The Dark Origins Of Beast Boy X Terra

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[@pyeitme508]

Boo

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

Beast Boy x Terra

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

Can you do Batman and Catwoman?

[@josephbrainard441]

Thanks for letting us know ahead of time >:/

[@ThiccFurryBoi34]

How could you

[@francostevo9939]

As a teenager it really pisses me off how people assume and sugar coat a scenario that happens between people. For example, Terra returning to the titans. Raven is giving Terra a hard time and people just assume at face value that Raven is just jealous. 🙄 . Raven is someone who must constantly every single day must keep her powers in control because slightest emotion can release god knows what. It is no surprise that Raven doesn’t trust Terra’s claim that she can suddenly control of her powers. Raven is skeptical about that as she wants powers to be controlled at all times to ensure her friends are unharmed.

[@philly_sports1558]

People really thought she was mad at her because she was jealous over Beast Boy? That’s dumb. Anyone could clearly tell that she was just skeptical because she wants to protect the only real family she has.

[@Lionfire42]

It also adds fuel to the fire of their fight. Because Raven, having that everyday struggle, has these people who see this and have accepted it and love her nonetheless and to have this person come in, lie and endanger her friends-it must have been infuriating to see a gift that precious to her be squandered.

[@brettwood1351]

And there's a huge element of irony there. Terra fears not being able to control her powers, but it's likely every Titan other than Robin had to work to control theirs. And Raven is the one who's got to work the hardest to control her emotions, and has the most destructive powers. If Terra hadn't run off, Raven would have been the Titan most able to understand, and probably help, Terra.

[@asefbodlox1859]

​@philly_sports no she isn't jealous because she hangs out with Beast Boy. She's jealous because Terra was able to control her power in a short time while Raven still couldn't. Which is why she's kinda grumpy at her in "Titan Rising" episode

[@ewanrogers270]

To answer your question at a point Raven is jealous because if you remember the mud fight between the two and in there Terra teased Raven over as "Everyone liked me better than you" typically exploiting her own weakness of being rejected as Terra, Raven is also afraid of rejection. Raven may say that she loves to be alone but she's afraid of being alone as well.

[@Magicghost23]

So that’s why Slade was never invited to the legion of doom They’re evil, but they have standards.

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

Right. Slade is Rated R.

[@Gravesyte]

That's why he is on the round table of black force energy

[@SilasSeiler]

I can imagine the discussion about Slade joining their group "I mean we're evil, but we're not that evil"

[@TheSpectator7]

Joker: "Even I wouldn't stoop to that kind of impropriety!..."

[@kaykay8855]

@@TheSpectator7remember the killing joke where he SA Barbara Gordon

[@mori_nobel]

Even as a kid, I knew Terra was a victim. Maybe not the exact words but I could always see how unsure and scared she was and I was constantly root for her to switch to the Titans. The last episode she appeared in broke my heart and brain.

[@OmnicidalClown1992]

It's a real pity that there wasn't a lot of focus on Terra's development. Coming from a person who never liked Terra in Teen Titans, I do wish that there were more character focused episodes on her. Like, her origins, Terra joining Slade, Terra struggling to choose to betray the Titans or Slade, and see her going down the downward spiral until she fully embraced the idea of being Slade's apprentice. It also doesn't help that Terra only had about 5 episodes, (not including any cameos or references), before she was encased in stone, and then appearing one last time in the series finale. And not only that, but there were moments where Terra was absent for several episodes. The episode focusing on the Master of Games especially makes absolutely no sense why Terra was absent. At the end of the previous episode, Terra had officially joined the Titans and the members of the team had welcomed her with opened arms. Next episode, Terra is completely absent, save for a cameo at the very end. And they never explained why she wasn't with the Titans when they were playing that card game. Next episode, Terra betrays the Titans. Terra remains absent in a few episodes, and then returns in the 2-Parter Season 2 Finale. Terra then is turned to stone and then is never seen again until the Series Finale. What they should've done with Terra was have a few episodes focusing on her, showing her interacting with the Titans, getting to know them, and several scenes where she's doing something.... At several points, we see Terra on her computer. At this point, we don't know what Terra's doing. But we do later find out that it's an e-mail that supposed to be sent to Slade. But before she eventually betrays the Titans, Terra is shown to be hesitate, as she doesn't want to betray her friends, but at the same time doesn't want to disappoint her master. At some point, one of the Titans, let's say Beast Boy, sees Terra on her computer. He doesn't see what Terra's doing, but notices that Terra looks upset. Eventually, Beast Boy manages to muster up some courage to ask what's wrong with Terra. Terra of course, would be startled and panic, saying things like what's Beast Boy is doing in her room and that she isn't doing anything. Eventually, she would calm down and tell what she was doing, though leaving out the whole Slade bit. She would tell Beast Boy that she been writing an e-mail for some time to, let's say, her brother, but doesn't know if she should send it or not. Of course, Beast Boy would ask questions like "You have a brother," and "Why haven't you contacted with him after all these years?" Too which, Terra would reply that she hasn't seen him in years, they had a falling out the last time she saw him and she's afraid that she would be ignored or something worst. Beast Boy would comfort her, saying that he doesn't know what her brother is like, but if he were Terra's brother, he would be missing you, and that he's probably doing the same thing she's doing right now, wanting to contact Terra, but is afraid on what Terra might say. He would also say something along the lines of Terra needing to follow her heart and the answer will become clear. Terra thanks Beast Boy, hugs him, and Beast Boy, in a state of fluster, tries to leave Terra's room without freaking out in a lovestruck manner. The episode would end with Terra looking at the E-Mail, with the mouse on the Send Button, though we don't see her pushing the button, creating a state of ambiguity on whether or not she sent the mail. A few episodes later, Terra and the rest of the Titans would do their duties protecting Jump City. But behind the scenes, Slade is making his move. He secretly places various traps to make it look like Terra is losing control over her powers. What more is when that happens, Terra would find herself blacking out. The Titans would see the damage that "Terra" has caused, but not the events that happened beforehand, and the trust that Terra has been building up towards the Titans began to fall apart. Eventually, Terra, while being able to defeat the monster that's actually been causing the problem, did cause a lot of damage across the city. During a meeting, where Robin, Starfire, Beast Boy, Raven and Cyborg are meeting each other in secret. they basically start to discuss that Terra is starting to lose control over her powers, but during a certain point, Terra accidentally overhears a part that suggests that the Titans might kick her off the team. In a panicked state, Terra would run back into her room, crying that, even after all this time as a member of the Teen Titans, Terra is back to square one. What's more is that Terra is entering into a state of panic, believing that she'll never be trusted by the Titans again. She goes to her computer, writes something down, and then clicks the Send Button to, what we think, her brother. Of course, it's actually Slade that's being sent the e-mail, but at this point, we aren't supposed to know. And then the next episode happens. The message has been sent. Terra goes on a date with Beast Boy. Titans' Tower gets invaded by Slade's forces. Slade appears during Terra and Beast Boy's date. Reveals to Beast Boy that Terra is both a spy and his new apprentice. Beast Boy rejects Terra, and Terra, with nowhere else to turn, heads towards Slade.

