Re:ZERO 2x8: "The Value of Life" // Reaction & Discussion

[@SmthPositive_]

Well, it appears Rem wasn’t the only one thinking that Subaru is looking like a snack

[@Lively-Shiro]

I hate u 😂😂😂

[@Greatcelestialkaligo]

Rem? do you mean Ram? I don't think she likes him in that way, she like's Roswaal.

[@SmthPositive_]

@@Greatcelestialkaligo ?

[@dankmemer6576]

​@@GreatcelestialkaligoBro wtf is u on abt? No one mentioned Roswaal

[@unknowntheviewer3449]

​@@dankmemer6576 Wdym? Ram likes Roswaal

[@Emilis2023]

I love that Ben declared Echidna best girl the moment he laid eyes on her and at the end of this episode he looks like he feels so validated.

[@evileyejozi]

the rabbit death was by far one of Subaru’s worst deaths. if i remember the web novel correctly, Subaru didn’t die immediately and could feel the rabbits bury themselves into every orifice he already had or holes the rabbits made.

[@TrinitytheApostle]

They also ate their way through his anus to get inside him....just to put that in your head

[@crystalesian]

if i remember correctly there's 1 creature that looks absolutely teriffying, resemblance a centaur that burnt Subaru alive, I believe the author also went for the crazy detail such as the skin peeling etc etc.

[@dokkino7105]

@@crystalesian Yeah, but if we're talking Arc 6, between that death and the "Crunch crunch" one (3 chapters before if I recall correctly), the second takes the lead

[@kallistikaleid]

Yeah, I checked out the written work, and that death scene is ABSOLUTELY nightmare fuel. Normally, one wouldn't mind so much, what with dying agter that, thus not remembering a damn thing, likely. Subaru though....he will bale able to joyfully recall bunnies eating his ass, literally, for the rest of his days. I may not sleep safely just after typing out those words, so I must imagine Subaru has to at least woken up screaming his head off from dreams a few times.

[@lucy5948]

@@crystalesian Too bad tho cause I think they removed this death in LN...

[@ethanbob3069]

I always thought Garfiel was really heartless here but now that I think about it he probably thinks Subaru is an archbishop of the witch's cult and therefore anyone fighting to protect him is a cultist and we saw how brutally we killed all the witch's cultists last season so like it kinda makes sense. Like in his mind he's killing a bunch of genocidal maniacs. To be honest this should be pretty obvious but I just never really thought that hard about his perspective here because of how cruel he was being. Also I love the comparison to how we met Rem and Ram!

[@tutterthemouse152]

he's only sure that subaru is a witch cultist. the villagers of arlam and everyone else who helps him out like ram, he doesn't consider witch cultists or maniacs. garfiel says subaru has a way with words that made him "deceive" everyone into trusting him. from here on it's season 2 spoiler territory: when garfiel goes beast mode, he doesn't have much self-control like frederica and relies on animal instinct fueled with his anger to turn a blind side to the murders he does to protect the sanctuary. he's never killed anyone with his own human hands because he's rather weak-willed and a big softie. he couldn't even kill otto before ram intervened and he went beast mode again. his first real kill was at the end against elsa.

[@v4ltzu739]

The WN seems to make it clear that Garf loses rational thought each time he transforms. I think he's avoiding feelings of remorse and responsibility by letting his tiger form do the killing. But you're right, he had to be suspicious of all these people on Subaru's side.

[@sasy11110]

@@tutterthemouse152 S2 SPOILERS: White Fox fucked up massively by making Garfiel’s tiger form capable of speech in ep 10. It effectively created a HUGE mischaracterization issue and defeated the whole point it was supposed to make thematically.

[@tutterthemouse152]

@@sasy11110 it's not like he's unable to think of his own. i think his form just makes him gradually lose his humanity. i don't actually remember if he spoke in the light novels while in the form, but he's capable of rational thought. it's because of his blind anger that he lost himself quicker in the loop where he murdered everyone.

[@sasy11110]

@@tutterthemouse152 I’m currently on arc 4, and tiger Garf is described multiple times as a mindless being driven purely by instinct. He never spoke a single line while transformed and I’m pretty sure this is the same for both LN and WN.

[@lucy5948]

8:43 At first, Otto push Subaru to kill him and the 2nd push is to save him...

