RE-redesigning HAZBIN HOTEL Characters

[@Meppity]

*OKEY DOKEY! TIME FOR SOME CLARIFICATIONS:* - Sorry I misprounounced "Vaggie" the whole way through this!! I got so caught up in getting it right that the second I pressed record I had the ultra brainfart and did the exact opposite lmao. At least I was consistent... Right? Uh... - 9:17 I suggested people didn't like Alastor's first redesign because of their attachment to the original. What I meant is that all my previous designs sucked so people didn't like them by default BUT this attachment would explain why he was MOST disliked. So yeah, it wasn't soley because of the original being a favourite - I'm well aware that the colour palette was pretty gross. I'll possibly update this pinned comment if theres any other points that get mentioned but for now, thank you for being patient and responding to this video so positively! I look forward to making less ego-infused in future :)

[@everythingmustgo4478]

that's alright

[@theg7063]

It's okay

[@mcfoxduv7568]

Meppity I did actually like your Charlie outfit more than the one original one

[@bluecat7478]

More because how terribly the green looked just didn't fit his character a character like alastor with his over all persona fits better with warmer colors green will convey someone who is more reserved and elegant and alastor is way more in your face when your attention is not on charlie it's on him plus green clashed with red horribly

[@stardoogalaxie9314]

Blue Cat she already said that lmao

[@gemsineye]

The funny thing about Angel Dust’s character design is the fact that Vivzie stated she wanted to make the least sexy character possible and still have people be attracted to it. And as we all know, she somehow succeeded.

[@royal3524]

Viv succeeded very well 😂

[@danielsteger8456]

lol if you are attracted to angel dust then something is wrong with brain

[@jeaninedindial7961]

maybe but no ❓❓❓ I don’t know I just said

[@artsyhufflepuffer1748]

@@danielsteger8456 no u

[@Nerqie]

Task failed successfully

[@Vash-Venture]

I honest to god had no idea Vaggie's design was based on a moth.

[@heyits_Marlo]

Right? I only knew about it when people commented on the design!! Edit: and it was very weird to me since I am very afraid of moths... And she doesn't scare me 😂

[@clamytoes474]

i always thought she was an owl because of her massive eyes :/

[@fizzycat3506]

Maybe Vivzie should of made it look more obvious. She looks NOTHING like a moth

[@heyits_Marlo]

@@fizzycat3506 yeah, I agree

[@sonicboii7378]

Same

[@ilikepie4685]

Fun jumping spider fact: males dance for the females to mate, if they fail, they get eaten. Yay.

[@neopolitanicecream4871]

Wait humans don't do that?

[@ilikepie4685]

@neopolitan Ice cream - What.

[@knightxgamplay7682]

WAIT HOL UP

[@kolin9395]

neopolitan Ice cream Apparently not?

[@preachan7432]

Oh my

[@beepuke8679]

Literally my only problem with the first video was that it felt like you didn't change anything, It was more of a redraw than a redesign. But now THAT'S a redesign!

[@editphoto562]

I definitely like these redesigns better, but...I THOUGH ALASTOR’S FACE LOOKED LIKE LOUIS FROM BEASTARS😂😂😂

[@ileanabriannemari]

@@editphoto562 Oh god, now I can't unsee it now-

[@hunternocedaclawthorn]

Fun fact: before hazbin came out, Viv wanted angel to be Pinker the drunker/higher he was, and turn a more dull brown color when sober

[@coldsobacos]

so does that mean he's always high in the show

[@vxjsktezhdjhskd2181]

@@coldsobacos watch the pilot one more time and tell me what u think XD

[@saddness1]

@@coldsobacos nope she gave up on that idea later on. It's just how it was supposed to be. lol that would be funny though.

[@darkx6869]

inari or she changed it and didn’t stick with that

[@melodyw7250]

Oh thats why his old design had dull colours

[@o0Scarrow0o]

"I actually gave him deer antlers that are visible because the other ones are hidden in his emo hairstyle" Me:wait he has deer antlers?

[@bloodymoon7315]

Uh yeah

[@outsold1]

I would never have noticed them if she didn't pointed them out

[@emiendo3128]

Ikr i didnt know he had antlers

[@ximenaortega8637]

Yeah we’re just waiting for the tail to appear

[@rhemacreel1339]

yeah I'm an idiot I didn't notice them either-

[@dustyzoid3535]

I don’t why, but the new Alastor redesign looks like his weird cousin that he does not talk about.

[@dango9024]

Dustyzoid Oop-

[@habibiolivencia2998]

True

[@poopsytheduck864]

But he's also the more unsettling, and may be the more powerful one ; ).

[@bonniereed2158]

The one person no one talks to at thanksgiving

[@DEMIboiyo]

@@poopsytheduck864 Isn't Alastor powerful enough to break the forth wall?

[@ef_modz4395]

Your alastor design looks so friendly but has that eerie feeling that isn't immediately noticable but the more you look at him the less friendly he feels and I think that's perfection

[@somethingwithbungalows]

Ethan the red engine once I saw his face (especially his eyes lol), I was instantly intimidated

[@threedicksonabench3141]

And that’s the way it’s supposed to be! When I’m a human being-

[@babyfirefly1842]

looks like smth out of gravity falls

[@billyjoel3910]

I see a friend (;

[@thegreatgamers9812]

@Ocean Blue well, he kinda hides it. Alastor has that "I'll smile and tell you terrible things, but sugar coat it and act like it's the most normal things in the world making you feel less uncomfortable" type of vibe.

[@sananika8883]

Damn Alastor is SO intimidating, like, if I see him in that version, man, I wouldn't want to sleep for a couple of hours because this version IS VERY creepy/scary

[@kyokajiro5978]

He didn't scare me at all. I find the real/original design more intimidating because of the face he has and how he looks.

[@RG-rm6ih]

@@kyokajiro5978 Nah

[@milkmatcha3698]

@@kyokajiro5978 nah he just looks edgy for no reason.

[@Je_suis_en_vie]

The redesign reminds me of Hannibal Lecter.

[@ghoultooth]

@@milkmatcha3698 Fr.

[@criptyckcw]

I really REALLY don’t like how people think that critique is a form of hate nowadays. Critique can be many things, spite, kindness, passion, all of that, and it really sucks that people focus on the latter.

[@Chronicle_MV]

There are too many people who say they're offering criticism when really they're just being mean. There was even a couple on KZbin that actually made fun of another artist's artwork on a Twitch live stream. That's why people nowadays take critiques as personal attacks. Even myself. If someone were to point out the flaws of something I've worked really hard on, I immediately assumed that I failed and abandon the project. It's hard to tell who is genuinely trying to help and those who are being hateful.

[@danielsteger8456]

iTs A pILoT yOu CaNt CrItICiZe

[@starrynight1165]

Yeah but some people just downright insult the show. This video is fine but some other videos say stuff like "four yos could draw this" and stuff like that

[@bunnyleaps6080]

I agree but her earlier video of this her criticism were poorly thought out

[@yipps1171]

*Ahem* Yandere Dev-

[@ActuallyRea]

LOOOOOVE this take of the designs compared to your last ones! Huge improvement c:

[@exammole4545]

Didn’t expect you here lol Wait how am I the first replying-

[@ilikecats3131]

@@exammole4545 Lol i was just looking thru the comments and saw GinjaNinja xD

[@Catawampa]

I swear to god I can hear your voice when reading your comment

[@littlelady9801]

Ik right

[@justawaterbottle4815]

@@Catawampa same, it's freaky as hell

[@kai-gm9re]

just one issue- alastor’s hair covers his forehead to hide the X that’s there. the X (probably) indicates how he died. it isn’t just some emo hairstyle.

