[READ PINNED] The Culver Shuttle - History & Remnants

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TrainRider Railfan - NYC Subway History & More

TrainRider Railfan - NYC Subway History & More

Күн бұрын

This video took forever to make, with researching, script writing, voicing, going out and searching the stations, and editing, so I really hope you enjoyed it.
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:36 Original Surface Line
1:13 Growing El Line
1:40 Service Changes
2:11 Decline & Demolition
2:43 Remnants @ Ditmas
4:01 Remnants @ 9 Av
5:34 View From The Platform/Train
9:03 Outro

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@TRRailfan
@TRRailfan 3 жыл бұрын
THOSE TRACKS THAT CROSS THE STREET ARE THE OLD SOUTH BROOKLYN RAILWAY TRACKS. THE CULVER SHUTTLE DID NOT CROSS THAT ROAD. IT RAMPED UP ON THE LEFT AND RAN ELEVATED TO DITMAS AV. WATCH THIS HISTORICAL TAPE FOR CLARIFICATION. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z2TMdZV8r8albbs
@mingkee27
@mingkee27 2 жыл бұрын
I walked on 37 Street and I found the part of ground after the track removed has red buildings lined up there
@amazing50000
@amazing50000 Жыл бұрын
Those tracks you could not find info on, did go to the 5th Ave EL. I saw another video with footage about the 5th Ave/Culver EL service in the 1930's. Those tracks going up the ramp to the 38 Street Yard was the connection between the 5th Ave EL and the Culver EL line. Trains coming from the 5th Ave EL use to go though the 38th street yard and then go down those ramps, then go into the lower platform at 9th Ave to connect with the Culver EL line.
@oluhamilton2121
@oluhamilton2121 3 жыл бұрын
When l was was a child my mother and l would get lost and l would guide us home. Loved the challenge of being lost on those old train lines.😢😢
@nobleroman5601
@nobleroman5601 3 жыл бұрын
Great little documentary on the Culver Line , my father was a Motorman on that line shorty after world war two , before he went to the surface line and operated trolleys , then electric buses and finally to regular buses , and oddly he finished his career with the Transit Authority at the 36th St. Depot as a bus shifter , almost a stones throw from the old Culver Line . Thanks for sharing this video with us all , real cool .
@TRRailfan
@TRRailfan 3 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad you enjoyed the video! That’s super interesting!
@mkendallpk4321
@mkendallpk4321 3 жыл бұрын
Another nice job! NYC seems to not understand what the ridership needs are too much of the time. Buses can never replace what the EL or Subway did.
@dangelo1369
@dangelo1369 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, yes they can. At the time most of these decisions were made to cut lines, the city was in dire financial straits. Hard decisions had to be made on what lines to keep open and what lines to discontinue or drop. Now given the population along the Culver shuttle corridor, it didn't make sense to continue a line that duplicated service from two other lines with greater ridership. In fact there's this: *_" In 1940 the Fifth Avenue El was suffering from poor ridership due to the Depression and the siphoning off of ridership by the 4th Avenue BMT line a block away. It closed. That same year, the city took over the three competing subway divisions, the BMT, IND and IRT. An IND extension had reached Church Avenue as early as 1933 but since the 1940 consolidation, a connection with the nearby Culver had just been a tantalizing possibility. It was finally attained in late 1954, meaning that subways could run through Cobble Hill, Park Slope and Kensington and then through to Coney Island. But it also meant that the section of the Culver which ran along the private right of way at 37th Street would eventually be doomed. It put up a brave face: some regular routes still ran from Ditmas Avenue (the first stop along McDonald Avenue) and Chambers Street (then the first stop in Manhattan after crossing the Manhattan Bridge) until 1959; from then until 1975, the old line was merely a shuttle, and as we’ll see, it was left to gradually deteriorate and die."_* -"Forgotten NY-Culver's Travels" [ forgotten-ny.com/2003/02/culvers-travels-the-demolition-of-a-brooklyn-elevated-link/] As much as we wax nostalgic for these train lines, we tend to forget that they have to be operated on city tax dollars and justify it's operations based on sound business practices. You have to analyze the decisions made in the context of when they were made then and not now. The Brooklyn of 40 years ago, is not the Brooklyn of today.
