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@lemongrassandsleep6352
@lemongrassandsleep6352 Жыл бұрын
I feel like a really overlooked line of Tara’s is in the music room, when she says “I could barely even say the _word_ ‘lesbian’” because it shows, like you guys said, that you can know yourself but also be effected by society’s view on you. There is so much stigma around the word lesbian, and it makes a lot of newer queer girls more confused, or even scared to use it. There’s a fear of being seen as a predator, or being wrong and everyone judging you if you realise “oh. I’m not a lesbian.” This happens for a lot of sexualities, as we live in a very comphet world, and it’s important to show that owning yourself is a journey, a journey that is 10000% worth it in the end.
@ChespinCraft
@ChespinCraft Жыл бұрын
After thinking I was bi for like 3 years and slowly realizing I wasn’t attracted to women, I was outside by myself thinking about my sexuality and literally couldn’t bring myself to say “I’m gay” out loud because everything about it made me hate it. Since then (~4 years ago) I’ve improved a lot but still saying the words “I’m gay” makes me recoil usually. I related to that scene so much it’s absurd.
@LuzOhCramity
@LuzOhCramity Жыл бұрын
A m i t y
@derhenri2002
@derhenri2002 Жыл бұрын
@@ChespinCraft So, so much for me as well. I'm fine with the word "gay" in English, but it just feels so incredibly wrong to say "schwul" in German.
@ZiggyonMars
@ZiggyonMars Жыл бұрын
Agreed. I was 12 when I realised I liked girls, but it took four years to realise I didn’t like men. This was way harder, and I’m still struggling to really accept it.
@emmz...
@emmz... Жыл бұрын
✨Ben hope hate club✨
@Mockingjay975
@Mockingjay975 Жыл бұрын
100%
@LadyMephistopheles
@LadyMephistopheles Жыл бұрын
Even Sebastian Croft is anti Ben Hope 😂
@12MyNameIs
@12MyNameIs Жыл бұрын
Amazing profile picture
@shayneoshaughnessy2471
@shayneoshaughnessy2471 Жыл бұрын
love that bash is basically the president
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. Жыл бұрын
Tao is Peak Asian Dad Energy with the savagery and the overprotective vibes. HOWEVER, he has some iconic zingers, he’s delightfully dramatic, supportive of Elle and also William GAO is awesome lol
@Ericaaaaaaaaaa
@Ericaaaaaaaaaa Жыл бұрын
Nick's mom is an unsung hero! She is perceptive, she knows when something is bothering Nick, she sees that Charlie is good for Nick, she listens, and she's so wonderful when Nick comes out to her.
@sadfaery
@sadfaery Жыл бұрын
Also, in the car after the fight in episode 7, you can see her have that aha moment when she asks Nick, "Charlie's a really special friend, isn't he?" It's not really used too much anymore, but "special friend" used to be a common euphemism for a same-sex partner. In this scene, we basically see her realize that her son isn't straight, but other than asking that one question, she lets him take his own time in coming out to her. And we see Nick taking his first step toward coming out to her, although obviously he's not quite ready for that final step yet.
@Mockingjay975
@Mockingjay975 Жыл бұрын
When you said about how Nick and Charlie may have more representation because they’re white cis men, it’s not . The books were originally all about them with only showing what happens to the other big characters when they’re with Nick and Charlie. They are the ultimate main characters. In the tv show Alice gives more details and story around the other big characters, but Nick and Charlie have always been the main characters. Edit: Holy shit thanks for all the likes
@Moth.187
@Moth.187 Жыл бұрын
that's what I was thinking
@shift9894
@shift9894 Жыл бұрын
Also Alice Oseman has actually addressed that in her first book Solitaire (where Nick and Charlie first show up) she was ignorant for making a book with all white characters, and tried to write more diversely with her other books
@ecowo57
@ecowo57 Жыл бұрын
exactly
@maelstromproductions6892
@maelstromproductions6892 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I never really thought about that because I knew the comic before the TV show even existed, seeing as not only is the comic about them primarily, but in the comic it’s implied that he’s not white (in the bonus comics on the webtoon he has brown skin). I also like how the show explores the other relationships, but I definitely mostly watched it for nick & charlie.
@andrewbunda1323
@andrewbunda1323 Жыл бұрын
also charlie isn't white his father is from spain and he's described as having a tan skin tone
@mysticmushroom4198
@mysticmushroom4198 Жыл бұрын
Shaaba: "I'm excited to see where Ben's character goes" Everyone who has read Solitaire: knowing that he gets worse😶
@IsabellaRamensky
@IsabellaRamensky Жыл бұрын
that’s what i said!! i both hated so much and felt so bad for solitaire ben
@mysticmushroom4198
@mysticmushroom4198 Жыл бұрын
@@IsabellaRamensky it's frustrating because I feel bad at the amount of self hatred he has, and how it just seems to get worse as he gets older. But at the same time the anger and dislike I have for him outweighs that because of the amount that he projects onto and abuses Charlie is completely unacceptable and disgusting. Ben is such a complex character. I don't want to hate him because he clearly hates himself, but his actions are so horrible that I can'f help but hate him
@engagingathena9965
@engagingathena9965 Жыл бұрын
that scene in solitaire absolutely ruined me.
