Reactors Reacting to ACHILLES VS HECTOR | Troy (2004)

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@ReactTV1
@ReactTV1 2 ай бұрын
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@gingerbaker_toad696
@gingerbaker_toad696 Ай бұрын
If every any of those people try to copyright claim you for using "their likeness", please let us know! Hope it doesn't happen at all and maybe i am too pessimistic, but it would just be too ironic... and you never know with some people..😅
@ReactTV1
@ReactTV1 Ай бұрын
@@gingerbaker_toad696 It's happened before which is why I stopped posting for a while. Now I only use clips that I can edit down to shorter than 2 minutes and I also try to limit how many videos I create for each movie or episode. I'll keep the community updated if it happens again and I feel like I'm fair in crediting the reactors (description and pinned comment) and the other stuff I said above so let's hope there's no issues going forward!
@gingerbaker_toad696
@gingerbaker_toad696 Ай бұрын
@@ReactTV1 oh man really?? Wtf that is just ridiculous. All they do is "using other people's work for their work"... i feel you are allowed to do the same with them. Some of them really are pretencious clowns. Would you mind share the names of the ones who did that? I promise i won't go there and make trouble, it's just out of curiousity
@UKSponge360
@UKSponge360 2 ай бұрын
Achilles is said to be the greatest warrior ever born. That in mind, the fact that Hector managed to draw the fight out for this long, and even land a hit just showed how great a fighter he was too. Achilles tells his father, Priam later on that "your son was the best I ever fought"
@ImTheDarkMessiah
@ImTheDarkMessiah Ай бұрын
But thats just a story from greece, from the greek war, achilles and hector are both unreal
@UKSponge360
@UKSponge360 Ай бұрын
@@ImTheDarkMessiah I agree tbh, both legends in their own right that just happened to be on opposite sides... Imagine how unstoppable they'd be as allies though!
@dazediss6629
@dazediss6629 Ай бұрын
I think you all read too much into the movie & the stories. From a historical standpoint this conflict is almost entirely conjecture and fantasy. Only the names of the people are real. We know absolutely nothing about them, or the conflict. The only way this story came to light was through Homer’s Iliad; which was written by Homer in and around 400-500 AD. The events of the Iliad happened in and around the first half of the 7th century BC. Meaning that the story is being told in pictures & poems from events which happened almost 1000 years before its author lived. Contextually it’s like someone born nowadays writing about the Battle of Hastings in 1066 - without the benefit of any modern historical or archeological findings. It’s essentially a collection of poems written about depictions of characters which were found on ancient stone & earthly versions of ceramics. The people & their names are correct but that’s all we know. Even the movie is ridiculously romanticised; it depicts Achilles as the greatest warrior of the Greek army when actually in the Iliad it’s Teucer - Ajax’ younger brother who isn’t even mentioned in this movie who kills more Trojans with his bow than any other Greek soldier. Achilles tends to be the more popular story because of his affiliation to Athena - the Greek goddess of war; who dipped him in the river Styx when he was born to immortalise him, she held him by his heel and the heel was the only part which didn’t enter the water, hence bring his weakness. As for Achilles fighting Hector, Agamemnon and Achilles hating each other, Achilles having a romance with Briseis….is all complete fantasy In historical terms it’s more likely from the texts that Achilles preferred the company of men and was considered to be romantically involved with Patroclus (his cousin). Also that Nestor was much more in command of the Greek army rather than Agamemnon, even though he’s only pictured once in the movie at the start; telling Brian Cox that the Greeks need Achilles. The most prominent characters from the Iliad are generally brushed over in the movie. It says virtually nothing of the 9 gods who appear in the Iliad; Athena, Ares (spoken of), Hades, Hermes, Apollo (spoken of), Hephaestus, Eris, Artemis, & Aphrodite. It also says nothing of Hecuba, Chryseis, Cassandra, Thersites, Polydamas, Pandarus, Dolon, Glaucas, Polydorus (the greatest warrior of Troy), Phoenix, Agenor of Troy, Diomedes, Euphorbus, and many more.
