RDR2 is TOO LONG, but that's a good thing...

Red Dead Redemption 2 has a very long story with a very controversial 5th Chapter, many players consider the game repetitive and boring nearing the end of Chapter 6 so in this video I'll be explaining why that is, and why the story benefits from the pacing.
For those who saw the community post about taking a while before uploading a new video, I ended up grinding all day and night and got this one out so here it is!
#gaming #reddeadredemption #rockstargames

[@justjackorwhatever]

was enjoying the video until you DARE insult my precious bolt action!

[@tammullen4153]

It is pretty bad compared to the Litchfield or even Lancaster, even if I want a rifle I think the Springfield is better

[@channel45853]

And he insulted the volcanic pistol...

[@damienlacey4565]

@@tammullen41532 of those guns are repeaters so obviously there better than the rifles

[@damienlacey4565]

@@channel45853that’s a bad pistol

[@Sopranos990]

I love the rifle

[@iuopunderstandyourjokes9914]

I kinda like that they decided to make guarma hatable. Really immerses you into arthur

[@themadtitan7603]

Maybe you're right and I'd agree, but I think it might've been that way more so due to whatever circumstances pushed to cut it down in development. Rather than deciding to make it that way. Given how much we know was taken out. I think the original vision would've been immersive in its own way, as we get to see the gang degrade and fight to survive for a whole chapter in this island. Perhaps developments like Javier's turn would've been shown off and felt more gradual than the flip-switch we get in the final game.

[@CrackedJust1n]

​@themadtitan7603 I know that around the later years crunch got serious in the studios so guarmas strange appearance could have absolutely been due to time problems like you said, I also wish Javiers character had a more visible turn into Dutch's side over Arthur's

[@themadtitan7603]

​@@CrackedJust1n Sorry for the late reply but yeah. Given a lot of the cut content found that sheds light on the original vision, it might've not even been MAINLY time constraints (tho possible) but one of the sudden, big rewrites the writing team would do often without the rest of the dev team being notified, leading to a lot of material being quickly cut. We heard about this in interviews in the final days leading up to release.

[@fellownoobs5376]

The game being long is great, it’s the reason why I like tv shows more instead of movies. Because it gives you a long period of time to get to know the characters to love, see the development and watch the plot unfold.

[@CrackedJust1n]

I completely agree, a major death in a TV show is much more impactful than one in a movie

[@Typical-Greek]

HOLY SHIT I loved the last two missions of guarma and when milton attacks the camp at lakay, when they reunite, that shit felt like there were no breaks and you really felt like you were fully compromised and everything was falling apart

[@CrackedJust1n]

I love after that mission when you go to Dutch and he's playing a chess game in his head, absolute madness lol

[@derpeth2101]

@@CrackedJust1n The chess moves he's mentioning are actually called "Dutch defense" lol

[@Typical-Greek]

​@@CrackedJust1nI was talking about the Cuban navy and escaping guarma missions, along with fleeting joy

[@jaydendama8611]

Somehow you've just made me hate Dutch more and more throughout this video, and you've done a better job at that in a 10 minute video than a 5 hour retrospective about how Dutch goes psycho.

[@godzillazfriction]

goes 'psycho' really... that's it

[@dagobahstudios3662]

They should’ve made guarma accessible in epilogue where you could use any gun you want, ride horses, customize your character, etc. I think they were planning to but they spent all their time on the horse testicles

[@NicktheBalla]

Let's hope R* can make GTA VI a worthy successor to RDR2.

