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0:00-1:21 Tip Stalls?
1:21-2:26 Tailwheel FORWARD Pressure
2:26-4:22 Impossible Turn?
4:22-5:34 Technique vs. Procedure
5:34-5:57 Pinching vs. Thumbs
5:57-6:33 Balsa vs. Foam
6:33-7:29 Crashing = Good?
7:29-8:15 Battery C Rating Lies

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@kiowafourty964
@kiowafourty964 Жыл бұрын
That landing with the FW-190 at the end was just beautiful ❤️❤️❤️
@mightyeighthmodels
@mightyeighthmodels Жыл бұрын
Met a lot of arm chair pilots at our field. For perspective, I’m 15 and don’t get nearly enough flight time. However, learning from your mistakes is extremely important. Before a few months ago, I had always had bad luck with planes and let me tell you, I have improved more in the last few months than the last few years. Always learn and admit to your mistakes. Don’t let old dudes get you down. Edit: not all old dudes are bad. You should listen. Some of them are wells of knowledge
@maybejoshh1907
@maybejoshh1907 Жыл бұрын
Same boat, ride on homie
@jordancoleman2402
@jordancoleman2402 Жыл бұрын
Some of us old dudes can be douchebags 😒 don't let them get to you 👍 clear skies my friend ✌️
@mightyeighthmodels
@mightyeighthmodels Жыл бұрын
@@jordancoleman2402 cause of my hobbies all my friends are old dudes😁. You know a thing or two cause you’ve seen a thing or two. Met a lot of great people in our club. Fly on!
@bowenbrown
@bowenbrown Жыл бұрын
Same thing happened to me, old dudes don’t trust the kids……. yet they love giving me free stuff lol.
@TailHeavyProductions
@TailHeavyProductions Жыл бұрын
Keep that attitude and you'll make it far! There's a reason some folks plateau in skill level and others don't. Stay human, admit mistakes, learn from them, and you'll always grow as a pilot and person. Happy landings! 📦✈
@MullaneyRC
@MullaneyRC Жыл бұрын
Good work giving a shoutout to Joe's battery tests. Every RC pilot should read that thread.
@steelrainfpv3383
@steelrainfpv3383 Жыл бұрын
+1 to this, especially if you're in a high current draw category like edf's, boats, most cars and trucks, quads and helicopters. His empirical testing methods and data are second to none.
@Workerbee-zy5nx
@Workerbee-zy5nx 10 ай бұрын
Wing washout is good to add to wingtip to calm tip stall.
@macandfries6765
@macandfries6765 Жыл бұрын
the music at 0:41 was great, it made it alot easier to absorb info with the calming music. great editing this video
@robertkbrooks951
@robertkbrooks951 Жыл бұрын
Tip stalls happen when you do not come in with power. Gliders do not tip stall. Airspeed is your hero.
@scott9141
@scott9141 Жыл бұрын
Interesting. Why don't gliders tip stall?
@Crazybros0
@Crazybros0 Жыл бұрын
The best time of the week: when tail heavy productions posts. Awesome video as always.
@MrFester63
@MrFester63 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video! As a noob, these really help me!! Great info, with the right amount of detail, examples, and humor. This helps me be more aware of what's going on with my flying, which helps my confidence and advancement. A couple of days ago I even greased 3 landings in a row!!! ...no one was at there to see it, ...so I high-fived myself 😀
@TailHeavyProductions
@TailHeavyProductions Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Glad you're enjoying it! Keep on greasin' em' in...and remember to bounce one on from time to time to remember we're human, too. 😁 -Zach
@CodySiler
@CodySiler Жыл бұрын
Discovered THP about a week ago and I am LOVING the vids. Great seeing a youthful vibe added to the vids. Ya’ll deserve more subs.
@TailHeavyProductions
@TailHeavyProductions Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you!
@MrShrek23000
@MrShrek23000 5 ай бұрын
I fly paramotors, and they really made me become honest with myself about crashes or accidents. You can't learn and grow if you keep blaming the weather or outside variables. I've learned to video myself so i csn see where I went wrong so i can improve on the things i do wrong. You're 💯% accurate about lesrning and growing. Its natural progression, and thats how they get to the level they are. Practice,learn and grow from your mistakes. Love all the videos. The satire comedy is extra amusing, and all the videos are super informative! You guys got me into the hobby. i cant wait for my first maiden! Waiting for a simulator as we speak. Keep up the great work!!!! 😀 😃
@Videolinquency
@Videolinquency Жыл бұрын
Thanks for finally pointing out that not all wing drops are tip stalls!
@adamgoldberg7330
@adamgoldberg7330 Жыл бұрын
I can't believe I just found this channel. Excellent video and I appreciate the humor!
@TailHeavyProductions
@TailHeavyProductions Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@tobiasjarpner1036
@tobiasjarpner1036 Жыл бұрын
Another great video! The same guys having tipstalls are also very well represented in the brownout column. Me, I'm just lucky that my BECs are strong enough and my aerodynamic knowledge is on a higher level than most, so that I crash my planes by flying beyond my capabilities. This happens a regular basis, but that's where the fun is, most of the time.
