Re: "The Kawasaki KLR 650 is an AWFUL Motorcycle for Beginners!" What?!

[@Broito]

I am a 21 year old female. 130 lb, 5'8" I have a gen 1 KLR650 and I love it. I was really scared of it at first, but it's so easy to ride. The only thing I do not love about it is the weight. I've walked it over uneven off road terrain and it's a fat pig to muscle around, and if it starts leaning you kind of just step away and let it go. But, it's a ton of fun to ride, we adjusted the rear suspension to my weight (took it all the way down as far as it could go) and even though I can't flat-foot it I still feel like I have fairly good control of it. The thing is an absolute blast, and even though I wouldn't want it for serious off-roading because of the weight, I love it for street riding, moderate highway (tops at ~90 with the gearing), and minor off-roading. Even in heavy wind on the highway the bike feels planted, because of the weight. For me, it is a great beginner bike (after being confident enough to not constantly be dropping it).

[@eveRide]

This is a PERFECT comment! Thanks so much!

[@tuliprhonda]

Do you ride alone or with a group? Do you pick it up on your own or get help? If you pick it up by yourself, what is your technique?

[@S1CKTR1CKY]

Tulip * When it goes down, sit on the ground against the seat. Hold the passenger handle and the handle bars. Then, using your legs only, push against the seat and upwards.

[@Broito]

Tulip * I prefer to ride with people, but I've been mostly riding by myself. The only times I've dropped the bike have been when I was parked, so there were always people around to help me pick it up. I was doing the normal way, where you put your back to it and lift with your knees, but that was never working for me. I did have a friend tell me a different way to try, but I haven't gotten a chance to practice that way at all. Something about turning the handlebars as far as they can go, holding onto the front brake, and rolling it up as you stand with it.

[@DavidHathaway]

This was my first dual sport, largely because it was cheap enough even new that I could live with dropping it. The cheapness continued into farkling, where the entire community is cheapskates; the aftermarket recognizes this and prices accordingly. Then I learned some basic off road skills, and found the KLR extremely forgiving. I wasn't sure I'd like offroading, so the KLR was perfect. Now I know that I love dual sports, and just invested in an Africa Twin, that lets me ride the 100s of miles to quality offroading.

[@FrederickCouch]

Your evaluation about the KLR was one of the reasons I got one. Great bikes!

[@natachatumadre9684]

I´m a 60 year old, 5´7" woman and I ride a GS1200 (all the way down to Patagonia. I tried a friend´s KLR and must say in comparison with my big, fat BMW this Kawasaki is an offroad dream

[@enfieldnelly]

I'm a mid-40s fella, with complex PTSD that has left my cognition affected. The KLR is my first motorcycle, ever, after having attended a one week school here in Canada, and barely made it through. After practicing for a year, I passed my government road test with one recorded error. I am also 6', 210 lbs, but was nervous of the lowered CRF250s at the course, initially, so... My KLR is awesome as a first bike! SIMPLE, small, and if you ham fist the controls, it won't kill you. I call her "The Donkey"- Will putter around and get me anywhere. That said, I have yet to get it off pavement. One day. Variable traction terrifies me at present, but I will get there - slowly!

[@FastSloW-qt8xf]

Take it easy on dirt the front likes to wash out... these are do anything bikes. Have fun

[@janvanderwalt2207]

Good to hear you enjoy your KLR. take an easy gravel trip at low speeds just to get used to it. You will see its great offroad.

[@BSE1320]

Its a heavy bike. No doubt of that. Sits tall. Its not a one size fits all, not even one size fits most. Its cheap, it'll run, and its relatively easy to fix when something breaks. Thats a good mix for a new rider.

[@EachAdventure]

Awesome video man! I thought it was really cool for you to address both the good and bad parts of the KLR650. What I have learned after owning multiple bikes is that there is no "perfect bike" and with whatever motorcycle you choose there are going to be some trade offs. Learning how to deal with a bikes shortcomings are all part of the riding experience. Nice job!

[@buckeyebeliever3397]

After 3 years this video is still helping people! I’m getting my motorcycle endorsement tomorrow so I can finally buy the KLR 650 I’ve been oogling at online and go adventure camping!!

[@Dirtpoorhomesteader]

I upgraded my rear suspension with a top gun stiffer spring. It was relatively easy. Just spring clamps is all that's really needed minus normal set of tools. Cost 130 altogether. Completely transformed the bike, it can handle heavy load without sag and is planted on pavement. I consider it the most enhancing farkle.

[@clehmann24789]

best klr 650 footage I have seen! great video! I love my klr and have no problem at all handling it on or off road. I am 5'8 140lbs. I have even taken it on some pretty rocky treacherous single track trails with my girlfriend on the back. keep your speed steady, never stop looking for your line and don't think "oh shit" until after you pass your obstacle haha.

[@davidmilam1908]

I moved to Oregon 3 years ago, had never been on a dual sport motorcycle prior, I purchased a 2008 KLR 650 with 11,000 mileson it, took a course with team oregon on a tw200 and started riding my KLR after passing the course. I personally feel it has been a great bike for me as a beginner and put over 7,000 miles on it both on and off road. I added many farkles myself and do all maintenance which save lots of money. To me it is the best bang for the buck and is a great dual sport for my kind of riding. Everide thanks for the great videos you produce and for inspiring me to get out and explore the world of ADV. I am hooked!

[@motorcyclemichaeladv4531]

Great Video. You've got the KLR nailed down in this evaluation. I agree with everything. I am 6'4" so height wasn't a problem for me, in fact it was a plus. The suspension is a little soft, but after adding progressive springs to the front fork and a 7.4kg/mm spring to the rear shock from Top Gun Shocks that problem was pretty easily and cheaply ($90.00 each) resolved and is even better then I thought it was when I first got the KLR. Thanks for all the vids!

