RE ZERO v MUSHOKU TENSEI - An In Depth Comparison

[@NatalieXHunter]

You can buy the Mushoku Tensei Light Novels on Amazon in physical or digital formats - this is an affiliate link so I make a small commission if you shop for them using this link to volume 1 of the series - amzn.to/3m0WjuL And here's a link to get the Roxy Gets Serious spin-off manga: amzn.to/3IFZ7ap

[@OJSRT24565]

Like both series and looking forward to re-zero conclusion one day. On another note it's wild the MT 24 voulmes was written in 2 years. Definitely looking forward to the sequel series.

[@subtorren4928]

is there a sequel ?

[@michaeldmingo1525]

Jobless Redundancy and Oblige.

[@nguyendi92]

Damn. I didn’t know how fast MT got written. Some authors just “ built different” I guess. LOL

[@kaikiriya2761]

@@subtorren4928 the author once said that Mushoku Tensei was just the prequel for the story he really wants to write, so you can expect a sequel series in the future. For now though you can read redundancy, jobless oblige and old dragon's tale as it might contain some info on how the future sequel might go, as it essentially setups the future of the series lol.

[@RohanSinghal-ob7zu]

Yaa, I heard that the web novel of MT is finished, even though LN is still ongoing

[@sirspanker1905]

"What subaru was seeking was growth rather than redemption" I feel like you couldn't have put this any better. I've been trying to figure out how to best differentiate Subaru and Rudeus at their core but this nails it. I'm anime only for both shows but this feels very accurate despite me being barely through both stories.

[@hyperreality753]

I think it's a distinction without much difference to be honest. What is the underpinning of both seeking growth and seeking redemption if not wanting to go from sets of circumstances that are judged as undesirable or less desirable to ones judged as more desirable for yourself or those around you. Seeking growth is another way to communicate a desire for change without accentuating the undesirability you have participated, it's more implied. They ultimatley denote the same description just in differing ways.

[@James-ep2bx]

The magna opus comment brings to mind the original meanings of "masterpiece" and/or "masterwork" as both where originally used to denote a work where a crafts person proved they was skilled enough in their craft to be called a master of said craft Both RE:Zero and Jobless show their creators have

[@James-ep2bx]

Meant 'were' not 'was' Would have edited it, but editing removes reactions by channel owner

[@lucasvanwijngaarden670]

I've spent most of my free time this past month watching Mushoku Tensei content and discussing things in the comment section. This video absolutely made my day. I've seen some comparison videos before but most of them take the route of this one thing is better in MT than Re0 and vice versa. And none of those videos went as in depth as yours did either. Great video, I'm already looking forward to any future MT content.

[@NatalieXHunter]

Thank you! I'll be making a lot more videos about it - I'm still reading the side content so I'll probably make some stuff about that when I'm finished, as well as about the anime and main LN/WN story.

[@QuiksilverX7]

Both are amazing series with several strengths. I have a preference for Re Zero because It resonates more with me. Getting isekai, traveling to a new country, escaping to virtual or new world will not solve your issues, it just brings your problems to new place. In the world of Re Zero You can’t just power up or level up like a game to get what you want while ignoring your core issues and trauma. Every single time that Subaru makes a mistake he gets no pass and gets punished. Over and over until he learns from his mistake and grows as a person. That what I like about the series so much. It makes every win that Subaru gets well deserved and earned. Subaru might be “weak” in terms of raw power, but little by little he is getting stronger as a person. Which is what I consider “real strength.” Funny enough I consider Re Zero to be the “anti-isekai” Isekai anime. You can’t escape your problems no matter where you go, it will follow you until you acknowledged and face it.That is how you grow stronger and hopefully happier.

[@gdas4092]

Well anti isekai is better than a character getting super powers and level up like a Pokemon In short Subaru only has a checkpoint which gets saved later on, while other isekai characters gets more cheat codes

[@hesslo3336]

Yay another Natalie upload! I love listening to your voice and you always bring up interesting points, keep up the great work!

[@NatalieXHunter]

Yay, thank you!

[@TheReaIestOne]

I'm heavily baised towards Rezero but mushoku is definitely a goated anime. It's definitely in my top three Isekai alongwith Konosuba.🤔 And the only reason why there's a war between it's fandoms is because how good both the series are, nobody's gonna complain if someone said, "smartphone Isekai is better than Rezero" because he'd be a certified clown that no one would wanna pay attention to 🤣 but when it comes to these two, their fandoms feel threatened by the presence of the other one because they know they've got some good competition against each other. So I don't see a problem here, it'll make both the series want to be at their A game all the time.🤣

[@addidaswguy]

Shield Hero is definitely up there too, at least for me. Screw the people who say Isekai is trash, those are four epic ones

[@TheReaIestOne]

@@addidaswguy yeah. Shield hero's good too. I don't like SAO at all, I think it has given Isekai a bad reputation with its overpowered MC and his harem. I hope I'm not offending you if you like SAO. 😎👍 Btw, I liked cautious hero too, it was funny. 🤣

[@ordepnm792]

I think one key difference between the two stories is the metaphysical aspect. MT believes that if you take the most rotten person you can think of and give them a fresh start, some training wheels and a push in the right direction, they can turn their life around and become an upstanding human being. That is very much the underpinning assumption of the whole story and a very usual take when it comes to isekai stories (tough many of them were copying MT in this regard). Re:Zero, on the other hand, almost feels like a rebuttal to a story it technically precedes when it posits that giving someone with a rotten personality a fresh start and a push in the right direction is just the prelude to their vices taking over and leading them to the exact place they came from, like how Subaru leaves his truant life behind only to become a shut-in at the mansion in Arc 2. Tappei believes that only when you clear all the junk in your head through introspection and opening up to those around you can you actually become that upstanding human being. Before that, you can get as many redos as you wish, it won't save you in the long run. Neither stance is necessarily false, though I think Tappei's is a better message to the target audience. I think every social outcast have probably thought some variation of "being isekai'd would be pretty neat, I could start over and lead a more fullfiling life", that's why the genre is popular, but Tappei bring you back to reality by saying actually you'd probably crash and burn even quicker in an isekai world so instead of looking for fantasy to save you, start working on self betterment. It's not comforting, like the MT formula, but I think it's a good lesson to learn. That said, you made some interesting points I hadn't considered, particularly the part about family VS found family, so it was an interesting watch!

[@Tubbinater10]

I completely agree with this, i was trying to form a reason on why i slightly prefer RZ than MT, other than that i watched RZ first, and this is what i resonate the most with!

[@dragoncat5767]

@@Tubbinater10 re zero is psychology horror and tbh,i love horror, mindfuck series

[@whateverwhatever4476]

I was thinking of a good reason on why I preordered RZ message over MT even though I like both and you hit it right on the head

[@Raptor12213]

I personally have been more so Team Mushoku. I find the subjective 1st person of Mushoku a bit more interesting to read as we get a real unfiltered look into his thoughts and what makes Rudeus well Rudeus. Him being an absolutely disgusting and down right hypocritical person in many aspects early on was quite refreshing and a bold move by the author imho. As most authors are often too afraid to start with such an unlikeable protagonist due to it's innate risks (as we have seen especially with the anime adaptation). I think it was worth it though as it really makes his later development into the kind empathetic man deep inside all the more cathartic. Additionally due to the duality and the innate flaws of the characters as well as the consistent logic of the world Mushoku on the whole feels more grounded than Re;Zero to me which is something that is a huge personal preference in stories of even fictional nature. I also have a soft spot for family wholesomeness and drama so that also tips the scales a bit more and makes the emotional beats all the stronger for me because we see how much he has to lose. It just checked allot of personal boxes and despite being someone who often dislikes the vast majority of the Isekai genre I found myself loving Mushoku as a story.

[@NatalieXHunter]

Yeah, I agree all of those are good things, I'm just not so into the family wholesomeness stuff or emotional family scenes (I'm probably the only Re:Zero fan who found Subaru's trial of the past to be a bit boring in the WN, and wanted it to get back to Echidna and the plot a bit sooner haha!), and MT kind of needs to have a lot of that. It's probably just that I don't have a very big family myself (I'm an only child and my mom is dead, so my close family is literally just my dad) so I don't really relate to having those kinds of complicated or intense feelings around family as an adult, so I prefer to see stuff about friends and whatnot - totally a personal taste thing.