[@kubat4925]

While your idea of the first episode is great, the other one is not so much, or at least it doesn't speak to me. The scenarios are good though and they do flesh her out a bit more, so nice job

[@xavierjohnson2321]

The alternate name for this arc should be the Miscommunication Arc. Beause boy, could Beast Boy have told her that he never said anything, Robin used to work for Batman and used context clues that she had trouble controlling her powers, and Slade is/was not to be trusted there at the fair. Yes, it would've been in anger, but it at least the gravity of the situation would be setting in at least.

[@fightingmedialounge519]

He did try to tell her.

[@jessicawilliams3849]

She doesn’t even need to know Robin is a detective. They all have powers - it would be fairly easy for them to tell she can’t control them.

[@seanr.6498]

Terra was too insecure to believe that Beast Boy didn't blab. It wouldn't have plated out any other way.

[@seanchukwuezi3079]

Ashley Johnson killed it the way she transformed from gretchen from recess to terra she is underrated

[@mckenzie.latham91]

She was also the voice of the main female character in the first season of Infinity Train

[@Tsochar]

>You know Terra and Slade are banging in the comics, right? Who the fuck starts a conversation like that? I just sat down!

[@sashawolfson3602]

I tried to keep that memory in the back of the head, cause I don't wanna remember that! Why he gotta do that to us!? 😭😭😭

[@zoeynot1013]

With raven being upset and lashing out in that fight, it could be argued as an empath, she felt all the hurt the titans felt, the betrayal, the anger, everything. Shes not the one with the most stakes with terra (though she was also betrayed and terra tried to kill her friends). So when shes going off on tera it isn't just her, its all of the Titans feelings. That doesn't excuse anything as it wasn't in the show and is a theory explanation. Just some food for thought

[@delphoxhoopa7289]

HOO BOY. I could make a whole essay on Terra as a character, but you can't deny her voice actress is fantastic! 🥰

[@frankinglese7100]

Also the voice of Tulip & MT from “Infinity Train”.😁

[@delphoxhoopa7289]

@@frankinglese7100.... I love and hate that you used that specific role because I really want an Amelia season! 😭

[@andiman44]

Her voice actress (Ashley Johnson) also voices Ellie from The Last of Us.

[@delphoxhoopa7289]

@@andiman44 Who doesn't know that at this point? ☺️

[@PeterGriffin11]

@@delphoxhoopa7289 Me.

[@GamerSlyRatchet1]

I’m glad you were willing to talk about some of the flaws in the show’s approach to this arc when it’s mostly episodic. Something that bothered me even when it aired. I’d cut Beast Boy some slack, though. Him being cruel to Terra felt like a heat of the moment thing to do. By the time of the two-parter, he may have reflected on the situation and been more sympathetic than before.

[@Mormollio]

I agree with a lot you said on Terra, I really loved who whole arc in the show. I think her manipulation was clear, but I also don't really blame the Titans for the way some things went down, more specifically Beast Boy and Raven. Just like Terra is 14 and a child, they're kids too. I feel like its very easy to have the forgiveness and understanding approach as someone watching the show, knowing that Terra isn't actually like a cold-blooded killer..but at the end of the day she did set them up, she just chose not to be there. I think had she survived (excluding the final ep), there could have been room for a friendship and return to the Titans. But like the night of or even like a year after, who's going to forgive someone who let assassins into their house because they felt you broke a promise, lol.

[@danielferrieri7434]

Beast Boy's Girlfriends in a Nutshell Toph but in DC Goth Chick who keeps a Giant Bird in side her

[@valentinkambushev4968]

Except not being a chad like Toph.

[@mikhaelgribkov4117]

In DC comics Terra can have Brando as surname because she is just that evil and manipulative.

[@brettwood1351]

@@valentinkambushev4968 Actually Toph training Aang in Earthbending really drives home a difference. Because Toph drove home, you stand your ground and are resolute to be an Earthbender, and as this video points out, Terra runs.

[@thecatattheend2250]

This always bothered me too. That stupid misunderstanding. And how the entire time she's clearly been a victim, sometimes coerced, sometimes outright forced into working for Slade or her friends would die (ironic since that's his plan anyway). With nowhere to go and someone willing to take her in and train her, it was an obvious choice. And the premature cancellation of the series didn't help any or allow for further development.

[@MiracleUniverse-fg8wb]

This series made Slade more creepy

[@Mr.WestcottX]

For real.

