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Razer Viper Review - Competitive Gaming Mouse with Optical Switches

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Rocket Jump Ninja

Rocket Jump Ninja

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@fireflameft2964
@fireflameft2964 4 жыл бұрын
Where is the grip table :/
@RocketJumpNinja
@RocketJumpNinja 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry was trying to go with RJN 3.0 measurements. Just off the top of my head without the mouse in front of me, I would say: Palm ... under 17.5cm Claw ... between 19.5 and 21.5cm Fingertip ... between 19.5 and 21.5cm If you rest your palm on the back of the mouse in claw grip, this mouse isn't too good because it's only 3.82cm with the hump toward the middle.
@loriedunn5954
@loriedunn5954 4 жыл бұрын
Can't believe it was you that ruined a perfect mouse with the side button advice, terrible design advice, takes much longer to hit all Actives as a support in lol and it's so awkward to press, it literally takes you away from mouse movement. Bad move mate.
@justaguy7020
@justaguy7020 4 жыл бұрын
@@RocketJumpNinja Do you Kovaxxs?
@ibooch
@ibooch 4 жыл бұрын
Lorie Dunn you just have horrible aim, side buttons don’t change that, maybe grip, but just change that and you’ll be fine. Don’t blame rjn because your shit aim kid
@tealty
@tealty 4 жыл бұрын
@@loriedunn5954 I have and idea... Dont use a your side buttons for your actives xD
@nathanlouie582
@nathanlouie582 5 жыл бұрын
I don't even play quake, but zy's quake highlights are so satisfying
@Fire-sj7jf
@Fire-sj7jf 5 жыл бұрын
It makes me wanna play
@brumby92
@brumby92 5 жыл бұрын
Poor pinky
@Zaseb
@Zaseb 5 жыл бұрын
Marc Nordengreen yeah when I played I thought I was gonna be good, but damn you really need like many years to get good.
@StarWarsJokes
@StarWarsJokes 5 жыл бұрын
@@Zaseb no it false, just self confidence (also difficult I agree but depend of your mindset not just "play alot" myth)
@Turtlemilk
@Turtlemilk 5 жыл бұрын
Should I get this or the steelseries rival 600?
@gooseph
@gooseph 5 жыл бұрын
I still cant get over how amazing your reviews are. They're always the first ones out and always give the most insight compared to everyone else. For the past year, I've been watching your videos and you helped me choose my mouse which im super grateful for. Keep up this amazing content
@Joe_EGz
@Joe_EGz 5 жыл бұрын
What mouse did you end up choosing?
@pineapple2814
@pineapple2814 5 жыл бұрын
Zy is the single reason I bought the Logitech G pro Wireless. Best mouse I have owned, just a bit too small, but totally worth it.
@gooseph
@gooseph 5 жыл бұрын
@@Joe_EGz G403 Prodigy. Been in love with it for the past year
@4FYTfa8EjYHNXjChe8xs7xmC5pNEtz
@4FYTfa8EjYHNXjChe8xs7xmC5pNEtz 5 жыл бұрын
He is Mouse Jesus.
@otimustron2
@otimustron2 5 жыл бұрын
facts
@privatepaula278
@privatepaula278 5 жыл бұрын
Faaaak i was literally about to sleep and than i get a notification of this vid, thx zy.
@maxwellstockton931
@maxwellstockton931 5 жыл бұрын
Iceak99 it’s only 6:00 for me... What country you living in?
@finnla2066
@finnla2066 5 жыл бұрын
Same lol
@privatepaula278
@privatepaula278 5 жыл бұрын
@@maxwellstockton931 Germany
@Tailslol
@Tailslol 5 жыл бұрын
heh saying it is a clone again , we are doing comparison too here. told you zowie was cloning intellimouse shapes i.redd.it/eyg8m65lrle31.jpg i.redd.it/yfscqkv3hk131.jpg
@shirdiy1665
@shirdiy1665 5 жыл бұрын
Was just watching your older Videos, and bam, new Video from Zy!!
@hyaku2806
@hyaku2806 5 жыл бұрын
imagine this guy getting hired by every mouse company..... Damn perfect mices coming these days
@Keodo
@Keodo 5 жыл бұрын
Damn Razer stepping up their game. This mouse does almost everything right! :)
@Evili555
@Evili555 5 жыл бұрын
Keodo true but a smaller shape and honeycomb design would make razer a “relevant” gaming brand again.
@poolicker7271
@poolicker7271 5 жыл бұрын
Keodo they’re also stepping up the price lol
@GrayFox370
@GrayFox370 5 жыл бұрын
They aren't. This mouse will be dead in 6 months to a year. Where as Logitech will pretty much run forever.
@poolicker7271
@poolicker7271 5 жыл бұрын
GrayFox370 and you know this how?
@dabeasthalofan6276
@dabeasthalofan6276 5 жыл бұрын
Evili who tf cares about honeycomb. Weight is weight.
@IntelEdits
@IntelEdits 5 жыл бұрын
I’m actually pretty surprised they managed to get the weight down to about the model o and remain at about the same size without adding any holes to the mouse. Leads me to believe that being smart with the structure of the mouse contributes a lot more than adding holes to it. Thoughts?
@BedBug1984
@BedBug1984 5 жыл бұрын
Should def be safer for the internals with consideration to dust and moisture
@ollie3427
@ollie3427 5 жыл бұрын
Having holes long term may cause issues with dust, I think the viper is the better model o, also hi intel i like your minecraft/osu streams
@inpost1751
@inpost1751 5 жыл бұрын
what are you doing here i7
@K4inan
@K4inan 5 жыл бұрын
Just behind where the mouse buttons begin, the entire bottom part is just a roof basically, and it has small bridges supporting the mouse buttons. The whole mouse is hollow with the back part being sturdy plastic and the buttons/sides being super light weight. It's a beautiful piece of engineering and holes are super lazy in comparison.
