Ranking ALL Violin TECHNIQUES [Difficulty Tier List]

[@jurjenbos228]

I just love you to say "this is really difficult" and then doing it flawlessly. Somehow it doesn't feel like bragging, but it shows how much you've practiced.

[@mellissadalby1402]

I am on Tonic about 15 hours each day, either listening or practicing. It may be simple (XP and all that), but it does get me to practice more and I think has helped me to progress faster than I otherwise would have.

[@absaelmaldonado297]

Ling Ling would be proud

[@misscatbirdreal]

Wish I had that much time lol

[@ChiefHerzensCoach]

don't forget to sleep now and then. in deep sleep the braincells contract and the water in the brain pushes out the toxins in the brain. so sleep really helps your brain work well. be busy - that's good. but there is a healthy measure for everything. don't forget! now congrats to your workethics and keep up the good work!

[@ChiefHerzensCoach]

@@misscatbirdreal just a question of priorities and dedication ;)

[@rewae]

15h? Do you sleep or work?

[@lad4694]

Honestly, listening to how others practice is really illuminating

[@ClassicalClown1756]

Ray Chen: makes a video about violin tequnique Proceeds to emediatly roast Twoset on tequnique.

[@sanaysadaghian4188]

Ok ray, now a we need a video of you teaching every one of these 😂🥲

[@aitorg.7741]

BRO YOUR EDITOR IS GOD, and if it's you is even more impressive

[@ludinzephyr4394]

Hi Ray, I’m a huge fan from Korea, currently living in Japan. I just got my ticket for your concert in Japan next March, and even though I’m sitting on the second floor, I know I’ll be able to hear you perfectly! I’m beyond excited to see you perform live. Thank you for bringing your incredible music to Japan - I can’t wait for the concert!❤

[@Hannah-CatLady]

"...And I thought it would be interesting to make my own ranking from the perspective of a professional concert violinist who HAS done these techniques, IN concert." Lowkey roasting TwoSet..

[@Lavendr87]

Damm

[@trueconextionmusic7707]

I love this video Ray. It really gives you an greater depth of what is required to play the violin. Also, I love your examples.

[@christu8148]

Above S there is R rank for Roman Kim: 1. Playing double harmonics with LH pizz 2. Teeth pizzicato

[@matthewyeager9382]

Roman kim the kinda guy to say 'I have 4 strings, thus, I can play 4 parts'

[@matthewyeager9382]

Not to forget using the thumb as an extra finger, and continuous left hand pizz for 20+ bars

[@thecompliationvideos4246]

3. the stacatto one string legato other string by far the hardest bowing technique imo (it's in the Beethoven 5th for solo violin) 4. the Kim harmonic runs

[@SavageDragon999]

@@matthewyeager9382 Don't forget LH pizz with the sound of a grenade.

[@amandas.6500]

I always learn so much from this kind of content, thanks Ray!

[@thelifeofcamila]

Ray is such a joy to watch.

[@vickywesterfield288]

I learned the sautille was a very fast spiccato. But spiccato is actually off the string and the hand/arm makes it come off where as sautille sounds off but really isn't, just the bow naturally bouncing a little.

[@purpletiger9313]

I learned that sautille is a very light almost flying fast detache on the upper part of the bow. It's very airy as opposed to a real bounce. Anyway that's how I learned it. Great video. Now we can all be violin teachers!

[@DanielGuttmann]

My teacher said the exact same thing.

[@lucienazario2786]

Wow Ray!!! I learned only now that there are so many techniques in playing the violin. Thank you for doing this video. I am learning much from you. 👏🤗🎻

[@maygullordali9157]

Love your video’s, they’re always so much fun to watch 🫶🏼 the editing 🤌🏼♥️ and the music 😭 such a talent 🙌🏼

[@jh.y00N]

As soon as I saw the story, I come over and set up a notification!✨👑🎻💎🌞

[@jh.y00N]

Wow, the professor who became the dean, seems to be teaching kindly!!! Tonic is also very good!!! I feel like a music family has been formed in Tonic, both professional and amateur! Thank you very much for the quality video and Tonic!👍🏻✨👑🎻💎🌞🏆🥇🎖️

[@ClassicalClown1756]

your video editor is amazing. why is no one talking about this?

[@HoneyMillie]

Maybe he stole Editor San

[@ClassicalClown1756]

@@HoneyMillie What is editor San has a a secret twin, or maybe this is editor ling ling 🤣

[@HoneyMillie]

@@ClassicalClown1756 Editor Ling Ling I can't!😂😂

[@sachamusicmagic8341]

I really enjoy these types of videos! ❤ Thanks for making this post, Ray!!!😉I recently learned Bazzini’s La ronde des lutins and it’s awesome, because it incorporates many of these more challenging techniques!!! ❤🎻🎶

[@HeyItsLuna151]

I learned vibrato in a week when i first started the violin because i wanted to become a professional😅 but now its been 10 months since i started, i learned alot about the violin. I learned some of techniques like, spiccato, staccato, shifting, and vibrato. 2nd year of middle school now.