[@nickwang5237]

Honestly, neither BB or Tara is right nor wrong in this situation. Tara is traumatized, controlled, she’s been too insecure for her whole life, so she’s easily manipulated by slade. While BB, acknowledging that fact that his friends are fighting for their and possibly dead (given the fact that BB didn’t know yet), he gets mad of what Tara has done, betraying, lying, all when he has given trust, friendship and even love. And when people are mad (especially teenagers), sad things could be done.

[@ericlammers3492]

I guess u can say that. The only true villain in this series is none other than….. SLADE!👿

[@i_will_not_elaborate]

I never hated her even when she "betrayed" them. As a kid I was so shocked as to why Beastboy turned his back on her saying she didn't have any friends; I remember yelling at the TV, "She's clearly being controlled by Slade! Help her!" But in fairness, I thought it was going to lead to a mind-control trope kinda like how Robin was manipulated by Slade. I always thought her stammering with her words was her trying to tell BB that she was being mind controlled or something. As an adult, I can see she's the product of grooming and brainwashing but most kids wouldn't be able to comprehend something like that. Still though, I absolutely hated how fans reacted to her, saying that she was a b¡tch who got what she deserved and just turned her into a villain. Teen Titans GO! didn't help matters by making her a villain/BB's abusive ex-girlfriend all the way. It's the Scrappy Doo situation all over again. 😒

[@ericlammers3492]

U said it pal

[@zerozeroren]

Never seen any of this show before. My artist brain is completely mesmerised by how Terra's hair moves

[@moondoria8401]

26:00 I have a theory how she is back. In season 4, Trigon turns all of the people to stone, and after he is defeated, they were turned back to normal. There is a chance the same happened to Terra even though she was already stone to begin with.

[@why-oh-why]

Slade is a predator through and though (vicims include: Robin, Terra, and Raven)

[@starrsmith3810]

Slade creeped me out when I was a kid and had no idea about the Judas Contract lmao. The guy literally stalked Robin for another season and that entire damn Raven scene. (And oh god why you gotta remind me about them having Bruce and Hal do that!!!!!)

[@mannysmith5397]

I wouldn't call it victim blaming. She had all that time even before the Ferris wheel incident to tell Beast Boy what was happening. She chose to run. And now she's screwed. Can't feel sympathy that she got what she got. She did do that to herself.

[@DrBoyZepho]

literally there was no reason for her to initially betray them

[@Peasham]

Can't vouch for the comics, but I gotta say my tank was running on empty when it came to empathizing with her in the show at a certain point

[@PichuElric]

Me and my brother used to be so scared of Slade when Teen Titans was airing and we could never tell WHY he scared us more than villains who have actually killed or can kill others. It was because children can feel this kinda vibe from the start, the predator vibes were AWFUL and it was great writing. Another character from a cartoon network show who gives off MAJOR predator vibes on purpose is Forever Knight from the Ben10 (2016) reboot. The cartoon itself wasn't as dark because there are more laws regarding what can be showed in a PG 13 cartoon but I think it does the trick REALLY well.

[@AxleBoost]

I think the reason there's no connecting thread for BB's emotional whiplash is most likely that they plotted out an extra episode or two, but those were scrapped and didn't make it from writer's room to screen because they were forced to commit to this episodic format. Tbh if that is the case, it was probably a poor decision and they ought to have respected the young audience's intelligence more.

[@francostevo9939]

Beast Boy never lied to Terra. Robin figured it out as evident when he noticed at the beginning of Terra’s debut episode which shouldn’t be surprise since he had been trained by the goddamn Batman.

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

Slade was EDP445 before there was a EDP445.

[@floricel_112]

5:50 and also that she's probably been out on the streets for so long that she's had to make do and survive with *anything* she could get her hands on. Food is food, no matter its shape or recipe

[@francostevo9939]

19:38. Yrs have passed and that still hurt me. Especially considering that Beast Boy isn’t usually the serious character.

[@bombomos]

Victim or not, Beast Boy deserved WAAAAAAAY better than Terra. Even when she wasnt betraying the team she was a bitch. I dont feel sorry for her one bit. I feel sorry for Beast Boy

[@KingNexusMOCs]

Terra was a victim... For like 2 seconds. She made her own choices. She wasn't innocent.

[@nevvawinter7331]

I was about to say, “It would be interesting if Slade had a personality like Terrence Fletcher from Whiplash when he deceived Terra”… but then I remembered Brother Blood and how he treated HIVE Academy students.

[@ovskii96]

I remember watching "Betrayal" as a kid and actually being sad about it the next day. This whole arc really messed me up.

[@geraldcartwright2010]

5:09 NOPE! RAVEN SAID IT FIRST - CHECK THE FLASHBACK EPISODE! BBxRAE ALL THE WAY!!!!!!

[@305Independent]

The craziest part of this is if Slade hadn't been so rough on Terra after she had to flee from the Titans she wouldn't have turned on him and he probably would've won.

[@soranora4597]

The scene where Beast boy calls Terra out to me felt like that was an illusion made by Slade to get her to come to his side. It felt out of character with all the time we watched them spend together.

[@cedricjones7560]

You should do a separate video covering Terra’s arc in the episode “Things Change.”

[@marcobertoni7566]

I tought this video would be about how they changed the original Judas Contract and rewrote her character from the ground up, not just the 3 episodes she's in.

