Reading an Anti-Socialism Children's Book

[@iammrbeat]

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[@Amibingus]

Mr breast please gib monies

[@SchoolPrincipalReacts]

This video was interesting - “indoctrination” is sometimes more about intention. Every teacher or writer of a textbook/curriculum has a perspective that is subtly embedded in the content is some small way. As you are probably aware, more teachers do a decent job of at least trying to remain neutral. Unfortunately I will be at SCHOOL during your broadcast! 😂😂😂

[@GhostOnTheHalfShell]

Any sufficiently large corporation is indistinguishable from a centrally command and control economic sector. EG: food processing: Tyson, Cargill. Amazon, Google, KZbin, Meta. The banking system. Wealth concentration and large corporations are not even market driven. Several a few economists have remarked that today’s US economy is techno feudalism.

[@The_Very_Halal_Indonesia]

@@Amibingus lol

[@davidwebs111]

Mr.beat you been working out? looking swoll

[@linger6666]

mr beat looks like a secret, unspoken 5th member of weezer

[@clonecommandermike332]

This is the best thing I have seen today

[@benjaminjones8782]

John

[@paddle_my_mad_laddle]

Rivers Cuomo should get him as a featured artist on the next Weezer project

[@christianweatherbroadcasting]

Repent and trust in Jesus. we deserve Hell for our sins. For example lying, lusing, saying God's name as a cuss word and stealing our just some examples of sin which we can all admit to doing at least one of those. For our sin we deserve death and Hell, but there is a way out. Repent anf trust in Jesus and you will be saved. Repentence is turning from sin. So repent and trust in Jesus. He will save you from Hell, and instead give you eternal life in Heaven. John 3:16 Romans 3:23

[@benjaminjones8782]

@@christianweatherbroadcasting god has a name? What is it I though he was just god

[@MikeCappella98]

It's kinda hard to market yourself as unbiased when your founder is a politician. They're the epitome of biased.

[@Spongebrain97]

Also when the founder's daughter is the literal governor who allowed money to be sent to him 😂

[@keith7261]

It’s completely flawed to even market yourself as unbiased because everyone has inherent bias lol. I’d rather people just let their bias be known, but that would give the game away for many of these people.

[@DarkZerol]

That dude and his publishing company literally made a single book promoting then President Trump to kids. 🤦

[@Dynamic241]

@@keith7261 Fr, I hate it when ppl say “ I’m un biased,” or “ go to a unbiased source” like everyone and everything has a bias. And that’s not a bad thing. We need to let those biases be know. Instead of trying to hide them

[@jjr5233]

@@Spongebrain97 Wanted to ask about that, how come giving out subsidies that way does not ring any alarm bells in the US?

[@thrillshow]

"We shouldn't be teaching our kids _what_ to think, but _how_ to think." I've never thought of it like that, but what an interesting concept.

[@sijdnsd6460]

This line comes from the book, 1984 Edit: After research, the line doesn’t directly come from the book. However, the aspect of thoughtcrime lines up with this line.

[@qfjd]

​@@sijdnsd6460 Where specifically in 1984? I tried searching for it but nothing came up.

[@29SEBA]

I heard that similar phrase from the 'exploiter orb' in Warframe.

[@iammrbeat]

@sijdnsd6460 I don't remember reading that line from _1984_

[@stananderson4524]

Exactly.

[@hypatian9093]

Best thing: "Oh no, Denmark and Sweden are not socialist" - but every time someone proposes to do something in a more Scandinavian style, from health care to housing zones, it gets the "socialist" label ;)

[@masonma2026]

It's because if they acknowledge that Denmark/Norway/Sweden are socialist, it makes socialism seem good bc Denmark/Sweden/Norway are *objectively* successful.

[@TommiWalle]

It's called a social democratic welfare state. The Nordic countries do have market economies, so they're not socialist under a traditional definition of the term.

[@penebrook8330]

I don't really think those countries, like Denmark and Sweden, are "socialist" - they're more like social democracies, but then again, it's something that is a branch of socialism anyway, so...

[@theRPGmaster]

I'm Swedish. Denmark and Sweden are very socialist, i.e the poorest and most vulnerable people are neglected and seen as a burden. If I were to seek reliable healthcare for my disability, I would be broke by now. So, sincerely, I hate you. Probably, Americans who think they know how the world works. 90-year olds are refused a place to live, after paying extreme taxes for decades, forced to die in the street. You're disgusting.

[@terminalimpact2771]

@@penebrook8330You’d be surprised about the ideological rabbit hole that is socialism. If you can access the 4-axis political compass grid, now’s the time.

[@withagrainofsalt3792]

As a socialist myself I can confirm that I do not believe in the pursuit of happiness. I strive only for pain and to grow a beard as epic as Marx.

[@nathansmith8883]

As a communist I can confirm that I want everyone in the world to be forced to work the coal mines 24/7 while I use my fancy brush to make my beard look just like Marx's.

[@hectorvega621]

As a Socialist I can tell this is sarcasm, but in all seriousness I no idea why I have to suggest Universal Healthcare in a joking manner for people to think about it.

[@nathansmith8883]

@@hectorvega621 I will call universal healthcare anything but universal healthcare. Its crazy how just using a different name can change everyone's opinion. btw I am not a communist, I am just a person that speaks for the common people and wants the common people to sieze the means of prodection.