@Chio_OB
@Chio_OB Жыл бұрын
Excellent vid, tip stalls do exist, easy to confuse with an asymmetric stall, as an RC Pilot who used to crash a lot and doesn't very often now (but now and then lol) I can safely say that when ever I stall my plane in any way it's always my fault! I have a OS46 Powered PC-9 (amongst others), allegedly famous for tip stalls. Never stalled it by just being a bit cautious and trying stuff up high (never got a naturally occuring tip stall from it yet). Know your aircraft but more importantly know your limits! If you crash from any stall barring mechanical failures or very weird weather it's almost always your fault! Also heard brownout blamed for so many crashes where you can see a mistake caused the plane to depart normal flight (most often loss of orientation), and the wiggling afterwards that shows aircraft was never browned out. I've had one brown out in 15 years that I luckily recovered from, reason for the brownout? Pilot error, when I put the wing on I had not routed the aileron servo wires correctly and the servo was jammed by the wires in one direction causing a massive load on the flight pack dropping power to brownout levels. A lot of the erm older guys where I fly like to blame anything other than themselves, the best pilots (not me. I'm "capable") always grudgingly admit they fucked up. Though sometimes it is a random control loss with no discernible reason, obvious mechanical fails or just bad luck in my experience it's usually pilot error!
@Lukemiester16
@Lukemiester16 Жыл бұрын
This is great stuff to know, good on you for putting this great informational and fun content out :)
@omramchandrajieducational
@omramchandrajieducational Ай бұрын
I fly homemade balsa and foam planes. I'm really loving my guillows fw-190 conversion right now, and for that, tip stalls are really a problem, and its difficult to get a washout in the wing. In fact, since that's my first balsa rc plane, the tissue warped the wing so one is strgiht, and the other was a slight washin at the wingtip... You have to throw it very fast at a launch to prevent tip stall, but once you're at its sweetspot speed, it flies amazing and I can do fun aerobatics. The annoying thing abt balsa tissue is that when u crash, you have to cut some of the tissue out to fix whatever's inside, whereas with foamies, you can just easily glue. Balsa is very delicate and you absolutely need to be experienced with flying small models especailly.
@neilcaywood3803
@neilcaywood3803 Жыл бұрын
VERY well done, Just having fun with your friends!
@MyRCJourney
@MyRCJourney Жыл бұрын
Hey! I'm enjoying your content and am learning something with every video you guys do. I appreciate the link to battery testing. Very eye-opening! Thanks!
@TailHeavyProductions
@TailHeavyProductions Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@bloatedgoatfpv
@bloatedgoatfpv Жыл бұрын
Loved this video! I fly quads now but grew up on balsa and 10% nitro. I used to thumb but with quads I really need the added control of a hybrid pinch. I did a lot of flying at the stall limit back then.
@Tensho_C
@Tensho_C Жыл бұрын
same story, flying quads just felt right with pinching for some reason.
@Outsydr54
@Outsydr54 Жыл бұрын
X3. I learned to fly thumb 25 years ago but when I switched to quads went hybrid. When I came back to fixed wing I never went back to thumb.
@bwjones8903
@bwjones8903 Жыл бұрын
The Crowder reference is just too good!
@BrianPhillipsRC
@BrianPhillipsRC Жыл бұрын
LOL @ 2:30 - two weeks in a row - I feel so special ;)
@jakeman1251
@jakeman1251 Жыл бұрын
The argument 'ever seen a 40 year old foamie?' is totally bunk cause they just literally haven't been around that long.(unlike balsa) That being said I loved this vid and I love your channel 💪🔥
@lancebedour1473
@lancebedour1473 3 ай бұрын
How about thumbs and pinch? I have been flying choppers for 30 + years and started out before gyros were invented . I found that pinch on the left and thumbs on the right worked great for me and it really helped me out flying fixed wing. Love your channel and have also subscribed . Keep up the good work! Older pilot!
@gpaull2
@gpaull2 Жыл бұрын
Foam is fine, I just don’t see how they justify the prices compared to balsa or composite airframes.
@mrhelichopper
@mrhelichopper Жыл бұрын
Great channel guys, keep up the good work!
@NicholasRehm
@NicholasRehm Жыл бұрын
So much RC culture culminated into one video LOL
@CalebT_RC
@CalebT_RC 2 ай бұрын
I did try pinching for a little bit and didn’t like it too much. I’ve taught myself to fly without pinching on the sim for many years. Now my inputs are very small and works fine for me.
@slade8212
@slade8212 Жыл бұрын
Not a participating member of RC community so I found this interesting (aerospace student). I would expect tip stall to be characterized by a lack of roll authority and less from an abrupt wing drop (although I’m not sure about the second part). Asymmetric stall gives that wing drop and it’s completely from uncoordinated flight, ie: pilot error. I did that in a cub one time and it was scary for a half second. I think the size scale of RC makes it less forgiving in stall and spin situations. At this hobby scale they don’t seem to recover or be super stable. It’s always interesting since RC tends to have a crazy high TWR and other major differences to full scale aircraft that makes them behave so differently.
@aphlyp
@aphlyp Жыл бұрын
Awesome video/channel! You should do a video on the good-ole downwind turn fallacy!