@GLee-oe3op
@GLee-oe3op 5 жыл бұрын
Man it would have been much more convenient for Culver line customers to get to Atlantic Terminal via the shuttle and D train
@delphineprotopapas3931
@delphineprotopapas3931 5 жыл бұрын
G. Lee Ugh yes, exactly :(
@TRRailfan
@TRRailfan 5 жыл бұрын
As a Culver Line customer, I can confirm that statement.
@TheRailLeaguer
@TheRailLeaguer 3 жыл бұрын
You have the R train at 4th Avenue, so it’s not a total loss.
@TheRailLeaguer
@TheRailLeaguer 3 жыл бұрын
@@nassaustloop Why do that when you can just take the F to 4th Avenue and get on the R train.
@TheRailLeaguer
@TheRailLeaguer 3 жыл бұрын
@@nassaustloop Really, because it’s normally fine? Another preferred alternative is to not take the F train altogether if you’re going to Barclays Center. If you live south of Church Avenue, your best bet is to use the B and Q from nearby stations, since those lines are more reliable.
@joesmith-md2kt
@joesmith-md2kt 2 жыл бұрын
THANKS FOR THE MEMORY. I BROKE IN ON CULVER SHUTTLE IN 1968 AND I BROKE IN ON DIESEL WORK TRAINS IN 1970. BACK THEN THOSE MOTORMAN WERE "ROCKED RIBBED AND ANCIENT AS THE SUN", AND I WAS 24. NOW I AM.
@TioTony74
@TioTony74 3 жыл бұрын
I grew up on 39th Street in the 80s and early 90s and did not know a lot about these old lines. I remember this older lady in our church talking about the old street cars and the elevated train that used to run on 5th Avenue and I remember there were little remnants everywhere such as those train tracks peeking out of the pavement. Thank you for your well researched video and also for inducing some nostalgia in me! I've lived outside of the New York area now for about 24 years but still always proud to say I grew up in Brooklyn which is such a gem in terms of the people and its history!
@TRRailfan
@TRRailfan 3 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you enjoyed the video!
@jackdepalma
@jackdepalma 7 ай бұрын
1970 I rode the shuttle to see a grateful dead show at the new Utrecht 46st theatre. Very obscure location. On Thursday I was there to meet the band arrive and helped heft the stage an old upright piano. Got a free ticket that night saw hot tuna and dead jam. Took that shuttle back home on the F line. Remember playing my lonely harmonica downstairs at that D train station.
@thanbo
@thanbo 3 жыл бұрын
There's a scene near the end of the movie Crocodile Dundee that was shot in the lower level of 9th Avenue. Lots of details of the wall decorations.
@claudineamato1161
@claudineamato1161 3 жыл бұрын
MTA let the Culver shuttle rot. The 2 middle stations at 13th Avenue and at Fort Hamilton Parkway still had wooden platforms. It just sat there for several years after it was discontinued before they dismantled that section.
@johnd.lictro1312
@johnd.lictro1312 3 жыл бұрын
It sat until the late 80's.
@mohamad-ms2pb
@mohamad-ms2pb Жыл бұрын
And yet the Myrtle Ave el was dismantled and razed within a year after it's closing.
@1575murray
@1575murray 10 ай бұрын
As of 2023 the crossovers that connect the local tracks to the center express track just north of Ditmas Ave. have been relocated underground leaving only the switch between the express track and the two express tracks on the connecting ramp that opened in 1954 when the D train was extended over the Culver line to Coney Island. In 1967 the D was rerouted over the Manhattan Bridge to the Brighton line and replaced with an extended F train.
@goldengatesubwaydude7484
@goldengatesubwaydude7484 3 жыл бұрын
The lower level of Ninth Avenue was featured in the 1988 film Crocodile Dundee II and the 2019 film Joker
@SleepyRaccoon
@SleepyRaccoon 3 жыл бұрын
For a video made by someone who sounds around ~11-12 years old, this video is actually pretty good! Well researched, good microphone quality, high quality images. Good video in general! Keep up the good work, I'm gonna watch a few more of your videos and if they're as good as this one, I'll definitely subscribe!
@TRRailfan
@TRRailfan 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! This was a while back and I’ve definitely improved since (there are several inaccuracies in this video), I still make videos like this so feel free to check them out! They take a long time to make so don’t expect them too often.
