Raw vs Nitro "Reliving The War": Episode 164 - December 14th 1998

[@synical_comics_stl]

A Thursday ain't a Thursday if it ain't Reliving the War. 🔥

[@marshallmcluhan33]

The best is when I forget and see the notification pop up.

[@ericathewwfwcwdivastraight8906]

Amen

[@marquan1976]

A Tradition unlike any other

[@robertdean3739]

Oh hell yeah

[@delvontejohnson3580]

I tap into reliving the war every Thursday like clockwork since day one imma be upset when it’s over

[@gray-fox-iii]

Took a direct hit from the Hurricane here in Florida, but glad to take a break from the clean-up to relive the war, and think about other things. To all my fellow Floridians hit and affected, love and prayers to all you Jam up guys and gals! We don't run, we rebuild! ❤❤❤

[@basquiatofconvos4655]

Kevin Nash inserting himself into the Bigelo v Goldberg match was one of those moments where I switched channels to watch whatever was going on on RAW. it could have been a good 3 commerical breaks but I wouldn't turn the channel back until Nitro was over

[@SirSongi]

What an amazing new intro. Gj mate

[@markgrichardson1]

Best part of Thursday- new relieving the war video released

[@explorewithefrain7305]

For everyone saying WB will not be able to review OTE 1999. Hello. There is Patreon!

[@cbuckets11]

I’m now convinced that the only thing that could have saved WCW was if they put the championship on Norman Smiley

[@chadlewis896]

Too legit to quit! Yes!!

[@Ragan31687]

39:10 It shouldn’t even have ended. Triple Threat Matches are No DQ. WTF

[@irighterotica]

The Rock broke the seal.

[@AllieRX]

The Rock making fun of other wrestlers' catchphrases on this night was legendary.

[@heisensaul5538]

When I was a kid I thought that was the funniest thing ever. Many years later re-watching this segment, I got a pretty good laugh out of Shawn Michael's reaction when Rock started to say Bret Hart's line lol

[@KnifeSotelo]

I love Wrestling Bio's unnecessary subplots that just makes the story even better 🤣

[@KegOfMeat]

You’re surely not referring to Steve Mufuggin Blackman right?

[@tylercox1875]

@@KegOfMeator glacier or disco inferno Alex wright Norman smiley and the cutaways every time the outlaws do their intro

[@matth2377]

Getting close to the legendary SCSA pop when he helps Mick beat Rock for the title on Raw.

[@press_x_tojason]

Going to be the same episode as a certain poke. We’ve got some big moments on the way on RTW in September.

[@MarsNova]

The debates about whether 1/4/99 was the moment WWE took the winning lead in the War should be good. There are different schools of thought about it.

[@The_Halfway_Channel]

I became a WWE fan from WCW once the Inferno match on Raw took place, which is somewhere around here.@@MarsNova

[@blackmantis3130]

And WCW promoted that moment. 😂😂

[@terrypayne8658]

I really did not expect a Norman smiley breakout but I’m here for it. Wcw needs everything they can get at this point

[@schizzo8959]

As someone who watched WcW as a kid, this hurts.

[@terrypayne8658]

@@schizzo8959 yeah I’m a fan of both products. In my head, wcw quality lasted a lot longer but it had a pretty steep decline over these last few months. Soon it will be entertaining for all the wrong reasons 😞

[@Hilversumborn]

Corporate Chinlock was clearly the best part of this week.

[@RyanCT89]

I’m dying at the lone wolf Disco Inferno coming out to save Hall and getting demolished.

[@ExtremeEgg80]

With each episode we're getting closer and closer to the Finger Poke of Doom, and Mankind putting butt's in seats.

[@MarsNova]

Ever closer. The comments section will be cookin’.

[@peerlearnin5600]

I came back to check where we were and if we got to that epic night.

[@makaveli4205]

Finger poke of doom was the beginning of the end for WCW

[@cuckertarlson3037]

​@@makaveli4205 yep, destroyed all the mystic around Goldberg, destroyed any credibility the world title had, and rehashed the same old, played out storyline that everyone was getting sick of.

[@countof3everybodyOD]

One of the biggest Austin pops ever

[@benespinosa6725]

LMFAO DX impersonating the Corporation was absolutely hilarious especially Jason Sensation as Shawn Michaels best part of The Rock saying using other wrestlers catchphrase was when he used Bret's Catchphrase Shawn's reaction was priceless awesome video this series is amazing to watch every Thursday.

