Arthur helps the family who gives him tuberculosis. Thomas Downes has long past away and his family needs some help. Red Dead Redemption 2 Strangers and Freaks.
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@Dano-ph5xl5 жыл бұрын
Arthur: ‘’Here, take this, I don't need it no more''. Ms. Downes: ''I don't want your money''. Arthur: ‘’Yeah, I know you don't want it, you sure as shit need it. I ain’t looking for forgiveness, it ain’t about that, don’t forgive, just take the money''. ''I know I ruined your life, I suffer for it every day, but don't get yourself killed for pride. Don't thank me''. Archie: ''thank you Mr. Morgan'' Arthur: ‘’I said don't thank me''. I really loved this conversation. Might be my favourite one from the game, especially the voice acting from Arthur. Just brilliant.
@moderndavinci65995 жыл бұрын
Da W and yet he dies and gets replaced by John... I fecking hate it.
@SirRivers5 жыл бұрын
Yup. One of the most memorable cut scenes for me.
@johnmarston88065 жыл бұрын
Mr.Minzer Deal with it...
@luisisaac10025 жыл бұрын
I like this conversation, but the best conversation in the game is with the nun, that's was one of the best conversation i see in a videogame.
@Devilsnightforlife5 жыл бұрын
They blame him (and he blames himself) for more than he deserves for it. Thomas would have ended up dying of tuberculosis shortly after anyways; the prognosis of untreated, non-latent tuberculosis is a couple of months to a maximum of 3 years. At worst Arthur "just" sped up his death a bit by beating him. The Downes Family would have ended up in their poverty no matter what anyways, not much later.
@thejanusproject325 жыл бұрын
He coughs in the guys face and it goes into his mouth. That's all it was, 2 seconds. And that was the beginning of the end for Arthur Morgan
@elitemarine19515 жыл бұрын
thats not how it spreads
@thejanusproject325 жыл бұрын
@@elitemarine1951 You cannot be that silly. Look it up on the internet "TB is spread through the air when a person with active TB disease spreads the bacteria by coughing, sneezing, shouting, speaking or singing and other people nearby breathe in the bacteria". The fact that the guy sneezes in Arthur's face and you see Arthur visually SPIT at 2:27 means he got sneezed on and contracted the sickness. It was the beginning of the end right there.
@justapillow24435 жыл бұрын
@@thejanusproject32 whats scary is even tho he spat right after, he still contracted it. Never thought how fast diseases spread until i thought of that
@mkkrinkov5 жыл бұрын
Holy shit !!!! Fuck you Strauss
@2KXMKR5 жыл бұрын
@@thejanusproject32 You are right, that is how it is portrayed in the game but in reality TB takes months to develop and a person must spend many hours close to someone, sleeping next to them, kissing them etc, already infected by it to become infected themselves. It takes a long time for enough bacteria to make it to the lungs or throat. Ultimately it would have been better for R* to give Arthur a form of cancer if they wanted him to die so quickly.
@biglez7895 жыл бұрын
It could be worse Arthur could have got uncles lumbago
@McGriddle695 жыл бұрын
Terminal Lombago is a serious thing 😂
@tellitalks5 жыл бұрын
Lazy-Assed Wanderer it’s a slow and painful death, my brother. LuMbAgO
If irony was made of strawberries, we'd all be drinking alot of smoothies
@mistertree5534 жыл бұрын
@fallenhope1 interesting analogy
@MohaMed-jw2dl4 жыл бұрын
Joseph H 420 likes
@azapro9115 жыл бұрын
*Sits in front of a patient he's just diagnosed with tuberculosis and lights up his pipe*
@gufostanco2205 жыл бұрын
Savage
5 жыл бұрын
Back in the old days people didn't think smoking was bad for your health. And in the matter of tuberculosis, it was widely believed medically that smoking (and the smoke itself) would protect oneself from contracting the tuberculosis bacteria. Which today is absolutely false. Rockstar did their research well and paid attention to small details like this.
@rashedalsuwaidi36485 жыл бұрын
Well he Burt all the tuberculosis in his lung while smoking and Arthur should've done the same lol
@grandvage5 жыл бұрын
@@rashedalsuwaidi3648 that's not how that works
@shamuu135 жыл бұрын
Also actual tobacco isn't that bad, at least in comparison to modern day cigarettes and all the chemicals inside them. Still vaping is the safest for your lungs.
@thedarkknight56725 жыл бұрын
Its ironic that a portion of Ms Downes husband lives in Arthur, as a illness.
@Rapture5825 жыл бұрын
that's not a portion of him
@REDEEMERWOLF5 жыл бұрын
That's not how a contagious disease works, but I get your point
@hmpf5 жыл бұрын
I don't think you know what "ironic" means.
@Connor-fj5rc5 жыл бұрын
hmpf I don’t think YOU know what ironic means.
@bobjoe89665 жыл бұрын
Yeah that’s not how it works buddy
@shopekuax20675 жыл бұрын
Arthur is probably my favorite videogame character of all time, i don’t know... it’s just that there’s something special in him
@Aristocratic135 жыл бұрын
Kind of remind me of Clint Eastwood a little, you should watch his films then
@unholymalformationoffisto21315 жыл бұрын
He's a very human, realistic character. The major epiphany he has that changes his whole personality is just so damn believeable just with how he changed.
@miah63535 жыл бұрын
It’s the tuberculosis.
@kiyavas18795 жыл бұрын
@@unholymalformationoffisto2131 in a matter of 50 hours still belivable
@chewymomo27635 жыл бұрын
it is not the TB it is his character... not an illness u idiot.
