The CLAIMED Best Anchor in the World! Ultra vs Rocna vs Mantus Anchors

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Practical Sailor

Practical Sailor

Күн бұрын

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@atxsailor452
@atxsailor452 Күн бұрын
We have a 60kg Ultra on our 62’ sailboat and 90% of the time are anchoring in 70’ to 90’ of depth. We also have 380’ of 3/8” SS chain and typically just do 3:1/2.5:1 scope and have never had our anchor drag. Have spent more than 450 nights at anchor since 2020 and they have always woken well rested knowing that our Ultra was doing its job!
@stevemay9594
@stevemay9594 Күн бұрын
Greetings. Thank you for the video. I have a 132 lb Ultra on my 53 foot 45,000 lb cat. Cruising in Med, Morocco, Caribbean, US East Coast etc… I set this anchor with 3 to 1 scope, pull back at 2300 RPM, and then add another 30 feet with the bridle. (In very shallow water I use more scope to stop jerking in wind gusts, but not to improve holding). This anchor sets in its own length every time! If it does not set with 3 to 1 scope I re-anchor. The only exception is sloppy mud in the Chesepeake which requires letting the anchor sink into the mud and a little more scope before pulling back. I have anchored all over the world with Delta, and Bruce, and this anchor lives up to the claims.
@pmorph
@pmorph Күн бұрын
my preference is the Excel. It's saved me several times in extremely nasty conditions. SV Panope has it at #3 now after it was at the top for several years--the Viking also looks interesting
@sailinghaldis
@sailinghaldis Күн бұрын
SV Panope has the best anchor tests.
@phanttomracer
@phanttomracer Күн бұрын
The Spade held at a 1:1 scope in their tests. The spade CAN bury deep. I often struggle to free mine! It is a rock star, just not a big of a name, but it is what the others copied!
@windfall35
@windfall35 Күн бұрын
Those tests seemed to suggest that the Viking was an all-round outstanding hook….
@sebastiaanhoenderdos7458
@sebastiaanhoenderdos7458 Күн бұрын
​@@windfall35looks like it is, is there other data that suggests otherwise? I am considering buying a Viking or Rocna
@windfall35
@windfall35 Күн бұрын
@@sebastiaanhoenderdos7458. I have a doc an and have never had a moments unease with it…. I think the testing this guy does in various bottoms is hard to argue with…
@sailinghaldis
@sailinghaldis Күн бұрын
@@sebastiaanhoenderdos7458 yes, ROCK now, Viking, Mantus. I have an ultra on my Hallberg Rassy and although the ultra looks awesome, I did have trouble getting it to grab in some anchorages in the Mediterranean. That may not be because of the anchor itself, but rather the substrate. Because of of the small patches of sand amongst the Posidonia, you definitely need an anchor that’s going to set quick. It may have been because of my own paranoia, but I always felt like other people’s anchors were doing better than mine.
@leiflindqvist9095
@leiflindqvist9095 Күн бұрын
I've been using anchors since the 1970s, they looked different and were more exciting to trust many times back then. Modern anchors are superior but no anchor is best on all bottom types. Generally speaking, the Rocna we have used in recent years is very reliable. Good enough not to consider investing a fortune in an Ultra.
@greenfeilds...1
@greenfeilds...1 Күн бұрын
We put a 132lb Ultra on our boat and i can attest that it is an excellent anchor that does set instantly everytime. I was also able to test its reset in pretty extreme conditions. 50-60 knot breeze from an incoming thunderstorm pushed us over our anchor at 3-4 knots with 150ft of chain out ( we are a 30ton sailboat ). when we got to the end of the chain the anchor set so fast the chain went tight and the boat did not move more than a few feet. The next day when we left the anchorage the anchor was set so hard/deep that we had to drive forward on the chain to get the anchor to release from the bottom. Ill also mention that the anchorage we were in is not known for good holding. I agree their web site could use some proof reading but dealing with them in the states has been great, i bought it directly from them and it was an easy and smooth transaction. If you compare the other anchors with good reviews in their stainless offerings the pricing of the ultra is not that far apart and infact i have seen the 121 pound stainless rocna online for $6900 where the 132lb Ultra i bought was $5700 ( $6000 shipped) so you may want to compare apples to apples because the galvanized to stainless is not at all a fair comparison. The stainless mantus is about $4200 but its a bolt together anchor which i think is very overpriced at $4200 because its very easy to manufacture, much less cost involved. so at $1500 more than the mantus i think the ultra is a bargain. We also bought their flip swivel which is a great product.
