Re: LMNT

[@sanaghafoor84]

Its not about the half carb its about the ingredient itself.

[@RoryBland]

Yeah for me as someone who is sensitive to starches it makes it a no no to me

[@MarkLowCarb]

Same. 1g of Maltodextrin spikes me worse than 1g of raw cane sugar.

[@kairelouise824]

@@MarkLowCarb I feel for you. I'm sensitive to lots of things but fortunately LMNT isn't one them. When I first started hearing about all this I tried drinking 3 packets of Citrus LMNT back to back and then checked my blood for both glucose and ketones and not even a hint of a change. My husband who isn't keto took one for the team and also drank 3 LMNTs and there was no change to his blood glucose either. Its interesting how different we all can be.

[@flowerpixel]

In some people it actually causes headaches!

[@critter4004]

Exactly 💯

[@Back2SquareOne]

This is a food industry wide problem. There are potentially a host of sins that are covered up by the nutrition label "natural flavorings". IMO, we need to require, by law, ALL ingredients in our food to be properly identified on the label.

[@knothead35]

Agreed. I feel like every other product will put natural flavoring on their ingredients list and I'm not exaggerating. I don't care about their proprietary claims. My body deserves to know about every single ingredient in their product

[@_Oz_]

It is a huge deal. Their name is on the product. They should have made damn sure that they knew what was in it. Passing the buck to a 3rd party is just pathetic. How can I make an informed decision about what goes in my body when I am being lied to?

[@oksl01]

have you ever drank anything with "natural flavors" listed on ingredients? then you most likely have the same ingredient as LMNT. They get the natural flavor from another company who does not disclose the full ingredient list of what they are selling. they are not passing the buck. they 3rd party tested their product and found out what it had and posted it. get a grip.

[@_Oz_]

@@oksl01 they 3rd party tested it years after releasing their product.

[@oksl01]

@@_Oz_ an most companies don't ever check. very few would post the results as LMNT did. If you want to be outraged at someone, you need to be at the FDA because they do not require companies that sell their "natural flavors" to disclose what is in it.

[@_Oz_]

@oksl01 that is the problem, they should check, and LMNT didn't out the results, SaltT, their competition, did.

[@eagercrafter_9014]

This is why Bobby Parrish says to never use anything with natural flavors. He has said you cannot trust what is in there. But for a company not to know and/or disclose what is in their product does not seem possible. How can you sell it without knowing and understanding what you are selling. LMNT - I love them - but they have had this in there for years and it is just now coming to light.

[@charlotteestess268]

Bobby Parrish is awesome!

[@karronlaneNOLA]

exactly. they knew.

[@charlotteestess268]

@@eagercrafter_9014 LMNT is one of the more popular electrolyte packets on the market. Co-founded by Robb Wolf, yes the same Robb Wolf who was fired from CrossFit’s Nutrition Certification over 15 years ago. Boasting no sugar, no gluten, no dodgy ingredients, vegan and paleo and keto-friendly, LMNT had been perceived as one of the cleaner electrolyte supplements out there. But that has recently been called into question. In the past month or so it has revealed that LMNT contains upwards of 550 milligrams of maltodextrin. According to a statement by LMNT, there is between 250mg to 550mg in the flavored drink mix.

[@-.Steven]

I too have always enjoyed Bobby Flav-A-Flav Parrish. I have the Bobby app on my phone. 😊

[@debmurray2734]

Manufacturers use third-party products and third party manufacturers in their supply chain. That's how LMNT didn't "know" what was in their product. Which I don't believe for one minute. Foods have to be tested periodically.

[@JustJasonKeto]

I have nothing against LMNT personally, just won't be recommending it anymore without providing ALL of the information people need. I would like them to address this directly though instead of just putting it in a blog article that is not easy to find on the website!

[@KatAdVictoriam]

Natural flavors are still part of our "frankenfood". It's unfortunate that our food is full of these "natural flavors" that are left mysteries to us all.

[@gailtremblay2729]

Just about everything has "natural flavors" 👎

[@KatAdVictoriam]

@gailtremblay2729 Yes! 😮‍💨😡

[@w1975b]

It's very similar to "fragrance" being listed on anything that has a scent, and we have NO idea what makes up that "fragrance" including toxic waste.

[@candacekerr4139]

Just another reason people have so many autoimmune disorders.

[@peggyfitzmaurice4100]

Thank you for the update. I LIKE LMNT and will still use it. Like you, I have no issues, but hopefully in the future they find a solution

[@Kay-325]

Lmnt only admitted it when they were caught. They lied and hid it from their customers. So disappointed that you are defending them. Rob Wolf's response was "everyone makes mistakes" , no apology, no remorse, nothing. He showed his true self by not giving a crap about his customers. So so disappointed that you support a company with no integrity.

[@reggiedunlop2222]

You’re better off making a DIY electrolyte mix. It’s way cheaper and you control the quality of ingredients you put in it.

[@southernketo]

I'm sorry.. when you develop a product and work with a manufacturer, you sign off on the ingredients. There's an FDA sheet that lists every ingredient. This is a total cop out on their part by blaming someone else. A great marketer obviously wrote the rebuttal on their website to try to sweep this under the rug. Imagine if Coca-Cola told you that it only had half a gram of sugar in it and you found out it had a hundred times more than that. This is exactly why we need complete transparency in labeling. People that were intermittent fasting drank this first thing in the morning thinking it was the right thing to do, not knowing it was spiking their blood sugar and breaking their fast. This is completely unacceptable and I feel these "lawsuits" will never be heard of again.... If they hadn't been exposed, you would have never known... What moves the needle in the wrong direction is companies that claim to be for our community knowingly lying to us.

[@MarkLowCarb]

3rd party testing is important. Here in Canada individuals are not protected against libel to a corporation like US citizens are. Glad this came out.

