'Reacts' Backflipped a Nissan!

[@andrefischer5025]

Seatbelts- spot on! To avoid the “seatbelt stuck when on an angle”, I have a peg clipped to my sun visor- before I take the seatbelt off, I clip that to the top of the seatbelt preventing it from retracing. When getting back into the car I can put the seatbelt back on and take the peg off.

[@peterj5751]

That’s a great idea. What sort of peg?

[@andrefischer5025]

@@peterj5751 clothes peg

[@warp2288]

What an incredible car, look at all that pressure on the roof at a very single point on that rock it kept its integrity and did not protrude into the cabin area. This is what kept the driver alive.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Good point

[@michaelleggatt4250]

Thats what will happen with no lightbar.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Lol

[@123-o8u1j]

I do alot of wheeling and overland in Colorado. I dont bring the kitchen sink and keep everything low in my truck. Light is better and slow is too. If you cant make it winch its better than a roll. Love this channel great info on how to stay safe.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Thanks for sharing

[@einfelder8262]

Apart from the seat belt idiocy, the guy took the wrong line, drove too fast, and because the left rear was so far down in the hole, he suffered a massive amount of rear steer which pushed the airborne front further to the left until it rolled. It's a case of doing the same thing and expecting a different result, by taking the same line three times, the third time too fast. After the second fail, he should have grown some balls and winched up, or looked for a different line where he could keep the rear end level to avoid the rear steer. Different topic - when doing deep river crossings, leave your seatbelt off.

[@StephenCawrse]

I have seen that video before I would have reversed down after the 2nd attempt and not worried about it añd it was lovely to meet you and Mrs Mad Matt at the Lion's Den Pub 🍻 on our way to Cape York we had a fantastic time and on our way home 🏡 at the moment and thanks for the free sticker cheers legends Stephen and Christine 🙂🙂🙂

[@MadMatt4WD]

Ah yes I remember meeting you guys.

[@polacoevolution]

Your are a absolute legend Matt, I identify myself with your wheeling style , Thanks for your time to help others to be safe on the tracks Cheers 👍

[@MrPotatoHead86]

It’s called the widowmaker for a reason Not the first or last rollover there’s always a new burnt out 4wd at the bottom when I go. That hill is steep af and the rock step is chest height. Anyone I meet that’s done this track I buy em a beer 🍻

[@MadMatt4WD]

Yeah I can see it’s steep

[@alexsparks2249]

Drove straight up widow on long weekend in my first gen hilux, first thing I thought of (and did) at the bottom was you saying “wear you seatbelts guys” 👌🏻

[@andrewt3952]

Well he followed instruction n went back!🤣🤣

[@MadMatt4WD]

Lol

[@cyclemoto8744]

Been a while since I've caught your content. Thanks for sharing Matt. Cheers

[@MadMatt4WD]

Welcome back!

[@johnfitzgerald5158]

Can't control shite when you aren't belted. LROR i believed originated as Land Rover Of Road and later evolved to Let's Roll Of Road as they added all types of vehicles....Jeeps, LRs, Toyotas, Hummers, Pinzguaers, etc.

[@Haywoodjablomie100]

So they changed the name to lets roll before rolling? That will do it.

[@abstractspaces8186]

You've made me think about the last time I went down a hill leaning out the window to see where I was going. Think I'll wear the seatbelt next time 👍

[@MadMatt4WD]

You’re a champion. Well done on being honest and open to learning.