@gamergreg20005 жыл бұрын
"I said whatchu lookin at woman" That part made me laugh a little to hard
@CellblockWisdom5 жыл бұрын
Lmao yeah one time as I threw a guy off a bridge Arthur says "you'll be alright" the way he said it had me rolling, damn I'm gonna miss Arthur he was a great character
@easyasmr24115 жыл бұрын
SAME
@justanotherlaid-backdude52974 жыл бұрын
Man I think Arthur was the toughest softie in all of video games. Goes out of his way to gently save a broken woman while dealing with guys by "puttin bullets in em"
@playzzorma_41684 жыл бұрын
@@justanotherlaid-backdude5297 Mad Max was a big one too
@wax27435 жыл бұрын
20:52 Woah. The pain in his "Don't thank me."
@surrk10574 жыл бұрын
NinjaStyle If I’d had a choice to give em money the next encounter of them from asking their debt, I do want to
@xmynationalanthemx4 жыл бұрын
He feels incredibly guilty for the pain he caused that family, and the recognition of that guilt is part of the road that leads to his redemption.
@bobgnarly49584 жыл бұрын
It's too much man. Rockstar outdid themselves with emotion.
@lonestarlangley3 жыл бұрын
That’s a top notch performance by Roger
@kanesmobilegamingandreacti48205 жыл бұрын
Strous is to blame for Arthur's tuberculosis.
@UjjwalTripathi55 жыл бұрын
Isn’t Strauss a doctor as well?
@squeakyfrog87125 жыл бұрын
@@UjjwalTripathi5 Strauss is more of a banker/loan shark than anything. The reverend and the women of the gang are likely more doctor-like than Strauss.
@renownedfear1875 жыл бұрын
Not really. He had a choice he coulda seen the guy wasnt well. & left him be.
@brandonc53765 жыл бұрын
renownedfear187 no the game did not give you a choice. also when your first seeing him you can't tell he is unwell, it's isn't till you have him pressed up against the fence and he coughs blood in your face you get the hint he isn't well
@sandeshvantveen5 жыл бұрын
@@brandonc5376 He's constantly coughing while trying to explain that he's working hard for the money. But then it was probably unavoidable since Strauss asked Arthur to beat him up.
@OldManEsteban5 жыл бұрын
in the credits you can see them going aboard a ship, the boy has grown up and mrs. Downes has grown old but got her act together
@SeanEazy5 жыл бұрын
Ah. Sorry I didn't include that. Must have missed that little piece. Thanks for the info
@OldManEsteban5 жыл бұрын
@@SeanEazy i was watching credits in hope of finding some secrets. pearson can be found at rhodes store near the one legged soldier tilly jackson can be found in saint denis central park waiting for trolley on a bench mary beth can be found at valentine train station rains fall can be found at annesburg train station mickey(the one handed homeless man) can be found still in valentine, he still remembers arthur for what he did for him
@asherrayawa50965 жыл бұрын
@@OldManEsteban MVP imma go see them all now
@MRJAYWILSON5 жыл бұрын
Might've been the boat that john was on at the start of the first game
@OldManEsteban5 жыл бұрын
@@MRJAYWILSON i HIGHLY doubt that
@TheChuckeez5 жыл бұрын
It's arthurs fault, I put on the mask when I approached downes but he had to put the mask down
@uchihaitachi68495 жыл бұрын
I even tried killing that dude
@uchihaitachi68495 жыл бұрын
They tried to sell it like an optional mission
@wethenorth36955 жыл бұрын
@Christian Busch it's the story soo
@kobytate67195 жыл бұрын
Its all and all the gangs fault for doing sharking in the fist place instead of just robbing people as that had the bigger payout
@SSC00025 жыл бұрын
@@kobytate6719 Strauss, not the gang. At least the gang tells people when they're being robbed. Strauss does it under the guise of usury
@goldenbull49155 жыл бұрын
"I SAID WHATCHU LOOKIN AT WOMAN!" - Arthur Morgan, 1899
@bababooey72345 жыл бұрын
2:48
@moodyghannam51565 жыл бұрын
That was an amazing foreshadowing from Rockstar when the kid said “or other events may transpire” and when Arthur rode in the sunset in it was an indirect message that his fate was sealed. Well done Rockstar.
@IRONMANL115 жыл бұрын
Moody GhannaM good observation
@RedemptionDenied6663 жыл бұрын
I think it also could be a foreshadowing moment of the fate of jack marston a young vengeful teenager who didn't "stick to his books" and sought revenge for the wrong doings against his father
@xxczerxx5 жыл бұрын
Arthur got Downes' Syndrome
@michaelhavedal94795 жыл бұрын
Mac Best comment.
@normiesaredegeneratesthatn33315 жыл бұрын
Underrated.
@bolican98435 жыл бұрын
Oh god 😂
@FuckFascistYouTube5 жыл бұрын
Assuming this isn't stolen, this needs way more likes
@OhHeBustin5 жыл бұрын
Oh man! Stolen sry
@FaizWuzHere5 жыл бұрын
I blame Strauss for this
@kanesmobilegamingandreacti48205 жыл бұрын
I do too strous is the one that got Arthur sick. If he didn't tell him about Mr. Downes he wouldn't have gotten tuberculosis
@jalen13535 жыл бұрын
So is the a side mission or main
@MrBanana20005 жыл бұрын
Strauss is still loyal. He died without snitching and because of that I forgive him.
@hortator07675 жыл бұрын
Mr.banana 2000 For real, I never realized he actually had that in him.
@bryansolorio85335 жыл бұрын
@@westernpolitix I thought he was german
@tojiohara5 жыл бұрын
"vengeance is an idiot's game" damn...