@langstonholland9272
@langstonholland9272 Күн бұрын
50-60 knot "breeze". Funny. : )
@greenfeilds...1
@greenfeilds...1 Күн бұрын
@@langstonholland9272 is it funny im calling it a Breeze? It was more than a breeze for sure, It lasted about 30-40 min. Breeze probably is understating what it was. I had seen the forecast and there were Tstorms forecast but no warnings about severe weather so i was not overly concerned. When that hit it was pretty scary. We had anchored where we did because we were sheltered from the prevailing wind/waves and this storm from the other direction put us with a lee shore and if we dragged it would have been catastrophic. I do usually let out 7:1 scope if we have room so i was more than the 5:1 and its all 3/8 chain. I sleep well at night knowing the ground tackle is the best we could get and if we held in that then we would hold in just about anything.
@AdrianVicker1
@AdrianVicker1 Күн бұрын
I had a delta fitted from the factory, after two seasons diving to check I purchased an Ultra this season. I can honestly say never once has it failed to set. Even in a blow it holds firm. Yes it’s expensive but if your pride and joy is on the other end it’s worth the extra. I had considered a Rocna but it wouldn’t fit under the bowsprit. A happy Ultra owner with a Jeanneau 410.
@glowingfatedie
@glowingfatedie Күн бұрын
"the galvanized to stainless is not at all a fair comparison" Well, a galvanized to galvanized comparison can't be made at all. Since this is all we have, it's fair enough.
@greenfeilds...1
@greenfeilds...1 23 сағат бұрын
@@glowingfatedie the other brands offer stainless so compare the their stainless prices. The rocna for example cost more in stainless than the ultra in a similar size anchor. So the comparison he did is not at all fair.
@JohnSchwartz-w6h
@JohnSchwartz-w6h Күн бұрын
The ultra looks and is almost identical to the Spade anchor. I love the Spade!
@jaysonlima7196
@jaysonlima7196 Күн бұрын
My working anchor is a 15 lb Rocna, with 200' of chain. I love it, its done me very well as a general purpose anchor over the past fifteen years. Unfortunately space is a little linited on my boat (Catalina 30) so it is all alone uo there. My stern anchor is a 15 lb fortress that gets used infrequently but is set up with 30' of chain and 150' of ½” three strand nylon. While my storm anchor is another fortress an FX 55, which is 30 something pounds and in the hand full of times I've deployed it it has served me very well all the way up to 55 knots sustained. While my dinghy gets a small 5 lb Danforth clone (Hooker i believe but I'm nit sure without checking) it does what I want it to. Overall I like the anchors I carry,
@BuckTravis
@BuckTravis Күн бұрын
I have two. Their performance is unmatched. After sailing (40’ Pearson) and using a plow, then another plow on a 55’ trawler my current boat came with a pair of them. They set fast and hold like glue every where we anchor. Chesapeake mud to Bahamian sand and New England mud. I sleep soundly . 7:1 scope and a Mantus bridle. This on a 65’ Fleming. Great video BTW. Thanks for the post.
@sveoti
@sveoti Күн бұрын
I have had a Rocna and loved it. The Utra is way better. I swapped to the Ultra and swivel a few years ago. (I’ve used the Mantus on charter boats). I’ve also had a few like Lewmar. The Ultra sets fast, sets hard, holds like a demon, and never skips. The Rocna will skip sometimes then sets hard. I’ve also had rocks foul the hoop on other anchors. I don’t tell adults how to spend their money, and don’t listen to people who tell me how to spend mine. My anchor, safety gear, and dinghy are the best I can afford. I’ve toured the Ultra facility in Fort Lauderdale and talked extensively with the guys from Europe. The company seems pretty solid.
@svcyclops
@svcyclops Күн бұрын
I did 5 years and many night on my Rocna. I switched boats and now enjoy the Ultra. My new boat did not have space for a rocna roll bar. The ultra coupled with my cortex anchor alarm produces a good night of sleep.
