A Story Skip Option SHOULD NOT BE CONTROVERSIAL | Genshin Impact

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Ratheil

Ratheil

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There's no rational reason to reject a skip button. Don't like it? Don't use it. Not like it matters because I seriously doubt we'll ever get one.
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@ink4852
@ink4852 4 ай бұрын
"I'm aware that you can speed through the delay by pressing a button". Even then there seems to be a slight cooldown or something on how fast you can push the button in succession and then there are those very strange lines of dialogue that just literally can't be skipped for no damn reason.
@Ultrazaubererger
@Ultrazaubererger 4 ай бұрын
The unskippable lines are usually accompanied by an animation or a camera movement.
@Sosuke0727
@Sosuke0727 4 ай бұрын
There is delays because players used third party exe to Speed up the dialogue and get primogems
@Vardanix2468
@Vardanix2468 4 ай бұрын
@@Sosuke0727Lol really? Fuckin hell
@Yugira
@Yugira 4 ай бұрын
@@Sosuke0727You can still do that if you throttle your internet connection. I also made a macro that immediatly starts when a dialog happens, so that I dont do the setup manually all the time. Thats how I still skip all the dialog to this day
@ink4852
@ink4852 4 ай бұрын
@@Yugira Teach me your ways!
@dinosonzii
@dinosonzii 4 ай бұрын
I'm like the polar opposite of Ratheil, I play primarily for the story and I love to read, and I do all the archon, world, and side quests - AND I NEED A SKIP OPTION. I read faster than the dialogue is voiced and if the dialogue is just paimon wanting to eat or a character I don't like exchanging 5 minutes of pleasantries then I want to skip it. The option to skip will benefit all types of players.
@pokedude720
@pokedude720 4 ай бұрын
Same, plus would help with the repetitive comms once you exhaust the exploration points.
@beverlyrussell8034
@beverlyrussell8034 4 ай бұрын
Yes, being forced to be slow when I read so fast is frustrating!
@alexprus7953
@alexprus7953 4 ай бұрын
​@@beverlyrussell8034or when the wifi reconnects and you have to skip through a 10 minute section again for no reason 🙃
@dirnaras2887
@dirnaras2887 4 ай бұрын
Paimon wasting time with her hungry routine became so stale that I now skip pretty much every phrase this void critter produces. Kudos for pleasantries as well. This is something I strarted to notice more and more, the dialogue may be so unnatural at times. When all the chars compete in how much politeness chuff could be put in, it not only drags on way more than necessary but also is hard to follow especially if a foreign voice over is used. And the fact that cutscenes are not even guaranteed to play out due to user interaction prompts is infuriating. I can't even go to make some cofee or whatnot without the stupid dilaogue getting stuck. What's worse is that sometimes in LIFE things happen, when I need to quit the game and go somewhere, or do something, and it is absurd that untill the freaking dialogue is played through I cannot even do that. I have to terminate the game executable itself to do that...
@asjgamz
@asjgamz 4 ай бұрын
Same here, I already read the voice line before the character finishes, I think sometimes something like option for 2x speed will be good addition too...
@Ragamuffin836
@Ragamuffin836 4 ай бұрын
*Traveler meets new character* Paimon: I want to eat food! Black screen with white text: *You and Paimon eat delicious food* *You go on an adventure* Paimon: I want to eat food! Black screen with white text: *You and Paimon eat delicious food* *Adventure ends* Paimon: I want to eat food! Black screen with white text: *You and Paimon eat delicious food*
@Goremize
@Goremize 4 ай бұрын
*Walks into a random area* NPC: "Hey Traveller, please go through this long discussion with me" Paimon: "Hey Traveller, you need to do X by the looks, do you agree" Discussion ends, Paimon: "Hey Traveller, you need to go to X spot but only after 2 days of game time" 2 days later Paimon: "Hey Traveller, lets go to X spot now we can because the quests turns on" When you arrive at X spot: "Hey Traveller, remember random NPC said to do this" I just want the Traveller to say "I KNOW PAIMON SHUT UP".
@sweetieswifey627
@sweetieswifey627 4 ай бұрын
​@@Goremize she's literally our guide, tf you want her to do bruh That's crazy that people are forgetting her role in all of this. Hell if it wasn't for the indicator in game I'd forget "oh it's been two in game days huh", so sometimes I'm glad I get to be reminded in a simple way
@tgceltic3429
@tgceltic3429 4 ай бұрын
^^talk less that's all, be less annoying
@TsukatsukiRio
@TsukatsukiRio 4 ай бұрын
@@sweetieswifey627we just want traveler to talk more instead of her
@Goremize
@Goremize 4 ай бұрын
@@tgceltic3429 This^
@jamesinnersky
@jamesinnersky 4 ай бұрын
It doesn't exists in Genshin only to stimulate numbers of clicks and time you spend being in a game. Also no matter what you do you won't force people who doesn't want to read your story into reading it. It's just a matter of grinding free statistics for investors I think. Can't think of any other good reason why it's still not in the game.
@hectorlackless
@hectorlackless 4 ай бұрын
Also to desincentivice the use of alternate accounts and rerolling as mentioned in the video
@blanc2181
@blanc2181 4 ай бұрын
@@hectorlackless maybe, but they could very easily just not implement dialogue skipping in the main questline, or until certain parts, say after the dungeons where you unlock Kaeya and Lisa? WutheringWaves has dialogue skip for everything outside the main questline
@Goremize
@Goremize 4 ай бұрын
ah good point, considering the current lantern rite "event" is just go to x for story, click the screen a thousand times, go to next space for story, click more. Featuring a "stealth" section that is just follow x to x spot. Then click more, then wait, then click more, and click some more, and click some more. Choose a kite then click some more. Then click, then watch a cut scene, then click some more, and click some more all while moving from x to x spot and selecting "choices" that don't matter. If you could skip, you could get the rewards from the quests super fast but then yes, they'd not get their numbers to show off of extra game time and clicks. At least we had a few fun minigames... but even that felt like less then previous Lantern rites, considering we had a boss fight before and the original tower defence mini game in the first one before it was changed.
@sweetieswifey627
@sweetieswifey627 4 ай бұрын
​@@Goremize bro what, Lantern Rite is one of the most important things in game, of course it's going to be mostly story. The actual event gameplay is secondary, and that is just factual Why else can you just do all the gameplay all at once after however many days and things like that
@blanc2181
@blanc2181 4 ай бұрын
@@sweetieswifey627 But in the past it WASNT mostly story, the minigames and other engaging content in lantern rite were hugely integral to enjoying the content, it was very equal parts story to minigames to action/combat content. I think this generally highlights what Rath was talking about in the video with how the presentation of the story content makes a good story suffer. Many people don't enjoy story content when it's going from person to person like a fetch quest, even if they like the characters and actual plot - if the devs put a bit more time and effort into engaging users through the story and dialogue, then maybe we'd be in a different position with wanting a story skip haha
@rexevan6714
@rexevan6714 4 ай бұрын
Having the option is always better than not
@funnycutememes
@funnycutememes 4 ай бұрын
Shhhh....you can't have opinions and critisism.....you have to keep d¡Ck riding and defending a multi billion dollar company
@onewingedangelsephiroth1561
@onewingedangelsephiroth1561 4 ай бұрын
If skip unlocked at AR45 and wasn't available for Archon Quests then everyone would win.
@sweetieswifey627
@sweetieswifey627 4 ай бұрын
Honestly, true asf Potentially have it not be available for Story quests as well but maybe that's just me
@Axterix13
@Axterix13 4 ай бұрын
You could drop that down to AR20. And there's no reason not to be able to skip the archon quests cutscenes. The quests are often rather bloated, as they exist to introduce new characters, characters that might not interest someone. So being able to skip a chunk of that would be great. I didn't need all that Ace Attorney garbage in the Fontaine quest line. I'm sure plenty did enjoy it, and that's fine, but to me, it was just another example of Genshin ignoring its core game play loop to add in other stuff, stuff that doesn't interest me.
@azuarc
@azuarc 4 ай бұрын
This, or just not applying to the prologue.
@michele_
@michele_ 4 ай бұрын
And by everyone you meant us and mihoyo right? Because not having it is only a bad thing for mihoyo not us players, even if we're talking about players that enjoy the story Players that enjoy the story could just not use it/use it less
@yamidanne
@yamidanne 4 ай бұрын
You could go far lower than 45. Just make it annoying enough for those abusing re-rolls so this poor poor company gets to keep their very precious dollars.