[@southernketo]

​@@MarkLowCarbabsolutely! I want to see evidence of the "third party testing" that was supposedly just done. The third party was the person that called them out and tested it themselves. Let's play Make Believe for a minute.. let's pretend what they're saying is actually true. Then, it's even worse! They still have on their website "no dodgy ingredients". If they don't think maltodextrins is dodgy, what is. Did they stick out a new manufacturer? Nope. Same formula, same ingredients, same non-disclosure of maltodextrin on their packaging. Same terrible company.

[@charlotteestess268]

@@southernketo Very well said!!! No telling what else is hiding in that overpriced fake flavored salt. Lots of chemical garbage I bet.

[@Magnums_Chronicles]

I bought a pack of bacon from Safeway. In the NUTRITION FACTS on the label it say there is ZERO GRAMS of Sugar, and ZERO GRAMS of Carbohydrates. But in the INGREDIENTS LIST, the 3rd ingredient is SUGAR. My Dad had diabetes and died from a massive heart attack triggered by his diabetes. I wonder how many foods he bought and ate that listed ZERO SUGAR on the label that was full of sugars not listed as sugar on the label? It pisses me off that Food Manufacturer’s can get away with not being 100% transparent and listing EVERY INGREDIENT | CHEMICAL they add to their products.

[@charlotteestess268]

@@Magnums_Chronicles changes need to be made

[@keinohrtini]

As a company that buys certain elements for its own product from a different company, they should have done 3rd-party testing long before they even released their product to the public years ago. It is unbelievable the things that are possible in America! A simple "well, we just didn't know about it bc we didn't care enough to pay for 3-rd party testing to begin with" is their answer??? I just cancelled my Amazon subscription I had with them for the past 2-3 years. Not because of the maltodextrin, but because they clearly never cared about the consumer and just started to care when they got caught.

[@garyalice1651]

Amen.

[@lisamfrancis001]

Raspberry LMNT and Sparkling Ice got me off of soda and helped me lose 80 lbs so for me the less than 1 carb per packet is no biggie. I appreciate that they 3rd party tested their prodect and informed their customers of the issue so each person can make their own decision.

[@src4409]

Maltodextrin is addictive and NOT a good ingredient for your body

[@stvcolwill]

however, that's the point. they didn't disclose anything to its customers. There was nothing posted on their main website, or any customer-wide email notice. nothing. even after they said erroneously the 4mg, they (according to this video) found out later that it was 100x that. They never posted the 4mg either. it just showed up on an amazon review (customer actually inquired about it). I'm really not happy at all about the response from LMNT. I've been a huge fan til now. Rob's response of saying 'it's never spiked my blood sugar' isn't proper. He is fit as a fiddle, unlike most of us in this space. I categorize this into the bucket of 'how dare you'. I don't appreciate them providing a product that they market as NO DODGY ingredients (completely clean) and NOT KNOW WHAT IS ACTUALLY IN IT. Seems a we bit reckless to me, no? The more I think about his the more I just say the only word that comes to my mind over and over. WOW! In my opinion, they should know exactly what is in their product way way before it goes to market.

[@w1975b]

Did you leave "gram" out? That's the measurement.

[@MarkLowCarb]

The problem is at maintenance & BG spiking. "On the way down" I agree with you, won't matter much. When you are at that last 20 lbs to lose, in a hard-to-break plateau, doing OMAD, this isn't good.

[@jc10907Sealy]

They should have done this testing reliably before. They likely knew. Don’t ingest unnecessary carbohydrates it blocks weight loss.

[@geno5360]

So Dr. Boz was right when she said that it had more than 20 or whatever times the maltodextrin than folks were saying?

[@lightwarrior432]

Exactly 👍🏽

[@tricianottingham1785]

Yes. Even more than that.

[@kathleennorris524]

Yes, and her video also points out that this can affect insulin response.

[@ZannaTaylor]

400

[@southernketo]

It's 100 times more than they said.

[@kimberlymeyer8676]

I will finish what I have left and not order anymore.. im addicted to them and now I know why

[@travelinggirl6681]

I was addicted to them too. It makes sense now.

[@koman1974]

Same. I am not going to throw them away but I won’t order them again.

[@southernketo]

You're absolutely right. Now we know.

[@Amospully]

💯💯💯💯💯💯💯👍🏻

[@neilfrasersmith]

Me too, I was getting up in the middle of the night to drink some.

[@Adentalgrl]

They should have done testing initially and been fully transparent from the beginning. Ignorance isn’t a valid defense. Also “industry standard” ain’t up to many of our standards. It’s not carbs it’s the actual ingredient.

[@circelopez1723]

I appreciate LMNT for their transparency in stating what they found, love their customer service and will continue to use.

[@beautifulgirl219]

Maltodextrin is a carbohydrate polysaccharide made of many sugar molecules, it has a HIGHER GLYCEMIC INDEX THAN TABLE SUGAR and RAISES BLOOD SUGAR LEVELS MORE THAN TABLE SUGAR.

[@joannecardew469]

It’s not so much a concern about it raising glucose but the fact that it raises insulin! As a diabetic and trying to get my insulin down, I’m not too happy! Been using it for years on a subscription!

[@antjee]

@@joannecardew469 then it's time to cancel the subscription now.

[@elizabethschnitger5541]

Yes! I have been working hard with my diet and exercise for the past six months to bring down my A1C and I went back to the doctor and it had barely moved, I also drank LMNT everyday! So disappointing

[@catherinemahone8841]

Me too! I’m so angry!

[@SteeIe]

AND … your gut microbiome! Maltodextrin destroys your gut microbiome. THAT IS THE PRIMARY PROBLEM..