@MohammadAdib
@MohammadAdib Жыл бұрын
Love every single one of your videos guys ❤
@Island_Line_Rail_Productions
@Island_Line_Rail_Productions Жыл бұрын
At least for me, I do practice the simulated engine failures when flying RC and full scale. I try to add a coule second delay though between the time I "fail" the engine to the time I react. In a real world situation, the shock of loosing an engine, especially on departure, and how long it takes to act determines if you will be able to make it back to land safely. Of course with RC, landing short will not hurt much but the wallet at worse whereas stalling and spinning while pulling for the runway at low alt is almost certanly fatal
@jimjimmyjam8242
@jimjimmyjam8242 Жыл бұрын
I used safe mode with the landing assist after crashing several planes. I've moved on to some different planes over the years but when the weather is sketchy or I'm flying with floats I still flip that switch if I get overwhelmed. People might say I'm cheating but I come home with my planes in 1 piece almost always. Well, usually, maybe sometimes... either way I have a blast and that's what it's all about
@jeffs7915
@jeffs7915 Жыл бұрын
When will you develop the skills to fly without a stabilization system? The longer you wait the harder it becomes. I use mixes,in many of my planes, I tried for years to null out the design coupling inherent in their designs, I gave it a good try, it's to much to contend with. But it was never a question of bringing the plane home. Reasonable skills that improve with practice keeps pilots excited about the hobby.
@OneHappyCrazyPerson
@OneHappyCrazyPerson 9 ай бұрын
​@@jeffs7915Using gyro's is just sanity, we fly them by proxy so why make it harder and more risky as we cannot "feel" the plane ? You must be a old timer that can't get his head around mems sensors and what they do and how they improve the safety and overall experience.
@yodecaf
@yodecaf Жыл бұрын
Id love to see an in depth one on CG. Most of the advice is pretty blanket and some recommendations have huge gaps between them!
@WindCatcherRC
@WindCatcherRC Жыл бұрын
There's balsa planes, foam planes, and then there's EPP foam planes. Hangar rash? What's that? 😁 When it comes to crashing for me, the wind always catches it. 🤣🤣🤣
@Jon_Flys_RC
@Jon_Flys_RC Жыл бұрын
When you guys cover stalls, can you talk about how raising the ailerons above the trailing edge artificially changes the washout and can help reduce asymmetric stalls? I know it’s changing the washout at the tip, but not sure what it’s actually doing.
@erich930
@erich930 5 ай бұрын
It reduces the angle of incidence near the wingtip (the angle between the wing chord and the longitudinal axis), which forces the wing root to stall first. This helps make the stall more symmetrical, and it allows to ailerons to have authority at a slower speed. In full-sized airplanes, the entire wing usually has a twist instead of just the ailerons being deflected slightly upward. On some planes it's a gradual twist along the entire length of the wing, while on others it's a hard cutoff between the higher AoI and lower AoI
@shelbyseelbach9568
@shelbyseelbach9568 Жыл бұрын
That fostered dependency is the problem I have with Horizon's Insistence that SAFE belongs in every plane. It becomes a crutch that people will not take out from under their arm and eventually stops their piloting skills from progressing forward. I've seen it a bunch of times. Each to their own, but if you want to further your abilities, SAFE will stop you from doing so. Once you CAN fly, turn SAFE off, you no longer need it. You can now stop even paying for the feature on future planes because you have got what you needed from SAFE, yet they keep buying them and keep flying them, plane after plane after plane. I always wonder if they ever took the training wheels off of their bikes as kids?
@militarydocumentariesinc.7007
@militarydocumentariesinc.7007 Жыл бұрын
Agreed 👍🏻 , when I first got into flying old timer coworker got me on small .46 balsa nitros. Had a elflight also with safe , he told me right away learn to fly and become a pilot. 4 channel plane , no gyro , no safe and practice. Boy was he right , to this day all my planes have neither and it made me way better and more comfortable, and if I get a plane that has safe I disable everything and keep it natural. Flying in windy conditions also taught me to be better as well. 💯 agree with you.
@zZWolfyZz
@zZWolfyZz 11 ай бұрын
​@@militarydocumentariesinc.7007I've never flown a plane with safe or a gyro it didn't exist I dont think When I I got into it originally but I'm thinking about installing a gyro in my first balsa plane thats still in the process of being built but hey a friend of mine gave me what is I suppose now an antique veco .61 nitro engine for it so that's one more piece of the puzzle just need servos and well a whole bunch of other random odds and ends and I can finally start putting it together haha but the reason I'm thinking about a gyro is because the wind where I'm living now can be dead calm and out of nowhere you'll get like a 50mph gust and I dont think with my current skills that id be able to compensate for that I havent flown anything in maybe 10 years got anybadvice that might help?
@militarydocumentariesinc.7007
@militarydocumentariesinc.7007 11 ай бұрын
@@zZWolfyZz very nice on getting a nice classic nitro balsa. If you want to smooth out the plane go with a gyro it’s deff not going to hurt anything and will help the guys for sure. If the winds get that high tho won’t be drastic imo but will help. I post a link to my other channel of one of my smaller balsa planes that doesn’t have anything and does fine in decent wind . Just grab a gyro pop in there. Balsa and nitros just fly diff imo and I like them a lot I’m sure you will be fine. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qKHVe3evasaJp6c Here is another of mine no gyro does fine in wind. kzbin.info/www/bejne/h37Ic6SEf9JrbNE
@zZWolfyZz
@zZWolfyZz 11 ай бұрын
@@militarydocumentariesinc.7007 thanks for the encouragement brother and nice videos i like your kadet looks like a fun one i cant wait to actually fly mine but hey ive still got to build it first haha i think ill look into gyros see if i can find one reasonably priced if not well i guess itll just have to be ok haha
@yesterdayschunda1760
@yesterdayschunda1760 Жыл бұрын
This explains what happened with the fire fighter plane in Italy quite well.