@helloidontknow4543
@helloidontknow4543 4 ай бұрын
Just introduce the skip button later a bit after the intro of the game and that negates the account rerolling. I think having double accounts is already a chore enough with exploration etc that they can just let them have the button lol
@hooplah6177
@hooplah6177 4 ай бұрын
The bad thing about the dialogue and how clunky and EXTREMELY wordy it is is i'll go into a quest caring about listening to it (yeah even when its voiced) but then because it drones on i'll click right through it anyway. So many quests I just gave up on caring about listening through to the end because it's either not written well or because 75% of the character feel like they are writing a college thesis about shrimp or something that DOESNT matter. I think the worldbuilding is really solid, but the moment to moment decor is a slog..
@ironheadedDoF
@ironheadedDoF 4 ай бұрын
And screechy paimon replacing the protagonist.. gez. Much of the dialog bloat is paimon yapping it up and baiting NPC's into responses... and then paimon will repeat it to you.
@kylec8015
@kylec8015 4 ай бұрын
100% agree that they aren't doing themselves any favors with meandering/disjointed dialogue. My position would be that the dialogue should then be fixed/improved, instead of incentivizing people to want to skip lol. A skip button would be treating the symptom not the cause.
@zencaia3064
@zencaia3064 4 ай бұрын
I feel the droning most when it comes to the people you have to talk to to start a mini game. Like they just go on and on and on and I just AAHHHH
@yeetuspatronus1050
@yeetuspatronus1050 4 ай бұрын
THIS. I hate how bloated genshin dialogue is, all talk with no actual context. I'm tired of the yaps, especially when the character talks slowly like GADDAMN LET ME OUT OF HEREE
@Bliss467
@Bliss467 4 ай бұрын
For a ski- button, I think they need to add a way to replay quests.
@EclipticRaisin
@EclipticRaisin 4 ай бұрын
Yes, especially the archon quests and story quests. It should be in the menu with all the completed main quests, since you can already read the script from there.
@aliwi3476
@aliwi3476 3 ай бұрын
New game + 😅🗿
@stevem.9340
@stevem.9340 4 ай бұрын
I get they try to be like Mass Effect or Witcher but those games has those dialogue choices for a reason.
@MyVanir
@MyVanir 4 ай бұрын
And there, your choices actually fucking matter!
@lumeepi
@lumeepi 4 ай бұрын
I personally would never use a skip button since for me the story is part of the experience, but not everyone is me or like me. The option won't harm anyone. If someone wants to play but not see story, that should be up to them.
@1Henrink
@1Henrink 4 ай бұрын
I think this video really hit every point that I can think of. As you said I know people that quit Genshin because of how long the story was.
@Dev-bn8ps
@Dev-bn8ps 4 ай бұрын
6:48 That would be a nightmare for story focused players ngl 💀
@pumpkinkurbis
@pumpkinkurbis 4 ай бұрын
Just like not having a skip button is a nightmare for anyone playing the game for... Well anything that is not the story.
@KlockoArt
@KlockoArt 4 ай бұрын
That's the point. It would be a nightmare for those who care about or focus on the story, just like how not having a skip button is a nightmare for those who *dont* care about or focus on the story.
@Sosuke0727
@Sosuke0727 4 ай бұрын
​@@KlockoArtwhy are you here then? Just combat and look at a .s ?🤦
@KlockoArt
@KlockoArt 4 ай бұрын
@@Sosuke0727Combat, exploration, character progression and story. I like the archon quests and some of the character quests, as well as most big event stories, but i couldn't give less of a shit about stuff like random world quests, and quest lines that arent voiced are immediately off putting to me and take me out of the narrative a ton. The combat of the game is engaging and fun, the character progression is a bit of a grind but it's satisfying watching them get stronger, the exploration is enjoyable with plenty of things to do and see and only improves with time, and certain chunks of the story are very enjoyable and really well written. But being forced to engage with parts of the game you don't enjoy, such as the unskippable dialogue and more often than not unvoiced cutscenes of a large number of world quests in order to help progress the world or characters is really frustrating. You can try and argue "well just don't do it" but you can't just NOT do certain activities in the game because more content is actively locked behind it (such as the boss for raiden level up being locked behind a questline or a lot of features of sumeru being locked behind the aranara quests). Most people aren't in a black and white "i hate all story i dont want it to exist" or "i care only about the story and nothing else, make genshin a visual novel". It's always a grey area and everyone has different things they enjoy about the game. And hell, for the people in the latter camp that do exist, an additional, OPTIONAL skip button doesn't impact them in any way shape or form. Because it's just that: optional. Just because a skip button is added does not mean you HAVE to use it, it's just an option for those who want to.
@Sosuke0727
@Sosuke0727 4 ай бұрын
@@KlockoArt It's very simple why are voiceless quest The game would be too heavy for mobile. More than it's right now 🤷🤷
@jarrenraves
@jarrenraves 4 ай бұрын
I didn't care about this issue one way or the other until I started an alt account to get myself through some sick leave. On my main account I still wouldn't use it but lack of skip became quite a sore spot on a repeat playthrough. And with that said... DAMN man! Not the first time I got this impression but you sound like the polar opposite to me in EVERYTHING media related! I found myself agreeing with your point even as I died inside listening to your media consumption habits. To each their own. This is in no way meant as an attack, I just found it funny. Personally I'd sit through a 100 hours of unskippable genshin story before I'd willingly touch borderlands again and if a film makes me take out my phone then its categorically not a film worth watching. With a few notable exceptions, a piece of media either gets 100% of my attention or not a single shred of it.
@Melotaku
@Melotaku 4 ай бұрын
I’m just like you haha
@bashooi
@bashooi 4 ай бұрын
Yeah me too.
@pokedude720
@pokedude720 2 ай бұрын
Same, I only do the multitasking of I'm only semi-intersested in whatever the media is
@guy7384
@guy7384 4 ай бұрын
8:42 when you killed those other sea horses the larger one looked like it was in shock and was saying "Johnny, Johnny, JOHNNYYYYYYYYY!!!??"
@RachelRambles69
@RachelRambles69 4 ай бұрын
I never understood the "Genshin is a story-based game" argument, because it really isn't? Or at least the main point of the game isn't just playing the story. Games like Ace Attorney or Danganronpa are story-based games, they are literally visual novels. Why would you skip the dialogue of a game that's only dialogue, yknow? But Genshin is an open-world RPG with so many different ways to play that saying there's only one way to play is quite frankly ridiculous. You literally don't even have to finish the main archon quest to do 90% of the content in the game. I don't particularly care for the unvoiced sidequests in this game and that's okay because I'm still enjoying myself playing events or doing stuff in co-op with my friends. But if someone really loves immersing themselves in the world and meeting characters in quests like Jeht's quest or the Aranara quest, then that's okay too because they're still having fun!! And both ways of playing are fine! Stop policing how people should have fun, it's a game y'all it's not life or death
@xingyunyuri
@xingyunyuri 4 ай бұрын
RIGHTT and you can literally fast forward dialogue in danganronpa and also access a backlog of dialogue so you can quickly skim through what the characters have said,,, its not like a skip button is going to delete the story or anything
@fanafelgminecraft5789
@fanafelgminecraft5789 4 ай бұрын
genshins whole thing is the story tf did you smoke? everything about it is the story the other things in the game are there so ppl wont complain about there being not alot of story and so they can call it a game
@samielkhosht1086
@samielkhosht1086 Ай бұрын
@@fanafelgminecraft5789 nice if you think that way then you can. But a lot of People dont as you see
@fanafelgminecraft5789
@fanafelgminecraft5789 Ай бұрын
@@samielkhosht1086 this isnt an opinion its a fact i stated so its not a "nice if you think that way then you can. But a lot of People dont as you see" its just a fact that is what genshin is
@trollking6315
@trollking6315 29 күн бұрын
@@fanafelgminecraft5789 Story my butt. If your game is a "story based game" explain how that "story" only comes out like once a year at best. All the filler between is is PLAYING the game. Getting dailies done, killing shit, running spiral, finishing the battlepass, working on your dang teapot, the list goes on. Your precious voiced STORY only happens once a year and for at best 2-3 patches. Fontaines main story ended after 4.2 ffs. Sit down clown. You want a story with no gameplay go f*ck off to tell tale. Oh wait, they shut down because that narrative is BORING for a medium that is supposed to be interactive. And no, the midroll traveller dialogue where they have "eeeehhh" kind of basic ass anime over reactions to small things is NOT interaction, it is interruption. Heres your makeup 🤡 Notifs are off, good luck replying clown. *If we have a skip button in domains no excuse for one not in story k thanks bye*
@PsQueak2
@PsQueak2 4 ай бұрын
Genshin community when I say I'd like more gameplay and endgame content: "Genshin isn't meant to be played hours a day, all day. It's a game for people to just log onto every day for a few minutes at a time, then go about your day. If you want a game to play for hours at a time you're playing the wrong game." Genshin community when I say I'd like a skip button so I can go about my day: "Genshin is a story game, you're supposed to pay attention to the story. You're supposed to take your time and pay attention to the story and lore. If you want a game to just skip through, you're playing the wrong game." Two of the most incongruent statements ever. That's why I don't pay attention to this blasted community. If I say I want to immerse myself in the world, story, and hours of play, I'm told this is a game to just play for a bit and go about my day. But if I say I want a skip button so I can go about my day... I'm told I'm playing wrong, and should spend hours of my time on story and lore alone.
