Raspberry Pi 4 64-Bit Operating Systems: Manjaro, Ubuntu, Gentoo & More!

[@SanicTheHidgehag]

For more than a decade, Christopher has delivered us information with a clean and professional attitude. Thank you for another video!

[@joshuadowding7304]

From Explaining Computers dot com.

[@8cyber.muse8]

I would like to second this, thank you for your content!

[@rafaelpalmalima]

I love his content! It's given at a perfect pace and depth.

[@abo3abid1]

I agree. If he would just stop saying "Mr. Scissors" though 😁

[@GaryB007]

Mr Scissors is a legend.

[@nosuchthing8]

One comment, I really appreciate the hosts delivery. He actually pauses between sentences, and he does not rush. I cant underestimate how important this is.

[@8cyber.muse8]

I would like to second this, good delivery of content!

[@NicolasChapadosGirard]

Agree

[@gavincole5793]

Indeed. So many KZbinrs use jump cuts to eliminate any and all pauses. It makes even a 7 minute video exhausting

[@nosuchthing8]

@@gavincole5793 indeed, they could take a cue from the organization of this video.

[@DallasMike424]

It is important. He has spot on delivery and should add "stand-up comic" to his list of accomplishments.

[@perrymcclusky4695]

It’s simply amazing how powerful all the small SBC’s are getting and how many 64-bit distros are being created for them. Specifically, it will be interesting to see how the 64-bit distros will continue to improve for the Pi. Christopher, I hope that infection on your chest has healed up and not giving you any discomfort now. Looking forward to your next video!

[@ExplainingComputers]

Hi Perry, and thanks for this. I am pleased to report that having got worse and worse, and following a second biopsy, my wound is finally on the mend. In the past week it's actually sealed over! :)

[@perrymcclusky4695]

ExplainingComputers I’m so sorry it has taken so long, but so happy to hear you are starting to get better. From this point on, I’m hoping you’ll heal quickly! Best wishes!!!

[@anthonywayner8734]

Good luck buying a pi now

[@perrymcclusky4695]

@@anthonywayner8734 No worries, already have mine.

[@edwardaudet8367]

Chris, Thank U. I tried out Manjaro, and it flys on an ssd drive. I tried it out on a sd card and it was nice, I then copied to a ssd hard drive and it really gave me the experience of a full fledge PC.. I enjoyed the review of all the 64 bits but this one jumped out as the best for me. So thenk you very much.

[@ExplainingComputers]

Great to hear of your Manjaro Pi experience!

[@Goman1244]

I wanted to take a minute and express my thanks for the wonderful videos that you produce. They are extremely well organized and professionally edited. I look forward each week to watch them.

[@ExplainingComputers]

Thanks Jim, your kind feedback is most appreciated.

[@TheDarDar1]

Chris is as professional as once can get. His videos are detailed, well structured and a pure enjoyment to watch. Thank you and greetings from Cincinnati, Ohio, USA!

[@ExplainingComputers]

I appreciate that!

[@goldenratio183]

Suse: No Audio Output Chris: Watch Charlie Chaplin

[@IanSMoyes]

Plug the speakers in.

[@catgarcia2238]

Who?

[@ExplainingComputers]

Speakers do not work! No audio drivers. :)

[@staninjapan07]

Too funny.

[@jameswilkins8530]

You have achieved Enlightenment!!! I am stunned and amazed that any variant of Gentoo is so easy to install as it was one of those that was famous for being cryptic for newbies. Been loving Manjaro for quite a few years now. I 'read the manual' and installed Arch once the Arch way. Nice and stable, but Manjaro offered nearly the same thing.

[@izzieb]

Afternoon Christopher. Hope you're keeping well and enjoying the warm weather.

[@ExplainingComputers]

You too

[@joeyhillers9460]

Now we are talking. This is what it needed

[@beachsex]

I've been using 64bit mate as a daily driver for a bit now, and it works fantastic! 👍

[@thejailbreaker82]

Excellent timing with this upload! I've just recently purchased a new pi 4 8gb model and wanted to install a 64 bit OS to better utilize the 8gbs of RAM and your video has done an incredible job of laying out some of the available options in a robust and complete manner. Thank you Chris for making these videos as they are always one of my favorite parts of my Sunday evening!

[@ExplainingComputers]

Glad I could help!

[@danielktdoranie]

The “Beta” 64-bit Raspberry Pi OS that you can download and install is exceptionally stable and video and chrome issues have been resolved as per a couple of weeks ago... so no more video tearing. I have been running 64-bit Raspberry Pi OS for the last month, no issues.

[@mawamatakama5150]

Could you provide a link or instructions how to download it? I can't figure it out by myself.