[@Dr_1212]

It's going to be tough watching when you start looking at WCW in 1999 & 2000 🤦‍♂️

[@brettmajors69karaoke]

It still beats smack down and raw for the last 10 years

[@Dr_1212]

@@brettmajors69karaoke 😆👍

[@JoshuaSkaar]

The constant run-ins and DQ finishes are why I quit watching wrestling around this time.

[@BlackLabelMark]

I’ve been waiting for this episode for SO LONG! I was AT this RAW in Tacoma when I was a kid. Classic DX moment that night, as well as a classic promo from The Rock.

[@timbartschwolfman]

Nice

[@tonymiller007]

I was there too. I was a Sr. In HS

[@brianstiles1701]

I was in my 20s and it was my first live TV show. Still bummed we didn't get to see Austin and Taker.

[@tonymiller007]

@@brianstiles1701 I remember there being a sign on the door entering the tdome that said they wouldn't be. Even though they were advertised to be there. I still kept hoping to hear the glass shatter at some point.

[@BlackLabelMark]

@@tonymiller007 I was a freshmen

[@kor8513]

This episode of RAW is amazing solely for the fact that it left HHH absolutely visibly SEETHING in the ring due to Shawn's merciless burial of him. I'm surprised he didn't straight up burst into tears.

[@Carlitonsp1]

If that's how he treats his friends, how do you think he treated his enemies? Drugged up HBK is a dangerous man on the mic.

[@Cableguy15]

I remember seeing in one of HBKs old DVDs that they almost got into a fight backstage at some point after his semi-retirement. They never mention what show it happened at, but I always figured it was this one. Being fair to HHH here, he kept it professional by only taking shots at Michaels in-storyline. He could have easily fired back with something more personal, like his drug problems at the time.

[@bryanmack4054]

@@Cableguy15 I think here, they were just doing the Russo thing, blurring reality and fiction but they were still friends…they had a falling out at the Raw before Wrestlemania 17 (I think). Shawn was high as a kite and passed out backstage. HHH told Vince about it and Shawn was told to go home. Shawn was angry that HHH didn’t take his side…the rumor was, Shawn was supposed to be involved in the HHH-Taker match at 17 had that not happened

[@freakshowfilmfestival3591]

I think on the Shawn DVD Shawn and HHH bring up the falling out and Nash clarifies that Shawn talked to Nash about it and Nash was like "Dude, that was all your fault." Like 'You are the only one who can fix it.' Same with his wife opening his eyes like 'you need help'. It's an off story that stuck with me for some dumb reason: He got up looking for some cookies, and he asked his wife where they were at and she is like "You and (his son) ate them all. Don't you remember?" And that's when he clued in that he was so out of it all the time he needed help. 🤷

[@lexkanyima2195]

​@@freakshowfilmfestival3591shawn hit Rock Bottom

[@woobgamer5210]

If I had a nickel for every time Ric Flair faked a heart attack during a wrestling show, I'd have two nickels, which isn't a lot but its weird that its happened twice.

[@henry7696]

is it? the guys been wrestling for 500 years. if anything only doing it twice seems like not enough

[@ChiefJuarez13]

they call me kid nickels on a count of these two nickels

[@johnnycee9325]

😂😂😂😂

[@ArtLeeThree]

Once again, Jason Sensation is the best part of the parody segment.

[@makaveli4205]

Whatever happened to him he was really funny

[@brittanyreid5781]

Underated. Should have been with the company for longer.

[@ArtLeeThree]

@@brittanyreid5781 for sure, just make him a backstage interviewer or something, pre shows, he wouldve probably worked for cheap.

[@makaveli4205]

@@ArtLeeThree I liked when he dressed up like Owen Hart. Had that huge nose. I'm not a nugget.

[@ArtLeeThree]

@@makaveli4205 oh absolutely his Owen was the best, im sure he loved it.

[@louisvelez40]

I’m dying when Ric does his own turnbuckle bump during the interview with Gene. HHH with that marked eyebrow 🤣🤣🤣

[@gjt_31]

The brass knucks part gets me every time 😂

[@sillyrascal3382]

Jericho was right though. Konan clearly cheated.

[@AllieRX]

They should've retired the Blue Blazer character on this night, since he got unmasked and it was revealed to be Owen. No idea why they brought it back later in '99.