@ukmassive2544
@ukmassive2544 5 жыл бұрын
The model O sure does look better with the holes and graphic.
@sorathetroll
@sorathetroll 5 жыл бұрын
Your reviews are the best. I've bought 30 mice thanks to your reviews and now I want this mouse again......... hmmmmmmmmm...... Your reviews are so good that I just tend to buy every single mouse you review :o
@sowdersdidi7099
@sowdersdidi7099 3 жыл бұрын
What are you doing here bahahha
@dakotagreen7924
@dakotagreen7924 5 жыл бұрын
Went from loving the FK2 over to the S2 simply because of the 3360 and easy to switch report rate. Now I'm on the Razer Viper after many months of the S2 and I can say again that flatter mice are for me. Razer has done something special here and the viper will be my new main for the foreseeable future. Calling on Zowie now to refresh the FK2 to see which is really the best.
@itsmerobinyi
@itsmerobinyi 5 жыл бұрын
Is it bc you use claw grip? I use claw and the s2 has been amazing for me
@itsmerobinyi
@itsmerobinyi 5 жыл бұрын
Wondering bc I wonder if I should move over to this?
@dakotagreen7924
@dakotagreen7924 5 жыл бұрын
@@itsmerobinyi yeah im a claw gripper.
@tylancarino2959
@tylancarino2959 5 жыл бұрын
@@dakotagreen7924 whats your hand size i have 17.5x8cm hands and i claw grip...i really want this and the model o but im afraid that they might be too big for me ps model o- has availability issues in my area
@AniRayn
@AniRayn 5 жыл бұрын
Easily the best mouse reviewer on youtube. Great stuff, as always. Thanks!
@akabigfry6645
@akabigfry6645 3 жыл бұрын
Used this mouse for 6 months and it is AMAZING
@crankiermusic7436
@crankiermusic7436 3 жыл бұрын
How is it holding up?
@akabigfry6645
@akabigfry6645 3 жыл бұрын
@@crankiermusic7436 v well
@Rocksteady72a
@Rocksteady72a 4 жыл бұрын
If this mouse doesn't break down into double-clicking like my G Pro Wireless (and it's _many_ replacements, to the point where I feel like it's a subscription) then I'm sold.
@thelevhart7980
@thelevhart7980 4 жыл бұрын
It uses optical switches so there isnt any double clicking. Thats why im thinking of buying this over the GPW.
@freedomfighter8883
@freedomfighter8883 4 жыл бұрын
I have this mouse, the shape and sensor are amazing but the optical mouse clicks take some time to get used to because they feel mushy compared to standard switches. Not necessarily a bad thing but there is an adjustment period just a heads up if you're thinking of buying.
@mattvincent7349
@mattvincent7349 5 жыл бұрын
we need a new updated top 40 mouse list on ur website.
@heart4011
@heart4011 5 жыл бұрын
heard he's making a new site which means a whole new look on things We'll have to wait for it to be updated
@Failuremagnificent
@Failuremagnificent 4 жыл бұрын
link?
@Hightower2804TP
@Hightower2804TP Жыл бұрын
I'm using this mouse on a daily basis for almost 3 years now. Not a single problem. All that thanks to your video. Thanks man
@shizu9245
@shizu9245 5 жыл бұрын
i love this comparison u are making, really helps me considering what i should buy
@moistmanatee484
@moistmanatee484 5 жыл бұрын
He criticized Daddy Model O! Get him! Actually though, good review, I’ll definitely check this one out
@yungc943
@yungc943 5 жыл бұрын
Moist Manatee haha
@elloralondon3326
@elloralondon3326 5 жыл бұрын
Moist Manatee the model o isn’t really as good as people say it is people just like it for its price and quality.
@xflamousz
@xflamousz 5 жыл бұрын
@@elloralondon3326 I've got the viper, a air 58 and a model o. I used all quite a bit but eventually stuck with the o. The flare at the front bugs me quite a lot even tho I'm fingertip. The air 58 is a bit too tall for me
@CatnamedMittens
@CatnamedMittens 5 жыл бұрын
@@elloralondon3326 it's the amd of mice tbh, specifically comparing it to their cpu division. Really good for the money and performance.
@viperlife914
@viperlife914 4 жыл бұрын
@David Whitfield yeah because they dont over price shit like razer and way you has a defective unit so you could have just told them to get you a new one lol
@HaanSoIo
@HaanSoIo 5 жыл бұрын
Ngl Razer, after about 10 years You have my attention
@mazedmarky
@mazedmarky 5 жыл бұрын
Nice Review, glad they made a mouse a little bit smalller than the DA. Thanks for your fast reviews
@becks8261
@becks8261 5 жыл бұрын
I really need to thank u for the Content you provide us. My first real "Gaming Mice" was the Razer DeathAdder but after some weeks of playing with it, I thought something felt off, so I sold it. (I was pretty young and inexpierenced in what to look out for so... I wasn't the most intelligent back then) After that I bought the Zowie ZA12. I am using it for years now but I feel like that the little something isn't there. And then I found this Channel about a year ago and watched like everything that could help me find a better mouse. After some research I decided to give the G305 a try since it not only fitted my hand size (I have a 20cm length and 12cm width hand, so it sounds ridiculous but it really is so) on paper but also got a good, let's say "score" from you. And so I bought the mice and tested it but after some time, I thought my ZA was still better, so I send it back. Now after I watched this Video I think, I found a mice that may be worth giving a try again. I really want to thank you for giving us such great Information about not only mices but also gaming equipment in general. I really cannot thank you enough for the help u provide for not only me but I think a lot of other people too. Thank you Zy! (My native language isn't english, so please tell me if somethings false. Thanks!)