@rodwaski
@rodwaski Күн бұрын
We have the 35kg ultra on our 40ft Cat. Its a small investment compared to the boat and happy to sleep well knowing we have good ground tackle. Also we are cruising the med in crowded anchorages so running the shorter scope , and shallow draft if needed sometimes lets us tuck into places we may not be able to, conditions permitting.
@WillN2Go1
@WillN2Go1 Күн бұрын
Great point, being able to use shorter scope. This is a huge plus especially for cats, which swing differently from monohulls, and especially in the crowded Med. Insurance companies should give discounts for really good anchors.
@gregsage1605
@gregsage1605 Күн бұрын
I have had such comfort with my Mantus in heavy winds, sketchy bottoms and shorter scope than I would like to have had, that I am convinced that I don't need any more from an anchor than I have. Months on anchor in the Pacific North West, BC and SE Alaska, set first time every time and never dragged once. And if I ever lose it, I'm buying another one.
@petermcminn9508
@petermcminn9508 Күн бұрын
Yes, our Mantus 35 performs admirably, also in the same PNW / BC waters. The shank bent once when it was caught under something large in 6-foot swell. Mantus replaced it ASAP.
@tomehman843
@tomehman843 22 сағат бұрын
I have used all sorts of anchors over the past 34 years and can honestly say that the Mantus M1 was one of the best, extremely quick in grabbing and holds very well. I wouldn't hesitate to get another, however, I was a lucky winner of the Ultra Marine giveaway which gave me a deep discount on their anchor, which is probably the only way I could afford one. I bought their 60 Lb. for my 41 foot monohull and have used it now for over two years mostly on the Chesapeake, where the bottom is mostly mush. One thing that sets the Ultra apart from the Mantus is that the Ultra is a diving anchor where the Mantus just buries to the hoop. Both hold exceptionally well but when it comes to pulling up the anchor, the Ultra is noticeably harder to extract from the seabed, which tells me that it holds better. I often have to pull the chain until straight over the anchor, let it sit for a bit then I still need to use a strong forward throttle to break it free.
@ColinsMarine
@ColinsMarine Күн бұрын
I’ve used Ultras for over a decade, they are worth every penny, great setting and best holding!!
@timevans8223
@timevans8223 Күн бұрын
The Ultra is a copy of a Spade. It's almost identical. The Spade has a hollow shaft. The Spade is full of lead. The Spadehas thr little wings on the end as well. The Spade is impossible to lie upsade down.
@rb239rtr
@rb239rtr Күн бұрын
I have an oversize Mantus, it works great. I have always let wind action set the anchor, never a problem
@robertlee8042
@robertlee8042 Күн бұрын
There is no best anchor. There are best anchorers.
@asw20
@asw20 Күн бұрын
Sarca Excel is a fantastic alternative to the more expensive Ultra. Had several advantages to anchors with a roll bar. Won't part with mine!
@BRuas9080
@BRuas9080 Күн бұрын
Really interesting proposals from this Ultra anchor; it seems like a truly superior product. However, the SV PANOPE channel, which specializes in anchor tests and seems to conduct very comprehensive and detailed evaluations, does not list this anchor among the best of the best. According to this channel, although the Ultra performs significantly better than the Rocna, it falls short when compared to the Mantus and Viking anchors. Did you happen to see these SV PANOPE tests?
@gregbrazier209
@gregbrazier209 Күн бұрын
My take on the tests by Steve of SV Panope is the Ultra is the best because it always performs in every seabed. Although it doesn’t have the top holding power. That said , I bought an Excel.
@phanttomracer
@phanttomracer Күн бұрын
Knock off of the spade, which tested better in PS tests years ago
@starboardfilms
@starboardfilms Күн бұрын
I've held very well in strong reversing current with 3:1, with my Mantus 65 on my 33,000lb sailboat
@markosterman4974
@markosterman4974 19 сағат бұрын
A year ago we replaced our Bruce with a 33kg Vulcan. We looked at the Ultra and appreciated all its features but could not justify the cost. I suspect the Vulcan sets as quickly and holds as well as the Ultra, at a fraction of the cost. In our first season with it we never dragged and rode out a number of gales, some with a pretty big fetch. We have zero regrets in our anchor choice and used the cost savings from NOT buying the Ultra on other upgrades to our Oceanis 473.
