Re-Lifing Older Sailing Yachts Using WEST SYSTEM Products

[@fernandofert9960]

It's aways a pleasure to see Gandalf and Pippin together again.

[@bobhunter9057]

Interesting to see this - we've been working on our wooden 46 foot ketch for several years. She was the plug for the Oyster 46 so she's similar to Squalo but next size up. We use West System - and have had great support from Wessex when we've needed it.

[@RT-np5ws]

Lovely to see peeps who know their products

[@johnwaga3702]

What a fascinating video, thank you.

[@worksafetrainingsystems2138]

Great video Tom. Very informative enjoyed it

[@jonelliott9553]

Another great video and right on time as I start on some new projects. Thank you Tom!

[@CRAIGMCLEAN-ANDERSON]

Wow! I read your book. Thoroughly loved it and my boat is at Brandyhole (on the river Crouch for those who don't know) How marvellous to have found this video!

[@131storm]

Piękna łódź (świetna marka), piękna życiowa idea. Wygląda również na świetną robotę. Pozdrawiam, i trzymam kciuki za skuteczną realizację planów.

[@sailingsqualo]

Serdecznie dziękujemy ☺️ dajemy z siebie wszystko aby doprowadzić ten remont do końca. Nie taki był zamiar kiedy zaczynaliśmy, szacowaliśmy pracę na parę lat 🙈 ale skoro zaszliśmy już tak daleko, szkoda by było się poddać. Squalo is one lucky lady to have me and Ziggy looking after her. Pozdrawiamy! 🥰 Ziggy & Natalia @Sailing_Squalo

[@DanLeeBoatbuilding]

Brilliant 👌

[@reloadncharge9907]

Well done, great episode! Hope you are hunkered down on the Hamble….thanks, Andrew

[@adamkinsey3139]

Loved this video!! Incredibly informative and fun to meet these characters. The music could use some work…but this brightened my evening. Keep em coming!!!

[@wisenber]

I had the fortune of meeting Meade Gugeon, one of the West Systems co-founders the year that he passed away. He completed a solo Everglades Challenge in a boat he had made himself. He didn't tell anyone at the challenge that he had terminal cancer.

[@maciejtrybilo]

All the best to the homies. Subscribed to their channel. Had I still lived in London I'd probably volunteer a weekend or two just for kicks.

[@sailingsqualo]

Aww man, thanks 🤗 that’s really nice of you.

[@janisspalvins677]

Thanks for video. Can you please tell - what is the boat model and size?

[@sailingsqualo]

The first one that appears in the video is our dear Oyster 39 designed by Holman and Pye and built in 1981. It was their first yacht designed solely for cruising. The wooden boat that is later in the video is a 46’ Pilot House Ketch designed by John Negus.

[@KenDavies-qv3fs]

Thanks Tom

[@mattdouglas5570]

Do these people have their own channel?

[@robgorman8961]

www.youtube.com/@sailingsqualo

[@robgorman8961]

www.youtube.com/@WestSystemEpoxy/featured

[@TomCunliffeYachtsandYarns]

Yes they do. www.youtube.com/@sailingsqualo Don't miss it.; It's Frank, honest and entertaining too.

[@paulcharlesworth-bq7id]

What model is this beautiful old oyster

[@sailingsqualo]

It is a first Oyster build for cruising, Oyster 39. 🥰

[@rmcnabb]

Gotta ask...for the money and certainly for the work expended...couldn't they just find a better boat?

[@TomCunliffeYachtsandYarns]

It has been said by wiser men than me that every mackerel must hang by its own tail. We all have different tastes. The important thing is to believe in what you are doing and to do it well. I never saw anybody do it better than Ziggy and Nat. And by the way, the boat is considered by many to be a modern classic.

[@PaulBKal]

Considering the many manifest faults of modern boats, there’s a very strong argument to make that the best boats are old boats that you rebuild and equip with modern fittings and electronics, etc. It can be as little as half the price of a comparable boat say 10 years old, albeit with a heap of work. But it does get you a boat you can trust.

[@Edward-bn2vw]

I can't get through this video, due to the poundshop music.