[@lexkanyima2195]

A punishmentt

[@Jiren261]

​@@lexkanyima2195yep because apparently he didnt want to do a love triangle story with Jarrett & Debra

[@machscga6238]

​@Jiren261 what? Nah Owen was being punished for Injuring Both Stone Cold Steve Austin and Dan Severen. His Pile drivers were dangerous and Owen Should have known it. It's just a shame his punishment gimmick ended up ending his life.

[@KingSportsGuy69]

Not sure why we don't have a "Brass Knucks that don't look like Brass Knucks, but we'll call them Brass Knucks anyway" shirt. I'll buy.

[@LadyAstarionAncunin]

Not that I doubted it, but Holly really was a d-bag. I see he didn't bother selling for Jackie at all. But you can't really expect a locker room bully to sell for a woman, so it's not surprising. He clearly didn't bother getting fully into position even though he could have, and he didn't try to sell any impact even a bit.

[@leonardoantonini4464]

Being a lifelong low-midcarder and a locker room bully at the same time always sounds kinda weird. Who'd you bully, Shaggy 2Dope from ICP?

[@guyfranchise934]

Awesome episode 🤘 I didn't remember this episode of RAW because I was actually at NITRO that night. For some reason Lawrence Taylor was there and we all thought "WCW was gonna WCW" the main event Baby Bam and LT. But they didn't even tell the veiwers at home LT was even there, which makes watching the episode again even shittier... And to think, I missed the birth of the greatest move ever "THE CORPORATE-CHAMPION-CHINLOCK"

[@PoeticProphetic]

Norman Smiley, Alex Wright, Disco Inferno need to be a trio!!!

[@TONYGILLEY]

The Blue Blazer stuff doesn't bother me since it goes back to 1988-1989 for me during Owen's first run in the fed. What bothers me is what's going to happen in just a few months. The determined stupidity of it all from a management standpoint pushing for the event to occur and go south could have been avoided.

[@lexkanyima2195]

Owen should never wear it

[@TONYGILLEY]

@lexkanyima2195 The Blue Blazer wasn't the issue for me, though considering this was Russo writing; the entire storyline would have ended up being a pointlessly moronic d*ck & fart joke. My issue is with Owen being forced to do that stupid stunt that led to his death.

[@lexkanyima2195]

@@TONYGILLEY for no reason that Owen would have left

[@mariobros68]

​@@lexkanyima2195 It's Vince Russo fault for it and it's Kevin Dunn's fault for careless about Owen and just continue with the PPV

[@lexkanyima2195]

@@mariobros68 well show must go on

[@joerobinson604]

The best Bret shut up moment yet.

[@SunshineStateCoasters]

Bret as Dave Norton and Road Dogg as Michael Townley was hilarious! Made my day!

[@Tridelmofwow]

Roadie! How ya doin? (I know it should be the other way but it sounds better like this)

[@ArchangelSteve]

Every episode of RTW brings us a week closer to the headcheese era, the recaps of those matches are going to be AMAZING...

[@anticharlie1]

Do you play WWE champions btw???

[@fearless1024]

Best series on KZbin right now...no... best series anywhere right now!

[@Descillias]

Flyin' Ryan back with another Reliving the War - superb.

[@joeblow-slaboney1428]

That Disco/Wolfpac mashup has no right going as hard as it does

[@ironicstatement]

I love seeing 99 nitro foreshadow

[@cmcculloch1]

That Rock promo was a classic - surprised it didn't get more out of Ryan

[@Max-in5ok]

After these sad past few days, hearing “You want a WAR?!” gives me smiles..thank you sir much love from Singapore 🇸🇬

[@dynastytarikterry1988]

A new hero in Reliving the War is Norman Smiley. 17:34 is wiggle time.

[@CreationsVibration]

Bret Harts cat Smokey approves

[@DegenTP]

This was one of the best episodes of RAW ever!

[@Nicksuavemusic]

I totally forgot Owen actually did get unmasked as the blue blazer

[@deathwalker565]

Yesir! Always making life worth living, thank you for what u do wrestling bios I hope you know your appreciated☝🏼

[@beepboop204]

[@djderivative]

that DiscoPack mashup is so good! I was jammin

[@michaeljohn8056]

I never remembered all of these DQs. It's just insane both Raw and Nitro had sooo many DQs.

