Razer Wolverine V3 Pro Review & Comparisons

[@chronicmayhem]

Thank you everyone for the support, it's really appreciated. 🍻 I have one clarification concerning my comments about the off center sticks issue when Deadzones are set to zero. When I said I hope this is fixed in the firmware update, I meant I hope razor adds a way for users to recalibrate the sticks themselves. I think that would fix the issue. Also the tournament wired edition has been added to Amazon, so I added an Amazon link (affiliate link) in the description.

[@kenzilbaptiste2519]

xbox has a calibration tool on the console ....i hope it works with this since its an official product

[@Hudzter]

Just ordered the tournament edition based off of your feedback. Great video!

[@chronicmayhem]

@@Hudzter wow Thank you so much! I really appreciate the kind words! awesome! I think especially for a PC players that's going to be the more cost effective option.

[@Captdrpepper]

One thing to note is that a polling rate of 250 is still double of what the elite series 2 gets so if you are used to that it's no problem. That's wireless

[@Captdrpepper]

Best review of this online hands down. Well done. 😊

[@chronicmayhem]

@@Captdrpepper wow thank you! I really appreciate the kind words 🍻

[@alextorres3919]

Amazing thorough review. What I’ve been looking for as I’m torn between a few pro controllers. So far I’m liking the Razer v3 and its features. I’ve owned Xbox Elites, Xbox core, & Scuf controllers so I hope this takes the cake. 🤞🏼

[@chronicmayhem]

@@alextorres3919 Thank you so much! I really appreciate that as I'm still new to KZbin and this video was a lot of work haha. I've owned an Elite series 2 until very recently and I've mentioned it in other videos and this by far beats that out. You're if you're looking to use this on Xbox and PC. This is for sure one of the best ones out right now.

[@alextorres3919]

@@chronicmayhemSo glad to hear. Thank you 🫡

[@epiclegacy9]

Ever since I bought this controller I’ve been loving it, it’s the best controller I’ve ever used . I have over a hundred controllers over the years from generations of gaming and this one is my favorite.

[@junior-OG]

@@epiclegacy9 hundred controllers 👀

[@qazserNOS]

Nice to hear some detailed talk about the shape. It's the same as the V2 that I tried out and simply did not find comfortable at all.

[@chronicmayhem]

@@qazserNOS I think it would be okay for competitive first-person shooters where you can kind of take a rest in between rounds. But for casual long form gameplay I have to agree with you

[@Kizzy_B]

the GameSir Kaleid slaps the usb c port outta this!

[@kenzilbaptiste2519]

if you're on rocks

[@ChaoticMuchX]

Dude, the gamesir t4 kalied is not even on the same level as this controller 😂. The buttons all feel like shit , it feels like buttons on a toy that I would give to my 5 year old brother. Seriously, people always compare gamesir to pro controllers, not knowing there's a big difference in feel and quality. Yes, gamesir is durable, but that's about it. It has shit everything, shit dpad, extremely shit feeling abxy buttons (worse feeling than stock Xbox or ps buttons), and shitty back buttons. The only good thing on the T4 that's solid is the hall effect joystick, which feels very nice, and also the cheap price . But that's all. It's a good noob controller for your little brother or someone who's sloppy and gets food on there controller or throws there controller around. Get gud kid

[@technicallyreal]

In my experience the stick offsets when the deadzone is set to zero is to be expected with any controller. If a controller has a "true" zero deadzone setting then any minor defects in the stick and spring will become apparent as they prevent the stick from going exactly 100% back to true center each time. The numbers will be different each time you let go of the sticks as they're physically resting in a different positions every time - this is why deadzones were created. Any controller that shows perfect 0's when the deadzone is set to zero is lying to you and is still using a small deadzone. Also worth mentioning is that most games have their own deadzones in addition to the hardware deadzone, so in practice you can set it to zero on the controller and games will not be affected by the imperfections in the sticks/springs, unless you also reduce the game deadzone setting all the way to zero as well. Ideally you just find the lowest settings that don't drift for each game.