[@TheXbandit]

I doubt it bro I can’t see it but who knows

[@Sopranos990]

@@TheXbanditit has had more years of development and hype than any rockstar game

[@benjamincox4211]

@@Sopranos990most of the people that made their previous games are gone tho. Rockstar is only still Rockstar in name and companies don’t make video games, people do. GTA 6 might be awesome but I am cautiously optimistic about it

[@thegamingvillager2392]

@incox4211 gameplay and graphics it will be amazing but story/narrative wise i don't know

[@TheXbandit]

@@Sopranos990 just because it has a lot of development and hype doesn’t mean it’ll be a worthy successor tho does it mate Cyberpunk proved that

[@SomeGamingFan]

one of the ways to telling if a gaming video is good is if it makes the viewer want to play the game. Modest Pelican did that for me with Mafia 1 and 2. and you have done that for me with RDR2 even though I've already beaten the game like 4 or 5 times. Keep up the great work man I am truly impressed by the quality of all your videos. I watch ever single one as soon as i get the notification.

[@CrackedJust1n]

Modest Pelican is what got me into Red Dead Online, definitely one of the better gaming channels out there

[@romeucapelasa]

Its crazy Guarma was my favorite part, having my expectations broken with a whole new environment fill with story and immersion, the people that dislike it usually are not into story driven games or just have the attention span broken and don't know how to appreciate all the little things that come to you during that whole arc.

[@Buff-Stats]

I appreciate RDR2 for being both experimental and long because it allows the game to really develop its strongest aspects more. I actually disagree with Guarma being a standout part of the game as I grew sentimental with the cowboy simulation aspect of the game to where when we leave to Guarma, I was immediately ready to go back to the familiar tranquility of New Hanover, Saint Dennis etc Great analysis of chapter 6 at the end, the repetition added to the longing feeling of playing as Arthur when we move on to John at the epilogue and post game

[@CrackedJust1n]

RDR2s length is perfect imo and I appreciate you leaving your opinion on guarma, by the way bro you always leave your thoughts and it's actually lit to see you participate so much. Cheers buddy!

[@Buff-Stats]

@@CrackedJust1n Your videos are a great blend of insightful commentary, down to earth stream of consciousness and the type of quality content that should be supported. Your channel is genuine man and I absolutely see you passing at least 50k if not more by the end of the year 👍

[@MatthewGordon-mb6et]

Honestly, for me, i love Guarma because im Jamaican, in other words, im from the Caribbean...what you see in Guarma is Slavery, and you take part in a slave revolt. Essentially, that part of the game is portraying my history, and I'm on the right side...so it feels rewarding, and exhilarating. But i could understand why others wouldn't have that feeling. Especially if you aren't from the Caribbean, or black

[@CrackedJust1n]

Thank you for commenting your perspective on this, I can totally see why you'd enjoy that part of the game especially what it wasn't expected and came as a surprise

[@lol_histicall4289]

4:11 still wish you could loot the gold bar she has

[@JarringSteak]

You're still extremely underrated, keep it up! But... Did you just say bolt action is bad? 😭

[@ethancadle937]

Nothing compares to the Lancaster with deadeye

[@skiippiii3991]

Man i swear to you these Edits are excellent dude GD

[@SuperGamer123]

such a good video. you make me appreciate the game more.

[@CrackedJust1n]

Ay thank you!

[@colton5363]

My favorite missions gotta be the one where the gang goes to save jack from the braithwates and the one where you assult cornwalls oil rigg to save eagle flys

[@Transport4ThatDumpTruck]

0:16 subnautica abt to get this man popped rip. you had a good run.

[@lol_histicall4289]

I like this take for me I can’t ever say a game is too long since I spent 200 hours on both elden ring and ac Valhalla and still haven’t finished the game (FYI completed ER now 4 times) but I do get what you mean, to me red dead’s story could’ve different in so many occasions Lenny’s death could’ve been a grapple scene where you save Kenny or Arthur goes in first in that rooftop and dead eye scene pops up same for Hosea maybe you throw tnt and Hosea barely slips out alive things like that but that didn’t happen maybe you send Sadie to black water to retrieve the money but I think the reason they didn’t do that was because then you’d have to make Sadie a playable character which I always wondered why it’s only Arthur I feel like red dead’s side quests are too sparse and just all over the place and some don’t even trigger even if you’ve been to that location like 20 times it’s very annoying If you could switch between maybe Arthur, Sadie, and maybe even Micah or John we could have a lot more content in a map literally double the size of rdr1 but that’s just me