@CellblockWisdom5 жыл бұрын
Oh the irony...
@vulcaniso19435 жыл бұрын
John Marston played that game and lost during RD1
@user-73965 жыл бұрын
Dude I know that quote is powerful
@kaizenitouz40615 жыл бұрын
It is
@notserious64585 жыл бұрын
@@vulcaniso1943 Eh not sure id really consider it vengeance in John's case in RDR 1, he was forced back into the life by Ross. He had no intention of going after his old gang until Ross forced his hand by taking Abigail and Jack
@OneAndOnlyYEFF5 жыл бұрын
I liked the way Arthur said "where's our money" in the trailer. In game it wasn't as threatening
@user-pg1fp6pc7z5 жыл бұрын
Ayman the actual version of that trailer is the guy who owes u money near strawberry but you have to help hunt the white cougar .
@Robomonkey1015 жыл бұрын
Wrong mission
@user-pg1fp6pc7z5 жыл бұрын
Robomonkey101 right lol that mission is the one to hunt the cougar near strawberry
@Erichx145 жыл бұрын
@@deadchanneldontwatch7347 Yeah I thought his eyes were a bit too big. It was definitely an early stage Arthur.
@jesucristodenazaret.2 жыл бұрын
@@user-pg1fp6pc7z he's talking about the other trailer. That when dutch says "do you have my back?"
@maaz3225 жыл бұрын
I thought the mission where you beat up Mr. Downes was just everyday business, hell, I was pining for more of it. Didn't know it was going to be Arthur's downfall
@Merek295 жыл бұрын
There is a profound message in that.
@mrs_chin5 жыл бұрын
Seen someone wrote that they didn't take the mission but Arthur still got TB. I don't know how true that is.
@dripped865 жыл бұрын
Ms. Chin I was forced to do it in my game. I remember at the time I had a couple missions that I had to choose from, including the Thomas Downes one. I went back to the read the letter Mary Linton sent me, and it incorporated a dialogue with Strauss that eventually led me to automatically track the Downes mission as a main objective that I couldnt quit. I was mad as fuck but I wasnt expecting that lowkey
@rk_092neo5 жыл бұрын
@@dripped86 exact same thing happened with me too.
@thatotherguy42005 жыл бұрын
I ain't gone even lie B I was thinking the same... I straight beat his ass until the cutscene 😂
@ashg50795 жыл бұрын
"You ever wonder about eternity? You should" "I hope it's hot and terrible, Mrs Downes. Otherwise I'll feel I've been sold a false bit of goods" Probably my favorite line from this game.
@kiyavas18795 жыл бұрын
yeah all preachers saying hell is fire hell is torture and arthur mocking that
@jacobgomez51974 жыл бұрын
The irony of this statement when he says he's afraid taking to the sister
@Vahkii4 жыл бұрын
7:36
@kiyavas18794 жыл бұрын
@Minnesota Vi-KINGS yeah that's probably right
@cestulvarzebuskal86433 жыл бұрын
Can someone tell me what Arthur said means?
@aFinalNote5 жыл бұрын
I remember playing this for the first time. Arthur beating on the man disgusted me. He had a family, seemed determined to pay the debt, and on top of that he was feeble. As much as I love Arthur, I thought of him as a complete bastard after that. A little after he was diagnosed it dawned to me what an amazing game this was. The very family he had helped destroy would be the ones to send him to his grave. Had he shown any mercy he would have kept his health. He had personally witnessed the consequences of his actions, what he had done to a family and himself. It's crazy how much death can change a person's view. Material things lose their value and all that matters is that people be alive and well. This game is going to be very hard to top. RIP Arthur Morgan and thank you
@azariah_kyras5 жыл бұрын
Funny enough you can just threaten mr downes. You don't need to lay a finger on him.
@theoutsiderjess18695 жыл бұрын
Pest I did that and rockstar still does the cutscene anyway
@addisonyoungg80525 жыл бұрын
You hit the nail on the head this game is highly underrated. 👏🏾
@Rulancer14 жыл бұрын
@FBIOpenUp It's a shame that a lot of people seem to miss that
@unchainedsins32544 жыл бұрын
As my dad said when he saw me playing that mission "he's a mean son of a bitch"
@supermeowskers5 жыл бұрын
Is it wrong for me to cry when Arthur tells Mrs Downes and her son to leave and take the money because after that conversation I was basically left in tears. But the part that really punched me in the gut was when Arthur told her that he ruined her life and that he suffers for it everyday. The way how Arthur delivered his lines got to me especially when seeing how much he has changed over the course of my playthrough.
@mikemccoy50925 жыл бұрын
Then she goes back to whoring stupid woman
@supermeowskers5 жыл бұрын
@@mikemccoy5092 From what I heard the ordering is glitched. I've seen a playthrough where the player had Mrs Downes get caught and then does this mission.
@FuckFascistYouTube5 жыл бұрын
That scene made me cry too. The fact that Arthur is so adamant about them not thanking him.. fucking hell 😢
@thetraveler26805 жыл бұрын
supermeowskers No. it’s normal for anyone to cry at that. He may not be a real person but the game really does know how to get you emotional at times. And that conversation Arthur had with Mrs. Downes was hitting most of us hard. Me the only I almost cried was when Arthur dies at the end of the game.
@mr.offender8175 жыл бұрын
You say TB killed him? But i say TB saved him. TB turned him into a real ARTHUR MORGAN✊✊✊
@cypresswillow25915 жыл бұрын
Mr. Offender : Yo, why you only have 49 likes? Well....50 now.... But really why? There's truth in what you said. Even Arthur said it himself to Marybeth, that since he got sick, he saw life differently--clearly. In a way, since he got sick he was seeking redemption ( hence title of the game ) and do good from then on. Or at least tried. The biggest example is helping the Downes family.