[@danielktdoranie]

mawama takama www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=275370 Nothing special to install. Download the .img file and use Raspberry Pi Imager or Balena Etcher to “burn” it to an SD card.

[@СергейД-ч4ь]

It's good news!

[@buzzword4388]

I bought the 8GB version of the Raspberry PI 4 two months ago. Results have been superb with Raspberry PI OS 32-bit, reflashed BIOS, overclocked to 2 GHz, on an SSD and with a few other tweaks here and there. An active cooling solution is highly recommended; I'm using an aluminum case from Pi Shop with two GPIO fans.. I'm getting CPU temps in the low 40s with great KZbin playback at high resolution, sometimes with zero dropped frames. Ubuntu works great on the Pi as well. Up next, however, will be Raspberry Pi OS 64-bit. There is some great Pi reference material in the Help menu of the Raspberry Pi OS. Somehow, my new Raspberry Pi is performing better than my new 10-gen Intel i7 Windows 10 laptop with an NVMe SSD. Thanks for the great vid!

[@vogonp4287]

I am always impressed with what my Pi 400 and Pi 4 can do.

[@johnnygreene4658]

Can't believe you hadn't tried OpenSuse. But now I have to replace Ubuntu on my Raspberry Pi. Didn't realize it was available for Raspberry Pi 4. Love your video's, keep up the good work.

[@askhowiknow5527]

I bet no one ever thought they would say the words "KDE Plasma is a lightweight desktop" but these days it really is

[@not_herobrine3752]

did everything else bloat that much?

[@vogonp4287]

It is certainly more lightweight than Gnome.

[@aiyumifujisaki2619]

This is the single most useful Pi video I've seen in a while- plus your execution and style is super! I only wish that you had covered Apertis OS as well

[@SandpaperEater]

Love this channel!

[@ExplainingComputers]

Glad to hear it!

[@beeeeep]

Nice to get a desktop view of the current 64bit rpi4 distros. I mainly do my working in terminals, but now I want to hook up one and see how to get less frame drops. Thanks for a great video!

[@oldroscoe2590]

Thank You! I downloaded and put Manjaro on my pi4. The sound didn't work on HTML to a TV until I downloaded the updates.

[@catreunion]

Thanks!

[@ExplainingComputers]

Thanks for your support, most appreciated.

[@kentandersen9526]

This dude is so cool. Installs gentoo on a raspberry pi and makes videos for all of us to see.

[@NewAgeDIY]

This is a much needed video Chris. It was good to see how much attention the Raspberry Pi has received lately. It’s interesting to see the difference each has to offer. Thanks for today’s video.

[@ExplainingComputers]

Thanks Dale.

[@BlommaBaumbart]

"That's just nice" was my first experience with regular OpenSUSE too.

[@ExplainingComputers]

:)

[@Duewester]

Once again, excellence in "Explaining Computers". Very very informative, clear, precise and understandable. I am currently running Raspberry Pi OS 64 bit on a Pi 4B+ 8GB booting from a USB 3.1 SSD no overclocking and stock GPU settings. I had not booted it for a week or so until last night. I did the ritual Update and Upgrade and unlike previous rituals, this one had a boatload of stuff in it. Previously, my Pimoroni Pirate Audio Shim produced no output even with all the same settings used for 32b version of the new OS (one reason I wasn't booting in very often) however, now the Pirate Audio is working like a champ. Anyway, using the stock installed Chrome browser I looked at several fast paced and heavily animated videos (couldn't find your sample) like THX Deepnote Trailer 2029 (4K) - Genesis and the Top Gun Trailers on KZbin. There is a somewhat slow load of YT at first but, once a video is selected the videos are awesome in 480 and very respectable in 1080. I use a HP 2011X display and WiFi from a Google Mesh network connected via fiber optics to my ISP. Keep up the excellent work.

[@mawamatakama5150]

I can't believe this. This weekend I was looking for 64bit OS for my new Raspberry Pi 4. I am starting to believe that Mr. Barnatt can read minds.

[@nicolasnoka]

Thank you so much dude! I attempted another tutorial and it was crashing all the time. I gave it a try with your and it seems much better so far. I just finished the installation so I can give more feedback later. Also, I was trying to overclock before the installation by adding the commands into the config file and I was having some issues. I will use without overclocking for now and perhaps will do it later. I am using a raspberry pi 4 8gb ram with a canakit by the way!

[@MarcusPHagen]

Two thumbs up for 64-bit SuSE from a Charlie Chaplin fan! 🐸

[@prajullas]

Man that was brilliant statement.

