Is An Ancient Civilization Sunk Below the Azores?

Like the Nazis it inspired, seems like you can never keep Atlantis down for long enough.
This isn't really a rare earth episode but given that the Azorean season was about myths and the comments on our previous videos all broke my brain, here we are. A little Wednesday realism in a cynical tone. I guess it is Rare Earth after all.
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[@RareEarthSeries]

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[@franciscoacevedo3036]

You should do a Collab with atún shei he made a video about Ignatius Donnelly and Atlantis and this pseudo science crap he also made one about n4zis and crackpot archeology

[@WriteInAaronBushnell]

Release a version of this video that's only 0:06 long, that cuts to black

[@daviddavison5113]

@@franciscoacevedo3036 kzbin.info/www/bejne/eISXapp5iN-UrJI link to atun shei video. I was going to say the same as you until I saw your comment.

[@hamstarr100]

the idea of the ubermensch has legs, small groups of men have defied the odds over and over again eg sparta, venice, Rome, Jews overcoming larger enemies

[@rodrigopazin]

Thank you so much. I am beginning my grad. paper on pseudoscience (+ effects on law and policy making) and this video seems like it will help me a great deal. Do you have any bibliography/reading to recommend?

[@katethegoat7507]

I propose a reverse Atlantis myth: A city once prospered in a valley, till -whoosh! a mountain suddenly appeared under it. Some say the city is still in orbit.

[@vee1267]

An entire city got the JoJo-Kars treatment. I love it lmao

[@1sdani]

That city was named Shandora.

[@dopaminecloud]

I'm pretty sure that happened in final fantasy 3

[@merrittanimation7721]

The poor Atlanteans were threatened by the evil Athens and their supposed political purity.

[@normanclatcher]

Avengers, Age of Ultron.

[@dalstein3708]

So... Plato came up with this Atlantis story because he wanted to Make Athens Great Again, as it were?

[@_loser_on_line_]

Damn... Echoes from the past became barbarians of the future.

[@sosukelele]

Something about the more things change the more they stay the same

[@HeWhoShams]

@@_loser_on_line_ I see where you stand. Never understood why people think ANY form of Nationalism is a terrible thing. Why would we, as citizens, not want a leader that truly wants their country to be the best it can be? They claim it's got ties to that of the German party of the 1930-1940s but that's just a copout.

[@theoriesbanana]

@@HeWhoShams was not expecting a "not all natonalists" guy in the comments of rare earth. I dont think youre the target audience here man

[@ericcloud1023]

Lol exactly it was literally just some guys Fan-fiction of how super cool and awesome his city was....and those Egyptians, Babylonian & Persians better show some respect. Literally caries as much weight historically as the story of Hercules

[@robdavies82]

When I went there in 2018, there’s a 3D model of the islands located in a glass display at Ponta Delgada airport to show how they look with all the water removed. There’s also a hire car company there called Atlantis

[@fingersm]

The was an "atlantis" taxi company in Toronto once upon

[@madxico]

@@fingersm So that shows it was indeed in Canada! :D that´s the spirit!

[@BigPoppaSmokes]

@@fingersmhere in Reno we have a hotel called Atlantis

[@GizzyDillespee]

Uber will defeat THOSE Atlanteans. The REAL Atlantis pleasure palace is in the Bahamas! Don't forget to hit the slots on your way to the pai gao tables

[@rubenskiii]

There might be an explanation to where Plato got his Atlantis story from: A lot of ancient stories and myth have roots that go deep far back in time, oral mythicalised, altered, half-forgotten and half-made-up tellings of core stories people would have told eachother for generations. It’s not a coincidence some of the most well-known stories are proven to be quite unceremoniously copied from older people’s stories. Think of the Biblical Flood Story being basically a rip-off of The Telling of Uta-Napishti(ark story) and parts of the Illiad and Oddysee having parts that are remarkably similar to the Epic of Gilgamesh. People always love a good story. And some stories are so good they never died. They get adopted, incorporated, copied but just slightly altered to feature “their own” people instead of “their people”. Such are humans. In Plato’s day the story of “Atlantis” probably was as ancient to him as a copper adze might be to us. “Evidence” for this can be found in how Plato treats the story: it’s a verhicle to further his own story, political influence and financial well-being probably. He uses the story in such a way that it might tell us that it was a well-understood story, hence why he could almost use it in metaphoric way. But what do i base _my_ hypothesis or better said, wild guess on? Back in the ice age a lot of land was dry, more than there is now. All the water being stored in iceform did a number on global sealevels. People lived on the land that is now sea. Hell, even to this day fisherman in my country(the Netherlands) find bones of animals mostly but also human remains in such abundance that at some point it was considered almost as waste. Dead weight in every sense that you had to bring to shore but couldn’t eat. Throwing it back would mean giving yourself the same headache later. Nowadays ofcourse it’s much more important because of science but it’s still there on the seafloor that was once land in such abundance that if you would ask some fishermen nicely they would give you a stone tool. That’s how i got one. That ended at one point, quite rapidly from what archeological evidence for example can tell us. This must have left an impression on the people. The impacts where felt wide and affar, it helps to realize that before this event the Mediterranean wasn’t connected to the ocean. The melting ice did that, not so gentle according to people who know geology better than i do. That must have left a deep, deep mark. And what verhicles of remembrance and respect did people have then? Oral tradition. Thus i think this created stories based on a deep, deep rooted fear for land that you where born on, lived on, hunted on and expected to die on quite suddenly disappearing under the waves. An intense, almost primal story that lived on and on, even when memories faded and it became oral history, then myth, then legend and at last, history. If anyone read all of this i am genuinely surprised and impressed, because this comment must be longer than Even’s script and probably made a lot less sense too. Obvious caviat: i am in no way trying to prove that _well akshually_ Atlantis is real. No, i am just trying to give people something to think about, about why the stories of sunken cities and world ending floods stay with us so well. I mean, i am Dutch. We quite litteraly made it our thing to tame Posseidon. But yet these stories live, even here. Sometimes those faults in the software are wonderful, showing that we are indeed humans and not purely logical meat computers. There must be a maximum amount of words a KZbin comment is allowed to have but still haven’t found. But i have said enough. Enjoy your day all, kind greetings.