@KokoroKatsura
@KokoroKatsura 4 жыл бұрын
A N I M E N I M E
@Feast_965
@Feast_965 4 жыл бұрын
Bought this mouse yesterday it’s f*cking flawless for Rainbow Six Siege, been clapping headshots with one taps easier and faster “ sensitivity : 28 - 28 - 28 , DPi : 1200
@chuckleberrypi
@chuckleberrypi 5 жыл бұрын
Love your reviews. I actually like the feel of holes in mice, but like you said, everyone's different.
@tomekl3476
@tomekl3476 5 жыл бұрын
ChuckleBerryPi well i like my mouse to live. And when i often get my mouse dirty. Holes are the worst thing i can have
@Kankipappa
@Kankipappa 5 жыл бұрын
@@tomekl3476 I'ts a bit weird, but my Model O haven't gotten dirty like at all unlike my FK2 or S2. I think the surface material/texture is just better for my hand (I have matte one) and the holes let my hand breath a bit, as I kinda palm and claw it depending what I do with it. When you claw it you can't feel the holes anyway, as mostly the holes are in the position, where only your palm would touch them. Maybe it will get dusty overtime perhaps, but I doubt it is going to be a problem. Anyway, this looks like a really solid razer mouse overall! :)
@tomekl3476
@tomekl3476 5 жыл бұрын
Kankipappa to be honest i use fingertip grip while gaming and claw when chilling out. So i cant feel the holes at all. But i often get my mouse dirty because my hands get sweaty really fast and its quite common for me to spill something. I dont want to loose my great mouse just because water got into it. And i like this razer mouse. Its not like the rest of their products that dont fit me at all and are just focused on looks. This mouse is really something i wanted to have for a long time. No holes, great weight, great shape, great sensor, rubber pads, buttons are also cool and i like the look of it.
@chuckleberrypi
@chuckleberrypi 5 жыл бұрын
@@tomekl3476 All great points. Everyone is different. I'm glad you've found something that should work for you. Personally, I have a strict NO LIQUID rule for my set up. I keep a bottle of water on a side table & an air duster to keep my mouse clean.
@dcv2009
@dcv2009 4 жыл бұрын
I've been a Razer Deathadder 2013 owner for 5+ years and it never occured to me that my mouse might be hindering my performance because it was the first gaming mouse I ever bought and had no point of reference. I finally decided to upgrade, so I bought the Viper and I fell in love with the shape of this mouse from the very first moment that I held it in my hand. Now after watching 1:37 I can understand why. My finger measurements are within 1mm of the mice's measurements. It's pretty much a perfect fit. It feels amazing to use and all the minor issues I had with my aim have been resolved and I noticeably aim better and more consistently now. Oh, and the occasional wrist/tendon pain that I used to get after long sessions is also gone now because its lower height doesn't bend my wrist upwards as much as the Deathadder did. I love it.
@kizunahoshino4848
@kizunahoshino4848 4 жыл бұрын
Do you claw grip or palm grip your mouse?
@dcv2009
@dcv2009 4 жыл бұрын
@@kizunahoshino4848 palm grip 90% of the time and fingertip grip on some occasions when I need a lot of precision
@kizunahoshino4848
@kizunahoshino4848 4 жыл бұрын
@@dcv2009 I bought the mouse too, but my hand is kinda small and my 3-fingers measurement is just 47 mm I am struggling with palm gripping the Razer Viper now :s Hopefully it'll get better if I switch to a mouse pad with higher friction, though it might nullify the purpose of the lightweight It's kinda sad since I really like the design of the mouse
@dcv2009
@dcv2009 4 жыл бұрын
@@kizunahoshino4848 Yeah, that length is kinda short. Mine is 57mm so pretty much exactly what Zy recommended for this mouse. My Deathadder is wider and it always felt a bit off in my hand, I could never handle it properly. Based on my experience, I would say that you can still get used to a wide mouse, but you will never be as good with it as you would be on a mouse with perfect measurements.
@dcv2009
@dcv2009 4 жыл бұрын
@ 20cm long, 10.5cm wide(measured like in 2:19). As for the more specific measurements which were used earlier in this video, they are pretty much the same as Zy's recommended ones for this mouse.
@VisabilyFresh
@VisabilyFresh 4 жыл бұрын
Bought the mouse, been playing for 6 months, I love this mouse, I'm glad I watched the review and bought it, it feels perfect.
@VisabilyFresh
@VisabilyFresh 4 жыл бұрын
@Voix nope no problems to report, best Razer mouse I've purchased.
@Bl4ckWarHawk
@Bl4ckWarHawk 5 жыл бұрын
For anyone wondering, razer store has it listed at around 90€. So quite a bit more expensive than the Model-O but you do get a (probably) more durable and reliable mouse.
@hach1koko
@hach1koko 5 жыл бұрын
Will you review the g wolves skoll ?
@Andrewwsm
@Andrewwsm 5 жыл бұрын
John Titor why so aggressive?
@mikkeljrgensen181
@mikkeljrgensen181 5 жыл бұрын
its a zowie ec1a with holes in it.
@marvinsprenger9949
@marvinsprenger9949 5 жыл бұрын
@@mikkeljrgensen181 Well, actually it is between the EC1- and EC2.
@Zaseb
@Zaseb 5 жыл бұрын
John Titor dude he puts copies on the list. The model o is gonna be on his new website.
@goatvisualz4935
@goatvisualz4935 5 жыл бұрын
John Titor he didn’t say he hates them. He said he prefers them without holes. And that doesn’t mean he isn’t gonna review it
@Dlusiongaming
@Dlusiongaming 5 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the comparison picture. Most people have used a deathadder so it really helps comparing the size with that. Thank you!
@SP.Learning
@SP.Learning 5 жыл бұрын
Dude u actually do a very complete test to each mouse. I love it But u always say at the end that they are pretty good. So plz do a video where you compare a bunch of mices and say wich is the best
@spoodyrl
@spoodyrl 5 жыл бұрын
It’s hilarious how people say it costs too much when Logitech is charging 150 and these mice are meant for serious competitive gamers who are willing to spend a lot to have the best peripherals.
