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This season is definitely a favorite of Capaldi's seasons so far with Paula our resident Whovian newbie!
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[@kellyliles9273]

"I didn't know your heart would rust because I kept it beating." Capaldi is the best at the hard hitting 1 liners.

[@numunu013]

I think it's his age. Just that it gives his delivery more gravitas.

[@baeleth]

A few years ago, I was at a convention for science and space travel. All entirely geared toward actual study, the current direction of space travel, etc. At one point, my friend and I heard what could only have been the TARDIS sound. Excitedly, we followed it to see where it was coming from. We couldn't find anything. Except, there was an empty roped off display stand that would have been the perfect size to hold the TARDIS. Yes we were grown thirty-something year old people. Yes we both had the same fun thought. And, yes, I think we both enjoy keeping that little bit of childhood alive by occasionally thinking "what if?"

[@nocturne8333]

This episode is horribly underrated along with Moffat as a whole and I will die on this hill.

[@firefly24601]

The villain in this episode kept me from fully enjoying it for a long time.

[@mjm3091]

@@firefly24601 same as the last episode to be fair - if they kept it fully historic, I feel it would be much better.

[@kellyliles9273]

I really think how you view this show and what you see as the actual story greatly changes how you view individual episodes. If you are watching this show as a purely sci fi show and looking at it in those regards you could gloss over this episode. For me the show is about The Doctor and his journeys (as a character as much as his journey through time). it is for that reason I really like episodes like this that give us such great moments where The Doctor comes to face the consequences of his choices. The Moffat era with Capaldi is my absolute favorite of the show (graned I am a "new Whovian" who is still going through the original).

[@chiffon788]

@@kellyliles9273 very well put. The Moffat era excelled at turning what would be average Monster of the Week stories into key moments in the Doctor and his companion's journeys. I think it's most apparent when comparing RTD's Christmas specials with Moffat's. RTD's are Doctor Who stories set at Christmas with a bit of festive flair, while Moffat's all feature the Doctor learning (or teaching) lessons about family and togetherness.

[@charliemersonwrightashby]

Fun Fact: The actor who plays Dean Thomas is the son of one of the FIRST EVER companions! - his dad is William Russell who played Ian Chesterton

[@paulkennedy8701]

Who's Dean Thomas?

[@adnandlala]

@@paulkennedy8701 A character from Harry Potter, played by Alfred Enoch

[@paulkennedy8701]

@@adnandlala OK. Thanks. Did they mention him in this video?

[@adnandlala]

@@paulkennedy8701 around 2:45 - 3:10 they talk about actors in Harry Potter. Thus the fun fact!

[@Skeezer66]

William Russell's son was also on the 1st couple of seasons of the ABC show, "How to Get Away With Murder".

[@MrBanankartong]

We're getting close to THE SPEECH

[@bmyattuk]

Which one? THERE ARE SO MANY

[@markrankin1094]

Not to be 'that bloke', but it's actually called 'The Woman That Lived'. The themes of aging and the loss of innocence make that change from 'Girl' to 'Woman' an important one.

[@kivimik]

The Doctor travelling with another immortal (or Time Lord) can potentially be toxic, but there is one exception: Romana. As a companion, Romana lasted nearly three seasons (and had one regeneration), but it was also more of a kind of master/apprentice type of relationship. She was the Doctor's intellectual equal, but still had some naivete.

[@LabradorIndependent]

Slightly surprised not to see the Jack reference included in the reaction

[@bbser]

Just wanted to say that Katrina's post "long way around" comment eyebrow raise did NOT go unnoticed lol

[@EForrest88]

Sam Swift, as played by Rufus Hound, british stand-up comic and devoted Whovian. He has since voiced classic Time Lord character the Meddling Monk in some of the Big Finish Doctor Who audio dramas.

[@noodlecat_]

Let us all remember Rory Williams, still technically older then the Doctor and didn't end up like Ashelider, Rory Williams 'the good man'

[@bemasaberwyn55]

Rory had a purpose as The Last Centurion. Ashildir didn't. Oh she tried to be normal......but like a certain omnipotent being......immortality is boring

[@markpatrick2735]

"you think you don't care, and then you fall off the wagon" , right?.what a line and I never noticed it before. also, the doctor speaks cat so I don't think it'd be an issue if you don't mind the cats choosing your destination sometimes.

[@staratlas7778]

There is a Certain episode this season, that I absolutely cannot WAIT, for Paula to witness and react to! 😅👏

[@bemasaberwyn55]

Her story is really depressing when you think about it. And GODDAMN is Maise a powerhouse in scenes like when she's in her gown. Her chemistry with Capaldi is SO great.