[@conkbonk]

this video is really good i completely agree, one little thing though, maybe cut down on the sound effects

[@Xolisa77]

i clicked the video thinking you have like 500k subs but no(you are very underated bro)

[@SomeGamingFan]

It’s only a matter of time before he’s at that mark all his videos are very well done

[@denisjp7154]

I haven't finished it and you gave a spoiler warning so I'm dropping in to like and leave a comment

[@2SK-EVIL]

Red dead redemption II Ending Almost Got Me Crying when Arthur died and the game took me 2 mouths to beat it and I have a lot of favorite missions like to many to play t in this comment and I think the character development of Dutch was really written good and loved it and I have played 240 hours of the game but it was mostly red dead online but yeah really good video

[@godzillazfriction]

God if making ppl cry or almost cry for the ending of RDR2 all for the sake of how the High Honor ending is presented for Arthur's death, then that's just thr epitome of what's wrong with the RDR2 community...

[@Sopranos990]

@@godzillazfrictionit’s really cringe how people actually cry over a death scene in a game 💀

[@godzillazfriction]

@@Sopranos990 i guess it always equates to that specific death scene as well as the 'im afraid' scene to be a stepping stone by the Public Opinion to deem it the 'best' because of said 'Public Opinion' in regards to ppl crying over it and explaining how 'emotional' it is... this is partly but primarily why i despise this community which specifically stemmed from RDR2 as major new ppl came into the franchise...

[@LucasCHRW.]

Is it just me but the poker robbery in chapter 4 with trelawny javier and strauss was one of the best missions in the game

[@Sopranos990]

You do like 7 things

[@LucasCHRW.]

@@Sopranos990 I do not remember what mission it was remind me

[@Sopranos990]

@@LucasCHRW. buddy you just explained what it was 😭

[@Tearcarlog]

I didn’t know people disliked the volcanic and the bolt action, I pair the volcanic with the double action and the bolt action with the semi auto

[@sennedegroof4728]

I actually really enjoy using the volcanic pistol but to each their own i geuss.

[@out1am977]

I hope that GTA VI will be more like RDR2. Especially the customizability, shops, and shopping feel.

[@glenchamberlain8804]

The volcanic is class

[@marcodiaz873]

I agreed with you until you insulted my precious volcanic pistol. Imma report you for hate speech. Jokes aside, this is the first video that I see from your channel, you have quite the words. :) You did caught my attention and I am eager to see more videos from you!!! I see a lot of potential in this channel and becoming one of the big ones. :)

[@CrackedJust1n]

Thank you for the kind words! and my sincerest apologies regarding your volcanic pistol, it deserves better

[@Harakatheboye]

Subbed.

[@Rebelgoose]

I kinda have the complete opposite opinion. Chap 4, 5, 6 are the parts I look forward to the most on new playthroughs cuz it's where the most interesting stuff happens. I do however, still think RDR2 drags on for too long, but I feel that it drags on early on in the game, around early chapter 3. On my first playthrough, I was very bored around chap 3 and quit. Then I retried the game and have around 600h roughly on the game and it's prob my favorite game I think. But chap 3 is rly what I look forward to the least when I replay

[@Rebelgoose]

However, I also wanna say that it is very possible that the reason the ending made me ball my eyes out is because it lets you spend so much time with Arthur and get to know the characters, which movies fail to do

[@coreymcewen8737]

The bolt action is amazing wtf?!

[@godzillazfriction]

I honestly think that section with Dutch killing the old crone is pretty contrived with how it is written all for the sake of Dutch going into a mental spiral for who he really was but that's just it... Arthur is insanely hypocritical for how he words his tone against Dutch, yes the thought of Dutch being like this in front of Arthur is something that Arthur hasn't seen of Dutch doing but the game tries to make it seem more detrimental than it had to be since the lady wasn't to be trusted at all especially since she pulled a knife on Dutch, there's barely any difference to what Dutch did there compared to what Arthur is capable of that can point out Arthur's unjust but conflicted hypocrisy against Dutch since in the lore of RDR2, Arthur projects the way his biological Father was onto Dutch but didn't want to acknowledge it deep down...

