Who here HASNT owned a Wuhan china? Check out Stephen & I compare a cheap and expensive snare drum: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l2LGY2WchpaIack Keep in mind this is not meant to be a Wuhan vs Zildjian comparison. I just searched for the cheapest cymbal set I could find and that Wuhan set happened to be the cheapest. Wuhan does make higher quality cymbals than these, but of course they cost more.
@polyduckwanaland3 жыл бұрын
I have a Wuhan handmade 12” China but it doesn’t fit in any of my stands
@BurgeyMusic3 жыл бұрын
I thought about getting one a while ago just to fill up some empty gaps in my kit, but decided to wait and get a sabian holy china instead. One of my better drumming decisions👍
@Limbo_Pimp3 жыл бұрын
I don’t really have any cymbals
@Limbo_Pimp3 жыл бұрын
I have to wait until Christmas
@Randombikekid3 жыл бұрын
I still own a 16n inch china, love it
@ZackGrooves3 жыл бұрын
That comment about every drummer somehow owning a Wuhan China is so accurate 😂😂😂 great vid as always bro 💪
@stararc6203 жыл бұрын
Yessir
@Gatchi3 жыл бұрын
only the best! if you want a china, you go for the china-est sounding china!
@Centerpieceofmind3 жыл бұрын
1 on the kit, 3 broken in the cymbal bag.
@rdavidr3 жыл бұрын
I want to like your comment but its at 69 likes...
@Daniel_arr3 жыл бұрын
hey zack
@StephenTaylorDrums3 жыл бұрын
Let me get this straight: You fly to Nashville Stay at my house Eat my food Hang at my studio And in return I get to play your Wuhan's??? This bromance is on thin ice David.
@lastditch7273 жыл бұрын
Lol
@rdavidr3 жыл бұрын
You should be honored that my Wuhans were in your presence...
@weschilton3 жыл бұрын
Its just to remind you of your roots, man!
@paradiddle51503 жыл бұрын
😂
@alessandrogambino4203 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha it ain't fair is it @DavidR ?
@IAmInfinitus2083 жыл бұрын
Neil Peart used a Wuhan 19" China and can be heard on the intro of Mystic Rhythms by Rush as the first cymbal you hear. The Paragon 19" China by Sabian is based on this particular model.
@bpaboyce3 жыл бұрын
Yes it is, and it’s awesome…I have a 19” Paragon and it’s awesome, and yes, very similar to that old Wuhan sound!
@codesent21253 жыл бұрын
I have the 20" Paragon which is very bright, but I also want the 19" as well!
@rdavidr3 жыл бұрын
I had no idea about that! The 19" Paragon was one of the first chinas I lusted after haha
@porcelainthunder22133 жыл бұрын
Indeed, he had several of them. That was when he played Zidjians. It didnt have a screen print logo on it. Chinas seem to be the one thing Western cymbal makers can't make well. That are usually too loud and too "kangy".
@firesafetymore3 жыл бұрын
@@codesent2125 The 20" is based off of a zildjian low china
@RhymesWithCarbon2 жыл бұрын
When I worked at a drum shop, I played every type of cymbal from every price range. I always encouraged customers into better cymbals because they’re so much more rewarding to play. Can’t fix lame cymbal sounds but you can make most value drums sound great with the right heads and tuning.
@If6turnsouttobe92 жыл бұрын
I'd rather save and add a good one to 4he other good one I have than go buy 5 or 6 trash just to have every size etc.
@mat44102 жыл бұрын
@@If6turnsouttobe9 It’s what I’ve done. A friend had a New Beat top I had to have and got it matched to my bottom heavy. To this day I have never had a combo like this. HH top may have been a fluke, but oh what a fluke.
@If6turnsouttobe92 жыл бұрын
@@mat4410 that's what I have 14" new beats, really like em.
@ILikeWafflz11 ай бұрын
I'm finally starting to see that after getting some high-grade crashes and seeing/feeling/hearing the difference. I'm finally convincing myself to spend some money on hi-hats
@dew_b_dew9 ай бұрын
I started on B8s. Honestly budget cymbals are really good in today's time, especially if you are learning. Until you learn proper technique, you may be more prone to cracking cymbals. Better to Crack a B8 than an artisan
@Rberg11052 жыл бұрын
You should do this with the Wuhan traditional series. They’re made of a proper b20 alloy. Very inexpensive, but considerably better than the 457s.