@noahuisman8848
@noahuisman8848 Жыл бұрын
I was sooo sad when i read it, i was hoping he’d improve so i was just shocked that he got worse
@IsabellaRamensky
@IsabellaRamensky Жыл бұрын
@@mysticmushroom4198 exactly exactly!!!!
@Charbified
@Charbified Жыл бұрын
Jokingly calling any mild inconvenience homophobia is peak LGBT culture and you can't tell me any differently haha Heartstopper was so adorable! As they said, it was so nice to have something that didn't gloss over the bad stuff, but wasn't all about it?
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. Жыл бұрын
Mr. Ajayi the Art Teacher was an unsung hero. He was awesome and it reminded me of my future as an Elder Queer.
@Julessa
@Julessa Жыл бұрын
Aww! Mr. Ajayi is amazing!!!
@myra0224
@myra0224 Жыл бұрын
I NEED the teachers their story in one of the next seasons 😭
@Naps_lot
@Naps_lot Жыл бұрын
@@myra0224 I’m really hoping they get together within the next 2 seasons 😭
@Thatgenderconfused3mo
@Thatgenderconfused3mo Жыл бұрын
I sobbed at almost every scene he was in the first few times watching it
@lolli_popples
@lolli_popples Жыл бұрын
I can’t wait for Mr. Farouk in season 2. With killer lines such as: “Mr. Farouk, is pizza french?” “No.” And “Why did I go into teaching.”
@upliftothers4599
@upliftothers4599 Жыл бұрын
I love this
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. Жыл бұрын
7:47 The Trans Aspect was alluded just enough and it wasn’t trauma porn. You could see her journey without it being spoon fed to the audience.
@TehTeh911
@TehTeh911 Жыл бұрын
I cried with Nick's journey, the pirates scene and him realizing he could like both. I didn't expect going into the show that he would be bi, and was really until that point on the "bi exists guys" anger and then they did it and I just.. There's been bi people on screen before, but I don't think I ever really saw a bi coming out journey before and I felt so seen.
@OrangeStripedGekko
@OrangeStripedGekko Жыл бұрын
If you want another bi coming out journey, Callie Torres' character arc in Grey's Anatomy revolves around that in a big way. Her bisexuality only starts to be explored in season 4 of the show but then you have another eight seasons of it evolving :)
@TehTeh911
@TehTeh911 Жыл бұрын
@@OrangeStripedGekko Totally saw this late. I'm not really big on medical dramas unfortunately, but hopefully others see this and enjoy it!
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. Жыл бұрын
You know what? So many Movie/TV Commentators didn’t get Darcy going “Homophobia” in that scene.
@freddie.spaghetti
@freddie.spaghetti Жыл бұрын
homophobic of them /j
@MJ.P.SG-7
@MJ.P.SG-7 Жыл бұрын
I didn’t until now
@georgenorris2657
@georgenorris2657 Жыл бұрын
Please explain it. I still don´t get it,
@freddie.spaghetti
@freddie.spaghetti Жыл бұрын
@@georgenorris2657 basically, it’s common for queer people to joke about things that are inconvenient or otherwise not ideal for them being “homophobia”. another example could be like “ugh my bus is late this is so homophobic” or something. it’s obviously not homophobic in the actual sense of being prejudiced or discriminatory against a queer person, it’s more of a lighthearted joke. like “i’m gay and i dont like this” i guess? so darcy is just jokingly saying like “how dare you!” basically. and i guess there’s the added layer that she was having a moment with her girlfriend, and this being interrupted is homophobic in like a joking “wow we cant have nice things” kind of way.
@georgenorris2657
@georgenorris2657 Жыл бұрын
@@freddie.spaghetti Well thanks for that although I am still unsure. So you mean it is like saying "damn"?
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. Жыл бұрын
8:40 Our Lord and Saviour Alice Oseman has promised Isaac would get a bigger arc in Season 2 and I can’t wait to see the Aroace Discourse. #IWannaBelieveInRomance
@minikipp8549
@minikipp8549 Жыл бұрын
i love him cos he has serious aspec vibes and i kinda want him to be aro or ace ngl
@HeyCallMeLy
@HeyCallMeLy Жыл бұрын
@@minikipp8549 Alice has already confirmed that’s he’s aro/ace on Twitter and that she has “big asexual plans” for the new season!
@juliarose3826
@juliarose3826 Жыл бұрын
HELL YA
@myra0224
@myra0224 Жыл бұрын
I felt so connected to him and just knew he was aro-ace (or ace at least) so it's nice to know there's gonna be some rep for us 🙆🏻‍♀️
@BestFriendsWhoLiveTogether
@BestFriendsWhoLiveTogether Жыл бұрын
When Nick was looking up gay quizzes, the show became relatable to me on a personal level. I DID THAT.