[@hectorvega621]

@@nathansmith8883 What I mean by Joke is that for anyone to take it serious it would come as a form of a joke. Something the extreme right does that somehow make people slowly build up to their ideas.

[@ElliotZealGaming]

As a capitalist I love when the free market makes work conditions unsafe, lowers wages, crushes unions, promotes environmentally and ethically destructive production, excludes 90% of the population from prosperity. I also love 5 year old kids, Elon Musk, and 4 Chan

[@freddytang2128]

As a conservative myself, I find it idiotic for someone to bash socialism if they dont even have a remotely accurate definition of socialism. Its like saying Islam is stupid because Muslims believe in Buddha

[@iammrbeat]

Preach!

[@charlesspringer4709]

There was certainly a committee involved that worked to make it simple yet understandable for the age group, and like committees in general, we see the result. Check how you are supposed to plan lessons to meet common core type goals.

[@freddytang2128]

@@charlesspringer4709 I mean even if you had to rephrase certain concepts to meet educational standards or be age appropriate, you can’t dumb it down too much. It’s like saying “what is a Muslim? Someone that don’t drink. What is a Hindu? Someone that don’t eat steak”

[@mariegandy5864]

Muslims believe in Allah, Buddhist believe Buddha :)

[@youknowme1475]

@@mariegandy5864it was supposed to be an example if you didn’t know

[@OccasionallyBored]

I feel that socialism, communism, marxism, etc lost its true definition in the US because of politicians wrongly and overusing the term.

[@melelconquistador]

And revisionist leftists like Trotskyists muddy it more.

[@Pingijno]

feature not a bug

[@rn6312]

@@melelconquistador Feel free to give a definition of what socialism, communism and marxism is, and how they're different from one another.

[@T.N.S.L.P.P.B.N.T.S.O]

The reason why they lost their definition were because the only thing that all those countries that tried it were just tryna be in control and regardless if the socialist utopia is perfect it won't work

[@java4653]

Same with Liberal. The USA is based on Liberal Ideals, the US Constitution is a Liberal document. Commies + Conservatives both blame a phantom "Liberalism" It's either going too far (conservatives) or too slow (communism). *Somebody* must be to blame!

[@shellszhine]

bro, I lost it when they said "Socialism bad, Capitalism good!" They're addressing these kids like dogs.

[@TommieTheCommie]

Nothing more to the overlords, The best you are viewed by the rich elite is a value of labor to be completed, And to be the product and consumer of this system, You lose they win

[@jeremiahcastle388]

Well on a simple level both statements are true :)

[@imamorp7980]

@@jeremiahcastle388 You could make the argument that socialism is bad, although I disagree, but you definitely can't argue that capitalism is good, its clearly a flawed system where almost everyone is a victim to some degree.

[@christophersnedeker]

It's literally like animal farm.

[@chebic5095]

No fr. That's the type of stuff I'd say when I MOCK captialist propaganda. They said that unabashedly

[@DahVoozel]

I like how when anti-Socialists bring up the Pilgrims they neglect to mention the reform that 'fixed' the pilgrim's economy. They went from sharing everything and having the community leaders split it up according to need to pooling all _surplus_ and having the community leaders divide it according to need.

[@jamesmiller5331]

Just stop. You're going to have to pay your own fucking bills. Get over it.

[@iammrbeat]

"surplus" is definitely the key word

[@RobespierreThePoof]

Very good point. I totally forgot about this until you mentioned it, even though I read it many years ago. There's so much which that historical example points to...

[@charlesspringer4709]

You forgot all the starving to death. 45 of the 102 died the first winter. Your propaganda is weak.

[@aidanb.c.2325]

And the Pilgrims were completely bailed out by a very socially oriented society - that of the Wampanoag.

[@Spongebrain97]

Oh man at 14:20 where the book blames socialism for why the pilgrims struggled in the beginning is so mind numbingly hilarious and painful 😂. Nevermind the bad soil, terrible winter, and disease

[@WaluigiisthekingASmith]

Maybe the worst "socialism is when no food" I've ever seen

[@Spongebrain97]

​ @WaluigiisthekingASmith that but also they frame it like sharing was their downfall. According to the book a small community of 100 people thousands of miles from home in a totally different continent and no hope of immediate assistance should not have banded together to preserve and share their limited resources 😂

[@linkly9272]

@@Spongebrain97 Maybe if they'd asked nicely for a bailout or convinced the natives to invest into their colony's startup they would have been fine.

[@Urapuppy]

“Let’s blame socialism for something that happened 200 years before the word existed.”

[@onbearfeet]

Or the fact that most of them weren't particularly skilled farmers and none of them understood the growing environment.

[@thespiceman9367]

I lean more favorably towards socialism. However, I appreciate your willingness to fully understand what socialism is despite your disagreement with it. Red scare level misinformation is bad for all of us, and this criticism of it is needed

[@krmendozaa]

I feel the same way and also really appreciate the way Mr Beat analyzes and breaks things down even if he may not also feel the same way.

[@binbows2258]

To be honest I don't think socialism is needed, thats why I don't really want it. To be fair I do think it works, I just think it is inferior to a heavily regulated mixed economy. I like heavily regulated mixed capitalist economies because it retains the competition and innovation of capitalism while also introducing the workers' rights, equality, and social safety of socialism.