@dangelo1369
@dangelo1369 3 жыл бұрын
@@TRRailfan You might want to check out the videos by the late Roger Arcara who was a rail fan like you. He collected many old films of the old elevated lines in NYC before they were abandoned and torn down. Like this one with the 9th & 6th avenue El's and the Brooklyn El's from the Brooklyn Bridge and the connections to the Myrtle Ave El before the terminal was torn down: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qpe0q2Bjl9Jnm8U&feature=emb_rel_end
@evandoorbell4278
@evandoorbell4278 Жыл бұрын
Great job! In 1975 my friend Ben and I rode the Culver shuttle and he took lots of pictures. Ben also rode the last train on the Culver shuttle. A few years later we attended the meeting where the MTA heard from the public about their plan to eliminate the FRANKLIN shuttle. They literally had no idea that many people use the Franklin shuttle to transfer between those two lines in Brooklyn, and that without it it would be necessary to go into Manhattan to make that transfer. That meeting saved the Franklin shuttle.
@TRRailfan
@TRRailfan Жыл бұрын
Amazing! Do you have any pictures digitized?
@evandoorbell4278
@evandoorbell4278 Жыл бұрын
@@TRRailfan Sorry I don't; Ben had the pics and I don't know what became of them. Ben has been out of touch for over 10 years (I think it's because he works with the VERY security-conscious government in his new country of residence and doesn't want to raise eyebrows by being in touch with a former telephone hacker/Phone Phreak (me) ) BTW if you're at all curious about what the old pre-digital telephone network sounded like, Ben's and my tapes are all over my KZbin channel. In any case, keep up the great work!
@square8659
@square8659 Жыл бұрын
For anyone wondering, the name of the piano music is called Cylinder Six by Chris Zabriskie
@DAnimates
@DAnimates 4 жыл бұрын
The MTA should've kept the Culver shuttle so people could transfer from the F to the D
@jazielreacts3998
@jazielreacts3998 4 жыл бұрын
Yea
@-inactive-noobydanger4278
@-inactive-noobydanger4278 3 жыл бұрын
But how would it run? The roads were built across some of the tracks not providing good train service. I mean sure there can be a railroad crossing but it’s a city, not a Country side
@TRRailfan
@TRRailfan 3 жыл бұрын
actually that road crossing in the video was not part of it, i messed up whole researching
@TheRailLeaguer
@TheRailLeaguer 3 жыл бұрын
That’s not really a high demand service, considering the route can be better served by buses.
@TheRailLeaguer
@TheRailLeaguer 3 жыл бұрын
@@DerrickTan74 There’s a better alternative to the Culver Shuttle, which is taking the bus crosstown. It’s a relatively quick ride. The F and D transfer is completely not important.
@astoriawilliams5584
@astoriawilliams5584 4 жыл бұрын
this really shocked me as I am a huge fan of culver.. nice video I love it!
@TRRailfan
@TRRailfan 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it so much! Culver is a great line!
@scytheyt4051
@scytheyt4051 3 жыл бұрын
I think they should add that back into the subway but it’s only In use for when there is track work in the culver line. Southbound?. So we can still have a way to get to get around. I pulled a 200 IQ maybe. lol
@latishashaw5747
@latishashaw5747 2 жыл бұрын
There is a problem tho the display would need to be updated by and it would take a lot of people out of there house and it would cost a lot of money. Other than that I this they should bring it back bot for all day service.
@Stanf954
@Stanf954 3 жыл бұрын
Those ramps were for the old 5th Av El
@TRRailfan
@TRRailfan 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@michaelleggett3980
@michaelleggett3980 4 жыл бұрын
Well done! This line could've still connected to the 4th Avenue BMT & be run to Chambers Street on the Nassau Loop.
@TRRailfan
@TRRailfan 4 жыл бұрын
That would be a cool service. Things have changed though, so that would no longer be possible for several reasons.
@subwayfantx1608
@subwayfantx1608 3 жыл бұрын
especially going from South Brooklyn to the Nassau Street line which ran for many decades until 2008.
@jackdepalma
@jackdepalma 7 ай бұрын
The connection at Metro Tech fixed all my issues getting to or from the R or the F. So much easier there at Metrotech Jay St & Lawrence st to transfer. Watched the building during time working at Bklyn Tech HS. Easier than at 4th Ave & 9st to get the R to bay ridge. And now I live in Bklyn Hts. And not by Kings Hiway on the F line. JD
@Pensyfan19
@Pensyfan19 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely outstanding review of this line! Especially of the interior of the lower level of 9th ave station. I've always wondered about the history of this relatively short shuttle when it ran. Thank you for informing us of this subject! Just subscribed!