[@SwankyCatProductions]

I love mine more and more every day! I think it's a great beginner adventure bike, keyword, ADVENTURE bike. I think a lot of people expect it to be a motocross bike in the dirt and a crotch rocket on the pavement which just isn't realistic. The KLR isn't the best bike but in my opinion, it is the best mix of highway and dirt you can get for the money. Great video everide!

[@greencondoresq]

I'm 5'11" and started on a KLR650, which I still ride. One thing I love about it, it's so versatile. Right now, I've got it set up for more road riding since I use it as my commuter (e.g., 16t, road tires), but I know that if I ever get a dedicated road bike, I can swap everything out and make it more dirt-worthy. It's a tinkerer's bike, from the doohickey to the thermobob to trying to coax some more ponies out of the engine. It's made for people who look at a bike as never finished.

[@sammyscrap]

If you have experience riding smaller bikes off road the KLR is a nice bike to step up to. My advice to anyone who's never ridden dirt though would be to start with something smaller and lighter. Like you said in the video, you can always ride it for a season and sell it before moving up to something bigger. There are just so many fundamentals and enduro techniques that are much easier to learn on lighter, shorter bikes.

[@moriver1]

If your not short and have some strength it gets no better thsn a KLR to start out. They will no everything! I ride a bunch in Missouri but in the last year have done the Alpine Loop and Moab. I ride with two guys, one Africa Twin and a KTM 1190 Aventure R. For normal riding I am right beside them. keeping in mind "normal" for me includes Slick Rock, Fins and Things and Hells Revenge. The KLR is my tool of choice and its getting ready for Moab as we speak.

[@upstatebassing3437]

I'm actually going to buy one of these today! My only bike experience is when I took the course on a cheapo 250

[@livelongexploreoften6163]

Same here. Going from a cheap China 250 to a KLR 650 soon.

[@stevegoyette4785]

KLR was my first Dual Sport. Loved it...definitely a gateway drug!!!

[@cakeshoe]

Another great video....and nice drone work, too :) I'm not disagreeing with you, Mr. Everide, or anyone else for that matter, but I have always considered a 'beginner' to be someone who is still learning how to ride and control a motorcycle. Therefore, in my humble opinion, I would always recommend a bike of around 250cc or less to be ideal for beginners. Easier to control, easier to pick up, can often be cheaper and a bit easier to maintain, etc. And that's just for road riding! If someone wants to get into off-road riding, then it is their own personal riding skill and confidence that they should work on (not necessarily the bike that they should be upgrading). In an ideal world, learning how to balance and go dead slow on a trials bike would give any rider a huge head-start in understanding the fundamentals. Then they could transfer those skills onto a slightly bigger bike before moving onto the weight and power of, what I call, an "intermediate" bike like a KLR, DR650, etc. Having said all that, I admit that the learning curve I described is "ideal" and most people just want a quick fix, plug & play, instantaneous satisfaction (or they lack the time and money, of course). Yet, I wonder how many ADV riders who ride big bikes could actually handle a tiny trials bike well (not 'expertly', but just well). Maybe that's something for you to consider while the bumtato recovery is on-going..... I mean: there isn't even a seat to sit down on with a trials bike, right?

[@osimnod]

Another excellent response, like from "And Bro" above. I'm one who has limited time to ride (Sunday only) and had to quickly recognize my lack of off-road skills despite 10 years of street riding. Served myself a slice of humble pie, found a 1986 Honda TLR 200 vintage trials bike and it is a hoot. Crawling at idle in 1st gear, doing figure-8s, learning counter-balancing have helped me gain much confidence for a DR 350 and 640 ADV upgrade on trail riding.

[@jbodden6977]

bikes never make mistakes. it is always pilot error.

[@dirkevans4531]

Hey Tyler, really appreciate your video’s . When you talk about value, “first” bikes, etc. I felt like I needed to add a comment. After 35 years of not riding while raising a family (last bike was a Kawasaki ‘74 H1 500 Mach III), and moving around, after a lot of research (including watching several eveRide ADV videos) I jumped back in with an ‘09 KLR 650. The points you make in this video and others, as well as those who have commented below are all reasons I bought a KLR. It took a lot of looking but I found one with 2,995 miles on it and a bunch of mods: Schnitz 685 big bore kit, Thermobob and Doohicky & spring done, racks and a pr. of aluminum panniers, trunk, LED flashing brakelight, FMF extended folding shifter, USB port, heated seat and grips, bigger windscreen with PIAA 35w driving lights, FMF Power Bomb header and performance muffler, FMF carb jet to match, Happy Trails dash, Motech crash guards, rear brake master cylinder guard, handlebar risers and foot pegs, JNS Skid plate and radiator guard, front & back braided brake lines, LED headlight, rear suspension raising link (a nice bonus- I’m 6’3”), headlight guard, center stand, 16/43 tooth gearing mods, KLX450 front fender, and Superbrace fork brace, with a folder containing all receipts and manuals... at $3600. I state all this to confirm what you say in the video - the bikes and deals can be found and there are a lot of tried and true mod setups. Then I began learning to ride it (street is easy) with the intention of riding some of Southern Utah, several of the BDR trails, the Continental Divide Trail and Trans America Trail with my sons - 25 & 36, before too many more birthday’s add up. I’ve been down with it several times in deeper sand and rougher trails than I thought I’d be getting into (Ocotillo Wells is close to where I live in San Diego) so soon. The bike as you describe is a tank that took it all in stride, power-thumpering it on through and was ready for more. Undoubtedly it is a heavier bike and picking it up is a bit challenging (Bret from Motek has a great video on single person uprighting a heavy bike). Nonetheless, this bike will take anything thrown at it and does well on & off road like the Timex of motorcycles. There are lighter smaller bikes but I am very pleased with this KLR. They are a workhorse that won’t stop and is easy to work on. If it does act up briefly, it is only briefly while the almost always obvious is fixed. Again, enjoy the video’s Tyler and hope to run across each other someday while out riding.