[@varianmetcalf8220]

exactly I was kind of sad that the hair over the x was missed because that could mean something for alastor or at the very least that he hides things

[@doesntexist404]

You mean vaggy or vaggie right

[@mothsilkz]

@@doesntexist404 no, it's alastor.

[@doesntexist404]

SimpForLuka but Isn’t vaggie the only one with a x or did I miss something

[@mothsilkz]

@@doesntexist404 in hazbin hotel, the X indicates how the character died. so in people's theories, vaggie could be shot through the eye and for alastor through the head. his X is not really visible unless you pause at the right time. in the last few minutes of the pilot where alastor takes down sir pentious, remember the part where he smiles and everyone else just stares at him? you can see the X on his forehead, hope this helped ^^

[@leonxdz]

These designs are WAY better than your last go.

[@Hopefell]

I don’t care for any of Vaggie’s designs, I think that she looks weird and will always look weird if we stick to what she looks like right now. I love how Charlie looks in this video! The bell shapes make her look nicer, and i feel like if you talked to this version of her, she would be the nicest most selfless person ever! I love love love how Alastor looks in this one! It reminds me of how i get scared while watching a horror movie. I feel like if you met him he would be someone who hypnotizes you gradually with his comforting looks and color palette, then consumes you slowly like a spider. Scary. And oh boy, Angel Dust looks FABULOUS! I feel like he’s the only person who could pull off calling someone ‘babe’ without it feeling awkward. I love him! And i love your videos on this topic!

[@xxlazygachaxx8198]

Lioxdz yep! I agree

[@MarySan415]

@Sylwiiah he looked like a moldy carrot pimp lmao XD

[@popmasteralan5594]

But it’s still disrespectful

[@woahwoahwoah7530]

Sylwiiah y u p

[@MayaTadmor]

i was one of the people that really disliked your last redesigns but i'm happy to say you completely made up for it. i think drawing the characters in your actual style added a lot and i loved the way you did charlie's outfit. if i'm being honest i never thought you'd sell me on alastor wearing more muted colors but i absolutely adored the sepia color scheme paired with the unsettling face, i think it adds a lot and makes him seem scary without trying too hard. i also surprisingly liked vaggie's blue color scheme, especially since it makes her appear more goth, and your angel design was also very good. all in all this video completely made up for the other one and that's rly good cause i love your content and didn't like the bad taste in my mouth the other video gave me

[@gracerose7314]

Wow, I really loved this! As an animator, I had a huge sigh of relief after seeing the new designs! These are so much cleaner looking and their proportions are perfect for smoother animation, absolutely love this! Speaking of the designs without animation in mind, I think these designs fit their personalities so well, and Alastor's face was incredibly scary! And I love how you kept their time period in mind! As for the fandom, I think this fandom is really cutthroat because unlike your average cartoon, this was more of a passion project, made by a smaller team. So the fandom will feel more attached to this show, it doesn't feel corporate and there is a clear face behind the project, vivziepop. But this still doesn't mean that vivziepop is immune to criticism, in fact, if this is a passion project she should be getting more constructive criticism if anything, because she is more likely to take the criticism than a corporation, and we want her to succeed! I think there is a negative attachment to criticism for whatever reason, like criticism is a jab at the creator, but it's the opposite! It's meant to help the creator, so as the viewers, even if we think the criticism isn't the best, let's not attack anyone, because criticism is still meant to help, not hurt! And on another note, I hope you find this comment, because it looks like you're getting lots of hate, and I think that's pretty uncalled for! You critiqued vivziepop, so instead of us hating, we should critique your videos, help not hurt! :)

[@yonicorn1641]

Fellow animator here, I think the fandom hates them because they are attached to the original ones, but I, as someone who is not really a fan, when I watched the pilot, my head hurt from all the red and loudness and all. I really like how these have their own distinct color scheme and I like how she did Alastair, he looks fucking creepy but in a way where you dont really know why.

[@vlatora]

Fanboys: "It's hell, everything's supposed to be red and angular" DOOM: Am I a joke to you?

[@steelooo0]

ah yes, a man of culture

[@trashyysushi]

KAREN TUK KAREN TUK

[@geistyweisty]

@Not a spy congrats want a cookie

[@high_off_glowsticks]

Im a girl

[@high_off_glowsticks]

@@geistyweisty yeah

[@houtlaw8835]

People are so used to seeing super skinny bodies in movies and animation and shows that the average body looks fat lmao

[@somethingwithbungalows]

That’s pretty sad, lol

[@jonathanhall3640]

Idk most of people my age aren't that heavy at least of the people I know

[@everfluctuating]

@@jonathanhall3640 maybe you just dont know a lot of people

[@jonathanhall3640]

@@everfluctuating it could be that Massachusetts is just not a very overweight state idk

[@IWroteSomeThings]

I love her vaggie design. Giving characters different body types should kinda be a standard. Imo

[@EoSekki.mp4]

4 years later... 4 years later and it still is the best redesigns done to the series

[@shascircus]

hey i hate your alastor! in the good way. i hate him because he haunts my nightmares now, so, good job-

[@rociofp8630]

Your Creepy friend The original is just... Good-looking? Idk.

[@J_weew4756]

Alastor was supposed to be creepy, and Vivzie did a good job, for the first time he was actually scary... Until shippers and edgy little girls arrived ._.

[@WeeGail6]

I don't have nightmares. *I don't fuckin sleep*

[@katneedsrest]

@VindAAr yep ._.

[@phlutes46]

You hate him not because you think the original is better or it ruins the original or it’s bad, no, just because it is utterly terrifying and you wish you’d never seen it and if you got the chance would murder that thing before it could murders you. But you think the design is awesome but nightmare fuel. I’m totally not in the same situation

[@nessie968]

I hate how nowadays you can't upload a critique video without a 20 min disclaimer apologizing for your honest opinion. Your designs are a delight to my eyes as an animator, because they are so much easier to animate and I honestly prefer them over original.

[@awkwardorangedrawz5914]

People are just too sensitive about things they care about!

[@mons9974]

bruh i dont think the fans were being hateful they were just goofing of and joking about it. I wont lie the last redesign was preeeetttty funny looking in my opinion. No one was being hateful towards her honestly.

[@yam5174]

@@mons9974 she said she got death threats

[@Meppity]

I kept as many comments as I could but I probably deleted over 1000, some of which described how I should die because I've committed the oh-so-terrible sin of "ruining perfection."

[@mons9974]

@@Meppity oh my bad i did not know

[@corvcrawler]

Okay but the new alastor redesign is genuinely pleasing to the eye

[@azrieldalusong5042]

Even better than the official one

[@pascuala.]

I wish it was the official one tbh

[@zamasuaboveall]

@@azrieldalusong5042because you can actually tell he’s a deer this time

[@WhatABinglylittlescronklylil-]

It’s just a more well executed Alastor design, tbh. _(I wish this was the one we got to see in the show 😭)_

[@mimipeahes5848]

I think your redesigns are way more expressive than the originals. I'm not really a fan of the original allistor (the emo cut and clifford the big red dog colors arent doing anything for me) but I love how unsettling yet weirdly friendly yours looks, it's like he's only ever read about what smiles look like and I love it.

[@renny489]

Yea, in Alastor orginal design, it really takes away of what he's supposed to be, he is a deer that died in the 20s but in the show it's just eh...

[@flavortown6280]

Alastors design just reminded me too much of butt witch in 12 forever

[@epochii2756]

Clifford died in his emo teenager phase to create the canon one-

[@flavortown6280]

@Al X. Andra haha ikr!

[@frogoverlord3471]

Hm i think the deer part could be because he may have been shot on acident from mistaking him as a deer

[@jmcneil3394]

It seems more diverse, I agree with the “they don’t need to be red to be intimidating” thing, I’d see red as trying to blend in, but trying to stand out also gives the character confidence and shows that they don’t need to blend in with the environment/people. I’ll keep that in mind when I’m making my own characters, that colours really say something.