@skyhart9926
@skyhart9926 4 ай бұрын
Yep, i agree. When you encounter genshin players who are f-tards, they really are. They lack sound reasoning. They’re inconsistent. They are blind as it gets. That’s why Hoyoverse has successfully manipulated them to dance like puppets.
@Dojafish
@Dojafish 4 ай бұрын
They are right for the first part . Genshing isn't that type of game and this has been accepted long time ago . Literally more endgame won't fix any issues with the game and only satisfy a small part of the communtiy.
@nah131
@nah131 4 ай бұрын
@@Dojafish that is why most hardcore players will move to WuWa as they are better in end game contents plus the combat itself, I and my friends too will move to there
@plvto1
@plvto1 4 ай бұрын
easy solution is to stay out of the community imo. there's no reason to interact with these hooligans, especially when they get offended over how I wanted to play MY game. how such a calm and tranquil game could have such a terrible and stressful community is beyond me.
@SageRuffin
@SageRuffin 4 ай бұрын
@@nah131 This isn't a knock against you at all, but comments like this just make me wonder why Genshin's combat is so intricate. If the combat really is supposed to be just a means to an end and shouldn't really be a focus for anyone, why is the reaction system so complex (e.g. "Reverse" and "Forward" reactions)? Why is Elemental Gauge Theory a thing (i.e. certain reactions actually behave differently depending on how they're done)? Why are there so many weapons and artifact sets with different properties, triggers, and bonuses? Why are character constellations a thing, designed to almost universally provide a power or utility boost of some kind? The list goes on. Hoyo could've just simplified the combat, gave everyone a generic weapon with no passives, and then just go balls out on skins instead. Not everyone is going to go for constellations or refinements, even for their favorite characters. _A sizeable chunk of people are going to want to dress those favorites up in fun and interesting outfits,_ so long as they're reasonably priced. Hell, to use myself as an example, Kokomi is one of my least favorite characters, so I'm not going for her constellations even if you hold me at gunpoint. But if she ever got her old "Mimi" design as a skin, I not lying when I say it would be a Day 1 purchase. I don't get it. Why give us all this power and then almost penalize us for wanting to experiment with and use it once we're done with story and exploration?
@rsg_magfire
@rsg_magfire 4 ай бұрын
The dialogue being tied to its own camera angle/camera panning made the dialogue even harder to skip...
@ocean4494
@ocean4494 4 ай бұрын
"babysitting" the cutscene is SUCH a good way to put it. the illusion of choice infuriates me beyond belief. it absolutely IS an "are you still watching button" except the dialogue literally never changes no matter what you choose, as opposed to HSR, which has really witty, meaningful dialogue differences based on your different choices, even the simple ones. as the game has continued, genshin's "choices" have become so asinine and childish, and are just there to make you waste more time on scenes that have no meaning. it pisses me off so intensely
@sweetieswifey627
@sweetieswifey627 4 ай бұрын
The fact that so many of you clearly haven't payed enough attention to know that not every dialoge option is like that genuinely amazes me. "Illusion of choice" okay man sure
@Goremize
@Goremize 4 ай бұрын
@@sweetieswifey627 Do you even understand what the definition of illusion of choice is? No matter what you pick in Genshin, you have the same outcome. Every single time. In other games what you picked changed objectives or outcomes of entire nations. In Genshin, its the same no matter what.
@jamesinnersky
@jamesinnersky 4 ай бұрын
@@sweetieswifey627You're coping so hard it's INSANE. I've been playing and reading Genshin story since release (for the most part, I've skipped very few quests) and recently picked up HSR and in HSR choices really are way more meaningful/funny/important, unlike in Genshin where choices usually like: "Yes", "Let's do it!", "Of course!" etc.
@effortlessfury
@effortlessfury 4 ай бұрын
@@GoremizeSame with Persona. This isn't a problem there, why is it a problem here?
@sleet9289
@sleet9289 4 ай бұрын
Well, sometimes your choice does give you slightly different dialogue but yeah, if it changed the outcome (even just a little) it would be nice. Genshin is my preferred game so i will defend it by saying that the dialogue can somewhat amusing but yeah HRS's is just better, honestly.
@Evie0133
@Evie0133 4 ай бұрын
I want the skip button purely for playing my alt accounts lmao, I do experience the story in its entirety on my main account but I don't wanna see it over and over again with such frequency 🥺
@wits_end.
@wits_end. 4 ай бұрын
So don't play on your alt accounts? Pretty simple solution.
@grahamnu1529
@grahamnu1529 4 ай бұрын
My main account is my alt account. I just like playing other things too, I don't have all the time in the world.
@michele_
@michele_ 4 ай бұрын
@@wits_end.but it's good and fun to have alt accounts, not having them is less fun for some players, like me But this is another big obstacle
@michele_
@michele_ 4 ай бұрын
@@grahamnu1529some people still want to have two or more accounts
@vamppooni
@vamppooni 4 ай бұрын
​@@wits_end.god yall are useless
@Dr4g0n727
@Dr4g0n727 4 ай бұрын
I won't even lie whenever I have to do a non voiced quest I just zone out, I usually get like a basic idea of what happens in the quest but if you asked me to go into specific details I would not be able to tell you
@jajathenewking6131
@jajathenewking6131 4 ай бұрын
I choose not to skip in my first run but the 2nd or the 3rd time you play, I would love a skip button just so I could enjoy the gameplay.
@plvto1
@plvto1 4 ай бұрын
all i know is that if it does get added into the game, people will stop caring so much anymore and it wont be a big deal when they realize "oh wait, i can just not use it"
@UndeadAlv
@UndeadAlv 4 ай бұрын
It is pretty obvious that it is not about using or not It's a philosophy decision based on the fact that Genshin emphasizes on narrative and story My personal opinion is that the writing is so clunky and redundant, they are not doing either thing well enough The game is hardly cinematic and I'll be honest, as much as I love the areas and exploration, I feel like getting slower updates, but a story that is told in a better way would be more enjoyable But coming back to the skip button, I don't like that solution because it really feels cheap- Don't get me wrong, I think it would do well if they add it, but it would also be perfect if they fix the narrative issues too
@plvto1
@plvto1 4 ай бұрын
​@@UndeadAlv My main point is, even games with emphasis on story let you skip them. I said in his last video, games like the Persona series let you skip all the dialogue no matter how important it is. And given how the series is, their story is definitely very key to understanding what's going on and why. So there's not really an excuse for Genshin to not have one imo, and the people acting like wanting it is a sin punishable by death just make me dislike it a lot more.
@clericneokun
@clericneokun 4 ай бұрын
Basically, yeah. Hoyo doesn't need feedback for this specific non-issue. They should just add it in without any fanfare and the troglodytes will eventually shut up once they realize that they don't even notice it while playing.
@demonking-zm3rs
@demonking-zm3rs 4 ай бұрын
​@@plvto1Persona doesn't really have a Skip Button. Also a Skip Button usually exist as a means of replay in Genshin the content is One Time Only But in Persona if you actually press the Skip Button outside the Animated Scenes it actually doesn't go any faster(Same in Combat) It's a trick they added for example the streak lines. if you look at the the speed in which the dialogue is moving its the same speed it would go if you just clicked the X button The animation In the scene plays out at the same speed when playing normally just like in Genshin So Persona fakes a skip button I don't know about Reloaded maybe they just made it a full Skip but Persona 3 4 and 5 are pretending to skip outside certain cinematics
@paulyvii
@paulyvii 4 ай бұрын
adding it will benefit those who don't give a flying fu about the story and will do nothing to people who pay close attention to the story
@CaptainMeleon
@CaptainMeleon 4 ай бұрын
what annoys me the most is the delays and the dialogue options that sometimes have the EXACT SAME RESPONSES
@lenoria
@lenoria 4 ай бұрын
games like granblue relink allowing you to skip the entire story and giving a short summary is nice. sometimes people just want to smack enemies and they don't care about the dialogue. but i don't think genshin will ever add a skip button, ever. this will be the 4th year of genshin and they still have never mentioned adding a skip button.