[@resrussia]

Excellent round-up of 64-bit OSs for the Raspberry 4. Once again you have done an excellent job of providing the Raspberry community with an excellent overview of what is available for the Raspberry. I hope you continue the excellent your excellent work!

[@RoyNeeraye]

I think openSuSE has always been a very underrated Linux distro even though, IMHO, it definitely is one of the best out there for x86 and ia64, and I am sure the very reactive community will soon figure out a version which will have audio output for the Raspberry Pi 4

[@garrickstokes]

Used it professionally for the last decade or so. It's definitely a pro-grade desktop OS.

[@personanongratis]

It's definitely a distro for intermediate users, its strong points are YAST and btrfs snapshots if you use btrfs!

[@phatmeow7764]

i've been eyeing Gecko Linux which is based off OpenSuse and is suppose to be dumbed down for newbies haha

[@garrickstokes]

@@phatmeow7764 Unless you need to be up and running quickly, install OpenSuSE on a VM. It's a good way to learn and it might be the last linux you ever need to learn. It's extremely capable as a desktop or server across a wide range of architectures and even has an "enterprise" migration path (which not many do).

[@kloroformd]

I tried out Tumbleweed and had a lot of problems with community programs not working. It was probably user error or something broken in my install, but I got tired of fiddling.

[@adolfoperezcarrillo1288]

Amazing review, thanks EC. 1) UMate 2)Opensuse 3)KDE

[@saturno_tv]

Finally I made it. Another outstanding video for sunday. Thank you so much Chris. This is the best stuff ever!

[@suber36g]

bruh, you couldn't watch it all in 3 minutes

[@williamhorton9763]

@@suber36g In Saturno's defense, it is safe to assume that EC videos will be outstanding.

[@DANNYO53]

I want to thank you for this video. As a result of it I installed the Ubuntu Mate on my 8GB Raspberry Pi Canakit . This distro works terrifically for me and was easy to install.

[@ExplainingComputers]

Excellent, great to hear!

[@lindsaymoore4046]

Every time I watch your videos, I feel the need for some 3d printed chocolate stars..... Awesome videos!!!

[@ExplainingComputers]

Thank you so much 😀

[@iPondR]

Great to see a variety of distributions being tested... regardless of what they're running on! A joy to watch.

[@ExplainingComputers]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@video99couk]

I just love the new word "Desktopify"!

[@eduardoschubert5738]

Funny fact, after several videos abouts SBCs I've decide to buy my very first raspberry pi 4. It has arrived last monday and I then installed ubuntu Mate. I was very dissapoint that It is unable to run VirtualBox nor WINE, but now I understand why. Thanks for all!

[@ExplainingComputers]

Ah, you have discovered the x86 / ARM thing. I happen to have a video all about it next week! :) Enjoy your new Pi. It can run DOSBox very well. :)

[@ruxcooking]

There's a couple of wine projects going on. My favorite one being box86 which wasn't designed to run wine but is in the process of already running some software through wine. There's a channel called pilabs .

[@eduardoschubert5738]

​@@ExplainingComputers At first I thought that VirtualBox would be able to create an environment of x86 machines. About the Wine, as its acronym says, it is not an emulator (like DosBox is) - so I over expected from Wine.

[@minepro1206]

I've been using OpenSUSE tumbleweed with XFCE for several months now, spectacular distro with great repos. Never heard of E20 though, it seems like a mobile or tablet-like desktop environment.

[@jambay4785]

Thanks for covering wide range of system capabilities and OS installs. Nice to know you can make a separate launch system on micro SD drives.

[@AlexJPetrov]

Can you try changing "layers.acceleration.force-enable" to " true" in Firefox's "about:config" to see if there is any difference in KZbin's playback smoothness?

[@SavageArms357]

That may help slightly, but do be aware that setting only makes the webpage itself hardware accelerated, it does not effect video hardware acceleration (though that feature should be supported in Firefox 80 on Linux).

[@AlexJPetrov]

@@SavageArms357 It helps videos to accelerate on my old laptop. It may work but the only way to know is to test it.

[@SavageArms357]

@@AlexJPetrov What that would mean is that it's helping take some load off the CPU to render the webpage by rendering it on the GPU, which would free up some extra CPU power to help software decode the video. As I mention, it will likely help a little bit, but not as much as proper video hardware acceleration would bring.

[@polgzz]

In my experience, although it is not still 1080p, the best way to enjoy KZbin on a raspi is to open the URL on VLC (it plays on 720p) or anyother external player, not from the browser itself. Way smoother and both CPU and RAM seem less impacted

[@mawamatakama5150]

@@polgzz Some people (some people = me) are too lazy to copy the link to VLC.