@UKSponge360
@UKSponge360 Ай бұрын
@@dazediss6629 I see you, but the story is myth, and as such is widely open to interpretation
@scottb3034
@scottb3034 29 күн бұрын
@@dazediss6629 You lost all your credibility in this dissertation the MOMENT you asserted Homer wrote this 1200 years after he was born. The man was born around the time you assume Iliad takes place. Which is also wrong based on the prevailing thought. If the Iliad was an account of true events the events are purported to be centuries, not a millennium, before Homer's birth in the 8th century BC. Moreover it is laughable to assert the names are real. The only things that are seemingly real is the city of Troy and the Grecian peoples. Athena did not dip Achilles in the Styx, Thetis his mother did. Additionally, I don't know what version you read, but Achilles had a Briseis as a mistress who was taken from him by..... Agamemnon which ticked Achilles off.... Patroclus and Achilles were not portrayed as lovers in Homer's epic, only in later poems and writings by other Greeks and there is no historicity of Achilles nor Patroclus. Lastly the Iliad ends with the funeral of Hector after he was eliminated from life by..... you guessed it Achilles. You are mixing up your words. You don't mean "the most prominent characters are brushed over" you mean "most of the prominent characters are brushed over" because if you meant the former you are truly clueless. You know absolutely NOTHING about the Iliad or Homer. It is shocking that you are lecturing so strongly with that being the case. Then again they say the loudest and most adamant are the most lacking in knowledge. Next time save yourself the embarrassment and don't preach what you don't know.
@memecity9849
@memecity9849 2 ай бұрын
Fun fact: Brad Pitt and Eric Bana did not use stunt doubles. They made a gentleman's agreement to pay for every accidental hit. $50 for each light hit, $100 for each hard blow. Pitt ended up paying Bana $750. Bana didn't owe Pitt anything
@slowswimmer9169
@slowswimmer9169 2 ай бұрын
poor Eric 😅
@EddieLove
@EddieLove Ай бұрын
Is this true? Lol
@memecity9849
@memecity9849 Ай бұрын
@@EddieLove apparently so lol
@Reicchet
@Reicchet Ай бұрын
Shows us Bana was actually the better fighter.
@Abrokensword
@Abrokensword Ай бұрын
It's a neat story bit there are literally stunt doubles in the actual sequence. Slow down the leaping stab Achilles makes that sends Hector staggering and tell me that's Brad pitt in that cut.
@hoshinoutaite
@hoshinoutaite 2 ай бұрын
"There can be no covenants between men and lions, wolves and lambs can never be of one mind, but hate each other out and out an through. Therefore there can be no understanding between you and me, nor may there be any covenants between us, till one or other shall fall and glut grim Ares with his life's blood." - Achillies, to Hector, from the Illiad
@deedeeschway9566
@deedeeschway9566 2 ай бұрын
I find it neat how this reflects how Achilles moves in the beginning of the fight when he tests Hector and just jogs away after. I really see a lion just testing his prey head on but distancing himself for another, more calculated strike. The fight is very well done but Achilles is not struggling at all. He’s very much the predator in this fight.
@shykorustotora
@shykorustotora Ай бұрын
I'm glad they didn't portray the fight like in the Illiad, with Hector running away, crying and screaming and only fighting because he gets cornered. Also would've sucked to see Achilles only win because the Gods rigged the fight and helped him win
@magicmike7198
@magicmike7198 2 ай бұрын
That's what I loved about this sequence: the inevitability. Hector fought proudly and with honor. Given that we're in Hollywood, you'd think that maybe, just maybe... But no. It's Achilles. You can't win. It was over before it even began. On a simple narrative level, this sequence had been prepared from the beginning of the film when Achilles killed the juggernaut in a single blow.
@laquanthedon1
@laquanthedon1 2 ай бұрын
The way he was kind of stalking him throughout the fight was like watching a lion or wolf hunt and was such an interesting way of showing from the being how this was going to go from his line "there are no pacts betweenlions and men". The saddest part is how this was all entirely his brothers fault and the way he knew he was going to die and Troy was going to fall
@goodguyaus
@goodguyaus 2 ай бұрын
I have seen this scene countless times; I still pray and side with noble Hector each and every time. He did not deserve a cowardly brother like that.