[@lt.kettch4652]

There are a lot of “tribal myths” that can be attributed to the end of the younger dryas period of time, similarly to what you are saying.

[@sciptick]

Today we know that the flood myths originate well _before_ the seas began rising some 20,000 years ago. But between ~20,000 and ~13,000 years ago, they did rise 40 meters, and then between ~13,000 and ~8000 another 80 meters, drowning Doggerland in the North Sea, an unnamed land south and west of the old Indus River civilization, the Persian Gulf downstream from Mesopotamia, what we call Sahul between New Guinea and Australia, and Sundaland now under the South China and Java Seas, and the sea off China from Korea all the way to Viet Nam. Australians still maintain careful oral records of conflicts when people were forced inland from Sahul. But we are now certain of a comet strike ~12,800 years ago over North America that set the whole continent ablaze, starting 30+ genera of megafauna toward extinction. That fire's smoke is locked unmistakeably in Antarctic ice. We may never know whether the strike caused the 1200-year Younger Dryas cold spell, or if it was an unlucky coincidence. Cataclysmic flooding in eastern Washington State and in the Altai region of Asia, emptying tens of cubic km of water in a matter of days, might coincide with the strike, or might not.

[@Costa_Conn]

@@sciptick A publication by Marlon et al PNAS (2009) "Wildfire responses to abrupt climate change in North America", found no evidence for a single catastrophic fire event. Instead charcoal analysis (n =35, all across the US), from a 2,000 yr span, suggested an increase in wildfire due to global warming.

[@SamBs]

Without disagreeing with the point of the video, we should also recognize that what we know and believe our academic knowledge currently demonstrates, does not mean it is a permanent absolute, especially when it comes to history. As an example, we can look at Troy. Although Homer's story was known and read for hundreds+ of years, it was believed to be entirely mythical and academically we believed that it was certain that Troy had never existed. Yet, due to human persistence and curiosity we now know that Troy, as a settlement/city, did in fact exist. Although the Trojan war/Greek attacks on the city cannot be proven and were once believed to be entirely false, we now know that at least the city did in fact exist. That is why, although we should not believe every single aspect of the historical accounts and modern revisions of Altantis, we should most likely remain open and curious about whether or not a place known as Atlantis ever existed. In the video you seem to ridicule the idea of Atlantis by explaining parts of its creation/origin myth, yet many of the cities we know and live in have comparatively ridiculous creation myths (I.E. Rome, Athens).

[@Christian-lh7ux]

Like everytime, the truth lies somewhere between. I think the moral of the story is like you said. Keep open minded! But if we had learned something from the past than that we are probably wrong if we think that what we now know is absolute.

[@meisteremm]

Atlantis did once exist, but it lay directly between Ireland and Iceland and was ruled by a race of giant, hairy men who had the ability to turn invisible at will. We know these people as Sasquatch. Eventually, they concentrated this cloaking ability through a mind meld and not only turned their entire island invisible but also raised it up into the air past the arctic jet stream. So, really, Atlantis didn't sink but instead turned invisible and rose to the sky. I hope this explains things.

[@geridannels1701]

Wow, how do you know what your saying is true?

[@meisteremm]

@Geri Dannels Because the rulers of Atlantis told me their story through telepathy.

[@theULTIMATElife50]

So they are the Nox from Stargate SG-1?

[@tylerkasper7143]

I can confirm this as one Mr "Sasquatch" Sasquatch sat down to tea with me to uncover the whole story. We then talked about how the current inflation problem is really making it hard for him to keep his Atlantean toilet paper company in the black these days, and he might have to lay off some people before Squatchmas.