@WillN2Go1
@WillN2Go1 Күн бұрын
And don't forget the Ultra Flip Swivel for the 60 lb (27kg) Ultra. It's ... 1879€ so another U$D2000. I'm with you Tim, I have no doubt it's the best. I've watched a lot of anchor test videos. Wow. I can't afford it, but I sure want to rubber neck if I see one on the freeway. I was told that my 45lb is undersized for my 46' Hunter... and it probably is, but my Hunter's been to Tahiti, New Zealand and back to California... and it's still where I last left it... So I guess my Delta anchor is still okay. I do have Rocna dreams.... But, until I have an extra $800, I'll just keep letting out more scope.
@petershone1533
@petershone1533 Күн бұрын
Brace for some heresy... I have a 45lb CQR that I paid £20 (yes twenty pounds) for as it was being used as a garden ornament, complete with white gloss paint. I know these are supposed to be old fashioned and not work, but I've tested it with a 40' 12 ton boat in 50kn of wind and it held tight through three tide changes. The joint is not worn, the tip not blunted, it resets fast. I use it with at least 5:1 scope, in faxt unless I am in a tight space I go 7:1. The CQR replaced a Lewmar Delta which dragged three times on 5:1 or more scope, including once which nearly wrecked my boat. The Delta was brand new, and just doesn't work anywhere near as well as the CQR. There is a YT channel that scientifically tests most anchor designs back to back in relatively controlled tests. Without doing that everyone's opinion of their anchor is just that, an opinion. Bring facts backed up by data and I will listen.
@petershone1533
@petershone1533 Күн бұрын
Watch the tests on sv panope, objective and data backed.
@UncleJoeLITE
@UncleJoeLITE Күн бұрын
I just raise the centreboard & take a run for the beach, then tie up to a tree or whatever. So it's almost midnight on a Saturday, I don't even own an anchor & am thus considering my life choices lol...⚓
@jerrymiller276
@jerrymiller276 Күн бұрын
I hope you never run into a situation where you really need an anchor!
@philosophyofvalue8506
@philosophyofvalue8506 Күн бұрын
Is that what you do when there's big breakers onto the beach and no shelter? Creek sailing only?
@johanthessén
@johanthessén 22 сағат бұрын
We have a ultra 35 kg on our boat for nearly 5 year now and we are super happy with it. We find it on the boat exhibition in Düsseldorf.
@grantcormack9683
@grantcormack9683 Күн бұрын
Why do people ignore the SARCA Excel in these reviews. It continually tops the tests in SV Panope and having owned and depended on it for 4 years of cruising it never has let me down.
@stevenfogerty2110
@stevenfogerty2110 Күн бұрын
Same. Best bang for your buck
@brucebyrnes125
@brucebyrnes125 Күн бұрын
Thanks Tim. Another great video, The Mantus is tempting, but at that price it is hard to make the jump given how reliable my Rocna has been. Maybe if I ever go from coastal cruising to full time cruiser in retirement.
@richarddykiel8141
@richarddykiel8141 Күн бұрын
You should also discuss the SPADE anchor which is very well regarded, and is galvanized. I don’t like the stainless steel
@phanttomracer
@phanttomracer Күн бұрын
Yes the Spade is what these knock offs are based on. The Spade is stronger with the shank going through the fluke instead of being welded on. Ultra and rochna new excellent, the Spade us the GOAT, however
@DirkJacobsz
@DirkJacobsz Күн бұрын
@@phanttomracer but Spade's suck in weeds.. and I love my Spade..
@petezaparty5965
@petezaparty5965 Күн бұрын
@@phanttomracerGot a Spade S100 on my 35’ boat. Best anchor I’ve ever owned. Wouldn’t give it up.
@phanttomracer
@phanttomracer Күн бұрын
The achilles heel of the ultra is that the fluke is welded to the shank. The spade goes through it, a superior design by Spade
@greenfeilds...1
@greenfeilds...1 Күн бұрын
can you explain that better?