@LeeCarlson
@LeeCarlson 2 ай бұрын
Mythically, Achilles was invulnerable to all forms of damage, except for a small spot on his heel, where his mother held him while dipping him in the river Styx.
@Strychnine1276
@Strychnine1276 2 ай бұрын
The movie did a good job portraying how and why that myth came to be.
@LeeCarlson
@LeeCarlson 2 ай бұрын
@@Strychnine1276, very much so. Watching Achilles dodge and evade incoming attacks without using his shield definitely did that.
@quasimotto8653
@quasimotto8653 2 ай бұрын
Hence, where the term "Achilles tendon" (on the back of the heel) comes from. I'm not sure what it was called before Achilles time. 😅😅
@Strychnine1276
@Strychnine1276 2 ай бұрын
@@quasimotto8653 probably lower leg tendons n lol. Great summation!
@quasimotto8653
@quasimotto8653 2 ай бұрын
@@Strychnine1276 True! That would make sense! LOL
@kalohaggard1729
@kalohaggard1729 2 ай бұрын
This movie really nailed the two most powerful moments ; the battle between Hector and Achilles , the retrieval of Hector from Achilles by Priam .
@wartyrant8627
@wartyrant8627 Ай бұрын
That second moment tho. Damnit Priam 🧅
@jonathanbradley4896
@jonathanbradley4896 12 күн бұрын
This movie had flaws, but the casting (for the most part, i wasn't crazy on Pitt and Bloom but I guess handsome men sell tickets), music, and certain scenes like these ones are incredible. The movie suffered from being too long (they took "epic" too literally) with bad pacing at times, and I think Pitt deserves criticism for a very wooden performance at times, although that may have been the directors intent, to make Achilles not seem entirely human. Also some of the writing is ridiculously corny.
@hulkslayer626
@hulkslayer626 2 ай бұрын
Favorite part of that fight is when Achilles removes his helmet, Hector does as well. And when Hector drops his shield, Achilles leaves his behind. The both fight honorably one on one and don't want to win because they had an advantage over the other.
@dude8273
@dude8273 2 ай бұрын
it was more like belittling him. i don't need this or that to defeat you kind of attitude. he drags his body behind his chariot after the fight, meaning he doesn't respect him at all.
@hulkslayer626
@hulkslayer626 2 ай бұрын
@@dude8273 But Hector does it as well...
@UKSponge360
@UKSponge360 2 ай бұрын
same as when Hector trips over the stone, Achilles back off and waits for him to get back to his feet
@CarBENbased
@CarBENbased Ай бұрын
Both are a factor, honorable fighting and lack of respect. But the REAL reason I think is shown in the line "I'll not have a stone take my glory." Achilles wants to be remembered for his greatness, and he wants no excuses in the story when it's told like "well you only beat him because he tripped on a rock and dropped his shield and you still had yours.".
@shykorustotora
@shykorustotora Ай бұрын
This also contrasts with King Menelaus saying in regards to Paris "I'll kill him at your feet, I don't care!" showing Menelaus (and by extension Agamemnon) and Achilles couldn't be more different in the manner of which they fight
@ThanxNo
@ThanxNo 2 ай бұрын
Achilles doesn’t die until slightly prior to the siege of Troy after a duel with the warrior Memnon when Paris takes a cheap shot into his heel
@Superion74
@Superion74 2 ай бұрын
I remember reading somewhere (I think it's The Iliad) that it was Apollo who guided Paris' arrow to the heel of Achilles because Achilles had desecrated his temple when they invaded Troy.
@misterlonely2003
@misterlonely2003 Ай бұрын
I was soooo happy in that moment 😂
@CarBENbased
@CarBENbased Ай бұрын
I love the choreography in this scene. While it might not be entirely realistic, the liberties they took show just how incredible these legendary figures are supposed to be. They are equally matched in the beginning, or at least nearly so, in training and skill if not in raw power. Hector actually has a chance early on in the fight, but as it drags on Achilles true strength shows in that he just doesn't get tired. As Hector starts to slow and stumble Achilles has barely slowed at all, he's not even really winded at the end of it.