[@tenmark7055]

Capaldi saved this episode for me. The 6th Doctor wore a cat pin on his lapel and the actor used to perform cat poems at conventions. The 7th's Doctor last story (before the show was cancelled) featured cats opening portals to a world of cat people and if you stayed too long you turned into a...

[@brellnob]

Cat

[@Stuart_Cox1969]

The actor playing Sam Swift is actually the comedian, Rufus Hound, who is a massive Dr Who fan, to the point that he has a Dalek tattoo on his arm as well as others.

[@djashley2002]

He's also played an incarnation of classic Who character The Monk in a number of Big Finish productions.

[@schachmatt1581]

Season 9 is definitely my favourite. I love almost every episode. This season singlehandedly makes Capaldi my favourite doctor. Though Matt Smith is a very close second.

[@leeci33]

I have a cat that snuggles with my friends when I’m not in the room and then she gets up and runs away when I walk in. It’s so funny. LOLOL

[@PaulKeywood]

Well we know the 6th Doctor liked cats as he wore them as a brooch on his lapel🐈

[@Skeezer66]

Didn't the 8th Doctor have a cat companion?

[@dominiccarr4062]

The campaign for 14 to have a cat starts here!

[@ianpark1805]

We never did find out any more about ‘Percy the cat’ trailed before season 11!

[@mattgarrett2583]

Paula: "Come over here. I'll pay attention to you" Me: "Yay!.. oh.. you mean your cat.. that's fine!!"

[@dragonrune6800]

🤣🤣

[@TheDtroupe]

You are truly a whovian when you think you hear the Tardis and have that moment… 🤣😂🤣

[@sfisabbt]

14:08 I think the doctor would have conversations with your cats about you, you'd never know exactly what they say but i'd kinda feel like conspiring.

[@brianadkins3880]

Had forgotten last week's and this week's episodes were one right after the other. Believed there were several episodes in between before we saw Ashildr again. Obviously,I was mistaken and was thinking of...something else. Kept getting her name wrong too. Thought they were saying La Shield Ah. Darn British accents! The Doctor believed she would give someone else immortality and did not compensate for her becoming hard and arrogant -sound familiar? - and thinking no one was good enough for such a gift/curse. "The long way 'round" we have heard before. And will again. 18:15 Tongue action! lol I kid,I kid. ;-)

[@willadeefriesland5107]

The Sixth Doctor wore cat pins and the Seventh Doctor had a 'Tardis cat' in the Virgin Publishing novels...❤😻❤

[@gregweatherup9596]

I think this episode would of been better if it hadn’t been back to back with The Girl Who Died. Give us an episode or 2 in between before returning to Ashildr/Lady me.

[@brianadkins3880]

would have been

[@Mgooy]

Im sorry Brian if enough people say would of been, would of been is correct

[@Mgooy]

I had to come to terms with this hardest of truth's with "I could care less" Embrace the chaos of existence, drown in the meaninglessness of everything we hold dear, don't let people making grammatical error's in KZbin comment's rile you

[@rialiti3996]

well that's the thing with immortality, he could have let her anywhere in time and it still would have been the long way around for her. We are seeing it from our time but who is to say that in Doctor Who's universe the 2200s or the 3000s are even worst than what she had to live, if it's a part of life then, if she lives forever, she will live it forever.

[@dustinherk8124]

Paula's cat looks like a compact version of my grandma's cat. He's a lean 19 lbs, just with a massive frame for a tabby.

[@mattgarrett2583]

I love a Chonk.

[@davidmichaelson1092]

Makes me wonder...SOMETIME during the eternity of their lives, Ashildr and Jack MUST have come in contact.

[@dqixsoss7436]

Coming up on capaldi’s best speech 💙 excitedddd

[@rayharley597]

The Woman Who Lived could have made the perfect jumping off point for a spin-off series. kerk

[@deggsymarley]

Just seen Maisie Williams in TV show 2 weeks to live , brilliant dark comedy,

[@billthewhovian]

I like Sam Swift, he is well played by Rufus Hound, Ashildr has a good character twist, which I briefly mentioned last time as having being ruined due to a trailer which was on the Official Doctor Who KZbin channel which both of you, Paula especially, needs to avoid like the plague as it has both Classic and New Who clips any way in the trailer it showed Ashildr in this episode so when I saw her in The Girl Who Died, I put two and two together and guessed the whole immortal thing within the first 5 minutes of seeing Ashildr. There was a theory at the time that she may of been a regenerated Susan, which I was on board with as long as Carol Ann Ford came back for the regeneration scene and maybe a bit more, perhaps as a cold open thing but as we would all then The Girl Who Died aired and so when at the end of The Girl Who Died, it turned out I was right, that theory was put to rest.