@TRRailfan
@TRRailfan 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed, thanks for subscribing!
@richardcheng3288
@richardcheng3288 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video shot of the old Culver shuttle line. Loved it.
@DARTHBLUNT713
@DARTHBLUNT713 3 жыл бұрын
I remembered when MTA remove the el tracks completely back in 1985 in August all gone
@amazing50000
@amazing50000 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah those tracks you could not find info on, did go to the 5th Ave EL. I saw another video with footage about the 5th Ave/Culver EL service. Those tracks going up the ramp to the 38 Street Yard was the connection between the 5th Ave EL and the Culver EL line. Trains coming from the 5th Ave EL use to go though the 38th street yard and then go down those ramps, then go into the lower platform at 9th Ave to connect with the Culver EL line.
@nafanarefour4564
@nafanarefour4564 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, this was super informative! Thanks for the awesome video!
@marcprovost3380
@marcprovost3380 4 жыл бұрын
Saw the remains at ditmas when i went to nyc a few years ago
@marcleslac2413
@marcleslac2413 4 жыл бұрын
I saw the old abandoned remanants at ditmas its impressive and fun fact i was unaware when i first saw the little stud of trackbed in 2016 when i first rode the nyc subway
@latishashaw5747
@latishashaw5747 2 жыл бұрын
Same here I thought there where for the shade
@topliner9534
@topliner9534 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much for this. I remember the debates in the 70's about whether to close the Culver line. In addition to the comment below about the South Brooklyn Railway tracks, which is true, there were street level tracks under the el along McDonald Ave. for the 50-McDonald trolley line, which used early model PCCs. It lasted until about 1956.
@TRRailfan
@TRRailfan 3 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you enjoyed the video! After the trolley line went out of service, the tracks were occasionally used to move equipment between 38 St Yard, Parkville Junction, and Coney Island Yard.
@johnd.lictro1312
@johnd.lictro1312 3 жыл бұрын
The MTA gave poor reasons for closing it, just excuses. The stations were in pathetic shape, but the El structure was identical to the West End Line and was more than structurally sound. Despite promises of more bus service, like all their "promises" it didn't last long. A thousand people a day is a lot of extra people for the B35 to handle.
@danielwrynn4707
@danielwrynn4707 10 ай бұрын
Excellent video on the old Culver Shuttle.
@1575murray
@1575murray 2 жыл бұрын
The MTA wasn't created until the mid 1960s. When the Culver line was rerouted to the IND the transit system was run by the New York City Transit Authority which replaced the Board of Transportation as the operator of the bus and subway systems. The TA did a lot of work in the 1950s extending the IND over former BMT and LIRR trackage and replacing thousands of worn out cars and replacing outdated infrastructure. Unfortunately important projects such as the Second Avenue Subway had to wait a long time before being built.
@randomclass4653
@randomclass4653 3 жыл бұрын
3:18 I remember that Curve from a driver's POV!
@jazielreacts3998
@jazielreacts3998 4 жыл бұрын
And i wish i was in NYC right now to se the stuff that remands of the culver
@TRRailfan
@TRRailfan 4 жыл бұрын
It will probably be there for a while, come later
@subwayfantx1608
@subwayfantx1608 3 жыл бұрын
@@TRRailfan Thanks for the info, I've always wondered what line that used to run on those old tracks when I moved to Kensington Park in 1979. I used to see the old rusted tracks that used to extend all the way to 13th Ave and part of the abandoned 13th Ave station also which is now gone.
@TRRailfan
@TRRailfan 3 жыл бұрын
It was a freight line. Still exists, just not that part anymore. It went all the way to Coney and connected with the LIRR at Parkville Interchange.
@noahoneill6685
@noahoneill6685 3 жыл бұрын
Nice work!
@therockstandard3068
@therockstandard3068 4 жыл бұрын
Wow. Love it. Im looking for the EL trains in the Bronx at gun hill road in the 2 train
@TRRailfan
@TRRailfan 4 жыл бұрын
Alberto Ortega Thanks! Have fun in the Bronx!
@leecornwell1062
@leecornwell1062 3 жыл бұрын
If go to Gun Hill road on the 2 train where the old 8 train used to run on the lower level you will see half of the subway frame s with no tracks or ties
@therockstandard3068
@therockstandard3068 3 жыл бұрын
@@leecornwell1062 yeah, I used to pass by there. It’s history is interesting.