@cassiusclayreels
@cassiusclayreels 2 ай бұрын
Crazy watching these reactions and how some of the reactors have new partners now lol
@sandrakiefler4649
@sandrakiefler4649 2 ай бұрын
Definitely one of my top 10 favorite movies of all time and this is my favorite part of the movie! 😉👍😅 Thanks my dude!
@lukewestwest
@lukewestwest Ай бұрын
“You wont have eyes tonight, you wont have ears or a tongue, you will wander the underworld blind, deaf, and dumb. And all the dead will know, This is Hector, the fool that thought he killed Achillies” 👊🏼💪🏼. -One of the hardest/toughest things ever said to your opponent before killing them.
@carmenmonroe7
@carmenmonroe7 2 ай бұрын
I love this one on one fight sequence so much!❤ I always hate that Hector dies though!
@rodlepine233
@rodlepine233 2 ай бұрын
Achilles takes his vengeance a step further, and drags Hector's body from his chariot around the walls of Troy.
@jessicae.6995
@jessicae.6995 Ай бұрын
The way Achilles strategically and very sneakily grabs at Hector's broken arrow/stick near the end and snags it. Boom.
@jeremybr2020
@jeremybr2020 Ай бұрын
I remember when this movie was still in production, and it was announced that Brad Pitt would be taking the role of the iconic Achilles. Most people were skeptical and even mad. How could Brad Pitt take such a role? He wasn't big enough to pull off a convincing Achilles. Holy crap, did he silence the critics when this movie came out. Not only did he pull off the role, now its impossible to imagine anyone else playing the part.
@mtverv
@mtverv 2 ай бұрын
The Iliad also goes to great pains to keep letting the reader know how good of a warrior Hector actually was in that it says if Achilles wasn’t a Demi-god than Hector would have beaten him but that that a fully human man could never best a god in combat. Great scene here. I kind of wish they would have shown more than just a cut on Achilles armor though. Have him take an actual blow before shifting up a gear to finish the fight.
@cindyball6998
@cindyball6998 2 ай бұрын
My favorite Brad role after Legends of The Falls.
@jessicae.6995
@jessicae.6995 Ай бұрын
That movie is LEGIT and does not get enough watches or credits that it deserves! Man, the acting...the score. Beautiful and yet tragic movie ❤
@markgittins-j6f
@markgittins-j6f 27 күн бұрын
Snatch, he’s awesome
@kerry-j4m
@kerry-j4m 2 ай бұрын
GREAT fight scene from a-GREAT-film.
@estanol21
@estanol21 Ай бұрын
Nobody noticed that Héctor before the cut in his legs was so tired already and Achilles still was full energy
@silverninja481
@silverninja481 Ай бұрын
Well they did show Achilles panting a bit
@jimmybobsap8729
@jimmybobsap8729 2 күн бұрын
She my sense of humor lol when see Wesley he pay his taxes lol😂
@BClarke
@BClarke 2 ай бұрын
So not one reactor knows the story of the Trojan War? Mary at least had some frame of reference for it.
@shykorustotora
@shykorustotora Ай бұрын
George from CineBinge does actually know the full story. He actually comments about how he thought the Gods were going to be involved a lot more, like in the story, but understood they were going for a more realistic approach, though to him, it did make it feel like some characters acted very randomly
@danknado97
@danknado97 6 күн бұрын
In Greece we learn the Illiad at school
@erichebert5824
@erichebert5824 2 ай бұрын
lol clearly a lot of these reactors haven't read "The Iliad" because even though this film was GROSSLY inaccurate, Achilles does kill and drag Hector in the original story.