[@motomookie8032]

Great video!! The selling point for me was the seat and the tank. Soooo comfortable ☺️☺️ and I can ride for miles and miles...plus I do all the work myself just not the valves 🤗

[@CaliforniaDualSportRiders]

It seems to me that the KLR serves it's purpose as a beginner bike because it's a great in-between for those that will eventually decide on going to a heavier, more expensive ADV bike or to a lighter weight dual sport/ enduro... it's a good jumping off point to decide what type of adventure you like most! Mine was my first bike that could go off-road and I have very fond memories of it!

[@wangchung8771]

Where are these trails???? I live in Las Vegas and would love to check them out.

[@ChezSheila]

Okay... 5'9" female here. The KLR650 is my first bike and it was a brutal cage match for about 2K miles even after I lowered it 2 inches. Then something clicked and we began to become friends. At 4K miles I was pretty much in charge - on pavement. I ride in Mexico a lot and my KLR is great for getting me to Ensenada from San Diego and I am now easing into well-worn dirt roads in Mexican wine country. Truth be told I would really prefer a much lighter bike to do the kind of riding that most of these videos are showing but after taming this beast I feel like a lighter bike would be a cake walk.

[@offroadvehiclelover]

ChezSheila so you "tamed" the "beast" i want to see some knee knockers, arm drag, sit down, both feet on the seat wheelies.

[@anthonybaiocchi3028]

ChezSheila if you can handle an extra inch in height and are looking for an upgrade try getting a chance to ride an XR650R for a day. They are taller but much lighter and although they are kick start they are actually really easy to kick over. Check out the hype about the BRP's, it's all true.

[@TeflonTrout]

Hi! The suspension concerns you mentioned aren't that hard or expensive to fix. Progressive suspension makes a fantastic spring set for the front forks that costs about $85. It took me an hour to install working very slowly, but was a very, very easy job. It's easily the best bang-for-buck upgrade on the KLR, it solved nearly every suspension related complaint I had. As always, great video, and man- what a great use of the drone!

[@papag7370]

I watched hours of videos, spent hours in shops asking questions and sitting on bikes before I bought a KLR as my first bike. Your video on "Does size matter?" Helped put me over the edge. Love your honest reviews! I am 6'4" and pushing a pretty heavy weight. Your video saved me from buying a Chinese 250 bike the dealer was pushing for a beginner bike!

[@seanchamp2774]

Great to see this commentary … and these beautiful trails. Hi from the San Joaquin Valley. As a new rider, imo Robert Simmons' Paying it Forward videos are proving to be really helpful towards handling the KLR, in the low end of rate-of-travel. My KLR is a 2016, arrived with an aftermarket skid plate, stock otherwise. Looking at putting a new throttle pulley on it, hopefully that'll help with keeping it managed down in first and second gears, from a stop and so on. Was looking for videos about how other riders handle the KLR, definitely found this here. Health, all!

[@outdoorsnomad]

Well said. I'm 5'6 and manage mine at stock height.

[@byronlangerman4468]

I love mine, and coming from a bike that weighs 200 lbs more it feels great! Got a sweet deal for a 1999 with 10,409 miles on it for $1500 with only a broken kickstand sensor. Not much offroad around me, but there are cities and abandoned lots/buildings and riding it there is a lot of fun. I plan on keeping it till the engine dies, and then, maybe, convert it over to electric. Your videos also set my decision in stone to get the KLR that I have now, thanks for that.

[@kurtanderson7339]

thanks for the great unbiased review. as a former KLR owner and current Versys 650 owner, I couldn't agree with you more. my KLR had 123k when I sold it. I wish I would have picked a better road bike after awhile, but it really can do anything.

[@bakerzach17]

Great input, very helpful in my research. been researching the KLR650 for a few weeks now, definitely leaning towards getting one. Thanks for the videos!

[@MrPepper312]

And it's so dang comfortable on long road trips.

[@ToriMoto]

Good video Tyler. I had a KLR250 when I was a teenager. I abused that bike and loved that bike. I didn't know anything about bike maintenance back in those days. I took it everywhere. Getting back into riding a few years ago, I thought bigger would be better, so I opted for a 650cc also. It was a wonderful bike in many ways, but also very limiting. I couldn't tackle the terrain I wanted to with confidence. I found moving from a heavy bike to a lighter bike a great move. I'm now riding a Beta 300RR and it isn't intimidating at all, I can pick it up all day with ease, and the weight doesn't get me into trouble on technical riding like the 650 used to. Your points are good ones re : cost/ease of maintenance/parts etc. But, for new riders to the sport I'd still recommend they learn on a much lighter machine and get their skills up. They can then decide if they want to move on to heavier 'adventure pigs' or keep riding lighter enduro/DS machines. I realize it's all a personal journey, and I commend you for your informative videos. Cheers ;)

[@temucanox9964]

i started on a klr just like the one on the video. and if your thinking about getting one. do it. won't regret it. he is right about the height too.very nice video

[@-AZ.TRAC-]

I am a 17ur old dude and the 2004 old 650 was perfect in my opinion. I love it! Definitely kind of an acquired taste

[@ADVF800GS]

I am a true lover of the KLR, I had a 99 1st gen that I sold an I hated myself for it and couldn’t stop thinking of how versatile it was, sure they are not super fast on the highway but even in my truck I do t normally drive over 70-75 just because I’m not in a hurry and on a bike especially an adventure bike I believe it’s about the ride and enjoying the freedom and I’m definitely not in a hurry, I recently bought a 2nd gen 09 KLR and absolutely love my bike, regeared from a 43 tooth rear sprocket to a 38 tooth now at 75 I’m at 4500rpm and it feels great, your videos of the KLR are great, please keep making more.