@rorymacintosh6691
@rorymacintosh6691 Күн бұрын
SV Panope reviews find the Roa disaster in the Pacific Northwest bottom that he tested on. I’m in the Pacific Northwest as well - Vancouver area - and I found the Rocna to be OK only, and no better or perhaps not as good as our old Bruce. If you have deep enough pockets, I’d say the Utra could be worth it, and certainly much cheaper than going aground.
@FireyFlyman
@FireyFlyman Күн бұрын
I have the Mantus galvanized - love the Ultra - could not handle the price.
@Adifferentlife1
@Adifferentlife1 Күн бұрын
Spade anchor should be in this comparison. Many believe it to be the best there is.
@svsalserenity4375
@svsalserenity4375 Күн бұрын
Yeah I have had an Ultra for the past 5 years , worth the money , never moved sets instantly . I also use the ultra swivel, these things are great , like your Rocna , I will never part with them . Makes for a great nights sleep .
@Onyourbiketoo
@Onyourbiketoo Күн бұрын
I went Rocna and just bought 2 sizes up from what I needed which would make it equal to a correctly sized Ultra but still at a fraction of the price. It's not that I can afford the Ultra but as the video says, if you have a Rocna that never moves then why do you need to spend 4 times as much for something that also never moves ? and don't even think about when you loose the anchor :-(
@roadboat9216
@roadboat9216 Күн бұрын
Rockna is good if price is critical but there are much better anchors. The Ultra rates well but not great in the Panope tests. The Spade rates better and is less than 1/3 the price. It has a hollow shank, has excellent tip to weight ratio and retrieves upright every time with OUT a swivel. And holds better. One Third the price. And if you really do want SS Spade has one half the price.
@skatersmith81
@skatersmith81 Күн бұрын
77 lb Ultra on our Lagoon 440... sets every time, first attempt, stays set.... holds like crazy... I sleep well... end of story... wouldn't trade it for anything...
@mfournier12
@mfournier12 Күн бұрын
A big NOPE for me. One stainless looks great on the bow. BUT extended periods under water stainless is prone to fall victim to crevice corrosion. Stainless is great when it is in a oxygen environment but berried in mud under salt water for extended periods it does not get enough oxygen for the stainless properties to prevent corrosion and unlike galvanized steel it’s sneaky corrosion the surface of the anchor will look all nice and shiny but along a weld or in any seam it will form tiny cracks then start to Corrode and you don’t see it until it breaks. This also can happen to stainless steel chain plates that are encapsulated in fiberglass. A few manufactures have been plagued with chain plate failure because the manufacture encapsulated the Chain plates. Matis offers the same anchor I have in stainless and galvanized and because spend not hours but days and weeks at anchor without ever moving. My chain and anchor is burred in MUD more then it is up on the bow. So stainless is NOT the material of choice. Look at the cables and anchors used to anchor power poles and towers in the ground or water they are there not months but years and if stainless steel would last longer they would definitely use it. BUT THEY DONT they use galvanized cables and anchors. Why? Becuase it will be stronger for longer under water and burred in the ground. Stainless looks great on the surface up on the bow and if that is where your anchor is MOST of the time then great get the shiny anchor it will look great in the marina. For those who don’t pay for marinas but anchor for long periods I don’t recommend stainless steel anchor or stainless steel chain ether.
@stevenfogerty2110
@stevenfogerty2110 Күн бұрын
Sarca excel for me thanks
@RRussell-h5q
@RRussell-h5q Күн бұрын
Hard to find and not as "popular" as the Rocna or Mantus but most tests that include a Spade give a performance edge to the Spade. It also has a hollow shaft (the original I think?) but it's welded construction vs cast comes in other than stainless steel. Would like to see a head to head Spade vs. Ultra with Spade a fraction of the cost.
@pbertf24
@pbertf24 Күн бұрын
Good job man great presentation thank you very much
@carinya18
@carinya18 5 сағат бұрын
Oh My Anchor wars I have been anchoring for over 50 years My go to anchor over these years has been the plow genuine cqr and copies .Occasionally I have used a danforth when the bottom is soft mud Mangrove creeks for example Occasionally when conditions have been very bad I have lowered a weight down the anchor warp This increases the holding power immensely. Never got into trouble but have watched others having lots of it.