[@randomgamerartist]

I agree with that sentence I have a character that is is most cool colors and I try to make him intimidating(although I believe I failed at making him intimidating) The only red that I use is in his tie.

[@LytzyBitzySpider]

Everyone put aside what she did, yes it was better and cute *_But look at Anya's pretty fluffy hair!!!!_*

[@jonazbermudez7638]

Honestly lol

[@embermoon999]

Yes, hur here is beautiful!! and her art is beautiful 2!!

[@blehblehbleh2714]

Omg when I saw the first redesign it looked like she forced herself to try to copy Hazbin hotels style and it looked really stiff and weird..... but I’m *really glad* she used her own style and made it look reali interesting and lively *it is b e a u t I f u l.*

[@raven061495]

i don't like the way they look together at the end 16:13 the colors don't look good together as a cast, Alaster just looks out of place and blends into the background too much , and the choice of poses are kinda dull in the sense that i don't feel any charisma that usually comes through with the original character designs from viv, the personality is still missing for some of them , also something else my eyes really focused on when i saw them all together was angel dust stands out way too much, his head has no hair shadowing like all the other characters do making his face and hair really flat compared to the other redesigns making him stand out in a weird way i think you could do a better job with more time and incentive to do so but as far as this compares to you're last attempt i think this was a much better improvement poses included

[@urdadsleftasshole69]

Periods exist, please use them. It makes your sentence easier to digest.

[@longdong7667]

Quaintrelle Q I don't know, I found it easy to read.

[@longdong7667]

I agree...

[@jamarihernandez7117]

@@longdong7667 same

[@jenny-rm1eb]

true and they’re all like squished in together

[@onyxwashere3967]

Now that I think of this again, there is honestly nothing that makes the characters special between each other. The four main characters are all skinny, mega tall and with very similar hue color palette, not mentioning that their character design should be also considering a difference between their silhouette. Anwyays, as a hazbin fan since 2018, i must confess that I've redesigned myself some parts of the characters, such as the proportions in Alastor's body, the hairstyle in Charlie and the legs of both Vaggie and Angel. It is a good video for this type of explanation; keep it up and don't feel bad for the negative comments, you are doing such a good job, queen! Edit: Now that I see, I meant that the color palettes are almost monochromatic; look at Alastor, most of his body is covered in red hues. Look at Angel, he has a lot of pink. Look at Vaggie, she has different colors, but has a lot of dark mint tones and white. Charlie is a lil' different, she has red, white, black and yellow. We all know it's just a pilot, things can change, but I don't see Vivzie changing anything since a while ago. 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@icecreamhero2375]

The biggest problem with Hazbin is the bad writting the art is perfectly fine. The characters don't actually do anything in the pilot. Its one big exposition dump. It lacks a proper 3 act structure. All they ever did was explain stuff. Unlike Gravity Falls where they do tease more to come with Dipper finding book number 3 but The first episode is still a self contianed story about Dipper thinking Mabel's new Boyfriend is a vampire and it is really gnomes. Also I am just as dumbfounded as the other demons. How exactly is she going to redeem the other demons.

[@TailcoatGames]

The characters are different especially if you look at some modern shows characters

[@onyxwashere3967]

@@TailcoatGames yes, but not a lot between each other :)

[@TailcoatGames]

Sari Fangirl I meant between each other sir p is grey and Baxter’s blue there’s also more colored characters later In the show also as far as character shapes in her old vid where she show silhouettes and colors were shown I got them all right the characters have very defining shapes busker has wings alastor has very defining hair angel has a unique head sir p has a huge tail and hat vaggie has really long hair etc. I really like the shows colors and designs and I watched the show just fine

[@occasionalfan-content4771]

icecream hero Didn’t they set up the hotel? I haven’t watched it in a while but that seems like a good place to start

[@EdTheOrangeBlob]

The only critique I have for these designs is Vaggie's hair. Like, how in the world would that hair work from a side view? Though, the Alastor redesign looks SICK!! I love it. Makes him genuinely creepy instead of hot topic.

[@knightoflight4973]

I love everything about his design escept the fucking eyes

[@jesse_u2282]

KnightOfLight it does make him actually "scary" in my opinion lol oh and for the original comment for vaggie’s hair yeahhh I like the fluffy hair in the front but I feel like the straight hair would be better for animation. (As it is already)

[@erm_okbeta]

Every time I come back to the comments of this video I am reminded that vivs entire fan base is made up of 10-14 yr olds (and 37 year olds with the minds of 10-14 yr olds)

[@veganmeatball6780]

You really think adult shows would have adult audiences? Nonsense!

[@lexdraws1729]

@@veganmeatball6780a lot of the hazbin hotel fans I know are mostly in our 20s

[@ailemasvega]

I really liked your last video, even if the poses were quite still. I enjoy Hazbin Hotel, but still agree with many of the points you made both in your original video and this new one. I really respect you for calling yourself out on some of the things that you got wrong in the first one. Your art is amazing and you're a huge inspiration. Also, that eyeliner looks amazing.

[@3d_young_joseph]

Alastor's redesigned face sent a chill down my spine

[@zay_rat8942]

Ik, it’s horrifying.

[@zay_rat8942]

12:32

[@eatingshelf6135]

Lmao I switched the comments to newest first in order to see how many people would still be butt hurt over these redesigns. I really love alastors redesign he actually looks terrifying

[@sabersquid2523]

Same lmao

[@s2sHoXXs2]

he looks terrifying but also like someone who will still trick me into thinking hes friendly and trustworthy only to stab me in the back, right, left, and center when I'm no longer useful to him.

[@frydfish4934]

"And if he need a little quickie he can slip it aside"

[@JumpscareCitrus]

That let me shook

[@alofii6106]

I want the timestamp

[@dreamlanderjoel8162]

@@alofii6106 Here you go 14:00

[@WeeGail6]

What

[@cara5764]

I love all of these! Totally agree that alastor looks much more creepy with muted colors. If he showed up like that the mood would shift so fast

[@aiuwapi]

My favourite one is her AngelDust redesign i think I might prefer it to the actual AngelDust

[@96Kohaku]

Your criticism of the show's art was constructive and well thought-out. It wasn't a pointless attack for the sake of an attack; such insightful criticism is helpful, if not for Vivziepop, then for the people watching who can always learn something.

[@PhoenixPeridot]

I feel the same way. When she brought up the argument on colour palettes being the same are an issue, along with the heavy details that are unnecessary (especially for animation) gives another perspective on how people shouldn’t do overkill when it comes to details. She also had points in suggesting to look up time eras on what they should be wearing in terms of when they died. It’s a great study to take into account when creating characters. different colour schemes help so much with characters and making them stand out on their own and not bleed into each other.

[@pawdesu8451]

Yeah her talk was useful but the art was ugly

[@LaLaLaLaNom]

That’s not how it came across; Insteadit came across as her not liking someone else’s art, getting mad they they were getting attention because wit kept coming into her recommendations, so she tried to take Vivzipop down a peg. It’s was petty and unnecessary because literally nobody asked, and she literally didn’t make anything better.

[@pascuala.]

@@LaLaLaLaNom how tho

[@skipperdoodles3275]

@@LaLaLaLaNom She wasn’t talking down Vivziepop. How did you get that?

[@kaitlynp.9555]

These redesigns are a whole lot better than your last, it looks like you took more time and more thought into them this go around and they look really good now! And your art style is sooooo good on its own

[@kaitlynp.9555]

PS tho, please stop calling her Vag-gie like vagina lmao

[@donnovandalusong266]

Domenic M. 😂

[@kyaschafer7357]

@@kaitlynp.9555 Vaggie is literally a nickname for Vagina

[@kaitlynp.9555]

SkyesRandomDoodles doesn’t change the fact it’s not pronounced that way lmao

[@renny489]

I honestly love these designs more than Vivzie style, you can tell what animals they are and Alastor actually looks creepy.