[@roninmarketing4048]

Making Thursday bearable thanks WB. You're an animal! An animal!!!

[@knottheory79220]

I always liked Norman Smiley, especially when he started wearing thick padded clothing constantly.

[@VIGLounge]

Hey, this episode takes place on what was my 11th birthday in the timeline!

[@luisreyes8903]

If I have said this once, I have said it too many times to count. I CANNOT BELIEVE just how tremendous WCW could have been. Look at this roster. How many quality guys did they have and just underused. Just so we can get more of the NWO and bogus DQ finishes. Look at what they could have done with this Raven opening. Jesus Christ Brothers Guess hogan had to hogan while Eric smeared the poop over everyone

[@kaysebain1004]

The fake ric flair heart attack was tasteless!!!....wwe....hold my beer 😂 (katie vick) 😂😂 also I laughed way harder than should have when hammer slapped buffs hat off 😂

[@saucers79]

That Norman Smiley jingle, man. Youve done it again.

[@kcjustice08]

This is like watching a company slowly fall down a flight of steps. I love RTW, especially because I was WWF exclusive. Yet,...poor WCW.

[@C280S]

It's only downhill from here😂

[@crapsmalloy7273]

And to think, I just finished another recent playthrough of GTA 5. Thanks for that, it made my day.

[@C280S]

The more i watch these the more its clear Raw had way more epic moments on TV than WCW did. Everything about WWF was better after the NWO thing died down

[@NotScrubNotGood]

Im so happy you have given Norman Smiley the recognition that man deserves!! And just like all the legends of RTW, he has his own segment. I freaking loved his gimmick as a kid, always made me laugh. WIGGLE WIGGLE, WIGGLE WIGGLE 👊

[@ericathewwfwcwdivastraight8906]

When Wrestling kicked booty back in the day 🌞 WWF vs WCW Still rules over today's boring wrestling

[@keeferbigmick7943]

The corporation and the ministry were the two best ideas wwe ever had. The corporate ministry was just below Mae giving birth to a hand. A faction war would have been the greatest run ever.

[@FortunateJuice]

I like how you're fully embracing Norman Smiley lol.

[@gatchywatchyentertainmentb2090]

Oh yeah todays Thursday!

[@JStorm90TV]

I'm so excited to relive the late Test he had my favorite theme music 🎶 🎉 welcome Test

[@thisisnotachannel]

Gonna save this one for when I get home from work, so I can pay FULL attention... 8 pm can't get here fast enough!

[@thezachshowofficialchannel7345]

I have missed the Too Legit to Quit segment! So glad it is back at least on this episode! Makes me laugh every time! 😂

[@GFM1980]

Love the wiggle wiggle before the matches of norman smiley.....

[@Lexman509]

I should mention that before this episode aired, I saw a film called the Waterboy on Thanksgiving. It had a wrestler called Captain Insano in it and if he had gone up against any of this jabronies, he would of buried them all. He showed no mercy. Also, the Phantom Menace trailer was in front of the film.

[@That_Guy-]

Man of culture

[@T-Bag13]

Forget dinner.

[@shanesyrota1278]

That was the best Bret/Roaddog interaction yet lol

[@marquan1976]

Ric Flair vs The Invisible Man: The true underrated rivalry is wrestling 😂😂😂😂😂

[@andrewwilliams8432]

Hit that like button before the video even starts 👍

[@deandredukes95]

WCW should’ve realized sooner that you always look forward to the future

[@scottaznavourian3720]

Steiners calculations are always perfect as we find out years later' 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@blmareterrorists]

We're almost there, boys. The Finger Poke of Doom is right around the corner

[@KiLLeRisMe100]

Its so funny how watching this stuff back can bring back so many memories, back then wrestling infiltrated every bit of pop culture and media... cases in point I loved how Bret would always bring up his groin injury at this time, I really liked how he went on about it so much so that I faked a groin injury that year to get me out of running laps in PE. I thought it was an original injury angle you don't hear often and the fact that it was Bret Hart going on about it Made it all the better.

[@RyanCT89]

The Road Dogg gimmick aging like fine wine.

[@zlinedavid]

Shut up.

[@MayaY2J]

1999 is approaching

[@SuperjoeV1]

30:00 - 30:05 Left some of your original commentary in.

[@chibipoe]

Oh, 12/21 is next. Awesome. The setup for 1/4/99's Raw will be in full swing for the next 2 episodes of Raw. Can't wait!