@janusz_sosnowski
@janusz_sosnowski Ай бұрын
Muricans😅
@thedonzo506
@thedonzo506 Ай бұрын
@@janusz_sosnowski Blame the education system, we didnt ask for this xD
@Strychnine1276
@Strychnine1276 2 ай бұрын
I still root for Hektor each time I watch this fight. He was such a great warrior, leader, and man. But unfortunately still just a man. Achilles was a demigod. Yet Hektor scored a hit in hm. So you could actually say that Hektor was the greatest fully HUMAN warrior ever to live.
@talkshow69
@talkshow69 2 ай бұрын
Except he was a dick human as well. Keep in mind Hector is a prince, an adult, the same adult who reprimanded his brother for bringing war to Troy's shores, and his father, for allowing it to happen. So a man like that shouldn't be so careless and let his ego allow him to strip Achilles' armor off a boy who let visions of glory and violence cloud his mind so much that he'd take pleasure in humiliating Trojan soldiers.
@forwardtranslator6083
@forwardtranslator6083 2 ай бұрын
@@talkshow69it was a sign of respect and reverence to take a worthy enemy’s armor. That’s why the Greeks fought for Achilles’ armor in the Iliad. Also, he was in the right to reprimand both Priam and Paris, cause the latter causes a war they couldn’t win and the former allowed it.
@edwardhannah8507
@edwardhannah8507 Ай бұрын
"I won't let a stone take my glory." No, but a single arrow to the heel will.
@yanniszaxaro
@yanniszaxaro Ай бұрын
React TV .. the important SCENE is the meet up of Achilles and the KIng in his Tent to take his sons body
@JulietteFaxx-s3p
@JulietteFaxx-s3p Ай бұрын
Our beautiful sweet dear Aryana from Diegesis. ❤
@serlotsadoe
@serlotsadoe 2 ай бұрын
Seen this movie quite a few times why did I just notice watching this reaction that Priam faints 😂👀
@mickchertov7926
@mickchertov7926 Ай бұрын
I don't think he faints in the original/theatrical version. I feel like most of these reactors watch the directors cut
@serlotsadoe
@serlotsadoe Ай бұрын
@@mickchertov7926 ahhh ok makes sense 💯
@frankgesuele6298
@frankgesuele6298 2 ай бұрын
All this so Paris could have his prize. So true.😠
@shykorustotora
@shykorustotora Ай бұрын
True but Agamemnon would've just found another excuse to invade. This was all inevitable
@frankgesuele6298
@frankgesuele6298 Ай бұрын
@@shykorustotora But when & what for timing is so important.
@Yoriichi_Sengoku
@Yoriichi_Sengoku Ай бұрын
As a child, I was happy Achilles won that fight because he's the main character of this movie. When I hit adulthood, I feel sad for Hector. Hector is a good man, he loved his family and he fought for his country. It was just unfortunate for the Trojan prince to have lived the same time as Achilles.
@misterlonely2003
@misterlonely2003 Ай бұрын
I always hate Achilles 😂
@jimmybobsap8729
@jimmybobsap8729 2 күн бұрын
I legit bet Honda odyssey sales went up
@JerryScott-f9w
@JerryScott-f9w 2 ай бұрын
Funny how a great warrior only gets a tendon named after him😂
@reigngeek9898
@reigngeek9898 2 ай бұрын
While Ajax gets a dish soap 😂
@JerryScott-f9w
@JerryScott-f9w 2 ай бұрын
@@reigngeek9898 if you thought Achilles got a bum deal you should hear about his younger brother Taint and his cousin Scrote 😛
@suflanker45
@suflanker45 Ай бұрын
Well the term "Achilles Heel" has gone down in history as the universal term for someones or somethings weak spot.
@femijon777
@femijon777 Ай бұрын
One of the Baddest fights in history.
@jimmybobsap8729
@jimmybobsap8729 2 күн бұрын
What is funny and sad is most don’t know Homer besides Simpsons
@christopherking4932
@christopherking4932 2 ай бұрын
Amazing video.
@alexwhite5697
@alexwhite5697 Ай бұрын
We all knew how this was gonna end, but i feel most people that don't know the history wanted Hector to win.