[@starrazor670]

Renny wait we’re they suppose to be animals in the original cause i was thinking I like the original style more but if they were suppose to be animals this youtuber did a better job then vivzie.

[@melodicatyto]

Exactly

[@renny489]

@@starrazor670 Yea, Vaggie is supposed to be a moth and Alastor is supposed to be a deer, if you look at Valentino, hes also suppose to be a moth.

[@arsondoesstuff1135]

I do agree that the redraw shows the animals they were inspired by and that is really cool. However, I don't think Alaster is supposed to be creepy all the time. He is manipulative and trying to befriend the other characters most likely to stab them in the back later. To do this he must be approachable and somewhat friendly looking. He does have his scary moments in the pilot.

[@oluwatobi6415]

#dragon,cats #DC Exactly... I don’t know why everyone thinks alastor is meant to LOOK scary naturally

[@tangkwathetroublemakergirl555]

i love the fact that you being honest about clickbait part XD

[@sillykitty234]

1. Hunny you're makeup style is adorable 2. EEEE YOU DID RESEARCH THANK YOU! 3. Alastor ISNT A WATERMELOB ANYMORE

[@entityoflunar]

*_w a t e r m e l o b_*

[@Your_evil_friend_Penn_art]

*w a t e r m e l o b*

[@sillykitty234]

I can't spell- HMP if your willing to spend your whole life tryna learn me how to spell watermelon-

[@Your_evil_friend_Penn_art]

*w a t e r m e l o b*

[@figs-oliomedley]

*w a t e r m e l o b*

[@toneslight]

Ok, alastor is terrifying and I love it. That was my favorite redesign ngl. I’m genuinely unsettled in a way.

[@sophigames8786]

11:57 Absolutely love it. He's ACTUALLY scary and intimidating. The OG design is only scary when he's made to be, in which I am not shitting on Vivzie for because I get that's part of the design for him and part of the whole animation style and in ways apart of his character, but jeez. And, most important of all...HE LOOKS LIKE A DEER! I HAD TO HAVE MY FRIEND CONFIRM FOR ME THAT HE WAS A DEER BECAUSE HIS DESIGN AND THAT ANIMAL MAKE NO SENSE WHEN COMBINED. Also I am not shitting on Vivziepop as I stated earlier, those designs work for the show, but I do like these, that's all I'm saying I sometimes cap lock when I am passionate about a point or even slightly angry but it's not actual anger it's just...things....last time I cap locked a person got mad at me so now I have to clarify very clearly what I'm doing and I understand why....I'll stop talking now.

[@Samantha-Who-Writes]

Me, an Alastor Simp: **Sobs**

[@Featheryfaith7]

Meh.Both designs do looked intimdating. I liked Vivs design better. I knew off the bat that he does not like to be touched. As an artist myself, the first design is good enough for me because of that. It doesn't need to be changed. So I disagree.

[@who5789]

I quite like the teal colors. They really give off the “side drag queen” vibe

[@CrazyZinChan]

Vaggie seems to be the most complicated character, considering she is the most redesigned character by Viv

[@April_Carter]

Im so sorry we treated you so badly you genuanlly did fix them oh my god 😭 im glad people are finally talkjng about how samey the characters look and it reminded me of this

[@hailburgerking9080]

that alastor looks SOOOOOO much better for the time period hes from and the deer-like elements!

[@camilabalvar]

Girl, you didn't do anything wrong. Doesn't have to make up for anything. People in the internet get annoyed with everything. Making a loose to critic about a pilot you watched is not a big deal. You really really don't have to apologize.

[@wherethequietbeingsgo]

I agree. People are always going to have opinions. At least her's were educated in all senses.

[@TailcoatGames]

No one was really being mean to her more her art and the fact she didn’t do enough research if u say something on the internet it is PERMANENT u can never be too careful

[@Meppity]

Tailcoat Games you didn’t have to read through the death threats I was getting in my spam filter.

[@TailcoatGames]

Meppity if u get death threats do what I do when I’m scared pick up a sharp blade like if I’m home alone and get scared a weapon usually makes me feel safer but idk that’s just what I do if I’m scared I really like your new designs tho specially the red and white alastor

[@TailcoatGames]

Meppity but yeah that’s all I got for if u get scared of a death threat or if u really think they’ll do it I guess call the cops that’s all I got

[@DragonBee259]

Girl how did you predict the current state of Viv and HH 3 YEARS AGO 😭🤚🏽

[@Arisoup]

REAL 😭

[@karolchruzik1919]

art student explains herself to bunch of edgelords from tumblr because her previous video was too hastily made. I really shoudn't laugh at it but I can't help it.

[@NikolasoGames]

She's literally the most intelligent art student I've listened so far. It's incredible.

[@MaddiePatterson-jb3lg]

This.

[@MaddiePatterson-jb3lg]

Make that edgelords and viv stans.

[@SorryCracked]

this is wonderful, a huuuge improvement from the last one! you stopped and decided to explain your thought process more thoroughly and put more effort and time into each design and it really shows! these designs are absolutely amazing and i really enjoy the variety they offer if people come to hound you again, itll be just because of the video title and previous frustrations seriously, i dont think even the hardiest of hazbin hotel fans can not admit how great the designs are! whether they consider it better than the show or not’s up to them though but personally, i would love it if these designs were used!! even if it does have a different general feeling in comparison to the original aesthetic established for the characters

[@straightleap3465]

I'm going to be honest and say that I prefer these designs much more than the original of Vivziepop. These designs are more simple and look easier to animate, I'm not artist, but these speak to me a lot more. Vivziepop art style is just not for me, take this with a grain of salt coming from someone who is in love with Helluva Boss. Alastor's design is also much more sinister with a touch caught like a deer in the headlights.

[@bekw4366]

Personally I totally agree with you on everything you said! :)

[@ghoultooth]

@Alexa Alex Jones Well no, he’s a spider. So he needs spider characteristics. He honestly doesn’t look much like a spider in the current design besides the extra legs. Edit: not to mention he has the incorrect amount of legs.

[@__Lovelicky__]

I think this redesign is better cause it has more of their personality Plus when you explain it slower it help me understand a bit more.

[@mollylikesspace]

Tbh meppity is my favourite yt artist. Not only because of her amazing art, but shes also ready to confess to her mistakes and I completely agree! She has so much talent these are what her redesigns should've looked like all along. Artist go through a lot of bad drawings before getting the final result (I know) I really respect her for this :) Plus omg love the hairrrrrr

[@behemoth_5152]

I LOVE Alastor's design. I totally prefer this one is the sense that he looks SO different from the rest of the characters, like a "different breed" of demon, which i feel suits his character so much. As he is normally, he looks cool, but also blends into the red sea of background much too easily. And now the ears and antlers fit better, before i hadn't even noticed them.

[@DivineDEC]

yes most of your points are indeed valid and the antlers do indeed fit better and are far more noticeable but the old design was more to my liking personally.

[@behemoth_5152]

Also if you think about animals in nature usually the only ones th hat are brightly colored and flashy are prey animals that may or may not be poisonous, although the environment being as flaming asshole red as he is does punch a hole in this theory

[@behemoth_5152]

Bc he blends in with it in that regard

[@DivineDEC]

@@behemoth_5152 I don't really think it fits Allistor as much as the original, and she kind of went all in with that deer aspect and that's just not him. It was a part of how he died but it definitely was not a big a part of his life overall in the grand scheme of things.