[@UY-SCUT1]

Ricochet and sautillé are both French words. Sautillé literally mean small jumps and ricochet bouncing on a surface :)

[@buffywasright]

Martelé and Détaché are also French. One means hammered and the latter detached.

[@kai-dp6wy]

So ?

[@buffywasright]

@@kai-dp6wy Yeah, why would you want to learn something interesting.

[@kai-dp6wy]

@@buffywasright no one gives a f about ur language

[@richtrophicherbs6463]

Sautillé goes back and forth;ricochet continues in the same direction.

[@Spiritdragon091]

I didnt know you had a KZbin channel mate! Its a honour to find it!

[@WISH-Art-s6o]

So good to see this video! Love you Ray!

[@HonneySantos1]

💪🎻 Me gustó esta lista, tendré que vover a verlo. Siempre se aprenden cosas nuevas.

[@Mary-c1q]

Thank you Ray Chen to creater this space for practice music ✨❤✨

[@rosyrong734]

Wow I still have so many to learn 😮! Thanks for the video ❤.

[@mekura]

Ray, some people make tier list that has differences between the same grade as well. I.e, detache and martele can both be in C tier, but martele is placed on left side of C (high C) and detache on right most of C tier (low C tier). I think there was another Ray's tier list video , that he cant decide to be in which grade when they hv just slight difference. P/S i know everything is subjective and its for fun and it doesnt matter as much at the end of the day. Just thought that it would help Ray make tier list video next time xD.

[@Andrew_from_Oz_Vinyl_Landscape]

Thanks Ray, great job, I am a budding conductor with a background in wind instruments, so I find these videos of yours very instructive…..I love your focus on musical/technical education, and your professional honesty …Bravo!

[@losage8392]

Eres un gran virtuoso, muchas gracias por tu música ❤❤❤

[@curtpiazza1688]

Great lesson! 😊

[@firerunner1]

This tierlist just simply scares me bigtime… i’m starting my first violin lesson end of this month 😂

[@M_SC]

Soloists can’t remember learning these things. He’s totally, completely off. You will have to take lessons for 3 years if you practice 3 hours a day minimum before you start any of these techniques

[@peichentsai6538]

you got a LONG journey ahead of you, but please don’t give up when learning these!

[@penguinlim]

@@M_SC He states, at the beginning of the video, that he's assuming an intermediate level of violin

[@alexismonfilliette8150]

Welcome to the club pal. Been playing for 18 months starting in my 31s. Still going strong (but ugly 😅)

[@ScarlettCosplays]

About to download tonic guys, everyone else should do it too :)

[@Erincutioner]

ooo perfect timing!

[@Tejpek]

Prefect timing!❤

[@Ilcannone1743aficionado]

Another great video...Thank you!!!

[@Ella67829]

thank you for a very good video! I've learned a lot

[@sabrinai]

Love the Ray portraits in the improvement scale.

[@procrastipractice]

Super interesting! Thank you 🎶

[@marine5016]

Excellent ! Excellent !!! Moi je ne suis pas violoniste, je suis danseuse , ( je joue un peu de piano classique ....juste un peu et je pense que c'est mieux ainsi 😬)mais je peux dire que vos qualités musicales ,et vos qualités d'interprétations sont absolument exceptionnelles ! C'est ce que l'on attend d'un authentique musicien !! Vous êtes un artiste complet .

[@Wandyissocute]

Good day hehe, It’s 3 September in Thailand now, I opened KZbin and click on this vid, first KZbin video on my birthday let’s gooo

[@cindylau8797]

Ray, can you do one on etudes? Different levels of difficulty of different etudes🍀

[@HappyG1lm0re]

Always happy to see a new Ray Chen upload.

[@riripebby]

I feel personally attacked on Brett's behalf that he wasn't the left hand pizz. This is blasphemy against the Perfect Pizz Boy

[@laguitarradepablo]

Now I have an idea of how this violin instrument is played. I'm excited-afraid to begin learning. I think that what could be missing on this GREAT VIOLIN LESSON is a walkthrough on all techniques from D to S tier like a conclusion. Thank you for the time and effort. Parents out there, please put your children on violin lessons before guitar ones. You're welcome 😂

[@BlackHermit]

Very good violin techniques, rating in accordance with the Times.