[@lyssaearland618]

Never noticed this! Thank you for that insight 😮

[@MajorSmurf]

I see that garfiel didn't get his morning lasagne. Anyway those rabbits are something else. The horror of that scene is very good in the anime but in the books it's something else the detail it goes into might make MIA blush. From what I remember from the books the rabbits kept him alive as long as possible. Even after being blinded and his limbs devoured. They avoided his vital organs for as long as possible so he could still feel their nibbling fangs for a long time. They would enter through a place no-one wants to be entered by a man eating rabbit.

[@arkleuss]

must be monday

[@Eterrath]

>might make MiA blush If MiA were written as a novel then people would be puking their copies every 2 pages

[@senaji498]

it's rabbit hunting season, but the rabbits do the hunting

[@HaibaneRakka571]

I cried my eyes out during the end scene, I was already crying but I was holding it back a little until it cut to a black screen that said "The Value of Life" and the floodgates opened. It's worth checking out that one scene in the english dub on your own time, not to compare "sub vs dub" but just to appreciate how much Sean Chiplock and Anairis Quinones acted the absolute hell out of that moment. (also, you said Otto is the best, you're not wrong but we gotta mention the earth dragon Patrasche as one of the best girls in all of anime)

[@edwinseda897]

By the way, the novels go into way more detail about THAT scene. So if you’re curious, it’s on VOL. 11, chap. 4. page 197 for the light novel. I don’t know exactly when it starts on the web novel.

[@christhethinker6791]

"the novels go into more details than the anime" could be said about any episode lol, there's not much point in mentioning it

[@nathankeel6667]

Reading the scean gave me a nightmare fuck those rabbits

[@NozomuYume]

@@christhethinker6791 He's referring to the description of the bunnies burrowing into Subaru's anus.

[@dohalimilqarasdeldemenanci8483]

I don't think anyone wants to know what happens in details lol

[@koboi491]

@@dohalimilqarasdeldemenanci8483 I want to know the detail sir 😅

[@CozNothingIsForever]

I had depression for 10 years and I gotta say this anime healed parts of me that needed healing. It has that power.

[@Akashiko]

Hearing Subaru be able to scream everything he's wanted to is the most powerful feeling of catharsis I've experienced

[@erois6190]

Obligatory "he gained the qualification for a tea party because of his desparate search of the knowledge of why this happened to him" comment

[@mastername5373]

22:10 'He doesn't have magic' Sad Shamac noises.

[@hara9511]

One of the best episodes in Rezero.

[@Colp2]

It's an amazing episode, but I'd say EVERY remaining episode in part one is top tier... and then part two is even better, on average.

[@lyssaearland618]

The voice acting in the Return by Death confession is amazing. Everything about that party was amazing!

[@OmniscientlyMe]

Oh yay, it's rabbit season!

[@ben-san9677]

32:01 Only a few people can actually smell the Witch's scent/detect the miasma on Subaru, and the ones that can have been unique. Without getting into spoilers, here are some examples: Rem can, but she's a demon who has a history with the witch cultists (and for some reason, Ram doesn't share this ability) Beatrice can, but she's a spirit who apparently has connections to Betelgeuse and the gospels (and if Puck can smell it, he's never mentioned it before) -Garfiel can, but he's a powerful beast person who lives in the Sanctuary that has some sort of connection to Echidna (and his sister Frederica never mentioned being able to detect it)- *_Edit: I got this one wrong. See the comments below for a semi-spoilery correction._ Betelgeuse could, but he was an Archbishop of the Witch's Cult Whether Roswaal can or not is currently unknown, and no other major characters have indicated that they can detect it

[@Prushbinger]

Ram can smell the miasma, Garfiel can’t

[@ben-san9677]

@@Prushbinger Garfiel said he could smell it last episode when he captured Subaru: Garf: "Don't play dumb! There's miasma oozin' out of every pore in your body! You're a witch cultist! The smell's been stronger since you came outta the graveyard." Subaru: "You can smell... the witch's scent on me?" Garf: "Hah! That's a funny thing to call it! It just fits, don't it? 'The witch's scent'!"

[@chatoxchimix9124]

garfiel can't it"s something that the show doesn't say but that actually Ryuzu that can smell the witch's scentn then she tells garfiel about it

[@ben-san9677]

@@chatoxchimix9124 That actually makes way more sense. Thanks for clarifying. Was I also wrong about Ram not being able to smell it? @Prushbinger, I stand corrected. Sorry for doubting you.