[@decentdad2334]

Before last summer, I had never owned a motorcycle. Wanted to get one to ride with my son. Didn't have a dog in the brand fight, but a friend told me about the KLR. Watched a bunch of videos (thanks eveRide), and decided to get a 2006 KLR. I love it, and it has been a blast to learn on. My son also watched some video's and got a V-strom 650 - also a great bike. Between the two, I think the KLR is a better starter bike. I'm 5'8", 41, and, according to my Dr, fatter than I should be. For me, the KLR has been exactly what I needed for busting around Iron County, and am even planning a S.E. Utah trip next month. Thanks for the videos man, and for pushing me over the edge, and onto my first KLR.

[@MarylandWearAndCarry]

Nobody ever mentions the TW200 as a decent beginner dual sport. It was the only bike my wife was comfortable standing over so thats what we got. Great utilitarian bike with a suspension that is easy to understand and setup even though it doesn't offer great travel. If the Jeep Wrangler had a baby it would be a TW200. Excellent starter bike!

[@xCRO3x]

david chilton both tw200 and xt250 are great starter bikes. Just keep them for fun when it is time to move up.

[@MarylandWearAndCarry]

Exactly, and leaves you with an inexpensive loaner bike that won't have you teary eyed when a buddy lays it down. haha

[@MarylandWearAndCarry]

I agree and would choose the same two steeds if income was disposable and my stable had room for two. However in my opinion a four stroke thumper's a four stroke thumper, a pig's a pig and cheap dual sports aren't all created equal nor do they all make the best beginner bike. Us poor folk usually make do with what we can afford and enjoy it though. Respect

[@MarylandWearAndCarry]

Heat stoke is real and pigs don't sweat. Have fun pickin up those KLR's boys and girls.

[@xCRO3x]

david chilton Thts why deadlifts were invented. Ha

[@neilgerber7216]

Sold my H-D fatboy(i owned for 21 years) bought a KLR and love it ! Takes me back to my youth.

[@Heartlanddualsport]

I think it is like anything, there is so may shapes and sizes in the ADV community, I was super pleased with how well the KLR was as a first bike for my cousin. I taught him how to ride on it and in a riding season, he went from someone who didn't even know what the friction zone was to a rider who was riding on the K-Trail, a pretty advanced trail for a newby. It was a great bike for him to learn on and was good to go even though he was so new. I agree, it is an extremely easy to work on and the parts are cheap if you need to add some or replace some as a new rider often will which is another huge perk on the newby. Thanks again for sharing and I hope you have a blessed week. Yes sir, they are so cheap, I will end up with another on in the garage, i sold my last one because it was clean enough someone wanted it worse than me, so I will get another one sometime as well.

[@SLFYSH]

Very solid judgements here. You make good arguments. Overall value and commonality of parts have to be at the top, -especially when you don't have unlimited funds or are just starting out, --and don't want to be 10K deep to learn to crash before you know what you want.

[@burneraccounthandle]

got a klr as my first bike, wishing i got a drz or something similar. this thing is just so damn heavy

[@coldee785]

I'm watching this after putting my KLR away from this seasons first ride...to the car wash lol. I spent the last month, and $500 CAD on re-springing the rear and front. I'm not going to say it was easy, but with a little patience. And a few tools, I did everything myself save recharging the nitrogen in the rear shock. The Race Tech website is an indispensable resource along with KZbin. The OEM spring is for a 160lb rider. So re-springing it to handle a 230lb (with gear) rider has transformed it into an entirely new beast. You can't make it lighter, but you can make it handle better! I'm open to any questions any KLR rider has, and I cannot recommend this upgrade enough. It's no question worth the time and money. Let me point you in the right direction to get it done!

[@ricesutliff]

I'm crazy about my KLR. I just added Tusk panniers, encouraged by the great review I saw HERE!!! We're planning a trip on the Nevada BDR in early June. Dig it!

[@toobisgoobis7753]

A 2001 KLR Gen 1 was my first bike ever. Got it right after licensing. Pretty much jumped head first into solo adventure riding. Of course I spilled it a couple times on some fire roads at low speeds in the beginning. Learned a lot of hard and sometimes exhausting memorable lessons from its disadvantages and capabilities. Three years and thousands of miles later and I feel extremely capable off/on road, continue to surprise myself of what it's capable of. It has taken me to every place I've wanted it to go. Long distance road trips, gnarly abandoned forest roads, old trails, places highly unreachable by my 4wd. I don't know if it was the best choice of first bike, and honestly don't care much at this point, I just adapted to it well. If I could go back in time, I wouldn't change a thing.

[@markmazzella5222]

I have to admit that a KLR is at the bottom of my list, but my list is very short. I've been a XR and DR (650) guy forever but am looking for a trail bike for ride into the grand canyon this spring and out here in SOCAL the inventory on used dual sports is very minimal. Have seen some KLR's and have been hesitant but seeing you guys tear up some dirt on them i may just give one a try.Or i'll have to spend some dollars on a new one which i do not want to do (or trade one of my street bikes) So thanks for the vid it had some great info!!