[@treymykel]

Whoa nothing was made up about beastboy and Raven they have more cannons than Terra and Beast Boy and honestly Tara really didn't even like Beast Boy. So if anybody relationship is more make believe it was really terra and beast boys don't insult Raven and beastboy relationship. And honestly the 2003 Tara isn't really a good tara it's just a lesser version of the character so people can't really see how terrible the person she was so it's really not the best person to honestly it's better than the Young Justice first definitely but the jeedai is contract showed how terrible of a person Tara is and not something that they need to stop shying away from. You know what we're not about to do he's trying to make it seem like these boys in the wrong for his anger know she took him out why his friends were being attacked without him knowing. Making it look like he just abandon the Titans. Like I get it I really do but she came back into their lives to purposely betrayed them Beast Boy has every right to be upset at her even push her away because what she did was terrible knowing that's late is a bad guy there's no excuse for her you know that's the thing that was always undercook is that everybody always want to try to feel sorry for her at yes she did some stuff she had a bad childhood or whatever but she purposely maturely enough new slave was a bad person he would kill people and he fought the Titans numerous of times she purposely went to him follow him and then help him take on the Titans so no we're not going to do this I don't like when people try to victimize Tara as if she can't think of her on her own that is the whole purpose of the character. that's the whole point of the character that she made bad decisions on her own and there are consequences for those are her consequences is not anybody else's fault.

[@DrBoyZepho]

literally , I was so confused when he said that

[@treymykel]

@@DrBoyZepho right like wtf you talking about did you ever read the books or understand the history of these characters

[@mattbily1900]

I love your take on terra"s character arc!

[@terrafletcher1930]

Yeah, Terra was my favorite Teen Titan arc that wasn't really finished sadly

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

Beast Boy in Teen Titans Go is a 24/7 Simp for Terra.

[@valentinkambushev4968]

Every male member of the Titans is a simp in TTG.

[@Bate.v19]

24:52 I'm pretty sure the moment she attacked them he revealed that he has control over her, and that's why she could've summoned sentient rock people

[@harriyanna]

i gotta know your opinion on kid flash and jinx now lmaooooooooo

[@shawmiserix404]

damn slade is a canonical child predator

[@mrkaji8913]

19:47 he never did that in the comics, nor he would, and his feelings keep going back-and-forth

[@connornoiles2447]

I always felt like Beast Boy regretted what he said, that's why he was back to being nice to her

[@joseurbina3835]

The Ship between Beast Boy and Terra love Relationship was a huge capital "T" Which stands for completely "Tragic."

[@Lilly_the_Snek]

Dang i would've really liked to hear more about the comic versions of these characters, and how different they are. Teen titans is the only DC media I ever got into.

[@Nameless_mixes]

Raven Vs Terra is one of the most iconic fights in cartoon/animated history! 🙌

[@stevensampson5823]

I thought about a crossover of Teen Titans with Spectacular Spider-man, where Beast boy loses Terra again, being killed in the hands of the Green Goblin.

[@javierricardinhosidon8766]

Wheres the total drama vid Sarcastic, Pt9

[@javierricardinhosidon8766]

part 10 actually

[@DrJay-iy8rv]

Lol

[@ZRtheHedgehog77]

Robin = Red Starfire = Orange Tarra = Yellow Beast Boy = Green Cyborg = Blue Raven = Purple

[@mrkaji8913]

1:22 animated New, 52 Tara is better

[@crypticblade9435]

I thought his profile picture was a sarcastic version of spongebob until I looked closer

[@victorvirolva8555]

Love the slight tfs reference with Hal

[@mrkaji8913]

11:53 what’s even worse, however is that its not what happened in the original storyline?

[@capismycopilot9393]

A show wanting to do something more/deeper but getting pushback from up top to keep with wacky hijinks sounds painfully familiar

[@Zekrel]

How did I miss this video?! I watched your Robin X Starfire and BB X Raven videos but somehow missed this? How?!

[@hunterdramora]

the hellsing abridged reference caught me so off guard

[@sebastiansuazo2734]

24:22 now you're gonna know why they call me Dick Grayson 😈 I'm sorry, couldn't resist

[@4569packers]

That TFS Trunks scream. Always a classic

[@mrkaji8913]

12:48 forgot to mention her redemption here

[@politicalmemes1296]

it was so nice revisiting this show

[@googamp32]

Unpopular opinion: Slade is boring, and Terra is terribly unsympathetic. I agree with you that Slade's a creep, though.

[@kyuubifox33]

I’ll never understand the issue with Barbara and Bruce lol

[@dr0g_Oakblood]

0:31 - I will die on the hill that the reason Bruce Timm has this obsession with Batman/Batgirl ship is that he is projecting himself onto Bruce Wayne because of the shared name, so he can pretend that Barbara is flirting with him personally and thus made his fetish our problem.

[@gabriellawrence1255]

I always really, really hated how Terra Character was made on teen titans. Why couldn't she just stay with the Titans?! Instead betraying them for the most pettiest reason. It made no sense to me.

[@Bate.v19]

The worst part about this is the fact that terra wasn't gifted with her powers, she was a princess who was experimented on (along with her brother), and shes been on the run for at least a year. So who knows what she's been exposed to as a 14 year old before finding the titan

[@Gamerguy-ud1zo]

I would like a video discussing the ships from avatar the last air bender and how a some couples were done a bit dirty in the spin off material.

[@OurKindofEntertainment]

Even though it was never confirmed in the series, I figured that Terra got restored after 'White Raven' used her powers to restore the planet after Trigon turned everyone to stone. Considering that Terra was already petrified, I'm willing to wager that Raven unknowingly brought her back. In the finale, she mentioned that she looked into all of the magic that she could. However, she never found the spell to restore her.

[@JozsefPocsi]

Yo, that is a good theory.

[@BLZ231]

Yeah, that’s always been my theory.

[@Bridget466]

Head cannon accepted! Best answer I’ve heard of and I’d take anything at this point.

[@mwills9161]

I never even thought about that to be honest but it does make sense and it is a possibility.

[@AnonymousEnigma19]

That's what I thought when I first saw the episode.