[@kirito-ud1qd]

@@NatalieXHunter yaaa, i agree i totally don't like the family thing because i am from India and we have too much of that here and the family wholesomeness can get pretty worse ik

[@rajvirmalhans2073]

@@NatalieXHunter I’m not sure where or How but your life sounds like an isekai premise or background somewhere 🤔

[@Raptor12213]

@@NatalieXHunterI have a similar background to yourself with my mother dying young and my father raising me as an only child. I think where I differentiate is that my extended family on both sides lived close by and was generally supportive and instrumental in raising me. So I still received a large familial connection in my life. And even though my Father is thankfully a much better person than Paul I can still see parallels and his character arc resonated with me because of it; especially when it came to Norn and him trying his best despite his very large flaws.

[@lg2m480]

@@NatalieXHunter I'm actually a very family oriented person, so totally different backgrounds, but I still thought his trial of the past a bit boring... Glad to find someone else. I've read the WN then the LN, and the thought of reading it all again annoyed me to no end the second time. It's interesting, and the anime episode was simply amazing, but when I've read the WN there was so much going on that I just wanted to go back to Echidna too.

[@spoich]

1h7min of incredibly well writen and well presented analysis. Personally, i'm a huge fan of how MT connects all his characters. I understand how it makes the world smaller, or erode the suspension of disbelief, but to me, the world was still so vast and immersive that it could afford a hit. On the flip side, it makes the characters so much more anchored in their world. Everyone has parents, old friends, maybe siblings, uncles, cousins, nephews, etc. They had a vibrant life before coming in the story and will have a vibrant life even after the story ends. It really plays into how each side characters feel like the protagonist of their own story..

[@cvxgaming6855]

I can't really compare these two. I find Mushoku Tensei to be more grounded to reality despite being a fantasy. The lore and world building are just really detailed, and the writing is so consistent that I find it really hard to criticize it. I like how Rezero depicts terror like when betelgeuse showed Subaru Rem's body being mangled and when Subaru's head got cut off while holding Rem's dead body and then the episode just ends like that. That gave me goosebumps. It was just executed so well.

[@christianboi7690]

Man, I love the world building of Re:zero and all of the mysteries in it are so fun to ruminate on. The anime is a bit more focused on the immediate plot though, so I guess it’s harder to get into the world. Also, they cut out a lot of the character conversations from the novel making the characters feel less nuanced because we don’t get to see a lot of the dialogue heavy scenes. It’s a little upsetting because good character building takes time, but I guess if they focus too heavy on the talking and don’t jump to the action scenes, then they won’t retain a large audience, I guess. Anyway, that’s why I prefer the novels, but I’m hoping that next season is better because it’s very action heavy. We won’t get to hear characters inner thought and rationalizations and get as much of a sense of who they are, but if they do it right with the directing (I think the Re:Zero director is pretty good.) and music then maybe they can convey the emotions and emotions of the characters well enough. I’ve felt really hesitant to get into Mushoku Tensai (no idea how to spell it) because I just hate fan service and inappropriate stuff and I also hate overpowered main characters generally. I remember I read the manga a few years before it came out and immediately he became insanely overpowered, arrogant, and lecherous, and I just don’t want to see that. A lot of people online seem head over heels for it though and it’s making me consider watching the anime, but even if he goes through a journey, that doesn’t make what they show in the manga (and anime probably) any more tenable. Maybe he does redeem himself, but I don’t want to be a part of the degeneracy just so I can see the progress. Re:Zero has its moments that I think are a little stupid and anime tropie, but nothing too stupid or inappropriate. You gotta take the bad with the good, but sometimes you just don’t want to jump into that pit. I’ll take the plunge though and watch the first two episodes to see if There’s gold underneath the crud they expect you to wade through and hopefully not enjoy. I’ve seen stuff like that in other anime and in a context that your supposed to enjoy it or something and I just hate it. I don’t know. Is it worth it? Are the scenes portrayed in a way that makes the audience rightfully uncomfortable with it or is it played for laughs? With my viewpoint clear, should I watch it?

[@Ragnell141]

It's a bit on my part, but a small correction regarding reincarnation in Bookworm: the MC did reincarnate as a baby in the new world. It's just her memories and "ego" from her previous life only came to her at the moment of her new self's death due to sickness. The burst of the now unlocked memories is what gave her enough willpower to not fully die (since her sickness is tied to magic and aggravated by a lack of will), and from then on her old world "ego" is what she identifies as, rather than the new "dead" one. That small and honestly unimportant comment aside, great video. I just had the urge to explain.

[@NatalieXHunter]

Ah, OK, I'm anime only on that series so I thought she just took over Main's body at age 5 or whatever it was when she died.

[@nguyendi92]

Wait, do later Bookworm chapters confirmed it? Since one of the biggest regret Maine had in the beginning is taking over the body of a dead child and insert herself into the family.

[@Ragnell141]

@@nguyendi92 the author confirmed it when asked. Urano does feel regret but that's because she doesn't identify as the original Myne and didn't know how to deal with her emotions when she first woke up.

[@max55436]

mt just blew me the way its done, having an mc whom we hate pretty bold n given an isekai where we r always given a likeable mc but mt goes different n i like it. the progress is so detailed in mt as if a masterpiece is on way.

[@WandererEris]

Within seconds of starting this video I thought "I really like that outfit" rather than paying attention, so I had to refocus.

[@NatalieXHunter]

Thank you! I change outfits for most videos and I'd been mainly wearing Halloween dresses the last week or so, but I thought for this one something less seasonal would be better!

[@KingLAO2964]

Awesome video as always. Stay healthy. Love your content. Keep up the good work! This video was really well made. I wish you a great day from Germany.

[@NatalieXHunter]

Thank you so much! Have a good day too (from Italy so it's lunchtime for both of us rn)

[@KingLAO2964]

@@NatalieXHunter heh

[@RiffRaff243]

I've been watching your videos for about a year, and one of my reasons for watching is your choice in background music. It always creates a chill atmosphere that complements your discussions. The track that starts at 1:05:12 is one that I especially adore. What is the name of this track? On the topic of your video: This comparison does a great job at comparing the differences while highlighting the strengths of both series in telling character-driven stories in this genre. You have me interested in getting back into MT.

[@NatalieXHunter]

That one is called Tears of Gaia by After the Fall. Almost all of the other music I use in my videos is from Streambeats by Harris Heller - I use the odd thing from the KZbin audio library too.

[@doublehit9165]

i'm happy to see you compare 2 great isekai anime here :) thanks

[@NatalieXHunter]

Thank you too!

[@literallyme6365]

Arc7 spoil Subaru: breathes Tod: He’s a child poster of war

[@NatalieXHunter]

Shouldn't that be Natsumi? ;)

[@spilsile_109]

@@NatalieXHunter Smolbaru

[@zecond-js1yc]

I haven't watched this video fully but I was waiting for this video.

[@NatalieXHunter]

Yay! Hope you like it!

[@zecond-js1yc]

@@NatalieXHunter i did

[@OJSRT24565]

Good video. About rudy constantly meet people who know someone he knows, I just chalk it up to Rudy's "strong fate".

[@NatalieXHunter]

Yeah, that's a decent enough explanation for it, but I just kinda think he'd probably meet some other people too, iykwim. Like when he spoliers: Joins the special class at the university, he's already met Zanoba, he's met relatives of Linia and Pursena, the missing classmate is Nanahoshi who he even met in his previous world, and so the only person he doesn't already have a connection to is Cliff, who knows who he is and has met Eris... Like, I just think it'd be more plausible if there were a couple of other random unconnected characters in the class he could make friends with, even if they weren't mentioned too much, just to make it feel less on the nose iykwim!

[@gggmfp]

Yknow Nat I think (personally) this is one of your best videos yet And honestly it’s the video I’ve been waiting for since you said you would start covering MT And as always very nice outfit.

[@NatalieXHunter]

Wow, thank you!

[@janina3879]

Oh wow! 1 hour? I'm gonna take my time enjoying this one tomorrow! Thanks in advance!

[@NatalieXHunter]

Hope you enjoy!

[@VincoMalus]

Breathtakingly beautiful analysis/&dissection🙌🏿📽👑

[@BradleytheDavis]

What a great video! Honestly you made Re:Zero sound pretty damn interesting so i may read the light novels. Certainly made it spund more interesting than the anime lead me to believe. As for Mushoku Tensei, i of course absolutely love it so far. New favprite of mine!

[@DeviiBT]

1 hour discussion on my 2 favorite Isekai let's go!

[@kurarai5136]

Wheres the background from in 17:30

[@NatalieXHunter]

The music? All the music used is from Sreambeats by Harris Heller but I can't remember exactly what tracks I used when.

[@kw3n304]

Very good video, deserves more reach.

[@NatalieXHunter]

Much appreciated!