[@bob.jacobsen360]

Hi Erveride. Have you had the opportunity to try the Husqvarna 701enduro? What's your thought on the bike as an ADV?

[@tfcyclist]

I ride a 690 enduro and it's the bomb. I was planning to get a KLR but I'm a more experienced rider and a big guy and the KLR's power was way too low for me. But if budget is an issue, a KLR is fantastic and would take me to the same places.

[@jessaphillips2846]

aren't the 701 enduro and 690 enduro the same bike basically? I know they're both ktm/husky products and use the same engine, I just don't remember if they're mechanically identical or just use the same engine

[@DearMajesty]

it's largely the same as the 690, no? He reviewed the 690, but it was clearly a 1st gen, which was riddled with endless issues and you should NOT consider ever owning.

[@ZSharkPH]

I went from a KLR 650 to a KTM 690. It was a great decision for me. About 100lbs less and double the horse. A lot more money though. It really comes down to what kind of riding you do. I feel the 690 can get a bit heavy at times off road even though it weighs a lot less than the KLR. . But I'm setting it up for a long distance adventure bike. So thats why I have a light weight 2 stroke for gnarly stuff.

[@paulsallfire8]

Bought a brand new 2016 KLR one year and 8500 miles ago as my first motorcycle. The size was definitely intimidating at first as I'm a 5'9 and 160 lb. male with no 2 wheel experience but I didn't have to do any mods to seat height or suspension to figure it out on and offroad. I think a lot of the negative stances on the bike comes from what you were touching on in the last vid about the bike "stretching itself too thin," but that for me is what sold me on this bike. 3 months into owning the KLR I sold my beater truck as I was spending far too much on insurance and gas and occasional repairs, and have since been using the KLR for everything that I used to use my truck for. This includes 80 mile round trip commutes to San Diego for work to 2up trips to the mountains or desert trails with my girlfriend, and I soon plan on heading up the west coast to Alaska on her. Absolutely in love with this 35 hp old school dirt-nasty reliable thumper. If I had the money I would've bought a WR for the trails, a truck to carry the WR with, and an Africa Twin for 2 up trips but California believes EMTs should be payed less than pizza delivery drivers (Believe me i've had both jobs here) and consequently like many other KLR riders, I ride one out of monetary desperation for one vehicle that can do anything and everything.

[@edrodrigo4035]

I learned how to off road on a brand new 2013 Klr. I am 5'5" and 145 lbs. I did install Cogent dynamics shocks and it is heavily modified. I had no clue about mechanics and with the help of KZbin and the service manual, I've done Do hicky, valve clearance, carb jetting etc, etc. This bike has taken a beating and keeps on going. Love my Klr

[@shannonscott5709]

I loved my gen 1 KLR, I'm not a fan of the newer version as it looks bulbous to me. I much prefer the teal, purple, and puke blue colors of the early 90's KLRs. Your Mavic Pro (drone) work is REALLY getting great, you've always been good but you are really getting excellent with it. Get that FAA part 107 certification and you could do side work as pro drone guy.

[@urbanprowler]

Spot on with the advice! So difficult to pick the right bike first time out, let alone a dual sport one. I went mad and got a ktm 690 enduro a few years ago. I'm a couple of inches taller than you and found that a tall bike which put me out of my comfort zone when starting out. even now it catches me out.

[@oneblackdogrides]

Thanks for super honest & thoughtful reviews. No, I didn't find it a great bike to (re)learn to ride on - but I'm 5'7" with short legs and am a bit of a Nervous Nelly at times. I started with adjustable lowering links and slowly raised it up & cut down the seat as I got more experienced. Once it got it's first scratches the next million didn't matter, nor does the fibreglass holding the side panels together, or the glue & aluminium with pop-rivets holding the front cowl together. 10 years on it still goes well for what it is, and that suits me fine.

[@MrAusadventure]

KLR, DR650, DRZ, you can't go too wrong I reckon. Short riders are always going to be disadvantaged on off road bikes, no matter what the bike. The thing is, in terms of adventure riding, there is no perfect bike. There is always a weigh off in that ever confusing balance between dirt and bitumen. Great well though out video as usual mate.

[@flywire76]

Great vid. I’m currently trying to decide between adv or dual sport for mix of two up road and light off road trips.

[@realcolbyadams]

Im 6'0" 250 lbs. and never owned anything bigger than a 450, now that I'm in my 40's and want a dual sport on/off road bike what do you recommend ?

[@realcolbyadams]

I bought a 2006 KLR and Love it !!! #rideon #everide

[@dstubby82]

DRZ400 is also an excellent choice. :)

[@DarkDove3]

5'6" Male 140Lbs, and I rode a Suzuki DL650, 33" was too high for me as a beginner. But I wanted one. And first thing I did after buying the sucker used from a dealer was strap on crash bars. Because I dropped it not 45 minutes after that...and an hour after that, and 10 minutes after that. They were all doing things I probably should have at the time, trying to walk it backwards while turning, trying to pull out from a stop sign like a car (super slowly), etc. Boy did I love the thing. Tired myself picking it up time and time again, even on the pavement. I put a lowering link in, dropping it an inch of height, and at 32", I could find it more reasonable to operate. However, I still feel its not for me. This year has been the year of smaller displacement bikes and I feel like the Kawasaki Versys x300 is going to be a fantastic bike and I can't wait to see the market for it grow. Its smaller in height, larger in fuel capacity, and has a larger bore size to most of its competitors. I think its exactly what smaller than 5'10" people really need to get the hang of riding these dual/ADV bikes, while still being priced reasonable and allowing a lot of fun out and around.