@jamesmcmackin87732 жыл бұрын
There's no better cymbals at that price point unless you get a crazy deal on some secondhand high-end pies. Dream and their Bliss series are excellent as well.
@Rberg11052 жыл бұрын
@@jamesmcmackin8773 agreed. They actually punch way above their price point IMO.
@jamesmcmackin87732 жыл бұрын
@@Rberg1105 It'd be nice if they hadn't gone slightly up in price point, they really used to be dirt cheap, but they're still an excellent value as long as you're cool with medium-thin weights.
@chalocolina35542 жыл бұрын
@@jamesmcmackin8773 Real drummers carry their rigs while they play, and appreciate lightweight cymbals.
@Histgyph2 жыл бұрын
@@chalocolina3554 Ah yes the marching drumset, for all the real drummers
@marcpatzelt24303 жыл бұрын
You should've picked the Wuhan western cymbal pack to compare because it's only $300 and it sounds killer and also I think they're quite comparable to the Zildjians because they're B20
@tonzokinawa3 жыл бұрын
I was going to post this exact comment! I’m actually onto my second 17” crash from Wuhan because honestly you can’t beat its’ sound for the cost. I have it up against other crashes that are almost twice as expensive and it holds its’ own
@ricflairjrs43 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. I bought the Wuhan Western Cymbal pack through Cascio Music on Reverb and the hats & crash were exceptional; I've had A's that didn't sound as good and that's not hyperbole. The ride sounded good but it was heavier than I am used to and since I'd seen the Wuhan Western line had multiple versions of each cymbal I asked Cascio if I paid the shipping to send the ride back to them could they send a light or medium/light ride instead. They were really cool and said no problem, and the ride they sent was perfect. The best ride I ever had was a 20" K Custom Dark Ride that I stupidly sold and no, the Wuhan is not as good as that K but it's a great ride for recording. The 456 line set isn't bad either, I bought it off Amazon during a big sale. They're not the exact dual finish lathed/hammered model like these guys had but they are really good intermediate cymbals. Definitely better than the Sabian B8Plus's I learned on.
@garyjohnson49883 жыл бұрын
I concur with both these comments! They are really great cymbals! And they are so affordable!
@RyoCanCan3 жыл бұрын
Or Wuhan Koi series. Amazing stuff.
@eastbaymauiboy3 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly. I was thinking go with the (B20) Wuhan Traditionals. Brass vs high end B20??. I dunno, just doesn't make much sense to me, kinda disappointing. Oh, and his favorite sounding Wuhan cymbal was a B20 China, go figure
@manuelalfonzoml3 жыл бұрын
I think if you buy any other set from wuhan that are not the rock series,they would be even better.
@weschilton3 жыл бұрын
No, they really wouldn't
@CaptainZombeh3 жыл бұрын
Wuhan New Traditional Brilliant Splashes are awesome!
@6393dude3 жыл бұрын
@@weschilton Thick crash cymbals are generally terrible
@dr4d1s3 жыл бұрын
I agree. I have a 16" and 18" Med-Thin crashes from Wuhan that I use for backups and they sound much better than the 547 rock series.
@dye1823 жыл бұрын
The traditional line is killer specially the 20” medium ride
@jonblachley19112 жыл бұрын
Please note: No one has every walked out of a club or a concert and said "gee, that was a good concert, but the cymbals didn't sound so great " Again, as always, its is always about who is playing, not what brand instrument they use.
@fleagalisyourdaddy4 ай бұрын
Sure but imagine any jazz show with some clangy b8's, shit would sound sorry asf
@RickyParker666Ай бұрын
I usually totally agree with this logic- but I’m not sure I do here. I would say people only care if they are really loud. “Those cymbals sounded bad” probably would better translate to “I was getting blasted by cymbals all night and didn’t enjoy it”
@alessandrogambino4203 жыл бұрын
I LOVE WUHAN CYMBALS! I have 3 of them. My A custom zildjians and paistes lasted me 3 years. I have had the lovely and warm sounding Wuhan for 11 years now. Not a single crack, they font change color...they are PERFECT.
