Rating a Sisters of Twilight 2 unit Doomstack 10/10

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[@lewishand3531]

Alternative title; Ariel takes her daughters on an average day trip to Marienburg

[@bificommander7472]

Orion solo stack should have reinforced.

[@khairallahdh]

Plot twist. The empire just wanted to greet them with a parade and a fire works display.

[@OpiatesAndTits]

Shopping in marine burg let’s go girls!

[@zacharybutterfras1836]

That's the most nonexistent balance of power I've ever seen.

[@thegreatlarry9454]

But it does exist

[@JB-xl2jc]

But you HAVE heard of it

[@danlacer3415]

nah Malus can go solo :D

[@winterwolf1660]

Legend saving the ai from itself, never thought I'd see the day

[@quint3ssent1a]

When you need to humiliate your opponent so much you actually give him help only to crush him later.

[@proxyx3557]

I mean it looked more like the AI abusing Legend by getting back on the artillery and shooting him with guns.

[@GrandMasterNutBusterYoda]

"Programming." "Beep boop." Alright.. _where's the REAL legendoftotalwar?_

[@brandonjarvis1987]

this is clearly a copy bought from ikit. the real one is more skaven-ey

[@obsidiansiriusblackheart]

Even more of a giveaway "I'm not going to cheese, I'm going to help the AI and save it from itself" *_IMPOSTOR_*

[@GrandMasterNutBusterYoda]

@@obsidiansiriusblackheart in this case he... plan-schemed against himself?!

[@johnmcmanus2447]

@@GrandMasterNutBusterYoda a new level of skavenhood

[@obsidiansiriusblackheart]

@@GrandMasterNutBusterYoda he didn't like the look of that furless one in the glass mirror!

[@fukyomammason]

Having to fight every battle manually late game would suck ass though.

[@dario9640]

But they dont run away

[@nikitclaw4770]

But with these armies like malus it is fun to some point

[@fukyomammason]

Uganda Warrior Certainly for a little while, but having to fight every tiny battle would just get tiresome.

[@quint3ssent1a]

@@nikitclaw4770 it's like playing an isometric RPG instead of strategy

[@martinlaver007]

Fighting battles is the point of the game for me.

[@adamradford8053]

"right where I want them" "But sister, we are surrounded?" "More directions for us to shoot in"

[@Xaphnir]

Me at the end of the video: "Hey, you didn't call us fuckers" Legend: "fuckers" Me: "thank you"

[@legus9684]

"I think Arahan is secretly a skaven." -Greatest anime plot twists

[@Achillez098]

Ariel: "Hey girls, wanna go to Marienburg for some ice cream?" Arahan: "ICE CREAM!" :D Naestra: "Sure, but what about dad?" Ariel: "Nahh, this will be a girls' night out" Orion: (cries in the corner)

[@vulkanofnocturne]

Depending on the season Orion might be dead, again.

[@JB-xl2jc]

@@vulkanofnocturne “Our family is kind of complicated”

[@fullmoontales1749]

And they took the animals along too - they need their claws sharpened. or soemthing

[@ctakitimu]

We can yell every so often "For Orion!"

[@jhorvat01]

I want THIS doomstack fight against Luoen Leoncoeur

[@adamwinter5255]

Ariel’s damage nerf ability would weaken Louen so much it would flip the power balance nicely, would love to try that myself actually...

[@Daniel_deez_nutz]

The sisters could just kite him to death with Ariel hides in the woods.

[@Anand70707]

Enemy forces: It's an easy fight, it's just three women! Arahan: Hahahahaha!

[@DrEtzor]

legend : "don't send me unfinished doomostacks, look, even this one is missing four units" legend couple days later : "2 unit doomstack"

[@sadpee7710]

based

[@sadpee7710]

@uNnHkP8mza based on a novel by stephen king

[@SereglothIV]

'Strongest motherfcking doomstack that can autoresolve a god' - now that's a cool expression I have to keep in mind :D

[@AGenericFool]

Ceithin-Har: Summoned only to run down routed enemies? Am I, a legendary forest dragon, a joke to you?