[@roddymcniven8734]

@@tylerkasper7143what happened to the cat?

[@danielschick7554]

If Futurama holds true, the lost city of Atlanta will be talked about in a 1,000 years.

[@NickDoddTV]

The best storytelling on KZbin hands down. Please don't ever stop!

[@NickDoddTV]

@@MuffJohnson he does research and tells good stories, IQ has nothing to do with it. He's very open about the fact he isn't always 100% accurate

[@NickDoddTV]

@@MuffJohnson ur so cool man. I'm so dumb

[@Wallach_a]

Agees

[@buggerall]

Yup, he's the god of storytelling... Oops.

[@fobbie8385]

All the videos you make are great. This is the one channel I share the videos from with my family because both my mom and my sister find them super interesting. Your way of explaining ideas has really inspired me to be more poetic with my language rather than saying things in a very plain way. I've sent your videos as in-class viewing materials to professors and I think they're a great style of documentary. I look forward to every new release!

[@Zanthorr]

Hey bro, what if the Atlantis myth was based off a real lost civilization? Rare Earth- "You're a nazi!"

[@RareEarthSeries]

"hey bro, what if the reason you even know the term atlantis at all was because it was an invention of nazi-era race mythology"

[@pengumpkin7993]

@@RareEarthSeries Why does it even matter how it was originally popularized? It is very clear that the idea of Atlantis and the modern ideas surrounding it have long since departed and diverged from nazi-era race mythology or anything similar to it.

[@Zanthorr]

@@RareEarthSeries Yeah I had no idea it was related to nazi's or anything like that. Honestly- you would make a waaay better docuseries than Hancock. Talking about cutting stone with sound waves lmao

[@RareEarthSeries]

Because the reason you're out on a search is that a person 150 years ago said you'd find racism in the forest. Now you're asking why you can't just search in the forest without it being connected to the people who sent you out searching. You can't remove a branch from the root. It only started branching because of that root. Being ignorant of why you're discussing something doesn't mean history didn't happen. It departed from the root in public terms, but by upholding this specific island under these specific circumstances you're unknowingly repeating exactly the thing they set you out to believe.

[@mumboslick89]

@@RareEarthSeries You honestly sound schizophrenic.

[@DanielVanDyck]

There's something about your story telling that is so compelling. Please never stop

[@SephOgreThe3rd]

I forgot who said it but your statement about utopias reminded me of this: "One person's utopia is another's hell." It helps to put idealization into perspective.

[@OsirusHandle]

Answering the title immediately gives me so much respect for you. Clickbait is silly but somewhat necessary but misleading people is just wrong. For humanities sake, keep up the amazing content!

[@Schmidtelpunkt]

Reminds me of a clickbaity title of Veritasium where the thumbnail itself showed the answer :-D

[@kaysb80]

As someone from a cold country, I appreciate how cold it must have been standing there in the snow with those shoes! Dedication!

[@Aqoric]

Another amazing video Evan! You consistently make some of the most insightful videos, I love your individual stories but these grander scale videos are simply unparalleled in their poetry and pertinence. The world is terrifying, the stories we make provide some solace in that especially in an age of refinement to a core set of truths but we cannot let them overtake reason and logic despite the uncomfortable nature of the world.

[@ThomasWhitakerFTW]

If Atlantis isn't real, how could they have put a Stargate there!?!? I loved the video, thanks for sharing with us!

[@merrittanimation7721]

Checkmate scientists! Stargate is the only indication of veracity I need.

[@goodluck5642]

That was faked like the moonlanding

[@pilote111]

what a great series

[@BrandanLee]

Johnnnn Shepparrrrrd

[@mariakelly90210]

I thought that the 2 Stargates on earth are located inside Cheyenne Mountain in Colorado USA and someplace on Antarctica.

Evan. As a christian who has faced the fact that his God exists because he need it to be so (call it spiritual clutches if you want, sometimes i need them, I just try not to force anybody to use them), and a uruguayan (thank you for your series on my country, I would loved if you visited further north) I want to thank you. Your work often helps me question my own beliefs. Plus I learn a lot from it. Thank you.

[@ryanwilson8323]

If only all Christians where like you I think atheists could put down the pitchforks❤

@@ryanwilson8323 well, I think that most of that feeling comes from the fact that we all want to be "right", to be special, and shout it out. Funny enough, one of the most profound lessons I learned studying the bible was that whenever one thinks is right, then it's probably wrong (meaning that we can never fully understand the divine will), but too often I found people absolutely sure about their own interpretation. Of course that means I'm also "not right"

[@johnny_my_penls_is_small_but]

@ Argentinian here (Hola!). I myself don't believe in the Christian God (or any gods for that matter), but the way you worded your explanation on why you believe on God was really explanatory. It's true that a lot of people just want to spite each other or achieve some sort of superiority over religion (and politics!), but if everyone respected the opinions and beliefs of others as you do I believe this would be a much better world.