@johnpierre8931
@johnpierre8931 17 сағат бұрын
Had a Rocna drag after the tide shifted the boat 180 degrees. If Ultra solves this problem it would be worth it.
@briangross45
@briangross45 Күн бұрын
Love my 25kg Rocna! Best holding per $ around!
@jimevans9550
@jimevans9550 Күн бұрын
Rocna is brilliant. Better than any other anchor I’ve ever used.
@rickfrancis4182
@rickfrancis4182 Күн бұрын
Simple choice... Buy a Rocna and 100 bottles of Appleton Estate
@jaysonlima7196
@jaysonlima7196 Күн бұрын
Fair choice but I'll take Redemption Rye. But Appleton is a solid choice.
@geoffkong7076
@geoffkong7076 Күн бұрын
Anchoring in the tropics which is mainly old coral bottom anything that can lock itself onto a rock is the go .
@ashleymalamute
@ashleymalamute 18 сағат бұрын
I'm surprised you guys don't talk about the Manson Supreme anchor. I've got a story or two about those incredible things, and they are cheaper than Rocna.
@ashleymalamute
@ashleymalamute 10 сағат бұрын
On the Manson Supreme webpage is a short review from my father, Tom McCallum giving a brief outline of a night with an undersized Manson Supreme. I was on the boat that night: a Lotus 950, 31 foot 6 ton yacht, muddy seabed, 100 knot winds recorded at the airport, didn't budge an inch.
@kimobailey2926
@kimobailey2926 Күн бұрын
Ill stick with my Spade ! Stainless Steel is to brittle .
@chadparker5690
@chadparker5690 Күн бұрын
We have a 45’ MY with a 60lb ultra. Love it. When the wind is blowing and you are trying to sleep, peace of mind. If you don’t anchor a lot, Maybe you don’t need to spend the money for the peace of mind. If your anchor drags and you end up on a reef, the extra 3k would be worth it
@chazband
@chazband Күн бұрын
Interesting, thanks!
@svenrump3287
@svenrump3287 Күн бұрын
They do their demos in dry sand I believe? Nothing to do with sand sea bottom? Also what about other bottoms? For anchor tests: only SV Panope( see KZbin ) is the reference, with is objective testing
@mountainmandale1587
@mountainmandale1587 Күн бұрын
I've seen one, and I want one. ❤
@peterjohnson6273
@peterjohnson6273 Күн бұрын
Good video. Thanks.
@gsail6600
@gsail6600 Күн бұрын
The fact that you can't use this anchor without that ridiculously swivel, ( the hole in the shank is Not big enough to use anything else) makes it a big fat HELL NO for me.👎
@erichyney6287
@erichyney6287 Күн бұрын
First 😊, thanks, Tim. See you next time.
@sheerluckholmes5468
@sheerluckholmes5468 Күн бұрын
The Ultra anchor is a perfect example of what the channel 'Sailing Uma' just mentioned, that everything that is labeled as "marine" is 5X more expensive. There no reason why an Ultra has to cost that much more, stainless is only marginally more expensive than regular steel and polishing is a very minor cost consideration. This to me appears to be price gouging at its very best. Also bear in mind that nice shiny stainless anchors are the number one target for thieves so you possibly won't own that nice shiny bauble for very long.
@EldridgeRawls
@EldridgeRawls Күн бұрын
sailboat bling.
@SalingSamantas
@SalingSamantas 11 сағат бұрын
I don't know about 3:18. I've been hearing about that recently but 316 has no business being in saltwater crevice. Corrosion is a thing and 316 does not hold up anyone building an anchor with 368 or even parts of an acre with 316. I highly question
@willowglenn
@willowglenn Күн бұрын
Tim, your shop has crazy margins. That same 60lb anchor is $3100 at another Cdn store.
@stevemartland7534
@stevemartland7534 Күн бұрын
Maybe insurance companies would come up with a rebate if you spent a large amount of money ensuring that your boat didn't drag onto the rocks.