@Margot4454
@Margot4454 2 ай бұрын
Achilles was (almost) impossible to kill : 1) he was a son of son of the Nereid Thetis and Peleus, king of Phthia and famous Argonaut, so much better than a ordinary human 2) the most important, his mother bathed him in The River of Death - Styx making him impervious, impenetrable to weapons so nobody could hurt him. However, the mother bathed him keeping his heel - that was his only body part that was like a regular human warrior's. Hence "Achille's Heel" meaning the weakness. The brother of killed here Hector, Paris, avenged him - he shot Achilles in the heel with an arrow and killed him. I have corrected my post after a couple of very helpful remarks from the viewers.
@padurarulcriticsicinic4846
@padurarulcriticsicinic4846 Ай бұрын
The river Styx, if i remember correctly.
@Margot4454
@Margot4454 Ай бұрын
@@padurarulcriticsicinic4846 yes, thank you ! It was The River of Death, Styx.
@Ahdokobo
@Ahdokobo Ай бұрын
I thought it was his mother that was a goddess. She was some water goddess or something, while his father was a hero.
@Margot4454
@Margot4454 Ай бұрын
@@Ahdokobo Right, I have to correct my post. " son of the Nereid (!!) Thetis and Peleus, king of Phthia and famous Argonaut". Nereid, and that explains it. Thank you.
@gintokimaster
@gintokimaster 2 ай бұрын
I respect Hector but Achilles is the G.O.A.T
@misterlonely2003
@misterlonely2003 Ай бұрын
No hector is goat
@danilocruz2484
@danilocruz2484 Ай бұрын
Rei Davi jamais perderia essa batalha.
@adenauerlemos7926
@adenauerlemos7926 3 күн бұрын
I read the Iliad and the Odyssey, and even though Achilles was worshiped as a god, the only honorable men in this story were Hector and Odysseus.
@fotisa1
@fotisa1 21 күн бұрын
These guys think its brutal that Achilies dragged Hector's body... What they don't know is that he dragged his body around the city of Troy for 12 days straight....
@degenratex4834
@degenratex4834 2 ай бұрын
When you look at this fight this is all because of pairs gave the golden apple to Aphrodite all because she promise him that he will marry Helen
@andrewpiltenko9432
@andrewpiltenko9432 Ай бұрын
It's so much better in the Theatrical version with the original soundtrack.
@alexcubas8303
@alexcubas8303 24 күн бұрын
AQUILES era un semi dios y solo peleaba por gloria ofama, vanal y egoista, pero el principe HECTOR era un hombre honorable que prefirio pelearle uno a uno cuando pudo dejar que le tiren flechas o mandar a un ejercito, Hector luchaba por su pais, por su familia el verdadero Heroe es Hector
@whiskybooze
@whiskybooze 5 күн бұрын
I don't want anyone to get hurt...lol...its war.
@nitrokid
@nitrokid Ай бұрын
Achilles is different, man. He pulled up to your hood alone, no entourage no nothin 😂 Compare it to people today, settling beef with rap music.
@williamsummerson1204
@williamsummerson1204 2 ай бұрын
Achilles is that dude.💪
@orchard1990
@orchard1990 2 ай бұрын
first, i feel like Achilles
@yanniszaxaro
@yanniszaxaro Ай бұрын
* If Iliad was made to a movie as it is writen only 5% of the people would be able to watch the splattter
@yanniszaxaro
@yanniszaxaro Ай бұрын
all that was in Homer Iliad
@venturavalentin4450
@venturavalentin4450 2 ай бұрын
En la historia de Homero Aquiles mata a Héctor atravesandole la garganta con la lanza y Héctor antes de morir le pide a Aquiles que lo entregue a su familia para que lo lloren obviamente Aquiles no lo hace
@pearlclutch8491
@pearlclutch8491 2 ай бұрын
Ash is the best!
@darrylkaopiojr.8883
@darrylkaopiojr.8883 Ай бұрын
Achilies was a far better warrior than Hector. But Hector was a far better man. Hectors motivations to fight was the need to protect his family and his people. Not bloodlust or glory.