[@rickkwitkoski1976]

@@ryanwilson8323 Which atheists? What pitchforks? Atheists care nothing about religion or your "belief"! Just don't attempt to foist or force your "belief" off on those who don't want it.

[@ryanwilson8323]

@@rickkwitkoski1976 religion is like a penis, it’s cool to have one, you can play with it all you like in your house, but please don’t show it in public. I guess science is now in the same boat. Happy new year to you.

[@DiMono]

I've always viewed Plato's story of Atlantis as a thought experiment. I suspected the "perfect concentric rings" design was intended to be a clue to such. What's always bugged me about people talking unironically about "finding Atlantis" is that they're talking about finding a place that Plato invented out of whole cloth, and if they'd just do ten seconds of research they'd realize that, but they never do because the truth is inconvenient to their narrative. It's unfortunate.

[@DiMono]

@@groundcontrol-888 Literally any literary source. Even Wikipedia knows, with the very first sentence beginning "Atlantis is a fictional island mentioned in Plato's works" (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantis)

[@norlockv]

A belated Christmas gift from Evan and Co. This is one of your best monologues.

[@ponyote]

Can i just say how much I love your sense of humor? It's very clear to me that you and your father share that. And I'm here for that.

[@chrisvaiuso6010]

Another great video. Was all that beautiful B-roll of green hills and waterfalls from the Azores?

[@RareEarthSeries]

Yes, it's all Azorean

[@johncollins211]

Platos story is most likely made up. But the idea that there were neolithic cities on some islands in the atlantic doesnt seem that crazy.

[@thomastoscano3152]

I watched 5 of your videos in a row and time flew so fast! It's way more than cool stories or interesting places. Your storytelling is amazing, one I wish to achieve one day, as I myself aspire to write about our world in an non obvious way, in an artistic way, as you do. Thank you for inspiring me to keep going. Your videos made my day!

[@beatrizscatolin5201]

this is so sweet! I felt the same, Thomas!

[@psykosmach6132]

That episode trully enphasize what I love about that channel! Thanks for your hard work!

[@IVIRnathanreilly]

Every time it seems to come down to people lying for one reason or another (usually for personal gain) about something that originally may have existed at some time. There may have been a kingdom that sank below the sea, everything else is however much more unlikely.

[@Miycu]

There are multiple sunken cities in the med alone. It's one of the things that helps make sure it's atlantis that endures and not some other myth.

[@nathnathn]

Like one of candidates “can’t remember the name” was an actual advanced “for the time” island nation but their island died with a volcanic eruption and honestly if the island/nations gone the next time they show up in that time period they’ll assume it sunk.

[@Jhawk_2k]

Incredible. I feel like you made this video for me specifically, it's exactly what I needed to hear right now. I've been noticing the existential crisises that our society is seemingly conquering together right now, slowly

[@e1123581321345589144]

Here's my take on Atlantis. I read the works of Plato which mention Atlantis and it's quite obvious that he uses it as a supporting story to the point he was making. I think he based it on a real historical event, namely the invasion of the sea people from the west, during the bronze age collapse. During this time, all ancient civilizations in the mediteranian perished, with the exception of Egypt. The Egyptian were the only ones who defeated the sea peoples in history, but I think Plato just substituted them with Athens. Now from the invasion of the sea peoples to the life of Plato several centuries had passed. It's quite possible that the version of the story Plato heard was already embelished. After all, during these times very little was actually written and stories were passed on mostly by oral transmission.

[@PlatinumAltaria]

The problem with that is "there was a city that got conquered" isn't enough of a grain of truth to be meaningful. That could apply to any time and place in history. Nobody feels the need to claim that 1984 is a literally true story, so I have no idea why Atlantis needs to be real.

[@e1123581321345589144]

@@PlatinumAltaria it doesn't need to be real m8. I'm just analyzing the origin of the story. Nobody knows where the sea people came from, and as for the name "Atlantis", well that's clearly Greek, so most likely Plato came up it himself.

[@merrittanimation7721]

​@@e1123581321345589144 The issue isn't "was Atlantis real or not" the issue is we don't have enough evidence to suggest what inspired Plato in particular. The story of the Sea Peoples is similar to Critias's tale, yes, but so is Thera. And more contemporary events like the Persian Wars, the destruction of Helike, or even Athens own failed invasion of Sicily (One of the speakers, Hemocrates, was even integral to the last one). Was Plato inspired by those or merely making a parallel? We can't know for certain. But the point is there's no way of knowing what inspired Plato in particular.

[@kevinkeegan4817]

@@merrittanimation7721 Check out the channel Bright Insight. Jimmy does thorough job of making the case that Atlantis was located at the Richat structure in Africa.