[@alagass6466]

It makes me sad that he's just not as chosen, makes me think of their old model on the dragon

[@Zzzfunky]

Yes-yes

[@Count.Saruman]

High Elf Star Dragons sitting on their mountains of hedge funds: Yes

[@quickdraw6893]

@@alagass6466 I think it's actually pretty impressive CA managed to make a hawk more appealing mount choice than a dragon

[@TheRealSimeon]

@AGenericFool A joke? No, you are not a joke to him. That being said, you are A Generic Fool in his eyes! 😆 Have a great day!

[@Larry-nd7gv]

“Bye.................f*ckers.” LOL

[@SereglothIV]

I can't tell if he did that on purpose or needed that time to process what he forgot about xD

[@Almugavar]

For a second I thought he wasn't gonna say it lol

[@khairallahdh]

Legend is such a tsundere.

[@quint3ssent1a]

Can we say that sisters doomstack is actually ARMY OF TWO?

[@karmaascendant3936]

4 technically or 5 if you include their summon. So yes but actually no

[@quint3ssent1a]

@@karmaascendant3936 well, it's two units, but sisters are actually one, but there's two of them on that eagle...

[@Almugavar]

I'd count the eagle as well, because birbs.

[@catsndogs98]

Cue sisters in bulletproof armor and ballistic masks

[@swankyj501]

“It’s ingrained into my programming... beep boop” -LoTW Idk why but I laughed at this little joke for 3 minutes

[@heyitsq8829]

That change in economy was so jarring to see! I only play on Very Hard and Legendary so I was super lost when I looked up and saw he was making 14k with 9 armies as the freaking WOOD ELVES

[@anonnymousperson]

LegendofTotalWar: ...appreciate you guys, and I'll see you next time! Me:.... wait a min- LegendofTotalWar: ...Fuckers Me: ah, there it is.

[@voodooozo3755]

12:45 *warp phone noises* Ikit: Yes-yes? Arachan: Master Ikit! They know-know! Ikit: ehhhh...... *nuke launching sound*

[@ardynizunia9709]

Why do you put the timestamp 2 seconds AFTER he says he thinks she's a Skaven? That way I click on your timestamp and hear nothing related to the Skaven at all. Kinda ruins the joke.

[@FarhadHakimov]

@@ardynizunia9709 NOW it makes sense, thank you.

[@DartAleks]

12:45 - correct one.

[@falinrichard1394]

Nah, LOTW is skaven agent too. Did you forget his antics with skaven doomstacks? And his nickname - "Cheese Lord"? * door knocking * Oh shi~ * sounds of shattering wood * Witch hunter: Heresy! Skaven do not exist! *BLAM!*

[@TheRealSimeon]

@@falinrichard1394 RIP

[@Cark7428]

Did he actually say "it's deeply ingrained into my programing... Beep boop"!? 😂

[@Sokaku5]

4:30 Legend confirmed to be a Clan Skryre experiment! It all makes sense now.

[@IAmebAdger]

Extremely rare footage of Legend being an advocate of Khorne instead of Tzeentch (or Jeff) :D

[@gabrielmontenegro9476]

12:46 I have never in my Sisters of Twilight campaign heard Arahan laugh like that.

[@lucaslehnerzapater3075]

Only 90% wardsafe max.? I hear some orcs in the distance

[@Kalidoscope1230]

save me from their nightmare. I never want to fight him again.

[@serbianeagle8523]

@@Kalidoscope1230 who?

[@Kalidoscope1230]

​@@serbianeagle8523 Wurrzag and his savage orc gang. I can't remember how much they had, but I'm sure the boyz had +50% physical resistance.

[@kliner451]

You can get numbers above 90%, but you can only get the effect of 90% regardless of how high a number you reach.

[@philipp117.]

@@kliner451 this one gets it, if i undrestand correctly thats the same with everything in the game, no def chance higher than 90% same with missile res etc, does this mean you cant get a hit chance greater than 90% either?