[@ghostkage]

This episode was ok, although I kinda got the feeling the bad guy was a slightly better looking version of the Cowardly Lion

[@ianpark1805]

Where are you at with the virus where you are? Do you know how long it will be or even if you’ll get back to ‘single sofa’ reviews? Not that I mind the split screen versions - it’s sort of like watching Woodstock (one for the old hippies watching!) 😂😂

[@andrewfontana3136]

I doubt they really know what to do with Ashildir. Who is great at creating amazing characters but not following through with them. Hello Doctor's Daughter.

[@koletoday]

Sixteen year olds are so toxic, making an immortal one and letting it loose on the world was a horrible idea

[@oriyanbarnes]

Ahhhhhh next episode!!! (Or rather, next two episodes)

[@christianwise637]

Well, it had to happen eventually. Having seen what writer Catherine Tregenna (the first female writer to work on the show since 2008) did for the early seasons of Torchwood, this episode is a massive disappointment. I get what the story was going for, it was supposed to be a moody, quiet and introspective exploration of immortality and the negative impact of the Doctor's actions, and for what it's worth a lot of the dialogue between the Doctor and Ashildr is really well written and poetic. I especially love the final scene between them, in which they reach a kind of understanding and the Doctor stresses the importance of sharing experiences with the shorter-lived "mayflies", a monologue which I thought was really lovely and poignant. Both the lead actors give excellent performances too, with Maisie Williams getting a lot more to work with this time around and absolutely acing it, although there are points where she suffers from what I call "Anakin Skywalker syndrome", wherein I feel she comes across as overly whiny and unsympathetic. What really sinks this episode for me is the weird tonal shifts. It's likely a side-effect of Tregenna being more used to a darker and more serious drama, and feeling unsure of how to adapt her writing for a show with a more family-oriented demographic. The end result is that the moody and emotional drama keeps getting undermined by weird out-of-place comedy bits and slapstick routines, complete with over-the-top editing, broad comic performances (though I'd be lying if I said I didn't enjoy Rufus Hound as Sam Swift), and yet another jaunty "LAUGH NOW DAMMIT" soundtrack from Murray Gold. And then we get the elephant in the room...or rather the lion. What the hell is the point of Leandro? He's got to be the most unnecessary and superfluous villain in the history of the show, and his presence actively detracts from the story, turning the third act into a rushed and underwhelming alien invasion story. It's like if Tregenna wrote Torchwood's "Out of Time" and was like "hmm, I know what this script is missing - a giant squirrel monster!" "The Woman Who Lived" isn't the worst episode ever; hell it's not even the worst of Capaldi's era - that's still to come unfortunately. It is however, the most disappointing and full of missed potential. There's some decent compelling character drama here, but it's all undercut by some unnecessary goofy comedic sequences and one of the worst villains in the show's history. To tell you the Truth though, on the plus side, next week will be more interesting, and perhaps there'll some more exploration of earlier stories and their Consequences...

[@TheQuietReader1920]

What a brilliant comment, I really enjoyed your points about Ms Tregenna's other works! You're right though, this is an episode of two sides; a beautiful, poignant story of immortality and a poorly developed, monster-of-the-week run around. I'm on the camp of disliking Leandro, as he feels like a pantomime villain better suited to a more goofy episode. On the whole, I really love the good stuff in this story, I just wished it wasn't undermined continually by its wackier elements

[@darynvoss7883]

waiting for Sam Swift's reappearance

[@craigoconnor6662]

Love your hat.

[@Skeezer66]

I remember that the original reaction by the public was bad, mainly because of the lion alien with laser eyes, and the people who knew who Rufus Hound was finding him annoying.It's interesting to have all that talk about travelling with the Doctor but without Clara around. What would she have said?

[@w67M]

Lots of cats all around this episode!

[@Senkoau]

May I suggest you watch Enlightement from classic who to see a view of immortal beings born that way.

[@willadeefriesland5107]

It could be worse, she could live to the end of the universe...😉

[@rialiti3996]

Two video with Paula in one day with the one from her channel, well that's a lot ! ( + at least 2 live streams and "a table for one" on watch it played but who is counting ?)

[@firefly24601]

Things Get Dicey makes three!! (OK you basically said this already, oops)

[@greenscreenfx3117]

Ay my guy I made an intro for you and you didn’t even watch it ffs

[@mconnaghan]

Another bigger cat video!

[@firefly24601]

A Thundercat video!!

[@geoffmason7215]

wish you included the Harkness reference....only that one gripe ......FANTASTIC reaction otherwise