Raspberry Pi OS (Legacy) & Bullseye Camera Support

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ExplainingComputers

ExplainingComputers

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Raspberry Pi OS (Legacy) is a new version of the operating system for users who require the Picamera Python library, the Raspicam apps, or the OMX media player. This video demonstrates camera access in Pi OS (Legacy), as well as the new option to use the legacy camera interface and Raspicam apps in Bullseye.
My previous “Raspberry Pi OS Bullseye Update” video is here: • Raspberry Pi OS Bullse...
My previous video on “Raspberry Pi Time Lapse Photography” is here:
• Raspberry Pi Time Laps...
The news article from Raspberry Pi announcing the developments covered in this videos is here: www.raspberrypi.com/news/new-...
Raspberry Pi OS can be downloaded from: www.raspberrypi.com/software/...
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Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
01:05 Bullseye Legacy Camera Support
05:57 Raspberry Pi OS (Legacy)
11:37 OS Expectations
#RaspberryPi #Legacy #Picamera #ExplainingComputers

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@lastinline1958
@lastinline1958 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the update, Chris. Funny things going on over there. My solution was to simply use the last version of Raspi OS Buster, which I'll be using until this clusterupgrade is settled.
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 2 жыл бұрын
Pi OS Legacy is now the last version of Pi OS Buster! But I totally get what you mean. :)
@ronaldmullins8221
@ronaldmullins8221 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking of using the former last version of Buster for my camera projects. Seeing that high resolution was messed up that might still be something to consider, not that I need anything above 1080p really
@NewAgeDIY
@NewAgeDIY 2 жыл бұрын
I have a bet of a advantage have a number of Pi’s in my collection of SBC’s. I’m running Bullseye on one of my Pi 4’s and playing with all the features. But on 2 older models I’m running buster. I believe the raspberry pi corp made on of the biggest upgrade mistakes in their history. Now we will have users from different camps all trying to get the best performance out of their boards.
@ozzymandius666
@ozzymandius666 2 жыл бұрын
@@ExplainingComputers I believe a case can be made for the cost of upgrades being baked into the price for the hardware; the cost of the hundreds of hours of coding all the upgrades being distributed among all the hardware owners in the form of a 10% or what have you increase in the up-front cost. Perhaps a new form of "open-source" will come about in which the ledgers of the companies are made public. I shan't hold my breath, though.
@ferfromla
@ferfromla 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Chris, for another informative video. I think you make a salient point about our expectations for free software. Nevertheless, the Raspberry Pi is not free. It is a piece of hardware that comes with software, much like how we buy our computers now. Very few people buy a bare-bones computer these days. So if the hardware is sold with software, it seems that there is a responsibility for the hardware vendor that loads the software to ensure that it works for the essential functions most will use. A camera is one of those. The Pi folks did respond quickly with a fix, but it is far from ideal. The other issue here has to do with expectations. If the vendor labels the OS as an upgrade, then the expectation is that it is improved and better in some way from the previous version. The lesson I suppose is that if your computer is working well, don't upgrade unless absolutely necessary. Breaking your machine is never an upgrade.
@davidglenn6468
@davidglenn6468 2 жыл бұрын
Mobile phones & their OS’s are another example where this applies.
@JakobPapirov
@JakobPapirov 2 жыл бұрын
Fully agreed. And windows10 updates, which is probably why MS forces updates (yes yes I'm aware of the security argument).
@alanthornton3530
@alanthornton3530 2 жыл бұрын
Wishing you a happy Christmas & New year! Thank you for another interesting video and the hard work put in over the years, I'm looking forward to what'll happen in 2022 and beyond :) The interesting thing is that we don't pay a penny for the OS, updates or patches. Making donations to a Linux distro of choice does help the developers to maintain it, there's no such thing as a free lunch.
@BeOurBee
@BeOurBee 2 жыл бұрын
Really glad to learn about that resolution limit in the Legacy OS, and the feature give/take between Legacy and the mainline "compatibility mode" options. The whole camera situation is a rare misstep on the part of the OS team. But even with the snafu, the foundation still has the absolute best software support among all the SBC offerings. Hopefully something a little more elegant will slip out of the pipeline soon, but if not, well, it's not the end of the world. Old APIs break all the time and legacy code will have to keep up or fall by the wayside at some point, regardless of how well the transition is/n't handled by the vendor.