[@chatoxchimix9124]

@ben-san9677 @Prushbinger ram can't smell, if i remember correctly and a event that append in an if story, tends to confirm this. without too much info if you going some day to read/listen this story. There is in this story another character that can smell the scent but we learn that she wasn't able do to it at birth, in the story with learn she was in the attack on the demon village, the one with ram and rem, and something append during this attack that allow her to smell the scent, so maybe the same thing append to Rem. it's in the if sloth story, the base of the story it "if Subaru choose to flee with Rem" at episode 18. Usually past event and char are canon in the if stories but where i'm now he still didn't encounter this character so still take this information with a pinch of salt

[@UncensoredScion]

And it's Christmas time too! Oh this is too perfect!

[@dakidjay8968]

Hey guys love your channels love you guys a bunch

[@ComradeArthur]

11:40 By fan consensus, that counts as Subaru's *worst* death in both seasons. I fully expect s3 to rise to the challenge.

[@megadeth8592]

if s3 has arc 6 it should top it

[@dokkino7105]

Hoho, we'll have the "Crunch crunch" death in the second part of s3 so yes it will be awesome

[@KimParkkinen]

Has s3 been confirmed? I do not remember seeing anything of the kind. 😱

[@what_is_my_name959]

​@@KimParkkinen season 3 was confirmed 8 month ago

[@TrinitytheApostle]

​@KimParkkinen a teaser trailer released a while back too I think

[@LloydRyannS]

don't forget that Petra made a snow rabbit in memory snow. guess what? tadaaa!

[@mrkncd]

"Hoshin was Banan's sunset." Alec Hoshin played a crucial role in the creation of the nation of Kararagi. He was involved in a regional conflict between Kararagi's human and demi-human populations and emerged victorious in the Battle of Banan, giving rise to the phrase 'Hoshin was Banan's sunset.' Anastasia Hoshin, a candidate for Lugunica's throne with the violet/purple hair and white clothing, shares the same last name "Hoshin". Although she's not a direct descendant of Alec Hoshin, she adopted the last name as a tribute, inspired by Alec Hoshin's legacy. Pretty fucking cool and hardcore lore stuff.

[@matheus.sfigueiredo]

True Future = The one that is reflected by world actions, you act different, the book changes Gospels are not true future because they do not change to account choices not made according to text, as shown in previous season when Betelgeuse's book did not had any mention of subaru, but if Betty saved him from Elsa according to the "Tome of Wisdom", her book accounted for his existence

[@yunfanji]

I am glad Ben noticed the thing that looked familiar at the end but also sad no connection was made.

[@flyingeagle3898]

first time catching an upload so early. congrats on getting threw another round of shock and suffering and into another round of Echidna revelations

[@Ebyruchan]

this ep traumatized me the first time i saw it, but the ending did give me some relief same as you both

[@lulute8]

Hoshin.... There is a character with that surname

[@keithdavy7346]

The rabbit death would have been the worst if I didn't know they cut the scene of him being melted to death.

[@lucy5948]

VA fact : Yusuke Kobayashi(Subaru's VA) on this scene 13:28. He cried everytime in the sad scene of this series... He's just like us fr

[@vincentprice713]

This is my favorite episode in the series.

[@jamesln5392]

I was waiting for you both to get to the bunny episode.... LoL

[@siginotmylastname3969]

What you should remember about Garfiel is 1) in his full transformation he chose to completely lose himself in instinct and after that point basically has no control and 2) several motivations lead him to choose that before he kills anyone. The reason for his behaviour isn't simple, that's why Subaru has no idea whether to treat him as an enemy because he seems to behave completely differently in every loop suggesting a LOT of different changes make him either support Subaru freeing them while showing sympathy for Emilia, or oppose them to the extent of losing control and killing so many people. So the reasons he gives for imprisoning Subaru are unreliable : if it's the witch scent, why did he only do this the third time around? Rem in arc 2 was ALWAYS suspicious of Subaru because of that but acted differently on it based on whether Subaru was also sneaking around and lying to them, watching the mansion etc. So there's a change on the third loop other than the scent!

[@poliax7066]

Yayyyyy new episode!

[@Darkness-vg1fy]

"Cute!" ----------------HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[@Bayard1503]

Yeah, this episode does make you appreciate Echidna a lot... luckily it doesn't last.