@cypruslavigne7419
@cypruslavigne7419 5 жыл бұрын
Hey there's always $10 mice you can buy from a corner-store. Those people that are bitching are more than welcome to use one of those. It's a gaming mouse, designed specifically for high-level competitive gaming. They are made to have maximum efficiency with movement detection, suited for accuracy, and have extra buttons that many fps games rely on. They act like these are just mass produced out of some Chinese factory a million at a time. The wireless ones, like the Logitech ones, are especially tricky because you have to perfect all of their sensors because otherwise most wireless mice have an input lag on them. Even if it's minimal, milliseconds matter in fps games. People are just mad that they can't buy high-end gaming gear on EBT.
@MarkoLomovic
@MarkoLomovic 5 жыл бұрын
Logitech is not charging 150 that is probably only for wireless versions. I don't know who these people are who say it is expensive but 70-80 is right prices for mice anything above that is expensive since you can buy some of best mice out that for that price. You would have to offer something extremely special in order to justify it.
@spoodyrl
@spoodyrl 5 жыл бұрын
Marko Lomovic I’m talking about the G Pro Wireless, the most popular gaming mouse for professional esports players
@MarkoLomovic
@MarkoLomovic 5 жыл бұрын
@@spoodyrl It is not most popular
@spoodyrl
@spoodyrl 5 жыл бұрын
@@MarkoLomovicLomovic For professional players it is. Most of the top esports players in the world use the Logitech G Pro Wireless. Just most people aren't professional, so the $150 price tag is too steep.
@rubbertoe.
@rubbertoe. 5 жыл бұрын
As a left handed mouse user, I really appreciate the thought of keeping the buttons on the right side! :)
@Joe_EGz
@Joe_EGz 5 жыл бұрын
Anthony Rubbertoe how do you game on a keyboard using your right hand? Isn’t it easier just to use it like you are right handed (as i know some left handed people who do this)
@rubbertoe.
@rubbertoe. 5 жыл бұрын
@@Joe_EGz I'm actually right handed. I only use my mouse left handed.. (long story) I use UHJK as WASD. Rebinding keys is a pain
@SeacryBlastsAloT
@SeacryBlastsAloT 5 жыл бұрын
I just want to so say thank you for your existence! I've seen your channel grow almost from the start and what you are doing is just awesome pioneering work. I am happy that you are helping me to find what's best for me. Like nobody else.
@smilE-vu4rz
@smilE-vu4rz 5 жыл бұрын
Never forget that this man helped start the RGB revolution
@LookingGlass69
@LookingGlass69 3 жыл бұрын
wtt i hate rjn now?
@chaz8652
@chaz8652 5 жыл бұрын
Dont buy this mouse. Reasons why: 1.) Viper Chroma (Full RGB) 2.) Viper Elite 3.) Viper Tournament Edition 4.) Viper Essential 5.) Viper 2020 6.) Viper Wireless 7.) Viper Wireless Hero 8.) Viper 2
@chetandesai1971
@chetandesai1971 5 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@cmpunksbestfan
@cmpunksbestfan 5 жыл бұрын
Taco from MiBR already has a Viper Wireless
@user-uf4lf2bp8t
@user-uf4lf2bp8t 5 жыл бұрын
This is literally viper 2
@pewpew2321
@pewpew2321 5 жыл бұрын
GetZapped exactly! This is Viper V2. The original Viper had 1000dpi :3
@enigmatix6224
@enigmatix6224 4 жыл бұрын
This comment cracked me up XD
@Szkofild9
@Szkofild9 4 жыл бұрын
i bought Viper yesterday , beacuse of you Mr. RJN. ... Absolutely fantastic mouse! Thanks for help!
@st4my721
@st4my721 5 жыл бұрын
That last rail was nuts!
@Revelatus
@Revelatus 4 жыл бұрын
I have the ultimate, so not sure if this is an issue with the regular viper or not, by my right click felt pretty squeeky/crunchy/mushy out of the box. I gave it a couple days and it didn't improve. So I carefully took the mouse apart and tested the bare switches which both felt great, so narrowed it down to the buttons themselves. I observed a small peg just under the center of each button that passes through a hole in the rest of the body. I assume this acts as a stabilizer that prevents the buttons from moving left and right, but the right side was rubbing on the inside of the hole. I added a drop of some teflon lubricant, and my mouse feels perfect now. I've seen a lot of people complaining about mushy clicks on this mouse, so I hope this helps somebody. Cheers
@freedomfighter8883
@freedomfighter8883 4 жыл бұрын
I also noticed the mushyness of the clicks on my razer viper, I returned my first one and the 2nd one I got feels a bit better. Although if there is room to improve this further I would like to take advantage of it. How the heck did you take the thing apart? There aren't any screws as far as I cant tell. Can you add some lubrication directly underneath each mouse button?
@Revelatus
@Revelatus 4 жыл бұрын
@@freedomfighter8883 the screws are located under the mouse feet. If you use a hair dryer or heat gun to carefully remove them, you can put them back on no problem. Just be careful with the heat gun, it will start melting stuff really fast if you aren't experienced with using them. The post I'm talking about can easily be seen once you take the top of the mouse body off and look at the underside of the plastic buttons themselves. Not the switches, but the buttons that you fingers rest on.
@Irion81
@Irion81 5 жыл бұрын
@rocketjumpninja, will you do a review of the Endgame Gear XM1 ?!
@Joe_EGz
@Joe_EGz 5 жыл бұрын
Irion81 he said he is, yes
@nrus_1
@nrus_1 5 жыл бұрын
@Jasper Seagar I'm in the same situation. My FK2 has started to fall apart and I was originally going for the glorious model, but they rae never in stock.