[@colewintringham5609]

@@e1123581321345589144 Also it should be recognized that Plato was an excellent writer who used his tales to critique the society around him. Perhaps having Atlantis be this unconfirmable thing was simply to add plausible deniability? After all he wasn't critiquing "Athens" or any other Greek city but "Atlantis" - any similarities between Atlantean society and Greek society are "clearly coincidental" . Like how any similarities between the islands in Gulliver's Travels and the European powers were "coincidental".

[@geridannels1701]

Thank you for the upload, it was fantastic!

[@thomasmrkeby6488]

There are so many places that somehow seem connected and since it is hard to date rock, they remain undated. Then again the environment tells a tale, placement, context, known history and also some of the rocks themself seems to be molded and made as a geopolymer. And I hardly think Hancock has spearheaded this, this has a long story with many people from independant to nonindependant researchers.

[@shApYT]

Great video. Please make more of these videos on bigger stories like these.

[@redlefevre5448]

Outstanding video, very thought provoking. You're videos are definitely reaching new levels.

[@Jellybizzy]

weird vibes on this vid...

[@alexv3357]

"But while God might be dead, every corpse feed fungus, and in his ripe night soil stepped out a new order of believer." That straight up sounds like a quote from George R. R. Martin

[@TheDeadlyDan]

My own rule around rabbit holes; If you do go in, but don't see rabbits . . . you're not in a rabbit hole. When mythology becomes Mythology, it's intent is to remember. The myths we're creating right now will never convey what actually happened, despite our best efforts. As a species, we're very much prone to mold that memory into our social structure to convey our story instead. After even one molding, the original memory is gone. Fully 3/4 of the planet firmly believes some magic fairy or another from some other realm sits on their shoulder and guides them through life. And we fully accept each and every one of those religions. We don't ridicule them, despite them having changed those 'beliefs' over the same time to reflect their own time, ethics, and interactions. None of our legends, myths, or parables remain true to the original. It's how people work. Plato did the very same thing Hancock and Carlson are doing - taking mythology and altering it to fit his message. More than likely, the Egyptians also molded whatever they understood as the myth into their own cultural parables. The worst issue around Atlantis is that you DO see a few rabbits in the Plato Dialogues. Mythology is based in forgotten events and altered through time, but tidbits can remain. It's most helpful to stop thinking of ice age humans as cave men. None of the three or four species of human around at the time really lived in caves. Most of the remains found in cave environments have been left there after animals gnawed the last of the gristle off the bone. That date thing as well. It does seem strange that it points directly at Meltwater Pulse 1B, which was 80 or so meters rise in less than a year for most of the globe. Recent excavations off the coast at Atlit show the sudden flooding of communities along the shores of the Mediterranean, which over 9,000 years ago had domesticated crops and animals integrated into a fully modern city. People have always lived along the coasts, and we've always lived in communities, villages, and towns and we've always traded with far off groups of similar communities. For tens of thousands of years. What constitutes a civilization? We've always had the same civilization, it's just our level of technology that ebbs and flows.

[@LOOMIS1638]

I love your work man! This is one of your best. Thank you.

[@TheCookieCrisp]

This was phenomenal. The word structure and plot points are some of the best writing I've through thousands of films and across my many years of college. Well done.

[@stevejohnson3357]

Evan, like a lot of Rare Earth videos this focuses on the exact problem better than almost anything. We don't ever see our blind spots. We can't know everything and so we fill in the blanks with what we think should be and boy do we stink at that.

[@LoveFromAzores]

Hi From Azores ❤️ 🇵🇹

[@sneakyninja2773]

One of the best videos I've ever seen. Your writing is exceptional! I loved hearing your viewpoint, absolutely exceptional!

[@calistman222]

I love your work. Sometimes you seem to stray off into leaps of logic however I love your presentation and I find your conclusions intriguing (even if I do not always agree).

[@lemurlicker1846]

"But while god might be dead, all corpses feed fungus" What a clever line!

[@BoxheadHakx]

Evan you have another masterpiece. Your realism, or "skepticism" as Randal would call it, is appreciated.

[@averageviewer6279]

Love your videos, you got a great almost therapeutic narration voice.

[@Otawee]

U are such a story teller man. It's really relaxing to watch. keep it up!

[@lynettecarter9887]

Yet again you have slammed it home 💯 well done my friend 😉❤️

[@lynettecarter9887]

Always

[@nicknolty3784]

love this channel !!

[@adoptedjesus133]

welcome back guys. amazing as always. wish you the best.

[@CaptainCorneliusArgo]

"Facts never got in the way of a good story" - my dad, who also got me into the book: The Baltic Origins of Homer's Epic Tales: The Iliad, the Odyssey, and the Migration of Myth Which is a good read, and also contains Atlantis. It is way less exciting though (and is just Doggerland). Oh and very good video. I love these.