[@690ADV]

awesome, can't wait for the next vid! keep them going.

[@EightUp000]

I dropped mine at a stop sign like last week 💀

[@sergiogomez7795]

Is heavy??

[@Ba-Lak-Ee]

@@sergiogomez7795 432 lb wet weight.

[@vadimstolyar711]

I love your videos man! Thanks for great job. I just got mine 2017 KLR and i love it! Your videos helped a lot on my decision. Coming from Urals and Yamaha XT 250 this is the best bike i ever had so far. Too bad i live in Chicago:(. But looking forward to taking it across country! Thanks again enjoyed every video you posted. Maxim

[@beejaytee]

Can we see a dualsport/adv camping on a budget vid? How much space you need for XYZ items for 1-4 days, 5-10 days and 10+. Stuff for minimalist/lightweight dualsport vs bid adv. Heal up and get out there. 😎

[@samuelhearne8488]

Might be because I am 6'2" but I find the KLR perfect for my height. Not attacking your point just tossing that out there for those over 6 foot.

[@grizzlyboy7473]

Samuel Hearne yea I’m 6’2 as well and around 170 pounds and I just turned 16 and I’ve been riding the klr for three months now, just got a a part called a doohickey I’ll be putting that in sometime this week 🤙🏼 (and yes there really is a part called the doohickey)

[@kojack635]

I'm 6'4" and I'm interested in buying one soon

[@grizzlyboy7473]

Kojack do it you won’t regret it it’s such a fun bike man they last forever too, legit tanks

[@Beeswax106]

I saw a video from fortnine "Killing the Un-Killable KLR650" and it just touched me. So when spring comes ill start licence course. The thing is, in certain my friends and the instructor would disagree with me getting this bike. Im totally new in motorcyles, i only drove cars and some scooters. I can afford one from the nineties.

[@Tactical2Wheels]

I'll never forget the feeling I had when i walked into the dealership and saw my klr for the first time. It was the first time that i had seen one up close and in person. I was really going off the advice of my uncle who is about my same size and also had a klr. I met the salesman and he pointed to where my bike was sitting and all I can remember is the feeling of "oh crap what have i gotten myself into". All in all I would buy the bike again even knowing what I know now. I love it to death and have even made some klr-ista worthy farkles out of junk in the garage.

[@LukasEddy96]

I learned to ride street and off-road on my '87 KLR. Wasn't necessarily easy, but it made me appreciate the smaller bikes off road and respect the bigger ones like the 1200GS. Very very good for beginnings for just about every reason: torquey motor, readily available parts, reasonable capability for all sorts of riding, plentiful online resources, endless upgrades to keep the projects going, etc etc

[@taxus750]

I got here by way of a couple of other vids about off road bikes and novices and what have you. I've done a lot (and I mean a LOT) of road riding and a small amount off-road, so take this with as much salt as you need. But you are right about one thing - there are plenty of times when being on a bike with some weight in it helps an awful lot. Assuming the mass is down low, a heavier bike will track better than a flyweight, will ride bumps and weird cambers better, and will be a lot less fidgety (and thus less stressful). Yes, a heavier bike will be an absolute pig to lift when you inevitably drop it, but its benefits outweigh the occasional struggle. No, I am **not** recommending everyone go out and buy an R1200GS, far from it - just get something that you can handle that has a bit of mass to it that won't fall over the moment a slight breeze turns up.

[@SEPU03]

Hi EVERRIDE Regards to the KLR beginner bike maybe some of those beginners should be looking at a smaller bike like the new 2017 versus X300 I think it's a small bike I'd like to see more reviews on it think you could do an infant intense review Offroad with off-road tires thanks I appreciate what you do for the community of the Internet and KZbin keep up the good work look forward to seeing a review on this bike in a real off-road Sonero use

[@DudeMeToo]

I loved my KLR, but found riding it solo in northern Utah on steep grades and uneven terrain going up and down the back country where I rode was too difficult the few times my bike tipped over. I was never in an idea place to get the bike up and use the "techniques" for lifting such a heavy bike. I eventually succumbed that I needed to get a lighter dual sport bike or seriously stop riding my bike in the back country and take on more tamed roads....which would defeat the purpose of having a dual sport.. so I sold and got something lighter.

[@ericstokes6280]

I'm 6'3" 280, and can leg press more than double the weight of this bike, I've been extremely happy with it so far, but I could see how shorter, weaker riders could have an issue with this bike. I actually bought the bike because the biggest complaint with it is how tall and heavy it is, thank you for the content, and i hope you get over your surgery soon so you can get back out there.

[@barrykery1175]

Good video. Very informative. I've been riding motorcycles for over 53 years. I've ridden street and dirt. I am 5 feet 9-1/2". What kept me from buying a KLR 650 was the height. It's just too high for me. Stopping at a traffic light, on the street, in the rain with a passenger on the back and not being able to put both my feet on the ground is just too dangerous for me. I need to come close to flat footing a bike with passenger when I stop. Tip Toes at a light just does not cut it. For its price, I think the KLR 650 is one of the best adventure bikes on the market. Look at the capacity of the fuel tank, "Unreal !" Barry

[@johnsapi4146]

I have a KLR650 2011. It's been a nice and cheap bike. I rode from Calgary to Carmel by the Sea and Moab. I it was a nice bike riding White Rim Trail, as well I-15. Cheap, versatile. No Doohickey issues yet, now with 13.000 Miles. I totally agree with what you said. Cheers

[@tomvana4270]

Original owner of a 2005 with 50,000 mi. Still have the original dohicky but I adjust it with a torque wrench every oil change. Make sure you keep you shims in spec or you will burn valves. Shes terrible in sand and mud but pulls her weight on the highway. Overall can't complain it gets me wherever I want to go.