[@godzillazfriction]

plus Arthur's 'Redemption' isn't as one-noted as (if you're reading this) you think it is, all because of 'change'... change isn't something that you can determine in its actuality in any life form, it's a man-made concept that was made to generalise the human existence, it's supposed to represent a catalyst that is contradictory which ties into the 'Redemption' aspect in both the games' title, they're not supposed to be taken in its literal form because of what Dutch said at the end of his demise "We can't always fight nature, John. We can't fight change. We can't fight gravity. We can't fight nothing. My whole life, all I ever did was fight. Then give up, Dutch. But I can't give up, neither. I can't fight my own nature. That's the paradox, John. You see?" - that's the paradox of both the Red Dead 'Redemption' games although Rockstar made it extremely convoluted on that idea with how they prioritised the writing of their Honor system in regards to RDR2 compared to RDR1...

[@Armintheone25]

"It kills KZbin channels" 😂💀

[@jw674]

My theory is Dutch has syphilis and he's not treating it which is slowly driving him into psychosis.

[@TrafalgarD.Wat3rLaw]

no its not long enough.

[@Novanimator]

You're high.

[@TrafalgarD.Wat3rLaw]

@@Novanimator true but that doesn’t invalidate my opinion

[@Novanimator]

@@TrafalgarD.Wat3rLaw Should've just said "Imo" to begin with.

[@h8trixx_]

I actually loved Guarma lmao

[@Mrgtaman533]

I want GTA VI to have Long Long story like RDR2's

[@counterclockwise4410]

These videos are funny

[@HirstMovies]

Imagine if you played as a younger Dutch in rdr3 💀

[@shahnoorahmed1462]

Gamers after discovering not every game is shooting 24/7 : 🤬😡😡

[@captainmarvelwilson508]

It may get repetitive at times, but definitely not boring.

[@muhammadamaar7936]

yes

[@Sopranos990]

Literally people just need to actually sit down and enjoy a slow part, I guarantee everyone who hates guarma skips every cutscenes and watches story recaps

[@gloriousgooferz3545]

you sir are a fish

[@madmaterromp4195]

ch 5 was too short

[@intoxicatednewborn]

rdr2 IS TOO SHORT

[@sjgghosh7677]

Rdr2 is great game.. But nowhere near God of war.... Rdr2 story is good... But what about gameplay??? Same gun kill... Nothing different.. Same thing from start to end.....not a single time I felt like.. Yeah I'm a badass (maybe little in the chapter where we go to save john's son) ..... But gow was as good as rdr2 in graphics & story... But the gameplay made it far better..... (Remember the fight where u have to defeat some 3 giant monsters? That that was epic.... Later on the fight where world changed few times & all previous bosses were coming in quite big numbers?) For side quest rdr2 is probably the best (along with witcher 3)

[@Youraveragegamer_97]

I love the story to it and the open world free roam but i hate how forced scripted gameplay and cinematic focused it is, its no differnt then alot of sony exclusives

[@godzillazfriction]

there's a lot of Sony exclusives that don't do that but sure...

[@Transport4ThatDumpTruck]

​@godzillazfriction fr I wonder if people who say things like this even own a ps..because shit I mustve been high since gt7. Demon souls.spiderman. ghost of tsushima. Bloodborne. And most others dont

[@godzillazfriction]

@@Transport4ThatDumpTruck there are more Sony exclusives that don't do that than those who are deemed as to do... there's actually a lot of Sony exclusives that came out during the 8th gen that ppl don't talk about at all...

[@Transport4ThatDumpTruck]

@godzillazfriction yeah but is not as bad as yall make it out to be man..

[@vito3628]

Now play assassin's creed vallhala then you will know the real definition of LONG!

[@Sopranos990]

70+ hours and I’m just on Vinland 💀