[@mauriceelliott5902]

Thanks for explaining these operating systems together. Very informative and interesting. I look forward to any similar videos in the future. Thanks again.

[@ExplainingComputers]

Many thanks for this positive feedback.

[@mk_annan22]

@ExplainingComputers Recently installed openSUSE Leap server on VirtualBox on my Desktop PC running Manjaro KDE Plasma. I installed Nextcloud but I can't seem to certify my Nextcloud domain name as secure which is hosted on Cloudflare. Kindly please make a video on installing Nextcloud and securing it's domain. Thanks for choosing these two of my favourite Linux distros on this video.

[@MrThomascd]

Thanks for the posting of these tests.....the open SUSE was my favorite

[@g-r-a-e-m-e-]

Hi Chris, another brilliant episode ... Could you consider having an episode featuring audio streaming? I am using a very old underpowered PC purely for running Spotify, and it struggles even in that role. A sbc setup might work well, but which? I am using a DAC, so for me the onboard sound isn't much of a issue.

[@adonay944]

Try raspotify works great

[@g-r-a-e-m-e-]

@@adonay944 Thanks, will explore!

[@ExplainingComputers]

Great idea, noted.

[@englishrupe01]

Thanks so much, Chris! This is a wonderful comparative review!

[@Nibardocano]

Thanks for the video Chris. I choose openSUSE for the Charlie Chaplin silent HD movies 😂

[@ExplainingComputers]

:)

[@tarheelcryptoyankee1213]

Almost a year later, but, still a FANTASTIC share! Thank you, Sir! I'm planning a Kubernetes Raspberry Pi 4 8GB build in the Argon One M.2 case that you reviewed. I'm hoping to "channel" (pun intended) yourself and NetworkChuck to get this project completed! Thank you again!

[@not_herobrine3752]

did you manage to build it yet?

[@mikehaldane4061]

Just watched the ARM vlog on KZbin having set up my Raspberry Pi with Ubuntu Mate 64 Bit OS.

[@kneekoo]

Thanks for taking the time to test all these. :)

[@ExplainingComputers]

My pleasure!

[@geoffhalsey2184]

KZbin-dl is available for the Raspberry Pi. Rather than putting up with poor playback with a direct KZbin connection, downloading them with youtube-dl makes it available to any video player you have installed. Handy if you have a technical video that you wish to play a bit at a time or watch again. After your done ,delete the video to free up space. OpenSUSE looks rather nice, I'll have to give it a whirl.

[@gepwxaqdfsidsesg1548]

I have using Manjaro KDE on a Pinebook Pro for a few weeks and I'm very impressed.

[@adityapandey7798]

Ubuntu has become the go to software for people who want a stable experience in any machine. Hope to see a proper linux for mobiles soon.

[@ashutoshtiwari3785]

How about android?

[@lavishjaat]

Everybody gangsta till Ubuntu says package has broken dependencies.

[@estudiordl]

@@lavishjaat I honestly can't remember the last time I saw that unless I mess around a lot. My work machine with Mint is upgrading since 17 with 0 issues so far (nearly two years). And my laptop Ubuntu Mate just got a apt issue last week because I foolishny stop an upgrade early but I just dpkg -configure -a , and done... 😏 But yeah, it may happen like any other OS so backup often, my friends 😉

[@equipmentissues2700]

Sailfish OS is already there

[@EmmEff3168]

I'll have to disagree on the latest Ubuntu Server. I need to retry it, but they changed the networking to use netplan and, unfortunately, a cloud component totally useless for my use case. I was unable to configure a static IP address or find decent docs on this task. Together with the deprecation of the mini.iso on AMD64, I'm no longer inclined to use Ubuntu.

[@ARTICK-ATK]

Thanks again for another great video. Multiple distros very well explaned and all 64 bits. Very usefull.

[@tomlake2732]

To convert Ubuntu Server to the desktop version, you just have to do "sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop" no third-party scripts needed.

[@ExplainingComputers]

As I said in the video, there are various ways to do it. The script from Martin Wimpress does a lot more than just install the desktop. For example, it installs GPIO drivers for the Pi, enables Bluetooth, and enables Firefox hardware acceleration, which is important in the tests here. Remember this is not the same as converting server to desktop on an x86 system --a lot of tweaks are needed on an ARM board for good operation.

[@leechadwick6702]

@@ExplainingComputers thank you. I watch your channel a lot. Shame OpenSuse does not have sound support (yet at least) :( otherwise, I would have chosen that. Going to go with Ubuntu 20.04 convert to desktop and run the script :) or Ubuntu MATE decisions...decisions

[@ExplainingComputers]

@@leechadwick6702 Yes, so many decisions! :) But only due to so many great 64-bit OS for the Pi now! I am sure that in time OpenSuse will get audio support.