[@Turco949]

3:15 First time seeing that "camo" mod for the KLR...very realistic indeed!

[@poohgeorge706]

Do you have an opinion about the Honda crf250 rally. I've owned sportbikes but want to get into adv riding and value your opinion.

[@PRTEVYBMW]

Super True my Brother! Great review and to the point:) Cheers;)

[@abswa]

I agree with what you said. I have a 2009 and it has been used and abused like a rented mule. Having said that it only failed twice on me in 8 yrs. The exploded OEM doohickey wrecked my engine about 4 miles from Nowhere, MT (it's a KLR688 now) and the rear subframe broke after riding some questionable single track. Over the years I did spend however the amount I paid for it in upgrades and farkles. Be it a full motor rebuilt from intake to exhaust (wheelies now are as easy as twisting the throttle) custom suspension ( I'm 5.11 and 245lbs), upgraded brakes, 3 sets of engine guards and on and on and on. I love the bike and I would do it all over again, BUT overall I would however say it's a mediocre beginners bike. There are way better choices out there to start in the ADV circus (WR250r 👍 or a DRZ400👍👍) and LEARN to ride and be confident doing so. Confidence = fun.

[@osimnod]

Totally agree with your assessment and recommendations. Rider size matters some, but gaining experience in the unfamiliar arena of dirt / gravel / sand / mud / rocks, etc. makes all the difference in deciding to advance or pack it in and stay on the street. What good is a garage queen other than bragging rights at the local coffee shop?

[@Mrhilljack]

I had a klr in 97 and then a brand new klx650 in 98.. klx was amazing 48 hp but they overheated badly and burned valves. So I traded it off for a 99 xr400 after only a couple of months. My buddys called the klx the goat.. but they were both kinda heavy bikes... the klr very heavy for radical offroad hill climbing. On normal level 2-5 trails was ok for experienced riders.. my opinion if you tour a bit with only mild offroad ventures the klr is decent & dependable.. But it weighs ever bit as much as the honda transalp.. I've got the xr650l with everything possible removed except for the kickstand. Every weight removing mod possible.. and now a 17 inch cush drive rear wheel from a 99 suzuki dr650.. that helped a whole lot. Now I'm pretty happy with it. Still not as light as your average run if the mill drz400e. And a bit less hp.. But for someone that weighs over 220 & can throw it around. . It's perfect...

[@ajwuthrich1084]

Where was this filmed? I want to ride those trails!

[@jaredpace4434]

I have a 2005 KLR and I’ve been just wrenching on the thing since I’ve gotten it.(Which was in May) I’ve just felt really discouraged about it. Don’t get me wrong it’s a fun bike. I modified the petcock to a manual. But it flooded the engine and I’m just stuck now. My fathers friend said to adjust the float. But I’d rather get responses from KLR riders. I appreciate if you can help me.

[@neemguy81]

It was my first, and I want to go back from the Versys 1000 to the KLR.

[@fortheloveofknobs]

KLRs are excellent beginner bikes for folks that can handle the seat height! Very reliable, super simple, and cheap to own! Loved mine before I switched to a DR650. :) Love the chug!

[@bobsullivan5714]

My "starter bike" was a 1964 Honda 90. It had leading link front suspension, pressed metal forks and frame, weighed 176 lbs. and made, theoretically, 7 HP. It had a top speed that was way faster than I could run. I thrashed, bashed, mashed and crashed that bike all the time. It thrashed, bashed, mashed and crashed me right back. We got along fine. I was 14 and the Honda was 2 when we met. My second bike was a Harley XLCH with straight pipes and a magneto. The thing was a bitch to kick start and a butt-numbing vibrator to ride....But when you cracked the throttle, it was enough to make a blind man see! I loved it! I have owned 4 Harleys, a BMW RT1150 and more 'ricers' than I can count......................The KLR IS MY FAVORITE, no contest. It is the pure essential motorcycle.

[@ridethroughlifertl]

5:05 I looped my '08 in Idaho this past summer. Time to (finally) get new handlebars. Doing the EM BBK is also on the list too. I burnt up the rings, so I'm watching KLR videos to calm my restless nerve.

[@BIOHAZARDCURE]

Man, I want a dual sport soooooooooo baaaaaad. I'm riding one in my MSF course and it's so much fun.

[@JoshSinnott97]

That last sentence.. thank you I've been weighing up a crf300 rally or a klr650 for the longest time. I'm a beginner but my gut is telling me to go the crf purely for the weight. The last thing I want is a bike that's too heavy that stops me getting into the sport It's a very tough choice though

[@Chefbudtaylorfit]

Great video. Well said, fair and even. Nice Work.

[@ryangotsch3670]

LOVE my 2018 klr!!!! Can’t imagine there’s a Better bike fir me!

[@erickdorsey556]

I just bought 2009 klr with 3303 miles, I grew up on sportbikes and still have mine, I will give my opinion, I wanted a duel sport bike, when I rode my brother's duel sport.

