Reacting to Tyler, The Creator's Comments on ian & The Rap Game | Rap Life Review

[@ChrisJProductionz]

Tyler is 33, hes not that old, the rap game is just in a bad state. Back when Tyler came up in the 2010’s blog era, music at that time felt authentic and real and they had legit real stars like Tyler, Odd Future Asap Rocky/Asap Mob, Joey badass, mac miller, kendrick, jcole, drake, big sean, wiz khalifa, nipsey hussle, meek mill, travis scott, action bronson, Future, big krit, wale so Its crazy that Tyler is considered old when hes like 33.

[@Andrew.W.19]

That’s old to the fans Tyler is talking about (TikTok/Social media rap). In my 30s I was saying the same thing about Mumble rap and rappers like Lil Pump, I was called an “old head”. 7 years later same thing with Tyler in his 30s. “Old head” is just wiser and maturer. Natural progression.

[@DiorNicole]

Went right over your head. Old isn't talking about actual age. Old as in been in the game for enough time to feel the shift in hip hop. The newer seasoned artist are now articulating what the OG artist was saying a decade ago.

[@paulfernandez7141]

this is a young man sport, thats old

[@ishigirihayato]

​@@Andrew.W.19Getting older and wiser is great, it's getting jaded, closed-minded, and unwilling to evolve that "old heads" are often guilty of.

[@Donald06-c7k]

the term "Old head" is a vague term and not a literal term little billy.

[@JazzyLo]

This is my favorite music commentary show. I love the cast, the honesty and the chemistry amongst you guys. And everyone is genuine fans. ❤❤❤ it’s super encouraging for me to release my own content. - signed a lower level multimedia journalist from Memphis

[@theonlyejose]

Ian to Dicky to Rueban Segway was poetry🔥😂

[@96Dewon]

Ngl Eddie cooked on this episode 👌🏾

[@gronkel4158]

really, really liked this episode. the kind of debate I'd expect from top end media outlets and even my uni, but instead I'm getting from Rap Life Review, ha!

[@goldenchi1d228]

While I think the way Tyler goes about driving his statement is wrong, his point is 100% on the dot. We are definitely living in an age where the artistic craft of creating music in hip hop is now overlooked. The industry has doubled down on trend chasers and content creators that just want the bag instead of putting attention to detail. With Ian being a great example of this. While I’m sure the dude has no ill will to using the styles of Gucci Mane, Playboi Carti, and Future, his music is just…bad. Production, singing, lyrics, and song structure is all terrible. And it’s so bad that the music industry just accepts that trash than a Denzel curry or a Jpegmafia. We see this with 4bat and Ice Spice. If their heart is not with the art, then what point is there to keep them around? Their careers will come and go.

[@neo.5327]

I don't agree, these artists make money

[@005clips]

@@neo.5327money means nothing. you can’t even call people like ian “Artists”” if you don’t bring any aesthetic or taste of your own to the table, you’re closer to a hs kid acting like his favorite rappers than actually being one.

[@005clips]

well said.

[@tonylimbe3623]

Love these deep doves into rapper's lives beyond just the music, keep up the good work. From Malawi 🇲🇼

[@7vensoundz851]

How is it there? I was born in the US and never been but one of my parents was from 🇲🇼.

[@chrisburney1491]

2:14 LMAOOOO "IT WAS WACK" IM SCREAMINGGG MANS IS STANDING ON THAT HILL

[@keylinman36]

It was wack. Everyone feels it

[@MagickCandle]

I love Eddie opinions and thoughts on this episode

[@vincefree]

He distanced himself from his manager because his manager was against him releasing the album along with other things such as Chance’s family getting involved with the business. His manager helped him become who he was.

[@dijahmedi4882]

@ DJ Eddie - ouroboros. I learned this while watching an episode of Anthony Bourdain's 'No Reservation.' He got a tat of a snake eating its tail.

[@blangum]

excellent conversation this ep

[@stylelikemike]

Let me comment for once. Big Sean has nothing to prove to anyone. I’m with Ebro. We need to switch the conversation to appreciate these older artist as they age bc they the only ones that are releasing quality music anyways. Can’t have it both ways LO 👀

[@eltonsvosve7316]

RIP to beatking 😢

[@WhenSaraiSpeaksUListen]

Great episode overall. Def agree that almost every market is overly saturated and it’s hurting everyone.

[@kharisking]

Eddie was absolutely cooking this episode

[@kotalee2106]

lowkey could be the best actor of all time if he applied himself. the commitment to the "angry at Eddie because he changed after the olympics" bit was too believable.

[@jamalwilliams005]

I don’t think the consistency thing doesn’t apply to Sean. I think ppl just don’t resonate with his music like they used to. He’s still a top MC but ppl aren’t gravitating toward it. Kendrick is inconsistent but ppl still resonate with the songs he’s dropping

[@sevensaid]

This was a really really good episode.

[@theblkalien]

Excellent episode this week ✊🏾

[@BRIDGE3000]

The manager acting like that kid is actually special in ANY way is the most HILARIOUS part.

[@mhbarnes05]

Great episode!

[@ntsikatsotso4311]

Think music needs less commentators and more people making memories to the music .. simple .. the real over saturated market is podcasts

[@BornGiftedMusicGroup]

The music too

[@GaryWolf-v2w]

Very good point

[@JashJhaveri]

Ebro nice choice with the tigers eye bracelet 💯

[@briannaparker5830]

loved this conversation

[@jordiblu2131]

Great convo I always thought the same how Adele and Jessie J, Sam Smith shot up to number 1 off of black sounds and they are super talents but it clearly shows how the scale tips with the industry and consumers

[@raylunbarlow6911]

Starlinnnne chance is back !

[@r5klk]

Dope episode

[@jovenworldtv]

You right EDDIE its a OROBOROS.

[@Al-nz9tk]

I don’t understand the Big Sean discrepancies. The music is always at a quality level and provides bangers when he drops. Top 5 of his class

[@bencromwell707]

Dope Content As Always💯👍

[@bungle3912]

I agree with Tyler. Ian’s just acceptable blackface. It’s embarrassing.

[@tB-zq2db]

but yall let lil dicky (who said he’s using hip hop to act) and jack harlow who used hip hop to start acting slide..its yall fault

[@matthewfairchild3846]

Never been for any of these corny artists. Ian, Lil dicky, half of logic or Drake. 😂

[@kndsampled377]

@@tB-zq2dbnone of them try to sound black and they actually put Effort into there rhymes

[@joelleeverett408]

Im annoyed by the tyler segment because not one of yall acknowledged the fact that he did not ACTUALLY name drop ian. and i think that detail is important because if ian and his team got offended maybe it's because the shoe fits!

[@princemaziya7145]

Ebro so slick with the slight jabs.

[@Its_Keo]

If Chance had just kept going and made another album then the hate wouldn't have been so crazy. He stopped making music after that last trash album and let it sit and that's why we look at him the way we do now

[@Rockahfellahh]

great pod

[@kamoheloiannk617]

37:36 I think he's also speaking to the fact that y'all don't act like y'all aren't a monolith... Rapsody doesn't get the same love Sexyy Red gets the same love Megan gets you know... Like y'all were saying happy functional shit is corny WHY if we're not a monolith

[@THINK178]

Big boi needs more respect he's just as good a rapper as 3stacks

[@StueyJenkins]

“We”, as in Black people, reacted the same way when Bill Cosby criticized “us”… always hurts when it’s the truth

[@o_migl]

This need musicians have now for constantly releasing tracks, makes them more of "content creators" than "artists". In the end, it is a game of number/quantity over quality nowadays, like they're afraid the audience forgets about them and move on to the next "hot thing".

[@Gensis]

29:56 the white avatar episode lmao

[@fredrickbrown3253]

16:10 I love everything about this conversation. The market is saturated.

[@sammytvlu]

I see how they changed the nadeska outro 😂

[@SuperKillerdog]

Tyler is right!! Damn, how does someone from the suburbs sound like that. It is crazy, that stuff isn’t original.

[@freddie5ive]

Ebro saying they turned on chance after "how many projects that are heralded"... 1.5 lol

[@eklavyakaushal]

Can we normalisze calling white r&b artists blue eyed soul like we should. And leave R&B for people of color?

[@zaa10017]

everything you said about white vs black music isso accurate they rlly get away with using culture to their advantage whenever they feel like it

[@KioBriggs]

T.I is top 3 ATL rappers for sure! He may have 3-4 classic Rap/Hip Hop projects. KING 👑

[@xxiangel04]

Imagine the same Apple Music set up, rap life review, same idea with hosts, interviews, but Spanish rap

[@jayiswaveynyc1]

womp womp

[@queeniyahdayday2600]

Low key stole that dussePalooza chain😂😂😂😂😂

[@kevintj604]

This, that and the third

[@SterlingSanders]

Snake eating it's tail: Ouroboros (or-row-bore-us)

[@bencromwell707]

Who is Ian?🤔

[@kameronjohnson8949]

Ian x lil yatchy - hate me

[@bencromwell707]

@@kameronjohnson8949 yeah no thanks

[@vincefree]

He distanced himself from his manager because his manager was against him releasing the album along with other things such as Chance’s family getting involved with the business. His manager helped him become who he was. Ebro let’s not get into the habit of calling out hate as bots.

[@Bobbytheman98]

Man didn’t even mention Ian

[@MrMattCow]

if you listen to the interview it’s obvious that’s who he was referring to lol

[@queeniyahdayday2600]

No racism in this conversation 28:26

[@brandonwintpoetry]

where is Nadeska these days?

[@DanzaDes]

Ouroboros 😇

[@Atl_Boi_73]

It's the wild wild west with no control over good music. Everybody think they can rap. People getting on stage don't know the first thing about performing.

[@EmparaGwaan]

I thought this was desus and mero back together 😢🤣

[@dwele7852]

It's the COSPLAYING that boy has no experience in that vernacular

[@sp.2778]

“It’s more captivating when a white artist does it.” I think he meant to say more profitable 😂

[@Snuffmonk]

Ya'll be doing Eddie dirty. Let that man speak and stop cutting him off.

[@ndigogh]

Tyler referred to IAN but he never said “IAN” so if the shoe fits Boo

[@Atl_Boi_73]

Man, I just went and seen this boy video. This looks like it straight came from the show Atlanta. A white avatar. Whoever said this boy is not mocking Future is straight lying. They said they were going to start doing this. It's so simple to copy they rap styles they were going to get people they can control to mimick these rappers.

[@htdubski23]

Sounds absolutely nothing like future

[@osmosisbless]

Chance Big Day album was not wack, fight me

[@KhidrJoseph]

Doing things for the art not for the chart!

[@queeniyahdayday2600]

T.I.P will wash anyone in a verzus 42:29

[@soood3os]

where's Nebraska

[@Marketingmommy]

I don’t believe this bot conversation. Some people have cult followings. If this bot thing was real wouldn’t drake have been able to buy more than Kendrick to make him look better in the middle of this battle.

[@sheeshnotnice]

If Drake needs to take a break, why does Low keep paying attention to everything he does? Just seems weird to me.

[@savy_ie]

20:43 The ouroboros

[@Atl_Boi_73]

Unless you're a savant and you just think real quick, that's why this music comes out watered down.

[@Songboy3]

Interesting. This whole thing feels like a bunch of non-musicians telling 'us' what a musician should be. A lengthy and extended conversation by people who are talking about something they know nothing about.

[@23danidan]

My absolute favorite show for rap commentary… but y’all Interrupt the LA guy waayyyyyy too much 😅😅. I’m Just saying as a person who’s been watching for a while. Its been happening for a few episodes, but very noticeable in this episode. IJS

[@osmosisbless]

Man they cooked Michael Rubin and then bigged up Fanatics fest

[@iamkata]

lots of important insights. michael rubin bit was important for a lot of white people to hear. generalizations, especially regarding race/ culture, are ignorant and reductivist to supplement arrogance and privileges of perspective. loved lowkey's "who is we?! billionaires?!"

[@desi_no_aka]

Big tough "WHOS WE" yall at the fanatics shit is we lmao

[@Atl_Boi_73]

Now yall want to agree with Tyler now that he put yall on front street. I just said this last week that these dudes have been putting out BS. That's why Kendrick is in a league all by himself.

[@paulfernandez7141]

Buddy on the couch never listens to what someone is saying, just how they said it lol

[@BornGiftedMusicGroup]

The justin timberlake point made no sense Dude from the south but grew up on r&b and hiphop and if he choices to make a country style album how is that him leaving and coming back when it don’t work wtf u talking bout it’s like rihanna or beyonce making songs projects related to their life

[@ccathery]

Michael Rubin was spot on! We know it is some exceptions to the rule but can we please stop talking about the messenger because the MESSAGE was accurate for the vast majority!

[@PjMasks-qu6bb]

Too much hate on Michael rubin

[@Dgee_Reigns]

And Michael R should always remember not to say the truth about black people to black people. We complain about a lot of unnecessary shxt and there's way worse happening⚠️

[@queeniyahdayday2600]

T.I is not corny 😂😂😂 41:41

[@Brownskin_moses]

2 things can be true

[@Mismag78]

agreed. unfortunately he's paying the bills for everyone

[@garyp2053]

it goes back to Race records.

[@cg219]

Nobody thinks TI too high lol

[@amroelnour]

It happened to kid cudi

[@outb4thecount]

It was an ignorant remark the billionaire “nice guy” made period. He said “black culture” like specific to black people as a negative and then said “we” in a universal positive way? FOH 🙄

[@RooBooLouOochie]

Stop cutting them off bruhhh lol

[@charleeriverbear5153]

How y’all expect for Post to stay in the game when y’all disrespected him. Also an artist could do many things it was about a money grab.

[@gilcruz1479]

Ebro be thinking you finna have loyal fans after only one hot album...it takes couple for people to excuse or ignore a bad album. 69 and chance only had one hot album, don't blame fake numbers

[@Atl_Boi_73]

Luda and Big Boi are too low. They definitely got Sean P too low. Yeah, this that sh$% I'm talking about.

[@queeniyahdayday2600]

32:37 naw Ruben sit down your Jewish

[@bluenotez3234]

Drake NEVER lost a step the hate trend to fit in been corny giving FOLLOWER

[@magnifayamusic4364]

T.I was corny for life for signing that yt gurl

[@renesanchez652]

Tyler is in the cool old guy club… idk about Ebro. He’s stuck

[@bsandmg]

The gates are going to lock again and the height will be so huge