[@hollymccormick1895]

Thank you for your candor and explanation concerning LMNT’s recent maltodextrin disclosure. I have long wondered what’s in “natural flavors” and had no idea that “natural flavors” are made by third-party vendors to food and beverage manufacturers. My hunch is the “natural flavor” manufacturers’ labeling, which is completely non-existent, is within governmental guidelines. I hope that all the drama surrounding LMNT leads to more transparent labeling and doesn’t totally destroy LMNT’s business. Based on your explanation and the fact that they are pursuing legal action against their “natural flavor” supplier, I do not believe they intended to misrepresent their ingredients. I have seen influencers pounce on them and hope their harsh statements are retracted, because they are not favorably contributing to the problem. Thank you again.

[@vickielster3928]

Seems to me that LMNT has integrity by the way they are handling this situation.

[@beautifulgirl219]

Maltodextrin is a carbohydrate polysaccharide made of many sugar molecules, it has a HIGHER GLYCEMIC INDEX THAN TABLE SUGAR and RAISES BLOOD SUGAR LEVELS MORE THAN TABLE SUGAR.

[@HappyBeeTV-BeeHappy]

It's so easy and inexpensive to make your own electrolyte water.

[@helenahandkart1857]

I've not been able to find a sugar free recipe

[@w1975b]

@@helenahandkart1857 LMNT has the recipe for the unflavored free on their site. Doesn't contain any sugar. And their Raw Unflavored option also does NOT contain any maltodextrin, the problem is only in the FLAVOR packages.

[@MarkLowCarb]

@@helenahandkart1857 search for Ketorade

[@HappyBeeTV-BeeHappy]

@@helenahandkart1857 You don't find it, you make it yourself.

[@helenahandkart1857]

@@HappyBeeTV-BeeHappy 🙄

[@dajoj9730]

You are giving LMNT too much credit. "LMNT initially said that its products contained 4 grams of maltodextrin, but later admitted that the amount was actually up to 100 times higher"

[@kellytaylor7210]

She just explained that

[@karronlaneNOLA]

yes. they knew. they all know.

[@DeviousFink]

4 grams and 4 milligrams are not the same thing.

[@carole3445]

Agreed!

[@Darnabymom]

I think Dr Boz or a comment on her video stated there is more maltodextrin than electrolytes in the packet. 😱 I switched several months ago to SaltT made by Keto Chow which has ZERO maltodextrin.

[@ChrisBairKeto]

I appreciate the call-out that if something has flavor and does NOT proudly should out "no maltodextrin" it probably has it, doesn't matter if the flavor is natural, artificial, or otherwise.

[@beautifulgirl219]

Maltodextrin is a carbohydrate polysaccharide made of many sugar molecules, it has a HIGHER GLYCEMIC INDEX THAN TABLE SUGAR and RAISES BLOOD SUGAR LEVELS MORE THAN TABLE SUGAR.

[@PeggyHanford]

Thank you Nili. I was concerned with the latest chatter about maltodextrin in LMNT because of the vitriol that the company was "hiding" this information. This clarifies it for me and I really appreciate your research. 😊

[@fronniebealer7808]

SALTT does not use maltodextrin. Chris had to really get foot stomping annoyed to force their natural ngredients manufacturing company to get rid of it in, or not put it in in the first place in their product, SALTT.

[@MarkLowCarb]

Good to know... SALTT not available in Canada, because our FDA equivalent has a much lower max sodium per serving that must be respected. LMNT got banned here. Then packaging must be bilingual, or as long as French is there. Stickers added afterwards is accepted. HOWEVER, it does say Natural Flavors in the ingredient list ! However it does say zero maltodextrin. I'd have to try or see a KZbinr try it while fasted 16+hours with a CGM to trust it. I would skip it by default.

[@flowerpixel]

I have hyponatremia and saltt definitely helped me but I haven't consumed it regularly

[@Lovecruzin1]

It's all about greed..........

[@5hanman]

I have reversed my diabetes and lowered my blood pressure while using LMNT. I have absolutely no problem with the company or the product.

[@beautifulgirl219]

Maltodextrin is a carbohydrate polysaccharide made of many sugar molecules, it has a HIGHER GLYCEMIC INDEX THAN TABLE SUGAR and RAISES BLOOD SUGAR LEVELS MORE THAN TABLE SUGAR.

[@DebbieSue854]

I have used it for over a year and have tested my blood sugar many times. I’ve always had a stable response. I will continue to use it with Saltt. I think more people need to understand the process and Chris from Keto Chow/Saltt does a beautiful job explaining it. I imagine lmnt will be following in his footsteps now. As per another commenter saying the doctor said it’s not good. She said it was a problem for some just as you said. She cautioned against it for that reason. Throwing these away are ridiculous and wasteful when someone else with nothing or something far worse could use them. Thank you for recommending a food bank.

[@beautifulgirl219]

Maltodextrin is a carbohydrate polysaccharide made of many sugar molecules, it has a HIGHER GLYCEMIC INDEX THAN TABLE SUGAR and RAISES BLOOD SUGAR LEVELS MORE THAN TABLE SUGAR.

[@debmurray2734]

Sorry Nilli - love your channel, your recipes, etc. but no company needs your public defense.

[@ragusaf]

Maybe anything listing ingredient “Natural Flavourings” should be BOYCOTTED.

[@MarkLowCarb]

I boycott them :)

[@elizabethschnitger5541]

If anyone watches Dr. Mark Hyman, he says vote with your fork and your wallet!!

[@charlotteestess268]

@@ragusaf Hell yes!

[@antjee]

I like your channel and the information you provide, but I wish you and all the other influencers that get paid by LMNT would stop promoting them. It shouldn't be just about the money, but your credibility.

[@happyperson8740]

Why do you tell us how much money you get per sponsorship and what you have received overall? That will give full transparency. BTW, I’m allergic to malodextrin and used LMNT for electrolytes. I couldn’t figure out why my heart felt like it was beating out of my chest. Now I know……

[@walterjohnsonjr1056]

Any manufacturer can have their product tested to find out exactly what is in the protected natural flavors ingredients.