@mr.offender8175 жыл бұрын
@@cypresswillow2591 and you know what happens to mrs downes and archie ;) They became wealthy because of arthur . Without him they will really gonna die in the west.
@asdddd72485 жыл бұрын
Exaclty, people are saying that arthur would not be sick if ...... but thats the point of the whole story, if he would not get TB he would propably be loyal to dutch and he would get crazy as dutch did.
@melvinvenema7745 жыл бұрын
Exactly, he turned into the man he was destined to be because of it.
@matteofernandez28234 жыл бұрын
Mr. Offender Im really sorry but , who is TB?
@victorpeterson35025 жыл бұрын
Edith: “all you can do now is decide the man you want to be for the time you have left! Help someone who can still be helped, or help yourself.” Such a good line
@masterjustin22465 жыл бұрын
Victor Peterson You gotta admit that hits hard, knowing it’s never too late to do good, even when you’re gonna knock on death’s door
@0Paronomasia05 жыл бұрын
I remember the moment that Mr Downes coughed that blood into Arthur’s face I cringed and said, “oof, I hope he doesn’t catch that” out loud. Then shrugged it off because Arthur is a video game character that can’t catch someone’s TB, right? .... RIGHT? 😭
@mohammadfurkanmir79343 жыл бұрын
hahaha... I remembered him from Valentine, when he saved the guy Arthur beat up in that bar fight... then I saw him asking for charity outside the general store in Valentine and I remembered him saving the other guy... he was coughing a lot... I thought to myself, wow he's a nice guy lets give him some money... but we couldn't and when he coughed on Arthur... I thought the same as you... but somehow I knew he was gonna catch that disease...
@ChaseEverything5 жыл бұрын
Tells Arthur he has Tuberculosis, then casually starts smoking in front of him XD Dude must have taken about 10 days off his life from that moment XD
@morgan0__o5 жыл бұрын
Also the pipes I made Arthur smoke after he got TB Now I can get ending early!
@kiyavas18795 жыл бұрын
i mean like you could smoke 60 cigarets nad 10 cigars after TB diagnoses still no goddamn effect on arthur
@MyViolador5 жыл бұрын
people back then thought that the smoke would keep the germs away.
@gerardgarcia40054 жыл бұрын
MyViolador well were they Dead wrong... Quite literally they were dead.
@destroyallbacteriad.a.b90074 жыл бұрын
He was screwed either way
@amaljudejoseph50665 жыл бұрын
"Other events will transpire" wise words
@perc305 жыл бұрын
Arthur is such a good guy. His redemption is so amazing in so many ways
@FactoryOldFork4 жыл бұрын
His... *Red Dead Redemption*
@malcolmmorin Жыл бұрын
@@FactoryOldFork "We did it, Arthur. We are Red Dead Redemption 2." -Dutch
@Tito_michi Жыл бұрын
I am always so astonished when I read words like that. This video literally SHOWS what a bad guy Arthur was. He threatened even the son of Mr Downes, an innocent boy, for God's sake. Sad to admit but he deserved tuberculosis.
@louisedwyer13659 ай бұрын
To be fair Mr Downes shouldn't of borrowed money he couldn't pay back
@lumiaxbavaria5 ай бұрын
@@Tito_michi its really hard for RDR fans to admit that Arthur did a few good things at the end of his life but overall was still a bad person, he admits as much multiple times thoughout the game himself.
@Hunterstiq5 жыл бұрын
I like people's interpretation of Arthur's look, but the only time I had a full mountain man beard was **Spoilers** Colm O'Driscol got his hands on Arthur, I just drank the Hair Tonic, Clean Shaved it as soon as Arthur was back to his shenanigans. And for the most of the game, I kept an appearance more closer to Hosea in terms of hair style and slick coat and plain vest and fancy pants. With how Arthur began to interact with Dutch, it just fit so well. In no way am I saying that "My Arthur is better than Your Arthur" but am I the only one that likes a cleaner, practical Arthur than the Mountain Man Bill look?
@samirnaief5685 жыл бұрын
I used to have him clean but after that Cuba chapter i just stop caring
@SeanEazy5 жыл бұрын
I think there's so many scenarios. From long hair with long beard, long hair no beard, no hair long beard, no hair no beard. There's so much. You do you friend. Gonna try something else next play through
@roberthipolito2105 жыл бұрын
Swept back fade at a 1 most times if i can and like a 2-4 facial hair
@Losdeff5 жыл бұрын
yooo thats what I did the more "woke" he got i dressed him like hosea and less like a cowboy lmao I even stopped wearing the hat. so when he put it back on in the end i got so happy
@Tornadic5 жыл бұрын
I thought I was the only one, I have my Arthur clean shaven and short hair to look more reformed.
@lxstrry2395 жыл бұрын
This is one of the few games that lived up to the hype on the next get consoles
@oddsock32545 жыл бұрын
Legend says the man who helped Arthur was actually gavin and he goes around the west helping those in need
@lethalchocobo18865 жыл бұрын
Dat face when he told her "You speak as if killing was something I cared about." Great facial animations and the voice actor was amazing.
@bigmoist5065 жыл бұрын
When a big, muscly man with a deep voice who is either a legendary outlaw or The God of War from Greek Mythology tells you to leave ‘the boy (boah)’ alone, you better listen.
@ilearnedhownottobejealous23015 жыл бұрын
23:00 The problem with this custscene is that you are supposed to do it first then the Honor missions, Rockstar failed there. They should have make sure that the honor mission was only unlockable after that main mission. Thank God i dindnt do that mistake and got the correct order.