@kelikmasters
@kelikmasters 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, with excellent explanation of the major differences in Pi OS / Legacy. Just wanted to wish you a Merry Christmas! Looking forward to your videos in the new year.
@Paddy_Roche
@Paddy_Roche 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Chris, I am learning a great deal from your Channel. I cannot thank you enough for the great knowledge you are sharing.
@lsav1085
@lsav1085 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the great information this year!
@ErikZarth
@ErikZarth 2 жыл бұрын
Good point about software support. Most of the time you only get one or two kernel updates on an Android phone. I gotta say I was impressed with the support on my QNAP Nas from 2012. 10 years later and still getting software updates.
@NewAgeDIY
@NewAgeDIY 2 жыл бұрын
Happy new year Chris. Great follow up video. Very fast turnaround from Raspberry Pi corp. I’m sure your last video on Bullseye problems had something to do with the quick fix!
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 2 жыл бұрын
A happy new year to you too -- the turnaround as fast indeed . . . :)
@anthonymccarthy4164
@anthonymccarthy4164 2 жыл бұрын
I make a distinction between running my computer when I need it to be secure and when I don't and when I can do what I want to do with one off line with some stable, simple programs, using old junkers instead of relying on one newer computer makes that possible. I like using Puppy Linux with a read-only optical disc as a live boot when I really need security - though who knows how long that's going to work. It is true that the current model of having enormously complex operating systems maintained for free is probably not sustainable in the long run. Very sensible commentary, one of the things I depend on from you. I hope you have a happy New Year.
@markanderson2904
@markanderson2904 2 жыл бұрын
Over the decades things that started out as freeware or shareware have morphed into payware in order to remain sustainable. Like you, I think it's inevitable that operating systems will do the same.
@wanyman
@wanyman 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video. I hope you had a happy Christmas!
@kevinshumaker3753
@kevinshumaker3753 2 жыл бұрын
As a commercial enterprise, I understand wanting to limit their exposure to a single version of an OS, however, as an educational foundation, unless they want to really toss the whole of all the legacy educational material out the window, I believe they had to come up with this 'patch' to the new Bullseye. Since they 'borrowed' Debian in the first place, most of the argument that they 'create' and 'support' the OS is specious at best. The Debian programmers and groups that create the base ARM-HF and ARM-64 images are the ones doing the 'heavy lifting'. RPiFoundation and RPiCommercial only need to support their shims and patches that fit the software to their hardware. In the future I hope they have learned at least one lesson from this issue.
@counterspace
@counterspace 2 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas and a very happy new year. Thanks for all you've done this year and I look forward to what 2022 brings for EC and ExplainingTheFuture.
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks -- and a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. Next weekend we have both an ETF and an EC video. :)
@techman2471
@techman2471 2 жыл бұрын
@@ExplainingComputers YAYYYYYYYYYYY!!!
@mikiethebikie
@mikiethebikie 2 жыл бұрын
Good comments about operating systems in general.
@darnell8897
@darnell8897 2 жыл бұрын
Chris, fantastic closing remarks at the end. A recent _Computerphile_ video about the Log4J Java vulnerablity also touches on this topic. That nearly every government, educational institution, open source project, and billion dollar company depends on software libraries that 2 guys maintain in their spare time speaks to the sorry state of open source funding and its long term sustainabilty. I don't think that many great solutions that really scale are available yet, but love that the dialogue is being started by folks like yourself Computerphile, Jeff Geerling and hopefully soon many more. Keep up the great work!
@edsteenhorst6484
@edsteenhorst6484 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this always relevant information. I wish you a belated Merry Christmas and I look forward to absorbing much more information in 2022.
@exartemarte
@exartemarte 2 жыл бұрын
Season's greetings, Christopher, and thank you for the ongoing stream of informative videos. You make a fair point about funding software support, but people will always find ways to rip off proprietary software whereas hardware, by and large, has to be paid for, so funding software from hardware profits seems to me to be a viable option. The profit on a Raspberry Pi may be small but they shift vast quantities and sell everything they can make - try buying a Pi 4 today (Boxing Day 2021), they're like hens' teeth!
@ahah8797
@ahah8797 2 жыл бұрын
Chris, as usual, very helpful video for us who try to keep up. A couple of things about Bullseye... The new windowing system is incompatible with most VNC servers. It appears to work but it's in the details that you notice missing close buttons, icons that disappear when selected and other tortures for the user. Also, most python libraries do not seem to have been updated. Can't get PIL to install, for example.