[@contessa26-jim]

Me too, absolutely ruins it, shame

[@pieromengarelli9549]

Right or wrong !? But I've had it explained that you don't Epoxy treat the whole iron / lead keel. Instead, you cut out a groove a bit down, on the iron or the lead. This is to avoid the epoxy and the fiberglass cracking if you run aground (Rock). Then the water will slowly find its way up.... Whereupon rot begins to form, eventually. Like I said... Right or Wrong !? best regards. Piero Mengarelli Stockholm Sweden. 😊⛵

[@TomCunliffeYachtsandYarns]

Hi Piero. I'll leave this one to the experts. Tom

[@pieromengarelli9549]

@@TomCunliffeYachtsandYarns Hi Tom.... Yes, do that. I really want to know. Has a small Koster sailing boat. She's like a mini Colin Archer. 8.14 X 2.64 X 1.4 meters. For which I am thinking of using epoxy and fiberglass. The hull is in very good condition. Mahogany on Oak. By the way, we met at Systembolaget in Kalmar, one or two years ago. It was an honor to meet you...!! 😊⛵⚓

[@ximono]

@@pieromengarelli9549 Hey, that sounds a lot like my "mini Colin Archer" built in Oslo in the 60s (7.62 x 2.48 x 1.4 meters, oregon pine on oak). Its constructor, Sigurd Herbern, called it a small "skøyte" (pilot boat), as it was intentionally drawn to resemble the original Colin Archers. It has recently been upgraded to a gaff rig, so it even looks the part now. It looks a bit like an old Koster boat too, they're from the same area really. I'm not a fan of wrapping old wooden boats in epoxy. To my eyes, that makes it no longer a wooden boat, it loses all the appeal for me. But this is a matter of taste of course. If one chooses to convert it to a fiberglass boat, one have to be very careful about how it's done. The wood has to be absolutely sealed both inside and out, or bad things will happen (any water that gets in will cause it to rot badly, and good luck repairing that). This much I learned from a Swedish book I read on the topic. _Vårda din träbåt_ - _Take care of your wooden boat_ - was the ironic title. It turned out to be about converting wooden boats to fiberglass boats using West System. According to the book, it's also very expensive and time consuming work. To me, it's just not worth the money, effort and risk, unless the alternative is to sink/chop/burn the boat, and you like the hull shape. But I can recommend the book if you're interested in the method, it goes into great detail. If a wooden boat is in good condition, I'd much rather keep it as a wooden boat in good condition. All it takes is regular traditional maintenance. "If it ain't broke, don't try to fix it" is good advice. PS. Since you write from Stockholm, I have to say I loved the show _Micke's båt_ on SVT. That's my kind of wooden boat maintenance, with linseed oil and canvased deck. Much nicer to work with than epoxy 🙂

[@IronCurtainTwitcher]

@@ximono John's boat was built as an epoxy wood boat from new so different scenario, I thought epoxy degraded in sunlight so interested to know how uv protection is achieved, traditional wood boats are great but maintenance is on a different level

[@ximono]

@@IronCurtainTwitcher Yes, that's another story. It's an interesting way to build boats. Maybe the epoxy has UV protection? The amount of maintenance with a wooden boat depends on the type of boat, and what looks you're going for. If you don't do 20-40 layers of varnish but instead go with linseed oil or paint, and a rougher working boat look, you can shave off a few hundred hours. And if you stay on top of things, I've heard it's not much more work than to keep a glassfiber boat shipshape and Bristol fashion. And that if you neglect maintenance for a year or two, more serious issues will crop up, taking much more time than if you had kept up with maintenance. It's my first winter with a wooden boat, though, so I don't have any experience myself yet. But I hope what I've been told is correct.

[@RHP9898]

The discussion about epoxied soaked diagonal veneers is hardly latest thinking, the hot moulded Atalanta 26 from the mid 1950's was built this way.

[@esvarwyn]

Gurit Epoxy products are a million times better than West System!

[@SavingMaverick55]

TotalBoat epoxy is just as good as west but for a good bit less money. Of course, I don't think they ship outside of North America so you guys across the drink might be S.O.L...

[@danknox9986]

Your video is an advertisement. Kind of a disappointment.

[@TomCunliffeYachtsandYarns]

Sorry if it disappoints you Dan. It costs a lot and takes a deal of time to go all the way to Essex with a film crew to make a video like this, so thanks to Wessex Resins and especially David Johnson who made it possible. Cheers Boys!

[@alexovnz]

Bro, seriously, wake up! 😅

[@danknox9986]

@@TomCunliffeYachtsandYarns I totally understand the costs of any commercial enterprise. Guess I was just hoping your videos would not become that. But I wish you all the very best going forward.

[@patrickhorgan8389]

There's a lot one can learn from this video.

[@teaandbicycles]

I'm so anti-advert that I'm unaware of the new technology out there. I'm very appreciative that Tom does these with West system.

[@bsbullshit2024]

I'm sorry, but I had to vote down. As interesting as this project is, it meant nothing since we didn't see the before picture, which I imagine the owner must have. Also what's the economic decision behind this project is very interesting. It's just a boring video about nothing