[@GhostofZuuzGaming]

i would say if he had long arm lower control arms in the rear it wouldnt tuck the rear wheels up further to the front, which makes the rear of car not having support

[@MadMatt4WD]

Yes the way power is put into the chassis plays a huge part in how a vehicle climbs

[@andrewt3952]

Long arms are a game changer

[@standinoffroad]

👍👍 Nice unpack Matt, and agree with the Seatbelt its there for a reason. Send us message if your coming through Coffs/Woolgoolga area and i can take you out to Widowmaker, i haven't done it in years and the right side is defiantly more of a challenge, but watched a mate do the left last year, its one of those hills you have to commit to and go.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Yeah it certainly looks like a commit type drive

[@greyknight05]

Very good new safety input, I did not recognize the missing belt as I never drive without or let my family - so I learned 40 years ago from my parents. We testes the 3point belts unexpected in a rollover with a Volvo in Denmark in 1993, I never doubted their work🙂👍🏼 Greetings from Germany, Bjørn (Ps. I'll send you a new vid from SaudiArabia for wearing no seatbelt and beind dumb - no graphic stuff😉)

[@MadMatt4WD]

Thanks

[@vincentdunne7197]

Hi Matt, in a recent safety review at work, machines were found to have the seat belt fastened with the operator sitting on top of the seatbelt. The seatbelt belts keep you in control of the vehicle especially in rough conditions. There is now a policy of cought without a seatbelt on you are cought without a job. In the case of this 4wd , if the driver had been wearing a seatbelt could he have stayed in control and saved his vehicle calling it a near miss as you had happen?.we may never know . All the 👌

[@MadMatt4WD]

I’ve seen lots of sitting on seat belts going on.

[@2UZFE]

Great unpack Matt as always 👍

[@MadMatt4WD]

Thanks 👍

[@drivingparadox]

Yep no seatbelt

[@jackfourbee3609]

Great video Matt. It seems our Aussies rigs have the J.Lo effect. Big in the rear. Keep up the great work Matt 👏👏👏

[@MadMatt4WD]

Thanks 👍

[@GTR_Pyro]

Had the rear locker engaged which allowed to to act as a fulcrum point when 1 rear gripped. Front locker in only would have been my approach.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Yes but imo even that would have been sketchy.

[@DougVandegrift]

Personally I think a rear locker can be bad in situations like this. Locking front locker on a climb and keeping rear off prevents rear pivot.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Yes it can be.

[@brentwhitney9725]

Great video Matt love it

[@MadMatt4WD]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@intimatespearfisher]

Seems like long arms on the rear would sort the rear left trying to drive under the passenger door. Other than the weight and all the goodies mentioned

[@MANorthey]

Would not having the rear locker engaged helped ? Or is the overall advantage out weighted by the risk?

[@MadMatt4WD]

Yes it may have.

[@ronbeurs208]

Hi Mat would having diff lock on have stop the pivot of the left wheel in that situation as it looked like it stop rotating ?

[@MadMatt4WD]

He was twin locked.

[@mickwatson2177]

Really good advice mate. 👍🐕🤠

[@MadMatt4WD]

Thanks 👍

[@georgecarousos6735]

I would also argue that having a suspension with way too much travel and a very light spring rate can also help cause this type of rollover. The other issue is weight distribution....having what appears to be at least 150 lbs (not including the aftermarket bumper/tire carrier) of tire/gear/water hanging off the rear end only makes the front end lighter and the springy suspension rebound that much harder. 50/50 weight distribution isn't correct either because it depends where the center of gravity is. Hanging 1000 lbs off the front and rear bumper may still be 50/50 weight distribution but the vehicle would handle like crap. I would think having shocks with a very robust rebound valving would help keep the truck closer to the ground when making extreme climbs on rutted trails like this. Hopefully no long term human damage other than egos.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Well said

[@frasers_adventures]

LROR - maybe Low Range Off Road?

[@Rally4Life1982]

Definitely needed less weight in the rear. Poor fella.

[@johnhannonHanno]

Without a seat belt he has all control in the cab he may have as he was thrown about. Brakes are on.

[@overlandready]

The obvious thing to me is the back axle pivots the vehicle body up and back, this looks like it's some form of spring dislocation system to give more articulation, but the effect it has is to put the body weight higher and back so altering the CoG of the vehicle in those directions. The brake is ineffective as it locks the wheel to the radius arm, which is still free to rotate as there is nothing stopping it until the damper is fully extended, that is too late for the vehicle and it goes over. Personally I advokate no great amount of lifts and certainly no dislocation on the axles, as it has no real benefit. In this instance it proves to be a massive failure point.