[@dennisharry8408]

LOL, Steiner's calculations. That promo was ridiculously hilarious.

[@dannystarkridesfixed]

Whenever I see wcw book in his suits. He always gives me lawyer vibes not sure why but he does lol.

[@rauladdams5709]

Love me some Billy Kidman. The guy could go, my goodness. Thanks for keeping up the awesome work Brother! Always look forward to this on Thursday.

[@carloshill]

That intro always gets me pumped up because you know the kind of video your in store for

[@KingPK]

I've been watching some 2000 Nitros (No, I don't know why either). With all sincerity and concern for your mental health, if you want to quit this series after 1999 I don't think anyone will think less of you for it.

[@JokersVsZombies]

It was the greatest day in kevin kelly's life, but for Blackman it was just a monday.

[@zlinedavid]

A Mufuggin’ Monday

[@MR.__G]

A guitar on a pole match… I wonder who’s idea was that 😂😂😂

[@gregburton5451]

CONSPIRACY THEORY - Wrestling Bios man and Jim Browning have never been seen together in the same room

[@QuackMamba34]

What if I told you that Wrestlingbios was now under the control of a dark lord of the Sith

[@retepoteil]

Probably the funniest thing rock ever said making fun of wcw🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@gregwalker500]

New video up….guess that means its time to take my lunch break and Relive the War

[@eabcool]

"He's never been in the main event, he just hangs out with Main Eventers." Classic HBK, classic. I have to wonder why Owen was wrestling as the Blue Blazer when he already came out of 'retirement". No sense. Got to the end of this great episode of RAW and realized Steve Austin wasn't even on it and it was still great.

[@brianlarsen9952]

Woooooooooooo Jerichoholics Rejoice, as our GOAT will have his rematch Props for Smiley and the Big Wiggle. Always one of my favorite wrestlers

[@ziggydust91]

"You want a war?" Me: Yes. Yes I do

[@Jp808]

Bros it's been a devastating week at work but nothin like Reliving the war to bring me back

[@ctwwtc8761]

Disco just joining the NWO without them asking is the rare good WCW story line

[@atomicmass8451]

Only one problem with Wrath's winning streak. Bill Goldberg has defeated him in a few seconds on 20th October 1997. He has reviewed it a year ago episode 104. it was Goldbergs 5th victory. Wrath didn't even take of his entrance gear.... Are we claiming it wasn't Wrath??? I can get behind that. Wrath is my boy. Big power guy... Affectively useless but great finisher and prime boy material... But to be honest you can claim all I said about wrath and say the same thing about Goldberg. Except with Goldberg WCW strapped the rockets to him

[@jayboy2kay7]

As confirmed VERY vividly by Jim Cornette, you can tell Russo was nipping Vince’s ear to get his ideas heard around this time. Like 1000 ideas per week, with maybe 1 or 2 being good. The guitar on a pole match being one of is infamous BS ideas carried all the way to WCW. Jim’s stories are so amazing and you can tell almost everything he says is true, the dates he has written down for all Russo’s folly’s match up. Amazing stuff.

[@Obscusion2]

At this point I'm wondering why WCW didn't just make the Starrcade '98 main event the Goldberg/Nash/Bigelow three-way dance. They've obviously been hyping up the idea, and it would have even given WCW a bit of a way out of not "truly" ending Goldberg's undefeated streak. Simply have Nash pin Bigelow to win the title, while the commentary team can start to wonder if the finish actually affects Goldberg's streak, since he wasn't the one that was pinned. It also gets the title off of Goldberg without him having to do the job, which in turn would have given him renewed meaning to hunt back for the title that he never truly lost, in a sense. I mean, we'd still wind up having the Fingerpoke of Doom & the failed attempt at nWo Elite, all things afterwards staying the same, but at least we wouldn't have gotten Scott Hall with a taser.

[@Ceej_MM]

Official petition to bring back the "ERRBODY HERE COMES 2 COLD SCORPIO" intro next time the JOB Squad make an appearance

[@BigLee1901]

You know you have too many Scott's when you schedule Raven (Scott Levy) vs. Scott Putski and then have a backstage brawl between Bam Bam Bigelow (Scott Bigelow) and Scott Hall, next thing you know, it's going to be Scott Norton vs Scott Armstrong or Scott Steiner beating up Scott Hudson