[@geraldscott7441]

I have close to 50,000 miles on KLRs, both first generations. The '08 and up looks heavier and more awkward. I had no problems riding these bikes, even though I could not flat foot them. I would sit at stoplights rocking the bike back and forth from one side to the other. I am 6' 240, with a 34" inseam. However, a much shorter person would not be safe on a KLR. No bike is safe if you can't touch the ground, at least tippy toe. I am now disabled, and cannot even get on a KLR without something to stand on, and my legs are likely not strong enough to support it at a stop.. I switched to an XT225 a few years ago, and am now having a hard time getting on and off that. I have to grab my pants leg with my right hand to help get my leg over the seat. Once on the bike, with the suspension compressed by my 240 pounds, I have no problem riding the bike. I can even flat foot it. But my problems getting on and off makes it unsafe. I realize that disabled riders are a special case, but short riders are not. If you are 5'3" with a 28" inseam, I strongly recommend against a KLR. In fact, most any dual sport is going to cause you problems getting on and off. I now mostly ride a Kawasaki Vulcan 750 with a 27" seat height. For off road riding, pretty much my only option is a quad. But even a small quad, like a Honda Recon 250, will not fit in the back of my shortbed S10 truck, which means a trailer which I don't have room for.

[@dacotahglenn5331]

I have a KLR and i love it, but i am also a 6'2 male. I think with the KLR and almost all bikes is its personal preference on whats good or good for beginners. Some people will love a bike while others absolutely hate it. THATS OK! Not every single person has to love the bike you ride or have the same opinion on whats a good motorcycle. I think any bike, as long as you can carry the weight is decent enough to begin riding. Obviously a GS-1200 or something might not be great to learn on. So if you love or hate the klr thats totally fine, but if someone has a different opinion don' t go bashing them. Just be happy they are out riding and enjoying ADVR too.

[@jessaphillips2846]

I want to see your opinion on the new Versys-X 300... I think it will probably encroach on KLR sales, even though it's a lot more complex and not as easy to fix on the trail side, it's lighter and more nimble, and the twin cylinder engine will likely combine with that to make it just as fast or close to the KLR.

[@DG-ss1gc]

I would not attach a spot messenger to the dash if that’s your main wilderness Osh!t device. In my experience when you need to call for help you bike is usually a few yard away, upside down...

[@rctjacksonville]

Great Vid,help me make up my mind to buy a KLR,thanks!

[@GPM116]

08 KLR w/3000 miles...looked new...$3500. Plenty of juice. Laid it on the lowside twice but the panniers got dented beat it out with my hammer loads plenty for a 3 day tour in Colorado Mountains. Im 6'2 190lbs. It is perfect and I can blast up my mountains no problems. All crash bars added.Skid plate...brush hand protectors. Twisting it up this season. I put 4000mi .. dirty miles on it last summer. Looks brand new...guy was afraid to go romping. I love it I can out ride and out run my budds Africa Twin.. With my savings of 11000$ I got a $4000 10,000mi one owner 06 'CBR 6004FI AND a Yamaha YZ 250 !$3200 to get moto crossed up. Im track dating the CBR and moto crossing the 250. And Im 57 years old. Retired early and i ride my but off all summer. Choco canyon next month 1 motogp race june 2 ..3..should be killer summer. Love my bikes KLR never let me down yet. Gonna add a Scrambler and a Cafe to my stable soon too. I live 4 miles from the track ... moto. And 2.2 road course and a_ Motocross track being built this Spring... almost done. Yahooo Gman in Colorado. 4 bikes for the price of one...yahoo

[@androgenesiss]

the 08 klr650 was my second motorcycle, i started with a nighthawk 250 and transitioned pretty well! def feels like an intermediate lvl moto, to me at least! i absolutely love it, it’s been so great in these gritty NYC streets

[@mattgotsskill]

im 6'0 , 240 lbs , would a klr 650 be a good fit for me? (also a new rider, my only experience is with mopeds)

[@goneballistic]

awesome analysis. klr650 was great first bike for me but I'm huge, strong and tall.I still love it. not everyone is the same though, is about matching the bike to your body and picking what fits and speaks to you best. for some a klr, for others a light 150 maybe. we're all different

[@streetgangtm]

I have a Harley Sportster, had a Buell 1125R, and have a 2015 KLR 650 that I have put over 20,000 miles on. The KLR was and is my foray into the world of dirt and adventure riding. I have seen places I would never be able to see on those bikes and ride my Harley so little these past 2 years that it barely starts because I don't live in a place where I can use a battery tender. The KLR is the least powerful bike I have owned yet it brings the most joy by far. I hang off and chase sport bikes up mountains scraping pegs, then go down dirt trails where they couldn't dream despite getting passed by people on much lighter dual sports. The I have more miles on the KLR than both of my other bikes combined because it's simple design, low maintenance, and versatility made me WANT to ride it more than I've ever rode anything before.

[@tfcyclist]

Love your stuff Tyler, I grew up riding bikes and I've always had access to one so I never lost too much of my of my skills but haven't had my own bike in a long time. You definitely inspired me to get back into it on a more consistent basis and I splurged for a 690 after riding a few bikes. Im hoping to hear your thoughts on the 690 or 701 one day. I know you've ridden with a 690 but don't know if you've gotten the chance to twist the throttle on one. Hope you get better soon so you can ride.

[@stellarpod]

Excellent synopsis, Tyler. Hope you're feeling better my friend. Steve

[@Al.j.Vasquez]

hey man, is the Versys x300 on the list for a review? i have reasonable to high expectations for dual purpose uses for that bike.

[@drett3013]

My love/hate relationship with my KLR started in ‘06 when I bought it new and I’m still riding it a couple times each month. It is the “pig”, it is too heavy, and I’m 5’7 so it’s way too tall, but I don’t think I’ll ever part with it do to some of the things you pointed out in this video.