@dantehilgenberg89
@dantehilgenberg89 5 жыл бұрын
Jasper Seagar went from the fk2 to s2. No regrets.
@Irion81
@Irion81 5 жыл бұрын
@@Joe_EGz awesome, THX @ROCKETJUMPNINJA!
@Simon-lo4md
@Simon-lo4md 5 жыл бұрын
I switched from g pro wireless to the xm1. This mouse is on another level. I bet in 1 year it’s the most played mouse in the pro cs go area.
@doomslaya-dave1825
@doomslaya-dave1825 4 жыл бұрын
Just got one of these i was on the g305 wireless this mouse is hands down the best mouse I've ever used even with the cable pretty much feels wireless thanks for the good reviews ninja great channel
@TheDioginese
@TheDioginese 5 жыл бұрын
Just ordered one. Super stoked. Ty Zy!
@katsudom
@katsudom 5 жыл бұрын
Hardware Canucks, Rocket Jump Ninja, and Brandon Taylor uploaded a video on this same mouse at the same time....
@isakh8565
@isakh8565 5 жыл бұрын
That's how NDA's work
@SPL1NGYDUDE
@SPL1NGYDUDE 5 жыл бұрын
Companies often work directly with content creators
@friednoodles4935
@friednoodles4935 5 жыл бұрын
Badseed Tech too!
@nothingEvil101
@nothingEvil101 5 жыл бұрын
Welcome to marketingtube!
@Mebble
@Mebble 3 жыл бұрын
@@isakh8565 It's not an NDA, its an embargo for the more technically true term.
@Fizzacles
@Fizzacles 5 жыл бұрын
To me the shell looks like a hybrid between Steelseries Rival/Sensei and a Logitech G 903.
@DTM1337
@DTM1337 2 жыл бұрын
Great review and triple rail at the end there :)
@Kaizuka-eg9fd
@Kaizuka-eg9fd 3 жыл бұрын
so I was measuring my hand along with the video and realized its perfect for my hand, thanks for the suggestion now I gotta check this out
@Evili555
@Evili555 5 жыл бұрын
They can probably make it 55 grams with honeycomb design
@gecko388
@gecko388 5 жыл бұрын
i think a razer rep on the mousereview subreddit said that with honeycomb and no buttons on the right side, it would probably come in at ~50g.
@Evili555
@Evili555 5 жыл бұрын
Hayden Topping thing was I was going to say 50grams but thought they might of been to light so I added an extra 5
@nickd7935
@nickd7935 5 жыл бұрын
But is 50 grams really worth it? At some point you’re just going to have air under your hand lol
@ltsjoke5443
@ltsjoke5443 5 жыл бұрын
you wont notice anything past 70, but okay :))
@Evili555
@Evili555 5 жыл бұрын
Brandon Hall well depends if u have a 30 gram mouse I will notice but going around 5 grams else’s isn’t tooooooo noticeable... if they removed the side buttons and honeycomb as the Hayden dude said above... and no rgb for less weight.... it may be in RJN’s top 5 mice and decreased the price to around 50
@BlueMaxMC
@BlueMaxMC 5 жыл бұрын
Hype is real I waited for this Video :D
@Turtlemilk
@Turtlemilk 5 жыл бұрын
Not Pro :D Should I get this or the steelseries rival 600?
@BlueMaxMC
@BlueMaxMC 5 жыл бұрын
@@Turtlemilk I would rather get this Mouse its lighter has a better cable and the sensor is on the same level. Also the shape of the Razer is one of the best because they copied it from Zowie like glorious did.
@Turtlemilk
@Turtlemilk 5 жыл бұрын
Not Pro :D thank you, kind sir 💕. I will certainly buy this mouse once I wake up tomorrow morning 🙌🏻
@BlueMaxMC
@BlueMaxMC 5 жыл бұрын
@@Turtlemilk No problem Bro
@ordjk4797
@ordjk4797 3 жыл бұрын
How is the mouse doing for you now ?
@geo5295
@geo5295 5 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for more mice to have optical switches
@DanzoSrife
@DanzoSrife 5 жыл бұрын
Was looking for something like Glorious O with much better grip, a return policy that works (is on Amazon!) and is light, and it's only 3 grams heavier, also a good med to large. This seems exactly right! THANKS Bro :)
@truthseekerchannel3584
@truthseekerchannel3584 5 жыл бұрын
In Germany the mouse costs 90€ and the the Glorious Model O , which is pretty equally good only costs 50€. So I guess im gonna get the Model O
@Viper4ever05
@Viper4ever05 5 жыл бұрын
The side buttons are my biggest issue. I dont want to do thumb gymnastics just to press a button.
@gasper5223
@gasper5223 5 жыл бұрын
VPX4 I have a Deathadder elite and I often press the side buttons by accident when I'm in a intense firefight. I was playing cs once and an enemy jump in front of me and I pressed mouse 4 in a panic and equipped a flashbang and died. I don't have anything bind to the side buttons because I don't use them. I have enough keys on the keyboard.
@truegrip2281
@truegrip2281 5 жыл бұрын
If you found a mouse which is great for you except the side button, You can open the mouse and unplug the part with the side buttons from the main board, remove it. And then fill the hole with a custom 3d print :) should be an easy trick :)
@nagynorbie
@nagynorbie 5 жыл бұрын
@@truegrip2281 Or you can just change the keybinding, lol. Just autohotkey it to number 9 or something
@Sholvacri
@Sholvacri 5 жыл бұрын
Well thumb buttons are quite dependent on grip style and hand size, of course. I've yet to use the Viper, but I've used most of the older Razer ambidextrous mice (even some from other brands like Mionix), and probably the tiniest and most stealthy side buttons I've seen are the ones in the original Diamonbacks, they were so tiny (it was actually just one button but with rock-like actuation), and they put small bumpy-dots over them so people could actually feel them, and personally got used to clicking them, even with the pinky finger, and even played MMOs with it, like WoW, using the 4 side buttons for active skills, so it's possible to use small side buttons...if your hand is able to, of course. So honestly, I don't see the Viper buttons being much harder to hit, it's all about muscle memory, to be honest, but of course some hand sizes won't be as comfortable on this type of side buttons as others...only if you have used similar mice in the past you can only start to guess, looking at the video and pictures.