[@janahtv7974]

Thank You!!!

[@HartmutChang]

Hea Mr.Chen. At same category if one is a bit heather than another, I recommend you can put it before the other one.

[@ashakuldip1657]

You are very interesting and talented. Thanks.

[@doodyaviv]

Love the ranchilo Silvia espresso machine you have there. I've recently upgraded mine to an Ecm double boiler, but still love the silvi

[@sanaysadaghian4188]

11:11 that sorry was so cute😂❤

[@lazecowboy]

Ray I would love to see a reaction video (s), reacting to violins in other genres. I love bluegrass and old time fiddle , Michael Cleveland is the top fiddle player in the bluegrass world, does any of his techniques relate to classical style? is it hard to play other styles of violin, from a classical background? There are many great Jazz violinists out there too. Each country has there own style of violin music. I've always wondered how they relate to a classically trained musician. Would love to hear your insight. might be some content others would like to see?

[@BlaqViolinist]

Been learning Paganini 5th 😂which I know is out of my league it's just for Fun though😂but been doing the runs and appegios for like a Year now😂 3:35

[@lennoxdyerviolin]

This is super useful, especially re harmonics 😜

[@thelovelybones0521]

I love how much education I'm getting. 😊 And I don't even play an instrument! Makes me appreciate violin more though.

[@izbr661]

Try your most complex complex 3 note orquestration using 2 octaves and 3 tempos

[@c0mpuipf]

would like to see a ranking of techniques used in a certain concerto - like sibelius - to break down all the techniques and rank them the same way as here; then try the same for beethoven tchaikovski, brahms etc

[@hannahhannah6506]

in my opinion i think wrist vibrato is easier because you can conserve left arm energy. i only started using wrist because i couldnt vibrato first finger and then i let it take over because my arm kept tensing up. i can still do arm but my habit is wrist. plus you can do it faster

[@RaccoonHenry]

I agree 100%, with my zero years of violin experience to back that up!!

[@daviddaasian9685]

G-sul really depends because for me, the technique was rlly easy to learn, probably because I had long arms. I had lots of trouble learning many other techniques though, like spicatto and upbow staccato too.

[@nyanchaneru]

I have made some music friends by Tonic really like this app❤🎉 We encourage each other and practiced more than I thought I could do❤ thank you Ray!

[@nekocafe8420]

I enjoy A LOT more this Ray Chen videos than 2 set videos, because i really learn A LOT, and is a lot more positive the vibes, always in two set violin videos or content i have to say is a lot of toxic vibes in many of their videos, and how i come from a very toxic music environment, honestly 2 set videos brings me kind of anxiety. Also the Ray Chen videos has an amazing edition, beautiful spots he made his videos.

[@KMARW]

In France sautillé IS played like your quick spiccato AT the middle of the bow.

[@Ferv0r_]

Great rankings! What would you rank sextuple/more than four-stringed chords? When you play like a chord and then immediately shift up to play another chord to give the illusion of a many-stringed chord such as in ysaye sonata 1 fugato. Thanks so much for making these videos- they're all a great help (or source of entertainment) for us!

[@Hannah-CatLady]

Oh so Ray Chen uses the tremilo method for stacatto like Chloe Chua mentioned in TwoSet's video.

[@KatherineTucker-kp3xm]

A bit out of your context here but would you ever consider doing a close up video of your left hand while playing? The option of slow playback might help us deconstruct your technique and shed some light on how to improve.

[@kh9242]

I would love to see Ray Chen and Yuja Wang play together. That would be heaven on Earth

[@cristilistic]

15:00 my old violin had a wolf note on the 4th finger d on the g string and it was horrible because it stuck out in the orchestra in some peices

[@riripebby]

If someone wants to check out playful right hand pizzicato, check out Itzhak Perlman's Tchaikovsky concerto, start of the 3rd movement. He's so playful and charming with it :)

[@violindylan]

Sautille is a faster Spiccato that uses the natural bouncing of the bow.

[@kingofstringz1000]

Exactly

[@procrastipractice]

Isn't sautillé a kind of "inverted" spiccato into the bow hair without really leaving the string? The translation of french sautiller is "doing little jumps".

[@kingofstringz1000]

Yes what Ray demonstrated as spiccato is actually sautille

[@favchannel5438]

The ending time is 20:24 😮

[@TechPorkChop]

My 10yr old daughter (who has just finished Suzuki book 1) is doing double stops in Amazing Grace. When u close your eyes it sounds like bag pipes.