@TheDanteEX5 жыл бұрын
Yeah they should have made it available only after getting to Beaver Hollow. My theory is that they felt too many side missions unlocked during Chapter 6. It's a shame so many of them are side missions because I feel like most of them make Arthur's redemption arc work so much better. Like Edith's line "help someone who can still be helped" is the perfect line to convince Arthur to help Marston and his family.
@Turk_20234 жыл бұрын
They may have fixed it because that is how it was for me, in order.
@jeffcase78274 жыл бұрын
Same here, I would have loaded a earlier save even if I did so much after.
@user-dv6nh3mu3y4 жыл бұрын
I think the right scenario of arthur morgan story is, do the bad honor first, then after he been diagonsis of TB by doctor, go straight to high honor (road to redemption), till the end
@jeffcase78274 жыл бұрын
@@user-dv6nh3mu3y To be honest that's probably a fantastic way to play the game.
@Galfadez3 жыл бұрын
The way the game let those first couple of scenes sink in by slowing showing the ride back to camp was really brilliant. More games should use this technique, giving the story space to land
@John-9962 жыл бұрын
Allot of Games even God of war Or Cyberpunk which had good stories Try to add emotion early on. I honestly dont think it has the same impact as it needs to be earned.
@lopey50354 жыл бұрын
Arthur is so brilliantly written and performed. Watching him slowly for rather than it being a quick and unexpected death like John only furthers the players attachment to Arthur's incredible growth as a character. Truly one of gamings best characters.
@joshdude26215 жыл бұрын
2:48 pimp talk
@dion97555 жыл бұрын
the second me downes coughed blood on arthur I knew he was dead and how. The fact that he spits straight after and your character gets led by the game on horseback with disturbing violin music, then he wipes his face again I knew.
@twinkbreaker_5 жыл бұрын
Dion97 fucking same
@ElMarcoHoJ5 жыл бұрын
It didn't occur to me at the time, but once I noticed Arthur's little coughs in the middle of the game, I knew something was up.
@k-dizzy8892 жыл бұрын
“Well maybe when you’re mother’s finished mourning your father, I’ll keep her in black on your behalf.” One of the absolute coldest lines ever.
@heliax99242 жыл бұрын
i dont even know what that means and i still loved it thats how good that line was
@SG-yz6pq2 жыл бұрын
@@heliax9924 He basically says that he will kill him (Archie) too if he keeps disrespecting him
@heliax99242 жыл бұрын
@@SG-yz6pq ah thanks
@cybercybex5 жыл бұрын
I got a hint on what might happen to arthur by doing one of the stranger mission in which we have to return a cart to a doctor. The doctor then gives arthur a medicinal book and says we can use it to treat any illness as long as its not "chronic" and tells us that we probably wont use it anytime soon.
@kevinf.44785 жыл бұрын
Arthur dies at the end of the story anyway
@xXFancyNinjaXx5 жыл бұрын
I like it how if you play the game twice the scene after arthur leaves the family, he's riding back wiping his face and its just a spit in your face because you know what's coming
@loganr63535 жыл бұрын
Smorf_HD Forget the second time, I knew something was up when I saw it the first time, the whole thing felt like it was setting up something much bigger. I knew that the moment a sick man coughed on Arthur he was doomed
@xXFancyNinjaXx5 жыл бұрын
@@loganr6353 yeah but the second time is worse.
@Lari_A5 жыл бұрын
Skrap Pap Pap he wipes the spit lmao he didn’t cry.
@dennishuang77644 жыл бұрын
After finishing Edith Downes's side missions and seeing her son with her happily in the end credits, it's extremely painful to rewatch the part where Arthur ruthlessly beat Thomas, the poor family was desperate, and Arthur was forcibly milking money, valuables and literally demanding everything they've got out of the family.
@TearsOfALyre5 жыл бұрын
It's these little interwoven stories that me makes realize I should have bought this and waited to buy Assassin's Creed Odyssey. Four years later, I still stand by what I said.
@Alex-tn3tq5 жыл бұрын
Odyssey was good aswell
@RUN_IT_UP_5 жыл бұрын
@@Alex-tn3tq not on rdr2's level tho
@ijustwantmyphonecall69475 жыл бұрын
Or not buy odyssey at all
@fran82755 жыл бұрын
How you compare...
@jarobano4 жыл бұрын
Odyssey has a green steam version this doesn't
@aligamerable5 жыл бұрын
When we have to beat Thomas, I didn't even press the "Beat" button. I just Held L2 and kept a lock on Thomas, after about 40 seconds, The game automatically transitions to cutscene and it shows a bruised Thomas even though I didn't hit him even once.
@colinhedrick25295 жыл бұрын
Same
@servantofallah16985 жыл бұрын
aligamerable yea me too
@jordanbiermann42925 жыл бұрын
I just threatened
@pilovwithketchup5 жыл бұрын
Which means that Arthur really wanted to beat him up
@cjv85225 жыл бұрын
When you approach him, Thomas attempts to hit Arthur and Arthur hits him back automatically. Must’ve been a pretty hard punch.