[@behemoth_5152]

@@DivineDEC the grand irony if becoming the prey animal he hunted is def significantly better take in regards to character design than the edgy 13-year olds demon oc look but if you like it you like it 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

[@Hopefell]

I don’t care for any of Vaggie’s designs, I think that she looks weird and will always look weird if we stick to what she looks like right now. I love how Charlie looks in this video! The bell shapes make her look nicer, and i feel like if you talked to this version of her, she would be the nicest most selfless person ever! I love love love how Alastor looks in this one! It reminds me of how i get scared while watching a horror movie. I feel like if you met him he would be someone who hypnotizes you gradually with his comforting looks and color palette, then consumes you slowly like a spider. Scary. And oh boy, Angel Dust looks FABULOUS! I feel like he’s the only person who could pull off calling someone ‘babe’ without it feeling awkward. I love him! And i love your videos on this topic!

[@Hopefell]

I just noticed that one of her hands is backwards 0-0

[@buenasnoches5792]

God, I love that alastor. It expressed its intended emotions more than the original one.

[@auralunaprettycure]

awanight . . . Agreed man, agreed. Alastor’s personality is so BIG and show stealing so the fact that his current design isn’t really fitting to that is the biggest problem imo

[@jam4406]

(Vivziepop)OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOF

[@azrieldalusong5042]

After seeing official redesign of Alastor, your's is actually better because you decide to take risk to solve the main issues of his design.

[@PIB2000]

Imagine an episode of Hazbin Hotel where the Hazbin cast is thrown into an alternate dimension and end up meeting their redesigned versions. Charlie: "So, uh...any luck with the hotel?" Charlie 2: "Oh yes! I-ignore that tumbleweed. Business is bustling..." Charlie: "Oh. I just figured, you know, with that cool tuxedo, you'd be more successful." Both: "Maybe Dad had a point." Vaggie: "I knew I should have skewered Alastor with my spear. Con sabor a fresa, hijo de puta." Vaggie 2: "The hell is with that X floating on top of my hair? And why am I so tiny?" Angel: "Hey, this guy's got a heart on his ass! I love me!" Angel 2: "Vaggie, ya know how yesterday you told me to go fuck myself? Well I'm gonna do just that!" Angel: "Wait, is it sex or masturbation if I fuck another me? Either way, I'm totally up for it." Both Vaggies: "SHUT THE FUCK UP, ANGEL!" Vaggie 2: "At least I've found someone who hates him as much as I do." Alastor: "Excuse me, who are you?" Alastor 2: "My name is ALASTOR, but to sinners, I am known as THE RADIO DEMON!" Alastor: "No no no no no. You are sorely mistaken. I am Alastor. I am the one and only Radio Demon. Now allow me to ask again. Who. Are. You?" Al 2: "No, I think YOU are mistaken. My antlers are big and triumphant! While yours, my good fellow, are small and pathetic. One look at my suit and you know I'm all business. While you look like-oh, how did your Angel put it?-ah yes, a strawberry pimp. I am clearly the real deal." "Shut your mouth! Or else I will tear off those antlers, and shove them so far up there, merely sitting will put you in agonizing pain." "My good man, I cannot take your words seriously with that haircut. I believe you are what the kids of today would call-edgy. I don't know who you are, but I do know that you are one sad, strange little man and I feel sorry for you." Angel: "Alastors, wanna attempt a four-way?" Angel 2: "Yeah! We don't mind takin' deer dick up the ass!" Angel: "You can shove your antlers up MY ass if you want!" Both Als: "DAMMIT, ANGEL!" Al: "Huh, maybe we are the same." Al 2: "Say, do you perhaps want to help me break every bone in their bodies?" Al: "Of course! We're practically brothers after all." Charlie: "So you have issues with you dad too?" Charlie 2: "Yeah, he doesn't believe in rehabilitation. Nobody else down here does. I think even Vaggie sort of doubts it but she just goes along out of love and respect. And when I went on the news to talk about my cause-" Charlie: "Everyone laughed at you and Katie Killjoy tried to kill you for taking her pen." Charlie 2: "Yeah. But it was my fault. I made a fool of myself. Vaggie was right. The song was a stupid idea." Charlie: "Not one of our finest moments." Charlie 2: "But you know what? I'm still going through with my plan. Maybe people will warm up to the idea. Because I believe-" Charlie: "That even the worst demons have a bit of good deep down." Angel: "OOF! A broken spine is our kink! Yeah baby, keep kicking me in the stomach." Angel 2: "I love the feeling of broken ribs and being kicked in the balls!" Angel: "Hey, can I have what he's having?"

[@sandythedaydreamer9402]

Your comment is so underrated- 😂 Bless you, you wonderful human.

[@mizzapple2947]

I'd definitely like to see that now

[@PIB2000]

@@mizzapple2947 It'd be fucking awesome if the Hazbin team or some other animator found this and made it into an animated short.

[@PIB2000]

@@sandythedaydreamer9402 Charlie: "Hey Angel, where's your double?" Angel: "Fuck me! I can go fuck myself!" Charlie 2: "What happened?" Angel: "He tried to outwhore me. Not even Angel can outwhore Angel! And he said his Fat Nuggets is much fuckin' better than MY Fat Nuggets! NOBODY disses Fat Nuggets! Vaggie: "Even Angel can't stand himself." Vaggie 2: "Not surprising. He always finds a way to make everyone hate his guts." Angel 2: "Just learn to accept the fuckin' truth. Mine is the superior pig." Angel: "He'd make superior bacon." Angel 2: *covers Fat Nugget's ears* "Don't you *EVER* say such awful words around my child!" Angel: "Not my fault your child is ugly." Angel 2: "Oh yeah? How about I turn you and your fuckin' pig into pulled pork!" Angel: *pulls out machine gun* "Take him from my hands. I dare you, motherfucker." Angel 2: "First you insult my child, then my mom! I didn't wanna have to do this, but now I'm gonna have to put a few goddamn holes in your handsome sexy face!" *whips machine gun out of pants* Charlie: "Woah! This got real intense real quick!" Vaggie: "Also, where were you hiding those?" Both Angels: "Don't ask."

[@ileanabriannemari]

@@PIB2000 We can wish, but they're still in pilot rn so prob not lmao

[@seilseternity8236]

I am going to be blunt, the last designs? I think they where pretty terrible but THESE where so much better and much more interesting to view and everything

[@rosesgarden8622]

I feel like a lot of people like the old designs because there’s used to them and associate the characters with those designs. If vivziepop changed them to be easier to animate or more appealing people would complain.

[@hayamakaily9059]

Cue 10 months later with Charlie's official new design with the only differences are new red pants, red eyes and bigger shoulder pads.

[@kenonade]

i love your alastor design!! he's definitely a lot more unsettling and intimidating with the longer limbs, the face, and the clothing.

[@harpycartoons2695]

“I was harsh because I actually really want the show to flourish” THANK YOU! I constantly critique the show but only because I see so much potential and want it to be great. I wish more people understood that.

[@amanimator9452]

I enjoyed the redesigns, but the rant towards the second half of the video just seemed like you scolding the viewers for criticizing your last vid. You just kept telling “Im sorry uyoufelt offended” and “u couldn’t understand the video” just feels like a huge middle finger with a tiny fine print saying ‘its just my opinion’. U gotta work on how u share your opinions

[@theflaminglitten-fo6jd]

yea it sounds like one of those backhanded apologies someone would say to a person they felt were overreacting, like they took their favorite skirt and ruined it and they say ''sorry you feel bad over a tiny skirt lmao'' instead of actually apologizing

[@lunalee3021]

Her video wasn't actually anything she needed to apologize for, there are just too many petty people you can never please

[@Cecil...]