@arbogast49503 жыл бұрын
China's though right? These crashes and hats are awful. The ride is an okay crash cymbal. The China cymbal sounds good though. I have a 20" Wuhan china and it always ends up back on my kit. I love it.
@albertoeduardosantosvillar87913 жыл бұрын
@@arbogast4950 same thoughts for the cheap ones, the china sounds good and the ride makes a good crash cymbal, while the crash had some awful overtonen but decent initial sound when hit, their mic setup is good though maybe thats why the hats in my opinion sounded decent
@ArrowThrills3 жыл бұрын
@@arbogast4950 yo have you bought the All new Wuhan koi series cymbals ?
@arbogast49503 жыл бұрын
@@ArrowThrills no I haven't. Im content with my Aax and A customs..... for now anyway 🤣
@xIcarus2273 жыл бұрын
@@arbogast4950 gonna echo what you just said about the china, I got a 22" stagg TCH (it's basically a rebranded wuhan) and genuinely failed to find a good enough china to replace it with. It just sounds too good to me, and it's quite sustainy (which I like) since it's so large. Only 'downside' is that you gotta watch your velocity when playing it, it's very loud. Absolutely outvolumes my AAX med crashes if I hit it hard. I can definitely find other great chinas but none of them sound as perfect as these wuhans to my ears, especially when recording. Of all the chinas I found the sabian paragon to be the most similar.
@spiked-b57613 жыл бұрын
Actually, I was quite impressed by the HiHats. Sounds pretty decent.
@bobfallon26763 жыл бұрын
I agree. Of all of them, I thought the hihats were the most serviceable. For cheap cymbals, they sounded like you could get by with them. The ride left a lot to be desired.
@joshuakienzler75492 жыл бұрын
I agree, very bright!
@beaston_guitar2 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I heard there too. First thing I'd replace would be the ride.
@nickwallette62012 жыл бұрын
Yep, the ride was barely there, the hats actually worked pretty well, the crashes were too thin, and the China was surprisingly nice!
@jimtobakos19333 жыл бұрын
Should have tried out the Wuhan Traditional b20 series. Cheap and great.
@rdavidr3 жыл бұрын
Those do sound nice! Ive had a few, but they dont last long... Figured Id give these a shot!
@DaveonDrums3 жыл бұрын
I agree with this comment! Ive had my wuhan b20s for over a year, and they are still going strong. Gig with them consistently. Crashes, hi hats, and splashes are all good. Not the ride though. And they are super cheap!
@TheStudioDrummer3 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@robym20513 жыл бұрын
My B20 Wuhans are up and running after around 100+ rock gigs and counting.
@Merlincat0073 жыл бұрын
Wuhans won't break unless your technique sucks, David. Lmao
@TheOGNoName3 жыл бұрын
My biggest struggle back in the day was my hi hats. Started out with Ziljian ZBT 13". Then I got ZXT 14" thinking it would be a big upgrade, but I absolutely hated the sound of the ZXT hats (and the ride). After a while, I ended up getting Sabian AAX 14" hats and I haven't used anything since. I actually ended up switching ALL of my cymbals to AA, AAX and HHX over the years. I love the sound and look of the Sabian cymbals. They are well worth every penny.
@thomasnieman70863 жыл бұрын
Should have gone A Custom 🤷
@shivaumesh11292 жыл бұрын
Sabian are amazing
@XCHADHIGGINSX2 жыл бұрын
I think I went through that exact progression 😂
@nerychristian2 жыл бұрын
Paister 602
@If6turnsouttobe92 жыл бұрын
I got 14" new beats but I love Sabian.
@BoogieWoogieCat3 жыл бұрын
It's a shame you didn't try some b20 Wuhans. I have a full set of the Traditional and S series and they're actually surprisingly good. I did buy them used though, so I tested them. I don't know how unlucky you could get by buying them online. But when you don't have a lot of money, they're life savers.
@flapjack4133 жыл бұрын
I got a 12" free from GC back in 2007, and modified the crap out of it. Drilled out six lines of three holes from center to lip, and took an old broken Zildjian A crash I had lying around, and cut six 1.5" fender washers from the bronze and added them between the rows of holes. It's super trashy, quick decaying, much like a cymbal stack. Then I also have an 18" Wuhan China in it's stock form. I've owned many chinas over the years, both quite expensive, and very inexpensive (Wuhans, lol), and still haven't found one I like better than my Wuhan. The totally affordable price is just the icing on the cake for me. I should also add, I've had my current 18" since about 2009, and am a pretty hard hitting metal drummer. I hear people talk about them breaking easily, but mine have held up just fine over time.
@ArrowThrills3 жыл бұрын
Bro can you upload a video of you playing on those cymbals ? I would like to hear the sound of the cymbal stack
@TehDeejus3 жыл бұрын
i've done the same thing to an old 12" as well. sounds just like stax. I actually prefer the sound of a 16 or 18" wuhan china over the more expensive stuff due to the wuhans typically having a much quicker decay than the high end chinas. That 6" splash on here doesn't sound bad at all though.
@tangyorange65093 жыл бұрын
Wish you did the same thing for both sides, little hard to tell exactly when the hits vary
@leethaxor Жыл бұрын
A blind test with the same drummer would be great. Varying levels of pressure and the location of hits adjust the sound a bit; quite a noticeable difference when it swapped on the crash ride from 5:58-6:15. Not a huge deal, but it'd help to keep the tests more controlled. Either way, thanks for the comparison.
@lafemmedevastation11 ай бұрын
100% fully agree with this.. play styles were completely different, and almost felt like they were trying to sway opinion one side or another when they were playing. I cannot for the life of me understand why the bell of the ride was compared when one of the two choices didn't have a bell to speak of.🤷♀
@dirkayala58123 жыл бұрын
Never thought I'd say it but the "Wuhan" Koi Dark China is my next wishlist cymbal. Aside from that dark, the rest of series look pretty darn good as well, maybe a follow-up to this video on the Koi series!
@aaronraulston62483 жыл бұрын
This comparison shouldve definitely been with the NT series. And Wuhan now has their flagship Koi series
@IRLguy7773 жыл бұрын
Koi series I'd say is only marginally better than the NTs though.
@polyduckwanaland3 жыл бұрын
I’ve noticed some Persian rugs in your videos and they are very pretty. I also use a Persian rug for my drums.
@KillSchwill3 жыл бұрын
I actually prefer Wuhan chinas over any other expensive brand. I like the trashiness too. But as far as other cymbals go, I usually stick with the classic Zildjian A series and A customs. They sound great while not being overly expensive like the constantinoples which sound like paper IMO.
@markowalski12 жыл бұрын
I've recorded with Wuhan cymbals plenty of times, and they can work really well depending on the music, mix, and processing.
@Centerpieceofmind3 жыл бұрын
"Scimitar struggle days" ...haha, I can relate.
@Fl_Broccodile3 жыл бұрын
DAVID I need to know if a dw five position buttplate will work on a Ludwig classic maple snare without having to drill holes?
@Patches233 жыл бұрын
That expensive china cymbal sounds so good
@craigzilla34208 ай бұрын
I've had a 12 inch Wuhan China cymbal on my kit for 20 years and it will stay on my kit till the day I die. I love that little thing. I actually like the trashy, gritty sound of it.
@ifgwelf2 жыл бұрын
I feel like good production basically can make or break how something sounds!
@benjamin.kelley3 жыл бұрын
When my church switched from sabian Bates to a zildjian dark worship cymbal set (k custom hats, crashes, ride), my mind was blown at how easy the symbols opened up, and how good they sounded, both with a lower, more rich tone, but then also a more "exact" stick sound compared to the crappy brass cymbals.
@Sabian633 жыл бұрын
Love my Wuhan China - bought it over 10 yrs ago - still going strong.
@af71192 жыл бұрын
a video with stephen is finally not a 6 minute topic stretched into 22 minutes!
@RIdrummer963 жыл бұрын
Stagg cymbals are easily the best bang for your buck. The DH exo thin medium crash is unbelievably good. Got mine used for under $100
@r.folkefiende2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I've got an old DH 22" rock ride I've had for around 11 years and it sounds perfect to this day
@miniwy01wyatt702 жыл бұрын
This comment stunned me, i know nothing about cymbals but i have this aexact one and enjoy it better than my cheap sabian
@PJBonoVox2 жыл бұрын
Same. I have a couple of Stagg crashes and they both work well for me. They're not premium but sound exactly as I wanted. Helps that I could go into a store and try them first mind you.