[@yamataichul]

I'm glad they wrote the story with respect for kids. Children aren't guilable and this show had writers who knew this well. Teen Titans might be not ideal nowdays but it was perfect for it's time

[@bombomos]

Teen titans would be very appreciated today. Way better than any kids show now

[@Bezaliel13]

@@bombomos Well, now that The Owl House has ended.

[@brettwood1351]

@@Bezaliel13 Note that in that one they try to get the misunderstandings resolved quickly.

[@Bezaliel13]

@@brettwood1351 ...? K...

[@Bezaliel13]

@PedroOrtega1993 You are entitled to your opinion, but I think The Owl House was a masterpiece *myself.* On a related note, always seemed rather dumb how Netflix has years between new episodes because of it releasing by season.

[@A_Hylian_Not_An_Elf]

The only thing I didn’t like was how little it felt the betrayal mattered. The only episodes where Terra was in it were episodes that were about her. I just wish they could have introduced her early on and let the story develop over the next few seasons.

[@QueenMelody16]

Wouldn't even have to be seasons, just 1-3 episodes where she's part of the team and the action.

[@Thomperfan]

@@QueenMelody16 Andrias, Leif, and Barrel were better at showcasing their kinship. And they only had half of one singular episode.

[@fightingmedialounge519]

Couldn't really given the development of the show.

[@Justme-rt4gj]

@@fightingmedialounge519 What do you mean?

[@fightingmedialounge519]

@@Justme-rt4gj I mean they were only given a certain number of episodes per season, and had to make each seasons story selft contained with very little carry over.

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

Technically, Beast Boy never lied to Terra. The Titans found out Terra needed help controlling her powers.

[@kaykay8855]

I mean it was obvious

[@thebigidea9659]

​@@kaykay8855 not to Terra apparently 😂

[@ThisUserDoesNotExist69]

It literally said that at the end of the episode💀

[@rebornjm]

terra was insecure she wanted to believe that BB would lie, she was responsible for her actions, i dont like how in this video he is trying to give terra an excuse for her actions.

[@leebulger7112]

@@rebornjm I wish the show gave us more time with Terra before her betrayal.

[@philly_sports1558]

It’s wild how they were able to imply that Slade was a twisted pervert on a Cartoon Network show. On top of his intimidating presence and menacing voice, the fact that he liked them young made him an even scarier villain.

[@brettwood1351]

I remember a lot of fics of Batman tracking him down and kicking his ass for messing with his son.

[@ikathiibean]

@@brettwood1351Really? That’s something like Batman would do though

[@ahmadewing5287]

He wasn't a pervert in the show the comics though yes

[@philly_sports1558]

@@ahmadewing5287 Idk he made a suit that gave him control over a teenage girl’s body and he ripped off the clothes of another teenage girl to deliver a message when he absolutely didn’t need to do that. He seemed like a creep in the show to me.

[@ahmadewing5287]

@@philly_sports1558 he used terra for her Powers. Raven clothes got ripped from his fire.

[@justinsinger2505]

I was way to young to witness the whole Terra storyline. That drove me to tears the age of 6. I still rewatch her arc every once in awhile and I still feel the pain

[@justinsinger2505]

Doesn’t help that I’ve grown to relive a similar situation of loving someone who let their trauma control their life

[@ericlammers3492]

Honestly people who think the worst of Terra and that she is a bad person is just shallow. She was just misguided and thought she knew what she was doing.

[@chillinswaggsister9585]

Same

[@MacyPooh196]

The stuff that happened with Terra was so intense for me as a kid. It was probably the first time I had experienced story telling like this and I didn’t know what to do with it.

[@pedromoutadepinho7145]

Agreed,i wasn't ready for that kind of trauma.

[@chillinswaggsister9585]

Same here I was so sad

[@KeeKage37]

Kinda have to side with BB on this one. Putting aside how manipulative Slade is. The titans told her Slade was bad. They gave her a place to stay, food, water, and all out of the kindness of there hearts. And yet she decided to not give her new friends any benefit of the doubt. And switched sides, for the known bad man. Then doesn’t even try to warn them and aided Slade in an assassination attempt. Saying you’ll still be friends no matter what is one thing. But expecting it after she sold out you’re friends and family, nearly getting them killed is a little much to ask. BB had every right to be absolutely furious at her. Because in his eyes she’s been playing him for a sucker. It seems pretty obvious that he was both hot and heartbroken at the moment. Perhaps after cooling off being willing to try and give her a second chance after coming back.

[@kubat4925]

Considering Slade's dialogue with Terra, in spite of her backstory only being implied in the actual show, we can actually deduce that Titans are not actually the first ones to open their hearts to Terra and give her a home, but because of her lack of control, it would always go south. She's already used to people rejecting her, she's already used to running away from the consequences of her actions, and she's already used to having no attachments. I don't think it really is the first time for Terra to supposedly find herself a family, only for the said family to not understand why she lacks control and would indeed turn their backs on a stranger they merely adopted or Terra would just vanish never to be seen out of guilt, something she did in that cave too. However Terra does want to solve the issue of her powers, and Slade gives her the opportunity on a silver platter along with an understanding of her situation, something she probably hasn't received before. Keep in mind that Terra didn't really know Titans that well (aside from their names and powers, hence she was surprised to learn that Raven also struggles just like her to control her powers) and she had no idea what kind of person Slade truly is (all she knows is that supposedly he's "very bad", but what does that even mean?). She did acknowledge Titans giving her home though and actually warning her about Slade, but she still had very little to work with and Slade being the child predator and excellent manipulator he is, played her like a fiddle. It's not until Aftershock pt. 2 that he actually lets go of his facade and showed his true colors to Terra, at first he probably started off lightly, as the video says, only to take more and more advantage of Terra and her getting so deep in this, she couldn't deny any request from him without blowing up in her face. Not to say Beast Boy did anything wrong. From a narrative point of view, yes, it was not the best move, but it's not like he knows what's about to happen next, how it will exactly affect her and at that moment he barely knew whether or not the rest of his family was alive after she backstabbed them.