[@TheHrb1234]

I mean its easy to pass on the blame to their "supplier" but at the end of the day - they chose the supplier and chose to work with a company that wouldnt disclose the ingredients.

[@SteeIe]

Your gut microbiome! Maltodextrin destroys your gut microbiome. THAT IS THE PRIMARY PROBLEM. Not the 1/2 gram carb.

[@Jayla-dj2gj]

I hope that every low carb keto target product is better scrutinized after this. I can only imagine what's in my Dr Bergs lemon flavor electrolyte mix.

[@berniceaspling6447]

The doctors say it isnt safe. Just because you use it doesnt mean its safe.

[@Puglover130]

Lol Must be the same doctors who think low carb is harmful

[@RubenJuliaValdez]

I’m a business owner w thousands of customers and this is their fault. I see lawsuits coming.

[@stephwessel7346]

I love that my hubby who is not low carb drinks LMNT instead of Gatorade with sugar. I may need to switch to their Raw version or go to SaltT for myself, but I do still love LMNT. They’re not completely “cancelled” in my mind! Thanks for the fair and balanced video, Nili! 😊

[@beautifulgirl219]

Maltodextrin is a carbohydrate polysaccharide made of many sugar molecules, it has a HIGHER GLYCEMIC INDEX THAN TABLE SUGAR and RAISES BLOOD SUGAR LEVELS MORE THAN TABLE SUGAR.

[@juliemccartt8736]

Not sure how I feel about this new information. Probably why I love and crave LMNT as I do. I will be looking for an alternative electrolyte. Hopefully LMNT find a different flavor source without any maltodextrin. Really bummed 😧

[@pegz.3959]

Sorry but no one can convince me it was just an oops! They saw that they could, by law, just say it was "natural flavorings" so they used it because it is cheaper than alternatives. LMNT is so damn expensive that it is ridiculous. Using it probably kept their profits where they wanted them.

[@risasklutteredkitchen1293]

I don’t worry about consuming LMNT, it hasn’t affected me negatively. I will also consume SALTT because Chris & Miriam are honest business people and they make excellent products. Thanks for your opinion.

[@beautifulgirl219]

Maltodextrin is a carbohydrate polysaccharide made of many sugar molecules, it has a HIGHER GLYCEMIC INDEX THAN TABLE SUGAR and RAISES BLOOD SUGAR LEVELS MORE THAN TABLE SUGAR.

[@yvonne11972]

Keto Chow made sure that their SALTT has NO maltodextrin - I am wondering if that was the reason why I don't like LMNT but have no problems with SALTT

[@juliemccartt8736]

I believe Keto Chow Saltt claims it has maltodextrin in their products.

[@joycestone7826]

I worked on a team that built a meal replacement. You have to keep your suppliers honest, and changes get made that you are not aware of...substitutions get made without your knowledge. I totally expected that LMNT would follow up on the testing. I'm not throwing the baby out with the bathwater just yet.

[@beautifulgirl219]

Maltodextrin is a carbohydrate polysaccharide made of many sugar molecules, it has a HIGHER GLYCEMIC INDEX THAN TABLE SUGAR and RAISES BLOOD SUGAR LEVELS MORE THAN TABLE SUGAR.

[@maryschafer8837]

They lied. There is no way they didn't know. They are told UP FRONT by the manufacturer and have to AGREE to it.

[@robynf.617]

Thank you for your rational approach. I have felt like a lone voice, not criticizing LMNT. It sounded to me like they got the wrong information and when they got the correct information they fixed it. Did they shout out from the rooftop? No, but they did post it publicly.

[@beautifulgirl219]

Maltodextrin is a carbohydrate polysaccharide made of many sugar molecules, it has a HIGHER GLYCEMIC INDEX THAN TABLE SUGAR and RAISES BLOOD SUGAR LEVELS MORE THAN TABLE SUGAR.

[@knitterliness]

I used LMNT for the last year and completely sabotaged my own progress without even knowing it. Feeling very betrayed

[@susans7091]

Thanks for informing us. LMNT, even the unflavored, didn't help me. There was not enough Potassium, and the wrong type of Magnesium and not enough of it either.

[@draxofthenorth4649]

There is more maltodextrin in their product the magnesium and potassium combined. And they do not show that on the label, that needs to be changed. Sugar free should not mean contains maltodextrin.

[@beautifulgirl219]

Maltodextrin is a carbohydrate polysaccharide made of many sugar molecules, it has a HIGHER GLYCEMIC INDEX THAN TABLE SUGAR and RAISES BLOOD SUGAR LEVELS MORE THAN TABLE SUGAR.

[@Cowdog1]

I had 12 little packs left... I tossed them. Looking elsewhere.

[@debbiestreeter1046]

it is lmnt's choice - if they want to go by industry standards of not " purposefully " disclose. let them. apparently if industry standards say that they can hock a loogy into each batch and not disclose it - heck it's all good. LMNT has lost!! credibility as a online shop that can be trusted. Kinda’ like the spouse who only chooses to disclose an affair after they were point blank asked about it. Considering our whole country is at a loss as who to trust and who not to trust , it is nice to see LMNT's true colors. All about the bucks, babe.

[@Lovescoffeeandtea]

Not buying it

[@cmikeg8614]

Good 😂

[@marthabeck7114]

Thanks for this information. I used both LMNT and SALTT. I’ll have to check my glucose after drinking one. I have never done that. For me things bother me that don’t bother others. Choc Zero for example. Doesn’t bother most people but shoots my glucose up. And I am so sad because it is sooooo gooood!!

[@khasenb]

I started wearing a CGM earlier this year and discovered that Choc Zero also spikes by glucose terribly. I've never had a spike with LMNT or SALTT and will continue to use both, as well as Redmond. I love having the variety.