@courtney6816
@courtney6816 4 ай бұрын
As someone who primarily loves Genshin for the open world exploration, I usually start most world quests pretty interested in the lore and current situation of the environment as I’m exploring. But with Fontaine and Sumeru especially, world quests having unskippable dialog sucks so much. It’s especially annoying because I started so invested, but most major NPCs involved in the world quest either talk in weird speech patterns, use different words to refer to terms the game has already taught you as another word, are cryptic with everything they say whether intentional or not, and just generally make me not care about anything that’s going on because it’s so annoying to parse everything that’s being revealed when it’s not stated plainly most of the time. This happened with the Aranara, the Pari, and Narzissenkreuz stuff as just recent examples. Also, honorable mention to the awful unavoidable word dump you have to click through whenever you want to use a limited-time domain for the first time since there’s always an NPC next to the domain entrance waiting to talk your ear off. Why do we need like an essay’s worth of backstory and setting the stage for why the person wants you to go and use the domain? I feel like a brief three or four sentences would be just fine.
@alexprus7953
@alexprus7953 4 ай бұрын
Big agree on the event domain stuff. If it's nothing lore relevant, then why do we need to listen to a whole ass speech from some random NPC?
@alexprus7953
@alexprus7953 4 ай бұрын
The most annoying part for me is trying to play through quests with poor wifi connection. After every reconnection you have to play through an entire section again, which can take a few minutes, even when clicking through the dialogue as quickly as possible, and it's extremely annoying. A skip button would easily fix this issue.
@tyshen0329
@tyshen0329 4 ай бұрын
Just to add more context, the way to fix the game is not necessarily to add skip buttons, but to improve the quality of dialogue themselves to be more concise instead of bloating everything up to make people wanting to skip in the first place. e.g. Keqing's dialogue in this Lantern Rite event, and how she managed to climb up the ladders of the most annoying playable character imaginable: Paimon: "Kites are toys" Keqing: "I disagree" *Proceeds to explain the cultural history of kites with walls of text* Ah yes I play Genshin for throwaway lores. Let's be fair these are more like product placement in games more than anything else, just like KZbin ads. Nobody wanted them but how else do they get you exposed to their products packaged as colorful characters? (But let's be fair I hate Keqing even more if she's been portrayed as this know-it-all when she disagrees with something) That being said, it is indeed odd that world quests don't get skip buttons, and the fact that Fontaine commissions are getting exceedingly way more wordy compared to ones from previous regions says a lot about how prideful the dev team are with bloating their word counts (it was even used as their anniversary statistic reveal). Just like what other comments have already mentioned, asking for skip buttons hasn't been an issue in star rail because even the sidequest dialogues there are actually interesting (The most notable ones being the dreamscape ones with Lesley Dean/Cocona/Chadwick).
@sweetieswifey627
@sweetieswifey627 4 ай бұрын
Walls of text? It was barely like a paragraph and a half If your reading comprehension is that bad just say so Also, "product placement"? You do know she's a standard banner character right? Lol And the whole theme of that Lantern Rite was *kites* so if not her then somebody would've explained it. It was just fitting that it was her, that's all It's truly that simple
@tyshen0329
@tyshen0329 4 ай бұрын
@eswifey627 I mean you can still buy her character skin, but picking keqing out of all the 5 stars was indeed not a good example but you get the idea. Also, you are telling me I had to sit through her talk about kite as if it were related to the story plot? Sure mate you do your own thing.
@Naruto4995
@Naruto4995 4 ай бұрын
That only tackles half of the issue I say. Especially if we're taking the gameplay enthusiast into account, or folks who don't enjoy certain characters, or people who play on multiple accounts too. I think the 1st and 3rd I've mentioned warrant the most attention for folks. It might not be the 'answer', but I do say it's better there than without, know what I mean? Also what you said on the commissions are so damn true. lol. It normally just do a button mashing contest on those, or personally not explore the world to go get treasure and save myself the mental exhaustion from going through all that.
@sweetieswifey627
@sweetieswifey627 4 ай бұрын
@@tyshen0329 it was quite literally related to the story, what do you not understand. The Lantern Rite's theme for this year was *kites* so knowing the significance of the kites and different kinds of kites, is literally a part of all of that
@fanafelgminecraft5789
@fanafelgminecraft5789 4 ай бұрын
@@sweetieswifey627 ahh yes a thing about kites ofc it will have kites in it its not rocket sience yet ppl dont really listen sadly
@dajalsejakdini
@dajalsejakdini 4 ай бұрын
Finally!! I've been waiting for your weekly quality content you honestly deserve waaay more subs keep it up!!
@JustRizaru
@JustRizaru 4 ай бұрын
U dropped this, king 👑
@Kekvin
@Kekvin 4 ай бұрын
Great Video. The amount of gatekeeping on this subject is infuriating. Some of the MOST successful content creators in the Genshin space is people who do these "new account" series ie: JavaTheCup, MistahFeet, Deelo, etc... They have to spend HOURS of there lives redoing dialogue for content. Its not fun, its extremely draining, and really boring, if they added a skip button the amount of content that creators could make from it would be exponential.
@xanaviii
@xanaviii 4 ай бұрын
FGO is basically a visual novel gacha game. Has a skip button. The Fate franchise itself started as a visual novel. Even the original VISUAL NOVEL has a skip button. And reading is literally the only gameplay.
@Kaoskuma
@Kaoskuma 4 ай бұрын
Also, fgo is 8 years old and had skip story button from day 1.
@MyVanir
@MyVanir 4 ай бұрын
Heck, they even caved and added three different ways to speed-up combat.
@paulyvii
@paulyvii 4 ай бұрын
A skip button would be revolutionary. As someone who doesn't have a lot of free time with work, sitting through hours and hours of unskippable dialogue is a giant turn off. Especially with the recent Lantern Rite. I did NOT have any time to even do it. I just want my primos and crowns. Too bad Hoyo is never adding a skip button.
@skyhart9926
@skyhart9926 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, i couldn’t care less if Ganyu and some NPC girl i don’t remember anymore learned or not how to create kites.
@fanafelgminecraft5789
@fanafelgminecraft5789 4 ай бұрын
@@skyhart9926 your thinking of shenhe if your talking about the recent lantern rite and she isnt just some random npc shes quite important but you would know if you didnt ignore half the story
@amandaslough125
@amandaslough125 4 ай бұрын
​@@fanafelgminecraft5789They're talking about the NPC girl who made the Suanni kite with Gaming.
@fanafelgminecraft5789
@fanafelgminecraft5789 4 ай бұрын
@@amandaslough125 thats a bit stupid then since they said ganyu and she really didnt interact with that npc
@MyVanir
@MyVanir 4 ай бұрын
@@fanafelgminecraft5789 Hello, you're exactly the obnoxious gatekeeping asshole that was berated in the video. Fuck off
@leonadee
@leonadee 4 ай бұрын
I feel like the story has gotten a lot more tolerable and less burdened by text since fontaine honestly. Now, its in NO way near perfect and a skip button would still be amazing but i think they have improved a lot, especially compared to sumeru the land of yapping.
@skyhart9926
@skyhart9926 4 ай бұрын
Bro, fontaine archon quest is the longest. It has a lot of yapping too.
@odokentang3021
@odokentang3021 4 ай бұрын
Cutscene doesn't need to be skipped but paimon must
@Bdog4114
@Bdog4114 4 ай бұрын
Thank you. More options are always better. I like the archon quest and some story quest. But a lot of events stories or invoiced stories are just boring and I just want the rewards. I actually skip events completely when the dialogue is too long. It's just not fun for me, and I have no issue with others enjoying that. It's what it's there to do. But I just wanna take my hot anime characters, kill some monsters and then do something else. I don't need a 30 minute quest about why Xiangling decided to cook chicken instead of fish for a random npc lol
@eboshisdescendant8697
@eboshisdescendant8697 4 ай бұрын
I think having a skip option except for the Archon Quest would be a good compromising way. The account rerolling stays difficult while you can skip world quests or daily quests. Although I personally love reading dialogues, I can see how irritating to do Aranyaka if you just want to unlock new areas.
@TaurusWT
@TaurusWT 4 ай бұрын
We need something similar to what Fate Grand Order has where you can skip story sections, but replay them later via a gallery. You can do this even for the most insignificant dialogue in the game. I wasn't able to clear this years lantern rite event because I didn't have time to watch the story cutscenes. I would've loved to be able to skip the story temporarily and watch it later.