[@colbystearns5066]

It seems like Terra trapped herself between a rock (no pun intended) and a hard place in regards to the actual betrayal. If she defies Slade's orders he could go after her and punish her severely when she's too weak to stand up for herself and fight back, if she warns the Titans of what's about to happen they may be like "wait, you did what?!" and kick her out of the team anyway, fueling her insecurities about how people don't understand where she's coming from and are quick to reject her. Either choice would have pretty major ramifications and it seems like she didn't want to face up to the consequences of either option which is why she ran off with Beast Boy, basically trying to find an easier third way where she could avoid getting in trouble but would only delay the inevitable of her previous bad decisions coming back to slap her in the face.

[@kubat4925]

@@colbystearns5066 Precisely that. She went too deep with all of this so it was too late to back away from it.

[@beck3149]

This is kinda how I felt too. Less in the she should be grateful for some human decency. But I’m the sense she blew up at the Titans because “BeastBoy told them her secret “ (he didn’t), and after she ACTUALLY did something unforgivable she’s mad at BeastBoy for not immediately forgiving it. She’s definitely still a victim, and was manipulated. I just wish she realized that the team COULD forgive her… just not 20 seconds after finding out she betrayed them

[@kubat4925]

@@beck3149 Mind if you read my comment in this section pls

[@EditDeath]

What I always found funny is that, because Terra was there so briefly, the lack of interactions between her and Raven wound up feeding into the BBRae ship. After all, from a shipping perspective, if Raven was willing to go off on Terra so completely after the betrayal when she's not the one most harmed by it, obviously she's going off on Beast Boy's behalf. As one ship falls, another rises, because in shipping being single in the endgame isn't an option, and every choice by the writers is "evidence"

[@Lionfire42]

This. I also watched the show out of order, so the Terra arc was one that I had to kind of piece together retroactively. So to me, already shipping BBxRae from what I saw throughout the series and then to see Raven two steps to the left of being ready to MURDER this girl over her betrayal (which again, given the piecemeal nature of my viewing and the fact that while "the Titans" are the victims, we're really supposed to emphasize more with BB and his turmoil over his crush/ex), my mind saw this as premium grade shipping fuel.

[@AnonymousEnigma19]

When will you guys learned that throughout the series it was made obvious that Raven had a small crush on Robin.

[@EditDeath]

@@AnonymousEnigma19 Didn't really pick up on that, but to each shipper their own. And hey, the folks who wrote the Damian Wayne movies seem to agree with you, so that's something.

[@AnonymousEnigma19]

@@EditDeath sorry but I'm no shipper, I just remember that in some stories focus on her that there would be the small hints that she has a crush on him, and don't bring up that whole Damien thing, don't like the character because you give the Batman a son but never let him get married plus the kid acts like his pure opposite, and that little subplot completely the tracks the whole Batman loving his son plot, making it less special.

[@EditDeath]

@@AnonymousEnigma19 Okay, sorry to touch a nerve there. As for me, guess you can call me an ex-shipper. The BBRae ship appealed to me back then, but I'm over it. What hints are we talking about? Aside from Robin being the one to help Raven best her father as a possible one, I don't recall picking up on it

[@tytheaniman497]

What Slade did Terra mentally and physically was seriously fucked up. And when she thought Beast Boy broke his promise just because Robin made a guess always pissed me off because she could’ve been so much happier with them. Especially Beast Boy. And I felt so bad for him when he felt betrayed by her in the date episode. Slade literally blocked Gar as he was finally about to kiss her WTF! Anyway, the bottom line is Terra is a seriously tragic character in the show and her death cut Garfield the deepest.

[@ericlammers3492]

If only this series had a sequel. At least better than that TTG dog shit series.

[@aptalsandvic5355]

I disagree that bb did anything wrong. Terra hurt him and his dearest friends and he doesen't have to keep being friends with her after that. From his perspective she manipulated him and the titans to serve Slade. He is naturally looking back at the moments she was friendly and questioning it. She keeps acting like it was their fault when they were nothing but kind and friendly to her. He probably cooled off and decided that he overrected and that's why he defended her later.

[@dcdrizzz3041]

That's true the natural reaction he had was fully justified. But, as a far as story and pacing is concerned that's the type of information you want to show the audience. That type of context is necessary to properly understanding character motivations and scenes.

[@theflaminglitten-fo6jd]

that's definitely what happened but they need to show that instead of forcing the audience to infer that on our own

[@fightingmedialounge519]

​@@theflaminglitten-fo6jd I mean the end of the episode where she betrayed them says and shows just that.

[@AnonymousEnigma19]

Given the end of the episode shows Beast Boy transforms into a green dog curled up on Tara's bed with her mirror heart present and whimpering shows that he did regret his actions.

[@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722]

@@AnonymousEnigma19 Maybe he was ready to die as a way to right this wrong. That said, one concequence of what he caused being Starfire almost abandoning all shred of compassion kinda threw me off guard. It's almost as if BB indirectly almost created another Blackfire

[@jubileebaby0]

What do you think of the finale, "Things Change?" Honestly it just really made me sad. I just wanted to see Terra and Beast Boy together since Beast Boy loved her and Terra used to and may still have feelings for her. Last time she was in the series, she sacrificed herself and turned into stone, which was not exactly a happy ending for her. This final episode allowed Terra to become a new person and leave her troubled life in the past, nothing about her is "set in stone" anymore. Some said that this final episode completed Terra's character, and thus, the series ends. Note: The show ended abruptly and the movie was released later that year, supposedly serving as the series finale.

[@valentinkambushev4968]

Honestly, I think Terra deserves a new life, away from the superhero world. Being a superhero, especially in DC, is awful, so the further she stays away from the Titans and their world- the better.