@Energyone
@Energyone 4 жыл бұрын
@@nagynorbie Can you disable the side buttons in software?
@wolfren1386
@wolfren1386 4 жыл бұрын
I have a Razer Deathadder elite I snagged from Walmart for twenty bucks since the outer box was torn a little. But I still enjoy your reviews and browsing your website.
@luccaraucci2
@luccaraucci2 5 жыл бұрын
Love your work rjn, I always watch your review of a product before buying and I'm improving a lot with the right equipment
@sssssssssshindae
@sssssssssshindae 5 жыл бұрын
I just ordered my S2 and now I get this? Okay we getting both.
@randomboiyo6254
@randomboiyo6254 5 жыл бұрын
sshindae 蛇 waste of money much
@andrewpowell1462
@andrewpowell1462 5 жыл бұрын
@@randomboiyo6254 You must not be familiar with r/MouseReview
@howled0
@howled0 5 жыл бұрын
@@randomboiyo6254 boyo gang 🔥🔥🔥
@Joe_EGz
@Joe_EGz 5 жыл бұрын
I just bought both the S2 divina and the XM1
@howled0
@howled0 5 жыл бұрын
@@Joe_EGz I just bought a finalmouse Cape town🔥🔥
@kuroyuri_fps
@kuroyuri_fps 5 жыл бұрын
1.2 k views in 10 min on a mouse rewiew is pretty nice
@heart4011
@heart4011 5 жыл бұрын
especially on a mouse that we've wanted to see from Razer and after hearing rumors that it would be 69g with no holes was pretty dope
@kassie2k4
@kassie2k4 5 жыл бұрын
good review thankyou i hadnt heard about this mouse yet, will have to consider it
@DjXyanyde
@DjXyanyde 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic review! I'll definitely be switching over to a Viper ASAP!
@oOZdemOo
@oOZdemOo 5 жыл бұрын
tbh I really like the holes on my model O as a design feature. I do not feel them at all in a claw grip. I've had 2 razer Taipans for 6 years before getting my model O and I was very satisfied however, So if I wa in the market for a new mouse I'd consider it. Off topic: The model O I got is a flawed product, the DPI swith is stuck and does not work. I don't use it so I don't care, but keep in mind that the model O's price comes with some trade offs, such as good QC.
@roydaniels1284
@roydaniels1284 5 жыл бұрын
Well, it can happen to any product that it will have flawed copies. My Model O works fine while I had 2 Logitech G Pro Wireless', 3 G903's, 1 G703 with every single one of them having double clicking issue after 1st use. So I don't think it's the company and their QC when I trust them more than fucking Logitech. As you can see I trusted them more then 6 TIMES, never buying shit from them again, it's just brand you pay for.
@tylancarino2959
@tylancarino2959 5 жыл бұрын
hand size?
@MonsterTeegs
@MonsterTeegs 5 жыл бұрын
1:04 "wtf wallhax" Dude never heard of ears before smh
@idyllsend6481
@idyllsend6481 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think that game is really heavy on the sound aspect.
@armondo4446
@armondo4446 5 жыл бұрын
@@idyllsend6481 well, you're wrong, sound is very important in Quake
@MonsterTeegs
@MonsterTeegs 5 жыл бұрын
@@idyllsend6481 it is, footsteps and guns make very distinct sounds in this game for a reason, to give opponents information. Quake is one of the quintessential shooters not just because it was cool but because of competitive mechanics like shoulder peeking, gathering information through sound, and timing movement. Rocket jumping is the loudest and most obvious sound you could make besides making footstep noises, which arguably is less common than rocket jumping.
@Zerosixious
@Zerosixious 5 жыл бұрын
Dude 70g with no holes, which means less with no cable. That's nuts man. A lot of people are gonna love this mouse, especially ones that dislike the holes in the O and Ultralight/UL2/ULP. I am interested in seeing the O- when it drops. For now I got my GPW, and a UL2 on the way... Once Finalmouse gets their junk straight.
@flagoman
@flagoman 2 жыл бұрын
As Always, GREAT Review, thank you, RJN
@benwalker5589
@benwalker5589 3 жыл бұрын
9:29 Now that it has been over a year, how have the grips held up?
@mikkelstormhansen9733
@mikkelstormhansen9733 3 жыл бұрын
He's not looking at a year old video dude, try a new video
@rdeh1678
@rdeh1678 3 жыл бұрын
They hold up well
@jackfisher8966
@jackfisher8966 5 жыл бұрын
Hmm, ok, a new mouse, that’s cool, thanks for the review
@Fueledbyfishing13
@Fueledbyfishing13 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Zy, I just picked up this mouse because your sizing guide and it's your top 5 overall. Never thought I'd buy a razer product. So far so good 🤙👍
@pagla07
@pagla07 5 жыл бұрын
I bet all the research zy does about mouse size and hand shape and size is more detailed and in depth than most manufacturers
@nicolasvargas6782
@nicolasvargas6782 5 жыл бұрын
review the m55 of corsair, it looks like they finally did a mouse with a decent shape xd
@calab4539
@calab4539 5 жыл бұрын
Just look at his aiming and reaction......Age doesn’t matters truely.
@pf2611
@pf2611 5 жыл бұрын
I'm impressed. Uploaded right around the time razer made their's.
