Running The Fantom 4WD Beauty By Kyosho After Upgrades. (Amazing RC Pan Car To Drive) Kit 30635B

[@duchess4504]

The additional transparent rear wing spoiler is absolutely awsome! You're an absolute genius! Keep up with the great content Gavin.

[@RCKickschannel]

Thanks thats most kind.

[@DArealCHAZZ]

I'll tell you I used to hate the look of them cars when I was a kid. But in my late twenties I started appreciating the look lol. I think I really need to get one for my collection. Nice car

[@RCKickschannel]

You can still get the Kyosho Fantom in the UK currently but the US is having issues with kit availability.

[@DArealCHAZZ]

@@RCKickschannel yeah I live in the US and we are having problems lol. I was looking at the new Mustang from Tamiya it's a nice car too. We got a few new Tamiya kits at local hobby shop. But local hobby shop is outrageously expensive. Anyways it's a very sharp looking car and the upgrades you have planned for it sounds great can't wait have a great day and don't let off the throttle

[@jcassidy7752]

They remind me of Porsche 956/962s :)

[@Matt-il8zz]

I had the nitro version of this - Kyosho Spada 09. It was difficult to tune but a rocket ship 🚀 when it was running sweet.

[@PopalongRC]

What a great looking car... I have a 1/12 pan car that I run a few times ... they are great on the track and they are sooooo planted.. great for racing

[@dontbotheruncledanny3913]

Cool car 👍👍👍👍

[@mattiasrc]

Thats a lovely car.

[@mikeqendro9601]

Wow, a quick little bugger.

[@n22pdf]

Love this car great vid and upgrades 😀😀👍

[@camrowdrone6497]

Great upgrades, just watched R C Australia with your new car looks nice 👍🏻

[@c.k.hobbyshop3351]

Nice work well done love the chain ⛓drive

[@TheGetintoit]

Vary nice.

[@joneaton3366]

To add a better dimension to the running section of the video you need to set up cones, I use the flat football ones

[@RCKickschannel]

I need a track

[@hondofourfivetwo9347]

Back when I raced pan cars I always left the wing clear having it painted just ruined the look of the body IMO but I wasn’t willing to sacrifice performance for looks so I had to run the wing 🤷‍♂️ Probably not allowed anymore I know it currently isn’t in F1 but we used to run “rollover antennas” basically a solid fiberglass antenna rod you wrapped the antenna wire around if you flipped the car onto it’s lid the flexible fiberglass antenna would bend and flip the chassis right side up (usually)

[@tahustvedt]

You need to find a carpet track for all these pan and f1 cars. Skidding around in a street is quite pointless with these. :)

[@gfdtjkitsxn7775]

What part of the uk are you in because im hoping to organise some carpark racing once lockdown is eased

[@TeriWilde]

Biggleswade I think...

[@Chunky246]

Spoke to a few dealers, struggling with Kyosho stock in the UK at the moment - not just the pandemic... but Brexit....

[@metronum]

France here, plenty of stock but hella pricey tho >> 25€ for a pair of wheels >> last one go on tarmac 0_o

[@Cappra414VG]

Love the Fantom Videos mate. Would you say that the new (ish) Kyosho le mans 480T motor would be good in the car ?

[@davidlavergnelacasse2356]

The only Kyosho I collect the engines is the Kyosho Espo Larousse f1 and the Ferrari . 049 nitro powered Much more realistic extremely difficult to find like the fantom body is a beauty i love pan car

[@mikeupton5406]

Yes, Kyosho has gainwd a modern day rep for not keeping up with spare and upgrade parts. Late 80s early 90s here in the States the local shops would have bargain bins full of Kyosho parts because they weren't selling. Too many parts. I wonder if this was a factor in the scarce parts now. Kyosho parts were pretty spotty even with these re-res coming out.

[@addz17]

Why does this have no suspension? Is it not constantly struggling for grip on all but the smoothest of surfaces?

[@brucelevall7663]

Gavin got a question for you has tamiya said anything thing about when they are rereleaseing the egress and the price cause where I live in the United States it is saying 822.00 dollars is this right?

[@RCKickschannel]

UK is around 1st Aug 2021 for the Egress reissue. I hope it doesn't slip due to shipping logistic issues.

[@joneaton3366]

Very cool kit. Y would you stop driving it, just stock up on spares mine never get retired (or do I have too many that they never get worn out)

[@chriswhite6952]

Question Gavin I have Fantom with 15 turn Brushed Motor Running 1060 HobbyWing ESC and 7.4V LIPO when I down the power it wheelies or flips over would wing help or flip it more?

[@RCKickschannel]

Add some wheel weights to the front of the chassis to keep the nose down

[@mikeymike3240]

Or a slower motor lol 😂

[@darthnagus5457]

Where did you get the tool to drill the holes?

[@RCKickschannel]

I got it as a gift but you can get them on eBay

[@plethman3669]

The wing holes in the body needs to be made larger, about 1/2 inch in size. The rear suspension can not move independent of the body. The rear needs to be free and floating to work best.

[@RCKickschannel]

The Fantom doesn’t have any suspension

[@plethman3669]

@@RCKickschannel So what is that springy thing with the plunger between the rear pod and chassis for? The rear is supposed to flex and move to transfer weight.