@saxmusicmail
@saxmusicmail 10 ай бұрын
I've always been a fan of R/C twins. Myth: You must use counter-rotating engines to cancel the torque (and back then only K&B-Veco had a left hand engine), otherwise the plane will flip over on its back and crash. Fact: Nothing could be further from the truth. I've flow more than a few twin .40 planes over the years. They were not at all difficult, in fact, easily flown with little consideration to "torque". They could easily fly one engine out with application of just a little rudder. And no, the engines do not have to be perfectly sync'd.
@TailHeavyProductions
@TailHeavyProductions 10 ай бұрын
It's funny you mention twins...we've got a fun educational video coming on them in the works. 😁
@FatGuyFliesRC
@FatGuyFliesRC Жыл бұрын
Loved it thanks so much!!!!!!!!!!!!
@shelledcrane0177
@shelledcrane0177 2 ай бұрын
Myth people have me is that batteries do not effect the CG as much as most other people say, I put a batterie in more back in the plane of the timber and it land without prop stricks
@ricknoah9184
@ricknoah9184 10 ай бұрын
Oh yeah thanks... got spasms in my ribs from laughing so hard....🤣
@derekterry4157
@derekterry4157 Жыл бұрын
Great Video! A year ago I was that guy that would crash my night timber and blame the plane with "the aileron servos stopped working, I lost connection, it just fell out of the sky" I have since learned I was crashing it because I was giving it abrupt up elevator and exceeding angle of attack needed to give lift to the wing and I stalled. These are my thoughts on SAFE. It 100% makes you a worse pilot. It is a crutch that limits your ability to grow as a pilot. It's also a great way to just enjoy the hobby. I started flying 2 years ago and I fly at least 5 times a week mostly in the park behind my house. I don't need SAFE to fly and some of my planes don't even have SAFE but I still use SAFE for 90% of my take-offs and landings and on some flights I never take the plane out of SAFE. I find it just a nice fun and relaxing way to fly.
@TailHeavyProductions
@TailHeavyProductions Жыл бұрын
Well said and definitely understand your viewpoint. To counter it - always remember that life begins at the end of your comfort zone. Challenge yourself to try some takeoffs and landings without it from time to time and I bet you'll eventually turn it entirely off. You may find that you enjoy doing them without it even more. Fly outside the box! 📦✈
@derekterry4157
@derekterry4157 Жыл бұрын
@@TailHeavyProductions Thanks for the push! I respect you guys and your content a lot so I figured if you took the time to give me some advice the least I could do was take it. I just took out the Turbo Timber Evo and flew 2 batteries without using safe with about 10 take-offs and landings and my first-ever touch and goes without safe. I also did my typical snaps and Cuban 8's and just trusted the plane and myself to fly out of stalls. The experience left me a bit glittery but accomplished. As much as I hate to admit it it's time to break my safe habit.
@ChadKovac
@ChadKovac Жыл бұрын
I'm certain there is an airport near me who is teaching the power-off recovery stuff over my property in East Tennessee. Every few days I'll hear a plane cut out, then several seconds later I'll hear it rev up again and fly away. -- sometimes as long as a minute
@agevan6735
@agevan6735 Жыл бұрын
Best !!! You guys rule,, Cheers from this Aussie in China, my fav. to watch!
@Axagoras
@Axagoras Жыл бұрын
So positive and wholesome!
@markdaniel8740
@markdaniel8740 Жыл бұрын
A wing will stall at a given angle of attack regardless of speed or weight. When making a left turn, the left aileron goes up (decreasing the AOA) and the right aileron goes down (increasing the AOA). if you stall with aileron input, the downward aileron will stall first, tip stall.
@12345fowler
@12345fowler 10 ай бұрын
I am quite sure a stall is defined about airflow seperation relative to the wing and not about an aileron. This matters because doing so it destroy the lift that the wing produce and aileron produce no lift but only bending moment (ok a small lift force then) And most stalls discussions are centered about level flight in 1G not in a turn, this is also how they are tested in real life because a turn would seriously complicate the matter as you mentionned in your post. I don't know if aircrafts are tested (part of certification tests) in a stall in turn scenario, but I doubt it.
@wyattsdad8561
@wyattsdad8561 11 ай бұрын
I had an AT Texan and that stupid thing would tip stall so easily that I sold it. The recommended brushless motor wasn’t powerful enough is what I’m guessing. If you turned a little too sharp it would stall out and slip into a dive downward
@jordancoleman2402
@jordancoleman2402 Жыл бұрын
The X-jet comment had me ☠️🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😌
@belperflyer7419
@belperflyer7419 10 ай бұрын
I've lost a few models due to tip stall - it definitely exists. A couple were gliders which fell out of the sky due to tip stall AND because I let the speed drop; so not an excuse (it was my bad flying) but a reason. I've also lost a couple of power models which went dead stick in a critical flight phase. The first was a P47 that went dead-stick just after a fairly high speed low pass on the pull out; I simply had to try to turn it back onto the strip to stop its going somewhere it really shouldn't have been. The second was a lovely Super Stearman whose petrol engine cut just after take-off - again it was the attempt to get back somewhere safe. In the end it turned out the electronic ignition unit was faulty. In neither case am I excusing me, just pointing out that tip-stalls really do happen.