This exactly! The rant just gets worse and worse, with remarks that go something like "Duh!" and "Clearly I was mistaken in thinking people would understand my obvious joke. My viewership age dropped so that makes sense..." Like... you're mad that your critique is being critiqued? Double standards?

[@lotusdragonjbh]

I really really like this set of redesigns and I am even happier that you used your art style as oppsed to trying to mimic hazbin's. It helps illustrate your point a little more to me,can't say why. I really like your vaggiendesigh and I am glad you changed uo some aspects of her body and coloration. She looks simple enough to animate but complex enough to have a distinctive design. Plus I live the blueish purple on her , it reminds me of Hercules's Hades (Disney). I am much happier with this alistors design ,compared to both your last one and the one from the show, the one here has a certain amount if grace we associate with both deer and him . That.... And I can finally see his antlers. Charlie's redesign is absolutely adorable as well. I am glad the low ponytail was removed , it could allow for more expression and movement with the hair. I had no idea she was supposed to be a marrionette. But I really like the side bowtie and the rounded ends to her pants and shirt. It's nice. Angels design was always kinda meh, to me, you did what you could and I think you executed it well. I'm not bashing the show runners not the pilot so don't take it as such. I look at the pilot designs and I am not entirely sure why they are supposed to be. I look at vagie and am told she is supposed to be a moth. But there isn't anything moth like about her. She looks more like a pastel dead girl than anything. The fact that you had to tell me that instead of me being able to tell just from looking at her is already signs of a muddled designs or dissonance. I thought Angel dust was just some fuzzy bug or a mish-mash of creatures. I had to be TOLD he was a spider. the only hint was when he had all four out.but he usually has out two sets so there goes the insect comparison instead of being aracnide traits. Alistair is supposed to be a deer... With like fifteen different back stories. Well , I am not saying make him look like an athro of furry dear , but the least the designer could have did was make his antlers visible and NOT make him blend into the back ground. I don't see any deer aspect in him and I have to squint to see those twigs people call antlers. And this isn't me being mean, some the characters are unreadable and I should not have to look at a backlog of information elsewhere just to see what they are. I should be able to see it from the pilot. The foundation should already be there. The animation is okay , the art style is okay , it's the design choices and color theory that needs to be re-examined. Why does Alistair , killjoy, and Charlie have nearly the exact same color pallet? Values aside , their colors are even the same. And even mimyz or whatever the flapper's name is shares colors with Charlie. You can still use color theory in hell. Plus pilots are meant to be rough drafts to critique and change. They are not the end all to the rest of the show. The Powerpuff girls pilot looks very different from the official show. Courage the cowardly dog's pilot looks different from the original show. Adventure times pilot looks different from the original show. There is a big possibility that any of these designs will change and that's on whim of the show runners or what is required. There were those being petty and then there are actual , legitimate critiques to be had for the show. And I feel like your critiques were warranted. Many of the people that crusaded for this show attacked others for their own redesigns and ideas. Not everyone what on the show , they just had different ideas and input , there is a difference. But these same rabid fans and fans that acted like they were personally attacked, did not care. It was alarming to see. Art style and design choices are not an excuse to avoid critism. That will always stand true. Regardless , I enjoyed the video and you art was lovely. These are beautiful and have far more effort in them so I commend you for coming back for a round two.

[@annameyl]

21:58 No no no uhuh, that I want to correct, people didn't say you couldn't re-design them, they said you shouldn't "FIX" them. There is a big difference between the two. Redesign is taking something and making it in your own way. Fixing is taking someting broken and then making it good. Saying that you'll fix someones art is incredibly rude. That's saying that their art is inherently bad/broken and then that you can correct (fix) the flaws. ((I know that there is no "fixing" in the title but it's in the thumbnail, the thing that Represents the video))

[@despinasgarden.4100]

True, the problem was that and that she make the desings very.... Ugly, but she did make some good points on that video and also in this one she really make a good alternate characters desing.

[@ileanabriannemari]

@@despinasgarden.4100 The good thing is that she actually put effort and proper research on this new vid. Not every youtuber who does fixing videos do this. I'm glad the redesigns were splendid tho!

[@starrynight1165]

Yeah, just dont say your gonna fix peoples art and its good

[@SunyCartoons]

I agree that "fixing" art is absolute bullshit, however she did say that it was clickbait. I don't agree with clickbait because it's pointless, however she wasn't trying to "fix" the designs.

[@TakashiDemonServant]

Yea fixing other’s art will make you seem like to the rest of the people that you’re a jerk.

[@MaddiePatterson-jb3lg]

The Hazbin hotel fandom and show are like a bunch of alligators in a pond. If you touch their water, they'll come snapping at you. Meppity, I'm so sorry that these people smashed you to the ground with their toxicity, why can't they just understand that you were only trying give your own interpretation of the cast instead of hating on it. From what I've reading in the comments I know that you shouldn't "fix" people's work. Seeing this, you've clearly learned from your past mistake. Unfortunately, Vivzie's minions once again came and jumped on you like a pack of wild dogs. So, please Meps, don't let these people trash you, I'm sure you're a GREAT artist with exponential talent. Keep going girl.❤❤

[@OscarBoscar889]

as a young artist this helped me figure out how to design charcters better. thankyou!

[@Fisinocean]

Well, since im also a young beginner artiat i whole heartedly recomend Bam animation video on character design, its super helpful.

[@myrmuur9367]

Yess I've been waiting for this💛 It's insane how much work you put into these videos with the editing and everything

[@adriendAyEP]

Oop I was not expecting an apology People who usually “correct” people’s art don’t apologize. Respect

[@swisscheeze8594]

She hardly apologized, she made small attempts to reconcile with her viewers without coming straight out and just apologizing. There was always a "but", which isnt genuine. Shes just covering her ass at this point, she shouldve just apologized for her shitty behavior in the first video without trying to justify it. 0/10 not an apology

[@phamdung3884]

@@swisscheeze8594 so... your source?

[@swisscheeze8594]

@@phamdung3884 you mean to tell me i needed to research her opinion and "apology that was in her fucking video that this comment was on? Shit bro i didnt know that!

[@phamdung3884]

@@swisscheeze8594 no, I meant the “she made small attempts to reconcile with her viewers without coming straight out and just apologizing.” Like, what do you think is the correct way to reconcile?

[@phamdung3884]

@@swisscheeze8594 no, I meant the “she made small attempts to reconcile with her viewers without coming straight out and just apologizing.” Like, what do you think is the correct way to reconcile?

[@saneplathreader637]

I love Hazbin, don't get me wrong, but these designs are just excellent and portray the characters better than I thought was possible. Nice work!

[@ll_seaqueen_ll]

The more I look at your version of Alastor, the more I realized that maybe Vivziepop's design isn't as solid as I think it is I mean if he's suppose to have buck/deer qualities why does he have owl ears? Why is his antlers so small like a baby if he's suppose to be much older? Why isn't his figure much more stronger? Why does he have a glass molecule and a emo haircut if he died in the 1930s?

[@thebossrealm]

Deer can have ears like that? His horns get much MUCH larger in full demon form same way Charlie’s horns come out. And fashion? Really that’s up to whatever someone finds in hell is it not? Anyone can find a new style.

[@somethingwithbungalows]

Brandon Delisle yeah but still... it makes you feel like he just walked outta a hot topic lol

[@somecallmeblue]

Hes a wendigo. You know the deer creatures that are always hungry. So making him thin makes sense

[@Derpy_Bird427]

Actually those weren't supposed to be ears, originally they were tufts of hair that vivzipop just thought looked cool but during one of the hunicasts (a livestream series that one of the clean up artist's for hazbin hosts) she decided that they are in fact hair-ears.

[@leomartinez8382]

It makes sense he is weaker tough as he uses his magic more than fighting.