[@toddhoward3471]

Perfect timing, i was looking for a video to eat my sushi to

[@flopus7]

Skyrim on sushi when?

[@OPbob]

really liked the delayed "fukkers".. warmed my heart..

[@dudewhat9329]

Thank you for listening to the critics. I think you played with the exact right mindset here. You made the battle more difficult based on the ai's army to fully test the potential of your army. I'm satisfied.

[@ValtheJean]

That delayed "fuckers" XD I was just about to comment that he wasn't saying that anymore...and then I got surprised lol

[@aayushpurswani9630]

sees 10/10 in the title only two units in total, thinks "oh yea its about to be a good one"

[@eta2670]

4:27 the beep boop after the point really made me chuckle

[@LevCallahan]

22:48 -- I liked the special guest appearance of Alan Rickman at the end there.

[@Garret007]

Thanks for showing the great difference in income when under a harder difficulty. Was very informative and kinda shocking to see, ngl xD

[@Lord_Inquisitor_Ignis]

So sisters are employing skaven tactics now

[@quint3ssent1a]

Brave skaven attacks chaos horde alone. Cowardly elves fly around, and there's two of them.

[@Mr10lala]

there is no skaven tactics, theres only cheese xd

[@Joyexer]

@@Mr10lala Thats the same basicly x)

[@EddieTheLightbringer]

Twisted and twilight launch: WOOD ELVES GOT SHAFTED ONLY SKAVEN GOT GOOD STUFF Reality: Everything is Skaven now.

[@ggleplussuxx4787]

Uncle Daith = Ikit Claw

[@espatecfuet7968]

I would really like to see some sort of series (like this one) trying to find auto-resolve doomstacks

[@BenHyle]

Legend going all OSHA here, protecting the Empire from their own dangerous units.

[@radec1906]

I almost thought you were not gonna say f word in the end.

[@YF365]

he did. He delayed it lol

[@shad0wmech]

"war is tragedy, sent by orion"

[@Goldmasterflex]

Thank you for another juicy doomstack vid Leg! Hope everyone's day is going well

[@turnipslop3822]

Appreciate the effort to rate these stacks without cheesing, we know it's hard for you! Really does show the stack's strengths and weaknesses though 😁

[@nms8397]

The Empire is the ultimate Worf Effect in these rating doomstack videos

[@-pancakes7205]

So when does the Empire go to DS9 to finally show how strong it is?

[@lordfenix17]

Damn elves. *That's it, I'm gettin me hellstorm rocket*

[@AvengerAtIlipa]

Honestly, any army is a "doom stack" if it has a powerful enough spellcaster in it.

[@isaacplanas4948]

destroy artillery to save enemy army " Manners make cheese"

[@Unfitforpurpose]

Thanks for that, really made me appreciate the strength of the stack.

[@TheRewasder97]

I personally like to play in VH/N. But then I remove the supply lines and public order malus. I like the AI having money cheats and loads of armies, but I don't like being slowed down by debuffs, and i like my melee infantry to be viable.

[@IAmebAdger]

Yeah, I do the same, I go legendary/Normal, except I keep supply lines and public order malus, since I dislike having to manage too many armies because I get too rich too fast, it burns me out.

[@TheRewasder97]

@@IAmebAdger I find Legendary annoying regarding saves and not being able to pause in battles, personally, but I've done a few campaigns. I also play with SFO, so the supply lines and money expenses come from other sources

[@IAmebAdger]

@@TheRewasder97 Oh yeah, SFO, completely different game almost but very fun. I play one SFO campaign for every 2 vanilla campaigns. I like restricting my unit caps army-wide and faction-wide so certain units seem more valuable/awesome to me.

[@TheRewasder97]

@@IAmebAdger yeah, I agree. I like how they balance the units too. Going melee focus is not only viable but fun! If you haven't, try a melee focus with Dwarfs, play with Ungrim for the bonuses. And try to move and seize the initiative, I am having a lot of fun with that campaign, surprisingly more than I expected.