[@PlatinumAltaria]

The most frustrating thing reading these comments is how many people are trying to "make it true" by trying to match parts of the story to real events. Here's a city that got flooded! Here's an ancient culture with some cool architecture! One guy made a story up and thousands of years later we have to debate whether Neverland was a real place. Maybe Peter Pan is Nebuchadnezzar and the fairies were a metaphor for drugs. OR, it's a story. Just a tale.

[@ranke]

This is your best video! Thanks a lot!

[@catfeatherss]

This was so beautifully done. Thank you for this delicious food for thought.❤

[@ez45]

Holy shit, this is the best superficial historical overview into esotericism and conspiracism (and their links to the far right) I have ever seen, and I wrote my thesis on the topic!

[@RareEarthSeries]

Thanks!

[@ez45]

​​@@RareEarthSeries comes from the heart. And the way you're able to put it all into a human perspective, a narrative.. what I am saying is you are pretty good at what you are doing, keep doing it.

[@kotgc7987]

If Evan writes his own material, it is very nicely written, almost poetical. He may be a poet, even if he doesn't know it :-) Moooaaarrrr!!!!!

[@RareEarthSeries]

I do. thanks!

[@thekotska]

You’re a fantastic story teller. Keep up the great work

[@gabpacio]

Text wise, in terms of construction of narrative, logic structuring of facts, this was your best movie so far (yes, I've seen all of them you posted). Congratulations. It was fantastic.

[@mariokotlar303]

14:23 "It's just that with plate tectonics now as common in the average mind as psychedelic drugs," that line was legit poetry

[@GuagoFruit]

I never knew Plato was such a big "source: bro trust me" kind of guy.

[@RareEarthSeries]

in Ancient Greece historians sometimes cited their own dreams as a source

[@excellent_name]

@@RareEarthSeries Plato and Solon didn't

[@RareEarthSeries]

Plato, the guy who literally invented the concept of the noble lie, never lied for noble reasons? Lol ok

[@CarthagoMike]

Amazing mini-documentary as always!

[@vitruviuscorvin3690]

I was thinking all along that hey that sort of looks like Austria, had a very similar view in Bad Aussee... then in the credits it turns out it's indeed Austria! Willkommen!:) I remember you responded on another comment of mine that you also have family in Hungary (where i'm from) , but it's cool to see that you also got some connections in Austria (where I live). You have quite the central european heritage it seems:) I guess it's a human evolutionariy instinct to recognize these sort of similarities and then letting the others know, but overall i'm just glad you have a perspective on this region too. (And secretly hoping you'll end up making videos about Austria and/or Hungary one day).

[@RaggaDruida]

As somebody with a big fascination for ancient history and mythology, and whose father had a weird fascination with blavatsky, aliens, etc... This video needs to be seen by as many people as possible...

[@maccie8284]

Actually, from a universe point of view, we already live in Utopia. Its that we just don't appreciate it - and are blind to recognize what was given to us.

[@MikeBMW]

Well done, Evan! Love it! Thank you.

[@jeremiasrobinson]

If just about any other KZbin channel had this title for a video I wouldn't be watching, but I watch Rare Earth videos whenever I see them.

[@OortCloudObject]

Very well said. Especially the bit about echoes from the void, gave me shivers.

[@scpatl4now]

Love the quick Mr. Peabody and Sherman appearance (most of you have no idea what I am talking about...age has it's benefits)

[@norlockv]

Did they show that one in Canada? I believe Dudley Doright was censored.

[@xerzy]

I mean, there was the 2014 movie, so it shouldn't be *that* hard to remember...

[@scpatl4now]

@@xerzy I was thinking more Bullwinkle...did not even know there was a 2014 movie. Age also has it's liabilities

[@scpatl4now]

@@norlockv Did they have Bullwinkle?

[@xerzy]

@@scpatl4now Funny thing, when I was a very young child I also got to see the 2000 movie of Rocky and Bullwinkle, although that one _probably_ is far more obscure these days... (oh and there's also the Prime Video show but nobody watched that one)

[@usbxg3474]

Man, you are gooood! Thumbs up and thanks for the upload!

[@jasond8734]

Maybe your best one yet. This is high quality, intelligent content. I learned a lot, and felt things. Thank you.

[@pederchristopher]

I watched Graham Hancocks show on Netflix. I was waiting for the craziness to begin, but it never did. I feel he is treated a bit unfairly guys. To lump him in with the nut cases talking about aliens, nephtalim, crystal energies, etc... not fair. He puts forward a fascinating hypothesis that perhaps civilazation goes further back than we realize. Admittedly this idea of stone age evangelists traveling across the globe... a bit shaky. But overall he has some very interesting ideas... and he sadly gets dismissed out of pure dogmatic dedication to current theories. I love the current theories... but I just think we shouldnt be dogmatically dedicated to them. Thats always a mistake.