[@cellonoobtapipro8010]

5:00 also in paganini 1st concerto 3rd movement

[@AA-dq5uo]

The Silvia in the background 👍

[@sage1084]

Lmfao wholesome Ray flipping his viewers off…

[@JphillipsIII]

I LOVE YOU RAYYYYYY❤❤❤❤

[@benjers-2187]

its helpful to put your thumb on the corner of the fingerboard for pizz

[@u8qu1tis]

Isn't Sautille when you let the bow bounce creating a staccato sound on alternating bowstrokes? Essentially a repeated up down single note ricochet. Edit: What you called Spiccato I learned as Sautille.

[@dmytrotsvyntarnyi799]

That's what I was taught as well

[@AndySaenz924]

4:49 Artifical! I learned a new word today.

[@ghitadaoui602]

Can u make a video that explains the concept of every grade

[@HappyG1lm0re]

That would be a cool video

[@Chamtechie]

The one technique not discussed here that I'd like to learn more about is the double trills used in pieces like Paganini Caprice No. 6 or the Devil's Trill sonata.

[@Hannah-CatLady]

First comment, and first like😊

[@Hannah-CatLady]

THANK YOU RAY CHEN FOR HEARTING MY COMMENT!!!!!!!❤️

[@kiredpagdilao7231]

Hi Ray (if you even see this) I am a 15 old from the Philippines, I just started learning the violin about 2 months ago with a beginner violin. Should I get some lessons or just continue with youtube lessons? I really want to play vivaldi's works some day and was wondering if I even could knowing how much time it will take. also one of my favorite youtubers, you're the reasong why I wanted to play the violin

[@cfrost87]

If you want to play classical pieces, lessons with a qualified teacher will be a tremendous help.

[@airbornerootsb7483]

Lol greetings from France ricochet and sautiller are both French words😂 thanks great video

[@izbr661]

Try the world's hardest sheet of humanly playable music the cro magnon skinning chant part 7 of the entire orchestral piece half tempo

[@diabloget]

0:53 Editor proceeds to add Bach's fugue in sonota for violing in G minor, BWV 1001. Edit: Then Ray played it for a little bit too :D

[@agatafurczyk9149]

I like playing double-stopped natural harmonic fifths (no idea if that's a correct name for that 😅). Not that I've managed to use them in any pieces yet, but I enjoy playing them just to hear them - they sound so niiiiice! 😁 Most of these techniques are still too hard for me, but considering how floppy my wrists are, you'd expect that I should have less problems with learning vibrato... 🤔 🤣

[@thatviewer-4142]

Personally, ricochet is pretty natural! It's so natural for me, I tend to do it when I don't need to!

[@frédéricchopinFan.9479]

Let’s go!

[@aepfrost.]

What is the bach piece he plays in the "detache" section, it's the second thing he plays after those chord ones!?

[@alexandrodiova8386]

Bach - Violin Partita No. 3 in E major, BWV 1006

[@aepfrost.]

@@alexandrodiova8386 TYYY

[@enealiviu4797]

What about intonation, good posture or string crossings? I've been struggling with those techniques for the past 7 years. Yipes!

[@M_SC]

He’s talking about advanced techniques. You’re exactly normal. You have to do years of the basics first

[@enealiviu4797]

@@M_SC Well actually it's not normal for someone who cant get past playing twinkle twinkle little star properly. Double yipes! 😂

[@killerecho]

The next time I hear Andrei Rieu play double stopped harmonics would be the first.

[@hisky.]

now you should rank all popular violinists that you know personally in terms of skill

[@Hannah-CatLady]

This should be fun😊

[@HI-dx4up]

항상 응원한 코리안 친구^^

[@JonathanNgoy-l6j]

Hi Ray I’d like to know, how long can it take you to learn a hard piece ?

[@MarcelJ.]

Yeah, this looks about right... though I haven't thought of most of those as techniques till now. Like while playing I think 3rd runs are really just 3rds, which are really just double stops, which also include octaves, tenths, fingered octaves, double stop glissandos and even double harmonics... and when I think about it I realize just how different using them is. Also, I despise the downbow staccato, can't stand that one. I just can't get it to sound nice.

[@coldsecond3758]

15:14 i study as musician and also my instrument has 2 stirng and it has 5 wolf notes😔😔 it's so difficult to play some classical things

[@coldsecond3758]

And i think it's harder than violin to play as a professional level

[@peggysmith-p5u]

Although this isn't about the string techniques, I liked your explanation of a wolf tone (especially the fighting cats graphic!) I always thought it to be most apparent for some on cello & violas F# note in third position on the G string, and hence some cellists/violists have a metal wolf-tone eliminator attached behind their bridge. I never heard a wolf tone that high on a violin...so do I assume that wolf tones can be anywhere depending on the particular instrument? I really like your videos.