[@anthonymiller8979]

@@plethman3669 That is the Fantom CRC II it does have a single damper rear suspension and a tiny bit of front suspension. This car looks nearly identical to that one but has no suspension at all

[@plethman3669]

@@anthonymiller8979 The flexing of the chassis is the suspension, it has to flex to work right or as designed. Look at real go-karts it's the flex of the chassis that makes them work. Next think about the air of the wing. It needs at least a .25 in gap under the wing. The flat of the wing should match or be parallel the body under it. Go look on page 21 of the manual and it details the size and shape of the holes for the rear body mount that is required. You did not follow the instructions and the rear suspension can not work correctly and will damage the body. It should be the same for the wing right? I know you will never do anything with the car besides dust it off and the wing wires and body mounts will never get a chance to damage the body because it is a shelf queen but it still should be built right. You still don't know how the car really handles because the suspension wasn't working as designed.

[@anthonymiller8979]

@@plethman3669 Good points but I am not the builder, I was just commenting that there is a version of the car with real single damper rear suspension, and I thought that is what you were referring to with the word suspension when you mentioned the "springy thing with the plunger" which this version of the car does not have. I agree that even on this more rigid version with no damper the instructions do require a 6mm hole for the wing mounting wires.

[@johnlang2641]

The Kyosho ESC and Le Mans Motor support 3S LiPos. Did you run it with 2S or 3S? Just mentioning because you said that it is not fast enough with the Kosho Motor.

[@metronum]

I ran a 2S with 4.5t on it>>> forget about it>>> runs okay but u can tell the whole things wants to blow and u only have breaks on the rear wheels so its barely handleable ^^

[@johnlang2641]

@@metronum This wasn't my point. Of course is a 4.5t brushless motor by far too much for this car. My point was that the 21.5t Kyosho motor needs a 3s lipo to bring the car to sufficient speed.

[@metronum]

@@johnlang2641 Ohh. I see. I ran 2s with a 13.5t and it was perfect, just sharing.

[@johnlang2641]

@@metronum Thanks you, yes that combination makes sense imho.

[@metronum]

@@johnlang2641 especially when it comes to space, not sure u can fit a 3S in there

[@mattmclafferty6265]

Nice video, Cheers. Any word on Falcon release date? Cheers, Gauranga.

[@RCKickschannel]

Hi Matt, I have my fingers crossed for an announcement in May-June with a release Sep-Oct. I don't have anything solid on announcement date over it was going to be late in the year. The reason I hope for May-June is that's when the next hobby fair in Japan was going to be before it was canceled. It makes sense that Tamiya was planning on putting out a few releases at the hobby show, so I hope thats when the Falcon announcement was planned. The only solid info I have been told is the Falcon is coming in late 2021.

[@mattmclafferty6265]

@@RCKickschannel makes sense. Thanks for reply and great channel. Gauranga 💪😊

[@ragsixracing]

It's kind of cool seeing a 1/12 race car drifting... They are not supposed to do that lol

[@RCKickschannel]

Shows you how little grip was out on the street even with foam tyres. It was super cold.

[@chuongnguyen3230]

can it fits a hobbywing max 10?

[@RCKickschannel]

I'm not sure but no way will it fit with the fan.

[@chuongnguyen3230]

@@RCKickschannel Thanks a lot mate btw hello from Vietnam

[@alfredyost7972]

Hi Gavin, I did order the Carbon parts that you recommend. The parts look nice and they were cheap. I have not yet built my Kyosho Fantom kit. I have a new body and new set of tires. I also ordered and got all of the Kyosho parts except the wing. I was not sure where it goes. Now that I see it, I think that I will not get it. I just do not like it. I was able to order all of my parts through Kyosho USA. I found the parts easy to get. Maybe that is because Kyosho is in California which is where I happen to live. The interesting thing is that I had a hard to buying the car. I could not get it here in California. Kyosho USA did not have it but they had the parts. Go figure. Thoughts?

[@RCKickschannel]

LOL we had the exact opposite. The car is easy to get but the upgrades and other parts are impossible to get due to no stock.

[@alfredyost7972]

@@RCKickschannel You are right, that is funny. I even had an easy time getting the Kyosho ESC and the Kyosho green brushless motor.

[@mikeymike3240]

Hi Gavin, why not just buy another kit, make that the shelf queen and run the first one till yer heart’s content.

[@RCKickschannel]

It’s almost worth it

[@bravo0105]

Still no Kyosho Fantom, here. AMERICA LAST! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

[@RCKickschannel]

I hear Kyosho US has the upgrades and parts for sale so grab them while you can.

[@bravo0105]

If I buy the upgrades and parts, now, that’ll assure that I NEVER get a chance to buy the kit. That’s my luck for the most part. I also lack a good on-road track so upgrades would be wasted on me even if I had the kit.

[@mclovin583]

I really should buy a reamer.

[@garymurphy5133]

Covid aside, getting upgrade parts in the UK is a joke. Traxxas parts are prob the easiest to get. Tamiya hit and miss. Its when you get to after market stuff in the UK ! i made the mistake of getting a SMT10 with intensions of going made with upgrades. was lucky to buy a set of wheels and tyres here! had last set,grave digger body ,4 months. susspention parts have to order from overseas,ont do that any more. the UK is so miniscule that its not worth the effort to trade here on this hobby.

[@RCKickschannel]

Yep the UK doesn't demand that much market attention from the US companies as like you say, it's just super small. You can see it in UK released dates being so long after US releases.