@thedarkknight7275 жыл бұрын
Arthur Morgan, the man with nothing to loose who fights for the people who still have much to loose. That's a true warrior right there. 😎
@sausage61363 жыл бұрын
It’s amazing. Ever since Arthur got tb he saw the world differently. He did good. Lots of good almost like it changed him entirely. Amazing writing
@specialoperators56145 жыл бұрын
I G O T L U M B A G O
@kimiraikkonen42265 жыл бұрын
23:06 dude should thank us from saving him from contracting syphilis or whatever nasty disease she got
@mikemccoy50925 жыл бұрын
She had it imagine how many guys she gave it too
@DIGITALGH05T5 жыл бұрын
well idk how long life expetancy was in the late 1800s but, here for a good time not a long one im guessing
@McGriddle695 жыл бұрын
Karma truly caught up with Arthur
@Bensonu3o3uq4 жыл бұрын
Not really Karma tbh
@anonnada21075 жыл бұрын
I spent so long getting max beard length only to loose it and play someone else
@kpag30304 жыл бұрын
I love these little stories woven in throughout the game. This one is so tragic. Great storytelling.
@Bluefork5 жыл бұрын
You did well with this Downes video but you miss out a clip of them in the closing credits getting on a boat and if you read a Blackwater news paper you read that she bought a golf course in California. :) Also early in chapter 2 when Arthur is having a fight in the saloon in Valentine and thrown throw a window its old man Downes that stops the fight.
@manuelhaas19602 жыл бұрын
I also would have included the random camp Event where Edith Downes approaches Strauss
@klepTeevee5 жыл бұрын
This is some sad shit
@joelgoddard52985 жыл бұрын
My only regret is that Roger Ebert isn't alive to be asked if video games are art yet.
@pineapplescat5 жыл бұрын
Joel Goddard if this game came out when ebert was on his deathbed like arthur, them yes he would if he played along with high honor lmao
@Broken_Savior3 жыл бұрын
They're still not and never will be.
@DarthDragmire3 жыл бұрын
@@Broken_Savior They are, by definition, art.
@Broken_Savior3 жыл бұрын
@@DarthDragmire They're glorified toys. Shut up and admit it, or at the very least draw up a better case other than the reverse card, you bland fuckwit. Games are not Art.
@diegorubio26253 жыл бұрын
@@Broken_Savior Why so agressive though. Videogames are indeed a form of art, they're called the tenth art but they're not "official" like Painting, Music, Literature, etc. I personally don't think they should be added to the official numeration -bc they offer more of a service than an artistic experience- but it is undeniable that there is art in the making of videogames, there are beautifully written stories, there are pieces of music composed for them, artwork and visuals, which by themselves we would probably classify as any other piece of art.
@luxeternity5 жыл бұрын
Wait.. is arthur hallucinates Thomas downes helping him even after what he had done to him ? Bcs the face model looks the same
@KidxSnap5 жыл бұрын
Good eye mate too similar to be a coincidence
@joeylatz76115 жыл бұрын
conehead larry I’m asking the same shit. I’m pretty sure it’s him
@spambamkeija6345 жыл бұрын
life can be like that in the real world too.
@Ryuujiish5 жыл бұрын
Holy shit...
@bobolinkr5 жыл бұрын
Nope, that is the German guy he rescues from the lemoyn raiders, whose family was under the coach in the dried river bed.
@hamyweer28454 жыл бұрын
I like how the doc says "sorry son, it's a hell of a thang." Then lights up a pipe indoors. Ohhhh the sanitation in the olden days. Hahahah!
@misterfister5810 Жыл бұрын
If Arthur was wearing his bandanna while confronting that man, this whole thing with Arthur getting sick wouldn’t happen
@Positivethinking2 Жыл бұрын
He pulls it down during the cutscene...I think someone tested that
@Christof12262 жыл бұрын
This game will stick with me forever it does an amazing job showing how redemption actually is of going from bad to a good man and doing many things to help people for the time you have left to make an impact and be a good man in the end
@leed95485 жыл бұрын
Rockstar needs to give us the choice to avoid this mission so he wont get TB.......😢
@SeanEazy5 жыл бұрын
That would be crazy. Like if you have bad honor at the end Micah still kills you but good honor we get like a Cutscene of how Arthur got away to "Tihiti" or whatever.
@bendaonfire00785 жыл бұрын
@@SeanEazy if we wouldnt have TB we could beat micah for sure for god sake we almost beat him when nearly dead.
@faza87watch5 жыл бұрын
Well yeah, I wish. but this isn't RPG dude, it's part of the story.
@oliv3rjosh5 жыл бұрын
He still would have to die
@baja85665 жыл бұрын
@Mike Litoris no recipe, only ingredients
@ARCtrooperblueleader5 жыл бұрын
Respectfully, Morgan would have died sickness or not. Knowing Morgan.... {MAJOR SPOILERS BELOW}. He would have sacrificed himself for John. Arthur was THE guy. The one who tried to do right by the gang and others when possible. Sickness did not make that path.
@EfecanYSL5 жыл бұрын
@Rorschach arthur only stayed behind because he was at the end of his life. he had no energy to run or do anything. he would only slow down john and that would get both of them killed. had he not been sick. he would have the energy and strength to run away with john.
@Cinna3unnz5 жыл бұрын
@@Username-wk7ni yea. I bet he would have helped john kill those agents
@bobolinkr5 жыл бұрын
Not when I'm playing.. I keep the the camp box empty, do no chores, collect no requests, and antagonize the shit outta them til I get punched out xD
@robe1879mft5 жыл бұрын
@@bobolinkr im doing the exact same thing
@TheAtlbravos225 жыл бұрын
ARCtrooperblueleader I think if Arthur never got sick, he would’ve escaped with John.
@ryanp39075 жыл бұрын
Didn't exactly have to put the last clip in...
@W0LFB3AT54 жыл бұрын
2:25 TB: “I’m about to ruin this mans life...”
@TheThunder1154 жыл бұрын
Tuberculosis may have killed Arthur physically, but in his heart, the disease made him the strongest he could have ever been. Long live the King of Redemption.