[@sympunny8636]

@@TheRewasder97 tbh i find legendary fun partly because of both the saves and the lack of pause, makes the battles much more intense and exciting when i could lose it all, rather than, "oh guess i'll go back to the quicksave then." Forces me to scout with heroes a lot more, and be more cautious.

[@yaeko4777]

I'd love to watch you try this out next time. Especially with the recent update they've had to forests providing relations

[@kayedmund9655]

Another fun thing is the reforged eagle bow gets 'endless volley' so for 7 turns the sisters can have endless napalm shots

[@donpetronio3166]

Played vortex Sisters campaign on very hard, and it was quite easy. OFC i followed your cheese to get Witchwood forest health to max and Ariel on turn 24 by sacking that settlement and fighting Skaven rebellion every turn. Never had any problem with money because I have stockpiled so much on first 30 turns before I even needed second or third army. Later, income dropped massively, but i have managed to keep it at least positive by utilizing upkeep reduction in magical forest areas. But yes, their economy is really shit. You depend on trading with High Elves for majority of income. And great video as always, thanks!

[@stevententler8522]

That was just as amazing as the green skin one with the krimson killas. Crazy what people come up with!

[@DrRipper19]

My favorite thing about the wood elf economy is that you don't have to spend every penny you get upgrading and repairing settlements. So if you get into a situation in legendary where you're fairly lean, like able to support 2 welf settlements with one stack, then you can let the savings accumulate over time. Their settlements can make a lot of money if you focus on growing the economy buildings. But yeah, even with all four forests under my control I was only ever able to have at most 3 decent full stacks before finishing my legendary sisters campaign.

[@michaelcaricoo]

Legend was in such a good mood after this one he didn't even call us fuckers, what a day

[@fatelvis1473]

he did, right at the very end. It was kinda mumbled about 1 second before the end of the video

[@Kiranes_]

Ahahah the little feint at the end actually got me good

[@Ichishi5]

Excellent video Legend. Keep up the good work.

[@TheOppiter]

12:45 holy shit that cackle surprised me O_O

[@Kasigil0]

best girl

[@glassberg5018]

"ohhh bullets" at 6:17 cracked me up

[@GungHoforHostess]

The only AI creative assembly programmed was how to deal with melee infantry. Ie. Boost stats unfairly

[@YourLittleMartian]

The ending of the vid got me, I thought Legend was just going to end a video without calling us fuckers I was bamboozled

[@dino3151]

That test is much better, thank you, like)

[@Sovann_the_Mighty]

Holy shit, that upkeep increase in insane!

[@aramenus6018]

I heavily respect you trying to rate the doomstack, not your cheesing skills. We all know those are ∞/10 :D Really good video, this and warpfire doomstack ones are starting to set some benchmarks for honest, proper testing and rating. Keep up this new content idea, no matter in which way it'll evolve. Cheers!

[@AfshinR.Laroudi]

That delayed "FUCKERS" made my day!

[@lovelyjubbly87]

STEAM SALE on dlc right now guys and the base game in the U.K

[@Dazanos]

This how Legend plays 90% of his doomstack videos. Yet I watch every single one of them...haha

[@Empiro3]

Regarding the WE economy -- you can't field as many armies as before, but you don't need many armies either. I recently beat a VH long campaign, and I got through most of the game with 4 armies, ending with 5 (which I didn't really need). Between teleporting and ambushing, a few good armies will carry you through the entire game. You might have more trouble if you want to paint the map though.

[@vincentalbers6932]

He read the comments and reacted to it. True legend

[@SGWeber]

I think the best part of this army is the last point you mentioned: the AI will never run away from it, so you can always be sure to eliminate them without needing perfect campaign map movement

[@Grails_Knight]

what about adding some branchwraith guards for ariel, and maybe 16 Treemen? ^^

[@mertgulgun6830]

was about to say you didn't say fuckers... and then you just said it in the last second :D

[@thinksmarter7159]

I live for LegendofTotalWar's impersonations! :P

[@fadope1612]

love the attitude of actually trying the units instead of relying of stupid ai :)

[@hughmungus6964]

22:44 there is something missing 22:46 There we go!