@maingrader4434
@maingrader4434 4 ай бұрын
I don't mind if they dont allow us to skipped voiced dialogue aka archon quests,story quests,hangouts and events etc but the gruelling world quests unvoised dialogue especially with those 4hour quetss would help alot
@ghost._.127
@ghost._.127 6 күн бұрын
The thing is there is a skip button in the hangouts, so why not implement it in the world because those things drag on like tomorrow, especially with the new regions
@thatoneborednewkid1793
@thatoneborednewkid1793 4 ай бұрын
Personally, I believe the reason why we don’t have a skip button in Genshin is because we can’t replay the story quests. I say this because when I compare mihoyo’s other popular games, both Honkai Impact 3rd and Zenless (or at least from what ive seen of zzz) have story missions that you can replay. For Star Rail, you can’t replay the story, similarly to Genshin, so there’s no skip button in Star Rail (yet). Though, they have that fate’s atlas thing that kind of just summarizes stuff (also why cant you rewatch cutscenes from that thing that would be sick). So yeah it would be nice to be able to just skip the world/story quest dialogue, but there’s no real way to replay it once you finish it. Also, I’m still wondering how the hell Star Rail got dialogue history in like 5 months and Genshin still doesn’t have it after over 3 years. Especially since Genshin has the Archive already and that literally includes the dialogue for some quests except it’s not accessible during dialogue in which you would actually want to read through it. 💀
@ARandomUser5
@ARandomUser5 4 ай бұрын
Star Rail actually does have a skip button... It's just that it's only available for instances where say there were cutscenes leading up to a boss fight or some other battle and you wipe at said battle and need to restart; the skip button will become accessible then. Or if you DC during cutscenes, the skip button will be available once you restart that cutscene.
@thatoneborednewkid1793
@thatoneborednewkid1793 4 ай бұрын
@@ARandomUser5Oh cool, I came back to Star Rail for 2.0 after I stopped playing in like 1.3 lmao, so that’s interesting. Seems more like a QOL thing so you don’t have to sit through the same cutscene over and over again.
@robertmelconde8151
@robertmelconde8151 4 ай бұрын
@@ARandomUser5 genshin have skip button to elite boss fight cutscene(if your are done to the story), artifacts and talents domain
@randomperson093
@randomperson093 4 ай бұрын
Technically speak hsr does have some way of skipping things by handing you an option to say "ok i don't need more explanations i'm fine" in the dialogue choice to avoid forcing people through hour long explanations
@Xelluse
@Xelluse 4 ай бұрын
HSR is very strait in giving information, it is written in s.c. RGB first person perspective and when character or note tells that - there was a red wall - it literally means that there was a Wall which was painted in Red and no matter from where this information came from, how the source knows that or why it was the way it was, in Genshin narration goes differently, and when source tells that - there was a red wall - you must also know why source is telling that, where source knows it from, why source is telling that, what really this Red means in this particular scenario, was it a sunset and that's why someone seen it red, was it really red, also why it was red and what was the purpose of that and one of the biggest absurdity I see in comment section, etc.... And absurdity of whole this is that under such topics most people, who literally skip the story, are trying to theorize on these stories and always see things the strait way from limited information they got after skipping most part, like a lot of people still believe that Gnostic Hymn is about Syblings or that Before Sun and Moon is reliable source, etc.... So that's why in HSR there is an option to - OK, I get it - cos there is no other information, it was said that Wall was Red and it was red, no questions, in Genshin some people, and most ironic that those are people who are whining about Skip Option and there is a reason why, even without that option still are unable to put puzzle pieces together to build the image of the story and lore, so for them is better to have a Skip button to do not feel themself stupid. But I'm more curious what is left if you skip the story ? Abyss ? Simple DPS Checker permanent Event which can not even be considered as a content ? Or just Exploration where enemies die from one shot just by seeing a Player ? Or doing Domains ? I mean - what is left then ? It's like asking for Skip button for Races in NFS game, yes, there is car Tunning left that maybe fun for someone, maybe........ I do not like playing Sports games, so I do not play FIFA and nor I complain that why FIFA is a Football game and not a Shooter.....
@ImFloof
@ImFloof 4 ай бұрын
I need the skip button just so I have more time for school HAHA. Lots of stuff are locked behind quests but because of all my homework and studying I barely have time to do the quests because the dialogue is just sooo long. I need to focus more on school too since I’m a junior and it’s one f the most important years for colleges. I could just stop playing Genshin but I have fun playing it and getting new characters so
@driesvandenbrande2941
@driesvandenbrande2941 4 ай бұрын
I'm someone who enjoys going through all the dialogue and story, it's one of the main reasons making me want to play the game. That being said, a skip button would be great. I've been through repeated dialogue, and I might at some point start a new playthrough. I would love to be able to skip dialogue that I've seen already. A skipping dialogue feature is a convenience feature that doesn't prevent you from enjoying the story and dialogue in any way.
@user-sh1jc6bn2u
@user-sh1jc6bn2u 4 ай бұрын
Very VERY simple solution to account rerolling problems: Only make it accessible later in the game.
@mikufan7311
@mikufan7311 4 ай бұрын
That’s a great idea, like ar 50 or after inazuma
@crom5906
@crom5906 3 ай бұрын
It's nice to see you come around on story skipping. I remember a previous video of yours where you were adamately against it.
@1z2q3a
@1z2q3a 4 ай бұрын
I think you might have adhd the way you spoke about game of thrones and called the majority of the book 'fluff' was both hilarious and a give away. It's true that you can enjoy content in anyway you want but sometimes when people multitask in the way you discussed they actually miss a lot of the details without realizing it.
@tonerikko
@tonerikko 4 ай бұрын
My biggest gripe with the lack of story skip is that Genshin, for better or worse, is a mobile game too. Plenty of people love to throw that out as a reminder for why we can't do X, Y, or Z thing in this game. But like... if this is a mobile game, and if it's truly a story-based game, the devs need to do some QoL to actually enable this to be played like a story game in a "pick-up put-down" situation. I might be playing this on my fifteen minute break -- story automatically starting up without my consent (generally for limited events, but Archon quests starting with Katherine are also guilty of this), making users unable to skip scenes, unable to see a log of what was said in the cutscene I'm still in, or even a post-scene log to refer to? Plus, if the game crashes (or has to be closed because I'm out of time), there's no way to go back and re-watch the scene that got skipped. Those all feel pretty painful for a story-based game to make it a pain to actually sit and enjoy the story it is intended to provide me. If the game's not going to make it convenient for me to actually follow the story, by letting me only start viewing the story when I'm actually ready, by letting me go "wait a second, what?" and check back on a text log to review complicated or deep situations thrown out in a single scene, or any of the basic features any visual novel in the last ten years has had (because those really ARE just games you play for the plot)... then I'm going to have to disagree and ask for a story skip button. Because just like you, viewing scenes in KZbin makes it way easier and mobile-friendly because I can also replay bits I just missed, pause the scene if my break is having to end just a smidge before I expected, and if the KZbin app crashes then I can just reopen it and start back up the video right where I ended. TL;DR, The lack of polish around the cutscene system and Genshin's story presentation not always suiting mobile game needs makes me not care about cries that this is a story-based game; give us a story skip.
@freakris
@freakris 4 ай бұрын
Wuthering Waves will have a skip button, and it'll be a blessing for me. Then I can focus on what I like, which certainly isn't the story, in gacha games. I like the gameplay part, meaning exploration, combat, building my teams/units as strong as I can, etc... I have nothing against people who love the story though. I wish I cared for the story as well, but I just don't. It is what it is.
@PigeonSuWi
@PigeonSuWi 4 ай бұрын
What most people who oppose a skip button don't understand, is that most people will use it to skip boring world quests/ daily quest dialogues not archon quests. I am interested in the main story of genshin, but some stuff I just don't care about and I shouldn't be forced to do it if I don't want to (like the 10 hour long aranara quest, I will never do it unless they add a skip button).
@harubynspades
@harubynspades 4 ай бұрын
Oh, fun fact, you don't need to collect the 76 aranaras to complete the quest line, you just have to unlock the tree in old Vihamara or something like that. The 76 aranaras afterwards is for more primos and chests but you can complete it without collecting them
@PigeonSuWi
@PigeonSuWi 4 ай бұрын
@@harubynspades How far into the quest I have to be to unlock that tree? Because I always thought you have to finish it to get it, but then someone said it's pretty early into the quest.
@harubynspades
@harubynspades 4 ай бұрын
@@PigeonSuWi You get the onion pretty early on, the tree I am talking about is the one next to the border with the desert. The onion is pretty important and you get it once you talk with an aranara in that dream world thing in a cave though I don't remember much cause my memory is a bit hazy but yes it is pretty early on.
@PigeonSuWi
@PigeonSuWi 4 ай бұрын
​@@harubynspades ​Ahh. Well, considering it's a 10 hour quest, early on could be a hour or two into the quest lol. Alright, I will do it until I get that onion then. Thanks for the info.