[@DavidBrown-qq6bo]

Re:Zero was the first web novel I read so I have a soft spot for it. I love the mysteries it asks the reader and the unique perspective of the main character. That being said, I read MT after the anime came out and I would have to say, from the conventional story structure elements like plot, setting, and characterization, it is simply more polished. There are a couple of flaws I had a problem with in Re:Zero. First, it is too dialogue-heavy. This is a common problem when an author has a complex plot but has not worked out the plot threads with enough certainty so that he or she can show the audience through the characters' actions. The common "show" don't "tell" problem. MT read more like Tolkien in that the lore was both more immersive and clearly plotted before the pen was put to paper. This makes me afraid that Re:Zero will not be able to tie the many plot threads in a satisfactory manner. MT was easy in this respect because the plot was Rudy's redemption. Another problem I had with Re:Zero that I only really began to notice after I watched MT was the failure to adequately show the reader Subaru's back story. I am an older reader so teenage angst simply doesn't click but anyone who is older can relate to opportunities missed and the incessant doubt about whether they lived a good life. Finally, return by death has one big problem. It asks the reader to repeat settings over and over which I found honestly tiring. In this aspect, MT borrowed from Tolkien the idea of going on a journey, which kept things fresh. Finally, I find bad people to make good characters because there is more room for character development. I love both stories, though, and this ultimately is just my personal opinion.

[@Nice-gh2hy]

Well, you gotta be aware that ur reading the Re:Zero WN and not the polished LN. The LN usually cuts out a lot of unnecessary dialogue.

[@deeemay8169]

I havent actually read mushoku yet so i wont speak on that but i think rezero does the show dont tell really well. I cant remember many moments where they tell us instead of show us expect roswals ideals and plan and maybe some of emilias trial, but theres alot of times where they show rather than tell really well, Like subarus mental problems, how his trauma played into his personality, the five stages of grief, his heroism, and alot more. And with how return by death functions it should be no suprise that they spend alot of time in one setting. As far as arc 6 return by death hasnt really been used in a way that changed the setting its been more used in ways to develop characters and show different sides of people which is done perfectly and it also adds alot to worldbuilding and lore most of the time there in one place. One more thing is rezeros heavily phycological before anything else and its a web novel/light novel so heavy dialogue isnt something thats really bad or suprising.

[@nguyendi92]

@@deeemay8169 I think he mean dialogue between two people. For me it ‘s kinda like Talk no Jutsu. Everything in Subaru’s struggle got solve by Talk no jutsu. He can die a million time then got saved and miraculously find the right solution just by someone talked to him. Return by death do got kinda stale, since it’s basically just how many deads till he got talked to and miraculously find the right solution again. I am talking about later arcs, not the first four Arcs. The situation maybe different but the structure is the same. That is why arc 5 and begin of arc 6 are great cuz subaru doesn’t get RBD too many times, confronted with an entirely new problem.

[@nguyendi92]

I agree with you. The biggest point toward Mushoku Tensei is that it’s finished. And it consistently got better during its run time. There are so many stories that was fantastic in the beginning but write itself into a corner or just repeat the same formula to infinity. The singular light novel I have read that make it worthwhile till the very end is only Mushoku Tensei. I have hope but still afraid that Rezero can’t delivered the massive expectations about the mystery of the entire series. P/s: MT would strongly resonate with readers the older we are. I mean , I did have teenage angst but it’s feel so minor compared to real life expectations and family obligations. I read MT a long while ago and now it resonates harder to me when I revisit it.

[@DavidBrown-qq6bo]

@@nguyendi92 Actually, the family drama I found unique. Every member in the family is fleshed out with the possible exception of Zenith. This seems unique in this genre and gives the story a really grounded feel. I'm not bothered by Rudy's actions. I've seen it all and I actually like it because I can see the point the author is trying to make with all the shocking behavior in the story. How Rudy protects his children, though, really hit me as a father.

[@michi2632]

Nice video!

[@NatalieXHunter]

Thanks!

[@philleW12]

It’s hard for me to be completly objective about the series and saying which one i like more since i have only recently gotten into MT but i have been a RZ fan for years. I do have an attachment to RZ because of that but i am currently loving my experience with MT. Great video, it’s nice to see a comparison between two of my favourite Isekai’s.

[@aarondubourg3706]

Imho, MT has better pacing and story structure etc while RZ has a deeper story and characters etc. I can read MT continuously without putting it down but be more than happy to put RZ down after a chapter. But There so much more to think and analyze about RZ than there is for MT

[@NatalieXHunter]

Yeah, I think that's true. Though MT does have a lot to theorize about when it comes to what will happen in the sequel, so it does still satisfy that part of me that likes mysteries in a similar way to Re:Zero.

[@MrTimeattacker]

Same,recently binged spyx family as well,While reading re:zero it just gets really heavy,but thats a +ve for me

[@mjalyt2874]

Great analysis, great voice, I do hope you get more views. There is a bit more things I would have like to add to the world building of MT such as the geography and how it influences the people living there. For example, in the Central Continent the Asurans don't show much prejudice against the Demon Race where as people from the Milis hate them to the core. You might think initially this is because of their belief and I agree but there is more to it. You see they are the Nation that lives closest to the Demon Continent if you have seen the Map. During the Human-Demon War they suffered the most casualties being at the frontline of it. So their hatred is more deep rooted than the Asurans.

[@justchik4942]

great vid holy shit, i would love to hear your take on the toaru series, i could only dream of vids like this on it

[@NatalieXHunter]

I'm anime only on it at the moment so I couldn't do this kind of thing about it, but I like it, so when I do take on the LNs I may do that...

[@justchik4942]

@@NatalieXHunter hype is real, toaru, jobless and land of the lustrous, your content is tailored for me lol

[@NatalieXHunter]

I just finished writing a new Land of the Lustrous one actually - hope to have it up tomorrow as I still have to record and edit it.

[@justchik4942]

@@NatalieXHunter hype is real, land of the lustrous deserves more love on yt

[@pacosalvs13]

I was waiting for this hahaha

[@NatalieXHunter]

Awww thanks - hope you like it!

[@rajvirmalhans2073]

You know considering how much of a chad and DILF Subaru’s dad is, it’s understandable Subaru would feel insecure

[@KiriCade]

“But there’s football for that” what a brilliant quote lol

[@nicoleuswhite2192]

You actually nailed it, Mushoku Tensei feels like a prequel to a much more grand scale story.

[@deathjanus]

Re Zero covers only a few years of Subaru's life. Meanwhile, Mushoku thus far is the childhood years of Rudeus. He has not yet reached his teenage years. The novel covers his entire life. There is much more to go for the anime.

[@lukeskywalker82]

@@deathjanus yea. Spoiler alert! Except it ENDS BEFORE THE HUMAN GOD IS DEAD, AAAAAAAAARRGHHHHH!!!

[@deathjanus]

Fear not! Author will make a direct sequel. Spoiler!!!! Rudeus might not the the ML but it will definitely finish off Hitogami. Buahaha

[@lukeskywalker82]

@@deathjanus god I hope so

[@bradleymurray1027]

Jus what i needed to finish my last hr of work…

[@NatalieXHunter]

Hope you enjoy it!

[@SeaCow1g]

Haven't watched the full video yet but I just wanna make a prediction, hopefully this comment doesn't age badly: I think NatalieXHunter prefers Re: Zero overall. Now it could be any number of reasons why but I think what it most likely boils down to is: Subaru. Subaru might be one of the best MC's I've ever encountered in media. Maybe it's just my own biases speaking here, but if I were to venture a guess I think Subaru is the factor that sets two series most apart.

[@NatalieXHunter]

Haha - actually not something I say in the video. I do think Subaru is one of the best MCs in anime (even in fiction), but Rudeus is extremely well written and interesting too, and I find them both really entertaining, so the MC is not the reason I give for my slight preference at the end!

[@lucyadam9128]

@@NatalieXHunter I also love Rudy but Subaru is just the top he is even better than guts for me

[@SeaCow1g]

@@lucyadam9128 I've never found a character in media I personally resonate stronger than I do with Subaru. And the thing is, I don't even think it has anything specifically to do with Subaru's personality per se. He just oozes a sort of energy born out of a lost generation that nevertheless tries really hard to rise above all the baggage that accompanies those circumstances.

[@goldenangel158]

Great video

[@NatalieXHunter]

Thanks!

[@goldenangel158]

@@NatalieXHunter your welcome

[@Ronin11111111]

I don't know if you know this, but in the Mushoku Tensei manga volumes there are extra novel chapters or extra comics, and in 2 of them this manifests as a Re:Zero crossover, involving that certain unfortunate fight you mentioned.