@thechroniclesofcriss942
@thechroniclesofcriss942 10 ай бұрын
I so wish for a new version of the Razer Lachesis. It had a LASER sensor and was quite lengthy, but the side buttons' placement was perfect - low enough that you could easily press them with your thumb, but high enough to prevent accidental clicks, even more so thanks to the fact they were thin. I still use it to this day on my 2nd computer which I use just to browse the internet. If they made a new version with a good optical sensor and made it 20% shorter, I would buy it in a heartbeat. if you see this comment, and if you can get in touch with Razer, please tell them to refresh the Lachesis with a shorter length and a good optical sensor. It's the best mouse for me personally and you can tell how much I wish for a new shorter optical version. A rubber grip similar to the Lancehead TE would also be a plus that would expedite my purchase. A Non-plastic shell is also an option, tho not very important.
@mapel7603
@mapel7603 5 жыл бұрын
Finally might go for a razed product
@edizzo
@edizzo 5 жыл бұрын
Zy PLEASE review the new Endgame Gear XM1 mouse. PLEASE!
@ROADRAGE21
@ROADRAGE21 5 жыл бұрын
I’m not hating because you have by far the best reviews but I just dislike the fact that you don’t have the size chart anymore, I don’t know about everyone else but it just bothered me, it’s still an amazing review though keep it up.
@tylancarino2959
@tylancarino2959 5 жыл бұрын
exactly
@8lec_R
@8lec_R 5 жыл бұрын
Your channel is gonna blow up very soon. I'm calling it now. By the end of 2019 you'll have 500k subs
@jabatanrehabkgu1408
@jabatanrehabkgu1408 4 жыл бұрын
i dont think so.
@hippytea6333
@hippytea6333 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t think so
@24adrix
@24adrix 5 жыл бұрын
I just flick on the vid.
@harman3525
@harman3525 5 жыл бұрын
Don’t care about the mouse just your gameplay just ordered my UL2 Cape Town using code RJN I got so hyped when you liked my tweet. Keep up the great work!
@makacodi8836
@makacodi8836 5 жыл бұрын
finalmeme good luck spending 120 dollars on foam 👍👍
@npeppers7769
@npeppers7769 5 жыл бұрын
Rogue1860 got mine too. Also used RJN
@chris.j7944
@chris.j7944 5 жыл бұрын
@@makacodi8836 it is plastic the things u put on top of the mouse are made out of foam
@makacodi8836
@makacodi8836 5 жыл бұрын
@@chris.j7944 great 50g of plastic and circuit board wonder how much that costs to make. all im going to say is that the creator code commision is 25% which is 30 dollars so zy gets 30 dollars with every mouse bought with his code meaning they could easily easily bring the price down to 80 dollars without batting an eye and tak ing in account that this was also done with the other mouse im guessing production cost is 20 bucks max for each mouse. its all the hype just get a model o or drill a death adder lmao
@chris.j7944
@chris.j7944 5 жыл бұрын
@@makacodi8836 all mice are made out of plastic. What would u rather use a heavy or a light mouse?
@Rave.-
@Rave.- 5 жыл бұрын
I bought a Logitech G Pro Wireless months ago at your recommendation, and yet I STILL watch every new video you put out just for the crisp, clean content you deliver every time.
@Rocksteady72a
@Rocksteady72a 4 жыл бұрын
Give it a couple more weeks, it'll start double-clicking :(
@thelevhart7980
@thelevhart7980 4 жыл бұрын
@@Rocksteady72a yeah thats why im getting the viper instead
@minirobert
@minirobert 4 жыл бұрын
btw, YOU CAN DISABLE THE SIDEBUTTONS
@aubry980
@aubry980 5 жыл бұрын
But the model o has one of the best buttons on a mouse I have ever used and I’ve used a lot of mouses
@attackticaltwitchtv3542
@attackticaltwitchtv3542 5 жыл бұрын
Aubry but it only has 20 million click durability when the standard is 50 million
@aubry980
@aubry980 5 жыл бұрын
@@attackticaltwitchtv3542 yea but it still feels super good
@hedhunta3767
@hedhunta3767 4 жыл бұрын
Idk, I felt that model o has inferior clicks compared to logitech. They are not as quick and don't have such a good feeling either, but this is subjective as some may find logitech clicks too light.
@Adam-be3my
@Adam-be3my 5 жыл бұрын
so almost all 2019 mice look like zowie FK
@REDGROOVE1
@REDGROOVE1 5 жыл бұрын
Great review as always. Very interesting product. Wish it had a higher bump as i tend to palm a lot.
@Thomas-fk6ep
@Thomas-fk6ep 5 жыл бұрын
You can just add grips like the fm ul2
@aweirdo259
@aweirdo259 3 жыл бұрын
I have used the g502 for 2 and a half years ever since I got my gaming pc. Recently I have started to look into lighter mouse and this was high on my list of wants. And today it went on sale for only 25€ at a local electronic shop. An amazing purchase, I love the mouse so much. Coming from something as heavy as the g502 definitely is something to get used to, but besides that I love the viper so much
@faverodefavero
@faverodefavero 5 жыл бұрын
What people want from Razer is a 75g or lighter Deathadder, it's the perfect medium sized mouse shape, and I don't even like Razer as a brand but nothing comes close, no one can seem to make a good right handed mouse that fits perfectly for claw and hibrind claw + palm pro FPS gaming. I wish there were real competition from other brands for the Deathadder shape. Literally countless posts of people modding their deathadders to be light and looking for the very same shape with lighter weight for replacement when you search for "lighter weight deathadder". Razer, and it's competition is really sleeping on it and letting the opportunity pass, people want the classic deathadder shape untouched, but lighter. It has a reason it was a classic and both the most used FPS mouse in pro competition together with the intelimouse and the most sold Razer mouse ever to this day...
@huandrew3874
@huandrew3874 5 жыл бұрын
rival 310. period
@faverodefavero
@faverodefavero 5 жыл бұрын
@@huandrew3874 If it weighted 75g or less I'd pull the trigger for one, sure.