@vincentstouter449
@vincentstouter449 Күн бұрын
🤔 The cost of the anchor should be balanced against the cost of the boat. When looking at the aftermath of hurricanes and gales wreaking havoc in anchorages and the fact that this anchor requires less scope, the expensive solution may be cost effective when viewed thru the lenses of insurance deductibles and total potential damage. It might therefore, make economic sense to get the more expensive anchor based on the potential cost of damage to the boat. In a hurricane scenario the repair work will be at a premium, allocated to the highest bidders. An anchor requiring less scope will reduce the odds of fouling both by bottom features and other dragging boats. On the other hand the beautiful shinny, high demand anchor will be a “thief magnet”, so the Rocna may still be a better choice. …… as always: “The devil (and excellence) are in the details.” 😎
@sv.scintilla
@sv.scintilla Күн бұрын
Lots of positive comments. But I watched first hand a boat in Desolation Sound BC not be able to get an Ultra to set. It was a chartered power boat with a guy aboard that obviously had no anchoring experience. He payed the anchor out while backing up at five or six knots. It repeatedly skipped across the bottom. Nearly the entire anchorage was trying to give him instructions on how to anchor. Bottom line, there is no perfect anchor.
@daddymugglemuggle4159
@daddymugglemuggle4159 Күн бұрын
It probably helps to know what you're doing.
@stanleybest8833
@stanleybest8833 Күн бұрын
I only have an ultra solution. Discarded castings. It came as a delight when I read that aluminum sets best. I'm cheap, but that's not the whole picture. I see the bottom as an endless collection of shopping carts, twisted gas pipes, big rocks set on top of each other, fishing nets.. Your anchor? You use it. You lose it. With everybody driving, running around in riding mowers, even planes discard crankcase halves. Transmissions. An endless changing collection of casting shapes to chose from. Now add a paper clip shaped rod and you have a low cost custom anchor. Who's sets best? Is it a contest? Everybody has their own variation. Aluminum is not going to scratch up your anchor locker as bad, and what if you take it back toward the center of gravity? It doesn't have to curse the bow on a longer trip. Wrap it in rags and rope it down.
@terrulian
@terrulian Күн бұрын
90% or more of anchoring failures (dragging) are caused not by the anchor but by the skipper who doesn't know how to set the hook and test the holding. I would never tempt the gods by badmouthing any anchor, as the CQR, Danforth, and Bruce have all saved my bacon in very dodgy situations.
@janspeur71
@janspeur71 Күн бұрын
I your are a live aboard and want to leave your boat on anchor while exploring the land the Ultra gives you peace of mind. Having the best and most expensive anchor there is is the best investment you can do.
@JeffreyDRein
@JeffreyDRein Күн бұрын
Lets knock one off in galvanized price it at $1k and market it as disposable!
@valerieb.4912
@valerieb.4912 8 сағат бұрын
Nick from the Channel Ruby Rose II is always having anchor issues.
@skaraborgcraft
@skaraborgcraft Күн бұрын
20lb Bruce. 25lb CQR. 30lb Danforth. 45lb Fisherman. One anchor? No thanks.
@randolphh8005
@randolphh8005 Күн бұрын
Any of these new anchors will easily replace the antiquated Bruce or CQR. Probably the danforth(I prefer a Fortress) has some utility. The Fisherman maybe in some rare locations. BTW I’ve owned all but the Fisherman and the Ultra.
@HagothVoyage
@HagothVoyage Күн бұрын
I don't trust stainless. Guarantees don't mean crap if your boat is on the reef.
@DB-hy9wl
@DB-hy9wl 15 сағат бұрын
Well, 6 grand USD for a 77lb anchor... that's a big step to take if you already have a rocna on your boat. Maybe one day if i win the lottery??
@jonnybravo3606
@jonnybravo3606 Күн бұрын
Ground gear is one of the big expenses of boat ownership. It can be lost. Replacement is a double down gut punch.
@danknox9986
@danknox9986 Күн бұрын
No question it’s expensive. But I think you would be hard pressed to find anyone that purchased one that was unhappy.
@JohnMitchellRocna
@JohnMitchellRocna Күн бұрын
Please check out the new Mark 11 Rocna! It will blow the ultra out of the water..
@chrisrulla6386
@chrisrulla6386 Күн бұрын
Hey, you scratched my anchor
@blackmax222
@blackmax222 Күн бұрын
There's comfort in higher standards
@dd214veteran
@dd214veteran Күн бұрын
I wish we all had Ultra money. I would need about 200k more followers.