[@iammrbeat]

Thank you, and I love your pfp

[@RobespierreThePoof]

The Cold War gave Americans a chronic problem in understanding what socialism actually is and what it aims to do. With Soviet nuclear missiles aimed at their heads for years, they were left very confused if not paranoid. And this is despite the fact that parts of the US system have been socialized since the 1930s, including social welfare programs that all Americans seem to want. It's a sad situation.

[@idontwantahandlethough]

@@RobespierreThePoof I mean that's true, but I think it's _always_ going to be the case that populist assholes end up pretending they're into socialism [before they get power] because it's a pretty direct and effective way of saying "I care about the problems of the common man". And then obviously when they seize control of the gov't they drop all pretense. It's still just a natural consequence of bad people pretending they care about the populous, and socialism being an ideology that cares about the citizenry (in theory anyway), and thus claiming to be a socialist is a decent cover for bad people to do bad things in the name of good. The only reason we don't see that in the U.S. is because you can just straight up be an awful person and a good fraction of people will cheer you on.. so it's not really necessary lol 🤷‍♂😬

[@Swedishmafia101MemeCorporation]

Brought to you by the "stop politicizing our kids"- crowd

[@sekaiyoru01]

Oh ok so that automatically makes your politicization justifiable then?

[@peanutsveryepicchannel8699]

@@sekaiyoru01 waffling?

[@ElectricAlien577]

@@sekaiyoru01 What?

[@humbleopionist4366]

He means to ask if this book series means it’s justifiable to teach Lqbtq and other stuff kids should not be learning about to kids

[@sicker889]

@@sekaiyoru01 your stupid

[@WaluigiisthekingASmith]

If anyone calls themselves unbiased rather than acknowledging that they are biased and explaining how they're trying to avoid their own bias you can probably discount whatever they're trying to tell you

[@PlatinumAltaria]

It's the same way that people who say they're being "logical" are actually being irrational.

[@jjr5233]

@@PlatinumAltaria Typicaly the "facts don't care about feelings" crowd- who then proudly base everything else in the discussion on feelings

[@binbows2258]

@@PlatinumAltaria It's like when antivaxxers call everyone who disagrees with them "sheeple" without realizing they are the ones who are getting played. It's quite sad.

[@PlatinumAltaria]

@@jjr5233 It's silly too, because emotions are important in decision-making. Running over a deer because you're in a hurry to get to work is rational, but it's also psychopathic.

[@iammrbeat]

*probably

[@Justin_Beaver564]

I'm not a Socialist but a lot of these terms are so over used by political partisans that they lose their meaning over time

[@jplayzow]

If wanting taxes to be used to fund stuff is socialism we're basically all marxists

[@arjaygee]

Many of the people who overuse "socialist," "Marxist," and "communist" either don't know what they're talking about, are purposely misusing the words as red meat, or are just repeating talking points from propagandized media.

[@PseudoSpaceMarine]

That’s the issue with relying too much on labels rather than listening to someone’s actual ideas and judging them on its merits.

[@matthew5386]

especially the word tankie. As a card-caring member of a communist party I have heard it be used constantly. the term originates from members of the communist party of great britain who supported the soviet union invading Hungary with tanks in 1956. it is NOT for people like bernie sanders or joe biden or whoever fox news wants to slate.

[@wakemiamigreatagain]

I would argue that these words HAVE already lost thier meaning. Words like "socialism", "marxism", "liberal", "woke", and many more are just trigger words that many use in an effort to insult the people they disagree with. They use them interchangeably and with little to no effort to show that they are using the words based on their actual definition.

[@fatcat1414]

The fun of these 'conservatism for kids' projects is that in their quest to simplify things, they pretty much go against what most people try to teach kids regardless of political affiliation. Sharing is bad. Caring for those different or worse off than you is bad. Thinking about any consequences beyond your immediate personal gain is bad. The authors reduce themselves to cartoon villains.

[@apolloandwarrior_3229]

It's why conservatism is falling apart. Lack of empathy is core to their beliefs

[@dickcastle]

and they're almost always "christians " too....

[@BishopWalters12]

@@apolloandwarrior_3229 The so called woke liberals that assaulted Riley on a college campus for wanting to protect female sports have empathy? LOL, that is cute.

[@ianhansen6840]

Excellent demonstration of empathy, fellow commenters! That was sarcasm, because you clearly have no empathy for conservatives... Does that bother you? Hypocrisy, I mean?

[@fatcat1414]

@@ianhansen6840 Empathy is not the same as having warm fuzzy feelings about self-interested people and letting them hurt you because of their irrational fears. If you are an ass, no level of empathy is going to make you appear like less of an ass.

[@RoyaltyInTraining.]

I am a socialist and I can confirm, my highest political goal is taking away your toothbrush.

[@yagomizuma2275]

-royalty in training 2023

[@JamesWagner-vv9iz]

You aren't a socialist you are a bigot

[@ee-yf3ot]

So that’s where it went. I want it back you little shit

[@mrrowwmeoww]

as a communist i wont stop until every toothbrush is turned into a fine dust

[@heather2503]

As a slightly different socialist, I'm coming for your doorknob

[@josephj9828]

Lol, I lost it when they blamed socialism for the Pilgrims dying.

[@rn6312]

I know, it's like *SHARING BAD* lol

[@willmont8258]

How about all the people who died in those socialist countries like the USSR, and China, and North Korea?

[@kelpermoon23]

You dont know the story? They tried a communal life style where they shared everything and many starved, than they decided to give plots of lands to each person to use and trade with as they like, which resulted in a surplus of food. search Plymouth commune

[@smokythebearreal1181]

​@kelpermoon23 Give plots of land? It was NEVER THIERS as native americans didn't understand the concept of privatizing land because it sounds dystopian to buy land. The pilgrims thought the land was free and conquered it. The answer was clear and they stole land, sure they were starving and dieing but they were invading in what they thought was a whole ass species of human in an alien world (litteraly they knew nothing)

[@willmont8258]

@@smokythebearreal1181 Stole land from people who didn't believe in private property and therefor didn't own it? Yet those native Americans spent plenty of time at war with each other over the land long before the Pilgrims came.

[@sebces2576]

I especially love how by “think for yourself” they mean “think how we’ve taught you to think”.

[@iammrbeat]

It reminds me of that Onion video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKHOgninbJqsZ5o

[@volks5965]

@@iammrbeat That's some high quality satire holy god.

[@RedKincaid]

If you ask most members of my family, the definition of brainwashing is anything that makes you disagree with them

[@g0aty685]

@@iammrbeat The onion is amazing

[@BuffaloSentry]

I want to point out the irony of the socialism book being advertised as "free" lol

[@iammrbeat]

Those bums lol

[@charlesspringer4709]

How is that irony? You can't give a gift if you are pro-free will?

[@BuffaloSentry]

@charlesspringer4709 not at all, you can. Its ironic in the sense that I dont think they thought of the way it would look, the fact they offered a book for free in of itself is not wrong

[@randomboy3m98]

Voluntarily giving out something free is not socialism.

[@BuffaloSentry]

@randomboy3m98 my friends, this was a joke, one that parially belongs to the state so Im assuming the goverment took the parts you didnt get

[@baseballmastero5853]

A lot of this book uses the idea of "socialism is when no toothbrush", when socialism allows you to keep your personal property, including your toothbrush.

[@Historia.Magistra.Vitae.]

There is no difference between "personal" property and "private" property. Such distinction is arbitrary and does not exist in reality... which is why you need a totalitarian entity to enforce it.

[@baseballmastero5853]

@@Historia.Magistra.Vitae. Yes, there is. Personal property is items such as your home, car, pet, phone, ect. Private property is factories, farmland, or any land owned my a corporation/company.

[@Historia.Magistra.Vitae.]

@@baseballmastero5853 : So car would still be "personal" property even if someone would start an Uber business? House would still be "personal" property even if someone would start being a landlord? C'mon now, you are not thinking properly.

[@baseballmastero5853]

@@Historia.Magistra.Vitae. Uber does not own the car, so its still personal property. And if a landlord rented a house, if the house is in the landlords name, its still personal property.

[@peanutsveryepicchannel8699]

@@Historia.Magistra.Vitae. Private property = Means of production. Personal property = laptop, car, journal, toothbrush, razor, etc., etc.

[@JourneyLT]

Socialism is when the government does stuff, and the more stuff it does, the more socialister it is.

[@charlesspringer4709]

Thank you Kamala.

[@Riskofdisconnect]

And if it does a whole lotta stuff, that's communism

[@Tuned_Rockets]

And if it does a whole lot of stuff, it's communism

[@bojassem12]

And if the government does a lot of stuff they are communists! 💀

[@SpiralSine6]

And when it does a REAL lotta stuff, it’s communism!

[@ZagnutBar]

I just migrated from the US to "socialist" New Zealand where I now suffer under the oppression of getting my insulin and insulin pump supplies absolutely free. More oppression like this, please. By the way, the income tax rate here is virtually the same as in the USA, but we don't have any extra line items like health insurance premiums, unemployment, etc. Those line items in US paychecks make for a defacto income tax which nobody ever talks about when discussing the "low taxes" in the USA. We actually get to keep a larger portion of our paychecks here, AND the healthcare is almost entirely free.

[@cgmason7568]

Just gonna ignore all the stuff they pulled during covid? Kk

[@godhimself1128]

​@@cgmason7568New Zealand has some of the lowest COVID deaths in the world while US has flown past 1 million. I'm impressed by what they pulled off!

[@cgmason7568]

@@godhimself1128 a country of more than 300 mil, you also had tyrannical lockdowns with criminal prosecutions

[@godhimself1128]

@@cgmason7568 Ah yes saving lives is tyranny XD

[@cgmason7568]

@@godhimself1128 ah yes saving life's from a disease with a 99.5% survival rate

[@lidarman2]

When I was in high school (1983) I took this class called World Issues. One of the best classes I ever had. The instructor was basically a socialist. We studied current political news, the Russian and China revolutions, and nuclear war. We learned how to spot propaganda in both political and advertising. We learned negotiation by playing a game called diplomacy. It was a hard class but kinda the opposite of home school in all senses. Imagine a class in detecting propaganda--you start questioning the motives of the class! :P

[@iammrbeat]

Did the instructor tell the class that they were a socialist?

[@ruedelta]

@@iammrbeat What are the standards for instructors in terms of disclosure of political sentiments/identity? Or at least, what do you have in mind? I for one can't recall most of my instructors explicitly stating their positions prior to lecture, and I'd like to think that was because the curriculum was designed to teach how to think, so the positions didn't matter.

[@St.JohnWort]

When someone tells you that they are of a specific political affiliation and then claim that they intend to help you spot propaganda, they aren't helping you spot propaganda. They are teaching you how to see anything that goes against their political ideology as propaganda regardless of how correct or innocuous it is, and to see everything from their perspective. The same old contradiction of "We are the government and are here to help" is a perfect analogy to someone that claims "I am a Marxist and here is how to spot Capitalist propaganda".

[@Eyclonus]

Diplomacy is great for learning scheming and even better for ruining friendships

[@RobinTheBot]

​@@ruedeltaThere are none, but anyone outside the norm is easy to spot and tend to be open about it. Thank goodness, too, nothing is worse than teachers who refuse to be individuals.

[@ryry_2720]

I love how every time most conservatives define socialism it’s just “Socialism is when government is evil and you can’t own car”

[@dragos1239]

socialism is when *T R A I N*

[@tjarkschweizer]

Cars produced by the soviet union: I guess we don't exist...

[@Samurai-ss5qs]

​@@tjarkschweizerLada is my love. 😍

[@rubenkulikyan3283]

Comrade you are going to Gulag😮

[@realdragon]

Because conservative governments can't be evil and you do whatever you want to

[@ShirleyTimple]

Imagine creating an entire genre of "politics for actual babies" and THEN accusing others of grooming children...

[@Wico90YT]

The "for dummies" series is really good actually

[@Jay_in_Japan]

There's quite the enormous difference between indoctrination and grooming

[@pcrbr]

At least when right wingers “indoctrinate” kids it doesn’t allow them to ruin their bodies physically and mentally

[@ShirleyTimple]

@@Jay_in_Japan they are literally the exact same thing. Molding and shaping an undeveloped brain to control the owner of said brain. The fact that you try and make a distinction is telling...

[@Somebodyherefornow]

@@ShirleyTimpleones for children and the other’s for all

[@michaelduguay7698]

Why does it feel like all the parents who complain about public schools indoctrinating their kids end up using homeschool curriculum which is completely one-sided and unnuanced, and tends to only affirm the parents narrow religeous and ideological views about the world, as if maybe they were being a bit dishonest about the whole indoctrination thing from the start?

[@paprikashman]

I don’t know.

[@aaronTGP_3756]

It feels like that because that's exactly what it is.

[@jamesmiller5331]

It's better to have some weirdo teacher with a pink mohawk encouraging them to chop their PP off, for sure.

[@obi-wankenobi111]

well it doesn't really matter cause it isn't your kid so get over it.

[@jingles123456789ify]

Because they feel like it's the only way for their morals to be taught to their kids, not what the left wants

[@WaluigiisthekingASmith]

This is a great book for insight into how some hyperconservative/hyperlibertarians think.

[@bighillraft]

This really shows why ideology of any kind is bad. It's almost like choosing a word to base literally every single opinion on is not a good way to engage with politics

[@ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty]

​@@bighillraft No, man, he's right. Ideology is not inherently bad. Come on this book series and this company are VERY CLEARLY pushing a right-wing POV, and they're doing an awful job at it. Not only does it make the right look bad but it's actively disincentivizing the reader from engaging in any sort of left-wing politics. This book series IS right-wing propaganda. I have never been fed misinformation from an educational left-wing source as big as EverBright Media or PragerU. The scale just doesn't compare. The right-wing actively feeds us far more misinformation on social & fiscal issues than any left-wing group in America ever has. It's happening today as we speak.

[@Edgar_Hoods]

Exactly, and it should be taken as how Hyperconservatives and Hyperlibertarians think.

[@shjilz]

​@@bighillraft Well. I think the value of organizing how different governments operate and how different people think society should operate is worth the downside of dividing people, because there are objectively worse ways to run societies (fascism) and we should know what it entails so we can avoid and shame it. I think your issue is with how the individualistic nature of most US society, the incredible lack of community we all share, drives many of us to search for community online, where we are then roped into echochambers and further isolated from the real world. Online is where ideology becomes truly toxic because lonely people are exploited by it like they're in a cult. If our society was less afraid of real life community, adults discussing political ideology in real life and identifying themselves with the markers of ideologies they generally agree with would be very civil.

[@iammrbeat]

Well dang, that was how I thought for most of my life.

[@maddie_1122]

"positive, patriotic, and *unbiased*" is sentence of the week as far as i'm concerned

[@tim___2966]

"We highlight the good parts, we support our country without justification, and we provide a completly neutral guide to you, please enjoy your red scare propaganda now."

[@scrubbl3dubbl391]

I think it's insanely funny that there's a part in the book that literally says "Capitalism Good!" and "Socialism Bad!" because that's essentially the whole argument the book is trying to make.

[@asbest2092]

have you ever seen any comunist to repent for the red terrorism they committed in russia? Even nazis repented for their crimes, but not comunists. The red terrorism? The genocide of the red khmers? The cultural revolution? No remorse.

[@ilfoxyy]

Ah, wouldn't you like to live in a world where rich people strive to make everyone who's not rich as them lose money and go broke, little Timmy?

[@graham.crackers]

The fact that I combed through the entire video to find that part 😂 (it's at 17:39 if anybody else is wondering)

[@asbest2092]

@@ilfoxyy answer the question, little timmy. And the world you described has never existed.

[@9tales9f]

Its not even trying to argue, its just stating opinions lmao

[@MinisDunyasi5]

Most of the money they spent for the Kids Guide seems to be for advertisement and to make it look as “innocent” as possible. They don’t seem to have spent much time or money to make it factual, educational, or unbiased. Propaganda indeed.

[@alonkatz4633]

That's how propaganda works, sadly. A wolf in sheep's clothing.

[@iammrbeat]

Yeah, most of their posts, videos, and books are fairly neutral, but then all of a sudden that jump in with propaganda every once in awhile. PragerU often works this way as well.

[@charlesspringer4709]

Probably made quickly by a small committee with bullet points in order to have all the books ready for a target date of last fall to get into this years classrooms or some such. The usual stuff.

[@lsmmoore1]

@@alonkatz4633 Yep. Most of what they do tends to go towards a shiny veneer and bad intentions beneath the surface.

[@milpool8577]

Scamming republicans is one of the most lucrative businesses in this sad country.

[@iammrbeat]

Just plain scamming the easily manipulated

[@loksoraldarkwatcher9598]

I'm not sure it's just Republicans. Left and right wingers get scammed on the regular by grifters. It isn't about right or left, it's about being vigilant for grifts, propaganda and being observant.

[@thevagueyeti8710]

Scamming everyone seems to be the norm for political KZbinrs/influencers these days.

[@parkmannate4154]

To the other comments: Scamming angry people who are less educated is easier, thats why GOP scammers work much better. Hell Atwater in the late 70s said he took GOP voter sign up lists and sold them to marketers because they were easier targets

[@jpotter2086]

@@iammrbeat That is the party's target audience. The overlap with evangelicals and MLM cults is no coincidence. The hucksters took over the party postwar and spent 50yrs purging it.

[@8BitSamurai]

These books are the equivalent of Fox News, just if it was hosted by the characters from Paw Patrol.

[@murpl1462]

It’s the disinformation junior channel

[@Otterlord14]

Amazing way to put it.

[@Azact]

You say that while conusming CNN and MSNBC which totally isnt far-left propaganda

[@SiVlog1989]

One of the frequent ideas I've seen labelled as "Socialist" in the United States is a similar system to the National Health Service, like that we have in the UK. The UK as a whole, by and large, see the NHS as a treasured institution, providing medical services for everyone, regardless of income. As long as they reside in the UK, they can use NHS treatment.

[@bonda_racing3579]

Yeah true here in the states we have the interstate which is a public institution funded by the same method the NHS is funded. With taxes.

[@koolmckool7039]

@@bonda_racing3579 To be fair, that's starting to take a major downturn, but that's because American's don't care enough about infrastructure in the first place.

[@Oldass_Deadass_dumbass_channel]

​@@bonda_racing3579yeah, they have it to benefit the healthcare of the citizens, we have it to make companies more profit, because that's what's the interstate was designed for. Political lobbying is great and doesn't fill me with radical anger at all!

[@alelzarterl212]

It's very unfortunate that it's underfunded. The same issue plagues Italy. Healthcare is very underfunded.

[@SorowFame]

I have no idea how people in the US can claim that public healthcare wouldn’t work or that it’d be too expensive or whatever else when it’s been proven to work in multiple countries. I guess it’s the American Exceptionalism at work.

[@NickVS]

According to them, socialism is the government owning industry but what we have is the industry owning the government because that's better.

[@T.N.S.L.P.P.B.N.T.S.O]

If you think that's capitalism then you're wrong what the u.s have it's corporativism

[@dylangolden30]

​@@T.N.S.L.P.P.B.N.T.S.OThat's the inevitable result of capitalism.

[@DrakesdenChannel]

​@@dylangolden30And an authoritarian slave state is the inevitable and instantaneous result of socialism. Difference is state restriction of liberty is core to socialism as people do not freely and continually aabsolve themselves of rights to property and self-agency and it produces only meager, inefficient industrial development IF the core was agrarian, whereas capitalism requires no government and produces magnitudal wealth. If government permits lobbying, the problem is the corruption in the government. Government is not needed to own and trade. We lived it so you would know better.

[@rojaalborada]

@@T.N.S.L.P.P.B.N.T.S.O the state only exists to mediate the conflicting interests of the two classes anyway. because influence of capital in government is highly rewarded, it is an inescapable outcome of capitalism when profit is king.

[@dylangolden30]

@valcaron Yeah, ok. I used to be a libertarian before I understood how things actually work. It's just capitalism. It's a feature, not a bug. If you wield power through wealth and exploitation because that is how the system works, it follows that you will wield political power whenever possible. It also follows that government will follow the money and align its interests with the capitalist, allowing them to write the laws.

[@EforEvery]

This comment section will be fun

[@iammrbeat]

Oh definitely 😇

[@Imsickofallyallseeingmyname]

​@iammrbeat don't we all suffer from our comment section habits?

[@beorlingo]

Fun is what life is all about. Trust this old geezer. Fun and values. Those are the two things. Three things: Fun, values and free speech are what life is all about. Fun, values, free speech and the right to open carry tactical nukes. We'll get there eventually!

[@tylerhenderson5871]

Nothing but the most respectful and well-articulated discourse known to man.

[@waynereeb479]

​@@iammrbeatStop being objective when it comes to socialism

[@xblafren]

It's absolutely insane to just see the covers of these books and think "These are the people that call themselves 'free thinkers'"

[@Psyckonautic]

I feel this, I'm so tired of people calling others "sheep" when they're the ones who regurgitate anything their told

[@rubixtheslime]

they are free thinkers though, completely free from thinking. that or they're so against free stuff that they avoid thinking because of it being free.

[@xblafren]

@@rubixtheslime “I avoid free thinking because it’s free and free things is socialism” is fantastic thank you

[@willfilmon182]

Are you a "free thinker" if you wouldn't consider some of the ideas in this book and don't want others to do the same? You are what you accuse others of being coming from the other side, kinda hypocritical.

[@xblafren]

@@willfilmon182 I have considered some of them, and what I have decided is that I disagree with almost all of them. This is because I am an adult who has been raised to think for myself. Children do not do this. They read and do as they are told. If they are handed all of these books and told “this is the absolute truth, verified by Real American Patriots™️, there is no considering, only believing. Very simple difference. The right should know not to ever even attempt a “hypocrite” argument. It’s not hypocritical to dismiss the quality of something when you hear “the pilgrims failed because of communism”

[@gast321]

After watching this video, I wouldn't be surprised if the creators of this book also thought that the idea of "sharing is caring" is a Marxist doctrine

[@iammrbeat]

Jesus called people Marxists for sharing all the time.

[@warlordofbritannia]

@@iammrbeat Let’s be honest, the people that made these books would think Jesus was “woke” if they met him, especially with the whole “it is easier to get a camel through the head of needle than for a rich man to gain the Kingdom of Heaven”

[@Fister-kw5un]

Sharing is caring is voluntary. Marxism is not.

[@gast321]

@@Fister-kw5un I'm not sure if the creators of that book are capable of comprehending why a person would ever willingly share lol

[@Ry_TSG]

@@Fister-kw5un Except for the part where Marx said that the whole system is supposed to be democratic... but hey, who cares about facts?

[@lizzycorvus5109]

It tickles me that anticommunists act like Russia, China and Cuba were wealthy democracies before Marxist governments took power, when in reality they all had widespread poverty. The Tsars had secret police and encouraged antisemitic violence, and Batista in Cuba was a US-backed dictator. Even as a Marxist, I have a lot of criticisms of all those nations' policies, but they're not based on fallaciously ignoring various factors that can explain say, Cuba's relative lack of wealth. Also as a trans person, when conservatives bang on about freedom, I remember they'd call me a pedo for existing.

[@cgmason7568]

Just gonna ignore places like Venezuela then? K

[@8is]

There is nothing that can destroy a country like communism.

[@stella-kc7tp]

@@cgmason7568corruption is not exclusive to communism lmao. Anti socialists point fingers at failed communist/socialist regimes while ignoring all the awful corruption and poverty of capitalist dictatorships. The US overthrew basically every socialist regime within South America and replaced them with far right authoritarian dictatorships. I’ve been to argentina. The small city I visited had a plaza that was absolutely COVERED in the names of all the people who had disappeared. Guess who killed them? The Argentine anti communist alliance.

[@warrioroflight6872]

I never at any point assumed that countries like Russia, China, and Cuba were happy wealthy democracies before the Marxists took over. From what I've seen in my continued research however, the Marxists always managed to make things worse than they already were. I'm reading "Bloodlands: Europe between Hitler and Stalin" right now and it's absolutely heartbreaking what the USSR looked like under Stalin. And Mao was just as bad. Contrast those two with the tsars and emperors of the past who opened up the grain reserves whenever famine struck, and it becomes all the more appalling at how many people starved to death under Communism, many of which could have been spared if Stalin and Mao cared more about innocent lives than anything that they thought would tarnish their international image. As for Cuba's failure due to lack of resources, that's not a good enough explanation. Russia and China were both rich in resources and still failed, and they propped up a lot of smaller Marxist states including Cuba. Marxist doctrines controlled literally a third of the planet and they still couldn't build up the hyperproductive, happy, egalitarian societies that were promised. Capitalism, for all its flaws, did a much better job of all that with less land, resources, and people. You can read "The girl with seven names" which is written by a North Korean defector, and she'll talk about life in North Korea during its most happy and prosperous times-those being when the Soviets and Chinese were giving them tons of resources-and even then, her society sounds terrifying to us because of the insane cult of personality surrounding the so-called "Great Leader", the forced labor camps, the secret police force, the severe travel restrictions, and the extremely unfair Seonbung class system. Also, I don't know anyone who would call you a pedo just for being trans. You can do what you want with your own body. You may regret it later on, but that's not something I or any Conservative is going to criticize you for. It was your decision and you get the consequences be they good or bad. Now if you're planning to push your ideology onto children and encourage them to do something permanent to themselves at a young age, that would be a different matter entirely. I'm not going to make assumptions on where you got your arguments from, but they honestly sound to me like straw-manning.

[@ianjames8140]

@8is American intervention gives it some healthy competition

[@ZephLodwick]

"positive, patriotic, and unbiased" One of these things is not like the others.

[@iammrbeat]

It's certainly darn difficult to mix "positive" and "patriotic" with "unbiased."