@ESSEyj
@ESSEyj 5 жыл бұрын
Please review Endgame Gear Xm1, world's fastest gaming mouse.
@damianwattimena4128
@damianwattimena4128 5 жыл бұрын
Excited for this mouse, love ambidextrous low profile mice
@L1zz4rdz
@L1zz4rdz 5 жыл бұрын
Waiting your videos just as hyped as watching game of thrones. Thanks for uploading, I love the video!
@milan7167
@milan7167 5 жыл бұрын
This or glorious model O?
@azizalmulla6999
@azizalmulla6999 5 жыл бұрын
Milan this
@alpha.4837
@alpha.4837 5 жыл бұрын
Model O
@spoodyrl
@spoodyrl 5 жыл бұрын
10:40
@krusty6168
@krusty6168 5 жыл бұрын
If the lift off distance is 1 DVD, does that mean lexip ceramic feet won’t work on the Viper?
@CatnamedMittens
@CatnamedMittens 5 жыл бұрын
Ceramic feet?
@WayStedYou
@WayStedYou 5 жыл бұрын
Nice to see onboard storage from razer
@cocoxnut4291
@cocoxnut4291 5 жыл бұрын
I hope to be in a future where mouses are released with different sizes. If they were in a store and went to check out some mouses, there can be a little guide on the box where you put your 3 middle fingers on to help determined which size would be suited for you.
@JocoChill1235
@JocoChill1235 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Zy, If you don't mind me asking, I need some help figuring a mouse for me. My hand is 18cm by 10cm. Used a razer deathadder (which was to big and the hump was annoying), Nixeus Revel ( Almost perfect but it felt narrow), and at the moment Logitech G305 ( also narrow). I play csgo 90% of time. And my grip is either palm or a hybrid of claw and finger tip. Any recommendations would be helpful. Have a good day.
@davidsegalle563
@davidsegalle563 5 жыл бұрын
Stop being a lazy fuck. If you want his advice and only his advice just go for his site. There are literally lists for different hand sizes and grip styles for pretty much all hands
@Andre-tp1jf
@Andre-tp1jf 5 жыл бұрын
@@davidsegalle563 woah
@JocoChill1235
@JocoChill1235 5 жыл бұрын
@@davidsegalle563 First sentence was unnecessary sir. I was just asking. I do research to figure out a general Idea. But some input would be helpful but not necessary. Hopefully you understand I was just looking for some advice. Have a good day.
@davidsegalle563
@davidsegalle563 5 жыл бұрын
@@JocoChill1235 fair enough. I was having a shit week (still am) but dont call me sir for the love of god. Youre sending a KZbin comment not a formal letter to your boss
@JocoChill1235
@JocoChill1235 5 жыл бұрын
@@davidsegalle563 I do it out of habit it's how I am and how I was raised. Regardless, have a good day.
@kuroyuri_fps
@kuroyuri_fps 5 жыл бұрын
BTW u are the reason why i am Using th Logitech 403 and i am so happy couse it fits my large hand so well lot of LOVE for Rocket Jump Ninja
@benjaminchen4367
@benjaminchen4367 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome that Zy gets a say in the development process nowadays
@KindOldRaven
@KindOldRaven 5 жыл бұрын
This looks veeeeeeeeeery sleek. Great review Zy! Might be giving this one a shot once it releases, either that or the Endgame Gear XM1.
@RatchetRorschach
@RatchetRorschach 5 жыл бұрын
11:00 I would also rather not have holes, but this will hole up my pockets.
@hoalequynh7691
@hoalequynh7691 4 жыл бұрын
We like light weight mouse, but not like weight pocket
@Luiz-gn8sp
@Luiz-gn8sp 5 жыл бұрын
Should I get Logitech GPW or Razer Viper??
@aliibrahim6186
@aliibrahim6186 5 жыл бұрын
@Snypeper Bro that's what i'm literally thinking about!!
@user-kj5lo9ru1z
@user-kj5lo9ru1z 5 жыл бұрын
both good.but I don’t like charge a mouse. So I pick Viper. If you prefer wireless,than pick GPW.
@Luiz-gn8sp
@Luiz-gn8sp 5 жыл бұрын
Both are good mice, but i don't like Razer at all
@M4rijnb
@M4rijnb 5 жыл бұрын
If you don’t like razer pick the gpw
@user-kj5lo9ru1z
@user-kj5lo9ru1z 5 жыл бұрын
Snypeper trust me. This Viper doesn’t like any Razer mouse before.
@Jhet
@Jhet 5 жыл бұрын
I don't even play games anymore, I just love zy's videos
@KPKaiza
@KPKaiza 5 жыл бұрын
loved the final clip
@tycoonmaster4606
@tycoonmaster4606 5 жыл бұрын
Zowie better hop on the lightweight train, tho the S2 is really nice but how about the S2 Lite
@Evili555
@Evili555 5 жыл бұрын
Tycoonmaster460 S2 with a honeycomb design on all sides woullllldddd make it probably like 60grams
@tycoonmaster4606
@tycoonmaster4606 5 жыл бұрын
@CFG What about lens flare 😂
@Larfty
@Larfty 5 жыл бұрын
really want to know the background music
@keganoneil5339
@keganoneil5339 5 жыл бұрын
It's the music he makes I believe
@KokoroKatsura
@KokoroKatsura 4 жыл бұрын
my new favorite mouse, got it 2 days ago on sale razer mice has improved massively, used to own abyssus
@KNDCHV
@KNDCHV 5 жыл бұрын
Companies know that you are the main mouse reviewer so they will listen to you. With that said you have to listen to us as well. This is the only way making multimillion companies to listen to their customers and not the sound of money stacking. I really hope Glorious and Razer to listen to you and make smaller mice. Some of us don't have such big hands and are pretty limited on choices. So now is the time to make smaller and lightweight mice.
@nattttt212
@nattttt212 5 жыл бұрын
White version of the viper please razer
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