RCT2 Ride Overview - Mini Golf

In this video we discuss the very interesting ride that is the mini golf!
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[@MarcelVos]

I tried something new with the background music in this video. Do you like it? Why or why not?

[@Penoatle]

I like it. It does not distract from what you are saying and adds 1.50 Excitement to the video.

[@jimmylilyjohn]

I think it fit perfectly for gentle rides like in this case: mini golf, and it’s the in game music 😌

[@fbrassard70]

It adds to the excitement rating while actually lowering the intensity value, so it definitively has its usea

[@JonnyTheRWBYDude2004]

Hell yea, it makes review videos more original

[@MaxArceus]

Very pleasant

[@XxpentxX]

"I've waited for a while for Mini Golf 1" *Guest spontaneously explodes* "Mini Golf 1 looks too intense for me"

[@JonnyTheRWBYDude2004]

Queue Line for Mini Golf 1 looks too intense for me

[@RainingMetal]

I'm not going on Mini Golf 1: It's not safe.

[@JonnyTheRWBYDude2004]

@@RainingMetal mini golf 1 has crashed! One guests (bruh it should say guest) has died on mini golf 1

[@ruediix]

Sadly, exploding guests don't add to intensity value. I think they add to some other hidden stats, though. I forget what guests say though, about those stats.

[@DaVince21]

@@JonnyTheRWBYDude2004 Someone should make a ride mod that's just guests waiting in a queue and exploding at the end of it.

[@burritoman2k]

The mini-golf course with absolutely no holes being more expensive to maintain than the massive roller coaster is pretty funny

[@emeraldgreenz]

Guests try to make their own holes smh

[@Aereto]

Must be the groundskeeper and greening costs...

[@aaronying4989]

That makes no sense at all!! Lol why

[@spencerneilan5040]

Personal expenditures for the groundskeeper

[@runescapefan0001]

It's because the guests keep stealing the putters and golf balls lol

[@OrigamiPhoenix]

In real life, mini golfs are profitable because of their low upkeep and operating costs, plus being relatively safe. Most of their running cost comes from water features and electronic scenery, plus the staff, but RCT1&2 does not have that. Chris Sawyer obviously hated them.

[@Sjokola]

You're probably paying for the person in the entrance booth and for someone to come a swipe clean the courts once every 5 times you're not looking at it :)

[@hiperalee]

Makes you wonder if OpenRCT shouldn't just slash the costs

[@OrigamiPhoenix]

@@hiperalee OpenRCT2 has extensions/add-ons now, so it would be quite plausible to make one that rebalances ride operating costs to be more in line with their real world counterparts.

[@DaVince21]

@@OrigamiPhoenix Oh man, a mod that includes the fancier features from actual mini-golf courses would be great!

[@Tustin2121]

DaVince21 - This, times 100! I want a mod that will add more hole types, include one with a requisite spinning windmill. Hopefully the pathing of the golfer and ball is easy to add to.

[@emsouemsou]

1:45 the reason it's expensive is they need to keep lining the track with C4 to make sure guests stay on the path

[@Aereto]

Forget C4. That place is lined in concentrated nitroglycerine. One step, shock detonation.

[@itzamna3080]

Yeah, C4 is way too stable for what we see there. Marcel got right.

[@TJAW17]

Real Mini-Golf - Low running cost, quick, safe RCT Mini-Golf - High running cost, , slow, guests can explode

[@smitias_8474]

"How did your son died?" "He stept on the lawn while playing mini golf. Who knew groundskeeper was deranged enough to put mines there."

[@dgamezonu2693]

Going out with a bang.

[@ElectriKong-]

@Bryce Pruitt should have not given the job to Fun Spot Kissimmee then.

[@DanVibesTV]

That is what really happens when you don't care about the "Don't walk on the grass" - sign.

[@kenik2023]

I want you to kill every golpher on the course... Excuse me but...if I kill all the golfers...they'll lock me up and throw away the key.... 🤣😂😅

[@NEEDbacon]

God the idea that groundskeepers are utter psychos putting landmines in the grass to keep folks off is so amusing to me. I'm just imagining one with a broom in one hand, a mine in the other screaming towards the sky.

[@MrPeanut624]

"Oops, looks like there's no path to get to the exit. I guess I'll explode now."

[@Lundarian1]

Figures that even in minigolf, you are not safe from spontaneous combustion.

[@firstname7606]

It's just the way if life

[@johnfoltz8183]

I'm not going on Mini Golf 1. It isn't safe.

[@James-eg3fr]

BECAUSE THE TRACK IS NOT FINISHED! KEKW xDDDDD

[@StanleyDarsh22]

i just can't stop laughing at the guests walking an empty mini golf ride with no holes, AND the ones waiting in line to do the same thing lmao

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

minigolf with no holes, also known as paid lawn

[@joshualuigi220]

"filled to the brim with nitroglycerin" 😆

[@Marsaw]

“Welcome to Mini Golf 1! Here’s your golf club, your golf ball, and your golf vest!” “Uh, what’s the vest for?” “It explodes if you step off the course! We’ll take it off for you once you return your club and ball at the exit! Have fun!”

[@Aereto]

*click, bee-*

[@607]

Great explanation. :D

[@BrutusAlbion]

so that's where the small amount of excitement and intensity comes from ... minigolf is otherwise a giant snooze

[@LaserBread]

You stepped off the course *TEST FAILED*

[@BrutusAlbion]

@@LaserBread KABOOOOOOM!

[@Megatog615]

"No staff challenge" was how every kid played this game on release in the 90's.

[@Jalor218]

Either that or stocking the park with 50 panda entertainers and nothing else.

[@pierreo33]

Failing every scenario was the only way to play

[@BinaryHedgehog1]

Making a mini golf explode is always beautiful. It also can lead to really strange things, at least when I tried it. I’ve had issues with guests just propelling themselves 20 feet before they have the decency to blow up.

[@jvccr7533]

Human Bouncing Betties!

[@MasterCrash123]

"Before they have the decency to blow up." XD

[@craigauclair4026]

😅😅😅

[@ENCHANTMEN_]

The expenses are due to the cost of lining the course with claymore mines in case a guest steps off of it

[@disastertruck]

What must it be like to exist as an RCT peep? "Oh man 32 of the same incredible easy mini golf hole I AM THRILLED RIGHT NOW"

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

the excitement obviously comes from the fact that nobody knows which guest will explode next.

[@ohjajaja]

When you look at today's video game designs it kinda feels like they got the peeps right.

[@Lopsidationy]

Since the Mini Golf can't break down, it's one of the few rides you can use to endlessly propel guests into the void in scenarios with free rides and a park admission fee. (By making the exit lead into the underground, as seen in Marcel's video on how to kill guests without losing park rating.)

[@joehoul]

I like to imagine the guy one hole back on the minigolf course looking up, going, "Oh my god...I'm gonna die..." then finishing his putt and walking towards the end of the path.

[@jeffreywoosley960]

"I suspect they use gold balls made of real diamond and the guests keep losing them." I lost it right there and nearly choked on my breakfast! Love your sense of humor!

[@zootycoon45]

About ride designs, if you decide to build a mini golf, i would suggest to put a difficult hole like D or E at the start. If you start with hole A, and put D or E as second hole, guests will have to wait extremely long for that one hole, while they keep getting in if hole A is cleared. So its possible to get 20 guests waiting for hole D while the rest of the track is empty. Resulting in angry guests. However, if you build a hole D or E as first hole, the next guest can only enter when it is cleared. When putting hole A or B as second hole, you wont get a lot of guests waiting at that hole. guests in the waiting line can turn around an go elswhere, guests trapped on the minigolf cant turn around, and keep getting mad and mad. Is there anything you can find about this? I always found this problem occur in my minigolf rides, and had to double close the ride to empty it, and reopen the ride, or swap the holes setting the difficult ones first.

[@hhaavvvvii]

Lulz that the best design in real life is the worst design in game.

[@0106johnny]

@@hhaavvvvii To be fair, in real life this design often leads to build up, too. It is only the best because people want to get increasing difficulty, but it can be annoying on very full tracks.

[@MrJonnyharry]

I found the easiest thing to do was just omit D and E altogether from my designs, although I always felt that doing that was cheating somehow

[@DrewtheMew]

If the game is emulating reality, the upkeep costs are high from all the clubs and balls ending up in the nearby artificial pond...

[@TheAdditionalPylons]

Mini Golf with no holes is a path that guests will be slightly excited to walk on

[@CasualGamer11]

lol at the short observation tower and long ass queue "that's it?"

[@Kristanni20X6]

"When do we get to the ride?" "This is the ride. YIPEE!"

[@alphamikeomega5728]

1:57

[@MrAgility888]

Really happy you made another ride overview. I missed these!

[@sextonhardcastle8696]

I’m absolutely loaded and completely invested in this video about mini-golf on a 20 year old game.

[@MechMK1]

I believe that the high cost of the minigolf course, mixed with the weird scaling, means that the high base cost of $265.60 was actually supposed to be $26.56. That way, the big minigolf course would actually cost $49, which is very reasonable scaling.

[@reillywalker195]

That'd be a fix worth making in OpenRCT2.

[@Cloudnab]

omg i remember as a kid playing this game until now, i have never even knew what it’s called or ever had any memories of it! thanks for the nostalgia

[@techpriestsalok8119]

Honestly I think the chances of the issue being that the base upkeep was accidentally multiplied by ten at some point is fairly high. If the base cost was meant to be $25-26 then the cost for a no hole course would be about $30 and a 31 hole course around $60

[@SendyTheEndless]

2:21 Nice airtime hills towards the end of that layout!

[@malteha5036]

Although bad rides like this do not make sense in a scenario, it is important to have them for asthetic purposes. It is boring to min/max all the time. Every scenario is easy if you spam Tiny Corkscrew Coasters or abuse other game mechanics for an easy win. Great vid!

[@MarcelVos]

I 100% agree, which is why I emphasized that it can look really great. That's also why I think that OpenRCT2 shouldn't buff the Heartline's stats as the coaster being as bad as it is gives some flavor to the game.

[@coopaloopvt]

The once scenario I can think of is getting people off paths and in a queue line to limit the “this park is too crowded” complaints. But other rides are probably better for that than mini golf

[@pulsar-22]

@@MarcelVos Top level players build realistic (mimic real life coasters) and esthetically pleasing parks. This theorical numbers game bullshit is lame imo.

[@Bobdd0]

Back when i was in elementary school, I loved making mini golf courses, i'd make them convoluted, overly large, and looking at the stats you've shown, horrifically unoptimized! But gosh darn did I love the way they looked! Also, Your video style is really really solid, and the way you are refining it is promising! great stuff :D

[@kansasistheman9289]

I still would like to know if excitement is affected with nearby scenery, tunnels, overhead paths etc

[@MarcelVos]

It certainly is! I'm not sure how much it gets compared to most coaster types, but it certainly gets some extra excitement.

[@ImSquiggs]

This was always one of my favourite attractions! I just love the little shapes and watching them putt the balls. This has my vote for "most visually appealing attraction", although I'm sure someone can come up with some good contenders in a game this beautiful

[@MrShoward73]

I didn’t realise they would explode. Very amusing!

[@maxumusjesus]

To be fair, what did you expect the ride time, operating cost, and volatility for an attraction with a personal teleporter in it?

[@jonjaarsma1456]

I love how polite this guy is.

[@MaxArceus]

Wow! The best rollercoaster in the game, according to the twitch poll!

[@skyiloh7460]

"crumbly woods"

[@TubeCody]

Hahaha

[@CaptainConfuzion]

We all know Candyfloss Stall should've won.

[@MaxArceus]

@@CaptainConfuzion Mini Suspended all the way

[@ronpaz9655]

I just love how you create a whole scene (including other raids, scenery, etc) for merly 2 seconds of video time, it really shows how much you care. Great vid!