[@rodethicong]

Desktopify has tweaks that can optimize ubuntu and make it run faster on the pi. Installing ubuntu directly on top of the server version will hog drastically

[@norbertruthers2408]

@@ExplainingComputers the page is not available unfortunately

[@makemoneynow5061]

Amazing! Never thought I'd be finish watching this video!

[@MicrobyteAlan]

Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks

[@reggiep75]

THIS THIS THIS!!!! I've been waiting for the 64-bit Pi distro's to arrive, en masse, to try them out and install on my daughters Rasp Pi B3+ to get a better performance and here they are. A nice handful of OS's to take a look at but from the off I'm favouring Ubuntu MATE as it looks very responsive.

[@gamiwv]

I'm using Manjaro on my 3B+. Running smoother than Gentoo. I have difficulty to setup wifi with the last one. If you download Manjaro-xfce take care to update CORRECTLY the servers catalogue

[@reggiep75]

@@gamiwv - Thanks for the advice. I think I'll setup Ubuntu MATE and Manjaro initially to compare smoothness and responsiveness on a number of levels.

[@HorukAI]

@@reggiep75 did you get your results? I'm also thinking what to install between the two

[@DrFrost07]

Was having a rotten day and then this video appeared! :D

[@MrPDawes]

Awesome line up. Yet another great Video Chris. Very informative and to the point.

[@8cyber.muse8]

Although this video was extremely interesting & useful, particularly because I was wondering how different distros were working on a Raspberry Pi since I would like to make one into a study computer, I would have to say my favorite parts were ''oh deary me'' and ''come on you swine!'' when you were upset at the slow loading time hahaha

[@lesliedeana5142]

A nice comparison.... I think the last OS (Open Suse) will give sound if you use an USB Sound board. Not ideal in terms of an 'all in one', but it should offload the sound processing and give a little extra 'umph' to the Pi.

[@ExplainingComputers]

Ah yes, a good suggestion. I must try this! :) Thanks.

[@------country-boy-------]

Ya i had an audio problem on the Pi a few years ago running Ubuntu Mate. A cheap little $2 USB Sound Card did the trick. Later i found out there is a code line in Alsa that needs to be changed. I forget how to do it now but i remember having to root into the system files and poke around.

[@rogerkoh1979]

Great show case of 64bit OS for pi4. I am currently using Ubuntu Mate. Work great. Look forward to next week show.

[@hasturyellow1225]

Raspberry pi os 64 exists as a test version. Im running it on a 8gb pi4.

[@ExplainingComputers]

Indeed! I mention it at the end of the video.

[@chrisschembari2486]

19:20 if you like the visual setup there, that's largely controlled by the choice of desktop environment - allowing, of course, for the possibility that OpenSUSE somehow customized their E20. You probably will like other distros that offer Enlightenment DE. I don't know offhand if it's E20, but Enlightenment is available on Debian, Ubuntu, Bodhi, and I'm sure many others.

[@ostry44444]

Watching from Pi 4B 4GB Ubuntu Mate :D

[@ExplainingComputers]

And this says it all!

[@catgarcia2238]

Is it worth buying?

[@ostry44444]

​@@catgarcia2238 Yes, but you should also get at least passive cooling and it's good to boot OS from SSD for the best user experience if your're planning to use as mini PC.

[@Najvalsa]

In Ubuntu and OpenSUSE, they seem to have Firefox setup to prefer the VP9 codec, or perhaps to not use the AV1 codec at all, for video playback. That's a good idea since VP9's older and therefore better supported, and quicker to both encode and decode with.

[@1nsanejochem]

Chris reminds me of Chriet Titulaer, that is a great compliment.

[@1nsanejochem]

Adam Tresorio Chriet is a legend regarding explaining tech. Google him.

[@burcakb1]

I would've liked to see some more detail of each OS. I got my first Pi4 back last year in September and my 64-bit experience with everything except Manjaro was abysmal. Ubuntu only ran half-decent, it was memory-gimped (couldn't address the full 4 GB). The core was 64-bit, rest of the libraries remained 32-bit, etc. I was doing docker work and the experience was painful. Except Manjaro. It worked great from the first second and i'm still using Manjaro. All my docker work went smoothly, zero problems. Full memory addressing. Plus the awesome access to AUR (though not everything is available for ARM). Manjaro ARM dev team was also very helpful and fast in solving problems. I was so impressed with Manjaro after seeing the ubuntu mess that I went ahead & became their patron. Now that it's been many months and i have no reason to switch from Manjaro, it would've been nice to see how the other distros are doing in terms of full 64-bit and software support.