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this -- very interesting (and worrying) on Python libraries more generally.
@paulj2383
@paulj2383 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this critical information. I follow your channel and have been very please the time lapse of Growing Cress Seeds, clouds, and ice melting. I would have been lost over this new OS without your help. I fortunately new not to upgrade to the Bullseye OS. Thank you
@srtcsb
@srtcsb 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video Chris.
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve. :)
@Kw1161
@Kw1161 2 жыл бұрын
Chris: Thanks for another great video, with brain filling information....have a Happy New Year...a safe year too!
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 2 жыл бұрын
Happy new year!
@Ian_Carolan
@Ian_Carolan 2 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas Christopher, I hope Mr Scissors had lots of fun 😁
@MicrobyteAlan
@MicrobyteAlan 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another informative year. See you next year. 👍
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks my friend -- until 2022 then . . .
@poppabearskitchen1769
@poppabearskitchen1769 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent job, thank you for your time and effort.
@DigitalMentorGroup
@DigitalMentorGroup 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent comment about support of Raspberry Pi, and other OS support, Christopher! As only a few Linux distros have paid for support, it’s about time that the developers were compensated.
@jamesdecross1035
@jamesdecross1035 4 ай бұрын
Really useful explanation. I am only now encountering this problem in 2024.
@joeldoyle6359
@joeldoyle6359 2 жыл бұрын
Christopher, Happy New Year I sincerely hope 2022 is a good year for your business and continued growth for your channel.
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joel -- and a Happy new year!
@insanemainstream3633
@insanemainstream3633 2 жыл бұрын
Another great video Chris keep it up.
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@deanharrysmith718
@deanharrysmith718 2 жыл бұрын
Happy new year everyone, great videos as usual Chris
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 2 жыл бұрын
Happy new year! :)
@deanharrysmith718
@deanharrysmith718 2 жыл бұрын
@@ExplainingComputers I think we met once many many years back at an early computer show at Perdiswell Sport Centre. I remember that day as I bought a Voodoo 3dfx video card and I sure you were standing next to me.
@brick6347
@brick6347 2 жыл бұрын
Missed a chance to make it an unboxing day! Hope you had a wonderful Christmas, and that 2022 will fulfill your dreams.
@gelfling6
@gelfling6 Жыл бұрын
Chris, just got the v2.1 camera and latest version (23-02-23) seems like a whole new ballgame. just took its first picture with the libcamera-jpeg command. ouch! new commands to learn (and putting the old v1.2 camera in the box.) thanks for at least including the command for libcamera-jpeg, just a matterof learning the new interface.
@John.0z
@John.0z 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the update Chris. The problem I have had with the HQ camera has been when using a Zero, and controlling it through VNC. There is no image appearing on the remote screen image. The process of taking a photo, and saving it to a file works, but when trying to get the focus sorted that is "inconvenient". As I want to use my camera to take long series for astrophotography (powered by a phone charger battery), I have not yet worked out a satisfactory solution for outside or field focussing.
@rikprince8414
@rikprince8414 2 жыл бұрын
Nice one, Sir! Unfortunately, my Pi has sat unused for a good long while. Life getting in the way.
@DiyEcoProjects
@DiyEcoProjects 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris, Got my first Raspberry Pi 4 B+ Today :) ... fan of your for years, not time to join in lol. Have a great year ahead, all the best Kieron
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 2 жыл бұрын
Greetings Kieron! :) Enjoy your new Pi -- you have so many things ahead to try with it. Happy experimenting.
@DiyEcoProjects
@DiyEcoProjects 2 жыл бұрын
@@ExplainingComputers Hi there. Can i ask you something please? I was just wondering, ive looked at your video of other OS programs to run on the PI but it was made in 2020. Im considering the "Ubuntu-mate" as my first OS, which looks cool. Do you have a favourate in 2022 for PI 4 +B 64 ? What id like is to be able to run crypto "nodes" and earn passive income from it. So id need to able to put windows based programs on it. Do windows progs work on pi's? Also theres ones where you can earn through lending out your spare bandwidth to vpn services, and get rewards that way. It allows me to have up to 10 ip's per my single account, so laptop, mobile, work and others. They dont allow proxies Vpn's. So i was thinking of getting a business internet connection that lets me have 10 static ip's that i can connect to vm's on the PI, and in that way id have 10 connections running down my single home internet cable, just a thought 🙂 Also... Im thinking of creating my own web server so that i can have a backup ssd drive 🙂 and maybe try and create my own crypto token EEEEeee!