[@hibou-cool]

“I suspect that the balls are made of diamonds and they keep losing them” ahaha 👌

[@Trelior]

"Losing" them

[@Gilbals]

If it were feasible to just build "minigolf" sans the golf as a paid walking ride, it could be nice for making haunted castles or something where excitement generated is on theming. All themepark sims, even planet coaster, lack customizable experiences like that, opting only for area theming as opposed to walking through a spooky house (that you made, not a plunk down rabbit hole ride)

[@daanwilmer]

Why not? You should hide one hole somewhere along the track to meet the stat requirement, and maybe the theming does increase excitement.

[@jefffinkbonner9551]

That'd be really cool: essentially a custom haunted house track ride.

[@MickanMansRCTStation]

I'm so happy to see another ride overview video!

[@doktawhawee9870]

I think it's insane how, I have only played about 5 hours of this game, and it never really hooked me, but I still always watch these videos whenever they come out.

[@EoCx1]

Is there an expected performance value for each guest when they play? Is it random? Tied to color of shirt? What are the odds of a guest making 10 straight hole in ones? Great video as always!

[@LTGvideos]

The guest just exploding at the end was hilarious. Very cool to hear about how all these rides are different. The mini golf and the maze were my two favorite rides in RCT2 as a kid.

[@partylikeits1066]

So happy to see another one of these ride overviews!

[@whoeveriam0iam14222]

7:42 that yellow thing on the right is really neat with the hanging cars and the normal cars in sync

[@ViniciusNegrao_]

the mini-golf was one of my favorite rides in RCT1 when I was a kid. I absolutely loved it

[@607]

Very interesting! I love that you left the guests exploding for the end, it's great. :P

[@michaelstone6617]

Downloaded openrct2 as a result of this channel, and am enjoying the game more now than I was 15+ years ago. Thank you Marcel and keep up the good work.

[@michaelclements5793]

This video didn't mention a big problem I've always had with mini-golfs: The D and E (turning) holes are so slow for most guests to complete, that they will create a serious bottleneck while multiple guests back up while waiting for the guest in front of them to complete the hole. This will result in "I want to get off [ride name]" complaints, removes all excitement the ride might give, and can even lower park rating if the problem is bad enough. My recommendation is to use the turning pieces very sparingly, if at all. And if you do use them, then it's better to use them near to the beginning of the course (first or second hole).

[@alexthunder9926]

This channel is one of the reasons i have me regular RTC lifestream. Thanx Marcel

[@JonnyTheRWBYDude2004]

I miss these videos!

[@GuenterErde1]

Marcel, I hope you're doing well. I hope you're enjoying making these videos. I know you posted a while ago about wanting to post other games. I would watch them!

[@bassoskat]

FINALLY the video we’ve all been waiting for; Mini Golf on RCT2. Thank you Mr Vos ;)

[@GeahkBurchill]

Good to see Marcel got a little of his motivation back for RCT videos!

[@Samuel_Hearfield]

Glad to see another ride overview :)

[@dandominare]

Your deadpan delivery of some of the jokes in this video cracked me up, well done.

[@CongaYT]

I'm beginning to suspect it isn't the roller coasters which are filled with explosives at this point, but rather the guests are

[@rrai1999]

Theme parks are experiencing a suicide bomber epidemic in the Rollercoaster Tycoon universe it seems

[@brianmidkiff5408]

This was genuinely very funny! Thanks for the overview, what a weird attraction

[@Mike-iz6li]

I love these kind of videos. :) Also the music is so nostalgic. I go play rtc soon too :) keep it up marcel.

[@CoasterSky]

I’ve never learned so much about one of my childhood avorite games from watching your videos.

[@deemerald3990]

Intensity 10 minigolf when?

[@apb123]

Love your humor thanks for making videos Marcel

[@GretgorPooper]

I cracked up at the explosion in the end, LOOOOL

[@Iamfivebears]

That outro shot was gorgeous

[@JamesTobiasStewart]

Great to see a new Ride Overview.

[@homesquared]

What an EXPLOSIVE ride.

[@DavidFrostbite]

That invisible teleportaion trick is giving me flashbacks from Homestar Runner. Imagine a Sweet Puttin' Cakes theme, where reality is broken and holes are just floating in midair.