@KidxSnap5 жыл бұрын
I'm salty none of the husband's family got the disease.. Even the mom that hoe'd herself out in the 1800's lived till she was old miraculously. Arthur could've lived man smh
@OldManEsteban5 жыл бұрын
not really, this is prequel meaning he will die or was never seen again
@KidxSnap5 жыл бұрын
@@OldManEsteban I wish he could live in hiding or something peacefully. They did too well attaching me to the protagonist
@OldManEsteban5 жыл бұрын
@@KidxSnap like john in rdr1?
@KidxSnap5 жыл бұрын
@@LWolf32 Idk about this... I didn't tear up when John died 😂
@KidxSnap5 жыл бұрын
@@OldManEsteban John never could keep his cool tho, he left a trail wherever he went & couldn't keep his story straight... Killing a guy cuz he looked at em funny while he's on the run with his family. John was doomed. I feel like Arthur was smarter, I could be biased
@terraLiquidus5 жыл бұрын
“Other events” did transpire. Arthur becoming cognizant of his soul, chief among them.
@MinimiB20005 жыл бұрын
"Thanks, buddy" Even with the serious tone of the whole scene. That cracks me up.
@moon-knight21255 жыл бұрын
The i suffer from it everyday part gets to me
@kamicloudss Жыл бұрын
I like how even though it’s not Arthur’s idea to beat down on this family and ruin their life, he’s still punished for being the enforcer. Even though Arthur has a redemption arc it’s not like other stories where they get off consequence free. Arthur has to watch the only family he ever knew deteriorate while he deteriorates physically from a disease he got from a man he wronged.
@jollyrioger25725 жыл бұрын
I played the mission out of sequence and the game made it feel like Mrs Downes went back to Annesburg after I saved her and gave her money to leave LOL. They gotta fix that bug cause that's just sad and confusing
@kyle8575 жыл бұрын
I had that too.
@Mr.HotDogShirtGuy5 жыл бұрын
No I’m pretty sure that’s how it happens... she goes back to whoring herself out.
@ElMarcoHoJ5 жыл бұрын
@@Mr.HotDogShirtGuy No, during the end credits you see her and Archie looking healthier and in nicer clothes departing somewhere on a boat.
@Pheonix662564 жыл бұрын
When Arthur Agreed To Hit The Valentine Bank He Should Have Said “Sure” Instead Of “Okay Then”
@JustaFupa03155 жыл бұрын
how'd you get the confederate flat cap? Beat the shit out of the civil war vet?
@SeanEazy5 жыл бұрын
There's a house burglary mission with lenny You steal a wagon of dynamite. This house becomes the chapter 4 safe house.
@SeanEazy5 жыл бұрын
@The Flying Dutchman shady belle indeed.
@Merek295 жыл бұрын
Damn near all the lemoyne raiders have one.
@JustaFupa03155 жыл бұрын
@@Merek29 well bud, I've hardly played through any of the story. Sorry I'm not as knowledgeable as you massa
@ReviewingMagnet5 жыл бұрын
You can get two Confederate hats, a Officer's Hat and a variant of the flat cap I believe, from some special spawns of Leymone Raiders like the church near the civil war site. They get saved to your wardrobe as "Stolen Hats"
@liberty55655 жыл бұрын
Arthur is the best character of any game I've played.
@etiennekosa4 жыл бұрын
" I hope it's hot and terrible Mrs Downes, otherwise I'll feel I've been sold a false bill of goods".
@augart89 Жыл бұрын
The way in which Arthur tries to convey how sorry and ashamed he is because of his actions really show how much he changed. He had a rough uprbinging, so I believe it wasn´t particularly easy for him to be that expressive and emotional. In fact, and in spite of the fact that he did some bad things, I believe he did not change: the circumstances just ended up showing more of who he truly was like. He had some level of sense and empathy, unlike Dutch.
@fikrifadillah32475 жыл бұрын
Wow, Arthur was an honorable man. Respect
@alexroman85765 жыл бұрын
I remember that Downes mission making me uneasy, it didn’t feel good beating the hell out of him like that, but it all served a purpose in the end, truly genius writing on Rockstar’s part. Amazing how everything seems to serve a purpose in one way or another whether it be the world or the characters or strangers. 10/10, best game I’ve ever played.
@MoskHotel5 жыл бұрын
You can actually meet Thomas Downes in Valentine before and during the bar fight mission.
@billyherrington1355 жыл бұрын
When he says good day and the eerie music kicks in it's so unsettling
@erikkillmomger99915 жыл бұрын
Is that how he got sick
@OldManEsteban5 жыл бұрын
he mentions it in side mission
@splinteridiot5 жыл бұрын
Read his Journal after he finds out he has tuberculosis and it mentions that Mr. Downes was probably the one who given it to him.
@mattancherinarco5 жыл бұрын
That bitch spit on his face intentionally
@OldManEsteban5 жыл бұрын
@@mattancherinarco not a bitch, a man dying and desperate
@jes81295 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@JJoa745 жыл бұрын
I beat the game, and still never knew that Thomas Downes was the one who infected him.
@normiesaredegeneratesthatn33315 жыл бұрын
Same.
@gagenelson47355 жыл бұрын
I’ll keep ‘er in black, on your behalf. *damn Arthur*
@NightShadeGame4 жыл бұрын
I'm a bit of a moron whats he implying here?
@Stak04 жыл бұрын
Attack_OnMuffin keep her in debt; threatening him and his mom
@NightShadeGame4 жыл бұрын
@@Stak0 ahh okay I was thinking something around the line's of killing either her or the boy, that makes more sense tho, thanks :)
@jackhanno49694 жыл бұрын
AKMEISTER no, he’s meaning he will keep her wearing black. Like the black you wear to a funeral
@michaeltownley91445 жыл бұрын
8:06 Does that line make anyone else wonder if the kid already suspected that Arthur had caught tuberculosis from his father? He knew he was ill after all, and saw Arthur getting up close to beat him up.