@haruhihirano2633
@haruhihirano2633 4 ай бұрын
I love the story and I don't usually skip dialogue However In my situation I don't have my own PC n I don't get to play everyday and instead I just go to a computer shop once a week, usually I just watch archon quest n story quest in KZbin so when I do play the story quest I just Speedrun n mash the space bar, f key and mouse click fast, I literally Speedrun all the Fontaine archon quest in like 8 or 10 hours I think. I can understand why people would want a skip button cuz for people in a similar case as me or any other reasons, it could help them save the time
@arczuha9209
@arczuha9209 4 ай бұрын
my take on skip button make it available after 2-3 patches after the 1st release of the archon quest (cause they can know what it is on the internet) also all world quest have a skip button(especially the non voiced one) i can guess that once the skip button on the archon quest is being enabled within 24 hours you can get to AR 45 in just 24 hours of gameplay or less (just saw a guy that get to AR 30 in just 24 hours)
@Kro-RissaVirus
@Kro-RissaVirus 4 ай бұрын
“When I watch a movie or tv show I don’t just sit down and watch it, I have it on another monitor while I’m playing a game.” Unironic TikTok subway surfers brain rot 💀
@bashooi
@bashooi 4 ай бұрын
Very much so.
@kasuha
@kasuha 3 ай бұрын
Nobody seems to have noticed that there's no problem skipping the dialog. What we are not allowed to skip are animations.
@TheVermilliaFamily
@TheVermilliaFamily 4 ай бұрын
It's going to be controversial until people understand one thing: Genshin Impact was made as a story-driven game. The combat, adventures, and characters revolve around the story. The problem most people have when they say they want a skip button, is unnecessary side quests that are required for progression... Or, more jarringly, the world quests without voiced dialogue.
@grahamnu1529
@grahamnu1529 4 ай бұрын
If we talk gameplay vs story, you can ignore a lot from gameplay, not explore, not collect chests/oculi, avoid combat, lower the world level, ignore Spiral Abyss, not farm materials etc. But with story you can only avoid triggering quests, once they start you have to sit through the dialogue. If the problem for having a skip button was rerolling, they could just add the option after the introduction, or at PL 15 or something. I believe the reason for not adding it is to force more playtime, which benefits hoyo (somehow). They are perfectly aware of players wanting this feature, they even made fun of it in Star Rail in one quest.
@alexprus7953
@alexprus7953 4 ай бұрын
Sometimes you can't even avoid starting quests, once you get to a certain location the quest just starts by itself (like Unfinished Comedy in Fontaine)
@Zharque
@Zharque 4 ай бұрын
I didn't watch the previous video and this is the first time I've engaged in this particular discourse. While I completely with all the criticisms about genshin's dialogue, I personally wish they would rather just instead improve it rather than bypass it with a skip button. As someone who highly values the community aspect of a game that I'm playing, I don't want to see two clearly divided types of players in the community (and I know that's gate keeping but that's why I've never said anything about it anywhere else). The difference between gameplay-only players and story-only players is that story-only players can always pick up the gameplay aspects whenever they want to but that won't be the same for story skippers. Yes they can always just look it up on KZbin if they want to but most likely they are probably not going to bother to. And no matter how much you try to like prevent spoiling yourself since you plan on watching on KZbin later, you're still gonna have to watch cutscenes or do boss fights. At the end of the day they are still inevitably going to dilute the experience they were supposed to have. And I know what you're saying, maybe if that experience was so tedious then it wouldn't be that bad diluting it anyway. But that's why I'm saying they should just make the dialogue better instead of trying to bypass it. I've been watching a lot of reactions to HSR Penacony lately and even streamers I didn't expect to be into the story aspects were very engaged in the plot. That's the kind of situation I wish genshin has, and it sucks because I know people irl that completely skipped the fontaine arc since they only needed the pulls. I just honestly don't like the idea of encouraging that type of experience to more players.
@jason3114
@jason3114 4 ай бұрын
Story skipping is mostly wanted by people who have lives outside of playing GI tho. Some say it's gameplay focused, others say it's story focused but the thing is that it's both and neither at the same time. Its focus is entirely subjective. Besides replaying a quest was never an issue because of the possibility of having alts. Having a skip button wouldn't be an issue either because you could just not use it. I love every aspect of the game but sometimes there are quests that feel like chores to do and I just get tired of playing. Even exploration can become tiring sometimes, particularly when there are irl stuff(chores, groceries, hunger(blaming Paimon for that, that little shit)) breaking the immersion. I have some cc that I love to watch that make long commentary videos playing some quests(they can make unvoiced quests feel better and elevate good quests to the sky and beyond) and often find myself watching their videos before playing those quests myself. So when I do it's like I'm playing through it twice and it kinda becomes a chore because of the constant need to check for traveller's dialog boxes. This was particularly bad in the fontaine archon quest, I couldn't play for a while because of exams so I watched other people playing the quest and when I did finally play it, the length of the cutscenes and the additional lawyer minigame things made it so much worse. My parents wouldn't stop pestering me to go buy stuff(I have siblings but I'm the go to to buy groceries because they are unreliable), and when I did, my ps5 would switch off to powersave, omg it was so awful... A skip button would be a godsend. Also, while the community is mostly made up of good people, they are the silent majority type... The actual online community are the major douche loud minority degenerates.. So pro-tip don't get too into that.
@atomicgrave4340
@atomicgrave4340 4 ай бұрын
I have 3 accounts. That's all you really need to know. Some people have 4 or 5. Repeating events is ok second time, but not third or fourth. I usually change language when i do those, so i would feel less burdened by it, but it still doesn't help. Also i play with the controller, so for me it's easier just to press X button to skip, but for the most part i just want to skip the whole thing. I enjoyed the story once, i can somewhat enjoy it twice, but not the third time! I also started this game because of characters and battle system (exploration), not because of the story. I played many games, i have experience to say that Genshin's story is a meh~, it's a mid experience for me. I know games with much better storytelling, the real story heavy games! So i don't think that Genshin story is worth reading through it 2 or 3 times! I just want an option of skipping when i need it! Egh, i feel burned out, really. If only i had that skip button, doing those events and quests wouldn't burned me out so much, it'd take only 15 min to finish everything on other two accounts, fast and simple, without the hassle. And to those who like to say "just don't create multiple accounts" i created a second account to play with characters i can't get on my main, and the third account is a challenge account i play for fun. Because for me - combat and characters are the top priority in this game. Story is on the last place.
@Cajun_Seasoning
@Cajun_Seasoning 4 ай бұрын
I never skip anything on my main account, unless the dialogue is literally jut a slog of nothing paragraphs which is mostly anytime Paimon has to say anything. But as someone who does challenge alt accounts, not having to sit though everything a second or third time would be a godsend
@HDD7
@HDD7 4 ай бұрын
the points that were brough up could fit perfectly into potentially having a skip feature be locked behind one of the ascension quests/AR level since they have to play for a long enough time for those to not promote reroll accounts.
@michele_
@michele_ 4 ай бұрын
Damn i watched 2/5 of the video and I just want to say that you are 100% spot on
@TekkatV2
@TekkatV2 4 ай бұрын
Are you reading my mind? I submitted this to the survey feedback today. Lmao.
@Frailchip
@Frailchip 3 ай бұрын
Nah its just that common of a complaint. Like wtf is wrong with having it, Granblue fantasy relink literally has a skip button with a summary of what happened during the cutscene before skipping
@frugalfun2.07
@frugalfun2.07 4 ай бұрын
Along with a dialogue skip button they could have a speed up button and a replay cutscene feature. There has been times I started a quest thinking it wasn't too long but then struggled to finish with the time I have to play the game (I have limited game time). If there was a dialogue skip or speed up button it would be great for me in those situations. The the cutscene feature or a story recap of the quests I have done so far - I have completed all archon and world quests but over the 2 years I have been playing have forgotten the earlier story. But definitely at least an option to skip the dialogue in the daily commisions that I have done hundreds of times.....
@marlonstokedjr.3404
@marlonstokedjr.3404 4 ай бұрын
Any recommendations for a YT channel that is on top of event and story recaps? (Archon, Main World Quests, Events) I listen to most dialogue but im also a button masher when it comes to skipping dialogue when i dont wanna hear it
@sleet9289
@sleet9289 4 ай бұрын
yeah, i would say that the only argument against skip button is that the game wasn't made for creating alt accounts and they want you to experience the story, but i've always thought that plenty of other games let you skip the story (even some story driven games), so you should just let the players decide what they want to do.