[@1976mcfarlane]

I am the same way I am not one of the lucky ones that can get away with keto treats and things like that.

[@stvcolwill]

@@khasenb same experience here with the monitor. I said goodbye to chock zero a while back because of the monitor.

[@DontPaniku]

“But look, you found the notice, didn’t you?” “Yes,” said Arthur, “yes I did. It was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying ‘Beware of the Leopard.”

[@DoingMyBest18]

Sorry companies not knowing what is in their product is innacurate. They would have made a prototype and scaled it and tested it prior to sales and distribution. When it was scaled up to large amount manufacturing, LMNT would have to given them specs to follow. LMNT was responsible to follow up and ensure that their product was within spec.

[@lowcarbrevelation]

The last few days have been difficult for us creators. Perfectly said

[@LornaGarner-pf3kq]

For me the interesting thing is that the listed ingredients have zero calories, yet each stick has 10 calories. So where are they? Ah, they’re in the ‘natural flavourings’ which is how they list the maltodextrin. They say it’s a ‘carrier’. But actually it’s from corn in their case, and maltodextrin is a sugar. So for those of us who wish to completely avoid sugar we need to know if a product has maltodextrin etc and if it’s hidden behind ‘natural flavouring’ we are not fully informed. Personally I find that untrustworthy. So anyone who continues to promote it is supporting a devious manufacturer. Just stick with a good salt.

[@beautifulgirl219]

Maltodextrin is a carbohydrate polysaccharide made of many sugar molecules, it has a HIGHER GLYCEMIC INDEX THAN TABLE SUGAR and RAISES BLOOD SUGAR LEVELS MORE THAN TABLE SUGAR.

[@MissTexas8]

Salt & Vinegar powder flavor (on wings or chips) is mostly maltodextrin too. PorkKingGood doesn’t list it, only brand on the market I can find.

[@emmaleethompson7964]

Maltodextrin is a killer for me. I worry that the production line might have contamination from maltodextrin in the non flavoured production line. I bought some, used it, and my body didn’t like it at all. I think I will just stick to salt in water from now on. So risky to purchase manufactured food.

[@sl1456]

This is a great reason to avoid packaged goods. You just never truly know what you’re getting. This summer, I made my own hydration drink instead of using powders and it worked great for fasting and doing yard work. It’s a traditional switchel recipe but I added black tea leaves and lowered the amount of honey. There’s no better medicine than sunlight and a truly clean diet.

[@stvcolwill]

I find this comment very confusion. yes you can grow your own cow and vegetables in your garden, but how on earth are you making your own electrolytes with unpackaged materials? Do you actually mine your own salt? If you avoid packaged goods then you'll never set foot into any grocery store for food, right? Are you actually growing your own black tea leaves?

[@sl1456]

@@stvcolwill I buy real sea salt in bulk. I buy local honey with the comb and pure maple syrup from local sources. I buy whole leaf tea from a small business based in Japan. Ginger root is produce, you can see very obviously it’s just ginger. I never said we should make our own sea salt. To that point, you’d have to create the universe and oceans first, and I’m not god. If you really wanted to “grow your own electrolytes”, you could grow just celery and spinach. You’d have to grow and eat a lot of it every day, but that would provide sodium, chloride, magnesium, potassium and calcium. You could make it easier by adding tomatoes, lettuce, sweet potatoes, and peppers, broccoli or any citrus fruit. Add eggs or meat and you could live off of that. My point was that we should focus on whole, real food. A measured amount of single ingredient, whole food sold in a bottle, box or bag is very different from chemically processed powders, plastic-lined cans of vegetables, and shelf-stable meal kits that make up most of a typical grocery store’s offerings. Those are usually loaded with refined oils and an assortment of synthetic or chemically treated ingredients. They will eventually cause disease.

[@w1975b]

@@sl1456 Everyone also has a different definition for what "real" food is, though. And that's another problem. Some people understand that animal foods are real food for humans, while other people will consider plants as food for us. It would be more accurate to say there are levels to how bad things are for humans. The highly processed things are obviously toward the top level of being bad, but plants in general are also on that list because they naturally contain (without processing) things which are detrimental to human health (antinutrients, fiber, fructose, too much glucose).

[@sl1456]

@@w1975b I understand what you’re saying, but if someone is eating a diet with sufficient calories, fat and protein, any negative effects of plants would be absolutely minimal, if any. Unless, I suppose, if someone is truly allergic or consumes one food item in large enough quantities. As with most things, moderation is key. I do not subscribe to the idea that refined oils and most convenience foods can be healthy in moderation. I understand many here would disagree.

[@w1975b]

@@sl1456 humans can NEVER consume calories, it is biologically impossible. And moderation is a gimmick.

[@InvisibleLeash]

Here's a question for Indigo Nili and anyone else telling us LMNT is okay because it's only a little. Which products with a little bit of seed oil is okay because it's only a little? Would Indigo Lili or Maria Emmerich promote any product with a little seed oil in it?

[@christinecurtis6752]

Correct!! Could a company get away with hiding "a little bit" of peanuts?

[@chrisavetrano]

LMNT is not being treated unfairly. They hid this info. It’s about insulin NOT glucose or carbs.

[@carole3445]

I have only 4 packages left and will Not be ordering anymore.