[@TapperPlushMom]

A lot of your points actually do a great job explaining why I've only ever watched the Hazbin Hotel pilot *once.* I watch other peoples' music videos far more frequently. The pilot was hard for me to watch, even though in all honesty I love Alastor and Angel Dust (which one's actually my favorite changes daily). Your suggestions and comments regarding silhouette and color palette are extremely valuable to me for when I get around to the final design of my animated "Personality Menagerie" series. Many of my characters do have unique silhouettes (at least, they ought to, since they're supposed to be half- or fully-animalistic and not all the same animal either), and I was already planning on giving them all different color accents (ultimately, different nail polish colors so that when I'm cosplaying as them and I'm reaching in front of a camera people will know whose hands those are supposed to be), but I hadn't really thought about how important the differences in color palette could be. Now I know that when I get around to the Great Outfit Update for the characters I've already released and will be releasing relatively soon before I can make the new outfit, I should make sure their colors - while parallelling each other to an extent since they're supposed to all be aspects of one person's personality, hence the name - should also be different from each other. Same skin tone or close enough, same hair color or close enough, same eye color or close enough, _shake up the outfits and hairstyles in a big way._

[@flameman24209]

To freakin long

[@TapperPlushMom]

@@flameman24209 If you don't like essay-comments, then don't read them. I got overly passionate about what she was talking about.

[@aisharane]

I’m loving how much personality I’m able to gleam from the color palette and poses of the new designs! And letting your art style shine through was such a treat; the characters felt more natural and grounded 💕 Thank you for staying strong under such amount of criticism and staying true to your values 🙏 I can see why some people weren’t so happy with the results of your previous video, but you’ve tackled all the little things that had left me disconcerted in these new redesigns. Great job! ✨

[@RedHatClub]

I don't blame people or you for not knowing much on the characters and omitting key elements of the characters or no idea what they are going for. The lore and background of the characters are all over the place and I as a fan don't know much about them and what the elements in their design is, (like the moth design in Vaggie, how that eye thing was the injurie of her death and what Alistor was, his deer features is more emo than anything). Some say to read the outside info like the comics for background, but it shouldn't be like that the pilot should provide that info initially. So to Vivziepop, she should make the character lore straightforward and not that people should scratch and hunt for that info, simplify the characters (too much stuff on them especially for animation, I saw some animators missing some character details so it is too much), make key design elements key and important (the Vaggie example) and try letting go a bit of how the characters were before in the past. She's had them for a long time, but the changes they went though are not really much, it's time for second opinions from other artists to better them. Overall Viv has potential and the skill for greatness, but its a long way from being final.

[@KandiR0xiKat]

Yeah I have to agree. When I saw Charlie for the first time in the trailer, I had NO IDEA she was supposed to be a princess. Other than her doing that interview she just could've been some dude advertising her hotel, not anyone important. Plus why is she wearing a tux??? Alastor and Angel I get but Charlie? The only thing I can think of is that shes a bellhop or something but c'mon a little more diversity please XD

[@fizzycat3506]

I mean are they wrong? No. I think they also have a point. The info people are searching for should of been already in the pilot and Charlie looks NOTHING like a princess nor did something right with the hotel idea. She should of made it like Barnes and Noble. 50% a rehab center, and 50% a hotel. People could relax and chill in their hotel rooms or outside with a pool or something like that inside or outside of the hotel. And there can be a cafe too if some would want to drink some coffee or order something to eat like some croissants but overall, it should mostly been a REHAB center. Not a hotel (that was a missed opportunity I thought Vivzie would take but guess not which kind of sucks because I mean it's like Barnes and Nobles .n.)

[@BonazaiGirl]

kaseydilla I was about to say this. Only one episode has been released, the pilot, and therefore it’s pretty much a given that we’ll learn more as the show goes on. We cannot expect to be given all the information right off the bat when we’re literally just getting started.

[@KandiR0xiKat]

@Ocean Blue I never said she had to wear a dress. If anything she should wear something like princely attire rather than a common tux. Revolutionary Girl Utena comes to mind. She definitely seems like a prince charming dashing towards her dreams lol

[@KandiR0xiKat]

@Ocean Blue Revolutionary girl Utena is a popular anime whose main character, Utena, aspires to be a prince and acts in a tomboyish manner. I've personally never watched it but I've heard it's pretty good. You're also right. It probably is a bit much to wear all that get-up. Honestly I think the lady in the video did a splendid job in redesigning Charlie's outfit, its sophistcated yet casual, and the neck bow is absolutely adorable! Plus she stands out much more than her current design. In the end, Vivzie can do what she likes and I respect that. Those were just my personal thoughts.

[@idk_man3491]

We didn't know how good we had it until it was gone 💔

[@RahRizzle123]

I would have never learned Vaggie was a moth till now

[@sethscarboro2682]

I hated your old ones. I love all of your new ones. They are so good. I wouldn't use them in the show because I feel like the style doesn't fit the essence of the show, but I thought they were very good. I prefered alastor's red color scheme. I think it would have been cool if you used the red color scheme with yellow radio dial eyes. I also don't really like the purple on vaggie, but that's just me. I think these redesigns are actually beautiful and you did a fantastic job. Thanks for explaining your mistakes from the last one. This is good content.

[@dizizarthurlodar4808]

True. I love the strawberry alastor and i love his creepiness

[@Angielikesmints]

Charlie:love it Vaggie:the hair aint mah cup of tea Alastor:NIGHTMARE FUEL!!! angel:ok now im really confused on gender

[@tothekookyfellas]

Anyone else like this redesign ALOT better? The other ones upset me a little

[@skinny_rat263]

All of them upset me lol

[@PajkaEagle]

What the frick happend to alastor he's like coco from animal corssing but with some nightmare fuel

[@nixsharp9517]

Im honestly really happy you redesigned these characters. It's nice to watch a critique with reasoning so then someone can know how to improve their own designs. I've always really loved the mature art community on the internet that can state an opinion and just be understood. Because as an aspiring storyboard artist and character designer, I don't want to be held back by a cushioning critique. I want to be told what is and isn't working, and it's okay if it isn't what I want to hear. Creating a story for an audience is meant to be loved by a wider audience, not just myself and the team I work with. So thank you for redesigning these characters with diligence and keeping in mind that stories are not meant to be kept to those who create them.

[@temboiboi7943]

Alistor has his antlers hidden because when he gets in his creepy, voodoo form, his antlers grow. It adds to the creepy factor of a evil deer, cannibal, and strawberry pimp we all know and love.

[@timbu839]

yea and I like his red color scheme because it makes him blend in with the others, since he's manipulative and all

[@nicofredrick5248]

I enjoyed hearing your insights about Hazbin Hotel. As you are someone who isn't afraid to share your opinions on subjects you are passionate about. It is something I admire about you. You made some very good points about design that I loved hearing about. On your last video I think I just felt upset because I understand that you are an incredibly talented artist and I wanted to see the redesigns in your style. Although I do realize that you were trying to respect the creators. I find that redesigns in an artists own style are there to showcase what you would have changed up instead. Which is what makes them quite enjoyable. I think what I'm trying to say is I come to this channel for you. I watch your videos for your art and to see what you would change in a show, to see what you will create. Not for someone else's art style who I have already seen.

[@endernanismles1174]

I love how you made Charlie look, she looks so nice and friendly and I just wanna hug her!

[@badger6872]

I really hated your old video about this, you just didn’t really seem to care at all about these characters and the comparisons you made like with color pallets and other stuff was really not fair, the poses of the Hazbins were very similar while all the others were iconic, and the pallets had them in an upright order, in order, and in height the same, none of which you did for the hazbins. But I can commend this video due to the fact that you took more into account the actual characters and what makes it themselves rather then just what you liked. I also like the fact that these are more full fledged redesigns rather then actually trying to fix designs that you have no say in

[@craftypixel7992]

I mean it was her opinion

[@prosperosmoon]

@@craftypixel7992 Yeah but she keeps saying "These are better you should change it to this." You can have your opinions, but it's rude to push them onto others.