@alexlandherr
@alexlandherr 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not doing a “sudo apt dist-upgrade” until there’s proper Python support for the cameras. By that I mean a new Python library for Bullseye and Python 3.9.3. Great video as always Chris.
@raymondlines5404
@raymondlines5404 2 жыл бұрын
Do we have any word on who is working on the python fix and what progress they are making?
@pottytrained4233
@pottytrained4233 2 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas Chris and have a great new year and all the best :o)
@horseradishpower9947
@horseradishpower9947 2 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year Chris!
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 2 жыл бұрын
Same to you!
@ericblenner-hassett3945
@ericblenner-hassett3945 2 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of how bad some drivers were between Windows 3.11 and XP for Microsoft mice. The agrivation of hunting down the expanded drivers from the instalation disc and copying prior to the self deleting it would do before trying to actually install the drivers. On the Pi side, I am suprised that the equivalent of drivers for the cameras do not have a way to download/install in the new OS utilising the old name calls ( think Direct X naming convention and draw routines thet MSBasic let us use ) along side the 'new ' call convention. The only way I have coded this kind of thing ( over 10 years ago, so don't try this unless you like a DOS prompt ) was to do it the really old fasioned way and use Make command as well as " Make install " and be verry prepared to restore a complete drive image if it did not work.
@MrPlutoUSA
@MrPlutoUSA 2 жыл бұрын
Happy Holidays Chris!
@OffGridAussiePrepper
@OffGridAussiePrepper 2 жыл бұрын
MC and I hope we have a better new year ahead and I wish u wud do 2 vids a week.
@chrismorgan441
@chrismorgan441 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting video. Hope you had a nice Christmas. Happy New Year, Chris... may 2022 bring us all better times.
@jamesparker6876
@jamesparker6876 2 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas EC and viewers. Lots of Love, James
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks James -- and a Merry Christmas to you to! :)
@RaspberryWhy
@RaspberryWhy 2 жыл бұрын
Seasons greetings. Thanks for the interesting video Chris. Best wishes fir the new year
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 2 жыл бұрын
Festive greetings! :)
@rogerkoh1979
@rogerkoh1979 2 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas and a happy new year. OS are constantly changing. Some device stop working. It is great that a legacy version is released. Thank you for another episode. Looking forward to next year show already.
@kane100574
@kane100574 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! this helped my confusion!
@horusfalcon
@horusfalcon 2 жыл бұрын
I hear what you're saying about support for one's favorite OS: I'm one of those who makes a small payment each month to support continued development of my favorite Linux distribution. It's the least we can do, and really does help bring greater quality of development, better diversity of available software, and other benefits to the distro. Perhaps, one day, I might move to the Raspberry Pi, but for now I'll stick with the big iron. It is nice to see just how capable a Raspberry Pi 4 is in this video.
@susancarr9955
@susancarr9955 2 жыл бұрын
Good job, mate.
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@AMDRADEONRUBY
@AMDRADEONRUBY 2 жыл бұрын
Nice a new video hope you had a nice Christmas
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! You too!
@jmlineb
@jmlineb 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this Boxing Day gift!
@JohnStopman
@JohnStopman 2 жыл бұрын
Happy new year to you Chris :)
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 2 жыл бұрын
Happy new year!
@mftv3459
@mftv3459 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video Merry Christmas y'all
@davidg5898
@davidg5898 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting point about Operating Systems. The big operating systems (Windows, macOS, iOS, Android) are heavily subsidized by their cost partly being hidden in the price of new hardware and ever increasingly also by app store purchases and data collection and aggregation. But most Linux distributions don't have the benefit of having their development subsidized like that and rely heavily on donations and free labor from enthusiasts. Even the paid enterprise distros, like Red Hat, are still on old-school direct payment/licensing models.
@owendavidmalicsi5900
@owendavidmalicsi5900 2 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas Chris!
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks -- you too!
@Reziac
@Reziac 2 жыл бұрын
Good point on the problem of free software generally... it's not a self-sustaining ecosystem and if it's to be more serious than a hobby, depends on external funding one way or another. Pi has the advantage of selling hardware to support itself.