[@velvetbutterfly]

Internet: "Touch grass" RCT Guest: "okay" *takes one step and explodes in a colossal ball of fire*

[@cometogether420]

This was pretty entertaining for a mini-golf video :D

[@DDRJake]

I'm highly interested in overviews of the exceptionally crap rides, such as the Water Coaster and River Rafts.

[@pettipasb]

didn't think I'd laugh during this. I laughed alot. great video

[@DarkstarArchangel]

Welcome Back Kotter, this is one of the many reasons why I am watching your channel.

[@DrAnGeber]

I like the Mini Golf Course. It adds a place of "silence" and "relaxing atmosphere" in your park if you do it right

[@reillywalker195]

Conversely, you can use the fact that the mini golf can't break down to make it play music indefinitely.

[@claudetheclaudeqc6600]

@@reillywalker195 *Agressively put 50 mini-golf whit candy style*

[@StadiumsCenter]

Crazy I was had thinking if you were ever going to do a mini golf video yesterday haha

[@AlmostAllegedly]

oh, for those curious, mini-golf’s upkeep is so high in part because of the weird length issue. total length is part of the upkeep formula and mini golf’s multiplier is triple that of most coasters (though obviously zero for things like track count etc.). combine that with the unexpectedly high length and upkeep gets a little bit funky. no sure if that’s the hole story (haha), but still interesting regardless.

[@TmOnlineMapper]

This is one of the videos where I wish you'd have gone over how the excitement rating is calculated. Assuming it's not too complicated. And also a Minigolf with the highest excitement you could achieve, just so I know what's possible

[@robertstegmann9260]

Wouldn't the most optimal design be rather big, since it has a large flat operating cost, but adding new parts doesn't make it much more expensive to run. Since I assume excitement will scale with length, a longer track could charge more. Depending on how it determines the number of guests, it might even be able to break even. As long as it doesn't take 5 minutes for a guest to complete, it might also be good for keeping guests of your paths.

[@cromanticheer]

Possibly. Something I've noticed in scenarios is that sometimes guests on longer minigolf courses will start complaining and want to get off. But maybe if you use every scenery and excitement trick in the book you can sorta make a long course that looks good and is relatively optimized.

[@MsLuckj]

What a beautiful background music!!!! it feels like SIMS bgm!

[@noblevi3623]

glad you're back!

[@xXrebornflamesXx]

Great video! It might not be the most optimal ride in game but I always enjoyed playing mini golf courses when I go on trips and I like to include them for the aesthetic in parks. It's interesting that the missing piece can cause a crash, I thought they'd maybe teleport past a missing piece as they do the incorrect ones.

[@SgtFrogFan]

Love that this is back :D

[@Connnnor99]

You getting back into making vids is making me get back into the game.

[@der_basic]

Such a great video. Keep it up

[@jefffinkbonner9551]

3:44 That iceberg with the bobsled and mini golf weaving and meandering in and out of all the tunnels looks totally fantastic, tho!

[@alaskausn]

I've never played any of the RCT games I have no idea why your videos are so entertaining to me

[@chief837]

I lost it when that guest exploded at 7:20 😂😂

[@draheim90]

Omg that guest crashing and exploding at the end got me. Was not expecting that outcome.

[@codetato]

Congrats on 66.6k subscribers Marcel!

[@DDRJake]

I've been waiting a long time for this. Love me some Quantum Golf.

[@kamo7293]

it's pretty cool that deleting the mini golf track makes them explode. not because the guests explode but it reveals and shows the clever tricks employed to make this game work

[@nthgth]

Haha so entertaining man. Thanks for the info.

[@BigStrap]

What a satisfying end screen!

[@thememelordbobbeh3107]

The exploding guest gave me a nice chuckle.

[@Aeolous1]

i was really hoping that the guest was gonna go through the loop

[@steelph7006]

Oh how I missed these. The background music is a little distracting, but your ride overviews never disappoint.

[@dunodisko2217]

6:03 Red Shirt Guy: “Aight Imma head out”

[@cleanerben9636]

Loves these videos man

[@danielcardwell5457]

Another advantage if you make the course long, you keep guests locked in to your park longer

[@ihavetonsils1]

Ah, it's too long since I last listened to a soothing Dutch voice talk about a 25 year old game, thank you :)