@Relbac3 Жыл бұрын
Nice drum sounds but have you ever try a stack cymbal with a 6 inch splash 8 inch along with a 12 inch china cymbal and all that stuff
@Rockin_Ross3 жыл бұрын
IMO, I actually liked the cheap ride over the expensive one. Crashed better and didn’t have a wash build up. I’ve had an 18” Wuhan china in my collection since I started playing in 1986. They’re just the drummer standard for trashy, affordable china’s. Great video. Love seeing you two collaborate.
@devwhit2 жыл бұрын
Actually, my two favorite cymbal sounds were the Zildjian crash, and the Wuhan China, with the Wuhan being my favorite. Neil Peart used to use the Wuhan China before he switched to all Sabian, but that classic Wuhan trashy sound is still is one of my favorite cymbal sounds. 👍🏻
@stephprime3 жыл бұрын
to be honest: you hear every dollar! So much more richness & tone on the zildjian line - not comparable. There is a big gap between cheap and expensive cymbals, but there is not a big gap between cheap and expensive drum sets! you reviewed the amazon kit nearby and it was awesome!!! loved it!
@flapjackson60772 жыл бұрын
The cheap cymbals aren’t as good as the expensive ones, but the cheap ones sound a helluva lot better than what I have. I’d take them in a heart beat! Btw, subscribed! Great vids!
@MichaelPuterbaugh3 жыл бұрын
I like the sound of the Wuhans I own (12" china, 16" china, 16" crash) but can absolutely believe there are some real duds out there. At the bottom end of the market they call this variation "manufacturing inconsistency"; at the top end they say that each cymbal has "individual character". Same thing.
@marcusthomas883 жыл бұрын
That china (the cheap one) sounds good, great video!
@weschilton3 жыл бұрын
Yes, yes I do. I have had that little Wuhan china cymbal since 1983. Picked it up a The Drum shop in Houston for a cool, $35!
@mikejames-drummerreginacan13862 жыл бұрын
When the Zildjian "China" was hit it reminded me immediately of Steve Miller's "Take the Monet and Run" intro.....if price is why you buy lesser quality cymbals, I suggest buying USED good cymbals, one at a time.......great video guys...thanks.
@Alberto.R.Diaz.3 жыл бұрын
Is it me, or those cheap cymbals bring more for the value rather than the expensive set?
@attempt583 жыл бұрын
I like the splash, the ride and the hihats of the cheap; the china and the crash of the expensives. Good middle ground on me ig
@MikeDCWeld2 жыл бұрын
The cheap ones definitely sounded better with music, but the expensive ones were vastly better, especially with the heavier track
@xavkoston162 жыл бұрын
Totally disagree ... the cheap ones disappears in the mix and they have no resonance. Expensive ones have this washy full resonating sounds that gives presence and depth ....
@christopherkucia1071 Жыл бұрын
@@xavkoston16 very true, but I preferred the short higher snap and less resonance from the cheaper ones with the music. I liked the expensive ones by themselves by far, but with the music I liked the short snappiness of the cheap ones.
@kelisantonioeusebiotavera5543 жыл бұрын
Blessings, I really love when you guys come together for a video.
@rdavidr3 жыл бұрын
Awesome to hear! and more to come!
@ethancundiff64223 жыл бұрын
Just got the wuhan 6" splash and I really love it
@flowerlandofjohn3 жыл бұрын
Or: go all in with “midrange-priced” cymbals. I (nowadays) only use Pa Meinls classics customs dark & Paiste 900’s. Works great, and a crack won’t give you a nervous breakdown 🙏🏻🤩 Sample: kzbin.info/www/bejne/amXdh2pojNaYrpY Edit: and to follow your example. Here’s also a heavier track ✌🏻 kzbin.infoBBUn7_P4B-Y?feature=share
@BanBanChi3 жыл бұрын
Proud owner of an 18" Wuhan China with rivets. Sounds awesome after 14 years and still no cracks.
@stainpain772 жыл бұрын
I think it’s great to see couples making videos together. Keep up the great work guys!