[@davocc2405]

This is one of the best timed videos I've had - I literally tried Mate about half an hour before seeing this appear (my Mate-64 experience here was wildly different to yours, it was horrific on a Pi 4b 8gig on a 256gig Samsung SD card, 1080p was unworkable and CPU was at 100% on all four cores in FIrefox - out of the box config).

[@ozonesama]

Can you please give us feedback on the Raspberry OS 64bit for your hardware configuration?

[@davocc2405]

@@ozonesama I just downloaded the release version of the Mate build based on 20.04 and optimised for the Pi, I didn't really do much in the way of configuration other than installing Conky. I was using the in-built browser in default configuration; I haven't tried the Raspbery Pi OS 64-bit beta yet, is that the one you were wanting me to try?

[@ozonesama]

@@davocc2405 Yes, but since then, I tested it (Raspberry OS 64bit, the Arm64, 2020-05-28 version, followed by a bunch of updates once I got it running) on a Raspberry Pi 4, 4 Gb of RAM, 256 Mb allocated to the GPU, small aluminium radiator and fan on the CPU, main storage is a Samsung 32 Gb SD card. It runs fine, even the web browser, with CPU temperatures below 50°C. I am considering buying a 8 Gb RAM Raspberry Pi and a small SSD later, so that the whole OS runs from Ramdisk, and I was considering using Raspberry OS 64bit, but I am curious about the issues you mentioned.

[@davocc2405]

@@ozonesama I'm not entirely sure what the variation in behaviour (from reviews) is from - but I'm pretty sure I haven't done anything to affect it as I'm using the generic installation process, there's nothing for me to actually alter; it's very strange, I've done it twice now and had poor performance in both cases. For some reason I/O to the SD card in he Ubuntu derived OS builds seems to be less than ideal; this is an anecdotal test but I'm comparing Raspbian to Ubuntu based builds so far. I think it's still very early for proper 64 bit support, i think they were waiting for the Foundation to sort out primary compatibility issues largely.

[@douglasbenny7852]

Great video - thanks for the preparation and the great work.

[@ExplainingComputers]

Thanks for watching!

[@knightshousegames]

I feel like the true Manjaro experience is XFCE. Especially on an Arm device, because I just think KDE is just too heavy.

[@josephtremblant2173]

Well, I just installed Manjaro 20.10 XFCE version(1080p) on my Rpi4 8gb with ICE tower cooling OC'd to 2.143Ghz and booting from a Samsung Evo 970 plus NVMe via USB3 and feels barely usable as a linux desktop OS. I went back to TwisterOS 32 bit.

[@maxmouse3]

Surprised to see regular ubuntu perform better than MATE, I love mate. I was waiting for a video like this for a while:) Thank you very much! :)

[@massmo2007]

I would love to see linux mint come to r-pi that would make it installed on all my computers then :) main pc, laptop and pi 4 4gb. I do like this video though and it's exciting to see 64bit distro releases

[@ExplainingComputers]

I agree that Linux Mint for the Pi would be great!

[@jrhaven]

Yeah! If the Mint team ever gets the time to do so, they should really concider it!

[@harrisonu]

Warpinator on pi would be fun

[@АлексейГриднев-и7р]

Shouldn't be too hard to make it work, as Linux Mint is, essentially, Ubuntu with Cinnamon desktop and without snapd.

[@leechadwick6702]

I would be all for that too. I' d stick to Mint for a while then

[@ltweed1]

Hi Christopher! Thanks for this. Very interesting choices I have for an operating system now. I wish you had been able to demonstrate some of the 64-bitishnesd of these OS's, but I'm not even sure how you would do that. Good job, as always 😁

[@CalebHawn]

"A great distro for watching silent movies." -Chris 2020

[@chriholt]

Thanks as always Chris, it's amazing what that little Pi can do.

[@ExplainingComputers]

Hi Chris, here we are again!

[@louistournas120]

@@ExplainingComputers How does the video work? What is the GPU?

[@polgzz]

Perfect, now I can properly bloat my Raspi with KDE or Gnome 🤣🤣🤣. I don't really see using a raspi as a desktop computer... In any case, anybody knows if window managers like Openbox or any tiling one would work for arm? If I was to chose a desktop, I would definitely go for that, the performance benefit should be really thanked on a raspi!!

[@polgzz]

I answer myself: raspbian desktop runs, in fact, on openbox! You can easily install any custom theme (and an icon pack like in any other distrito) and in two seconds it looks awesome 👌. You have to enable, in the settings for the "start" menu, the option to access openbox configuration from the menu. Then you will have a new item on the menu (by default it's hidden) And then just add the theme for openbox that you have downloaded.