@briankleinschmidt3664
@briankleinschmidt3664 2 жыл бұрын
Floor to ceiling. I feel you're in a pinch, but you're not missing any meals. - not on purpose. Much love, brother.
@BobDoe_69
@BobDoe_69 2 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas!
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 2 жыл бұрын
Same to you!
@ronm6585
@ronm6585 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. 👍🏻
@Tree2Tool
@Tree2Tool 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry to say nothing is truly for free. When the users become the testers of newly released software of any kind, their time is wasted trying to make something defective function. Thank you for the update on the Raspberry Pi OS. Your previous presentation about the lack of backwards compatibility nudged RPi group to release a legacy version of the OS.
@chrissoskavounis4307
@chrissoskavounis4307 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Chris ! Another great video for the pi users!!! Have you tried the MX version for the pi? It is based on debian(raspberry pi os) but it is very well putted together. For my pi4 i use this one and the manjaro xfce version . Anyway give a try if you want! You will be amazed!!!
@joeg3950
@joeg3950 2 жыл бұрын
I held off purchasing a rpi camera. I think I will wait until the bugs are settled. Happy Holidays!
@daveseddon5227
@daveseddon5227 2 жыл бұрын
Getting closer!
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 2 жыл бұрын
Well said.
@Just_lift_anyone
@Just_lift_anyone 2 жыл бұрын
Happy Christmas and all the Billy best for the new year! Who knows, maybe we'll be able to buy a CM4 in 2022 🤣
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 2 жыл бұрын
:)
@pavan13
@pavan13 2 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas 🎄
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 2 жыл бұрын
Same to you!
@player07441
@player07441 2 жыл бұрын
about time and shown in this amazing vid, i would also make a joke but it would be legacy when nyou see it
@Rouxenator
@Rouxenator 2 жыл бұрын
While my Pi is only used as a home server with no cameras I have not been able to update it to Bullseye. That said, Debian seems to be the only current OS that supports 32-bit processors. I have a couple of Via C7 1ghz thin clients that I successfully installed the latest release of Debian Bullseye on (headless) with no issues and the performance is exceptional.
@Colin_Ames
@Colin_Ames 2 жыл бұрын
First of all, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. Thanks for this update, it clarifies the situation. As for your comments about our expectations when it comes to software, you make a good point. Should we really expect everything for free? I don't know the answer.
@WalterW
@WalterW 2 жыл бұрын
Happy Boxing Day! I hope everyone had a merry/happy Christmas!
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Walter. Season's Greetings to you too.
@WalterW
@WalterW 2 жыл бұрын
@@ExplainingComputers Thank you, Chris. Always enjoy the videos!
@sid_gm1949
@sid_gm1949 2 жыл бұрын
Wish you a merry Christmas and a happy new year 🎉
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, and the same to you - and everybody here!
@pavan13
@pavan13 2 жыл бұрын
Great Video
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@ShadowzGSD
@ShadowzGSD 2 жыл бұрын
Hope you had a wonderful Christmas, best wishes for a fantastic new year. Only another 50 or so videos and it will be Christmas again.
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! :) I am already planning the next 50 . . .
@BharatMohanty
@BharatMohanty 2 жыл бұрын
Greetings from India sir and merry Christmas...i am Too late.. almost forgot that today is Sunday 😂
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 2 жыл бұрын
Greetings! Festive ones no less. :)
@parrotraiser6541
@parrotraiser6541 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe I'm missing something, but running from the terminal looks as though it could have been fixed with a symbolic link or an alias setting. Python's libraries are a different kettle of frogs. P.S. thanks for keeping on schedule. Not all of us have relatives to fend off. :-)*
@fbg1907
@fbg1907 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris, I was expecting to see a video about log4j this week.
@kurtweber162
@kurtweber162 2 жыл бұрын
as always well done and presented. May I ask an off topic question? Any advice on books on Linux terminal commands? Thanks in advance, trying to guess is driving me a bit nuts. lol.