@TheRaineWitch-old-channel
@TheRaineWitch-old-channel Жыл бұрын
IKR SAMEEEEE
@shawqin992
@shawqin992 Жыл бұрын
I also did that, but as a "straight ally" doing it "for fun." I didn't finish some of the quizzes because they asked about sexual preferences/attractions and I was like "none" Fast forward to a year ago finally realizing I'm actually ace (and maybe also aro) hahaha
@BestFriendsWhoLiveTogether
@BestFriendsWhoLiveTogether Жыл бұрын
@@shawqin992 Good for you on figuring yourself out!
@Mockingjay975
@Mockingjay975 Жыл бұрын
“I feel like we need to watch this series for a third time” I have actually been counting, I’m on rewatch number thirty one and counting. I’m literally not even kidding.
@Julessa
@Julessa Жыл бұрын
Probs me too, but haven't counted. Lol
@sadfaery
@sadfaery Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I haven't been counting, but I literally re-watched the first 4 episodes earlier this evening and have seen it at least a dozen times all the way through, and many, many more times in watching reaction videos to it. This show is SO addictive! I can't stop watching it!
@nonexistingvoid
@nonexistingvoid Жыл бұрын
I gave up on counting. I keep rewatching it whenever I feel bad. And I feel bad often...
@zainyy.k
@zainyy.k Жыл бұрын
thats amaazing, im on 14 if im remembering corectly
@Regenschirmtier
@Regenschirmtier Жыл бұрын
Wow, and I was out here thinking that 12 times was a lot 😂 I'll definitely watch it again and again until the day I die
@mackthompson616
@mackthompson616 Жыл бұрын
incase y’all haven’t seen it, Tori is actually the main character in Oseman’s book “Solitaire”
@sharks2571
@sharks2571 Жыл бұрын
Personally my favourite character is Issac, however this is incredibly biased because an ace character will always have my heart (although not confirmed this season, he gives off strong ace vibes and Alice has confirmed on twitter that he is ace)
@KANDI-
@KANDI- Жыл бұрын
tori is also asexual if you didn’t know
@jossposs3400
@jossposs3400 Жыл бұрын
Same. And I'm so much like Isaac in so many other ways as well, loved him before it was confirmed he was ace. And I didn't know about Tori!!! No wonder she's one of my favorites 😃 Guess I'll read Solitaire after Radio Silence.
@myra0224
@myra0224 Жыл бұрын
Same! Whenever someone's ace, I feel that extra bond with them XD
@myra0224
@myra0224 Жыл бұрын
@@jossposs3400 Radio Silence is hands down my favorite book, I hope you're enjoying it 😭
@jossposs3400
@jossposs3400 Жыл бұрын
@@myra0224 I haven't started it yet, but it seems like everyone loves it so I'm sure it's great!!!
@alexrightnow2531
@alexrightnow2531 Жыл бұрын
finally someone who agrees with me about tao 😭 I genuinely didn't like him very much in the show and I definitely preferred the book version of tao
@Dee-pv8cy
@Dee-pv8cy Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Some of the plot changes that were made have actually turned Tao into the biggest bully of Charlie in the whole show. He literally finishes a speech about how Charlie feels his existence is annoying to others and then declares his intention to ignore him a bit longer for punishment when he clearly knows how much worse that is for Charlie than for most people.
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. Жыл бұрын
Tori is just so iconic. I loved her presence on screen. #OlderSisterMagic
@It_is_Okay_to_be_Sad
@It_is_Okay_to_be_Sad Жыл бұрын
#OlderSisterMagic ✨🤌
@justpassingthrough7728
@justpassingthrough7728 Жыл бұрын
Heartstopper is revolutionary and beautiful and just so good, and fills a really needed-but-unfilled niche of cozier LGBTQ representation, cuz I think historically LGBTQ characters have often been kept to more "gritty" stuff.
@sadfaery
@sadfaery Жыл бұрын
I think Nick is probably my favorite character for his emotional maturity and the fact that he is the king of healthy communication, as well as the fact that he is the anti-Ben and is so thoughtful and appreciative of Charlie and understands that Charlie has been dealing the trauma of the abusive relationship with Ben. Plus, Nick Nelson - bi icon. Love the bi representation here - it's so healthy and it isn't over-sexualized or negative. And I love that Nick might be hella confused about his attraction to and feelings for Charlie, but he doesn't try to run away from them or fight them. He just faces them head on and works on understanding them. He might not know what his sexuality is in most of this season, but he does know how he feels about Charlie and he is sure about that. Plus, he's adorable, he has a great relationship with his mother (who is also a rock star here), and he's got Nellie by his side. Kit Connor did an outstanding job of bringing Nick to life and showing all of the nuance of his struggles throughout the season, as well. And Joe Locke - wow, for a first ever professional acting role, he did such an amazing job of bringing Charlie Spring to life. They all did such a great job, and I need this show to just win all of the awards now.
@liyanai151
@liyanai151 Жыл бұрын
I would rate Tara just as highly as Darcy! I absolutely love how she inspires Nick to be true to himself and repeatedly gives him space to open up to her about things he’s hiding from everyone else.
@aster3110
@aster3110 Жыл бұрын
Tao was most definitely my favorite. i really related to the way he handled relationships (especially platonic) at that age. everything felt so big and overpowering when it came to emotions. everything felt so personal. i had a hard time being vulnerable and it caused me to seek control in my friendships and life in unhealthy ways. i appreciated seeing that portrayed and seeing his growth and how it mimicked my own.
@IsabellaRamensky
@IsabellaRamensky Жыл бұрын
10:02 i think nick and charlie are prioritized because heartstopper was based around their relationship in solitaire (the others weren’t in solitaire). so like they are the “main characters” i’m glad alice added more diverse characters when creating heartstopper
@myra0224
@myra0224 Жыл бұрын
Nah, they literally have a whole comics series of books 😅😅 Aled got his story in Radio Silence, Loveless focuses on someone else in the universe, I haven't read "I was born for this" though 😅
@sagieaesir13
@sagieaesir13 Жыл бұрын
definitely! it's not the 'white cis' thing, it's literally that they're the main characters...
@TheLeNui02
@TheLeNui02 Жыл бұрын
For me Isaac was the best Charakter. He always had a book with him and let none of the drama bother him. Also I imagined him to be the asexual representation, that I wanted. He just loves his friends and wants them to be happy.
@lemontea1145
@lemontea1145 Жыл бұрын
Heartstopper is the cutest show ever! So happy you guys are rating the characters!! ❤🧡💛💚💙💜
@CrossoverKid92
@CrossoverKid92 Жыл бұрын
favourite characters: TV: Charlie - I relate to him on so many levels Comic: Aled - He's just plain adorable
@KANDI-
@KANDI- Жыл бұрын
That’s the same as me! I read radio silence and Aled became my favourite character lol.
@myra0224
@myra0224 Жыл бұрын
I just wanna give Aled a big hug 😭
@imbored457
@imbored457 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I like aled, he’s nice Why wasn’t he in the show and there was Isaac instead?
@CrossoverKid92
@CrossoverKid92 Жыл бұрын
@@imbored457 Alice felt they couldn't give Aled a satisfying story arc in the series without derailing the elements of Radio Silence, and instead hoped to save his story for a possible Radio Silence adaptation in the future instead.
@imbored457
@imbored457 Жыл бұрын
@@CrossoverKid92 oh okay! I don’t really know what radio silence is though, could you explain
@Soph_252
@Soph_252 Жыл бұрын
The reason why nick and charlie are shown so much is because its their story. Its their world and their journey which is being followed.
@smaragdapapadopoulou7807
@smaragdapapadopoulou7807 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I agree
@rainestormee
@rainestormee Жыл бұрын
Exactly! TORI AND DARCY ARE LITERALLY THE BEST CHARACTERS
@ChattieTheMadChatter
@ChattieTheMadChatter Жыл бұрын
Love Darcy, so pleased Tara and Darcy's story was expanded in the show, as was Tao and Elle ❤🧡💛💚💙💜
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. Жыл бұрын
OMG FINALLY! We can never have enough of ‘Heartstopper’ Content. 👏🏽 P.S. BRITISH South Asian/Brown Representation in Season 2.
@bitchenboutique6953
@bitchenboutique6953 Жыл бұрын
I’d be so curious to see your opinions on Our Flag Means Death, which for me (us, including my cohost as well, but mostly meeeeee) is the greatest queer representation I’ve ever experienced, because being a GenXer, when we were young pretty much everything was TRAGIC but we ate it up because it was all we got… but just as things started getting awesome as positive it was like all the characters were half our age and we were like “um, okay, I’ll go sit over here in the grandma corner I guess?” But OFMD is like diversity-a-gogo! It’s like colors and bodies and sexualities and genders and ages and woooooo everyone is so gorgeous and complex and lovely in every possible way. So yeah I recommend it!!!
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. Жыл бұрын
Nellie, Tori and Nick’s Mom are tied in first place for me.
@broblerone413
@broblerone413 Жыл бұрын
nick's mom is amazing
@ChattieTheMadChatter
@ChattieTheMadChatter Жыл бұрын
Love that Olivia Colemon is playing her and that Tori's slurp straw moments were done so well 😆😆
@lauraevans2104
@lauraevans2104 Жыл бұрын
Tori, then Nick for me. I love how supportive Tori is. I really like Nick’s journey and how before he had figured out himself he started standing up for Charlie and Tao.
@kingevit948
@kingevit948 Жыл бұрын
My two favorite things: Heartstopper and Jamie and Shaaba!! Always love your videos ♥️🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️
@Mockingjay975
@Mockingjay975 Жыл бұрын
Same!!!
@kingevit948
@kingevit948 Жыл бұрын
I also loved this show bc I saw so much of it with myself. A lot of people tell me I am the American version of nick (I play football, have a similar haircut, am bisexual, and have a dork of a bf who has Charlie’s hair and personality). It was super refreshing and validating for me to see this. Thanks Alice Oseman!
@nognog3333
@nognog3333 Жыл бұрын
I just finished reading soliatire yesterday (alice's first book, it's about Tori and happens during vol. 4 of the comics) which put me right back into the heartstopper hype so this is very well timed
@Tustin2121
@Tustin2121 Жыл бұрын
I really need to read Solitaire. But I have yet to find an audiobook format of it, and I don’t have time to sit down and read it... 😔
@Thatcatsimpwhodraws
@Thatcatsimpwhodraws Жыл бұрын
I really love Darcy. She has so much positive energy!
@ChattieTheMadChatter
@ChattieTheMadChatter Жыл бұрын
I highly recommend reading Alice Oseman's "Loveless" for more cosy, but heartfelt amazing queer rep in books and just the societal messages we give ourselves in general! SO GOOD!!!!!❤🧡💛💚💙💜
@myra0224
@myra0224 Жыл бұрын
Yasss, finally aro-ace rep 🥰
@Mockingjay975
@Mockingjay975 Жыл бұрын
AKAKSKDKRIID HEARTSTOPPER IS EVERYTNING ITS THE BEST IT MADE ME FEEL COMFERTABLE WITH MY BISEXUALITY IM SO GLAD YOU CID THIS VIDEO Also omg first :)
@Thatgenderconfused3mo
@Thatgenderconfused3mo Жыл бұрын
I relate to Tao in a way. In the bathroom scene where he’s like “you’re just gonna call me a jealous over protective friend” or something and I sobbed. I’ve been the jealous friend. I’ve been so petrified of losing so many wonderful friends that when they made new friends or had other friends and they didn’t hang out with me I’d feel frantic and like I had to save everything. But like instead I’d just pushed them away and lost them anyway. Ik that’s not the entire thing but Jesus Christ the amount I sobbed at that realization. Thankfully I’ve grown out of that but younger me couldn’t handle that
@JustKatherinePierce
@JustKatherinePierce Жыл бұрын
In my opinion you can’t rate books characters in the same way as series characters. I agree I like book Tao more than series Tao
@mrdr0161
@mrdr0161 Жыл бұрын
I think people prefer book Tao because show delves more into his insecurities about being alone and abandonment issues, which portrays him as a more defensive, offensive and protective person than in the books
@WickedChimera
@WickedChimera Жыл бұрын
8:18 I'm pretty sure tumblr calls them TaoElle (coz it sounds like towel 🤣)
@inkedimagination
@inkedimagination Жыл бұрын
Also the books follow certain relationships. Yes, this one followed Charlie and Nick. Alice Oesman has so many books! Please look into them!
@Leena79
@Leena79 Жыл бұрын
Every time I think about Heartstopper, I smile, and see some pink fluffy clouds in my periphery. I love this show. I haven't read the books, so I can't make comparisons, so...I can relate to Nick's self-discovery the most, because I've been there. I think my personality is somewhere between Isaac and Tao, so, also relate there. I've also been awkward and having difficulties finding friends in school, so Elle, too. And Tara with her coming out struggles. It's like, I'm all of them and none of them? But I think Charlie, purely as a character is my favourite. I think I need a rewatch!💗
@smaragdapapadopoulou7807
@smaragdapapadopoulou7807 Жыл бұрын
About the fandom promoting the cis white romance of Nick and Charlie above the others, I don't think that's the case. In the graphic novels, especially, *they* are the main characters. I mean, Charlie is the protagonist and Nick is the co-star. Or at least that's how *I* saw it in the books. In the show, though, there is so much more *time* given to flash out the side characters as well, which is *amazing*, ofc, and I love that, but it can bea bit confusing about who's story we're watching. Idk, I don't want to come across as not caring about Tara and Darcy or Elle and Tao, I love all of those characters (I've given them 9, 9.5, 8 and 7.5 in that order) I just think that they're not the main characters
@esf34147
@esf34147 Жыл бұрын
yeah, charlie and nick have always been the protagonists, but i LOVE that other characters are getting more focus in the show. the adaptation gives alive the opportunity to expand on the lives of tao, elle, tara and darcy (and i hope isaac too) which is really cool
@smaragdapapadopoulou7807
@smaragdapapadopoulou7807 Жыл бұрын
@@esf34147 Yes! Exactly! That's why I think I personally like the show better. Ik y'all come for me for saying it, but-
@omnichrome9784
@omnichrome9784 Жыл бұрын
I read the comic before seeing the TV show. I really think their relationship is central because the comic is actually told from Charlie’s point of view and he is the main character. One thing I really loved about the TV show was to see more of the stories of the friends who were just side characters in the comic.
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. Жыл бұрын
Shaaba, I agree with “No Fisticuffs!” but an exception for Harry the Homophobe in that moment.
@Julessa
@Julessa Жыл бұрын
I can't tell you how many times I have watched this beautiful series! I would say that my favorite character is Nick, because I like how he is pushing through a really confusing time in his life to discover his true self. I love that he is able to stand up to his friends, and that he gets more and more comfortable being himself in public. I love watching his journey! I also really love Elle because she is practical, sweet, and strong, and she beautifully navigating her way through a lot of difficult changes in her life. ❤️
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. Жыл бұрын
Sebastian Croft IRL is very posh and cool. Also, he himself is the President of the Ben Hope Hate Club.
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. Жыл бұрын
12:25 I was inspired by the beach to come up with: “What is life but finding someone who loves you in a romantic way and not just a friend way?”
@flicnerdy4385
@flicnerdy4385 Жыл бұрын
The aromantics are crying rn
@ferninthehouse
@ferninthehouse Жыл бұрын
@@flicnerdy4385 im not aro but i agree that does sound a bit exclusive towards aro people.
@finnie1017
@finnie1017 Жыл бұрын
love darcy as well, her fashion sense is amazing and she’s so chilled out. gotta love tori with that straw tho 😂😂❤️❤️
@Rabaheo
@Rabaheo Жыл бұрын
I just love the thrive vibe of Heartstoppers. Of confronting problems with communication instead of drama for the most part, and just the adorable wholesomeness.
@IsabellaRamensky
@IsabellaRamensky Жыл бұрын
5:54 i feel like tao’s behavior was so much better explained in the books. the whole “scared of being alone thing” got on my nerves. i also prefer him in the books Shaaba!!
@parkergreaves9975
@parkergreaves9975 Жыл бұрын
tori is also my fav, we love our well-hydrated queen
@ThePokemonPrinceYT
@ThePokemonPrinceYT Ай бұрын
0:20 ''I thought you were just being annoying like usual'' Jamie's face 😂 He feels so betrayed
@queerdinosaur4334
@queerdinosaur4334 Жыл бұрын
The reason for Nick and Charlie being the main characters is simply because Alice slightly mentions them in Solitary and she wanted to explore their love, and Charlie is actually Spanish (at least in the books
@chloe-fy4wc
@chloe-fy4wc Жыл бұрын
The thing about Nick and Charlie is true. They are the cis white mlm couple. However, so far they are clearly the main characters of the show. Their love story is the central plot and they have more screen time. So that plays major role in their popularity
@esf34147
@esf34147 Жыл бұрын
yeah, and in the comic its all about them. with the show alice has been able to show more of the other characters but since the beggining (many years ago) it's been manily about nick and charlie, they're the protagonists so it makes sense that fans talk mostly about them. if the show was equally about all the characters, then we could definitely say that fans favor them for being white and cis, but it's not the case here, it's really mainly just because they've been the protagonists ever since the comicsc started
@myra0224
@myra0224 Жыл бұрын
@@esf34147.... Alice wrote so many stories in the universe... Tori in Solitaire, Aled (not in the series, but in the comics) and Frances in Radio Silence, Georgia in Loveless... They're all connected stories and there WILL be more representation, but give it time... Alice has been focusing on Heartstopper a lot because it's so loved by people. But I'm pretty sure volume 5 will be the last so we'll get new characters and stories Edit (for the original commenter): also, let's not forget Tara, Darcy and Elle have gotten a lot more story progression in the series, so it's definitely not just focused on Nick and Charlie for the sake of them being white and men. Other than that, you can also say there's only teen lgbtq+ rep, but that's not an issue apparently? (I can't wait for the teachers to get their spotlight though 😭)
@mrdr0161
@mrdr0161 Жыл бұрын
@@myra0224 I would love a book or graphic novel about Tao and Elle exploring their relationship. How their parents react, how they deal with long distance in university you know
@youareherediversity7321
@youareherediversity7321 Жыл бұрын
Jamie needs to read the graphic novels, or wait for the next series, there is a whole book around the saying “I love you”.
@ChattieTheMadChatter
@ChattieTheMadChatter Жыл бұрын
Loved the series expanding on the books and moments of camera shots on Charlie's feet going on tiptoes when they kiss. But the Beach scenes, whilst good, i missed the Nick running really far out I to the sea and shouting "and not in a friend way" felt bigger in the book.
@youareherediversity7321
@youareherediversity7321 Жыл бұрын
@@ChattieTheMadChatter yeah, I agree.