@leecornwell1062
@leecornwell1062 3 жыл бұрын
@@therockstandard3068 it's still up half of the frames from the the old 8 train that is still up but. Not all the way torn down I really think they are going to do something with that I'm telling you something else is about to happen i could tell you that now
@therockstandard3068
@therockstandard3068 3 жыл бұрын
@@leecornwell1062 I don’t think it’s going to be used for anything else. They torn down the station that was below the 2 and 5 train platforms. But who knows. 🤷‍♂️
@MHammonds18
@MHammonds18 Жыл бұрын
Great vid!
@1575murray
@1575murray 3 жыл бұрын
The Ninth Avenue station is one of two stations on the transit system where elevated trains used a platform that was below the one used by subway trains.
@TRRailfan
@TRRailfan 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, that’s a really interesting fun fact!
@jaymorgenthal9479
@jaymorgenthal9479 2 жыл бұрын
Wilson Ave on the L is over/under
@richardfuller7209
@richardfuller7209 2 жыл бұрын
They could clean up the second level at 9th avenue, known as the forgotten platform, by replacing the tracks with new ones, cleaning and remodeling the platform and then, upon creating and underground tunnel to travel underneath where the EL LINE 9th avenue shuttle use to run, they can use that level of the station 🚉 as an extension for the Crosstown G-train 🚆.
@next50years
@next50years 9 ай бұрын
Well done and interesting keep doing these please.
@r160aexpress5
@r160aexpress5 4 жыл бұрын
This is an Interesting video... I loved Culver since my childhood
@TRRailfan
@TRRailfan 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad I was able to give you more information on what you love.
@Goofy1trainofficial
@Goofy1trainofficial 3 жыл бұрын
I Also Loved It!
@TRRailfan
@TRRailfan 3 жыл бұрын
Great!
@m0dze1532
@m0dze1532 5 жыл бұрын
very interesting video. I never knew about the culver shuttle
@TRRailfan
@TRRailfan 5 жыл бұрын
m0dzel thanks! Glad you learned something new!
@kathymcmorrow
@kathymcmorrow 3 жыл бұрын
IM VIBING TO THE INTRO
@TRRailfan
@TRRailfan 3 жыл бұрын
DO YOU WANT A FULL VERSION?
@kathymcmorrow
@kathymcmorrow 3 жыл бұрын
@@TRRailfan sure :)
@TRRailfan
@TRRailfan 3 жыл бұрын
ok how do i send it to you
@kathymcmorrow
@kathymcmorrow 3 жыл бұрын
@@TRRailfan I will look it up
@TRRailfan
@TRRailfan 3 жыл бұрын
dm me on discord tryt#2407
@blackpit1769
@blackpit1769 4 жыл бұрын
They should reopen it because the B35 is way too overcrowded
@TheRailLeaguer
@TheRailLeaguer 3 жыл бұрын
New buses have been added to the route to ease congestion.
@johnd.lictro1312
@johnd.lictro1312 3 жыл бұрын
It would have to be completely rebuilt. At this point, it would have to be underground.
@blackpit1769
@blackpit1769 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnd.lictro1312 true
@latishashaw5747
@latishashaw5747 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnd.lictro1312 true but the would have to ask Mayor Eric adimas to do so
@jaymorgenthal9479
@jaymorgenthal9479 10 күн бұрын
Take the F to Fourth ave. Free transfer to the BMT fourth ave line.
@seymorebutts2687
@seymorebutts2687 4 жыл бұрын
The culver shuttle never merged with the IND F line. There was a bumper there At ditmas ave
@killajakez
@killajakez 3 жыл бұрын
But at some point it did operate like that. Prior to "shuttle only" service, trains ran all the way to coney island. Am I wrong?
@TRRailfan
@TRRailfan 3 жыл бұрын
You’re right. I think I missed a couple things in this video. To reply to Seymore, once the shuttle only used that one track, there was no longer a track connection, I was wrong in the video. Sorry.
@anthonygallo3576
@anthonygallo3576 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid
@TRRailfan
@TRRailfan 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@mohamad-ms2pb
@mohamad-ms2pb Жыл бұрын
Back in May 1984 I shot a roll of film of the abandoned structure from Ft Hamilton Pky to Ditmas Ave.
@TRRailfan
@TRRailfan Жыл бұрын
Have you digitized it? I'm sure the community would love to see it (including me!)