[@pederchristopher]

Having said that... your video is excellent in drawing the connection between the occult, racial pseudoscience, and new age ideas... amazing stuff. And I agree, we long for magic in the world, so much that we will go along with some of this craziness. Sad, but human.

[@danunpronounceable8559]

Agreed, the only criticism I have of his show is the lack of representation of real archeologists. If another season comes out I would expect this

[@pederchristopher]

​@@danunpronounceable8559 yes. I think they dont want to touch him with a 10 foot pole... career suicide. But thats part of the problem for why pseudoscience flourishes... the people who can ACTUALLY fact check these upstarts dont want to engage. Its very cultish behaviour on the part of the archaeologists. The tend to go for ad hominem atacks... rather than pointing out the actual flaws in the theory.

[@RareEarthSeries]

If you think the reason Hancock is dismissed is because of dogmatic sticking to prevalent theories you have not done enough research into what peer reviewed and repeatable science says about Hancock's theories. People don't engage with him because he sells lies to quasi-religious supporters, and in our world there is no benefit to presenting fact to those yearning for dogma. It doesn't teach people, it just makes you the enemy of their ideology. He has been disproven by experts countless times, and yet even in your own worldview claiming to want him to be disproven, these dozens of scientific returns to reality haven't been enough (or, clearly, even looked into at all). To call this cultish behaviour on the behalf of archaeologists is wild. Absolutely the opposite of reality, and with zero genuine backing outside of what the pseudoscientists say about archaeology.

[@amonaten13]

Thank you for this thorough response to the nonsense that is spreading faster again because of that Charlatan. Out of a sense of wonder I delved into that grotesque but alluring side of historical fiction through authors like Hancock, West and even D.H. Childress when I was young and discovered for myself the things you describe here. It is heartbreaking to see these ancient manipulations being so successful today but it just goes to show, There are so many bugs in the software.

[@divra1994]

Great as always!

[@SouthPeter98]

'I'm one to talk' ahahah great humour. Great video

[@JohnUnit]

This may be your best piece of writing. It won't get huge views, but it's amazing.

[@lazyafrandomnumbers]

Damn it, a rare earth video I didnt like or agree with, this is a first.

[@1.4142]

Very informative. I was listening to the comet podcast episode without context, and assumed it was a scientific debate.

[@lidu6363]

I love your end notes a great amount.

[@dzrtdwlr7891]

Reality and Science is always more fascinating than Any conspiracy. Thanks for the straight talk.

[@thesleepinggirl]

It's a shame Socrates/Plato's hot takes on Atlantis weren't looked into during Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure.

[@gib666]

Back to your absolute best with this, most excellent!

[@ericpigeon6179]

The slight ironic nod to the origin of this channel was great. Thank for making me laugh, and the interesting content.

[@MrSixthcircle]

science can definitely tell you yes. the LHC said yes they were right that the higgs boson exists. amazing vid as always, cheers mate.

[@RareEarthSeries]

Technically that's not true. What the scientific method actually says is that the Higgs boson 'doesn't not' exist. It can't affirm a positive, as there is always further room for a negative.

[@scpatl4now]

Wow...a video on Wednesday! Nice surprise!

[@RareEarthSeries]

If I don't feel it is up to my normal fare I release on a wednesday :)

[@michaelcherry8952]

@@RareEarthSeries Nothing you release is anything less than wonderful. You set yourself very high standards indeed if something like this is "not up to my normal fare"!

[@asianpansit]

i like the "but they didn’t" part. as always awesome video ^_^ happy new year 🎉

[@DuncanCunningham]

The best time travel podcast on KZbin.

[@GR1MRACER]

If Atlantis was highly advanced why didn't other cultures copy it?

[@TombaFanatic]

Dude, like, pyramids, man

[@agrippa.the.cosmonaut-wiz]

I don't believe the mythical Atlantis was real, but that question is not really a gatcha to disprove it. One could say that other cultures DID copy it, and inspired architectural styles in ancient Greece and even before that the Minoans. Or something like that. But again, I don't think it was real. Maybe there were a couple of idyllic isles that sailors talked up and those stories spread and escalated and inspired Platos fable.

[@RareEarthSeries]

The only reason we believe in Atlantis is because race science fanatics made it popular enough to re-enter the public psyche. Trying to disprove it in my opinion is more about telling the history of race science media popularization than the exacts of their island claims. They'll just move on to new claims. Always do.

[@GR1MRACER]

@@RareEarthSeries I mean like they said they had plumbing, what if a visitor at the time showed up and started asking questions like "where my poop go?"