@hazelmaple1842
@hazelmaple1842 4 ай бұрын
Anything that can make me hear less of paimons voice and see aether on screen less I am all for because I find both pull me out of my engagement in the story. There is so much unnecessary dialogue in all of this game. I spam click through 95% of the dialogue. I prefer to learn the lore through videos afterwards because when I’m playing I want to PLAY
@hazelmaple1842
@hazelmaple1842 4 ай бұрын
I only pay attention to the archon quest and some character story quests while playing and that’s it. Also I’d be more willing to deal with traveller interactions if I could switch to lumine I’ve regretted my choice for 3 years and every time I see aether I’m pulled out of the game. And paimon just makes it 100x worse for me
@fencerderio9814
@fencerderio9814 4 ай бұрын
@@hazelmaple1842The fuck did Aether do to you? Is it just because he’s a guy?
@Kumi_Conners
@Kumi_Conners 4 ай бұрын
tbh theres need to be a skip button as players we need to have a choice
@GreenHellTube
@GreenHellTube 4 ай бұрын
Plain and simple, I don't want people who don't care about the story in this community. They are either gacha addicts or meta slaves, both of which are insufferable types that only bring toxicity and misery everywhere they go. I'd rather have them leave and play other games instead and complain about free pulls and powercreep some place else. If the unskippable dialogue weeds out at least some of them, it's already a good feature.
@mikeschmidt4696
@mikeschmidt4696 2 ай бұрын
Gatekeeping 💀
@ToreyTastic
@ToreyTastic 4 ай бұрын
I literally play genshin on my main monitor while watching MurderofBirdsImpact play through and explain archon quests and long story quests on my second monitor. I just absorb the story better that way.
@sovest555
@sovest555 4 ай бұрын
While it would be nice to have a story skip, people should still give the cutscenes a chance first. Also, if you skip the story, you forfeit all right to criticize said story imho.
@Axterix13
@Axterix13 4 ай бұрын
I'd say people are perfectly within their rights to criticize a story for whatever reason they decide to skip the story. Ultimately, not every story is for everyone, and that's fine.
@randomperson093
@randomperson093 4 ай бұрын
Still not gonna stop anyone who don't care about the story to skip said story,what's the point then?atleast add an option for those who want it,nobody is forcing anyone to skip through the story
@alexprus7953
@alexprus7953 4 ай бұрын
There's always the option of the skip button not skipping cutscenes.
@ghostbait1419
@ghostbait1419 8 күн бұрын
The way the lack of a skip button is one of my biggest issues in HSR as well. I tend to make alt accounts on almost every gacha game I play, like for Genshin my main account is Lumine and then I have an Asia server acc for Aether, and its so freaking tedious to sit through unskippable dialogue I've already experienced. It's even worse in HSR cause I have 4 accounts, one for each server, and getting through the Xianzhou arc 4 times is so painful without a skip button. And its so crazy that Genshin and HSR don't have a skip button yet when HI3, which arguable has the better story out of the 3 games, *HAS* a skip button.
@LuketheDuke424
@LuketheDuke424 4 ай бұрын
What everyone is here for: Ratheil's great takes What I stayed for: Watching genocide under the sea
@ironheadedDoF
@ironheadedDoF 4 ай бұрын
I nearly ragequit Genshin because of no skip button during Aranara quest!! The text bloat was massive. Paimon made it worse by keeping a conversation going just when it was reaching end of a point! Silent Protagonist sucks, which I think is the biggest immersion killer.
@itaohs5551
@itaohs5551 4 ай бұрын
I just dont get it, man. I'm not reading it anyway, I'm never gonna read it. All I want is to engage with the damn combat of the game. If you want to force players to tab in every five minutes to select a worthless dialogue option during the main Archon quests then sure. But dear god I will never engage with so much of the world exploration because i dont want to do the most boring world quests known to man.
@ForeverDegenerate
@ForeverDegenerate 4 ай бұрын
Then don't play Genshin. It's not a Combat-Focused Game and it never will be. Genshin Impact is a Story and Character Focused Game with really great Combat. And, no, this isn't me Gate-Keeping. If you want to play the game, play the game. I'm not going to kick you out. All I'm saying is that if you're only engaging with, like, at most, 20% of the game, then maybe, just maybe, this isn't the right game for you.
@Lynn.-_-.
@Lynn.-_-. 4 ай бұрын
​@@ForeverDegenerate Artificially bloating the dialogue doesn't mean that the story is 80% of the game.
@defenderthebase199v5
@defenderthebase199v5 4 ай бұрын
@@ForeverDegenerate Calm tf down. Who fucking hurt you bro, this is just his opinion, if you don't want to hear then don't reply
@itaohs5551
@itaohs5551 4 ай бұрын
@@ForeverDegenerate I would if there was another game with combat like it. Also Shenhe's hot, hope that answers your questions. No but fr, I was also being hyperbolic and mean about the archon quests, I really do enjoy those, even if Paimon doesn't shut up. It's just the world quests and the daily commissions (which you can mostly ignore nowadays, thank god) that I wish you could just go next.
@skyhart9926
@skyhart9926 4 ай бұрын
@@ForeverDegenerate​​⁠​⁠​⁠ you are exactly this video is intended to. the forever degenerates who tell people who want skip buttons to stop playing genshin. What an asinine argument. What people like or dislike in genshin is NOT for you to decide. Genshin is all about combat, team building, story, characters, exploration, music. It’s ALL OF THOSE. a person can like one aspect, and dislike another. Doesn’t mean they should stop playing Genshin. You don’t wanna do combat in Abyss? You can skip it. You don’t wanna wish for a character? You can skip their banners. You don’t wanna listen to music? You can have the option to turn off music. You don’t wanna explore and find chests? You have the option to not to. So why not have a skip button for entire scenes you don’t care about? If you don’t wanna skip, then don’t use the skip button. It doesn’t harm you. so let others be!
@phyrexian_dude4645
@phyrexian_dude4645 4 ай бұрын
Here are two options for this issue: 1. Just put the goddamn skip option on shit that we have already read. 2. Put the "skip dialoge" option in the goddamn settings. My reasoning for it is this: I like Genshin story but i also support the skip button just because there have being events in which the "story" its so mediocre, bad or have characters that you give literal 0 fucks about that its just a slog to go thru them. Best Example: The goddamn TCG event, by far the absolute WORST story of them all. Regardless of what you feel about the TCG, the biggest sin that event commited was that it made player have a passive role as a character and go along for the ride, which made it boring. We didnt even saw a goddamn match! Like, the fuck!? One of the flew events were i mashed the "next" button just to get on with it. Also, the daily quest. Yeah, yeah, the plot is nice and there are good side quest but you cant deny that having to re-read every goddamn daily quest with no hidden achivement, that you have done for the 10th time its something that even the story lovers absolutely buttom smash to skip or to miss clicking that goddamn store sign. Sorry to tell you this, but re-reading for the 12th time it aint going to make the story better. Having the option on the table will only affect the people that just want to skip. Story lovers will never touch it, simple as that. And finally... story lovers, if you are so afflicted for having to got to KZbin to rewatch a cut scene they unfortunately didnt see because of X or Y reason or having that urge to rewatch it on demand... just ask that Hoyo to update the goddamn Archive to be able to rewatch story cutscenes instead of just the audio clips. Hell who knows, maybe one story hater will use that feature.
@Ekamin1
@Ekamin1 4 ай бұрын
There is already a bunch of people who skip the story and still talk like they know everything or act completely clueless. Even CCs do that. So adding a skip button would just blow up that number.
@Toxima
@Toxima 4 ай бұрын
was looking for this opinion specifically
@fanafelgminecraft5789
@fanafelgminecraft5789 4 ай бұрын
imo skip button should only be for side quests and dailys as those are bearly important
@optimistic.pessimist
@optimistic.pessimist 3 ай бұрын
And why does that matter lol
@insaneshooter9441
@insaneshooter9441 4 ай бұрын
I'll only say skip button would be fine if the entire storage system wouldn't be an issue the main reason events quest that has some bigger are unfortunately be an event and cannot bring it back so basically you can't have the weapons of it either after the event was already finished
@gimik8830
@gimik8830 Ай бұрын
All thing flawed story decisions: the long pause between dialogue, paimon repeating what was literally said 1-2 minutes ago (making you feel retarded) and even if those 2 weren't a crime, making someone sit for 30 minutes of text on a silent quest that could be told in 5 minutes should be a crime.
@malvoleus
@malvoleus 4 ай бұрын
Always better to have & not need than to need & not have...