[@NatalieXHunter]

I haven't read the manga, but I have seen some of the Re:Zero crossover panels when people were sharing them to try to show how stupid the fan wars were!

[@Ronin11111111]

@@NatalieXHunter The manga does some.... questionable changes in adapting the novels, but it's still a very fun read, the art is genuinely great especially in the big emotional scenes and the extra stories I say are must reads.

[@NatalieXHunter]

Yeah, I usually just read the LNs of things that were originally LNs and only read the manga of stuff that was originally manga - though I did buy and read the first three arcs of the Re:Zero manga in Italian to practice reading the language where I'm not good enough to read a novel! If there's extra stuff though then that makes it seem worth reading - I'll probably wait a while though, reading the manga of something I literally just read the novels of and am watching as an anime feels like it might be a bit less interesting than if I wait til I forget some stuff haha!

[@Ronin11111111]

@@NatalieXHunter Understandable, my process is usually: hear about new dope isekai anime > read what's available of the manga > if I really like it I read the novel. This is how I'm now buying new books of Slime isekai, Ascendance of a Bookworm and Mushoku as they come out. I checked out the Slime LN on a whim and now here I am. Obsessed with all 3 series. A new Bookworm book is out and I can't even bring myself to start it because I KNOW it's gonna make me sad just by looking at the cover. Back on the topic of the MT manga extras I really do recommend checking them, they're newly written by RNM for the volume releases. V7, for example, has Paul telling Norn a story about himself and Zenith in their adventuring days about how he tried to woo her. It's pretty adorable. Another one is Kishirika recounting why she promised to be Badigadis fiance after she resurrected.

[@NatalieXHunter]

Ahhhh I want to see the Kishirika one!

[@VictorLiso]

Fuck me, Nat! You just Just around the 5:45 minute mark you said something I was preparing to say in my in my possible future videos! Thought I thihnk I want to say it differently.

[@magatsuverison3835]

I was unaware there was a Twitter war, but I definitely look forward to seeing how this goes... Edit:I love that you brought up the fact that it feels like everyone is connected to rudeus. It kinda bugged me a little cus it felt way to convenient at times that he just happens to have some connection to the person or area infront of him. While it was super fun to spot as an Easter egg, I feel Rezero did a better job there in regards to making the world feel like it's own thing and Subaru interacting with it, rather than the other way around. I'll lose my heart with this edit but, I just finished the video and it must be stated

[@NatalieXHunter]

LOL I gave the heart back . No worries!

[@84ganta]

i love both stories and the animu adaptations!both stoudios (same stoudio actually) gave a lot of love n care to the adaptations,mushoku has better animation(the "feel" of it at least) which imo comes from the experience the stoudio has now.as stories i think they have the same "core" ,learn how to love-be loved-self love and growth,they go their own ways as the stories go on and till re zero ends we cant really compare the two.all n all i really feel blessed that i get to experience the animu adaptation as it comes out weekly and i really think that both animuz will be masterpieces if we get the full adaptations!

[@naciertrollz6323]

I really have to start the Mushoku Tensei LN, also new vid lets goo

[@naciertrollz6323]

Also might just be me but your mic sounds a bit quiet

[@NatalieXHunter]

Yeah, there was something a bit off about it that I couldn't figure out how to fix yesterday, after my cat kinda messed with stuff on my desk... Today I figured out the problem and fixed it so it should be back to normal on my next video!

[@naciertrollz6323]

@@NatalieXHunter Cool, it definitely wasn’t bad or anything just a bit quiet. Thanks for the reply

[@VaradMahashabde]

27:00 is that a casual reveal of the Hunter Re:Zero clip organization system 🤔😏? Spoilers ahead "say, 1 year" A very convenient example yes Isn't the Regulus backstory the first antagonist perspective chapter (well at least part of the chapter), at the very least an earlier example than the Todd chapters?

[@NatalieXHunter]

I have no clip organization system lol - I stopped using clips at all due to the Kadokawa nonsense and so I just downloaded some random ones to use for this video! I guess so, yes, but backstory/dying thoughts is a bit different to 'things Subaru would really, really benefit from knowing are happening' like the arc 7 example.

[@xevinsjaegernaut1414]

And then you have Toaru which has no timeskips whatsoever, 9/10 arcs happen over maybe three days and the next arc (or an arc written years later but eventually slotted in) happens literally the next game. That being said the result is that the franchise started in midsummer and is currently in late December of the same year.

[@NatalieXHunter]

Yeah, it's got Breaking Bad style timing - where you watch it for years and realize only six months have passed for the characters!

[@thewildcard600]

it started in june/july and now we are just past new year.... almost 50 volumes later. man i love this story

[@thewildcard600]

Tappei starts a new arc Subaru: oh shit here we go again

[@st4rg4zr]

how much do i miss if i have only experienced rz in anime form? should i continue reading the novels from where the anime left off or do i start from vol.1

[@NatalieXHunter]

You can start with arc 5 if you want to carry on where the anime left off and it'll all make sense, but there were a few important things cut in the anime. I do have a video explaining how to read ahead - you have to read the web novel for most post anime stuff as the English light novels are only partway through arc 5, so it's best to read arc 5 onwards (all the post anime stuff), from the WN.

[@charlesacker9174]

Oh hour long video that's interesting. Lemme give you like/comment to boost algorithm bump right now because I trust your opinion. I'll comment later when I finish watching. Interested in how you handle longest video format.

[@NatalieXHunter]

I have done long videos before - I actually really like doing them but they take days to write so I don't do it too often!

[@pktrainerfadi1409]

only isekai i enjoyed fully where mushoku tensei, re zero and konosuba or as i call them the holy trifecta lol

[@NatalieXHunter]

Those are my top three isekai series as well, but there are a lot of others I think are pretty good. Even just this season I like Assassin Aristocrat and Faraway Paladin a lot so far. But I'm isekai trash all the way haha!

[@pktrainerfadi1409]

@@NatalieXHunter might check out assassin to be honest

[@yochananzaqantov7143]

Have you read the Re: zero and Mushoku Tensei Side story when Subaru and Rudeus meet in Rudeus's world. Vol9 : Collab Mushoku Tensei and Re:Zero part 1 Vol10 : Collab Mushoku Tensei and Re:Zero part 2

[@michaeldmingo1525]

Where can I get Jobless Redundancy and Oblige?

[@NatalieXHunter]

Errrr, I'd say Google it - someone gave me a link to a Google Drive that had them but I'm not sure I should share that publicly like this. They're not hard to find though, if you search.

[@subtorren4928]

my only nitpick here is the audio please make it more clear but thanks for the video ,would like to see you review the arcs of both series

[@NatalieXHunter]

Yeah, I had something wrong with my mic that I just couldn't fix that day, after my cat had kinda messed with stuff on my desk... I managed to fix it yesterday so audio quality should be back to normal on newer videos.

[@subtorren4928]

@@NatalieXHunter great I am excited for more videos

[@lucyadam9128]

Yay new video

[@NatalieXHunter]

Yeah, this one requires a bit of time though haha!

[@A_itsar]

I think both stories are great but I still prefer mushoku tensei, probably because it's the first one I read/watch, but also I like the idea of a story telling someone's whole life

[@yassinelighto1302]

I watched the whole video, very well put, especially the fundamental of the stories redemption/growth. But I have a question unrelated if anybody can answer. What does the title "Joblsse Reincarnation" mean? I have to precise that I'm not talking about the surface level answer like "the MC's past life" I have my own idea about the answer, but I'd like to hear others as well.

[@NatalieXHunter]

I'd never really thought about it on a more deep level tbh, I was just taking it literally - he's jobless and he gets reincarnated...

[@rajvirmalhans2073]

I mean it could similarly be translated is NEET or unemployed reincarnation. Many manga and LN have multiple translations for their titles if you search them online too

[@NatalieXHunter]

It just never really occurs to me to expect the title of a light novel not to be a literal description of the premise of the story lol - I think the full title is something like Jobless Reincarnation: I Will Seriously Try if I Am Reborn in Another World...

[@rajvirmalhans2073]

@@NatalieXHunter I mean mushoku tensei and re zero are both the short form after the series becomes popular. All part of advertising and standing out at a book stand lol

[@NatalieXHunter]

Yeah, exactly, if you look at less popular light novels by newer authors, if they have a complicated premise you can't just sum up as like 'Goblin Slayer' or something, they have basically a full synopsis as a title and I find that kind of fun even though I know exactly why it is done (same reason my books often had those kinds of titles actually!).