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 2 жыл бұрын
I have an intro video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZylXpiIeN-Kf7c
@pavan13
@pavan13 2 жыл бұрын
I actually have both bullseye and legacy running on different Raspberry Pi but the legacy version has an older version of chromium i.e 92 and the bullseye has chromium 95 i also updated both the os but still it has the older version of chromium in legacy version
@ratlinuxgamer2855
@ratlinuxgamer2855 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your support, most appreciated. :)
@PatrickConstant
@PatrickConstant 2 жыл бұрын
I used the distro on a new PI W zero 2 W, adding MotionEye package and it's work fine. Thanks
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 2 жыл бұрын
Good to know that worked, thanks for sharing. :)
@NicoDsSBCs
@NicoDsSBCs 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Christopher. Good there is a working solution for the camera. And I hope now the RPi foundation will push the main version to arm64. It is a bit silly to be using armhf on a powerful arm64 board. Too bad VPU drivers come in the way. They could also use a way better looking desktop too. Not needed anymore to save that much memory if they sell a 8GB version. I tried Manjaro KDE on the RPi400 and was amazed about how well it looked and ran. It used to be a lot more laggy on RPi4. Overal I like the RPi400 since it's well cooled. But the keyboard ain't very good. And there's still the known problem with non-RPi PSUs that deliver 5V instead of the 5.3V of RPi PSUs. I find that really a shame. I can't run the RPi4/400 from most power banks because of this. Always undervolting and clocked to 600Mhz without even showing it. This is a problem that is easily fixed. And no other SBC/maker has that much problems with this. Having proprietary PSU for USB(-C) is just dumb. There's finally news on the RK3588. First SBCs should come out in 1st quater of 22. I've already bought a voucher for $5 to have $50 off when it's out. I'm still waiting on the RadxaZero after perhaps 6 months. How I hate the shortages. I hope you had a great Christmas. En best of luck for 2022. Greetings. NicoD
@mc10guru
@mc10guru 2 жыл бұрын
Ahoy Chris, Thanks for letting us know about the problems with the new RPi OS. My problem is that I consider an upgrade something that can be applied over my present system. RPi OS 11 cannot do that, it has to be a new install. It took me about 7 months to get my system where it is now and don't relish that process again. I use MIDI keyboards etc and just getting MIDI working well took me almost a month.; anyone who uses Linux can tell you how finicky the sound is. I still can't use Pulseaudio and 2 months ago my Jack server broke. This happened right after a power failure messed with my SSD. I can still run my system but any attempt at a BU fails. My plan now is to get a new Bullseye system setup on a HDD on my RPi 400. When I get it all done and working I'll reformat my SSD and copy the HDD over to my SSD. Ah well, it's a long winter with time to spare here in Ohio USA. Happy Holidays! MC10Guru
@madmattman5675
@madmattman5675 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I just have one quick question: Is there any news on whether the camera will work on a pi02w on bullseye using the new stack? 🙂 Tanks!
@sid_gm1949
@sid_gm1949 2 жыл бұрын
And here we meet again Greetings
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 2 жыл бұрын
Greetings! :)
@philspencelayh5464
@philspencelayh5464 2 жыл бұрын
Good rundown on the changes. The cost of OS's is a bit of a paradox, it's why I'm on Linux, got sick of buying Microsoft products, I don't mind paying for them but do mind when a few years down the line you are told to cough up for a new OS because it won't work anymore. I don't use the current free versions because once you're on Linux you realise you don't need it.
@rpavlik1
@rpavlik1 2 жыл бұрын
Weird about the resolution quirk, looks like not enough memory assigned to the camera interface as it says "not enough resources". Hopefully it's a simple oops and fix.
@frozensolidupnorth
@frozensolidupnorth 2 жыл бұрын
Happy New Year. I get what you mean about endless updates how ever I have an Android tablet that will not let me upgrade and now can't run apps like KZbin, Twitter, etc so a perfectly good tablet will now have to be replaced with a newer one. Planned obselescence IMO.
@rivertees
@rivertees 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your support, most appreciated. :)
@Noxeus1996
@Noxeus1996 2 жыл бұрын
Regarding OS support: recently a German law was passed that requires manufacturers of digital devices to provide software updates for the expected life span of a product because for many products at some point the manufacturer just stops providing updates or shuts down a server that is essential for the product to function.
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 2 жыл бұрын
I very interesting law that I fully support. It is terrible how many tablets, smart phones and TVs stop getting updates after only a few years.