@michele_
@michele_ 4 ай бұрын
I would add, maybe you can skip quest in a super fast way or in a fast way If you use the "super skip" then you just unlock the basic things but you don't get primogems mora experience and some other rewards, you just unlock the area that you wanted to unlock to explore or to farm materials or to do whatever non-story-related-thing you wanted to do Barriers wouldn't feel like barriers anymore 😩
@michele_
@michele_ 4 ай бұрын
And then you have the "skip" options that just helps people that enjoy the story but they find it super slow because they're fast readers or that don't like certain characters in the story, This would also help players that don't like the story but they still want the rewards so they have a compromise
@Merrexz
@Merrexz 4 ай бұрын
I’m quite convinced the number one reason for them to not have a skip button is that they use time spent playing as a measurement of engagement/success. A central gatcha strategy is, after all, to make the game a habit and to make its players spend so much time with it as possible, to increase the likelihood of spending.
@domi8499
@domi8499 4 ай бұрын
Then proceed to do absolutely nothing about endgame content where players could spend hours in
@fanafelgminecraft5789
@fanafelgminecraft5789 4 ай бұрын
ehh they would not really make sense as they have resin that makes it so ppl cant play alot
@Viridious2
@Viridious2 4 ай бұрын
To be honest I think a reasonable compromise could be a fast-forward button that skips dialogue options so long cutscenes could be sped through without necessarily being fully skipped. Since a lot of dialogue is usually unnecessarily long it means players could just fast forward to the parts they care abou.
@SeravySensei
@SeravySensei 4 ай бұрын
Aside from all the above, my primary problem with the text in the game is that I read faster than the game allows me to go to the next line since Inazuma, that's why I stopped reading. As for alt accounts, ironically the dialogue encourages me to have more of them, by locking vast areas of the game behind it so by deciding not to go through the dialogue, I run out of content I like faster and start playing the next account faster. btw alt accounts can also help making more money. I was planning to buy the Klee and Keqing skins for three accounts of mine each but now I'm boycotting so too bad for Hoyo, maybe after the skip button gets added.
@philosopherperv
@philosopherperv 4 ай бұрын
My best guess is that it isn't rerolls that are the big fear of Hoyo. It is account selling black market.
@ironheadedDoF
@ironheadedDoF 4 ай бұрын
OH i forgot that was a thing.
@Truck-kun11
@Truck-kun11 4 ай бұрын
Choices being irrelevant is something every Gacha has, partly to make the player feel part of the story and partly to keep them focused on the game. Some give you the illusion of choice by making it seem like your choice matters but the result is always the same.
@adamboulton3886
@adamboulton3886 4 ай бұрын
Absolutely, I have pretty much quit Genshin at the end of last year because it simply did not respect my time, despite me wanting to get to know the story. A skip or a passive story experience (I.e not having to click though it all or have scenes broken up by a 10 seconds of travel). I returned for the Lantern rite as one of the biggest events, I enjoyed the activities but the story chapters killed it all over again for me.
@MyVanir
@MyVanir 4 ай бұрын
I basically just hit the auto button and alt-tabbed to read manga, then occasionally tabbed back to select a random irrelevant option.
@Thesmus
@Thesmus 3 ай бұрын
if they do want us to appreciate the dialogue, can't they add dialogue history box or something? it's really helpful to have that (other than looking at the archive or in wikis) especially for someone like me who at times misclicks or worse forgets what was said and could use some refresher. for such a game with tons of dialogue, the one thing that would be helpful and beneficial is not included.
@docthor8925
@docthor8925 4 ай бұрын
in Arknights you can skip the story and watch it later, that's what i do when i'm playing events. I would love to have that option on Genshin. I think Genhin allow you to listen to the Audio of the main quest but you can't play the game at the same time.
@kingalex105x7
@kingalex105x7 4 ай бұрын
You once again forget what they should do if they add a skip button.... Also that 50% of genshin's content is story. If they add a skip button: replay story story recaps probably other things like pop ups to know what you'll miss ect Which once again i imagine would be alot of work ontop of working on quest quality of life with how many quests are in genshin. They can for now add a skip button for Hangouts, commissions, events, and dialogue before boss fights after you lost to them in the story untill theyre able to add stuff like replayable story and recaps.
@DavidFileStyle
@DavidFileStyle 3 ай бұрын
I've been keeping track of how many lines of dialogue you have to click through every time a researcher NPC has a problem for a limited event. The current event im pretty sure was 39 lines of dialogue and 5 mandatory Traveler responses. You can't even auto and go poop.
@krakengaming7363
@krakengaming7363 14 күн бұрын
I prefer when the cut scenes are like watching anime and I don't have to touch a button Or if there's a skip button that transitions to a black screen white text summary of what just happened
@DSilvandoBlade
@DSilvandoBlade Ай бұрын
The thing is this is actually why I stopped playing Genshin after 3.0 it wasn't enjoyable anymore having to click through mountains of dialogue. Makes sense for the main story but not for the other side stories. And I don't care if people say that it's because it's story focused it's just extremely lazy in Hoyoverses part. If they want people to play through their game and not just skip it that's fine but at least make it fun. And you brought up a good point. There doesn't need to be a skip button but at least not having to click the character options and having the entire thing just stop. And more annoyingly is when you can't continue a main line story because one of the characters are in another SIDE QUEST is what I absolutely hate. The autoplay feature is basically useless because of this. I'd genuinely start to play the game again if they did something about this. I love Genshins story and I loved the Archon quests but I refuse to play Genshin until they sort that out.
@vladaowo6367
@vladaowo6367 4 ай бұрын
I would literally come back to genshin if they add a skip button. Every time I feel like I miss the game I remember that to finish one event I need to get through a TON of dialogue that I'm not interested in, I just want to play the event, especially if it's not the main one. I still remember that stupid Wenut event, it felt like there were more dialogues then the gameplay. There are also a lot of times when you do the big event in the last few days and since it's designed to be done in big amount of time it has a lot of content. And when you do that big amount of content in few or one day it's really hard and a lot to do. But it could be SO much easier if you could just skip all of the dialogue! Like, sorry, I don't always have time to play, just doing daily quests might be hard, you know, you might not want to play every single day even for 5 minutes, so it might be just few days when I actually can do the event.
@Anjuly.
@Anjuly. 4 ай бұрын
if only the same message of just letting people enjoy how they want to enjoy was given in the discord server, where i was forced out of due to liking a certain other game
@andy1356000
@andy1356000 4 ай бұрын
I literally setup up a macro that spams the F button so I can skip through dialogs faster. And yet they still take forever.
@Armstrong1781
@Armstrong1781 4 ай бұрын
THANK GOD someone said it
@hailice4286
@hailice4286 4 ай бұрын
the issue with the skip button is that we have enough braindead people who sleep through Archon Quest but will still go harass people who did listen to the story and even did extra reading over character personalities and lore or spend massive amounts of misinformation and nonsense like how every lore channel is still yapping about 'paimon is the god of time bc she changes the in-game time' or wherever the idea the alhaithem is abusive to kaveh came from or how so many people still insist that furina is childish and dumb imagine how much worse this would get is we had a skip button skip button for world quest events start quests daily (especially repeated dailies)? definitely but not for major quests or major event quests (the quest chain from every patch's main event like lantern rite etc.) instead they should just fix the autoplay function for those for people who really dont care about story they can start it and leave it to play while they cook dinner
@fanafelgminecraft5789
@fanafelgminecraft5789 4 ай бұрын
yeah imo it should be limted to ONLY random side quests and daily and events not main quests as those are like 80% of the game and if ppl could skip it more ppl will complain about no content when they skipped half the game
@greeeeeeeezy3893
@greeeeeeeezy3893 4 ай бұрын
I think it comes down to this: Genshin focuses on 3 main types of gameplay; story, exploration and combat. They want you to interact with all of these systems even if you only really care about 1 or 2. That by itself isn't bad, it just that you have to interact with the story disproportionately more than everything else. Only care about the story? Great! Exploration will take around 10 minutes on average, combat is made easier with trial characters and lowered levels in quests. Care about exploring the new area, or trying teams in the new combat event? You're sitting through 30min to 2hr slogs of (usually) boring and uninspired dialogue.
@someoneinasia
@someoneinasia 4 ай бұрын
i don't understand why people are still talking about skip button. 4 years into genshin should have tell everyone one thing, hoyo will never add skip button.
@anicealien
@anicealien 4 ай бұрын
3:19 This is why I keep my hand on the space bar to manually continue the dialogue even when it's on autoplay, bc I absolutely despise those awkward pauses. They make zero sense, and absolutely hurt the flow of the story.
@mashucha
@mashucha 2 ай бұрын
I stopped playing genshin a few months ago and being able to skip dialogue would legitimately get me back in
@NasiLemakTech
@NasiLemakTech 4 ай бұрын
That weird gap between the autoplay is a problem for me - and the way the question is told in this game, I rather get a recap from KZbin.
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