[@rajvirmalhans2073]

You know I was thinking how the future setup after the series conclusion seems similar to some characters and aspects as re zero if we think about the warriors and legacy and all. Also both worlds feel very real that you feel like the author has experienced another world

[@NatalieXHunter]

LOL, the ultimate theory - Tappei and Magonote actually were isekai'd and made it back!

[@rajvirmalhans2073]

Like we have a Reinhardt, Julius, a prophesy and famous family in Mushoku Tensei

[@rajvirmalhans2073]

@@NatalieXHunter look the worlds feel too real like you could see Lugunica and even the world of MT existing lol

[@VarticTube]

The main difference between them is that Re:zero is more fantasy and optimistic while Mushoku Tensei is more suspenseful and realistic. Yes, I agree, RZ is moving toward a complete ending with all lose ends being tied up, this is more or less why for me RZ > MT, it's a story about hope and good winning the day. I love MT, don't get me wrong, I am very attached to the characters and I think the story is amazing. It also feels a lot more real. There are some antagonists in MT that are honorable people whos goal is protecting their family/race. Also on Rudy's side some people are murderers or (a word I won't use so youtube's algorithm won't have a problem with this video being promoted, but you know what Paul did). Our anti-hero's goal isn't justice, sure justice would be preferable, but he would never sacrifice his family, friends or his own body for morale justice. The first person narration and the fact that we live inside Rudy's head I believe is necessary in order to sympathize with him enough that you actually want him to succeed. Else I would have a hard time rooting for him and not his enemies. On the romance side, sure, you can say that Re:zero isn't over yet so it's to early to talk. But, if we assume that RZ is halfway done, you have to admit that MT had A LOT of romantic development by the same point in its story. Also to quote Plinkett's review of star wars "why ayn't nobody married in this story except -Jimmy Smits- Wilhelm?". It really does feel like married couples in RZ only exist to justify the main characters coming from somewhere, other that Wilhelm and Teresia, whos relationship was first and foremost about them (at the beginning at least, before we learned who their child and grandchild is). "That Chapter" was deleted because it was against of the terms of service of the website the WN was hosted on. The author said that even if he were to rewrite the story it would have the same story beats so we will have to see what happens when the redundancy light novel comes out. I believe this infamous part of the story will return in print form since a published book would not have the same censorship rules applied to it like a public domain website has, but maybe it will not be translated for western audiences. Rudy only meeting people he is related to is absolutely blown out of proportion and just false. He met waaay more new characters than people he had an indirect connection with. Yes, he did """stumble""" upon Roxy and Ghislaine's villages, but that doesn't happen overnight he met Roxy when he was 3 years old and visited her village SEVEN years later... and it wasn't even that eventful, they just arrived there and the villagers were nice enough to aid them on their way. Ok, saving the Doldia village only to realize that the chief is Ghislaine's father ( Roxy's dad by comparison was either just a regular guy or the village gatekeeper lol) was a big coincidence, but I had bigger coincidences happen to me in my life. [Novel spoilers] Also, we know that fate is an actual -game mechanic- thing in the story. Yes, because the author said so, but the author also said that magic exists in this world so why is that easy to swallow, but not fate? Honestly it should just be treated like it's own subclass of magic and that's that. Side note, I would like to know which is stronger between Rudy's fate and Kazuma's luck.

[@kaikiriya2761]

dunno about others opinion about "that chapter" but what really bugs me about it is how uncharacteristic some of the characters are when they faced the situation, like eris for example, like she had little to no reaction about it if I remember correctly, like what happened there? I hope the author properly flesh out that arc when it finally becomes a light novel, as it is really a risky move to do, props to him as for not being afraid to do such a thing. I would really like to see what consequences it might bring once the sequel series eventually comes out, since you know this is rifujin we're talking about, this would have consequences. Kinda scared tho on how the western fans would take it as its a really controversial topic, as some might say it destroys aisha's development(like me, but as long as the author fleshes that arc it would probably be fine), but we'll see.

[@VarticTube]

@@kaikiriya2761 Oh man, I could say so many things about that chapter. But I'll just argue the points here avoiding spoilers. I think Eris' reaction was on point, violence. It's just that her mentality is divorced from Rudy's western civilization mentality, she wasn't mad about what happened, but has disappointed that her lesson of 'protect the weak' was ignored. As for Aisha, I think this story completed her development, hence the name of the chapter. For years she was trained to serve, now at long last she wanted something, for herself. Was it wrong? Yeah it was. In a way it was the sins that Rudy, Eris and Lilia committed in they youth combined and coming back to bite them in the ass. I agree with you that parts need to be fleshed out since some of Aisha's interactions were out of place and hard to believe.

[@Comic.215]

Ngl, you’re really tempting me to read the MT LN’s. Other than that I’d have to say I prefer Re:Zero, mostly because I’m an anime only for MT(with knowledge of some spoilers) and a caught up WN reader of Re: Zero. I say that mostly because of Re:Zero’s character writing, story and character dynamics. I’m sure MT will do the same thing for me as I’m falling in love with the show and it’s characters but as of now, I prefer Re:Zero. Great video and I’m glad that you’re uploading again!

[@NatalieXHunter]

I think for me there's also the fact I've been reading Re:Zero for years, have reread lots of it several times, and have put a lot of time into researching all the stuff about it, so I just know it better - but I felt just as addicted to the novels as I did the first time I read arc 4 of Re:Zero years ago, so it's great to be as hyped about a series again!

[@Comic.215]

@@NatalieXHunter Yes I feel exactly the same way. I haven’t felt this hyped to catch up to a series in a little while

[@legend1385]

Ah this video makes me glad I enjoy both series equally I hate comparing series 😭😭😭

[@Nakama4Forever]

Saw the time on it and was like dam she made a chunky video. I gotta check this out 🤣

[@Speedracer6]

Personally, I think it's fine that Rudy's life didn't feel like the most important point in the world. That's just how life is. Most likely, you'll never be Albert Einstin, Involved with World War 2 the war to end all wars or discoverer of a new continent. But you can still do your best to make your mark on the world and maybe your actions will grow into something bigger in the future. Even if the history books never mark down your name. It just made Rudy's life feel more real.

[@NatalieXHunter]

I think it's fine for the story, but it did set up a lot of stuff that would happen after Rudy's life, and it's natural that we want to know how the stuff that would come after would go down. It just means that while MT is finished, the story the author is creating about the world itself won't be without a sequel, unlike RZ which is most likely going to conclude all the major things introduced within the current series, iykwim.

[@Cristian18bs]

Me gusta Mushoku Tensei y debo decir que es buena serie, solo me vi la primera temporada del anime y actualmente la que está en emisión como su segunda temporada. En cuanto a Re:Zero debo decir que soy un fanático de su historia siendo el único anime que me motivo lo suficiente como para leer su novela. Me enganchó tanto que hasta leí sus what if y demás historias extra. Mushoku Tensei y Re:Zero son dos historias completamente distintas, en mi caso Re:Zero es mi número 1 superando por muchos escalones a mis otros animes favoritos. Cuando digo que esta serie me ha hecho sentir tan triste como para llorar sentir la desesperación y dolor de Subaru lo estoy diciendo en serio está serie me ha hecho sentir totalmente diferente incluso cambiando algunos puntos de vista de mi persona algo que las demás historias de anime que he visto, no han logrado. No voy a infravalorar la trama de mushoku pero en comparación con Re:Zero opino que está muy atrás en muchos aspectos como drama, terror, romance y desarrollo, así que espero que siga mejorando su historia con esta temporada y las que vallan a animar

[@rod4309]

Comparing things isn't stupid or pointless. It's another tool for learning about things.

[@azureaether1661]

Where can I watch Mukoshu Tensei? My usual go to is Crunchyroll and it isnt on there

[@NatalieXHunter]

I don't know, it varies by region and I live in a different country to most of my viewers so I never really mention where to watch stuff! I think it's on Funimation in the US but I could be wrong.

[@josejuancotacastillo8400]

Good video.

[@zecond-js1yc]

This was long but fun ride

[@NatalieXHunter]

Awww, thank you!

[@ferris2344]

Can You please make A video about the re ZERO isberg. :1

[@NatalieXHunter]

I think Jake is working on one of those and I don't want to do the same video as him!

[@ferris2344]

@@NatalieXHunter Ok thats good. Its just that Therese is no videos about it after bubbus died.

[@rajvirmalhans2073]

@@ferris2344 he did?