[@HaibaneRakka571]

Can't relate, Echidna is my Best Girl of the show

[@Bayard1503]

@@HaibaneRakka571 Have you seen the Greed route? That's kind of scary, 100 million deaths, he's basically her slave.

[@marecaelomiscere]

​@@HaibaneRakka571based, mommy Echidna best girl fr

[@jakeguillero9804]

@@HaibaneRakka571 You being a masochist and genshin player makes sense

[@lucy5948]

The Rabbits literally eat him inside and out. He didn't die until the rabbits reached his brain... Subaru would absolutely lost it if Echidna didn't invite him LOL

[@DXDragon38]

Echidna stole my heart this episode 😅

[@fallendown8828]

And she will lose it when she "confesses"

[@Zonca2]

That was her intention

[@darksamiri4304]

This episode is what made appreciate Echidna and cemented her as #2 best girl 😂

[@im7254]

so glad i looked up bunny scene reaction

[@nephtys369]

Oh boy. Don’t forget WHAT Echidna is.

[@siginotmylastname3969]

Oh and no everyone CAN'T tell Subaru smells like the witch otherwise he'd probably have gotten to the world and immediately been surrounded by a mob trying to kill him in town lol. Rem and Beatrice can smell it, Garfiel being able to was a new one and Subaru's VERY confused because he only heard that on the third loop! So far we have a small number of spirits and demihumans able to, and something you don't know is that the oni as a species were actually seen as a weapon against witches 400 years ago, detecting the miasma is apart of that. Ram actually can't even smell it.

[@DvdMvs]

this all could've been avoided if subaru had lasangna ready for garfiel

[@Cranell-se8to]

We love RABBITS 🐰🐇👯‍♀️

[@MrTimeattacker]

Ahh i see Anna has seen monty python and the holy Grail a person of culture indeed. 34:08 Only one Contract can exist between people, remember puck had to overwrite his contract to form one with emilia in frozen bond, and contracts in re:zero world have real physical ramifications and for spirits it can be matter of life or death..their whole life changes.........They usually form contract with only 1 person which they feel like have true connection with.....So what's why in royal selection everyone was surprised that a great spirit like puck made a contract in first place let alone with a half-elf. You might wanna go back and check ep 4 to see the exact line of dialogue :) it will make it clear. Although there can be only one contract, A person can have oath(with self like Frederica ),Contract(with another person) and covenant(with multiple people like the divine dragon has with royal family of lugunica) at the same time.

[@YellinInMyEar]

It's a GRRRReat eposde!

[@mrpanda908]

Fun fact: Subaru didn't die until the big rabbit ate his brain, he was conscious even while it ate his insides.

[@ShadowLotus612]

keep it up guys! Is there a place where we can suggest anime for you guys to react?

[@megadeth8592]

oh...just wait.

[@daltonyon]

Echidana.... ❤

[@saschawagner5167]

As far as Gospels and the book of Wisdom goes. Without geting into spoilers: The Webnovels goes into it a lots more and who actually can read what thogh given that the Light novel on wich in turn the Anime is based on it isnt clear if any of that is actuall fact in context of the story. If you into it give the WN a read unlike most it differs quite a bit while following the same overall story. For example Garf is not nearly portryed as anthing likable in the WN compared to the LN. Bunnys. As far as the Bunnys go its Subaru 2ed worst death (bit subjective as someone who has read only up to the end of arc 6). Yes Rems ordeal by Sloth was horible but the death was by Puck in the end so i wouldnt rate it as high. For the ones in the know worst: Tunnel in arc 6 on the way of the tower as far as worst goes....thogh i have to catch up to the LN to make sure that isnt a WN only event. ,-))). Ecidna know about return: felt like an Seson 1: Episode 18 moment (Rems speach) with the soundtrack ending diference reminding on ep 15 (upllifting after the bunnys in contrast to trying to work thogh whats hapening in ep 15 with rem and sloth)

[@melisdart]

echidna is grea.. no no no he got a point

[@anandpachpinde3125]

👍👍👍👍

[@troljynx9953]

Eyyyyyyyyyyy such an horrible episode !

[@zade8586]

bruh what

[@troljynx9953]

@@zade8586 In a gorey way, not quality wise, far from it

[@user-kh9jz3li7d]

Guys please watch My dress up darling. attempt 23

[@fraktaalimuoto]

Nice to see the Killer Rabbit of Caerbannog in action. 🩸🐇 😋

[@ben-san9677]

Will Subaru be able to find the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch?