Reacting to EPIC the Musical!

[@dragonlemur3271]

The reason it keeps showing a tree when he thinks of home is cause when Odysseus built his palace, he made part of his and Penelope’s bed as a tree so their love would be eternal

[@galacticsaz]

Ohh, interesting! Thank you for sharing that detail, I honestly did not understand XD

[@jaybirdrosewater-holmes7071]

​@galacticsaz don't worry about it, I was confused about the tree when I first got into EPIC lol

[@Zkndammy]

WELCOME TO THE EPIC FANDOM!!!!! We have snacks and trauma 🎉

[@galacticsaz]

Lmao thank you! Glad to be here?? XDD

[@TheWalkingMem3]

There are snacks?

[@beanie1772]

Yes! We have pancakes

[@TheWalkingMem3]

@@beanie1772 well that makes it all worth it. I’ve been dealing with the trauma and dry bread this whole time.

[@g666reaper5]

​@@TheWalkingMem3Hey, at least you haven't had the Divine Sugar Momma and Wet Hades singing in your head the entire time.

[@Sc3neNaegi]

WE GOT ANOTHER ONE, WINIONS!

[@galacticsaz]

Winions? Is that the fandom's name?

[@Sc3neNaegi]

@galacticsaz yep! That's the name of the Epic fans/mascot!

[@galacticsaz]

Ohh, fun! Thank you for explaining that to me :)

[@eternalsummer8409]

It’s also the name of aoelus’s backing singer minions from keep your friends close (wind minions, winions)

[@darkesseanthony126]

i had no regrets showing sazzy and duck this, i hope you enjoy this as much as we did

[@galacticsaz]

Thank you for this, it was tons of fun!

[@ronaldolson6553]

Odysseus actually did apologize to Poseidon there, it's just easy to miss because it's not our modern standard of apology. Back in Ancient Greece Culture, a demand for an apology was basically the harmed party saying, "Make it make sense, and maybe I'll let you off the hook," and the instigating party would give their reasons, and hope the harmed party would accept said reasons.

[@galacticsaz]

Ah, I see! Thank you for explaining! I saw another comment explaining too and I really appreciate it! It genuinely confused me why he didn't just say sorry :')

[@comandantethorn9929]

yep and Poseidon saying "the line between naivety and hopefulness is almost invisible" was his way of saying did you really think i was actually going to forgive you?

[@galacticsaz]

Damn, the waters really were cold for that song XD

[@cyberdragoon1432]

1:30:39 A thing to point out is that Odysseus is Hermes’s great grandson, so you can think of this as him helping out family

[@galacticsaz]

I would like to think that XD Though, as a trickster, he's probably just messing around lol

[@dgrmn12345]

@@galacticsazHermes IS the god of Travellers and Mischief, so it fits well that he plays all sides for either his entertainment and for the lols hehe

[@galacticsaz]

Can't say I don't like that idea either XD

[@sahandriel]

So fun fan theory I've seen floating about the internet. The Prophet, Tiresias, informed Odysseus that he would draw his final breath before making it home. In Get in the Water, we see Poseidon stab Odysseus and the souls of the dead attempt to drag him down before his eyes turn Red. Several theorize that when his eyes turned red, he died and a god (Maybe Ares based on what Athena said in God Games) took over.

[@galacticsaz]

Ooh, interesting. That could be cool!

[@swetiewevil9199]

"He's my favorite" All of us: 👀🫣

[@galacticsaz]

I knew as soon as I said it that he wasn't gonna make it :(

[@everxchosen6057]

Lets add to the pocket sand that is the lyrics. When the souls are interacting with Ody in the Underworld, they are written in a way to show their last thoughts. So his men wondered why their captain took the steps he did, Polites still thought of meeting the world with open arms, and his mom no matter what was waiting for her son. Thank you Jorge for making me tear up when these all come up XD / Also Myth-wise he tried to reach out to his mom three times but couldn't reach her.

[@everxchosen6057]

Also "Neal Illustrator" for the so called Sky Daddy and God Games go hard for animation style. Ruthlessness as well but I personally like other ones

[@galacticsaz]

Yeah, I noticed that too.. Had to hit us extra hard huh? XD

[@Sal-edCaramel]

ONE OF US, ONE OF US, ONE OF US🎉

[@ten5h1]

ONE OF US!!! ONE OF US!!! One thing I love about various animatics is that they remember that Odysseus has a dog. I also love that the winions were so popular that various animators think one became Odysseus’ pet after a while.

[@galacticsaz]

That is so cute, honestly :')

[@DJOrbitDecker]

Distinct lack of Neal Illustrator animatics here! His stuff is crazy good, highly recommend

[@galacticsaz]

So I've been told! I'll have to look him up some time!

[@ZONALH]

Loved this reaction! (Kinda wish your friend didnt spoil as much but its fine) hopefully you come back when the final saga releases!

[@galacticsaz]

Oh, I definitely will! And I'm not too upset about the spoilers as Dark was super excited and I know it can be hard to contain yourself when that happens :')

[@therwbyfamilton8023]

Friends! We got another winion, You know the time has come! To Watch and see their shock!

[@galacticsaz]

POLITESSSSSS 😭😭

[@Dracon350]

"you'd think they listen" not when the man just blatantly showcased he's willing to sacrifice anyone so HE can get home. that, and they are literally starving. their thoughts during Mutiny are about immediate survival because that's all they can think of at this point.

[@galacticsaz]

Yeah, but at the same time, they've just been running from myths and Gods, I feel like it's a bit obvious that only bad things will happen if you try to kill an animal on an island that ONLY has a God's statue

[@Dracon350]

@@galacticsaz that's a fair assumption, especially after their encounter with Poseidon, but Eurylochus puts it best himself; "I'm just a man." he likely understands it's not a good idea, but he's starving, the crew's starving. even if they left now, would they even make it home? in his mind, it's either he dies for sure due to starvation, or he takes a chance here and kills a cow to keep them alive just a little bit longer. "Ody you know we're never gonna get to make it home," is Eurylochus acknowledging this, that they won't get back if they don't eat now. "People die like this". it's all a bad idea, but he just can't bring himself to care at this point. he's starving, his captain has betrayed him and the crew, and there's food RIGHT there in front of them.

[@galacticsaz]

Hm, I suppose so... I still don't think it's smart but I've also never been that hungry, so maybe I'd also be that dumb if I was that hungry XD

[@FuugaNatsu]

@@galacticsaz I'd like to add (and sorry if someone else mentioned this already, if they did I can't find it) in The Odyssey, Eurylohus (before going for Helios' cows) gives a speech that basically translates to "Starving is the worst death we can have now. We'll sacrifice it in Helios' honour and hope he accepts it. If he does, we'll build a temple for him when we get home and worship him there (essentially making him the new patron god of Ithica, instead of the current one which just so happens to be Athena). If he takes offense, at least we die a quick death. Still beats the alternative."

[@galacticsaz]

@@FuugaNatsu Oh, that's super interesting. I bet Athena would have been at least a little pissed.. She doesn't deserve that :( (At least from this musical's standpoint/representation of her)

[@ChibiCherub]

The standing theory is she SAW them sailing toward Ithaca and died of a broken heart when he was wrenched away from her again by the storm

[@galacticsaz]

Ok that's just heartbreaking 😭

[@ChibiCherub]

We love hermes trolling his great-great grandson

[@galacticsaz]

XD Hermes is great in this, not gonna lie

[@dgrmn12345]

1:18:07 there is no irony from Odysseus letting the Cyclops live to killing the baby who was far from innocent. At least not at present. Zeus himself prophesied that baby will grow up to kill Odysseus and his family and following through that horrible act will allow Odysseus to live a good old age with his family. In fact, killing that baby is what caused Odysseus to be more merciful as the story went on. At least merciful to the cyclops he blinded as a means of making up for what he did. At the same time, other heroes and kings in Greek Mythology who tried changing such fates ended up in misery and horror.

[@galacticsaz]

Hm, he did seem to be battling between going to the extreme and being merciful. ESPECIALLY after Polites... It's such good story telling! Loved every moment~

[@falgarshame8473]

Pay attention to Neal's animation, his ruthlessness, thunder bringer and god games are wonderful (chanel name Neal illustrator), and have a lot of references to myths (There you can notice that, for example, Ares tries to protect his family every time)

[@galacticsaz]

Ohh, that's some cool detailing! I'll have to pay extra attention next time I go through the playlist!

[@jacksonhunter9132]

We got another one winions! Welcome to the community

[@galacticsaz]

Thank you! I look forward to the next saga!

[@loganhill4612]

THE WINIONS STAY WINNING!!!

[@CookieCrisp0903]

Fun fact, i dont know if it was mentioned, but the voices of Circe and Odysseus are dating

[@galacticsaz]

I was told, yeah. I hope they're happy together ☺️ Everyone has such stunning voices~

[@Archangel1862]

Here two Greek mythology facts in one Greek origin myth (I think it’s one of Aphrodite’s but I have heard that it could be Pandora instead) women are a curse put onto men by Zeus, and a sad fact about everyone that died in the Odyssey are stuck on the wrong side of the River Styx because they never received the proper funeral rights. Here an Epic the Musical fact according to Jorge Circe and Hermes use to be in a relationship

[@galacticsaz]

Oh no, that kinda sucks :( Is there a way to like, properly hold a funeral for someone in ancient Greece even without the body or are they stuck? And yeah, I heard about the relationship XD It WOULD explain how she knew it was Hermes' magic instantly

[@Archangel1862]

@ Not that I know of

[@galacticsaz]

Man, that really sucks..

[@BorbinTeacup]

I see another winion has joined our ranks

[@MesoJoe]

odd how you ended up with the least accurate animatics to Jorge's ideas for Done For, since none of them either showed the chimera nor the cyclopes Ody summons from imagination

[@galacticsaz]

Is that what they summon? That's kinda cool info honestly.. All of the animatics are extremely well made, but I will admit there's some kind of bitter irony that Odysseus summons a cyclops

[@behindtheduck495]

this was so silly and fun :3

[@galacticsaz]

It really was!

[@Datsuni116]

Actually, Aeolus is BOY in a myths, so there's no "them" for him

[@winstonpham4809]

King of the aeoleon island

[@galacticsaz]

Are they? Sorry, I don't know much about Greek Gods :')

[@randomguy5638]

@@galacticsaz Aeolus isn’t even a god in the odyssey

[@galacticsaz]

@@randomguy5638 Oh really? Damn, I'm learning so much today..

[@defaultboy2369]

Apologies in Ancient Greece weren’t just saying sorry, apologies are more like justifying why you did what you did so Odysseus’ apology actually is an apology

[@galacticsaz]

Oh, I wasn't aware of that. My bad. I guess to me it just sounds like excuses so I don't know why he thinks they'd work XD

[@yuitrigger]

Ye just wanted to say that you listened to the updated music for horse and the infent & just a man the first time coz it was a combo video. And then you watched / listened to the old ones (it was a company issue). Just wanted to say that, it doesn't change much.

[@yuitrigger]

Also i would love it if you all react to more animatics from different people like ( Ruthlessness by AniFlamma and Neal Illustrator, Thunder Bringer and god games by Neal Illustrator too.

[@galacticsaz]

I will definitely be checking them out as a few people have mentioned them :) Gotten me excited about doing so XD

[@galacticsaz]

Oh, was it? I didn't honestly hear a difference but I'm not an expert on music or anything so I just accepted it XD

[@criminalchicken499]

Telling someone there is a plottwist is a spoiler 😭

[@galacticsaz]

I think everyone was just too excited XD I can't hold that against them

[@Bayleaf6399]

Kinda wished they watched the animations from Jorge's streams

[@galacticsaz]

Oh? He has animatics too??? Honestly, with how much people are enjoying this, I could make a new playlist with everyone's suggested animatics and watch them before the new saga.. 🤔 Something to think about

[@Bayleaf6399]

@galacticsaz Yeah you watched a couple of them, but switched to other videos. Not to say that the ones you watched were bad, but I just prefer the ones he used in his streams

[@galacticsaz]

Ah, that's fair

[@IsyThatWay]

I'm just at the beginning, but god, I really hope that "Always blame Eury" is a joke. The gods know that I'm not a fan of my boy E, but damn it if I'm not tired of this point of view about him... Yeah, the man made so many mistakes, but he's not more culpable than Ody, both didn't trusted, both made decisions that led all this men to death, I still think that Poseidon would kill all Ithaca anyways if they make it home... They are BOTH the human side of the responsibility for this men death. And Eury, a starving man with suicidal ideation at the end has total rights of to feel betrayed and rebel. I swear I really try don't be frustrated about others perspective of art, 'cause art are subjective but as a writer I feel like the people are just ignoring the hole point of the characters... Drives me crazy sometimes... Anyways, sorry for the vent in a very, very bad english... My grammar sucks cause I'm still learning

[@galacticsaz]

Honestly, your English is pretty good! Definitely on the rights tracks :) As for Eurylochus,, I can see what you're saying. Both of them fucked up a fair amount, but I don't think they'd necessarily have had to had Odysseus not given the Cyclops his name... The dumbass XD I think I remember Dark saying that it was meant to be Eurylochus that shot the sheep, meaning he started it all, but I don't think that was the moment honestly. They had genuinely not realised that there was a problem with their actions nor consequences, so I can't really fault them for that time. For the cow later? Yep. 100%. I get he was hungry but Jesus Christ bro, you've seen this moment before with the CYCLOPS and this empty island WITH ONLY A GODS STATUE is HELLA suspicious... Yeah, don't know if I'll get past that one XD Oh, he did open the wind bag as well though huh? That one's kinda shaky. Like, your captain and best friend tells you not to open the bag gifted to him by a God and you think "just a peek"? Just like Odysseus, he had moments of no common sense, but I don't think I'd blame him for everything..

[@comandantethorn9929]

ngl im a little tired of how everyone seems to empathize to everyone *but* Odysseus, hes been to war for 10 years, hes tired he was forced by Zeus God-King to kill a baby, hes tired of doing the smart thing just to please his gods thirst for blood, also the "they are gods" things is like, yeah sure, but theyre gods that act way too much like the worst kind of humans, you can imagine how hard it would be for someone with a spine to actually worship them because they want to and not because theyre forced to by whatever situation theyre in, also the fact that Athena is the goddess of wisdom and is trying to raise the perfect human warrior makes it even more non-sensical that she has zero concept of how to deal with human emotion.

[@galacticsaz]

Yeah, he's so freaking tired and it's understandable. Literally my only problem with Odysseus is that he was being so smart and getting away with it... Then told a mythical creature of unknown origin that he just maimed his name and address. Like, bro, please, there's a reason you called yourself "Nobody"

[@vali4634]

Who doesn’t that’s the main person I see people empathize for

[@mmpMultiversalMagicPolice]

Monster:🧍

[@galacticsaz]

Dude, that is one of my favourite songs XD Him just getting tired and accepting he needs to be harsher is so well done

[@user-qf8he7qd7f]

The criticism of Calypso often fails to acknowledge the extent to which original myths have been modified by the creator. For example, the narrative of Circe was significantly altered. While Calypso is not without flaws, depicting her solely as a heartless monster dismisses her viewpoint and the degree of deviation from the original myth. It is questionable whether she sexually assaulted Odysseus as described in the myth. Discussions and differing viewpoints on this topic are welcome.

[@galacticsaz]

The manipulation, with or without the physical contact, is hella toxic.. but I do think there's also the perspective that she was 100% suffering from loneliness and actually developed some MAJOUR issues. Does that excuse what she did? HELL NO! But we have to try and remember that there was a pained woman behind her actions

[@everxchosen6057]

Ya like there are some where are boy Ody was quite literally led to bed with her most of the nights and cried every time as well... he was used. And then there are others that he learned to love her and distracted himself by her company. Way more than just this with others as well, but an interesting take to see in this series.

[@galacticsaz]

It sucks whichever way we look at it. He's clearly suffering if him being by the edge of a cliff every day is anything to go by, and it honestly makes me want to try and comfort him somehow :') My only hope is that it gets better for him in the Ithica saga but I doubt it

[@tengenuzui8425]

Circe’s just a witch, punished by the gods. Also Hermes’ ex gf lol

[@dunningkrugerfxs5848]

She's definitely not "just a witch" She's a lesser goddess and daughter of Helios, the sun god.

[@galacticsaz]

Ok, I didn't know that last part XD

[@jacobjohnson1804]

ugh worst god games animatic in my opinion

[@galacticsaz]

Is there one you'd recommend?

[@LughguL]

@@galacticsazthe one by neal illustrator is the best one by a long shot imo

[@galacticsaz]

@@LughguL I'll be sure to check it out

[@ThXtsVnfortunXte]

Holy spoilers!

[@galacticsaz]

Spoilers? How so?