@porcelainthunder22133 жыл бұрын
Wuhans are the best chinas you can get, and have been for decades. They used to be kind of a secret and hard to find. I've got two sizes on my my kit, and they sound great, and have held up beautifully. Western cymbal makers seem to have a hard time making good chinas. Often they are way too loud and sound "kangy" or gong like. The Wuhans ard buttery and seem to match the volume of my other Sabians when hit with equal force. One tip to make them last forever, mount them on Aquarian cymbal springs (heavy for your large china, light for your small). It prevents them from flying around on the stand because some players like the sound of them loose and unchoked, or from being placed on the stand too tight. They allow the cymbal to move on the initial hit to prevent cracking, but also ring like it was loose, while keeping it in place for rapid re-hits.
@GlassSurfing2 жыл бұрын
Feels/sounds like the visual encyclopedia example of me sitting on every cymbal company's website listening to every single one of the sound clips for every single cymbal. Thanks
@Baritoonisti2 жыл бұрын
Well the comparison is quite hard when the sizes and style of the cymbals are different.
@timothytan2018 Жыл бұрын
I actually liked the 6" splash more than the 10" fast splash
@jonniejlo2 жыл бұрын
Oh man! The Wuhan hats were not terrible, but hearing multiple cymbals together and the difference is night and day. When you're a Jazzer (i.e. chronic ride user) and you have that special ride cymbal which gives you a face like you're sucking a lemon.... it's pure joy.
@1toonhead3 жыл бұрын
Its great seeing two you-tubers that idolize each other get together.
@CBRansom353 жыл бұрын
Great video, as always! In case you didn't know, Wuhan has a line of better B20 alloy cymbals. After watching Nick D'Vigirlio's demo, I bought a crash and 2 splash cymbals in that series. They've held up well for 5 years and still sound great. They are much better priced than same alloy from major cymbal manufacturers. Here's a great demo from Sweetwater: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bmfCgmyljNyioas
@hydorah2 жыл бұрын
I've been drumming for 3 months and I do have a Wuhan China! I didn't buy it purposely... It came bundled among some decent stuff. It's amazing that the Wuhan comments was so nailed on accurate!
@shalaq3 жыл бұрын
Thing is, cheap instruments are mostly played by unexperienced musicians who cannot drwa the sound out of the cymbals and drums. Once you tune your drums right, get great mics and a player who can draw the sound from the cymbals and drums and use them right in the song they sound very decent. That's why people say about great players that they can make a trash can lid sound good.
@perpetualgrimace3 жыл бұрын
It's a lipstick on a pig situation. You can make some cheap cymbals sound kind of okay if you know what you're doing, but you pretty much can't make them sound like nice cymbals.
@firesafetymore3 жыл бұрын
This is evidenced by Lars Ulrich's work on St. Anger. Legend has it, he actually did use a trash can lid on that album. Not only that, but to show off his ectreme drumming cabalities he used the trah can lidd as snare drum!
@shalaq3 жыл бұрын
@@perpetualgrimace agree but I would say most of us overestimate the sounds that we are making in the context of the music. The drums are so digitalized nowadays, so compresed etc and listeners just don't care whether you use an a custom crash or a cheap zbt crash. That's just my opinion though and I do have many beautiful sounding cymbals. Too bad my bandmates don't take notice or don't care f I use a K custom session ride or a flat ride or a 100$ Dream bliss ride...
@shalaq3 жыл бұрын
@@firesafetymore I love the st Anger snare sound but I think the production and mix were a trainwreck. You can clearly hear the parts kf one song were recorded on different sets in a different studio etc..
@perpetualgrimace3 жыл бұрын
@@shalaq Not true at all. No amount of compression can make a zbt sound good, in fact you'll wind up heavily EQing your overheads to work around it and the whole drum sound will suffer. Gotta get the right sounds at the source! It's true that listeners with untrained ears may not hear a huge difference, but that doesn't mean there isn't a huge difference. And for what it's worth, your dream bliss ride undoubtedly sounds miles better than the zbt crash/ride I started out with. Not all cheaper cymbals are equal!
@dennisneo1608 Жыл бұрын
The best cymbals I ever played were vintage Ufips. They just sounded awsome!!