@perrymcclusky4695
@perrymcclusky4695 2 жыл бұрын
I buy a computer and get the operating system free. Yet, for many of us, that free system eventually dictates that we buy a new computer. Isn’t technology fascinating. I’m sure Mr. Scissors and Stanley the Knife could cut straight through to a proper solution. Looking forward too your next video!
@fredflintstone1
@fredflintstone1 2 жыл бұрын
Happy New year, as a new user should I bother with legacy or just use bullseye and progress from there and use the new camera driver??
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 2 жыл бұрын
It depends what you want to do with the camera. If you want to access it using Python code (including doing any of the existing projects or tutorials you may find online), you have to use the Legacy OS.
@steveoddlers9696
@steveoddlers9696 2 жыл бұрын
That screen around the 4-minute-mark looks like it's asking me whether I have Soundblaster or Adlib sound.
@user-pk8fr8ix6d
@user-pk8fr8ix6d 2 жыл бұрын
It's kinda weird that they rolled out 'legacy' image but not used it to help to switch mainline OS to 64-bit version. Someone at RPiF started celebrating new year way too early
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. If we are (as now) going to have "new" and "legacy", then there seems very little reason not to make the new OS 64-bit.
@SergiuszRoszczyk
@SergiuszRoszczyk 2 жыл бұрын
@@ExplainingComputers I agree! 64-bit OS image still doesn't have Pi Zero 2 device tree file and you have to hack it by copying Pi3B dtb file.
@sbc_tinkerer
@sbc_tinkerer 2 жыл бұрын
Happy holidays! Here we are, back again, for another fine videoooo. Trade offs galore by going legacy but nice to see the availability for the legacy needs. “OSes are always a work in progress” as is our “species.” 🙄
@IncertusetNescio
@IncertusetNescio 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting that the crash states "Failed to enable component: Out of resources". I wonder if it's a driver limitation where it tries to allocate more pixel memory space than the driver is able to handle at those higher resolutions (definitely NOT a 4GB limit, my napkin math for a 8-bit depth picture raw at the max res is >256MB,
@sanjayrevanna8903
@sanjayrevanna8903 2 жыл бұрын
iam currently running the raspberry pi OS and have been coding for the self driving project and now I have a problem with the camera not being working with the current OS and many have insisted to install the legacy OS , but if I need to install the legacy os will the existing work which I have done be erased ?
@Michael-pw1gc
@Michael-pw1gc Жыл бұрын
I do have problems with the bullseye os. My camera don't get recognised and if I try to youse libcam-hello my os give me a error massage of something, that is documented but the fix don't work
@Griffon37
@Griffon37 Жыл бұрын
Chris, can I ask where your red Pi base comes from as it looks like a great solution for desk access and stability
@lorderectus1849
@lorderectus1849 2 жыл бұрын
Rudolf is quite red this time of year!
@kurtgreter9841
@kurtgreter9841 2 жыл бұрын
Very good work, as usual. So far everything is going very well, only the command raspistill -t 0 shows no image. But would be important to focus. Do you have a solution for this? Thanks!
@IanSlothieRolfe
@IanSlothieRolfe 2 жыл бұрын
I do accept your comments regarding the evolving nature of free OS development, but I am puzzled why they couldn't solve this without needing a "legacy" version of Raspian. Clearly in the raspi-config they are doing some shuffling around of shared libraries, so if the "old" libraries are being substituted why couldn't they allow the pycamera library to work with these old libraries enabled? Perhaps camera support is too tightly linked into the Kernel. It would also have been more "pythonic" to have the new python library backward compatible, so that you just include 'pycamera' as before and python uses the libraries that are installed. That would have meant that all the examples and tutorials out there would still apply, even if they now miss out on new features. Given the educational nature of the Raspberry Pi Iwould have thought that this would have been an important consideration for the foundation.
@cdl0
@cdl0 2 жыл бұрын
This should be true; however, I suspect that there are some proprietary, close-source, binary blobs involved somewhere, and less than full, open documentation of the hardware, which makes the camera system more difficult to fix than it ought to be. You have no right to repair!
@cjlowe1650
@cjlowe1650 2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know how long Pi foundation will support the Legacy version? Before we are force to re-write all our code????
@pranavpatil1004
@pranavpatil1004 2 жыл бұрын
I am having an issue ,i.e. the pictures the camera is clicking are blurry. Can you give any solution to that . We are using Buster OS(Raspberry Pi OS(Legacy). We are using 8MP ptz arducam camera.
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