[@dangerousideas3881]

I think Doomstacks can be judged by three categories - Combat Power: How many scenarios that you are likely to encounter in the game can the dooomstack overcome and how much damage would it take in the process on average. It might not be possible for a single stack to prevail in every single scenario but if its overall results are good, then it warrants a high score. Strategic Power: Here you account for things such as upkeep, how easy it is to assemble said doomstack, how easy it is to replenish if it takes losses (having to drag yourself all the way back and spend several turns recruiting can be considered a negative) and other minor bonuses such as appearing weak to the AI. Ease of Use: Legend once said that he qualifies something as a doomstack where even an idiot can take it and win. Some stacks need a lot more skill to pilot well. The weapons team doomstack needs constant target prioritization and to know where and when to call down clan rats, wheres as norsca mammoth spam is pretty much box and left click.

[@Debilinside]

This would be good. He is really not consistent with his ratings, so these videos are more of an entertainment thing than educational. Traitfarming is not counted as negative, but Tier V units having high upkeep is? :D When you have tier 5 spam armies your economy should be rolling anyway. I dont play legendary, but even then upkeep should be much less of a factor... Or he should separate early game and late game stacks. Personally I find traitfarm stacks much less valuable than expensive stacks.

[@Olav_Hansen]

When I did the sisters campaign I held pretty good diplomacy with most (dark elves were annoying though) so I only ended up needing 3 armies to complete the campaign. Just taking it slow regenerating 1 forest at a time making sure order factions ended up dominant close to your forest, so i didn't even lose a single forest even after leaving them unprotected.

[@jonasc1771]

Much more entertaining and informative when u use the army as supposed to . But yea i get ur cheese addiction makes this hard . Great video !

[@AlfaWolfGaming]

Nice one that was surprising.

[@VulpesChama]

Something I repeat over and over again, I extremely dislike how difficulty is handled in Total War. The higher it gets, the more you have to compensate for AI-cheating then actually playing better. Usually it is the players who optimize the fun out of a game, by implementing too extreme efficency, but with Total War the developer did it first. The only race that remains as fun on higher difficulty as on lower are the Skaven. But then their main tactic is cheese either way. They are Skaven.

[@-pancakes7205]

which is why i only play on normal or hard cause it's just not fun playing when the AI gets a bunch of cheats. It's like CA doesn't know how to make the AI better on harder difficulties and instead make the AI have all the cheats and handicaps the player to make a fake challenge. Even on normal the AI still gets cheats, they still make 3 armies with just one settlement, it's obvious when you play as Brettonia and you confederate and you see they made 3 armies with just one province and they're over the peasant cap by 30 or more.

[@VulpesChama]

@@-pancakes7205 Yeah, and as player I really love cavalry and using infantry, but playing on higher difficulties I'd just punish myself senselessly

[@stefan1360]

@@-pancakes7205 that's false, the AI on normal only gets some extra growth, building cost reduction and recruitment costs reductions, they get no other cheats. Don't spread bs, the reason why they seem to have more armies is cause the AI will use all of its resources to upkeep those armies without thinking about a budget, they stop recruiting only when they make 0g per turn almost. Every faction also gets 2500g as passive income player included. And brettonian ai armies are always full of cheap trash aswell.

[@bloodmagiclord8253]

@@stefan1360 The 1 million gold Chaos exploit pretty much proved that the AI has infinite money.

[@stefan1360]

@@bloodmagiclord8253 so what are you trying to say? They don't have infinite money, that money comes from an exploit in the diplomacy which they don't have access to normally. They AI is still bound by upkeep costs when having armies otherwise their forces would be infinite. Do shut up if you know little about the game.

[@DartAleks]

12:45 - maniacal laughter.