@mohamad-ms2pb
@mohamad-ms2pb Жыл бұрын
@@TRRailfan No I only have the prints. Maybe some day I'll get around to it.
@brownmtrain4012
@brownmtrain4012 5 жыл бұрын
Nice video!
@TRRailfan
@TRRailfan 5 жыл бұрын
R160 M train Productions Is the best Thanks! Glad you like it!
@dwaynerichardson5380
@dwaynerichardson5380 3 жыл бұрын
If you need to see the lower level of 9th Avenue Station, check out the film The Joker. The scene when he shoots the three guys in suits on the subway platform.
@TRRailfan
@TRRailfan 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, there are lots of movies filmed there. Also lots of old footage from the 70s. I just didn’t know what I was doing at the time.
@toms6756
@toms6756 3 жыл бұрын
@@TRRailfan Great job with the video and content. I knew Joker was filmed there. What other movies were shot there?
@ooglyboogliee6653
@ooglyboogliee6653 3 жыл бұрын
epic video
@bluemantom77
@bluemantom77 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video love the info I am not a expert on this you did well messing up info is fine
@dominicanamariposa21
@dominicanamariposa21 2 жыл бұрын
I wish this shuttle still existed!
@johnburke1317
@johnburke1317 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice video
@WillF40PH_train_railroad
@WillF40PH_train_railroad 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. You should do one on the IRT 9th Avenue line in the future.
@TRRailfan
@TRRailfan 5 жыл бұрын
WillF40PH Thanks! I will!
@TRRailfan
@TRRailfan 5 жыл бұрын
WillF40PH After a bit of research, I’ve found a problem. Is there anything left of it?
@WillF40PH_train_railroad
@WillF40PH_train_railroad 5 жыл бұрын
@@TRRailfan There are two abandoned stations I've heard about, one at Jerome-Anderson avenues and the other at Sedgwick avenue.
@TRRailfan
@TRRailfan 5 жыл бұрын
@@WillF40PH_train_railroad Oh, ok i'll look into it, but I have a lot of pending video requests, so it might be a little while.
@latishashaw5747
@latishashaw5747 2 жыл бұрын
@@WillF40PH_train_railroad yep there are still there
@zestcres
@zestcres 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video...you have a new fan!
@TRRailfan
@TRRailfan 3 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad you enjoyed it!
@TRRailfan
@TRRailfan 3 жыл бұрын
I have a playlist of my historical videos if you want to see more, although there aren’t too many since they take a long time to make
@zestcres
@zestcres 3 жыл бұрын
I plan to look at all of them!...😉
@michaelquinones-lx6ks
@michaelquinones-lx6ks 3 ай бұрын
The 5TH AV EL was torn down in November 1941 just one month before the U.S. entered WWII.
@jabgaming2592
@jabgaming2592 Жыл бұрын
they should’ve Extend the J to 9th Street to Ditmas Avenue Replacing the Culver shuttle instead of Demolishing It
@dominicanamariposa21
@dominicanamariposa21 2 жыл бұрын
Heyyyy Trainrider railfan nyc the information regarding the fifth avenue el that you was mentioning in the video about the culver shuttle at 6:52 is on Wikipedia!!!
@TRRailfan
@TRRailfan 2 жыл бұрын
Almost like Wikipedia is one of my main sources for these videos
@kevinhoward9593
@kevinhoward9593 Жыл бұрын
it sucks that they didn't plan for the future and kept the lines. the system is already stressed to the limit as it is.
@mingkee27
@mingkee27 2 жыл бұрын
I took few pictures where the track was When you go along 37 Street, the red buildings are where the track was
@TRRailfan
@TRRailfan 2 жыл бұрын
yeah the old ROW is super obvious
@blackpit1769
@blackpit1769 4 жыл бұрын
Next time go down the stairs
@blue9multimediagroup
@blue9multimediagroup 3 жыл бұрын
It's locked behind a gate.
@blackpit1769
@blackpit1769 3 жыл бұрын
@@blue9multimediagroup makes sense
@EpicThe112
@EpicThe112 2 жыл бұрын
MTA should have actually kept the shuttle and a track connection to the original culver line to Coney Island so that Culver Shuttle uses R68A R68s R160A-2 R160B Alstom and Siemens R211s from B, G, N, Q & W Trains. Compared to a B35 bus Block North B67/B69 bus
@dominicanamariposa21
@dominicanamariposa21 2 жыл бұрын
Will you have a video about the 3rd avenue el that was terminated in 1973?!
@johnrobinsoniii4028
@johnrobinsoniii4028 2 жыл бұрын
If you look at this old map and compare it to today’s map,you’ll see that they switched the Ditmas Avenue station with the 18th Avenue station.
@TRRailfan
@TRRailfan 2 жыл бұрын
I've looked back at every map I have access to, and all of them have Ditmas and 18th in the correct order. What do you mean?
@dominicanamariposa21
@dominicanamariposa21 2 жыл бұрын
Will you have a video about the NX from the TA archives?!
@iron_lion940
@iron_lion940 Жыл бұрын
Great video!!! Where do you get you music from? Very relaxing
@TRRailfan
@TRRailfan Жыл бұрын
I think it came with my video editor at the time lol. Glad you enjoyed! I have several other videos like this one kzbin.info/aero/PLfGgE_7qyweqqEFN3f5SFlI8lPMFcSNKE
@Michael_afton698
@Michael_afton698 2 жыл бұрын
the last run of the shuttle was in 1975
@dominicanamariposa21
@dominicanamariposa21 2 жыл бұрын
Why wasn’t the line extended to Coney Island?!
@michaelleggett3980
@michaelleggett3980 2 жыл бұрын
Actually it was 1959 when the BMT portion became a shuttle.
@mitch4527
@mitch4527 Жыл бұрын
What does “The Year of the Cat” have to do with the Culver Shuttle?
@jazielreacts3998
@jazielreacts3998 4 жыл бұрын
Do a video of the history of the R38 subway car
@TRRailfan
@TRRailfan 4 жыл бұрын
I want to but I’m working on like 10 videos right now
@someonerandom8726
@someonerandom8726 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: They fillmed joker on the 9Av lower level
@markfox9034
@markfox9034 3 жыл бұрын
Why did the B (West End Line) switch letters with the D (Brighton Line) ?
@TRRailfan
@TRRailfan 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure after the 1990s-early 2000s Manhattan Bridge Project.
@TioTony74
@TioTony74 3 жыл бұрын
That switch still drives me nuts LOL! When I was in High School a million years ago I would take the B train from 36th Street to either Pacific St/Atlantic Ave. or DeKalb Ave to transfer to the D train to get to my school. Today it would be the opposite. These train lines become part of your neighborhood identity...I'm a B, N, R kid, not a D, N, R kid!! LOL! Still not as weird as when the J train came to the neighborhood for a few years.
@TRRailfan
@TRRailfan 3 жыл бұрын
@@TioTony74 They were switched during the Manhattan Bridge Project. Same with the J coming to Brooklyn. Or maybe that was 9/11? Anyways, you probably shouldn’t think of yourself as a B N R kid, try 4th Avenue Line kid or BMT Subway kid. Routes change, lines don’t.
@latishashaw5747
@latishashaw5747 2 жыл бұрын
@@TioTony74 that was the brown m
@gotmilk91
@gotmilk91 Жыл бұрын
There are several videos here in YT of urban explorers/trespass artists and adventurous kids making their way around the lower-level of the 9th... I should give $100 to the person who'd crawl inside one of those cubbyholes underneath the "abandoned" platforms of the lower-level 9th Ave tracks... ... those really old tracks on the streets-level; give another 125 years and they will finally be completely paved over. Someone people were trying to restart a section of old trolley (in NYC? Philly? Baltimore?... 🤔) but the plans fell through... pipe dream/too impractical apparently...
@mitch4527
@mitch4527 Жыл бұрын
The MTA did not make any decisions in 1964 because the MTA didn’t come into existence until 1968.
@sonicfan91
@sonicfan91 4 жыл бұрын
what music did you use here
@TRRailfan
@TRRailfan 4 жыл бұрын
SonicFan '91 Some copyright free music from the app during app I use, InShot
@blue9multimediagroup
@blue9multimediagroup 3 жыл бұрын
@@TRRailfan Ah. We use InShot as well. Very good app to use and since the upgrades, we can now add custom fonts as well as personal music (we add the artists name, labels and year of production in the credits at the end). Well done.
@marcleslac2413
@marcleslac2413 3 жыл бұрын
I saw the stud at ditmas it’s interesting
@TRRailfan
@TRRailfan 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@marcleslac2413
@marcleslac2413 3 жыл бұрын
@@TRRailfan ikr montreal has old remains of its trams like well track exposed or the abandoned line from hudson and rigaud and nyc ran a commuter service to valleyfeild
@TRRailfan
@TRRailfan 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe if I go back some day I’ll check it out.