[@xxac3zn8zxx87]

I've heard before that the finale episode with Terra saying goodbye to Beast Boy wasn't supposed to be the actual finale but they just abruptly ended it I've never heard why though

[@alchemistofsteel8099]

@@xxac3zn8zxx87 It is the supposed to be the finale. The whole point of the episode is to show the loss innocence that comes when your a teenager. The voice of cyborg said it in a interview Also the whole last episode is a metaphor for graduating high school

[@Confederate-hj2dc]

Think that the girl BB met was not the real Terra, but a girl who just looked a lot like her. BB, being heartbroken over Terra’s death, subconsciously pursued this girl because of what she reminded him of.

[@maeellis7523]

@@valentinkambushev4968 TRUE. Let her have a normal life cause she isn’t that stable enough to deal with the Superhero Life.

[@glitch--gamer]

Terra's betrayal was more than trying to kill the Teen Titans. There's one quote from Raven that always stuck with me even years later: "The problem is Terra gave Slade more than secret codes and hidden cameras. She gave him "us". Our flaws, our weaknesses, everything he'd ever need to know." I think the betrayal was all the more unforgivable to the Teen Titans and the audience because Terra gained their trust and exposed their vulnerabilities to the main villain (seriously, who the hell trusts the obviously evil guy with a skeleton looking mask). Also, she seemed to take glee in exploiting their weaknesses, especially Raven. It kind of felt like she only felt regret once she realized she was hopelessly outclassed power wise.

[@braydenshetrompf8764]

Raven outclassed power wise? The weakest versions of raven, in her blue form, can end terra instantly, let alone her demon form. Although when she used her demon form against dr. Light, she just gained tentacles, and terra she just lost her cool and started throwing stuff at her. But as shown in nevermore, her demon form is the equivalent of trigon, and even in never more her demon form was nerfed, horribly. Her blue form can destroy terra instantly, even the weakest versions of raven, her demon form, even again the weakest versions of raven, can destroy terra instantly.

[@glitch--gamer]

@@braydenshetrompf8764 I was referring to Terra, not Raven. I meant that in the final episode Terra only felt regret once she realized she was outclassed by the Teen Titans powerwise.

[@braydenshetrompf8764]

@@glitch--gamer oh myb I read it wromg

[@Optimegatrongodzilla]

​@@glitch--gamer To be fair, Terra was a vulnerable teenager who couldn't control her powers and thought that Beast Boy betrayed her when Robin had actually just figured out her secret on his own, and then, Slade exploited this and made her believe that she could trust him. Then, when BB found out about her betrayal after she had reconnected with him, he told her that she didn't have any friends. Now, we know that he merely said that in anger, but she didn't and that re-solidified Slade's hold over her.

[@casualfanatic4217]

I saw Terra being gleefully evil as her putting on an act. Like she does feel guilty but has no choice but to obey Slade so she puts this evil facade to fool everyone including herself. But it was still jarring having her go from being conflicted to “what you did wrong was being born”

[@thebigidea9659]

Even if BB hadnt blown up on Terra and came back wtih her to help the titans I highly doubt they would have let her stay.They took her in, fed her,let her bathe, were willing to train her and even gave her a place to sleep as well as allowing her to join them. She repaid them by potentially killing them all in their sleep.The titans would have tried to arrest her or just kicked her out and Slade would have scooped the former titan up immediately afterwards.

[@kap1618]

I view Terra's arc from Raven's perspective. From willing to give someone a chance to rightfully not trusting them after a misunderstanding, and then being betrayed in the worsr way possible. Considering how empathetic Raven is and how she views the Titans, Terra selling them out to Slade and then mocking her as being alone and friendless crossed the line for me. Its no wonder Raven snapped at her.

[@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722]

So Terra's insecurties almost caused indirectly the rebirth of Trigon the Terrible much earlier. Would love to see that what if imo to see if Terra sees reason earlier and lives

[@philly_sports1558]

Ashley Johnson is a phenomenal voice actress. Just throwing that out there. She’s been great in everything I’ve seen her in.

[@Z-fighter126]

It’s funny. Whatever show she appears, Greg Cipes is not too far off.

[@Warriorcats64]

@@Z-fighter126 Usually playing characters in love to boot. Characters that are utter dorks. In love.

[@PrincessEowynn]

Having never heard of Tara before watching this video and not knowing much about the Titans, her characterization does kinda just say “person with Borderline Personality Disorder”, from the way she immediately takes Robin learning about her lack of control as a betrayal of trust by BB and a reason to abandon the Titans altogether, to just the way Slade goads and manipulates her in that first episode. Like the idea that she thinks everyone will leave her once they discover what she’s really like and to the line “how can you lose something you never had in the first place” just sounds so much like stuff The Voices ™ would say to a pwBPD in moments of weakness. I know her actions can probably seem erratic and unprompted from the outside but I do feel like it makes sense if you view it this way.

[@PrincessEowynn]

@@user-pi3hd2bt3f that very well could be, there does tend to be a high rate of comorbidity between CPTSD and BPD, or at least a lot of people with BPD also have CPTSD.

[@darkflame728]

I think you're overthinking it, dude. She's an orphaned 14 year old with trauma, no understanding of friendship dynamics, and was being munipulated by a man who makes it his business to manipulate teenagers. Her acting the way she did is in character for someone with that much baggage.

[@minticat4702]

I was thinking the same thing!! :0

[@MichaelJW72]

@@darkflame728 Yep, when he tried to manipulate Robin it failed because Robin had the training from Batman, and the strong friendships of his fellow Titans. Terra had neither. She was a sitting duck for someone like Slade.