[@ferris2344]

@@rajvirmalhans2073 no he just took some time of

[@rajvirmalhans2073]

@@ferris2344 ah ya haven’t seen much of him lately

[@SeaCow1g]

Unfortunately, there IS actually a legitimate reason for the rivalry between the two series: The success of Mushoku Tensei DID come at the expense of Re: Zero Season 2. It is well known that Studio Bind, the studio that makes the Mushoku Tensei anime adaptation, is made up of a joint venture between Egg Firm and Studio White Fox, the studio that makes the Re: Zero adaptation. Many of the most talented animators that now work on Mushoku Tensei have officially left White Fox to work on Mushoku Tensei, leaving the Re: Zero adaptation to fall to the wayside. We’ve already witnessed a significant drop in production quality during Re: Zero’s 2nd season (especially during the 2nd cour) and there’s rumors of even worse problems at the studio in regards to the production of season 3. Now, of course, this doesn’t justify hating on Mushoku Tensei, but the truth is that you can’t really “choose both” either. The fantastic production quality we see in Mushoku Tensei DID come at the expense of Re: Zero and it is understandable that some die hard Re: Zero fans are a bit salty about that. Personally, I love Re: Zero but I can live with just reading the novels to get my fix. I’m happy to get a quality anime production wherever I can get it and Mushoku Tensei is also a good story, so I’ll take it.

[@NatalieXHunter]

I mean, to me, while I did get into both of them because of the anime, I've read all of MT and am up to date on Re:Zero, so to me the anime is now just a cool thing to watch that is far behind - it's not what I'm judging the story and writing on, and those are the things I care about most (being a writer not an animation expert)... Plus, I don't really worry too much about things like a slight drop in animation quality (though I do have a video explaining all of the reasons for the issues with production quality in Re:Zero season 2, and it's not just the staff working on Mushoku Tensei - there was also the fact season 1 was supported by Nexus, whereas season 2 was all done in house by White Fox, and various other changes). I was more concerned by things like cut content in season 2, which would have happened whoever directed the animation. It's probably just a different perspective depending on what people value most about the media, but being annoyed at some internal stuff going on with animation studios isn't a reason to say a series or its fanbase are bad...

[@Natsuki_Sufferu]

The new Re:Zero trailer looks amazing. When I read this comment 2 years ago, I was dreading, but it looks like whitefox is giving the love that re:zero deserves.

[@DabDabGoose]

Wonder if the Author will change to a 3rd person story for the Sequel series for Mushoku Tensei if it happens, might be hard considering he has done the POV perspective soo well but It would be a brave choice that could have more potential if done right.

[@siginotmylastname3969]

She's completely wrong about re zero being mostly in third person, it's just translated more easily that way in english. The narration constantly slips in the person's thoughts it's focused on, and not from multiple characters but focusing on a pov. The reason I think 1st person with Liliana was jarring to people was that most of the pov's are either focusing on relatively objective things, like Garfiel mid fight, or very self reflective meaning a lot of switches between narration and commentary, plus dialogue, as with Subaru in more peaceful moments. But Liliana as a character is mostly self reflective in dialogue, it's not a sort of internal battle and any of her questioning is put on the surface, I think it seems comparitively shallow. But anyway, re zero was always multiple povs with inner monologue going on somewhere or other. There's a tonne of stuff Subaru's not aware of as well.

[@DabDabGoose]

@@siginotmylastname3969 but isn't that pretty much a 3rd person view point at that that stage? In MT outside a few other POVs sprinkled here and there, the entire story is basically how Rudeus sees it, so your kept in his scope of what he can possibly know about any given situation.

[@mihawk702]

For me are way too different to compare both, Re:Zero was the first time i cryed with an anime, and i'm referring to season 1, because season 2 devastate me... i couldn't re-watch for 2 too 3 weeks the episode parents and child because that hit me too hard, with this i saying that with Re:Zero i experienced more emotions and connections with the characters; while with Mushoku Tensei i experience adventures in a fantasy world with characters that i like, but that's just me maybe.

[@warrenbutler3943]

Mushoku Tensei is the best thing since sliced bread for me, love Re:Zero and all, and there are more hype moments in that anime so far, but the world building, art, and music, as well as some of the characterization are so immersive and well executed that it's always a highlight of the week for me. As well as the demon continent using a fake language, its incredible tbh. They're both great though, would sacrifice many anime on the altar before Re:Zero. Great vid though. Do you have a discord for the channel?

[@garagara4849]

For information, the language used isn't fake. There is actually a real language that was created for every single MT language, so if you want to learn it for yourself, you actually can (not actually sure you can find it though). And said language(s) is (are) used in the anime appropriately. Just thought I would share that since I find it really impressive ^^. I guess when the studio was created for a specific show, they can pull all the plugs on it huh! I love it

[@NatalieXHunter]

I do have a Discord for the channel but I don't post links to it publicly to avoid trolls joining. I haven't had time to be on there much lately where I'm making a lot of content, but if you message me on my Discord NatalieXHunter#5890 I'll send you an invite when I have a minute.

[@fva1835]

I hope you have read the Old Dragon Tale.

[@NatalieXHunter]

Not yet, I've got it but I'm still working my way through the side content - I'm still on Redundancy at the moment.

[@lg2m480]

Mine is an unfair comparison, but I can only tell what I've experienced and what both series made me feel... And it seems like I've written too much again. Re:Zero was one of the few works that really made me go for the source material (despite its insufferable moments in S1 that still make me cringe), mostly because of the premise and the mysteries. Won't state the things we start to notice Season 2 onwards cause it would be much more unfair as I have yet to experience more of Mushoku (but for now MT world feels more realistic and intricate, albeit more linear, whereas RZ world feels more real in the way it presents things and contradicts itself constantly, as real world events would be expected to do). As for Mushoku, season 1 was fine, but it honestly didn't take my breath away like I feel it should, and it still didn't compel me to keep looking and waiting anxiously (like ToG with 12 episodes did, for example). I've heard it picks up later, and I'm eagerly waiting for it. Art and direction were amazing, I must say tho that RZ soundtrack is an incredible rival. Mushoku was very well crafted, for sure, and it has an amazing world, but it feels like just another fantasy for now at least (for which we might have better contenders). Maybe the premise would be enough to make me interested if nowadays Isekai weren't oversaturated (even then, it seems to be one of the few that try and do it right). As for the protagonist, I simply hated him (as I hate most of S1 Subaru, and the fact I love RZ despite this is a statement in itself). It doesn't push me away from the work as a whole, since I also like character studies and feel no need to insert myself to enjoy a good story. I think Rudeus is much more insufferable than Subaru tho (my personal opinion), bearing being disgusting at some points. His self-loathing can make me interested up to some point, but after that I just want to smack him on the face (as I admittedly want to do with Subaru to this day in Arc 7 sometimes). I know it will be a long work so he becomes a better person and overcome the problems in his past, but there's only so much I can take it as an excuse for him and his actions. The disparity between mind and body also always throws me off in Isekai fantasies (a problem which Re:Zero avoids), but it's arguably a pet peeve of mine. In the end it comes to RZ picking my interest more than MT if I compare the start for both series, but I'm open to changing my mind as MT advances and I can experience more of it. Well, edited to fix a spelling mistake and lost the heart... can't be helped lol... But after finishing the video, I must say this as very in-depth analysis and I throughly enjoyed it, and I usually dislike such long videos.

[@zoltorortegus6259]

@NatalieXHunter You so need to watch the Twelve Kingdoms. It's definitely no throw away, It's a masterpiece. World building is off the charts, great story, a amazingly unique way of telling such, that intertwines multiple main stories together, great music/art, and to date still has the top two best support characters ever created, ect.

[@rajvirmalhans2073]

I spent too much time thinking about hobbits being legal Shōta or under that category. Also I have only seen 2 anime refer to hobbits or halflings which are this one potentially and also in restaurant in another world. Also both Rudy and Subaru didn’t plan on travelling the world. They both would rather stay in one place

[@NatalieXHunter]

Well, hobbits don't really appear in MT, they're just mentioned occasionally. Because hobbits are the lamest fantasy race. Can't do anything humans can't, are kind of twee, have hairy feet.

[@rajvirmalhans2073]

@@NatalieXHunter ah I thought spoiler: Cliff was one. Well that’s interesting still

[@rajvirmalhans2073]

@@NatalieXHunter true elves are amazing and demons. Wonder how long Roxy and Sylphie can live for

[@siginotmylastname3969]

It's not true that Subaru's past is unspoken till arc 4 because we don't need it. Information on the characters is given in subtle hints dialogue etc narrator comments, and each backstory should be used to recontextualise how we saw them before. Tappei is incredibly precise with this.