@birdfanboi5 жыл бұрын
Very heartwarming story telling, it even made me shed a tear
@unclebenjamin98255 жыл бұрын
20:37 This hit me hard...
@McGriddle695 жыл бұрын
I love how this isn't really something you'd think alot about going through the game until Arthur gets Tuberculosis and you start to think back and think of this little snippet
@rubestiatruth7315 жыл бұрын
Bad decisions exists. But like arthur said, we can't change what's done, only move on
@NASA-sl6yg3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I think the guy that saves him in saint denis is a memory of Tomas downes
@thecowboy96983 жыл бұрын
This is probably the very first time that Arthur Morgan ever got to see the consequences of his actions up close and personal. It's easy to be apathetic about the choices and decisions you make, when you never get to see the full impact they have. After this, and his diagnosis, he reevaluated everything about his life, and he finally, if you will, made a full confession to the Nun about just what a no good bastard he had been. He realized how he threw away everything that was ever good in his life for the gang, like Mary, Eliza and his son, and how the life he had lived basically left him with nothing.
@Guine5232 жыл бұрын
3:01 that drawn out cinematic with the ominous music was really subtle yet clever. It’s like Rockstar wanted you to think about what just happened, at the time it flew over me until Arthur got back to camp in my first play through. By the time I was out of the cutscene I thought for a second that for just going back to camp that was an unusually drawn out cutscene, I didn’t think much of it after that but for a moment I partly started to realize something was wrong
@Salvage10092 жыл бұрын
I think it was intentional too! Super subtle, him wiping the blood off his mouth. Right then we knew Arthur’s fate was sealed, sadly
@Assassinboy8084fun5 жыл бұрын
To me, this is the most touching side story in any game I’ve played
@JackEstacio4 жыл бұрын
I knew there was something fishy about that mission. All that cello..
@timmyl63984 жыл бұрын
People in the comments are blaming Mr. Downes or Strauss for Arthur's fate but I don't think that's what the game is trying to convey. It was Arthur's choice to listen to Strauss, Arthur's choice to go the house, Arthur's choice to beat up the Mr. Downes and Arthur's choice not to forgive the debt. As Arthur says "he was a fool". In a way, the TB helped to redeem himself, making him into the amazing character we all love.
@louisedwyer13659 ай бұрын
At the end of day Thomas shouldn't of borrowed money he couldn't pay back. As Strauss implied they tried the nice approach but Thomas was pulling a fast one robbing them off
@joaofodao31665 жыл бұрын
The doctor says to go to somewhere warm and dry: What if you head down to new austin and stay a few days in armadillo or some other place in the desert ? It would be a pretty cool way to unlock a secret ending. Either that or wearing a bandana when confronting mr Downes.
@LucDutra925 жыл бұрын
Then not only would Arthur have TB but also cholera.
@AftermathInsights4 ай бұрын
the subtle sound when the doc gives him the diagnosis is real well placed
@Killzoneguy1175 жыл бұрын
To think, if Arthur had just "nah I'm good" to Strauss, he'd never get tuberculosis. He'd probably kill Micah with ease. John could then go and live a peaceful life with his family, Arthur could maybe get together with Mary and they could run Beecher's Hope with John and his family, and everyone would get a happy ending, including the Downes.
@normiesaredegeneratesthatn33315 жыл бұрын
It sucks it wasn't a choice or an optional mission.
@Tito_michi Жыл бұрын
No. Arthur started valuing peaceful and honest life only after he realised his soon death. He would have remained an outlaw and despised John's choice, marking him as "coward". Replay chapter 1, Arthur is absolutely ruthless and cynical.
@dennishuang77644 жыл бұрын
RDR2 certainly speaks to it's title "Redemption" more than RDR1
@nguyenthanhhai67254 жыл бұрын
Mean while the LoU 2 speaks for its "Last". Lol.
@OcherGoose5 жыл бұрын
Wait a second : why did arthur get TB from the farmer, but the farmer wife didn't ? They sleep together, kiss eachother and all, but she's not sick ?
@fletch22755 жыл бұрын
I doubt he would want to sleep or kiss her if hehad TB.
@darthrevan-de2si5 жыл бұрын
it possible that the family knew about the disease and to keep away from him when he was coughing it up.
@chokonnit73375 жыл бұрын
@@sunwukong5413 it's spread by coughs or sneezes. *direct* coughs or sneezes.
@spartankongcountry67995 жыл бұрын
@@chokonnit7337 Its an airborne disease. As long as the holder is talking, it's getting out there.
@chokonnit73375 жыл бұрын
@@spartankongcountry6799 in that case it would've killed everybody in the world except for the few cases of being in a remote area.
@lukebailey36624 жыл бұрын
I knew after that long cutscene ride home after beating Mr. Downes that something was up. The music, cutscene etc
@kimiraikkonen42265 жыл бұрын
3:32 tuberculosis infection early symptom, I tried burning the downes whole farm down on my 2nd playthrough to be safe
@Fl4m3tu55 жыл бұрын
Kimi Räikkönen niin minäkin kimi
@Lari_A5 жыл бұрын
Kimi Räikkönen uh? that was just him wiping his face, not a symptom.
@maxcampcamp17185 жыл бұрын
Larissa you are both right and wrong,wiping your face isn’t a symptom,but a symptom is feeling strange.
@Assassinboy8084fun5 жыл бұрын
15:11 this close up shot and that line delivery was really something else