Raven's Daddy Issues Hits Different As An Adult...

[@dahliarose6986]

Raven had such a taggic back story. I grew up with the show and watched every episode with my dad. I never realized how deep it was. Now i see why my dad loved the show. This version needs to come back. Literally Starfire and Raven had a freaky Friday theme episode.

[@julycrack1096]

taggic

[@arcticxabyss]

i honestly don't think raven would've done as well as she did, if she never met the teen titans and FINALLY gain the courage to defeat her dad once and for all. also, it's really nice to see raven look so happy and smile every now and then.

[@DragonStar524]

Nevermore has to be my favorite Raven episode. Seeing how her emotions affect the strength of her powers. She loves her friends, but it makes sense why she acts the way she does. If her powers go out of control, it could be disastrous, and she doesnt want that.

[@darkzak47]

Raven is exactly how you create a strong and compelling female protagonist. Every other idiot studio, like Disney would do well to pay attention to her popularity.

[@grandcanyon-d4d]

Prime Arcee is better

[@gailasprey7787]

When you look at female characters that people like you see the pattern: Raven, Moana, Rapunzel, Mulan, Isabella, Luisa, Mirabelle, Ashoka. All of these have flaws. Every. Single. One. Raven is closed off from people as a flaw, Moana is slightly egotistical as a flaw, Rapunzel is naive, Mulan is self conscious, Isabella is a people pleaser, Luisa and Mirabelle also follow that pattern, Ashoka is too brash and doesn’t listen to her master. As you can see from teen titans to Star Wars the pattern is having a good flaw, a good fight the protagonist must face. This is often why people don’t like heroes like Captain Marvel but love Natasha Romanoff, why people hate Rey Skywalker but love Ashoka, why people dislike Asha and love Mirabelle. They feel like people because they act like people. They have struggles and flaws and those flaws are connected to their stories in many ways. Raven is closed off because of her father’s influence and lack of real friends her whole life, Moana is egotistical in some ways because she’s the daughter of the chief of the village, Rapunzel is naive because she’s never seen the outside world before, Mulan is self conscious because she’s been told her only worth comes from her looks, Isabella, Luisa and Mirabelle are people pleasers because of Abuela and Ashoka is brash because she has Anakin as her Jedi master and is 16. All of these characters have a flaw that makes sense due to their story, one they don’t completely overcome but do improve and a rounded out personality. There’s a reason people make hour long analysis videos on Ashoka or Mirabelle’s journey, but never one on Rey or Asha. It’s because they don’t really HAVE a journey outside of the plot and they do things… because plot. We don’t understand what it means to them, why it means this to them or what they’re afraid of losing if they go into the unknown. We don’t understand what the other characters mean to them etc. Whereas you can go on and on about how Ashoka or Mirabelle learns their lessons about themselves and relationships and flaws for hours you could talk about Rey for as long as you can talk about the plot of movie and same with Asha. Their character IS the plot.

[@Kingofredeyes]

One thing I feel that goes unmentioned a lot about this version of Raven is the dynamic between her's and Trigon's power. From the get-go, she is strong enough and reject and defeat Trigon, and it is made clear that Trigon needs her. The issue is after a lifetime of being told that she exists only to serve her father and that he is all powerful and that she is helpless, she begins to believe it and doubt herself. She is effectively gaslit and bullied into the situation. This is very similar to how abusers control their victims by making them feel helpless, weak, and dependent upon their abuser, much like how Trigon makes Raven believe her power is actually his. Their dynamic is actually an amazingly well told story of how so many times the victim of abuse has the power to stop the abuse by taking action themselves, either in speaking out and exposing the abuser, or even in some cases directly fighting back depending on the situation.

[@winteronice]

Trigon being the son of Lucifer is mindblowing. Raven has God for a grandpa.

[@kevinshanahanii4966]

Great grandpa to be exact

[@trentjackson7725]

If only she knew of God's existence. :(

[@gailasprey7787]

@@trentjackson7725she probably knows about Christianity, just probably doesn’t believe it.

[@sweetcandy2391]

​@@gailasprey7787wtf💀

[@sweetcandy2391]

Trigon don't have a father, he was born from all the evil in the universe

[@AnimationBliss]

I really loved the original Teen Titans series. It was a pretty deep and compelling series and Raven is one of my all time favorite characters from the series, especially since she had such a tragic backstory.

[@xoxCarolxox]

Watching the episodes where they dealt with Raven's backstory as a kid was so heart breaking. I LOVED Raven and still do she was and is amazing. Watching her struggle and seeing why Raven was so closed off while she very clearly loved her friends. The OG Teen Titans was and will always be the best in my eyes. ❤️ love the video

[@zerotohero884]

I still remember how bad i felt during the entire arc of the show when i was a kid, it looked so hopeless ,like when Cyborg uses his ultimate attack, using the energy of the entire tower and all that it does is...Nothing, just for the end of this nightmare to come in the form of Raven bringing all the hope back.