[@technicallyreal]

I just noticed the "Prevent double deadzones" setting - would be really interesting to see how disabling that affects the results with deadzone set to zero.

[@GadgetryTech]

Nice job dude!!

[@chronicmayhem]

Thank you so much! I appreciate it 🍻

[@jeeperscreepers9114]

You need more subs. Great vid, good content! Did you ever review the gamesir kaleid?

[@chronicmayhem]

@@jeeperscreepers9114 Thank you so much for the kind words, I really appreciate it! Unfortunately I have not reviewed that controller, I've seen reviews on it some time ago but I have not had one for myself.

[@GallardoGD]

Have you saved the results of any other controllers tested on the Circularity Error Test? I'm pretty much making a decision on this controller if it's bad against the average. I have the Envision controller from Scuf (8% - 9%) and before that I got the Instinct Pro (11.5% - 13%). Loved the stick precision on those but I really hate the placement of the paddles, the M buttons next to the bumpers are really great. And with the Wolverines V2 and V1 I got 11% to 19% (respectively) Also, it might be worth mentioning that Razer never fixed for the V1 and V2 an issue that surprisingly happens more often than it seems: When you press 2 or more M buttons in a slight amount of time the controller software wrongly recognizes the pressing of a random M button and maintains it pressed until you find out which button is still pressed it and you have to press it again so the software "unpresses" it. Here is YT vid that shows what I mean: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n3yuZ6Gda5eHlbMsi=-S308P5NNkNTVLYF

[@chronicmayhem]

@@GallardoGD the other controllers I mentioned in this video I've reviewed before and linked in the description. The gamepad test for each video should be marked in a chapter. I had a scuf envision pro for awhile but had constant icue software issues. Whoa i wasn't aware of that issue that's really interesting. Thats really weird I wonder what's causing that

[@StripedSweater]

Excellent review, sir! Keep it up 😁

[@chronicmayhem]

@@StripedSweater Thanks man! I really appreciate it 🍻⚔️

[@Motivatedlightmedia]

Seriously great review. Super thorough, thank you! Does anyone know if the wired tournament version will get the faster polling rate on Xbox X? Love the feel and comfort of my elite 2 with longer paddles. I just hate the slower trigger input.

[@wrayzur]

Great review! But I currently own both the V3 pro and the Tournament Edition and while they are great for casual gamers, they aren’t great for competitive gamers. There is stick drift and the sticks feel super sensitive while being a lot stiffer than most other controllers.

[@chronicmayhem]

@@wrayzur Thank you for the kind words! Yeah I noticed unless this you have the dead zones on not zero like one for example It was the only way I was able to have no stick drift, on zero not possible. I experienced it differently where I couldn't use it for casual gameplay because of the comfort but for shorter rounds like in a FPS I can deal with it.

[@humanbass]

The difference between the pro and non pro is just wireless?

[@chronicmayhem]

@@humanbass according to razor's website yes. That and no RGB logo on the tournament edition. If you're going to use it primarily on PC, I would probably just go with the tournament one

[@humanbass]

​@@chronicmayhemoh thank you. The price difference is massive for just that.

[@chronicmayhem]

@@humanbass I agree! I was pretty shocked by it actually

[@ivana6141]

Tupper gets a thumbs up 👍

[@chronicmayhem]

😂🍻

[@myteor5576]

You figure out the difference in the double deadzone setting? Also suprised youre using the standard instead of circular for fps ill give that a shot

[@chronicmayhem]

@@myteor5576 The circular to me seems to be cutting off some inputs on the outer edge. That's just how I perceive it but I could be wrong. I could see the circular coming in more handy on driving games and things like that 🤷‍♂️ . I did circular tests with the dead zones at zero and at 1 but the values were the same so I cut those second tests out of the video

[@myteor5576]

@@chronicmayhem yeah I can't imagine the deadzones changing and the circular definitely cut off at the corner angles just tried it out now it's more sensitive to me but could be cause I changed in game deadzone to 0

[@tototots2190]

Vader v4 pro or this? Please give me your opinion. I’m torn

[@chronicmayhem]

If you're used to standard Xbox controllers shape wise, you'll probably find the Vader 4 Pro more comfortable. It's also more than half the price and has a higher pulling rate. The build quality on the razor is probably better but I don't have a Vader 4 Pro to compare it with, razor definitely has better build quality than my Vader 3 Pro. The Vader 4 Pro. You also have the ability to change this stick tension. You could order both from Amazon and return the one you don't like. Between the two I would probably pick the Vader.

[@nugzmedallion8929]

I own a Flydigi Vader 3 because I really wanted to try a tactile d-pad but I was ALWAYS getting accidental up inputs whenever I'd be playing a fighting game, which is specifically what I want a more precise d-pad for. Does the Wolverine V3's d-pad have any similar issues when trying to press diagonals or quarter circle motions?

[@chronicmayhem]

@@nugzmedallion8929 I haven't experienced those because it's not as high up as on the fly Digi controllers. Admittedly, I only played first person shooters with this controller so far. So I usually only hit up down left or right and avoided the diagonals but I never accidentally hit a diagonal though

[@iGnashtys]

Are the stick loose or wobbly like the elite series 2 ?

[@seanobreezy]

I really like this controller but find my hands to cramp up very quickly when using it. Thumbstick tension is a little higher than I normally use also. So when playing destiny 2 and sliding sometimes instead I just crouch. But overall, everything else about it is great.

[@chronicmayhem]

@@seanobreezy I experienced the same thing when trying to lose this controller for more casual gaming in terms of hands cramping up a little bit. For first person shooter rounds in multiplayer, I can deal with it. It's really unfortunate because otherwise I absolutely love this controller.

[@DanyKochany]

In terms of back buttons, do you prefer wolverine over flydigi apex 4? I'm thinking about these 2, and I'm a little bit more into apex4 but not sure about these 4 back buttons.

[@chronicmayhem]

@@DanyKochany I Prefer the "side by side" style of the Flydigi and Scuf envision controllers vs the "stacked" style of the wolverine, Elite series 2 etec. That's because like I mentioned I like to only use my middle finger to cover all four buttons and when the back paddles are next to each other instead of stacked that's a little bit easier. But sometimes I can still make the stacked ones work like on the Elite series 2 or my aim controller if they're close enough to each other. Watch my review on the Apex 4, I think it's great for casual and story games, but if you're a competitive multiplayer kind of person, I would steer towards the Vader 4 Pro instead.

[@DanyKochany]

​@@chronicmayhem Thanks for answering! Well I have AimController PS5 dualsense and everything is fantastic but.... these back buttons/paddles on AimController is made of plastic and it's soft/elastic/not so responsive and it's a little bit frustrating because sometimes it making my gameplay slower ;)- that why I'm thinking of mouse clicks back buttons controller. Damn I need to watch ur Flydigi videos

[@katanamaru1]

Can you make macro binds to the extra buttons?

[@chronicmayhem]

Unfortunately no, I think you can only bind them to other buttons on the controller. Not any keyboard ones. But I will double check for you tonight.

[@katanamaru1]

@@chronicmayhem Thanks. I kind of figured we couldn't make macros since this is more for competitive multiplayer, but as a single player only gamer sometimes making a macro is really helpful.

[@chronicmayhem]

​I will say and I kind of mention this in the video but I should have probably elaborated more on it but was worried about how long the video was going to be.. for casual gameplay like holding the controller for a long period of time, I do find it uncomfortable to use. For a multiplayer game where there's short bursts, 5-10 minutes, rounds or whatever it's fine and I think it really excels at competitive multiplayer. But for casual gaming with the way I hold Pro controllers, it can get uncomfortable due to the shorter hand grips ​@@katanamaru1

[@x_Pojan]

I need a review where someone opens up the controller and shows the motherboard panel etc.

[@chronicmayhem]

@@x_Pojan I know @GamerheavenOfficial and @vCuda does things like that. I'm usually pretty comfortable taking apart electronics but when it comes to controllers and have quite there yet. I might in the future, but I was already getting worried about how long this video was going to be.

[@jeffmartin8377]

6 button and wired or wireless 1000 hz polling rate all great features

[@chronicmayhem]

@@jeffmartin8377 yep! And all those things work really well. Just keep in mind the 1,000 HZ pulling only works when the controller is wired.

[@jeffmartin8377]

@chronicmayhem it's an interesting wireless dongle how many can run in the same room with out confliction. Test it myself still.

[@aweigh1010]

good video

[@chronicmayhem]

Thank you! Very much appreciated

[@MHKyo1132]

Does this have gyro support?

[@chronicmayhem]

@@MHKyo1132 sadly no it does not

[@elijnr]

The razer v2 chroma has the worst thumbstick I’ve ever used I’m telling you. No resistance at all and it messes up your aim if you really play FPS games. That’s what makes me look away from razer controller and just looking at this , it’s exactly thesame

[@chronicmayhem]

@@elijnr I also don't like sticks with low tension. I haven't tried the V2 wolverines so unfortunately I can't compare them. I can say that this one had more tension than my Vader 3 Pro which is a little too light for me. But I can't comment if it's more or less than the previous version

[@elijnr]

@@chronicmayhemI really had terrible experience with the v2 chroma thumbstick tensions. I’ll just wait for the Tournament edition to release which is half way cheaper and try it out Great review btw❤️

[@Michaud12]

🎮🍻

[@asifzarar3075]

If your used to playing with elite controller, ps5 controller don’t buy it, it just doesn’t fit in your hands otherwise it’s amazing

[@chronicmayhem]

The shorter handles on it does make a difference in the overall comfort. For more casual gaming sessions. I have found it not as comfortable to hold for long periods of time. I think it excels more at competitive multiplayer. If you are new to Razer controllers, it takes getting used to.

[@Adrian-rn1ym]

I put some kontrol freaks on it and makes me hold it a little differently. And I find it much better

[@KevKlopper]

when you do click sound comparisons please stop talking for a second so we can at least hear one of the clicks

[@chronicmayhem]

@@KevKlopper I was talking during it so that the noise gate on my microphone wouldn't engage. If I wasn't talking, it would be completely silent and that noise is not loud enough to deactivate it. In the future, I'll disable all the filters for those tests.

[@aweigh1010]

I preferred the old Razer back buttons. Don't like ones in the grips.

[@bahgoesthesheep]

Bruh you got 10 inch fingers or something to like those back buttons 🤣🤣🤣

[@chronicmayhem]

Whooooooa

[@nazarethproductions7095]

@@bahgoesthesheepfor real !! 🤣🤣 worst back buttons for 90% percent of the ppl

[@iLiKeFooDNuMNuM]

🤢

[@JackLeftTown427]

Are you nuts? I tried one of those 1 time. Felt like my fingers were gonna fall off trying to reach those buttons. I love 1 finger use buttons where I flick between the buttons and these didn’t work for me.

[@daicy6674]

So consoles can’t use the 1000hz the controller says it does?

[@chronicmayhem]

@@daicy6674 The 1,000 Hertz is only available when the controllers in wired "pc mode" is my understanding. Whether you can switch it to that PC mode and then plug it into the Xbox with the wire and get 1000 HZ I'm not sure .

[@kenzilbaptiste2519]

when they say claw grip buttons they just mean u stretch your fingers a little more than you would to press your bumper not to actually grip the controller like if you're clawing because the purpose of the back buttons is to remove the need to claw in the 1st place If you put your fingers in the extra buttons and look at them the are in the claw position..hence the name

[@chronicmayhem]

@@kenzilbaptiste2519 oh okay, I suppose that makes sense. I've seen in other people's reviews them still holding this claw style, but I agree the back buttons should remove the need to do that at all

[@drunkhusband6257]

Would be great if not for the weird ass buttons on the back, feels really weird when playing