[@Viryu9]

What are some of the strongest auto resolve armies which could autoresolve God?

[@SereglothIV]

Does a stegadon doomstack that has 95% chance in autoresolve against 4 armies of chaos count? If not, maybe we'll get to fight some actual gods in WH3 and find out.

[@khairallahdh]

The best example of such an army would probably be the pompous skink priest doom stack that Legend showed before that could probably fight an entire legendary chaos invasion single handed.

[@lurksnitchtongue8986]

Find a priest you degenerate furry. Honestly think that's the strongest AR army. Right behind you are a disappointment to your entire family.

[@dimapetrov2367]

Wouldn't be a Legend's video without skaven reference LOL

[@shorewall]

Husband leaving for work: Goodbye dear. Wife: And? Husband: I love you. Legend ending a video: See ya next time! Viewers: And? Legend: Fuckers.

[@KP-co5io]

Happy valentines people🎉🎉💕

[@archangel8172]

From what i see there is 75 ward save 35 physical res and 65 magic res thus the lowest value is 110 for physical res meaning he got 20 ward save more than he needed. This means he could have some other item providing something instead of it.

[@hazanko5875]

4:33 Ah, at last I truly see; Legend is a highly advanced AI designed to evaluate the performance of other AI.

[@doriangray229]

"...I would totally do it!... you know.." We know dude, we know.

[@LordBeff]

Sisters plus Ariel, best campaign I've ever done

[@DonBjerrum]

Playing Legendary Sisters at the moment. I am by no means a hardcore player, but I still find it too easy. Your starting hero is so strong, you rarely get invaded, and you are free to take what land you desire with little need to defend those. I love HE and WE, favorite factions, but both are too easy even on Leg. Wulfhart is an absolute nightmare in comparison.

[@zudu9328]

Skavens: no cheesy we need more cheesy battles, cheat WIN for the sakven!!!!

[@jakubchocholy6252]

Poor humans, almost every doomstack is being used against them :( But it's still so much fun watching them being massacred :D

[@stevewinters8103]

idk how feasible this would be, but you should make a doomstack vs doomstack tourney

[@josh8945]

ALSO the army upkeep and treasury doesn't go down when you lower the difficulty down back over the end turn.

[@laurentiumiu751]

With Durthu on very hard chamapig, having 5 fully developed settlements I could afford 3 armies. I was very happy when I could go from 2 to 3 armies. On Legendary, I would have to research the -15% upkeep for the same result. And since I could research it with 5 settlements anyway, I guess I could afford 4 armies on very hard and 3 on legendary at that point. Yet to be honest, I felt stronger after the update. I finished the champaign at aroun turn 130, while previously I finished it at aroun turn 140. I also felt I reached the desired troops early, thanks of the lack of limitations. On the other hand, previously I was part of the ordet tide, while after the update, Reickland broke a non-aggresion pact to go to war with me sa I had to wipe him out with the help of Norsca and Greenkins, both of which hate me a lot.

[@Ax_Dj0]

About upkeep on VH or legendary - Dutrhu (or Argwylon) can handle it because of his faction bonuses

[@Xaphnir]

They should really change income reduction to be multiplicative. Also, the additional 10% wouldn't be another -5,000, since it would just go from 120% increased upkeep to 130%.

[@saysapphy9055]

"Which kind of looks like a disaster battle, but its not" Is it "Call an amblulance but not for me" meme?

[@Shancox93]

The only reason you survived is because the A.I. didn't fully commit their war wagons at 4:03, you wouldn't have stood a chance if they did. Pure luck.

[@MikeAndersson]

Legends girl/nerd voice gets me everytime :D

[@Zombie1Boy]

Reminds me of the time I had 2 maxed out Kensai vs 4 armies of full stack Ashigaru

[@komradisaac4729]

Arahan secretly a skaven? Why yes. Yes she is.

[@Multiyuppp]

Ward save covers all resistances btw, Physical, Magic, missle, and fire.