[@RareEarthSeries]

@@GR1MRACER they also said they were telekinetic magicians who were ruled by a demigod alien, so ya know

[@panmornplatforms4191]

Firstly, I have to say I am leery of conspiracy theory people. I like this video and I would be remiss if I didn't say it is thoughtful. I've watched that netflix series done by Hancock and found it thought-provoking, not falling into a mindlessness. I have never cared for the Atlantis story, so I didn't pay much attention to that. However, the new findings in Turkey and other places do suggest that we know next to nothing, as is your assertion, if you are being honest with us. These ancient places being unearthed do represent a problem for modern archaeology and they will need to address them instead of just dismissing all of it out of hand. I noticed you did not address those things in this video, and that seems to be problematic for me. You had a point to make, and to make it you had to try to make others seem like weirdos (and they may be). You intentionally left those parts out about Turkey, etc. I like your channel and will continue to watch your videos, but next time introduce a little more balance instead of focusing on one small part of the "conspiracy theory" community to paint your picture of humans as stupid and blind.

[@RareEarthSeries]

Which archaeology, specifically, do you think dismisses the archaeology that archaeologists found? Seems like you listen to the charlatans about what the science says rather than the scientists.

[@phasm42]

An essay in video form. Very well done!

[@aaronramsonwhite]

Thank you, I really enjoyed this.

[@danunpronounceable8559]

I think Graham Hancock's series ask interesting questions regarding how many megalithic structures have strong correlations to astronomy, and the reasons why this may be

[@danielschein6845]

The fuzzy period when people were sophisticated enough to start making organized societies and building stuff but weren't yet writing anything down is a fascinating part of our history filled with genuine amazing things to be found and mysteries to be solved with the meager evidence we can find. In lap up any good documentary I can find in this and have more than once been intensely disappointed to discover 20 minutes in that it's Graham Hancock's quackery. The guy uses just enough genuine evidence to sound credible and the debunking can be really obscure at times. I'm sure the truth would be just as interesting as the nonsense if only we knew it all.

[@starshot5172]

Great video 👌🏼

[@flatembrace9565]

Great video. Probably the best in a while.

[@davidmaloney3587]

Humans have been phenotypically “modern” for about 70,000 years since the human genome bottlenecked after the Toba Event. Advanced human civilizations from about 13,000 years ago after the Younger Dryas impact event. The sea levels have risen 400 feet since then.

[@xltoffroadbear]

I have to admit I love Ancient Aliens and stories of Atlantis, but never "believed" any of it. But what a refreshing video this is! The irony is I watch so many Rogan and Hancock videos on KZbin for entertainment. Great palate cleanse here!

[@thomaschapple4749]

Quality always beats quantity. Rare Earth is one of the marvels of the Internet.

[@GrannySingaporePVP]

I believe Atlantis existed: just not the way people say; I believe that the Minoans were the Atlantians, and the story is loosely based on the eruption of Santorini at Thera. Tsunamis wiped out the Minoan cities that weren’t killed by the initial blast. The civilization was finished off by opportunistic states that took advantage of the greatly weakened Minoa. There are many parallels between the Minoans and Crete/Thera and Atlantis. Of course, Plato wouldn’t have had access to any first-hand accounts, as he lived long after the Minoans were gone. So I believe that he had heard legends of a civilization wiped out by the sea that had been passed down for generations, becoming a little more fantastical each time it was told.

[@erikreddington461]

You're being somewhat disingenuous too ya know, we did find human occupied land east of england underwater. Huge area. I get your point still no evidence of atlantis but it's more than manipulation. Some creators aren't charlatans but looking for truth only misguided.

[@erikreddington461]

And bro I still dig your shit. Thanks

[@lynettecarter9887]

Keep them coming 💯

[@reidflemingworldstoughestm1394]

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, and sometimes a myth is just a myth.

[@maxl.3459]

Idk Carlson and Hancock made some pretty good arguments. I don't think they're trying to make any concrete claims about Atlantis or anything, they're just trying to find some real life justification for the origins of common myths.

[@RareEarthSeries]

This video is a look into why they're common myths that are being looked into, when you understand what makes them common it changes the perspective of the search

[@maxl.3459]

@Rare Earth I totally agree. I'm sorry I should've clarified. I'm talking about myths like the Great Flood and other cataclysms, not anything like Mu or Lemuria. From what I've gathered of Carlson and Hancock's work, they're just saying that rapid sea level rise erased a lot of archeological evidence of civilizations on the coast. I know they're a little hokey, but a lot of their evidence seemed legit. Idk if I missed some of their other claims that are more outlandish?

[@RareEarthSeries]

If a lot of the evidence seems legit on first listen but isn't when studied scientifically, we call that pseudoscience. They sell a lie, simply put. It's outlandish particularly when you realize the thing they're trying to prove only exists in their minds because of the journey I've described here. The hidden history of why.

[@lindaevans5044]

Plate tectonics was pseudoscience at first. Now it's not. Some people thought the earth was flat, some didn't. If people would open their minds a bit - not to avidly devour every theory as a new gospel, but to hold things open for consideration - maybe the ground would be less fallow for conspiracy theories and facts would be allowed to come forth sooner.@@RareEarthSeries