[@lucyadam9128]

I was so addicted to Mt once but I have alot of problems with it story. wish fulfillment stories can be amazing and very deep (I think people use the word power fantasy and wish fulfillment like it a bad thing but it really isn't) I know it very hard for to describe my problem with Mt but the way that I will explain it is when ever I try to deeply analyse it I ending up dissatisfied with it but when ever I try to enjoy it without overthinking it I ending up loving it , so that way I think Mt isn't deep thinking too deeply about it only made it bad .

[@garagara4849]

I feel like in MT's case, Rudy's progression is what you would "expect" from the start somewhat, but the "how" makes it all worthwile, with all the worldbuilding and situations that make it work so much better. Now don't get me wrong the character building is great, but I think it would be a shame to call it a wish fulfillement when, other than the main character, it focuses on so many other important things I do have problems with the story as well, but there is this... human nature behind all of it that pushes it to the fantastic side imo Oh and I'm a big rezero fan for context, I don't think either should get a treatment above the other since they are about vastly different themes after all

[@lucyadam9128]

@@garagara4849 yes I believe that every story can be good if it has a heart put into it. The difference between Mt and re zero with the other isekais is that they feel like they have a heart

[@garagara4849]

@@lucyadam9128 Both feel like human studies in some way. So much depth in the eploration of psychology from so many notions and aspects you can't see in every day life... And used beautifully in these two stories to convey such powerful words! For some reason, Ram in ReZero (LN and WN) has some of the most memorable lines I have ever read in every arc she's in It's pretty incredible if I do say so myself

[@lucyadam9128]

@@garagara4849 agreed

[@rangerslade2444]

Both series are great.

[@leagueofteague]

My favorite two Isekai ☺️

[@luisreynamboarcos2958]

Mushoku Tensei secuel is confirmed to happen after the light novel (not the web novel, which is already finished) ends. And we already had a taste of how a novel without Rudy would be like with the short novel Jobless oblige and the prequel about Laplace's early life, so we know Maganote can make a good novel without the incredible charm Rudeus has as a narrator. So... yeah, waiting to read about op sleepy head and fur ball saving the world.

[@rajvirmalhans2073]

Is it on Lara? What sort of sequel?

[@kirito-ud1qd]

What about overlord and tanya the evil they are masterpiece too, specifically their light novels

[@NatalieXHunter]

I like them both but they both have particular quirks to the isekai set ups and (particularly in Tanya's case) the settings, that make them unique but also difficult to compare to the rest of the genre. Where MT pretty much plays it straight and Re:Zero deconstructs it, it's easier to see them as kind of pure but peak isekai, whereas Tanya and Overlord switch things up in different ways so are more like innovative stories that use isekai. I haven't read all of either of them yet though, so maybe when I've finished them both I'll reconsider that.

[@nguyendi92]

I dont think Overlord or Tanya as masterpieces. They are just good stories that is good at sth, and lacking in others. The characters are very one dimensional. There is no actual tension when the pro tag just wipe the floor with the enemies. There is no inner conflict no character development . The world building is cardboard cutout. The story trick us that it is going somewhere but it’s the same encounter in different clothes. They are great comedies, just not a great stereo typical story.

[@kirito-ud1qd]

@@nguyendi92 you need to read overlord light novel and you're perspective will change on it, it's easy to say something is bad when you're ignorant about it. Overlord's world building is god tier like tower of god's, better than mushoku tensei i would argue since it just doesn't give us complete map of the world and is filled with mysteries which make sense as the world was not fully discovered in medieval age and tell me in which story do you feel like mc is gonna die, it's obvious that mc will not die so the stakes are never in any anime to begin with except a few but ya i won't say anything about tanya the evil you can see it as you want but it's was something new and different for me.

[@nguyendi92]

@@kirito-ud1qd I did, till Shalltear betrayal. The characters are just one dimensional and evil and lack of empathy for no apparent reason. The world building summed up in one word: “ like a game ” and I lose interest. If it’s like a game, that’s mean no internal logic. A rule of physic in one place can be totally different in another place? The author can pull any bulshit and it’s can be said “ cuz it’s a game”? How is it interesting when the MC can just pull any thing out of his ass and auto win the fight? Not relate to life or death of the MC but just if he win or lose. Shounen Jump mangas did it way better for decades. While Luffy or Naruto never in a danger of dying, their fight always nail-biting, dramatic, and full of suspense because we dont know if they are gonna win or not. About story structure, The Main character can only be as strong as their antagonist. They can be OP as much as the author want, it’s just meaningless words if there are no true antagonist that can give the protag real problem

[@kirito-ud1qd]

@@nguyendi92 well, if you want a strong antagonist than overlord is really not for you because shalltear is the strongest antagonist till now volume 14 and probably always be, but overlord is very less about fighting in the first place it's more of a physiological thriller than shonen style fighting anime. It's mind game type anime, well i don't blame you because there isn't much of it in starting and in all honesty first 3 volume are very boring but it will become good if you read ahead, you can say we are villain this time taking over the world like evil mastermind and about physics law it's not different everywhere but new world's physics is different from ours and there are some irregularities in the world for reasons you will as world you see now is tempered and changed a lot by the people who were transported before ainz and the mysterious surrounding them and their transportation and Suzuki satoru doesn't even comes from our world but a dystopian world where even the air is unbreathable and his mother died from overwork when he was in elementary school, it's a lot dark. The tension will also increase later as he is powerful but not invisible and there are other npcs in his guild even more powerful than him and there is always the fear that his npcs will be mind controlled and used against him after shalltear incident, no matter how powerful he is je always lives in fear that there might be other hostile players which reflects in many of his decisions. Honestly it's just started from vol4 you should read ahead you will be able to see his character development and he also lives in fear that his npcs will know what he truly is and turn against which is what kinda of going on to thou for different reasons if you know about albedo conspiracy. I think you should just read something before criticizing it i doesn't blame you if you got bored after first three volumes but you shouldn't criticize the entire overlord for that, there is a reason overlord has such an big fandom when there are so many op isekai protagonist type shows out there.

[@katlafae9487]

Though some may argue with me lol I think Characters from re zero will beat characters from mushoku tensei. Special main cast vs each other I mean with got Emilia witch of glaciation and with her curse to make ice grow out of people not to get to see froze the whole forest as a kid c.mon. we got the demon beserker maid rem then there her twin who manipulates air though she has backlashes of too much power use she still a major factor. Beatrice a over hundred year old psuedo spirit who is very much equally as powerful as knowledgable. so I think just them alone good defeat most Characters in mushoku tensei and if we gonna include more then main like witches of sins and puck and the vampire chick that name I forgot yeah than the dangerous maebeast that come with some witches roswaal. I like to give some shows and characters a chance I just don't really see one too much between the shows when come to power, abilities,skills,weapons. Though I know some may different but that my opinion.

[@jimothyworldbuilding3664]

I have seen absolutely none of ReZero and you've convinced me to watch it. If it fails to entertain me then I will eat a sandwich and be disappointed.

[@kris_user7744]

Have you watched it?

[@Dwivil]

to extend off of Kris, have you seen it?

[@NigelNikoba]

i thought its a Death battle i almost comment "Reinhardt Stomp" but its a comparison overall i like both series that's all i got to say both series good please go read it...

[@nimrodthewise836]

I'm just annoyed by how dense Subaru and Emilia are, especially Emilia.. Subaru: Emilia, I love you. Emilia: what does that mean??

[@jduff59]

Re:ZERO is the only Isekai that had me to tears - as much as I am stoic, Rem's "death" hit me hard. Mushuko Tensei may have the most potential to become the most epic story. I can't wait for more anime adaptations - Roxy, Zenith and Sylph could easily carry 12 episode animes, and they would be just as good as Rudi's exploits. We never get to see just how amazing Zenith is if we've only watched the anime.

[@rhythmmandal3377]

For Mushoku Tensei: Melded magic doesn't require special ability just training and understanding and everyone can do it. Only sword god style is purely a sword style both water god and north god are more general fighting tactics.

[@NatalieXHunter]

Yes, I know. Water god would be more akin to kung fu whereas North God is more like ninjutsu. And I never said melded magic does require a special ability in MT - however in Re:Zero the equivalent requires multiple affinities and advanced skills, so only very high level mages like Roswaal do it.

[@doublehit9165]

in re zero there are pure alteration magic, so i wondered, not being expert in mushokutenseism, is there something like that too? (anithing that alter the perception of things or the rules of the world to an extent are under the cathegory of alteration magic)

[@NatalieXHunter]

Sorry, I don't really understand the question if I'm completely honest haha - what would be the type of thing from Re:Zero you are talking about, and I'll be able to say if there's an equivalent in MT that has been shown in the main story.