@hayleigh7354
@hayleigh7354 Жыл бұрын
“9.8, you’ve got to leave room for improvement” AVPM fans where are you pls I need to know I’m not the only one who quoted that whole scene when I heard that
@emileheskey2754
@emileheskey2754 Жыл бұрын
Oh my goddd that reference went straight over my head thanks for mentioning it im gonna watch it again asap. I need more quirrelmort in my life
@Coccinelf
@Coccinelf 6 ай бұрын
Tori has been elevated to my favourite character with her recent development in the comic but I already really liked her.
@CrystalMermaid6
@CrystalMermaid6 Жыл бұрын
I love tori ❤she’s such an amazing sibling
@SquidgeTastic
@SquidgeTastic Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see you guys watch and react. I may have watched it a few times. I don't want to read the comics and find out what happens, but this season was so feel good, I'm just waiting for the 'something goes wrong' moment...
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. Жыл бұрын
Shaaba-Jamie Banter is best. It’s like a Rom-Com meets Screwball Comedy.
@roncaron8939
@roncaron8939 Жыл бұрын
I'M JUST WILD ABOUT HARRY!" He needs redemption. He's the Homophobic, Deep in the Closet, Protagonist, who holds the puppet strings. He's the catalyst, who truly ignited Nick & Charlies Beautiful Journey. Harry is the Character, we love to hate and Cormac, they boy we love to love
@Rain-np7tk
@Rain-np7tk Жыл бұрын
also! if you're craving more hearstopper content before season 2, I highly recommend reading the webcomic. It's a bit different obviously, but I personally enjoyed it
@williamswindler105
@williamswindler105 Жыл бұрын
Shaaba: 'We need to watch it a third time.' Me, haven watched it 15 or 17 times in one month: 'ONLY TWO TIMES!'
@clara33355
@clara33355 Жыл бұрын
Heehee I love Shaaba saying "I love Darcy's fashion sense" when their hair looks the same lol
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. Жыл бұрын
I wish I had ‘Heartstopper’ a little while back so I could be happier but better late than never, I suppose. As a Cisgay in school, I wish I could be more articulate. It takes a lot of learning.
@YourQueerGreatAuntie
@YourQueerGreatAuntie 5 ай бұрын
I loved Tao's mum and how much she just adopted Elle! As (I guess!) an Elder Queer, the whole story moved me deeply, because it is sooooo different to my experiences growing up, and I see how gentle and supportive the younger generations are of one another. Heartstopper lets me know that the future is in safe hands. Love, your honourary Lesbian Auntie xoxox
@aimsleynoodle
@aimsleynoodle Жыл бұрын
Such a beautiful series, need to add the graphic novels to my list. May give the show a rewatch this evening - I was SO sad when I'd finished it because I wanted to learn more about their journeys. So pleased to hear there will be a season 2, really hoping to see more of Isaac and Tori. Also, Nick's mum and Charlie's dad - love them.
@ashurholt29
@ashurholt29 Жыл бұрын
Oh my goodness I was waiting for this one >:] I absolutely adore heartstopper! I swear I’ve watched the series so many times and I have all of Alice osemans books and can’t wait for the 5th book! But yes, my favourite character is tori, probably because I’ve read solitaire. She has a deep meaning and her personal life wasn’t really romanticised or different from the normal, which I find quite nice she’s a chill character with very deep and wise thoughts!
@FallenTwin
@FallenTwin Жыл бұрын
I love all the characters so much but honestly Nick is my favourite. At first I didn't know why I started crying at some scenes or get very touched by some moments but I think I relate to him a lot even if we don't really share experiences in life. It is just something about his journey that hits a chord.
@Jennifer-on6gw
@Jennifer-on6gw Жыл бұрын
For me Darcy is my favorite character too because I can identify so much with her! She really represents the side of me that is outgoing and loud and confident very well and I just love her XD
@BookishGecko
@BookishGecko Жыл бұрын
I read Solitaire before I read/watched Heartstopper and that book made me loathe Ben.
@Julessa
@Julessa Жыл бұрын
Ooh.. I just got solitaire, but I haven't read it yet!
@myra0224
@myra0224 Жыл бұрын
@@Julessa prepare yourself 😬
@Brand_Fish
@Brand_Fish Жыл бұрын
Whenever Ben came on screen I would say "Why are you back? No one likes you," My friends thought it was funny, and I stand by what I say. There's an awesome scene in the graphic novel with Darcy where Tara is talking to Nick, and Darcy sneaks up and blows a trumpet in Tara's ear. I adore it. El, love her. An absolute icon. Sweet little Nellie, you cannot hate her... unless you're allergic to dogs, but it's still hard. Nick is a golden retriever boyfriend. But, in the books he's so much more of a himbo, both in design and relative braincell count. /pos Charlie is a hekin trooper with the "No! Nick isn't straight," He's so sweet Tori does straight up appear in the books, and I think she has her own series or book.
@chiarardn2401
@chiarardn2401 2 ай бұрын
You should make another video rating character from Our Flag Means Death. That show is queer (and neurodivergent) representation at its best!