[@------country-boy-------]

they finally came out with the 64 bit versions !!!!!!! thanks for making this video !!!!!!!!!

[@jonmahashintina]

'mark! MARK!!!' 'what?' 'someone clicked YES to the system info telemetry' 'oh. my. GOD.'

[@jameswilkins8530]

Okay, I'm being redundant here, but I just installed GenPi64, October 10, and it was astonishingly easy. And I did read the notes. Unscary Gentoo Girl and her team are spectacular! I would consider myself intermediate. Un~scared~of the command line and file structures but Gentoo always seemed cryptic. Thanks to you, and her, for this great OS!

[@ExplainingComputers]

Excellent!

[@jameswilkins8530]

@@ExplainingComputers Oops. I meant 10 September.

[@Ograws]

There's two types of people in this world. Those who use Etcher and those who use Rufus

[@ExplainingComputers]

This is true. I use Etcher because it saves me a great deal of time and drive space because it writes directly from virtually all forms of compressed file.

[@LampJustin]

There's a third that uses dd for everything ;)

[@Ograws]

@@LampJustin I've heard of dd but never used it. Might give it a look 👍

[@------country-boy-------]

and some people use multibootusb

[@atimholt]

I usually use Etcher, and I have it installed, but I've been using “Raspberry Pi Imager” recently. At the least, there are certain specific images it makes trivially easy to use (like, y'know, Raspberry Pi OS), thanks to their direct presence as options in the software.

[@waltnovinger6431]

Excellent video as usual, Chris. I have looked all over for the KZbin video you use for your benchmarks...no joy. Could you please include a link in the description on your videos? I'd like to use the video myself to test my own systems. Many thanks!

[@ExplainingComputers]

Here you go: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jHTSpqt4o7lnqNk

[@jusatin]

Sadly none of the systems is still good enough for one to actually watch KZbin (or any other web video). The videos are way too choppy (even in 30fps) and even opening the browser takes up too long. Maybe one day. Thanks for the video!

[@fred-youtube]

Try ublock origin and h264ify in chromium on ubuntu mate desktopify, its better than most others!!

[@josephtremblant2173]

You haven't seen an Odroid-N2+ with Ubuntu 20.04 w/Gnome/Wayland and 5.9 kernel in action then or a RockPi4C / RockPro64 SBC's with Armbian-Reforged V1.0 OS. You'll see the difference.

[@cokeforever]

Hey Christopher! I think what you just did is great! Reinstalling so many distros is much of a burden. Such an amazing channel!

[@ExplainingComputers]

Hey, thanks!

[@Arek_R.]

Nerdiest looking dude on youtube

[@BlazeOGlory]

Informative and entertaining. Just what I have come to expect from Chris! WTG man!

[@ahoj113]

14th

[@ExplainingComputers]

That special number . . .

[@JoseFernandez-yz1sf]

I was so glad to learn that OpenSuse is available for RPI 4, I at once installed it and then NO SOUND!, what?!, after re-read the link posted by here EC I realized that is not yet available, probably did not carefully pay attention to the video, so I am sad to know that. OpenSuse is the distro I have used for many years, to me is the best. I have to wait for the RPI version. Thanks EC for this, as usual, very informative video.

[@spuds7677]

Years ago I bought a copy of Suse Linux Pro 8.0. It came with 8 CDs and 1 DVD for installation. It was easy to use and a good desktop environment to learn Linux on. I felt when Novell took it over, it wasn't as user friendly and just wasn't the same. I downloaded it for the Pi4 but I never got around to testing it out. With the Desktopify version of Ubuntu Mate, I never felt a need to install it.

[@juzujuzu4555]

There is nothing better than Gentoo. On my laptop, with wifi & bluetooth loaded, with ALL the latest packages and 1 day old 5.8 kernel, it takes 45mb of RAM. When starting full Mate desktop, it takes 200mb in total. And it's lightning fast in every way. Gentoo is amazing, but it has really steep learning curve. But once you have climbed over that, it's just amazing.

[@mattsadventureswithart5764]

How steep is that curve for a manjaro user who is unafraid of the AUR?

[@juzujuzu4555]

@@mattsadventureswithart5764 It's somewhat steep, but only for a short time. But you will certainly learn valuable things about Linux.