@Evocati-Augusti2 жыл бұрын
I have a drumming friend on here that's starting his own company and has prototypes already. He's taking Zildjian L80 Low Volume Cymbal Set - 14/16/18 inch , and added dual zone triggers on them.
@jamesoshannasy8052 Жыл бұрын
Looking back on things I think one of the best reward/motivators while learning to play drums is stepping up the quality of your gear.
@philipmccann23582 ай бұрын
Love that snare sound ..that’s what I need !
@jackdrums17143 жыл бұрын
If the wohan koi cymbals would have been compared to the Zildjian ones, I'd pick Koi any day. They are INCREDIBLE for the price!
@Vater5B3 жыл бұрын
I hope this comment gets seen. The Koi series from the Cardinal Percussion relaunch of Wuhan are fantastic. While they are more expensive, they are still half as much as a set of K Cons. kzbin.info/www/bejne/p3iyemyBfJWWias
@augenmaugen2 жыл бұрын
There’s something about cymbals that make them more like buying a piece of art. It’s okay to buy cheap cymbals from time to time (especially splashes and small chinas) but with rides and crashes especially, also hats, you’ll eventually want something that really speaks to you.
@theswime9453 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to mention the absolutely killer snare sound... Thanks guys.
@crankygunreviews3 жыл бұрын
So glad you did this! I looked at those Wuhan 457’s and wondered how they were
@ivanalfonsocorderogutierre74983 жыл бұрын
Great video, the way to the best sound requires search and experimentation!
@JFORTEDRUMS2 жыл бұрын
I love when these guys are together
@raymondlugo99603 жыл бұрын
I've been wondering about the Wuhan crashes and rides because I love my 20" Wuhan china a touch more than my Zildjian 18" china. The Zildjian broke way before my Wuhan and the prices differences are huge.
@MNDrummer2 жыл бұрын
I experiment with my cymbals. Generally the higher end cymbals sound "better", but that is still relative to what particular sound you are looking for. I have a lot of higher end cymbals and they make up the majority of what I have. I also have a lot of cheaper cymbals, different lines of cymbals, etc. I will mix different hi-hats to achieve certain sounds or stack different cymbals. Often times some of the cheap cymbals will be exactly what I was looking for. I admit that I have way too many cymbals.......... wait, is that possible? I just keep buying them and now I have enough to open a small cymbal store. Cymbals are the endless way of modifying your kit and making it sound completely different even though you have the same drums! Don't be afraid to experiment and buy odd brand cymbals. Sometimes they pay off. Just know that it is always a gamble unless your actually listening to them in-person before buying.
@gballmaier2 жыл бұрын
So great watching these guys rockin all this cheap crap, but they still keep the attitudes as if their rockin the high quality schtuff. Hilarious!!!
@ravenforlano61312 жыл бұрын
Honestly one thing I like about drums is they are very customizable and you can pick what you want and the sounds for things
@steven_porter2 жыл бұрын
The Wuhan China is the most recent addition to my kit actually! I got it in a bundle with a 10" splash and basically never use it
@dandylyonwine2 жыл бұрын
How accurate is a comparison with two different players?
@matthewzagorski91613 жыл бұрын
The Wuhan splash also sounded pretty good. The hats weren't the worst, but the ride was just completely buried in the mix. Also, I've never owned a Wuhan. I think I'm the only one.
@victormuriel72663 жыл бұрын
Haha I have a 12", 14" 16" 18" and 20" Wuhan "lion china" and 8" splash (the only one that everyone likes is the splash) Best regards from Mexico 🇲🇽
@FlyApeRally3 жыл бұрын
I was wondering, do those little barcode stickers affect the sound? Do clean cymbals sound crispier or "better" than... patinad ones? jeje
@rdavidr3 жыл бұрын
Ive found that on smaller cymbals, basically only splashes, do the the stickers make a difference. when removed.
@DRUMROCKERS3 жыл бұрын
Nice mate, congrat's for this video and others.
@davidskillman75473 жыл бұрын
OMG Stephen, I bought a pair of 14" K Dark hats In Fayetteville, NC in 1994 and the set came with that Dyno Beat Z bottom with the diamond pattern, they still rock, that bottom hat is heavy as F, pardon my abbreviated French. Than you for all the drumming tips!