[@MiaSonoma]

“Natural flavorings” can be just about anything like MSG because it derived from sugar beets which are grown in the dirt. There is an MSG Lobby in DC that makes sure label laws are flawed so they can get paid by billion dollar chemical companies. It will never end. In fact labeling laws say that the “macros” can be 20% off due to the nature of natural products - they vary. The only people that should be flipping out are doe eyed youngings. Everyone has to grow up at some point. 🤗

[@SunnyCarnivore]

Trump 2024/Bobby Kennedy Jr Make America Healthy Again 🇺🇸

[@w1975b]

Also included in the INCORRECT labels is "calories" on everything. Humans can NEVER consume or access calories, which are JUST A MEASUREMENT OF HEAT as a result of placing something in a machine called a bomb calorimeter and BURNING IT WITH FIRE. Humans don't create fire inside their bodies, period. We use stomach acid and enzymes to break things down into carbohydrates, protein, fat, vitamins and minerals. I have said this to many people and most of them come back with the INCORRECT parroted claim that it's valid as a measurement of energy humans consume. IT'S NOT in any way, shape or form. Humans consume mass (grams of carbs, protein, fat). Our bodies then convert the carbs or protein into glucose and the fat into ketones, given the correct circumstances (no ketones if consuming too many carbs, for one). The human body uses glucose or ketones for energy, again period.

[@beautifulgirl219]

Maltodextrin is a carbohydrate polysaccharide made of many sugar molecules, it has a HIGHER GLYCEMIC INDEX THAN TABLE SUGAR and RAISES BLOOD SUGAR LEVELS MORE THAN TABLE SUGAR.

[@tarahspencernelson2844]

That would make sense of where the carbs come from in each packet you could see there’s carbs in the flavored ones and no one seemed to question where it came from?

[@jenniferyoung9472]

I hate that maltodextrin is so ridiculously prolific in our food sources, but I LOVE this perspective and the effort to expound on different potential sides to the issue. So many people feel like they have to skewer any company that appears to have been deceptive (and I understand why - b/c so many are intentionally deceptive) but sometimes companies are unfairly targeted because people are so reactive with little or mistaken information - and I don't have any affiliation with LMNT whatsoever. Even though you're open about getting paid by them, as someone who has fought my own health battles (and have accepted the reality that not all toxins can be avoided all of the time) I believe that you are speaking truth as you see it and appreciate the push back toward the haters. It's easy for people to criticize from the cheap seats (Brene Brown). Flavors and fragrances have been synthetic chemical landmines for a loooong time, and I believe that LMNT wasn't aware of it and/or they wanted to increase their own awareness and decided to be open with the public. I'm going to choose to trust them, even though I tend to be pretty cynical toward food companies, because I do feel like LMNT has been part of the movement of people that want to move away from the nonsense of the mainstream food industry, and I'm willing to give them another chance. Like you said - because of the proprietary nonsense with flavors (and fragrances), many companies don't know what all is in their own products and I applaud their efforts in trying to be honest and make things better. I also hope for more foot stomping and the demand that pushes flavor and fragrance companies in positive directions for health. But I also question some of the behind the scenes of those who may be targeting them wanting to take them down. There is a whole load of shady behind the scenes stuff that happens when big food feels like someone is digging into their profits or changing mindsets of consumers. But, I'm also not trying to fuel the fire of conspiracy theories because paranoid people are just as dangerous sometimes as the companies that may be conspiring. I also love the suggestion of donating the supply that people may want to get rid of. These are first world problems, and there are people even in the US living sub first world because of poverty and other challenges. I would still take LMNT over most any other electrolyte drink out there, even though I look forward to when they hopefully work out dumping maltodextrin from the ingredient list altogether. If a low income family were to take up drinking LMNT over soda, they could see a dramatic increase in their health! So, I hope people will think about donating it too if they don't want to consume the maltodextrin.

[@beautifulgirl219]

Maltodextrin is a carbohydrate polysaccharide made of many sugar molecules, it has a HIGHER GLYCEMIC INDEX THAN TABLE SUGAR and RAISES BLOOD SUGAR LEVELS MORE THAN TABLE SUGAR.

[@templenaff5598]

I have to admit they do stand behind their complete money back guarantee. I recently bought some. After trying it for several days in 45 ounces of water I got extreme diarrhea. I emailed them and they refunded my money.

[@lisafahey8145]

Classy not trashy! Well stated! 😊

[@campoida]

I guess that's why Bobby Parrish is against ' natural flavors'. Maltodextrin supposedly raises your blood glucose more than actual sugar.

[@beautifulgirl219]

Maltodextrin is a carbohydrate polysaccharide made of many sugar molecules, it has a HIGHER GLYCEMIC INDEX THAN TABLE SUGAR and RAISES BLOOD SUGAR LEVELS MORE THAN TABLE SUGAR.

[@_aileenmaria]

I’m not active on socials anymore so I’m glad I saw this video. Too bad. Still have a bunch of it left. I knew (and now understand why) I felt better when I wasn’t using a whole packet a day. I will be turning to Celtic salt for a pinch in my drinks.

[@SteeIe]

You could also make your own. There are excellent and easy recipes online.

[@KetoSimple]

As we dive deeper into understanding the food we consume, it becomes clear that industry regulations and labeling laws shape what we see on packaging. Some regulations even limit the disclosure of certain ingredients under terms like 'natural flavors.' Ultimately, the responsibility to be informed lies with us, the consumers. Reaching out directly to companies can be insightful, though it's worth noting they may only be able to share limited information. In the case of LMNT, I appreciate that they conducted a third-party test and shared those results on their website. However, my one reservation is that this information was embedded in a blog post that you had to know about to find, rather than directly communicated to consumers. The inclusion of 0.4g vs the previously stated 4mg of maltodextrin may or may not be a concern for you personally. As I mentioned in my video, it's not my place to advise whether anyone should continue using the product; that’s a choice we each need to make for ourselves. Thank you Nili for making this video. You're one of my favorites in the community! ❤❤❤

[@duggiestone]

Paid influencers got their talking points. This may be an industry issue, but they did not do their due diligence. They know exactly who their customers are and would know this is a deal breaker. Simply didn’t care.

[@Erinkenny0722]

Doesn’t maltodextrin spike blood sugar???…even tho I loved LMNT I will not be ordering it…not healthy imo

[@jeangurnee]

Do you test yourself?

