo. Great velocity, always lit off when it hit, great penetration. You could take this stuff to war.😁

[@taofledermaus]

thank you Lane

[@chrisleach4245]

14:11 I don’t know what kind of birds you have but that’s a big one flying from left to right through the smoke.😮❤

[@quaidsix8761]

"About twice as thick as the last one, which is how I like them."

[@MrIrondog55]

Good to See Ryan on the channel again, love his subtle sense of humour. Glad he had some fun playing with some "SPICY" vintage rounds! Greg, Mae, Ryan & Brianna video needs to happen. Maybe an anniversary special or something. :)

[@taofledermaus]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@henrikchristensen6314]

Steel core ammo is also a no go on indoor ranges because of the increased risk of sparks that might ignite the powder residue that is everywhere on a range floor

[@billtheunjust]

Also, I bet it's easier to ban all steel core rather than expect everyone to know the different types of steel core. If the range has steel targets they probably don't want to deal with potential increased wear on the plates, or possible ricochet.

[@erroneous6947]

It’s also common for the jacket to come off the bullet and the steel core to bounce back at you. So be careful shooting steel core on steel plates.

[@ticket2space]

Wow! Great stuff man. Love the attitude too you got a new guy here to stay 🤙

[@taofledermaus]

thanks!

[@AlienLivesMatter]

Really thorough assortment of tests. Great small details that reflect a range of circumstances likely to be encountered

[@taofledermaus]

Thank you!

[@WhenTheManComesAround]

This gent reminds me so much of some of the best engineers ive ever worked with. Great vid 👍

[@taofledermaus]

thank you!!

[@hard4hardware]

I believe a tank of gasoline would ignite if hit by application programming interface rounds because of the compression and heat. Also O.G.'s hairy daughter is great on camera. Loved the video and thank you for sharing the results captured in such high detail!