[@MadMatt4WD]

I don’t think there’s any dislocation system. The patrols have short lower control arms so the rear axle swings forward under big flex

[@overlandready]

@@MadMatt4WD yeah, maybe, but the dampers hadn't broken so they were too long for the springs, I suspect something like +5 dampers on +2 springs. So it was able to over stretch. As it goes over you can see it folds under. Unfortunately you can't beat physics on these things.

[@leonkane8240]

In relation to the whole seat belt thing. I ride mountain bikes & there is a school of thought that I subscribe to with it. I ride with cleated pedals & shoes that locks my feet into the pedal, It is designed that when I twist my feet, they release from the pedal. Some like them some don't. It does take some use & practice to become confident with them especially when come off. When I 1st started using them I was coming of more often, so I was not doing the hairy stuff during that period. When you come of the bike especially @ speed & down hill, staying with the bike generally means less injury & damaged. Two objects tumbling on the same trajectory disconnected have a higher chance of colliding. You don't need more to collide with, you already have plenty! It is possible that the feet can disengage from the pedal before stopping & perhaps that is even possible with a seat belt too especially in a role over. In both situations you are better locked in. I think too it is important to makes sure you have a means of cutting the seat belt mounted within easy visible reach. That was a nice Patrol. That gas bottle hanging on the back I would of mounted some where in the cab further forward, it might not of made much difference but any weight you can bring forward & lower is better in my opinion. The problem is you are never really going to know how much of a difference & I think that is often a trap in many peoples thinking. So too in MTB weight placement is so important.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Here in OZ we’re not allowed to carry gas in the cab because if they leak you can get an explosion or gassed.

[@leonkane8240]

@@MadMatt4WD Hi Matt, I am in AU, I feel stupid not knowing that, I should of realized that is not a great idea, it is so obvious, thank you. I have a single cab ute so it never came up for me. Always @least had a tool box to put it in.

[@kdigiacomo]

In my opinion, the worst is having an IQ39 as a spotter. Walk through and just do it yourself unless you trust the other person. Second opinion, I'll refrain from saying because calling under incompetent people that shouldn't be doing this, still do.

[@RESET1776]

Your not wrong & always buckle up! Only the primary reason most of these happen is ego. 😂

[@rodneygillespie9212]

Man when in doubt pull the winch out????

[@andrews2140]

Truck looked super heavy/unstable from the jump. As soon as it started lifting tire he should’ve pulled line. It was clearly an over lander not a crawler with the lack of articulation.

[@MadMatt4WD]

I tend to agree

[@dgs0011]

Seatbelt doesn’t make one iota of difference if you make poor decisions. It may stop you being ejected from cab Big tyres and long travel suspension didn’t help here . Perhaps when you can’t see the light at the end of the tunnel it’s time to turn back

[@MadMatt4WD]

That’s the idea to stop you being ejected. I thought that was obvious.

[@rhetth-s8082]

Well done. (Except it side rolled not "back flipped")

[@OnCountryWithMick]

Love your reacts videos mate. No way I would want to tackle the track personally but this drive generally looks really well controlled. They are going easy, taking it slow and not just full send like some clowns. Great work on their recovery too, lots of planning and safety involved. Good to see they didn't just rush into it and let the vehicle roll further down the hill.

[@SNLandCruisers]

To much crap on a truck and trying to do basically rock crawling is dumb.

[@robdefire4747]

So the driver was ok?

[@MadMatt4WD]

No idea. I hope so!

[@stevegoodwin5841]

Hear, hear. Wear your seatbelt. Too much load rear of rear axle too.

[@ElvisUmbrella]

If they know the front is light put that platform full of gear onto the front.