[@beautifulgirl219]

Maltodextrin is a carbohydrate polysaccharide made of many sugar molecules, it has a HIGHER GLYCEMIC INDEX THAN TABLE SUGAR and RAISES BLOOD SUGAR LEVELS MORE THAN TABLE SUGAR.

[@gabriellem7548]

Wow, and people were paying over 40 bucks thinking that they were healthy and reliable. It's better to stick to water or make your own mineral water.

[@MichelleK765]

I doubt that a small amount of maltodextrin is an issue for someone with a healthy metabolism, BUT for the many people who are using a Ketogenic diet to control diabetes any amount of maltodextrin could be an issue. If LMNT was lied to they don't deserve to be on blast and I'm sure they will try to do right by their customers. Keto Chow does make an electrolyte product without maltodextrin.

[@w1975b]

I wonder if there's enough to be a problem for anyone with a sensitivity or allergy to corn, since maltodextrin comes from corn. edit - Also, is the corn used organic or not? Non-organic corn is GMO by default, which has it's own negative health effects on human health.

[@beautifulgirl219]

Maltodextrin is a carbohydrate polysaccharide made of many sugar molecules, it has a HIGHER GLYCEMIC INDEX THAN TABLE SUGAR and RAISES BLOOD SUGAR LEVELS MORE THAN TABLE SUGAR.

[@jodyjackson5475]

They. Are. Sketchy. These channels are not going to bite the hand….

[@dEEmARIE-]

I think people are not trusting you tuber folks that thave sponsors. I think it's beyond LMNT but the sponsors and who we can trust... I could be wrong. Thank you Indigo Nili...love ya

[@christinecurtis6752]

LMNT does not get a pass. They knowingly withheld information but readily promoted "No Dodgy Ingredients".. It is their responsibility to know their product and disseminate correct information,. Utterly disappointed with this company and will not support them again.

[@MightyMeatyHealth]

Thank you. Appreciate you digging into the issue and getting answers I hadn’t seen elsewhere so far. I’m going to try Saltt and see if I notice any difference. In the meantime I’ll still use LMNT raw and LMNT sparkling.

[@neilfrasersmith]

Can you imagine Coke saying, 'Oops, we didn't know that was in there, my bad'.

[@elizabethschnitger5541]

Coke needs to go away entirely!!

[@JoVo1111]

LMNT has the right to add anything they want to their products. And I have the right to keep my money and make my own electrolytes. The extreme drop in sales that they’re (no doubt) about to experience will cost them more than their reputation. Maybe they can turn it around and redeem themselves but I’ll never purchase any of their products. Glad I never have.

[@tpbtpb2602]

Maltodextrin doesn't cause a glucose spike, but according to other sites, it causes a large insulin spike.

[@SteeIe]

Your gut microbiome! Maltodextrin destroys your gut microbiome. THAT IS THE PRIMARY PROBLEM. Not the 1/2 gram carb.

[@beautifulgirl219]

Maltodextrin is a carbohydrate polysaccharide made of many sugar molecules, it has a HIGHER GLYCEMIC INDEX THAN TABLE SUGAR and RAISES BLOOD SUGAR LEVELS MORE THAN TABLE SUGAR.

[@stagecoachist]

Thank you Nili for explaining it so eloquently…it will be on a person to person basis and if they can consume it 🙌🙏🙌💋🌹💋and we definitely need the change in the industry standards ..yes and amen 🙏

[@foreverfornevervegan]

I have never trusted LMNT. I went to their website just to do some basic information gathering. Not only did the price make me laugh out loud, but seeing that there were flavors told me everything I needed to know. Especially "Chocolate", like, how the heck do you get that flavor into a powdered product without using some unholy mix of chemicals that have likely not been thoroughly tested?

[@stvcolwill]

They're claiming that the chocolate flavor ones have ZERO Maltodextrin. Also zero for all the carbonated drinks. also the raw unflavored ones.

[@Puglover130]

Cocoa powder?!

[@foreverfornevervegan]

@@Puglover130 But it doesn't just say cocoa powder, it says "natural chocolate flavor." So maybe at home sure, but I was right not to give the company the benefit of the doubt. And at any rate, adding something bitter like pure cocoa to that kind of product would make it taste off. No wonder they used so much added sugar.

[@stvcolwill]

@@foreverfornevervegan yep, agreed about that. just going by what they're saying now. : )

[@foreverfornevervegan]

@@stvcolwill I'm a little confused... My comment was in response to a different commenter... But hello, anyway!😁

[@geno5360]

And just an addendum to my earlier post, to be fair, it didn’t give you a sugar spike at all so it does work for its intended use for most people, and I’m glad they’re trying to correct this

[@beautifulgirl219]

Maltodextrin is a carbohydrate polysaccharide made of many sugar molecules, it has a HIGHER GLYCEMIC INDEX THAN TABLE SUGAR and RAISES BLOOD SUGAR LEVELS MORE THAN TABLE SUGAR.

[@LibbyTD9345]

For some LMNT may not raise glucose, but more than likely raises insulin. One of the many things insulin does is to keep circulating glucose as normal as possible. Stimulating the pancreas to produce more insulin each time we eat or drink something sweet is not good in the long run either.

[@beautifulgirl219]

Maltodextrin is a carbohydrate polysaccharide made of many sugar molecules, it has a HIGHER GLYCEMIC INDEX THAN TABLE SUGAR and RAISES BLOOD SUGAR LEVELS MORE THAN TABLE SUGAR.

[@HollyAZ]

This is the first I'm hearing about it. Thank you. I will look into it more and decide what's best for me.

[@jillf24]

Make your own- so many videos on KZbin. And truly- I am so tired of the ads on every Keto/carnivore channel!!! They must pay you all very well. I fast forward through all the commercials.