[@mattsadventureswithart5764]

@@juzujuzu4555 Thank you :)

[@danw1955]

I LOVE Manjaro x64 with the Plasma desktop, with a few exceptions... The default 'network neighborhood' doesn't work all that great without massaging samba settings a bit. Also, the settings for the screen saver/lockscreen are a trick to find (in power settings of all places?), and audio settings are a bit lacking. Everything else so far is rock stable, and I have it booting from a Crucial 1 TB. SSD drive which I flashed the Manjaro installation to with the RPi Installer. I shut down and pulled my Micro-SD card and the Pi 4B booted directly off the SSD drive. A little startup configuration and Manjaro was ready to rock. It's very responsive and will do full screen video out of the box (which is something I had trouble with on numerous other distros). Incidentally, I have the SSD on a Geekworm X825 SATA adapter that uses a USB 3.1 link to get data to the RPi. It seems to be a good bit quicker than the USB 3 cable adapter I was using before and comes with a 5v. - 4 amp power supply.😉 Actually the full kit is listed as a Model X825-C6. It includes the metal case, fan, power switch, installation hardware and cables, and the X825 V1.5 SATA SSD/HDD shield. *NOTE:* Christopher, the fact that you're using a cable type USB 3 adapter for your SSD, may be part of the reason for the full-screen video glitches, since KZbin videos actually are downloaded to a temporary cache on your SSD, and played from there... just a thought.🙂

[@KunouJS]

I couldn't find information over SSD booting with Manjaroo x64 -- even on Reddit! Thanks for sharing! However, would the XFCE version be more responsive and faster than Plasma? I'm guessing yes. My Pi hasn't shipped yet but I'm hoping to be well prepared for it!

[@danw1955]

@@KunouJS XFCE *IS* a lighter desktop, so I imagine it would be even faster overall than Plasma. Like I said, there's still some glaring quirks that need to be resolved, mainly with Samba and the failure of other machines on my network showing up in the file manager, but apart from that, it's very usable and smooth.😉

[@KunouJS]

@@danw1955 Uh oh. I actually want to make it into a NAS as well with Samba. I hope it gets resolved soon!

[@danw1955]

@@KunouJS Probably better to have another Pi that's just dedicated for a NAS server with Open Media Vault. 😉

[@jimlynch9390]

Didn't he say he was running from the SD card? In that case, the SSD wouldn't have any effect unless it picked up a swap partition from the SSD.

[@NOPerative]

Nice vid with an excellent showcase of varied OS. Would be nice to see the same study conducted with that SSD you got installed to the system for closure btw. Stay healthy & strong for us!

[@RainerHuberUetliburg]

Hi Chris! Many thanks for the very professional informations you give with this video. I will now change from raspian on my Rasperry 4 to UBuntu-Server and desktopify it. This is an excellent idea i did learn from you! (sorry for my english)

[@ListenToPumpkinMusic]

Thank you for these reviews. I initially bought my Raspberry Pi with the intention of using it with a 64 bit operating system but eventually gave up and put it in storage because it didn't seem like any were close to being released. Now that I've watched this I'm looking forward to setting it up properly for long-term use. :)

[@ExplainingComputers]

The 64-bit Pi 4 scene has improved dramatically recently. We get official Ubuntu 20.10 in October!

[@TheAhmedvienna]

really thanks for this video. now i know which OS to put. great job !

[@clarkso65]

Wow, well explained and you explain it like a breeze very elementary, clear and concise. Thank you so much!!! :)

[@loginregional]

SUSE! Software und Systementwicklung! Holey Underwear, I used to use a version back about 20 years ago! 5.1? I always called it Suzy. I went from Yggdrasil to SuSE (pre-Novell) and eventually settled on Debian, with some side steps over to Knoppix, Ubuntu AND Kubuntu. After complications with Internet providers and IP addresses, I decided to use a shared service, which resolved a lot of problems with traffic. Yes, back in those days I had a dedicated line with 64 routeable addresses that flew at an amazing 64K! And it was only $900 a month! What surprises me, however is that, to my knowledge, you've never shown the process of compiling your own Kernel. At the time, I had puh-lenty of machines and going forward on one of these was fairly easy. After all, if it didn't boot, I could always trouble shoot from one of the other machines. I had had a growing organic problem where my original cluster of three was all the same hardware, but I had been acquiring other machines. Optimizing a kernel for the hardware was key. This begs the question: *Will you be doing in the future a do-it-yourself kernel compile for these ARM processors?* I kind of miss/don't miss YaST, Yet another Something (system? No, Setup!) Tool.

[@максглушков-м4щ]

Thanks for your great work! This desktopify is really interesting thing.

[@burkhardlieverkus5696]

Thank you very much for your many videos and all the information, which I can always understand and comprehend well, even though my English is quite poor. Greetings from Germany :-)

[@ExplainingComputers]

Greetings from the UK! :)