@GrahamWillis-of4md
@GrahamWillis-of4md Ай бұрын
I love this fight but the last hit with spear Hektor could have just lunged and he would have ran him through hollywood seems obsessed with spinning in sword fights its like when he slices the armour and stops immediately like what are you doing take every chance the guy is out to kill you dont back down.
@kobeslaughter4671
@kobeslaughter4671 26 күн бұрын
Tbf they wanted to spice up the fight because the actual one is very anticlimactic 😂
@roccolongo8012
@roccolongo8012 Ай бұрын
Fact is absolutely funny to see ppl in my generation that not know nothing about history and ancient poem…..classic USA
@kobeslaughter4671
@kobeslaughter4671 26 күн бұрын
It's because that's not really important to us. If you enjoy this type of history, you're gonna dig into it. Hate to burst your bubble, but a story written by a dude almost 1500 years after the events happened isn't really history, it's a campfire song. Americans dont really study ancient poetry in school, if i remember correctly it's mainly Shakespeare, Edgar Allen Poe, Emily Dickenson and Walt Whitman. If you wanna learn about Classical Greek in America you go to college for it, or you pick that class in high school.
@misterlonely2003
@misterlonely2003 Ай бұрын
Hector was a real man not like Achilles bastard😂
@kevin982
@kevin982 2 ай бұрын
This is one Brad Pitt movie where I didn't like Brad's character.
@rancidmarmot1994
@rancidmarmot1994 2 ай бұрын
How can you not like Achilles!?
@kevin982
@kevin982 2 ай бұрын
@@rancidmarmot1994 Easy. He was arrogant and what he did to Hector was hugely disrespectful. He was, according to legend, was immortal and the only place he could be harmed was his achilles.
@rancidmarmot1994
@rancidmarmot1994 2 ай бұрын
@kevin982 He was the consummate warrior, and it's not arrogance if you can back it up, it's confidence. Hector got in over his head. I would argue he was the arrogant one believing he was capable of facing Achilles.
@kevin982
@kevin982 2 ай бұрын
@@rancidmarmot1994 Why have confidence when you are immortal. Doesn't make sense. Hector was also a great warrior but he had more to lose and he was mortal. It was Achilles cousin who was at fault for pretending to be Achilles.
@jwdathefax377
@jwdathefax377 2 ай бұрын
@@kevin982Just know that not many would agree.
@Lars-v5x
@Lars-v5x Ай бұрын
That is a Moment i don´t like in the Movie. Hector was the Good man and Achilles was an arrogant Prick.
@WarisChuck
@WarisChuck Ай бұрын
That is kind of how the story goes. In fact, here they change the story by showing Hector as brave when facing Achilles. In the Illiad, when Achilles goes in search for Hector to fight him, Hector is so terrified of Achilles that he runs away with Achilles chasing him. Only after running around the city three times a literal god tells Hector to stop running and face his fate.
@misterlonely2003
@misterlonely2003 Ай бұрын
​@@WarisChuckgo fight with immortal bitch then 😂
@seansimms8503
@seansimms8503 Ай бұрын
😂do yall study Greek Mythology anymore? The outcome was never really in question, its a mortal vs Achilles, might as well be Hector vs Hercules.
@kobeslaughter4671
@kobeslaughter4671 26 күн бұрын
I remember after watching the movie as a kid I got really into this time period and started reading the Illiad and was so hyped for the Hector vs Achilles fight just for it to be over in less that 5 moves 😂. Even Athena wanted Hector dead 😂
@Mebirduwine
@Mebirduwine Ай бұрын
All this because of his coward selfish brother
@Thestomachlover
@Thestomachlover Ай бұрын
8:00 wrong Paris did avenge his brother 14:28 this dude is a clown
@victoriusrex25
@victoriusrex25 Ай бұрын
In some versions I always imagined that it was Apollo in Paris' form
@LuisSandoval1138
@LuisSandoval1138 Ай бұрын
The director's cut is a shitty version. The music in the original cut by James Horner is so good. Just percurssion. But in the director's cut... Danny Elfman's Planet Of The Apes Theme. WTF!!!