@TailHeavyProductions
@TailHeavyProductions 10 ай бұрын
On a glider wing that would be an asymmetric stall. Check out our latest video titled, “Your Definitive Guide to RC Stalls” - we go in depth on them there and more, too. 👍
@taxigalaxi
@taxigalaxi Жыл бұрын
I already had to emergency land my Timber Evolution like 5 meters off the ground with engine faliure. Its very sketchy but quite managable
@SteffenRC
@SteffenRC Жыл бұрын
Always great content.. Love your channel...
@Skinflaps_Meatslapper
@Skinflaps_Meatslapper Жыл бұрын
Only way you'd ever be able to tell if it was a tip stall is if you had tufts on your wingtips and analyzed video footage, because they're otherwise identical in effect from a third person view. You can't feel if your RC plane is coordinated during a stall and therefore you can't really be sure if it was due to being uncoordinated or due to the tip stalling. Based on what I've observed of my own flying, I'm probably uncoordinated with most of my RC planes nearly all the time to some degree or another, as using a gyro on the rudder really opened my eyes to just how off I was with my rudder inputs and mixing. With the exception of a little F-86 I had, probably every single time I've dropped a wing in a stall was because I was flying uncoordinated to some extent. I've experienced tip stalls in one particularly nasty little homebuilt aircraft, it was a one-off scratch build that has since been scrapped, and it really deserved it too. Basically what it amounts to is that the wings are still flying, they haven't stalled yet but are right on the edge, you feel the buffeting but they never let go....it feels stable and manageable yet suddenly you start rolling hard to one side or the other after the slightest bit more elevator, almost like you just slammed the ailerons into their stops. Only input necessary to recover is to let off the elevator some so the air sticks back over the wingtip and you're in full control again. It's nothing like a spin/snap roll where you have to do some opposing rudder work in addition to relaxing elevator, a tip stall is more like trying to do an aileron roll in slow flight, though it doesn't take much to aggravate the situation and turn it into an actual spin. In a tip stall, you still feel that buffeting like you're right on the edge of a stall the whole time, in a spin or snap roll that buffeting becomes relatively smooth after a wing stalls. You can swap the stall from left to right wingtip by using tiny amounts of rudder to shove the stalling wingtip into cleaner air, giving you the ability to roll way faster at near stall speed than ailerons could ever provide, however it's ridiculously easy to take it too far and enter an actual spin, so there's no practical use for it besides having a bit of silly fun at altitude. Really dangerous on landing if your standard procedure is touching wheels on the ground just above stall speed, you have to give yourself some extra airspeed so you're not close to stalling any part of the wing. If you were to stall a wingtip during a gentle flare to touchdown, you're done, there's no recovering, it happens too quick and you can't relax the elevator to stick the air to the wingtip because you're too close to the ground for it. Best to simply treat it like Vmc in a twin, don't ever ever ever get below that speed on landing. It's extremely rare to see it in any GA aircraft, but in RC models I'd say it's a lot more common than one would think simply because of manufacturing variations or a lack of washout in the design, defects or damage that caused a warped wing, and the fact that anyone can buy a high strung swept wing jet or a highly tapered wing for about the same price as a good trainer. My guess is that's probably why you've got GA pilots saying that tip stalls don't exist and RC guys who think everything is a tip stall...their experiences, their flying, and the aircraft in question are vastly different between the two.
@savannahaeroconceptstt
@savannahaeroconceptstt Жыл бұрын
Very informative!
@toolbaggers
@toolbaggers Жыл бұрын
I've never seen a 40 year old foamie before , but i've also never seen a 40 year old iPhone either. There is no way you can get something like the 64mm EDF Rafael from FMS out of balsa.
@JohnVHRC
@JohnVHRC Жыл бұрын
Another one, well done!
@Gouranga_Man
@Gouranga_Man Жыл бұрын
I knew none of this. Learned new things. My entire knowledge of RC planes and general model aircraft come from a gadget store RC and building a balsa wood elaccy band plane (throw and recover thing). This was a random KZbin recommendation.
@StackableGoldMC
@StackableGoldMC Жыл бұрын
1:33 UUhh What Have they done to these 172s! They didn't deserve that.
@sirtoast1545
@sirtoast1545 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for telling me this, i was flying drone with the wrong antenna, dad said punch it, fpv cut out aaaaaaaaaand off with the wind
@earthsciteach
@earthsciteach Жыл бұрын
I agree with everything in this video except for the shade thrown at Flite Test. The misuse of "tip stall" is one of my pet peeves. The plane didn't tip stall, you failed to fly it within its operational envelope.
@lodisish
@lodisish 8 ай бұрын
I would not kill my engine on a giant scale for practicing, but you can practice stalls at high altitude to understand how your plane reacts. It's indeed a great training. If you get an engine failure, there is very little time to react and you do not have the time to think, so it must be a reflex.