[@davidkelly3779]

Love watching a Patrol hero unwind. LMAO

[@craigparker4108]

🤡

[@judscoutman]

no seatbelt?

[@MadMatt4WD]

Yep. Well spotted

[@edoffher]

To big of a lift in this car, must be 5”, you can see the rear wheel out of set location to the vehicle with to lighter springs going everywhere, and then how much weight on the rear bumper, sure, this set up great for hard tracks with large deviations, not hill climbs, because you have a LARGE lift doesn’t mean INVINCIBLE. Thank goodness the driver survived, and has learned a lesson that could save his life = always wear the seat belt. I’ve seen cars roll over at less than 20ks an hour bush tracking, because of spent shocks on the rear end.

[@antonreyment8945]

No seat belt!

[@MadMatt4WD]

Well spotted.

[@Silvos29]

Its named widow maker for a reason

[@thejackaroo4WDcampingchannel]

Matt, the only thing I can see is the gas bottle etc adding a lot of weight to the backend and sticking out well over the axle line. Also, he is not wearing a seat belt, he would get thrown out should he roll down the hill. I think that the big issue here is that people are too reluctant to say enough is enough and back off. Peer pressure, perhaps.

[@veit-rudolfroth9670]

Am glad the gas bottle did not rupture during the tumble

[@25052007]

I like my car.

[@outlawedmedia4336]

No need to blur license plates. The database to access personal information isn't available to anyone.

[@MadMatt4WD]

The original vid did that

[@acafwd]

He should not have had a gas bottle on the outside of the vehicle when doing something like this.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Here in Australia it’s illegal to carry them inside the car.

[@bvward]

One thing that concerned me was the gas bottle mounted on the rear bumper... Hope it was empty...

[@michaelbennett-ot9rh]

No seat belt

[@MadMatt4WD]

Yes well spotted 👍

[@rodmcleod3072]

Why did he roll? …. Because he should have quit while he was ahead.

[@bigospig]

This would not have happened if they had more overlanding gear attached all over it.

[@BundyToo]

Mate!....... I came here thanks to the YT algorithm and let me tell you I won't be coming back if bagging other peoples miseries is your thing.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Ok. If that's how you see it, that was not what was intended. I much prefer to see it as taking the chance to learn from another’s misfortune. Anyway enjoy your wheeling.

[@XRP-FLR]

When I wheel on steep hills? I always change my blinker and headlamp fluid with high synthetic first to balance the weight.😉

[@MadMatt4WD]

Interesting. 😂

[@WhatTheIfYouSeeKay]

No seat belt….

[@MadMatt4WD]

Well spotted

[@Handleyman]

Common sense is obviously not that common in the 4WD community! 😂😂

[@ianwatson3315]

No seatbelt 🙄

[@MadMatt4WD]

Yes well spotted 😉

[@Stonr]

where theres something scary happening theres a woman to scream

[@anthonywhitney634]

I think if you're going to do ultra steep technical drives, set up ur rig appropriately. First easy thing would be not having all that weight on the rear bar ie spare tyre, gas bottle bags etc. I really hope he didn't have water in those PVC pipes on the roof as well.

[@Qld_Redneck]

Won't be surprised if this track gets shut down now

[@MadMatt4WD]

This is a few years ago

[@Lock_ya_hubs]

Hi Matt, my 2 cents on this kind of video… why post this online for authorities to see then give them ammo to shut down tracks and areas. All this sort of video is to get the views. I think you should just move on and not repost this crap. I realise you are trying to “educate” people but I think this will have a negative effect for us as 4 wheel drivers in the long run. This is KP all over again. And sorry I will not be watching any of this.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Understand that. But the content is already there and at least this is putting a positive spin onto it.

[@Lock_ya_hubs]

@@MadMatt4WD yes but I think by you reposting gives it a lot more exposure.

[@arinmirzayan3949]

No seat belt

[@MadMatt4WD]

Yes well spotted 👍