[@doublehit9165]

@@NatalieXHunter magic that change how your senses work or change some rules of the world like gravity . Al shamak for example, or murak

[@fva1835]

@@doublehit9165 the Voice Magic use by the beast people distort sense and paralyze the victim you can see this in episode 13. There are others that are not call magic or incorporated into sword technique by the three sword styles

[@NatalieXHunter]

Yes, there is that sort of thing in MT, plus it does have things like complex magic circles that can be used for stuff like teleportation, summoning, and even time travel... Though these are understandably very rare knowledge.

[@josefonseca9178]

The sense of time and space in MT is truly amazing. It makes you fell like you are in the world with the characters. The only other work that has done the same level of immersion, at least of me, is ASOIAF.

[@sandro5535]

Do you think that the company formed to made Mushoku should take over Re:ZERO?

[@NatalieXHunter]

A lot of them were people who worked on Re:Zero season 1 (Studio Bind, who made MT is a joint venture between White Fox - who make Re:Zero - and Egg Firm).

[@sandro5535]

@@NatalieXHunter Based on your answer it sounds like a yes. Although the team might not be big enough to take on both (also growing quickly can backfire)

[@baalzamon3593]

Perhaps I'll give Re Zero another watch. I found Subaru to be an irritating combination of arrogant and incompetent with a cheat mechanic of immortality and a sort of future sight. Rudy OTOH isn't a perfect person, but he always outperforms his own opinion of himself. Underpromise and overdeliver is an amazing strategy such as when he fights Orsted. Because we see the world through Rudy who doesn't hype himself up, I'd have never thought he'd be more effective than my main man Ruijard. Watching Rudy use wind to uncollapse his lungs, push himself to a safer distance, use earth magic to prop himself up after being physically broken and still able to deliver the most potent attack from his side had me on the edge of my seat. And watching Eris cry over Rudy surviving had me also in tears. Whenever Subaru fights, it's like "welp, guess the whiny kid's gonna die again". I just couldn't get into it

[@NatalieXHunter]

I mean, I find it hard to remember how I thought of Subaru at first, given I read the web novel so I'm on arc 7 and that all seems like so long ago, so maybe I thought the same when I first watched season 1. I definitely wouldn't say that now though. If you haven't seen season 2 I'd definitely say give it another chance.

[@baalzamon3593]

@@NatalieXHunter I have not seen season 2, I'll have to catch up and give it a watch. Everyone recommends it, but I just couldn't get past the first season

[@whateverwhatever4476]

@@baalzamon3593 How you feel about the show rn?

[@baalzamon3593]

@@whateverwhatever4476 I rewatched the show and I learned a couple of things. First that I should have never watched the dub version. This was when I was new to anime and it was a mistake. Subaru especially sounds much better in Japanese Second, I appreciate more now having a flawed MC. There are still some cringy moments, but it makes his growth better. I haven't finished it yet, but the 2nd watch is much better than the 1st for me

[@julioalvarengamartinez8829]

thank you sweety

[@NatalieXHunter]

No problem 😊

[@MrTimeattacker]

I really love both series,finished LN on both. Mushoku tensei is what i imagined what a isekai should be ,a new adventure where the plate is wiped clean off,a new beginning,i really love the world building/lore,the encounters in the adventure,all the turning points and some good cast of characters and their relation. Re zero on the otherhand is a complete slap in may face,its a wakeup call what mentally it would feel like to be in another world,your old habits aren't going to away,you need to face your self sooner or later,The great/deep characters/messages lies at the heart of an advanced plot/storytelling, To answer which ones is better ? It's Re:zero not even a question and as to Why : I will just give you one example of Re:zero,Parent and child episode, for the simple fact Subaru doesn't have actually a tragic/ptsd backstory of Parents Dying or bullying like rudeus,The problem lied within himself,he needed to change his habits,his outlook on people around him including parents,and have understanding of other people,not just go on assumption about them because of your insecurities. It felt more real and close to Home I also have to get it out of my chest about my qualm about mushoku tensei as much as i love it (9.5/10) ,its the later half of the story in light novels,I feel like it falss in same trap as shonen anime,At the end of the day Rudues is blessed and is a OP characters in the story and i feel the novels never addressed some of his character Traits(maybe that was the point some people stay like that) and through the series he never has to suffer any severe consequences to himself,obviously Stuff happens to other characters including deaths but its not a consequence of rudy actions its just what plot demanded,The later Half i feel like character development took a huge backseat and i felt it was left halfway though in Favor of the over arching Plot and story Secondly The sexual stuff (Not to what you think),i am indifferent towards it,i don't mind it too much in season 1,but when i read novels especially the next university arc in anime,i am like why focus on it too much ? like except rudues x eris or rudeus x sylphie there was no need for so much attention on the sexual part of the show,like little bit here and there fanservice is fine every anime does that,but like the entire plot dedicated on erectile dysfunction ? not to mention the beast girls. I am not criticizing it because of that but if it excluded that and focused on world/lore more or came with other way to tell the story it would have been much much better,i dunno it just felt awkward to me at times reading it,like author go get laid lmao,stop pushing horny into otherwise fantastic story/world building. I don't have qualms about re:zero but more nitpicks but they are also mostly addressed in later arcs as tappei is getting much better at writing professionally. Thais my honest opinion,Sorry for bad english,i hope my thoughts came out properly

[@jessyonugbolu2106]

Mushoku is family based, not to mention of it was mainly on in a single arc half of the arc’s time then it’s not that big of an issue, Re zero is great but the LN and WN are just too dialogue focused? More importantly, Subarus simpness, his lack of dedication to get stronger, his willingness to destroy his gate and other stuff i forgot is infuriating, Re zero’s WN is more skipped than MT. I’m a first person narration lover but I also enjoy third. Return by death is ok? But it’s exhausting, which is why I love arc 5 for its lack of deaths. Besides MT is not only a fapable material but it also gives more imagination to…… explicit scenes while laughing in the process which kinda hinders orgasm🤔🤔🤔

[@YukitoOnline]

Let's be honest here.. No matter how many years pass. You'll fondly remember some scenes in Mushoku Tensei. You'll remember Rudi's cringe moments and laugh.

[@カジョエラー]

Let's be honest , no matter how many years pass u will remember that subaru made u cringe to death in episode 13 , u will remember that he rejected rem and u will remember the most iconic ending of episode 15. And u will remember the growth of subaru in season 2 and will feel proud of him.

[@YukitoOnline]

@@カジョエラー I don't understand or feel it. I'm a Novel/Manga reader. Not an Anime only.

[@XenomorphgamerBR]

I always will remember subaru and his dumb things :P

[@MaidenlessScrub]

@@カジョエラー what did he do in ep 13 again? I forgot. Though I do remember the other things that you mentioned

[@Abhishek-hd4pp]

Bro I have watched Mushokotensei s1 around a year but I can't remember anything except turning point1 and his reunion with Paul.But I completely remembers most of the scenes of re zero s1and s2 even though watched 2 yrs ago...

[@katlafae9487]

To be honest I have watched re zero but mushoku tensei I find it hard to sit threw and took to long to get to the real stuff and humor kinda annoying honestly. But no take away from how interesting both world building,plots and characters can get Special there lore and history. But I'm just more into psychological,thrillers and more mature presentation.

[@ookami_otaku1206]

Mushoku tensei is actually a prequel that's what the author said

[@NatalieXHunter]

He said it was more kind of, the beginning of the end - a true prequel would I guess be stuff about certain gods from the past...

[@ookami_otaku1206]

@@NatalieXHunter yeah good point but saying prequel is easier for people to understand but it still makes me laugh knowing so much more of the story of slime arifureta and mushoku tensei and so many more and it's not like it's hard to find and read this stuff I'm legally blind what's there excuse for 0 research or fact checking junk looks at normal as a perfect example sony for the little rant and bad spelling and grammar

[@nanicafe]

Right now I think I prefer Mushoku Tensei slightly more. I never have felt so satifised with an isekai and its ending, now that will probably change once Re Zero ends.

[@NatalieXHunter]

I like the ending and it was definitely a satisfying end to Rudy's story... buuuut I still want a sequel series to find out what happens with... well, you know what.

[@nanicafe]

@@NatalieXHunter 100% agree with you that his story does feel very prequelish. I think I just want more from this world.

[@Raptor12213]

@@NatalieXHunter Ya Rudeus almost feels like the Bilbo to his world, which im all for.

[@rajvirmalhans2073]

@@Raptor12213 that’s exactly it in a way lol. And Paul is a prequel to Rudy. The world is immersive enough to write several different stories