@TailHeavyProductions
@TailHeavyProductions 8 ай бұрын
We didn't mean literally killing your engine to clarify - I simulate a loss of thrust on takeoff with my full-scale students by pulling the power to idle during climb-out. This is to build the reflex. The more I do this with a student, the quicker their instinct becomes to unload the wing the second they know the engine is done.
@norbert.kiszka
@norbert.kiszka Жыл бұрын
For slow planes should always be rectangular wings. Not matter if its RC or manned plane. If plane is very slow and flying close to stall, then its split second to make crash due to "not planned" roll.
@JimboJette
@JimboJette Жыл бұрын
Really glad I found this channel. I want to get into this hobby but when it comes to pnp planes would an 80 dollar transmitter work or am I stuck with horizons 350 dollar ones lol
@TailHeavyProductions
@TailHeavyProductions Жыл бұрын
Welcome to the channel! You do get what you pay for - I'll leave it at that. 👍
@JimboJette
@JimboJette Жыл бұрын
@@TailHeavyProductions thanks for the response, I’m probably going to start out with a RTF apprentice with floats. It’s all water in the keys no room for a strip 🤣
@austinlangley4539
@austinlangley4539 Жыл бұрын
Yessss another upload
@Hugocraft
@Hugocraft Жыл бұрын
What I think about crashes, its 1 or more of these is limitations is exceeded: pilot , aircraft, environment/weather. Every crash I see its 1 or more of those.
@TailHeavyProductions
@TailHeavyProductions Жыл бұрын
That's just most of what the FAA wants you to know (you covered PAVE minus external pressures). 😁 We're going big picture with RC. 👍
@punkrawk89
@punkrawk89 Жыл бұрын
Good stuff!
@PghGameFix
@PghGameFix Жыл бұрын
Good vid. I may be able to shed light on the "Foamy" thing. I've been playing with RC since the late 70's. Back in the day... the only foam we had was the expanded bead stuff. It was heavy and weak. I remember getting a Sig MK2 with the foam wing, and it was horrible. Hobby Shack sold some foam models too.... and they were all bad. Not to mention, the epoxy would break free, and engines would come loose, and landing gear would rip out every few flights. So... there are a lot of "Old Timers" who just have a hate for it. But now... those little electric foam planes fly great !! and for the price... you can't beat them. But there will always be haters. AND.... since you don't seem too old... as and FYI... did you know... the Concept 30 Heli from Kyosho originally had foam rotor blades?? They were a god send back then. If you flew early heli's... you had to build blades from wood... but those premolded, balanced blades were great.
@henryolson7061
@henryolson7061 Жыл бұрын
i’m an RC crawler guy, and i had no idea Kyosho also made helicopters!
@Random4RC
@Random4RC Жыл бұрын
First thing I do with a new plane after trimming is take it up to altitude and stall it in various ways to get a feel for it's limitations.
@TailHeavyProductions
@TailHeavyProductions Жыл бұрын
That's definitely a great technique!
@smugfrog8111
@smugfrog8111 4 ай бұрын
I'd defiantly be down to try a balsa plane, but they don't really make em' in the style I like. Cessna's and Pipers don't do anything to peak my interest. I'm sort of only into scale military jets / EDFs, and really only American ones. Like, MiGs don't interest me at all, but F-15s do... I'd rock a Gripen or M2000 as well. Some Warbirds are cool too but I don't have any. I do want a PBY or a Liberator.. Actually, I really want an E3 Sentry but no one makes one, or even a 707 that I've seen for that matter. Building them from scratch well beyond my skills as a craftsmen. I can glue a foam wing back on, but getting all those parts cut and shaped perfectly? Forget it. Also, my weird RC quark that I've just sort of embraced at this point is that I can only fly FPV with fixed wing. People are often mind blown by that. That's how I learned and it's all I know. I even had one older guy tell me that I should flat out "quit the hobby if that's how I felt" He was actually genuinely offended by it and I mean red in the face, enraged by it. Spitting as he screamed at me levels of mad. I told him as passive aggressively as I could to "quit the hobby if he didn't like it." Ever seen someone have a cognitive malfunction and start twitching from rage? That's what this guy did. I could tell he wanted to get physical but I had several inches and about 40 lbs on him as well as a gun so it's really good he didn't. He said something about me having no respect for HIS hobby (yes, he said HIS with emphasis) and stormed off, throwing a his transmitter into the ground as he stomped off in a hissy fit. To their credit, the other guys there actually apologized on his behalf. They looked embarrassed and I got the impression it was a regular occurrence with that dude but I didn't really stick around long after that to find out and I never went back. All I had at the time was my Heewing T1 Ranger and no, I did not crash or hit anything, nor was I unsafe in anyway. I didn't fly too far away, or too high. No one else had any issue. He was just being a prick. I had half a mind to wait outside the area for him to go up and use my FPV system to ram him head on at full speed and splash his fancy scratch build. (it was a P40, and it was gorgeous to his credit) I didn't, but I seriously considered it.
@harleyme3163
@harleyme3163 Жыл бұрын
the only dif really between foam and balsa is strenth,, I could stand on the dehaviland manchester wing one guy built in 1/4 scale... it had 4 real 9 cylinder radial engine that cost him almost $4000 a piece. that spruce layered balsa plywood is really frigin strong
@tif2247
@tif2247 Жыл бұрын
No one in my drone class (Pt 107 commercial rating) pinches, not even the teacher. My classmates are some of the best pilots I have ever seen.
@TailHeavyProductions
@TailHeavyProductions Жыл бұрын
Give it a try! Some of the best pilots in the world do it, and some of the best don’t do it. It’s ultimately just a technique. Lots of drone racing folks swear by it.
@rlbutterfield
@rlbutterfield Жыл бұрын
Good explanation!
@killer13324
@killer13324 Жыл бұрын
any good cheap RC planes that you recommend for starters?
@IFlyMillennium
@IFlyMillennium Жыл бұрын
Very nice round out of rc myths, I'm happy to see you guys being disruptive, which is what this hobby needs! Thanks for posting this content! Happy flights! ✈
@TailHeavyProductions
@TailHeavyProductions Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@ohioflyer_12
@ohioflyer_12 Жыл бұрын
power off 180s are practical and practiced
@patrickradcliffe3837
@patrickradcliffe3837 Жыл бұрын
Using the wrong term for what really happens. 6:09 I have a almost twenty year Sky Scooter don't bash foam's longevity if taken care of.
@freemansfocus
@freemansfocus Жыл бұрын
😲 Great info!
@natejmedia
@natejmedia Жыл бұрын
Great video!!!!
@wm8123
@wm8123 Жыл бұрын
LOVE IT :D
@stoneagearcher3477
@stoneagearcher3477 Жыл бұрын
I have been flying professionally for 23 years. Guess how many times I heard the term “tip stall” used? ZERO!
@TailHeavyProductions
@TailHeavyProductions Жыл бұрын
Exactly. However - they do exist (but are rarely diagnosed properly). It took them being misused in RC for the term to even come to light in the first place within the model aviation niche. We’ll be addressing it fully in a future video with an aero engineer buddy. 👍
@stoneagearcher3477
@stoneagearcher3477 Жыл бұрын
@@TailHeavyProductions I totally agree with you. The term is being used by people who don’t fully understand what they are talking about. As a real pilot we try to avoid any stall!
@TailHeavyProductions
@TailHeavyProductions Жыл бұрын
@@stoneagearcher3477 Thanks, yep, just takes a little learning is all! As a fellow full-scale pilot both professionally and for leisure: RC pilots *are* real pilots. 😁They just don't fly full scale airplanes.
@RCPlaneenthusiast
@RCPlaneenthusiast Жыл бұрын
hey tail heavy, can you do a vlog on you full-scale flying?
@TailHeavyProductions
@TailHeavyProductions Жыл бұрын
That's definitely something we could throw together - anything specific you're wanting to see?
@RCPlaneenthusiast
@RCPlaneenthusiast Жыл бұрын
@@TailHeavyProductions maybe how to do traffic patterns in Rc and full scale and stuff like that
@TheKittyClink
@TheKittyClink Жыл бұрын
I'm an actual pilot, and I do enjoy me some RC sometimes. There are alot od pilots both RC and actual who are fill of it. Let me tell ya
@bkpickell
@bkpickell Жыл бұрын
"Don't let your crashes make you think you're a bad pilot" Oh there's no mistake. I'm a bad pilot. Out of ten attempts, the longest any of my planes have stayed in the air is 15 seconds. I've destroyed 3 planes. I just built my 4th and am terrified to fly it.
@warbuzzard7167
@warbuzzard7167 Жыл бұрын
Keep Your Speed Up In Turns. Also: If you are flying in an heavy downwind, when you make your 180 degree approach turn, THROTTLE UP!!! Don't dip the inboard wing too much; the coming breeze will want to yank the plane over into an inverted condition. KEEP YOUR SPEED UP IN TURNS! Especially in approach turns.
@TailHeavyProductions
@TailHeavyProductions Жыл бұрын
Good tips! Food for thought. Not overly loading up the wing is what keeps one or both wings from exceeding their critical angle of attack in any phase of flight and at any speed, including slower turns on base to final. Stay tuned for one of our upcoming videos where we fly our 25-pound 1/5 scale P-47 in a confined area flying it on the backside of the power curve and at slow speeds in turns on base to final over tall trees. No bites. A safe angle of attack is what keeps a wing flying - not speed. 👍
@googleyoutubechannel8554
@googleyoutubechannel8554 Жыл бұрын
EVA foamies vs balsa? La dee da, look at all these fancy plonkers that can afford premium polymers and rare hardwoods*, some of us have to make do with dollar tree polystyrene board and electronics pulled from $20 throw-away drones. (*yes, it is, look it up...)
@SpaceFlamingo07
@SpaceFlamingo07 Жыл бұрын
Of course, if your like me, and you throw something together with nothing but foamboard, tape, and a 5 below helicopter, its gonna crash, just depends on whether its into a tree or into the ground.
@OneHappyCrazyPerson
@OneHappyCrazyPerson 9 ай бұрын
As a new pilot No pinch or Thumb for me, i BuMp the sticks. Based on my flights so far, iam a unintentional 3D pilot.
@superdon1chw
@superdon1chw Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@Not_So_Weird_in_Austin
@Not_So_Weird_in_Austin 4 ай бұрын
No one is coming It's up to you.... to improve
@markpritchard4447
@markpritchard4447 Жыл бұрын
You will lose precious time after an engine failure due to reaction time and fully understanding the situation. Try after 5 seconds in your Luscombe and see the difference.
@TailHeavyProductions
@TailHeavyProductions Жыл бұрын
You sure will! However, the more you brief it and practice it, the shorter the reaction time becomes. This has been proven. Good friend of ours survived a total power loss at 500 feet and another friend at 700 feet. Both regularly practiced these at altitude and briefed their minimum floor before departing.
@BlackCatRedScarf
@BlackCatRedScarf Жыл бұрын
You'll crash when you're a beginner. You'll be less prone to crash when you are experienced and stick to a routine of safety procedures, tests and checklists every flight session. You will not crash only if you don't fly.
@diprosla592
@diprosla592 Жыл бұрын
I am more experienced rc pilot and i wana build BALZA P51 with only 3x servo (rudder, elevator, ailerons), fixed gear. What size i should go for? And what proppeler should i use? I HAVE build only two planes on control wires
@TailHeavyProductions
@TailHeavyProductions Жыл бұрын
I wish we could help you but if there's one thing we suck at, it's scratch building...ESPECIALLY scratch building balsa. Our full-scale sized plane build video should be enough proof of that. ☠😁 The FliteTest and/or RCGroups forums may be your best bet - or any number of RC related Facebook groups. Good luck!
@diprosla592
@diprosla592 Жыл бұрын
@@TailHeavyProductions maybe i can try to do first experimental model from thin 0.5mm foam?
@TentoesMe
@TentoesMe Жыл бұрын
And don't forget to check your controls before takeoff. Always remember to plug in your aileron servos. Ok, guess who forgot both😥
@stejer211
@stejer211 Жыл бұрын
Checking they are moving in the correct direction will also help.
@12345fowler
@12345fowler 10 ай бұрын
I am not convinced discussions about "tip" stalls vs "regular" stalls vs "accelerated" stalls are really worth. There are all stalls in a way or another, leading most probably to a temporary loss of control and loss of height (gravity). What should matter is that you should avoid them at all cost. For the tip stall scenario, this is the reason wings are build sometime with "washout" angle (=less angle at the tip vs at the root) so that in theory when you come to stall speed the root wing would stall first and leave you with some control at the ailerons, which would not be stalled because of the washout angle in the wing) and thus helping you still control your plane in a stall situation. I see this discussion more relevant in a near-stall scenario because the washout angle is usually small and it would not be easy to surf on that sweet spot where only your wing root would be stalled but not your tips.
@TailHeavyProductions
@TailHeavyProductions 10 ай бұрын
Stay tuned! This week's video is on all the topics you just mentioned. 😁
@12345fowler
@12345fowler 10 ай бұрын
Enough with the teaser, just do it ! (Just kidding, your audience loves you) I offer you another consideration : In case of wing with washout, there would not be a tip stall scenario,because at the angle the tip would be at in order to be stalled, the other part of the wing would be stalled already long before that point. So if half of your wing is already stalled before the tip does, I guess it can still be called a "tip stall" but it would be a moot point. Another way of discussing tip stall is considering that a stall is usually a local phenomena, before it extend progressively to the whole wing as the angle of attack increase slowy. When the airlflow start to seperate locally on the wing, it may or may not start at the tip (not the case of wing with washout) but could also start anywhere along the span of the wing. If it would happen at mid-span, you wouldn't invent a seperate term to describe it (like a half-span stall). So the conclusion of all that is that it is ridiculous to use the word "tip stall" it is just a localized stall as it could have started anywhere else on the wing and so it is just a regular stall (in progress). @@TailHeavyProductions
@TailHeavyProductions
@TailHeavyProductions 10 ай бұрын
Tip stalls generally occur on tapered and swept wings. Otherwise, they are more than likely just an asymmetric stall. Video goes live Saturday!
@athenovae
@athenovae 9 ай бұрын
Do anything you want except use active rudder and not mix 😂
@lw216316
@lw216316 Жыл бұрын
I heard about someone who was testing and giving real world results about C ratings on rc batteries. However, I think he was only doing so for 6 cell batteries or larger. Is that the Joe you are talking about?
@propguyaviation6985
@propguyaviation6985 Жыл бұрын
hi
@davidwatkin1484
@davidwatkin1484 11 ай бұрын
👽👽👽👽👽👽👽👽👽 Ever seen a 40 year old foamy? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@sendit_rc
@sendit_rc Жыл бұрын
Make a video,when pilot fatigue is called reverse thrust 🤣
@billclark5943
@billclark5943 Жыл бұрын
From my experience tip stall means you're flying an overloaded pig. Get rid of that bling and 8 min pack and she'll behave much better. My daily is a piece of foam. Nothing flies better. Ive been flying pretty regular for the last 18 years. Started with helis when lipos hit the scene circa 2004 but fixed wing exclusively for the last 11-12 years . The helis created and unusual style on the sticks for me. Pinch with the left (collective) and thumb with the right. I am blind in my left eye and the right side is the dominant side of my body. I guess I'm just weird
@billieguitar
@billieguitar Жыл бұрын
I have 15 hours playtime on an android phone plane simulator and im here to teach all of you. /s
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