@mymobile5014
@mymobile5014 Күн бұрын
It's simple. They created an anchor with which they can price gouge, and the wannabes and the rich people will pay without thinking. So the company makes an insane profit and everyone is happy. For those of us not stupid enough/rich enough to pay such money for such an anchor, there are still all the inexpensive anchors that have been keeping people safe for decades. So, no worry there.
@maccant4707
@maccant4707 Күн бұрын
In answer to your last question: at the end of the chain.
@skinny1968
@skinny1968 Күн бұрын
We anchor in sand mud combination with a Danforth. Never had an issue yet.
@bobrose7900
@bobrose7900 Күн бұрын
Horses for courses I guess. It was the one and only thing I spent loads of money on, I'm just too nervous and the piece of mind is priceless. The finish remains after 5 years - i.e. a long term investment.
@rickedwards7276
@rickedwards7276 Күн бұрын
I use my Rocna 15 kg in Southeast Alaska and I rarely have more than 2 1/2 to 3 scope ratio given our precarious anchoring conditions. In some areas I don’t even bother to back it down. I just pitch it off the bow. But usually I do back it down to set it, and I have never had it Drag. We have three and four knotcurrents regularly at anchor with 180° shifts in direction. I love my Rocna.
@mjf1036
@mjf1036 Күн бұрын
I am sold. Send me 2 please.
@et1161
@et1161 Күн бұрын
THE BEST ALLROUND ANCHOR HAS THE BRAND: BIG AND HEAVY. LIKE RELIGION, EVERYBODY CONSIDERS HIS ANCHOR AS BEST 😊
@brianwhalen7783
@brianwhalen7783 Күн бұрын
I like an anchor with some extra junk in the trunk to!!!
@enrique-y6e
@enrique-y6e Күн бұрын
not worth it, i rather buy new sails than this anchor :)
@WallyMoran
@WallyMoran Күн бұрын
Full disclosure… I am a Mantus dealer. I am also an instructor and a full-time cruiser for over 20 years. This is certainly a pretty anchor, but then again, so is our stainless steel version of the Mantus. The key factor for effectiveness is weight. You could anchor with a large enough concrete block, and be guaranteed of going nowhere. The problem, of course is that concrete blocks are really difficult to pull back through the bow roller 😁 So weight, plus proper technique in laying the anchor, plus adequate chain and scope are what create a good strong hold for your anchor. For my cruising customers, I typically sell them our storm sized anchor for their boat’s size and weight, which is 10 pounds over the working size anchor. There are a couple of reasons for this, but the big one is that there’s no point in having your storm anchor in the hold at 2:30 AM when a storm hits. Have that baby on the bow, where it can do you some good. Scope is vital. I know that Tim makes a big deal out of the 2.5 to one scope in the video, but the fact is, that’s not relevant. When a storm hits and the boat is bouncing up and down in the waves, that anchor is coming out. Why else do we suggest as a retrieval technique that you shorten your a Why else do we suggest as a retrieval technique that you shorten your anchor chain as much as possible until you’re vertically over the anchor and then drive forward on it? The entire purpose of scope is to get enough catenary out that any vertical motion is eliminated. Another thing… That swivel appears to me to be vulnerable to sideloading of the chain, which will destroy the swivel. If that happens, you’re going to lose your anchor. If, like most cruisers, do you want a good solid anchor and the price of an ultra is more than you are willing to pay, please feel free to contact me via Gmail, at Wally.moran@
@jonathanlewis1352
@jonathanlewis1352 Күн бұрын
Not the appropriate location for you to advertise. The comments are fine but leave it there.
@WallyMoran
@WallyMoran Күн бұрын
@@jonathanlewis1352 When I find I need an advertising director, I'll know who to look for now, thanks.
@MurkyDregs
@MurkyDregs 7 сағат бұрын
Viking doesn't rely on weight.
@patsos2002
@patsos2002 Күн бұрын
SPADE SPADE SPADE
@petezaparty5965
@petezaparty5965 Күн бұрын
Yep. Better anchor at a fraction of the cost…
@MonkPetite
@MonkPetite Күн бұрын
I can weld that ultra my self. 😂 There is no special art building good anchors.
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