[@AnEmu404]

You know what? I appreciate the proper explanation and you being able to discuss the flaws of your previous video. I’m a fan of Hazbin, not a hardcore one or anything, i do still have some gripes with your re-redesigns but as you said, they’re just suggestions. In your original video i did feel annoyed by the lack of research, and stuff in general, but i understood where you were coming from and didn’t necessarily hate you. I’m glad you went into more detail about things, i too think Alastor’s bright red could be at least toned down a bit, muted colours make him seem more scary in a controlled sense. As i said there are some bits that i politely disagree with, but i think you definitely make some good points. You earned my respect back :)

[@Wobbmin]

Oh my god your Alastor design is so unsettling and I think that's perfect when you add in his mannerisms and personality.

[@borisrusinov3980]

Now this version of Alastor is a bonafide Eldritch Demon. It's scary and creepy in ways the OG one simply ain't

[@rabburtt1841]

Now before you start making assumptions, this is NOT targeted at Meppity. I'm just saying my views on this type of thing, and didn't intend on directing it towards a specific person. I'll admit that Hazbin Hotel's character design has it's flaws, (For example, the four main characters are all tall, skinny, and have a similar color palette). And hopefully Vivzie tries to change some of the character design issues, and at least not make any new ones. But that doesn't mean that the art style is necessarily BAD either. And i don't have an issue with people redrawing characters in their own artstyle or vision. But when someone says their "fixing" art, they're just being an asshole and pretty much saying "Hey! Your artstyle is "objectively" bad, so i'm going to "fix" it completely disregarding the fact that people have their own taste and can draw in whatever artyle they feel comfortable with!" Now, this IS directed to Meppity, but it's not meant to be a targeted insult. At least not intentionally. The redesigns in your last video weren't that great (Ex: green Alastor). These were a HUGE improvement from before. And it's nice to see that someone can understand any mistakes that were made and improve upon them.

[@matilde_5]

Yeah, I kinda think the stuff in the other video was kinda worse than the original and the poses were a little awkward-

[@ilikegoblo4665]

I think the fixing was done for mild click bait as she said in the begging of of the vid

[@genchamillion7691]

The redesign of alastor is great He isnt emo He isnt too "evil" He cant be used on owo shits He looks more eerie and more like a hellish man The real evil Great job I dont like the eyes that much but its a cartoon so yeah I recommend you to make it more eerie tho No hate just recommending an improvement for your art to be greater

[@maxhasproblems4885]

Gen Chamillion plus, i feel like Alastor’s current voice would suit terrifying deer man just as well, if not more than current alastor

[@savythenillerwaffer]

Ok, how?

[@luvcassie]

wdym more eerie? If you were to distort alastor any more than mepp did here he’d start to lose his visual appeal

[@yeethittter1285]

"He can't be used on owo shits" Are you challenging me?

[@blackrosejinx5563]

I much like these redesigns better, they are so much cuter, and I love the overall feel. I’m glad she addressed some of the hate and the slightly disrespectful things she said in her first video. I feel like this video was done a lot more gracefully and I now have a crush on her redesign of Charlie.

[@blitzwolfer4154]

I have some comments about your re-redesigns: Charlie's re-redesign looks amazingly good and turned out better then what I expected after watching your first video! The only thing I don't really like is the large red circles that supposed to give a more marionette appearance, as I feel they take up too much on the face (really my opinion). Another thing I don't like is the size of the ears, but it really is down to someone's preferences. Vaggie's re-redesign looks good but I still prefer Vivziepop's Vaggie. I would tolerate some proportional modifications, but that's a simply biased opinion. Also, I did not know she was based on a moth, I suppose I didn't read that part in the wiki. Alastor's re-redesign is quite interesting, not in a bad way. I don't dislike it nor do I adore it although I must admit I still prefer the original Alastor. I can't say exactly what it is, but he gives off a unique vibe that is unique to his design made by Vivziepop. Your version looks pretty nice overall, it has that creepy vibe with that smile and stares, but it doesn't quite give off the radio vibe as original Alastor does (biased opinion). The only thing I don't like is the ears, it throws me off in a certain way. My favorite of your designs is the fourth one except with red hair! Angel Dust's re-redesign looks pretty good as well, at the same level as Charlie's re-redesign. The color schemes for me are sort of weird most likely due to my favoritism towards the original Angel's color scheme. The only thing I don't like is the eyes, as I kinda like the heterochromatic sclera, with one eye have yellow-tinted sclera and the other with brown-ish sclera. Conclusion: Your re-redesigns are *EPIC* . Some minor details I don't like but overall damn good. I really like your attitude and ability to admit your faults and accept criticism, unlike many influential KZbinrs and high profile people on Twitter and KZbin. You explain really well why you thought about what should be changed and some points I can agree with. The fact that you admitted you have an ego and accepted criticism is what gonna make me sub and like this vid!

[@flameman24209]

This is too long i cant read it

[@TheNoobler]

Really good points! I like the way you worded it as well. I think I agree for the most part, I do like these new designs as separate characters but I wouldn't replace the real ones. I do agree that they're very unique looking. I like both art styles a lot, however for the show, I do prefer Vivzie's. Also, if ya don't wanna read the long paragraphs, then don't... Why comment how lazy you are? Sorry but I don't get that... :/

[@hindsunup6777]

Amazing criticism

[@pay1370]

Am i the only one who actually liked green allistair? Also i love the new redesigns here, your style works really well with giving them personality.

[@julien4305]

green alastor was a fun concept but the green she used isnt really alastor. to be fair green is a hard color to pull off in general

[@witherslayer-7315]

Alastor*

[@Kai-gc3qd]

Am I the only one who wouldnt like hasbin hotel much if the characters looked like this?

[@turquoisecrow4513]

I really didn’t like it. The green and red just clashed so horrifically. Especially the shades that she picked. Just...tacky looking. I love the new design though.

[@emmyuwu5934]

I really like Alestor’s redesign here. It’s a lot more erie and less gothic looking because when he was alive, he wouldn’t have been done up like a goth. Plus I really like the placement and size of the ears and horns. Plus the radio you did in your redesign is sooo much better.

[@Samantha-Who-Writes]

...I like the artwork but it's just....No. No, don't do this to my simple, classy, charismatic deer boi, not him plz.

[@becca9907]

As someone that loves Alastor... your redesign is awesome! I love the thought you put into each of the components, especially the 1930s inspiration for hair and suit. In general, I think you did a great job with these. Love to see someone come back and address something they aren't proud of in a mature, reasonable way.

[@penusbutter4182]

I really like your vaggie redesign. The moth silhouette is really distinctive, and shape diversity is always a win.

[@xero4601]

You did much better this time around, instead of the imposing signs of “fixing designs” you did a critique this time around instead of a diss towards the designs

[@nathy_is_lazy]

I just loved the concept of alastor's design! The clothes, haircut and body language is so graceful but creepy at the same time, i really like characters like this .

[@dawg1313]

These designs are great! I love that you went and studied the characters. This was honestly, one of the most mature responses to disagreement I’ve seen in awhile, I respect that deeply! 😤👏💅

[@MaddiePatterson-jb3lg]

To everyone in the comments: "Nothing's *ever* good enough for you, is there?

[@ghostsys3699]

I believe theres a theory going around that Vaggie is a fallen angel. I just wanted to bring that up because I really like the difference in color scheme you chose compared tothe others. It does look really cool and out of place.