@DrRusty53 жыл бұрын
Many years ago I had intended on buying the set of Zildjian Scimtar cymbals (as that is what I could afford). However, I was fortunate enough to have access to some basic Meinl cymbals. So I put all my money on a 16" A Custom Crash. Over the following years I added to my cymbals and swapped out a few things. I will never regret buying good cymbals, my only reject now is I can't afford to get more !
@Meirmou3 жыл бұрын
As someone who has cheap Arborea Cymbals, I quite like the Wuhan Ride tbh. :) Anyway, must be an honor to play sir David's Wuhans! Lucky you, sir Stephen! Hmm. Great and fun video as always. :D The "557" tho.
@BeardODoom2 жыл бұрын
I've had a 20" Wuhan china for years, it sounds amazing and somehow hasn't broken - I've lost count of how many crashes & hi-hats i've gone through in the same period
@fonztorres2 жыл бұрын
Tell me you don't jam to Meshuggah without telling me you don't jam to Meshuggah Lol
@gideonanderson64262 жыл бұрын
Can you get Wohans for electric drum sets?! Caus I sure don't have any in my house!😕
@TubbyJ420 Жыл бұрын
1:55 is that now an Istanbul 16" crash?
@lukecologne88042 жыл бұрын
Pretty straight foreward, when it comes to ride crash and hi hat u should get the high quality but effect must not be that expensive since its just an Cymbal u will use now and then to get that extra soundeffect
@artemi-music2 жыл бұрын
thanks for video! great playing
@LilReaper10103 жыл бұрын
The bearded drummers never dissapoint, great video!
@mikec7176 Жыл бұрын
I always had A Zildjians on all of my kits over the years, and I always had at least 2 Wuhan china cymbals and took the time to put rivits in them, I just liked the way they sounded. 👍🥁👍
@NelsonMontana12342 жыл бұрын
Well, not a china type. They're meant to sound trashy so it makes no sense to buy something expensive.
@bilhamcobbly29573 жыл бұрын
The expensive ones just had MORE of everything.Lows highs,Grit,Wash,Sustainable volume. Thanks again
@codesent21253 жыл бұрын
Also, Josh Steffen used Wuhan's a good bit and makes them sound really good
@thIDthIRreenactor2 жыл бұрын
Are Sabian xsr cymbals good. I have a set of them and sound good to me but are they good build quality? Mine have sounded pretty good so far
@cobra1995xx3 жыл бұрын
I found some of my best scores drums AND cymbals just drivin around checkin my local stores... found some awesime stuff pretty cheap sometimes on used traded gear
@ChristianIce2 жыл бұрын
Worth every penny.
@11000038 Жыл бұрын
I took my sander to some old catalogue no name cymbals. I mounted the top hat aas a crash and had been enjoying the ride. Quite a relevation! They look awesome too with the clean surface texture. Cost =0 as I was about to chuck them!
@Vermithor002 жыл бұрын
I had a 14" Wuhan way back. I sometimes stacked it with an 8"splash - sounded great. The 18" to 20" chinas sounds decent esp live with mic.
@Eccentricjuices3 жыл бұрын
Despite my Zildjian A Series Hi Hats and S Series Ride. I use Wuhan Traditional for the Crashes 16/18” and Splashes 6’. I’ll be expecting my Wuhan 18’ China coming soon. Great Sounding Cymbals for the price.
@mattnormandrums2 жыл бұрын
To me, the Wuhan China holds up really well. I believe it is a B20 cymbal too, right? I don't mind the ride and the hats either from the cheaper kit.
@oakeidissiczeppic974 Жыл бұрын
Been playing 20 years. Played Paiste, Sabian and Zildjian chinas over the years. Bought a Wuhan in a pinch before a tour and was surprised how much I preferred the sound over the other brands. Only thing I don’t like is the huge bell.
@DaveCooperCreative2 жыл бұрын
Years ago after not playing drums since high school (mid '80s), I acquired a cheap set with really cheap cymbals. They worked out okay because I never plan to play live. I also use silencers, so the sound doesn't matter. The cheap cymbals I use are referred to as "targets" in my house because I just need a cymbal where I want it when I want to hit it. 😉
@orionugget23132 жыл бұрын
the heavier track towards the end sort of sounds like Got No Mind