[@WorldWalker128]

I've always had a loathing for people that treat the offspring of This or That as being just as guilty of crimes committed or vile opinions and mindset as their parents(like that priest). A child does not choose to whom they are born. By treating the innocent child as they would the guilty parent, they only risk creating a self-fulfilling prophecy. 'If everyone believes that I am a monster no matter what I say or do, then why not BE the monster?' (SPOILERS) Granted it's a bit more complicated in Raven's particular case, as she'd become The Portal eventually no matter what kind of person she grew up to become, but as we-the-audience saw, she very much so was not bound by her origins to be an evil being. She fought evil wherever and whenever she could.

[@rockowlgamer631]

Just makes the new Teen Titans Go show look even more like a joke.

[@brickinterviewertv]

i remember watching these episodes as a kid and it freaked me out

[@nmoney6655]

I dealt with severe PTSD for years so I know how Raven feels

[@ashleeramey]

The other titans should have given Raven a present for her birthday, maybe books 😅😅❤

[@Lighthouse850]

I think Raven should get a DC movie of her own!

[@grandcanyon-d4d]

It would flop, she's not interesting.

[@omarcogle1965]

​@@grandcanyon-d4dSo why not have an Animated movie about Raven then.

[@grandcanyon-d4d]

@@omarcogle1965 it was TT vs JL, but sidelined for Damian like most of plenty of these movies.

[@WorldWalker128]

They'd eff it up.

[@deactivatechloeandaudrina56u89]

One for Gabby’s dollhouse for why Catrat hates water

[@kanna231]

I do feel bad for Raven I've mean Tragon is one of those demons that wants everyone and using her to do that.

[@katarinaclaes96]

Amazing video thanks so much for sharing.🤗

[@nil981]

Of the teen titans, my favorites are Robin and beast boy. Theyre both the most relatable and the funniest.

[@supattreewatanawong5025]

it more Raven's origin sogood no writer want to risk and change it

[@ashleeramey]

Can you do a video on the character Karai from 2003 teenage mutant ninja turtles?

[@pamelaprice7163]

Great video. I'm just a little confused as to Raven's backstory that you're telling? (Please totally correct me, because I know the cartoon well but I know very little about the 80s comics or the TT film that came out in 2016). Are you mixing different backstories? For example, you start out by saying that Trigon wants Raven to rule next to him, but then you talk about the episode where Raven was intended to die so he could come to earth. That seems super contradictory. I hope this doesn't come across as rude or anything! I just wanted to pick your brain and understand a bit more. Thanks for reading my long comment ^_^

[@AngryShuckie]

Yeah, the video mixes the two versions, and in the comics Raven acts more like Trigon's general when she goes evil. I don't recall the cartoon giving that much detail about her back-story, probably because it's too dark to put in a kids show. For a bit of comics background: "The End" episodes are a very good adaptation of the Terror of Trigon arc in the comics (issues 1-5 in The New Teen Titans volume 2, from way back in 1984). They are worth a read if you are able to, though they hit hardest after seeing Raven's metal health deteriorate over the whole of volume 1. Imagine instances like the "Nevermore" episode where she loses control and accidentally hurt Dr Light, happening with increasing frequency, coupled with her increasing isolation like in the "Spellbound" episode... only without a talking book to help her through depression and loneliness. Needless to say the cartoon skipped over a lot of the trauma Trigon put her through!

[@TheGoddamnBacon]

Is it just me, or does Trigon look like a distant relative of Ozai?

[@ricardonb6375]

Raziel and Alucard would like to join the club

[@MotherShip2618]

The series was getting deep and serious…. I miss it

[@grandcanyon-d4d]

Funny how current Raven would enslave him if she wanted to even without a power up

[@ZaireErnest]

I prefer the original teen titans

[@the1magageneral323]

The question I've always asked is whether or not Raven was a,machine built by her father or kidnapped and abused by him?.

[@AngryShuckie]

She is his biological child, so neither. The TV show didn't go much into her demonic side, probably because it would be too dark for a kids' show, but she is nevertheless a half-demon. Similarly the trauma he puts her through is toned down a lot in the show, and it doesn't take much for her to give in and act as the portal for him to Earth. In the comics that process was slow and horrifying, so he definitely counts as abusing her.

[@necomiller5892]

And through willpower, wisdom, faith within, and ultimately her close friends Raven was able to defeat Trigon and surpassed him in maturity being a human being, and found where she belongs with The Titans😁😌🩶✨💫💥