@marcleslac2413
@marcleslac2413 3 жыл бұрын
@@TRRailfan ik we got a huge history and remains like at windsor station where grayer tiles are used to represent the tracks and some of the original canopies still are there and are beautiful
@TRRailfan
@TRRailfan 3 жыл бұрын
Wow that sounds really cool!
@michaelleggett9693
@michaelleggett9693 Жыл бұрын
1959 it became a full time shuttle.
@birdjudey4751
@birdjudey4751 3 жыл бұрын
Is it says as Drirsh mars or dicgmars or ditnarr
@TRRailfan
@TRRailfan 3 жыл бұрын
The station is named Ditmas Avenue.
@randomclass4653
@randomclass4653 3 жыл бұрын
It's Called Ditmas
@Ass_Burgers_Syndrome
@Ass_Burgers_Syndrome 3 ай бұрын
Good info, just not sure about the piano music, kinda depressing.
@jazielreacts3998
@jazielreacts3998 4 жыл бұрын
But im in chicago
@jazielreacts3998
@jazielreacts3998 4 жыл бұрын
That is why i cant come
@staci7006
@staci7006 3 жыл бұрын
he made a mistake that no one noticed he said BRT/BMT
@TRRailfan
@TRRailfan 3 жыл бұрын
yes I made a lot of mistakes sorry
@hanquanchen4460
@hanquanchen4460 Жыл бұрын
or take the. R train
@mariselagrajales9915
@mariselagrajales9915 3 жыл бұрын
how this kid know all of this stuff
@TRRailfan
@TRRailfan 3 жыл бұрын
research. although I wasn’t very good at it at the time.
@rosephoenix4634
@rosephoenix4634 3 жыл бұрын
I got to stay of a clear of a details that are out of this jungle boy that he done his homework that's so much that he done his homework in the past of an understanding that I used to be a train line connected to the other side of a different location and everything. When the train go to well much far away but however sometimes people in the present that well people are not loved it to ride a train because the future is getting better and better yet including that the first airplane and the first Highway it's very difficult right there that people wanted to travel all over famous and for the future it was but there was a little bit of edit they just don't have the money that I just take one of those are my lists to be at the train line connection and the train stopped started of what was used to be right there it was very very well difficult right there but sometimes that our populations that are to the train lines of as not popular anymore but many people died down or having that of so many different pictures and videos that are black white and even sometimes that I have a picture on a the black wine or color is just like not forget on to the Past was used to be running and to remember in the future and specially there was a competition that of someone in the past that BMT IRT two companies that are of the best of the best of the four Transit Transportation over to the train stops and train line but it was very you like stuff like that it was very like who's going to be the future and who's not going to be the future but then after that somewhere in the presence at two companies that are working together United and they're going to call m t a Manhattan Transportation America mini of different employees that used to be working on the train the train stop locations and others that are fixing the trash bags out of a pad the tribes and upgraded something like that but many people that it's very sad that it's going to be destroyed so it's nothing forgot about it is always to have a remember and some people that many of ex-employee wanted to take a souvenir that before they could destroy it and to remember but not forgotten
@TRRailfan
@TRRailfan 3 жыл бұрын
wha t
@rosephoenix4634
@rosephoenix4634 3 жыл бұрын
@@TRRailfan sometimes that is Subway that losing money in the present and the future for sometimes that I just sold your hair very well how to say this the more tunnels abandoned back still not discovered yet but some people already discovered already but it's going to be like remove destroy or even change
@TheConcieted
@TheConcieted 11 ай бұрын
I'M TELLING MTA TO REVIVE THE CULVER SHUTTLE TO REMAIN😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡!!!!!!!!!
@thomasabramson100
@thomasabramson100 Жыл бұрын
At the south end of the 36th st station on 4th ave there is a ramp going to street level the BMT tracks make a sharp left and go into a tunnel going up the hill to 9 th Ave there is a spur there crossing 4th ave street level RR cr4ossing going to a small yard on 1st ave and the NY & NJ railroad on street on 1st ave
@dominicanamariposa21
@dominicanamariposa21 2 жыл бұрын
Will you have a video about the NX from the TA archives?!
@TRRailfan
@TRRailfan 2 жыл бұрын
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