[@brandonlee934]

@@MichaelJW72 unfortunately this is true

[@malonee]

The way spade groomed that poor girl was just insane. As a kid you really feel for her but when you’re older and actually understand, it’s even worse

[@garretthooton6685]

Was Beast Boy's response the best to acheive the most positive outcome? No but I don't think you can definitively say it was the wrong response. It's altruistic to be forgiving and understanding in that situation but it is also perfectly justifiable to simply be thoroughly done with someone who betrayed you. Even given their tragic situation

[@cloudykid7278]

I actually thought that this ship was meant to be wholesome when I first saw the series

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

I kind of thought it would be Beast Boy x Raven.

[@all9472]

@@SpammytheHedgehog robin x raven had more when he whent to hell to safe her but in the last DC movie seires Damian Wayne and raven had a really good romances if anyone want to see the series of movies they finish a couple years ago (look up son of batman movie series and in which order there should be a list ending with JL apolypto really good seires of movies a bit mature with blood and stuff bit good writing)

[@alz397]

@@all9472 well that’s a different Robin lol but yeah, thought they were awesome. But just not my fav raven design. So I side with Beast boy X Raven for the teen titans series.

[@jonbrewer297]

Yeah, I'd read the comics, so I knew where it was going, but it was still surprising they went as far as they did. What have you done to her? Only given her what she needed. When you've read the comics and know all about the whole child molestation part of it, that line sets off a dozen different alarm bells.

[@Unversed333]

At first I thought it was going to bbrae, but like this narrator says in this video there is something about beast boy and terra's relationship that is so endearing.

[@pedanticat9479]

I'll be honest, I've always preferred BBTerra over BBRae. Not only did they have better chemistry and a more fun dynamic, but I like how Beast Boy didn't need to win over Terra since she found him charming from the start.

[@sashawolfson3602]

Glad I'm not the only one who thinks that.😊

[@brettwood1351]

@@sashawolfson3602 Kinda the same here. I do like BB Raven too, but BB Terra always felt more natural in how well they fit from the beginning.

[@sashawolfson3602]

@@brettwood1351 that's fair

[@terranova1203]

Me too

[@pedanticat9479]

@@brettwood1351Yeah, BBTerra just instantly clicked

[@whattaffy1426]

Maybe raven suggesting to the titans to give terra a second chance would make more sense since she too struggles with her powers. Of course, like beast boy, she’d need a reflection scene.

[@mckenzie.latham91]

The difference is that Raven never helped betray the rest of the team to their mortal enemy and almost got everyone killed as a result

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

It took me a long time to realize that Slade was really Deathstroke.

[@Spiral-Mark]

Same

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

So this all happened because Terra just misunderstood and had assumed that Beast Boy had told the Titans.

[@A_Hylian_Not_An_Elf]

Women ☕️

[@RokkTheRock]

@Link dont be a misogynist, bro.

[@RokkTheRock]

i saw another comment talking about how Terras seemenly strange behaviors make sense under the lense of her having Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD). shes obviously traumatized, anyone would be with what she went through, and because of her traumatic experiences and mental health she was easier to be manipulated by peices of shit like slade especially considering shes still a child ):

[@TheFictionalRealmofJamal1017]

​@@A_Hylian_Not_An_Elf cringe

[@fightingmedialounge519]

Sort of wyndell.

[@tricksfollies9549]

So I wasn’t the only one who thought Slade acted very creepily towards Raven during her season

[@mikhaelgribkov4117]

0:33 What also messed up is that creator of her literally introduce her love of Hal to not be returned and Hal acting like responsible adult. ONLY FOR NEXT WRITER MISSING THE MEMO.

[@brettwood1351]

Oh, that's Pymslap levels of miscommunication on the creatives there.

[@mikhaelgribkov4117]

@@brettwood1351 the Pymslap was funnily in character and at least fitted the breakdown Pym was having, that one just sucks and being creepy.

[@TupocalypseShakur]

I have a weird relationships comic book Terra. I love that she's unabashedly evil, which is rare for female vilains in comics, she came back as a zombie and the first thing she choses to do is to mentally torment Beast boy. I also relate to the shitty relationship she has with her dad. But then there's the stuff with Slade

[@nexyiak9698]

Honestly same, I do get the storyline they were trying to tell with the judas contract about how not everyone with powers is good and the titans were way too naive, but it could've been written way better and without her being groomed because theres just so much horrid implications with that.

[@anarchomando7707]

She honest to God with just meant to be a gimmick villain character. The cute but truly evil. The creators honestly didn't look into the implication till after the fact

[@ShadyRK9]

Wait! In the comics Slade did WHAT?! 😱

[@Underworlddream]

Haven't read it in a while but I recalled it was way worse. Like Slade taunt the Titan about how he wasn't even interested in her but how she so fuck up that she chooses to sleep with him herself. Like Slade is that twisted with his gas lighting and manipulation, that he basically did it as mean to a end.

[@OurKindofEntertainment]

I don't know... See Terra was IMO being somewhat Slade-like by manipulating Beast Boy by making him promise that no matter what as a friend that he'd accept her regardless of whatever bad things she's done. So, when the bomb got dropped that she lied to BB, snatched him away for a date to 'spare him' while the rest of his friends were left for dead...she could use that promise as leverage. It was nothing more than a setup to make herself feel better. Why? Because if BB didn't accept her as a friend after the truth was revealed, she'd put herself in the victim category because 'OMG BB BETRAYED ME!!!' so she has every right (in her mind) to continue doing the bad things that she's done based on her poor choices. Overall, she's just shifting the blame. Oh, I betrayed the Titans. However, BB betrayed me!!! See how ridiculous that is? Which makes BB's sermon to her about taking responsibility for her actions hit even harder.

[@TheCommenterDragon]

The ship between Terra and Beast Boy is another one of my favorites. But with how things turned out in the series I think it's a good thing that their relationship didn't really get too far.