@marielevinska7329
@marielevinska7329 Жыл бұрын
I'm the exact opposite - absolutely adored Tao, thougt he was better than in the book. And was slightly disppointed by Darcy, who I loved in the books, but the show didn't really do her justice (in my opinion). And now I want to watch it again... great XD
@brenna5200
@brenna5200 Жыл бұрын
oof I don’t think I could pick a single favorite character from Heartstopper. I love them all so much! But I will say I relate to Charlie the most. Like, too much. Sorta feels like Alice Oseman was watching me or something. Lol jk. But I do really appreciate these stories being told. I wish I had had these characters when I was in high school
@coasttocoast2011
@coasttocoast2011 Жыл бұрын
Loved Heartstopper and can’t wait to see season 2
@mazzy_ivy
@mazzy_ivy 11 ай бұрын
I LOVE ISAAC SO MUCH and yes im incredibly biased i was just so happy to see aroace representation i freaked out and now hes one of my favorite characters :)
@UnofficialMarsBar
@UnofficialMarsBar Жыл бұрын
Ok when I first started watching Jamie’s channel I immediately thought of Charlie and I don’t know why - also Tori is my favourite character too
@ErinOlson-SarcasticJellybean
@ErinOlson-SarcasticJellybean Жыл бұрын
I hope I'm not the only one who's watched Heartstopper more times than I can count at this point since the show came out... It has quickly become a comfort show of mine and I watch it every time I need a bit of queer joy in my life.
@Moth.187
@Moth.187 Жыл бұрын
my favourite character is tori shortly followed by both Darcy and elle
@ajbrooks2112
@ajbrooks2112 Жыл бұрын
Ben reminds me of that guy in the aita video the other day that was homophobic but then OP was expected to help him with coming out
@thaliapope9581
@thaliapope9581 Жыл бұрын
I love heart stopper and my brother is obsessed with it, I wish I could have had this kind of representation when I was his age.
@goodbi6156
@goodbi6156 Жыл бұрын
Charlie Spring ofc.
@adamparrott797
@adamparrott797 Жыл бұрын
Nelle. 10000000000 Nick. 9 Darcy. 9 Elle. 9 Charlie. 8 Tori. 8 Tara. 8 Isaac. 7 Tao. 7 Ben. 4 Harry. 4 I cried with Nick's journey, I was like that was me I am Bi, I only interacted as a member of the LGBT community from 2019 at the age of 30 (Yeah sorry took awhile to accept myself in that sense, even thought I told people before but still....) This show, is a rock, I feel it might have helped me if I'd had, had it when I was younger. sorry I went serious, can I just add I've been watching Jamie's journey for awhile and I'm so happy you get to be your authentic self, congrats to both of you as well.
@blueJAYbirdie
@blueJAYbirdie Жыл бұрын
People actually really like Ben's actor. He's cool
@clara33355
@clara33355 Жыл бұрын
People were sending hate stuff to Sebastian (Ben's actor)?? That man literally has "Ben Hope Hate Club" in his bio and bullies his own character regularly lmao
@planetlttie9521
@planetlttie9521 Жыл бұрын
Omg I love heartstopper and I love you guys! This is perfect!
@fannychainiau
@fannychainiau Жыл бұрын
What I loooooove about the show, is that they focus much more on the "other" characters (meaning other than Nick and Charly), which is both very helpful for the story and such great representation. Thank you for the video, so lovely !
@salamanda11
@salamanda11 Жыл бұрын
I loved the first season so much!! I can’t wait for more. Such lovely queer representation. 🧡
@fallingbisexualdisaster
@fallingbisexualdisaster Жыл бұрын
sameeeee I did also feel personally attacked in nicks journey The am I gay quiz I died lmao
@canofsnow1340
@canofsnow1340 Жыл бұрын
I WAS WONDERING WHAT U THINK ABOUT HEART STOPPER
@abigailhoneycombe
@abigailhoneycombe Жыл бұрын
Darcy will always be my favourite Osemanverse character and nobody will ever change my mind
@shiroi201
@shiroi201 Жыл бұрын
Jamie! The beach scene was so precious!😆 nick is definitely a 10/10 adorable cute golden retriever who actually can communicate his feelings and issues to his love interest😊
@rubyyyyyyyyyyyyyy4782
@rubyyyyyyyyyyyyyy4782 Жыл бұрын
Omg I am feeling so bad right now and both of you always make me smile so thanks for uploading
@christinakyleloves
@christinakyleloves Жыл бұрын
Love it when you 2 are together in a video!!💗💛 Peaches and Spuds!!🍑🥔
@ghjgme
@ghjgme Жыл бұрын
I think Charlie is my favorite, he is so cute but seems so fragile at times, I want to protect him. I probably relate most with Issac.
@megdelaney3677
@megdelaney3677 Жыл бұрын
Darcy "That girl? I'm right here!"
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