[@kairelouise824]

I've had great results using LMNT and don't plan to change. It doesn't spike my blood glucose and does make me feel better. I certainly don't plan to succumb to all the ridiculous fear mongering over .25 to .5 of a carb. I also believe that LMNT is a great company and has been honest with the information they were given and the independent steps they took to clarify. I hope and believe this whole situation will make them even better. For those who think they are addicted to the tiny amount of maltodextrin in LMNT, it might help to investigate other packaged foods you may be eating because it's in so many many things, some list it and some do not.

[@gofigures9]

I was really helped by LMNT but I only take one unflavored packet per day. I have very bad SIBO.

[@w1975b]

The UNflavored does NOT contain maltodextrin. Maltodextrin is only in the different flavor packets.

[@SteeIe]

! Maltodextrin destroys your gut microbiome. THAT IS THE PRIMARY PROBLEM.

[@teresayerbury3273]

I hate that it was false advertising! No dodger ingredients! They do put dodgy ingredients as in Maltodextrin. I don’t drink or eat things that have natural flavors. This is the reason I could not get into ketosis! But many and many do not! Sad you are taking this horrible stand! 😢

[@oksl01]

my wife is T2D and has been drinking the flavored LMNT. She does not have spikes in her glucose because of it. We had some issues with insurance and a new Dr that caused my wife to be without meds for about 3 months. Her fasting glucose right before her meds were finally approved was over 500 mg/DL. that was just 7 weeks ago. She has been eating 95% carnivore and using LMNT for the past 5 weeks. Her glucose this morning was 95. She was on ozempic for 5 weeks and that was removed by her Dr. she takes a shot at night and her dr said to use 6 units of it. She is only using 2. LMNT has not hurt her nor has it affected her glucose. If it has she would have been using the Raw LMNT like i use. So unless you are having an bad reaction to it and are following a no carb diet, relax. I found the information on LMNT website before i heard anything on youtube. I researched it prior to ever letting my wife use it. some of you all act like LMNT is putting 2 or 3 tablespoons full in their packets. 1/4 teaspoon to 1/2 teaspoon? once a day or once every few days. Do you own due diligence when starting a new product. research it.

[@sweetrouble420]

Thanks for sharing and being so honest, but I'm not surprised. So informational 😊 I never tried it, and when I tried, my gut told me no! I was so happy that Keto Chow came out with SALTT. And states no maltodextrin.

[@kygal2448]

No LMNT yesterday. My morning BG in the 80’s after a few months of being in the 100’s My evening drink was LMNT so no more until they self correct. I kept trying everything to see what was causing the elevation. Now I know. I’ve loved the product and customer service. They need to correct. FAST

[@jeangurnee]

I have been told not to use any electrolytes at night. I take after or during a workout playing softball or cycling (Caramel chocolate in my mid-ride coffee stop). Maybe try that and test after using in the daytime and during/after a workout. I have no BG problems with it.

[@kygal2448]

Will try that, and then will try Sallt for more info.

[@9929kingfish]

A tsp of redmond real salt in H2O will do.

[@TheTamrock2007]

While I applaud LMNT for the transparency, I personally reject any product with natural flavorings as an ingredient.

[@AnneMB955]

400 milligrams of sugar is about the same as 1/8 teaspoon. I chose these for the past year thinking the sweetness was stevia. Was trying for zero carbs but have given up. There are still carbs in the little bit of cheese and lactose free yoghurt I have. Will continue as it’s good for my hydration. I’m healthy now.

[@catherinemahone8841]

There is a huge difference between 4 and 400 mg! I was having a reaction to it but always pushed it off as something else since I believed & trusted this company. Maybe it won’t adversely effect a metabolically healthy person, but as a former diabetic who’s A1c is now in the pre diabetic zone, I feel betrayed! What if they put 400 mg of some kind of drug in the formula and didn’t disclose that? It says “zero sugar hydration”on the packaging. If I knew it contained any kind of sugar, I wouldn’t have ever used it, let alone for over a year. I’ve been sugar free/ keto for 10 years. I believe I have the choice of what I allow inside my body & that choice was stolen from me! I’m not angry at you but if you think the head of a company is not apprised of the concentration of the ingredients in his products, you are mistaken.

[@AuntiBiBi_MiMi]

I agree with you 💯 I don't blame LMNT, I blame our food industry. I'm not so strict yet in my health journey to be in an uproar over it anyhow. What LMNT decided to give up, what next? MIO?

[@JamieE76]

Great analysis! I do hope that LMNT will look to Keto Chow as an example for how to not use maltodextrin, in the future, for the people that just can't have it at all. I haven't had a problem with LMNT so far, but every person will react differently. God Bless!

[@beautifulgirl219]

Maltodextrin is a carbohydrate polysaccharide made of many sugar molecules, it has a HIGHER GLYCEMIC INDEX THAN TABLE SUGAR and RAISES BLOOD SUGAR LEVELS MORE THAN TABLE SUGAR.

[@kellytaylor7210]

Thank you for this clarification!

[@MadPick]

Beautifully said, Nili. I couldn't agree with you more!

[@kefirheals7383]

I appreciate you put your own perspective on this. When I saw Dr. Boz do a video on it (and I'd just ordered canned LMNT for short trips up north, so I can throw it in a cooler), I was disappointed and wasn't sure what I was going to do going forward. Plenty of KZbinrs show how they make their own electrolyte mix. It looks fairly simple. I happen to like the convenience, and the different flavor options LMNT offers ( and the chocolate options at the end of the year). Well, it's something for carnivores & keto folks to think about.

[@DanielaBoha]

What exactly is "THE NATURAL " about natural flavorings??? Malrodextein ???? I quit LMNT a while ago when I heard about them using Maltodextrin ... I listen to Dr. berg and he has videos about it... I chose a different electrolyte brand, and I love it...