@blazingflameable
@blazingflameable Ай бұрын
Is there a reason why you keep blurring shit out?
@JimmyGinting-u7w
@JimmyGinting-u7w 3 күн бұрын
Hector ; i.m die
@BigDic-qz8su
@BigDic-qz8su Ай бұрын
A whole city destroyed because of fragile male ego. Couldn't take she wanted someone else
@shykorustotora
@shykorustotora Ай бұрын
In the Iliad it makes a lot more sense why getting Helen back is a BIG deal, but what they went for in the movie works too
@Superion74
@Superion74 2 ай бұрын
While I love this movie, I wish they didn't decide to leave all the Greek gods out of the story because the gods were very influential in the outcome of the battle of Troy.
@lessthanbrilliant3672
@lessthanbrilliant3672 2 ай бұрын
Interesting. One of my favourite aspects of the film is how it strips away the mythological elements and tells the story as an atheist tale. Hector, for example, is a man who understands there are no gods coming to save us. We can either give in to despair or fight back against impossible odds.
@eastwaters4082
@eastwaters4082 Ай бұрын
The movie would’ve been a lot longer if it had Greek gods, for the sake of telling the story of Troy through human eyes, they did it right.
@shykorustotora
@shykorustotora Ай бұрын
True but at the same time, the Gods constantly intervening would've removed all the tension. This fight in the movie between Hector and Achilles is tense and sad, while the fight in the Iliad is basically a joke, with Hector running away and the fight basically rigged because Athena hands Achilles an extra spear. It would've been lame in comparison
@shykorustotora
@shykorustotora Ай бұрын
I hate the Directors cut of this fight. The drums and vocals in the theatrical are SO much better than the weird triumphant music while Achilles brutally drags Hector behind his chariot. Worst possible music change I've ever seen
@BrandonHaymon
@BrandonHaymon Ай бұрын
I agree
@manalishabarman5526
@manalishabarman5526 Ай бұрын
You know saw a reel the other day where Piers Morgan was asking why are we not letting our society lose. It's important to lose in order to succeed. Schools are honouring kids in races who doesn't finish podium with medels just to boost his moral and self esteem. I didn't understand the bigger picture fully as to what he's referring to but after seeing the support for Hector in this fight I think I see it. It's Achilles, the best to ever do it. Even Hector himself knew that he's doomed. What the fak are you guys blabbering about
@rpsnider85
@rpsnider85 Ай бұрын
Anyone find it weird that Helen is supposed to be this rare beauty, the most beautiful woman in the world, yet Hectors wife fucking CLEARS her with zero difficulty.
@TheDarkhorse386
@TheDarkhorse386 2 ай бұрын
Where are all the good reactors?
@Je-jx6rn
@Je-jx6rn 2 ай бұрын
Hector only lasted that long because Achilles was toying with him.
@shykorustotora
@shykorustotora Ай бұрын
Achilles could've killed him sooner but it wouldn't have been fair, defeating the purpose of proving Achilles was the best fighter in the world. He wanted to insult Hector, partly by showing how inferior Hector was to him so taking a cheap shot would've proved nothing. Mind you, in the Illiad, Hector was a baby and ran way and only fought when cornered. And the fight was super lame. Achilles threw a spear and missed, so Athena handed him a second one and this time he didn't miss.
@misterlonely2003
@misterlonely2003 Ай бұрын
Hector is a real mortal man
@chambatips3619
@chambatips3619 Ай бұрын
Reaction Mashup is better
@williamsummerson1204
@williamsummerson1204 2 ай бұрын
Achilles is that dude.💪
@misterlonely2003
@misterlonely2003 Ай бұрын
He was bastard
@Strychnine1276
@Strychnine1276 2 ай бұрын
I still root for Hektor each time I watch this fight. He was such a great warrior, leader, and man. But unfortunately still just a man. Achilles was a demigod. Yet Hektor scored a hit on him. So you could actually say that Hektor was the greatest fully HUMAN warrior ever to live.
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