[@SaberToothPortilla]

The whole "How are you going to be motivated to do anything when the government is taking care of you!?" is always hilarious to me. They're really trying so hard not to say the quiet part out loud, that being "How are you going to be motivated to do anything when you're not under threat of homelessness, starvation, or death due to illness!?", becuase I genuinely don't know of anyone who's in favor of policies ensuring much more than that, and most people do in fact want *more* than that and are willing to work for it. If anything, and this is anecdotal of course so grain of salt, but most people that I know who have been on welfare were much more productive when they had enough income in place to ensure a stable status quo for themselves and/or their families. If you don't think evictions, repossessions, foreclosures, medical issues etc. don't have a profoundly negative impact on people's productivity, probably more so than any supposed "laziness", you're out of your mind. And I'll admit, it's not quite as simple as "Make sure no one's homeless and productivity will improve", but even if it isn't sufficient... I think it's pretty obvious that it's *necessary*.

[@kiwitrainguy]

They also won't talk about people getting dividends from shares and landlords collecting rent as being lazy either even though those people don't have to lift a finger to get that money.

[@JamesWagner-vv9iz]

You are LITERALLY A Trump loving bigot. That is NOT THE PRINCIPLES OF SOCIALISM. You say "people need to work for things" is a bigoted world view because that discourages people who are disabled and cant have free socialized medicine even if it is considered that "oh you can work you are choosing this lifestyle this is EnAbLiNg" disgusting trump supporter and a transphobic bigot honestly disgusting that you call yourself a socialsist

[@humbleopionist4366]

Many Americans are being kept under the poverty line because of welfare. If they earned more or worked harder to get more money, they would lose the qualifications for welfare, which they live off of. That created no reason to actually get a raise, because if you did, you would just be shooting yourself in the foot. These things do exist, and news flash, people do have to work to get money. You guys are always so ignorant lol, you guys are ignorant in the topics you profess to be experts about and want to change.

[@gabrielcarvalho4853]

Without the threat of starvation, fatbergs from sewers aint cleaning themselves, ore wont be mined, and underwater cables wont be fixed. People will just rot at home scrolling through their phone until they die.

[@ztl2505]

Surely “having food to eat“ is the most pure, distilled form of the profit motive. It’s almost hilarious to argue the Pilgrims were starving because they couldn’t profit enough from farming and just didn’t feel like doing it.

[@zapazap]

What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul? It is of little or no profit to try to farm the soil if one lacks the knowhow to do so.

[@jdotoz]

That's not really the argument. It's more like "The less your individual effort matters to your individual result, the less incentive you have to provide more effort."

[@kennethkennelty7652]

You may have missed this point, it's to indoctrinate the parents. They get indoctrinated by instructing/explaining the text to their children.

[@iammrbeat]

I think it's twofold. Both can be indoctrinated with it.

[@PlatinumAltaria]

I don't think many parents are taking their kids out of school to teach them the evils of socialism unless they're already pretty well indoctrinated to begin with.

[@Abs0luteCha0s]

We need to wait until the children become old enough to understand politics to teach them about it. On one side, socialism is a terribly failing ideology that has failed on every continent, in every civilization, and every geography. On the other, telling kids what to think is dangerous. Both the right and left are guilty of this. In short, let kids come to their own conclusions.

[@franciscoacevedo3036]

​​@@iammrbeatMr beat legally I gotta remind you that fox "NEWS" has argued it's ENTERTAINMENT not news :33 Tucker Carlson has argued the same in court and that no serious person would take what Tucker Carlson says as fact and all of that was prior to the dominion lawsuit so Mr beat you may now proceed to blast Fox "a la NorCoreana" as pure propaganda

[@jpotter2086]

@@leenonymous5592 Indoctrination for the prospect, reinforcement for the initiated. Liturgical cult mantras.

[@pieface778899]

Oh my gosh this unlocked a memory for me! I remember watching at least one of those Learn Our History videos in my social studies class! It’s so crazy hearing where it actually came from, but I went to school in Tennessee so… I also came to realize years later that the same teacher who showed us that video would tell us about the Great Replacement Theory as fact multiple times throughout the school year.

[@Uffda.]

😬

[@dennisd9554]

George Orwell's 1984 and Animal Farm were supposed to be warnings, not instruction manuals.

[@HelloImClipClop]

@@InsertNameHere911what???

[@humbleopionist4366]

What? Buddy do you realize how stupid that comment is? Communism by definition means that a higher power must fairly distribute resources. If it wasn’t a higher power, then communism doesn’t work because humans inevitably will find a way to control the system for their gain. A higher power controlling all resources is totalitarian. The end result for all communist countries is a totalitarian government, like it or not.

[@Steve-q9q]

@@InsertNameHere911 that sounds like China

[@DecMurphy]

People are opposed to socialism until they learn what it actually is. I'm a socialist and I welcome legitimate criticisms of socialism because they help us learn and develop our ideas, but most of the time we don't get legitimate criticisms, we get people attacking something they've made up and called socialism.

[@sasho_b.]

As an MLM, do you mean marxian or non-marxian socialist? Lukewarm liberals/social democrats not using words correctly are the bane of my existence so please tell me you are using it properly. Also, socialism is when the government does stuff and the more stuff the more socialism, as we all well know.

[@twonumber22]

​@@sasho_b. If that's the bane of your existence then you should probably go outside. Lol cmon

[@esbenm6544]

@@sasho_b. You don't count

[@DecMurphy]

@@sasho_b. I mean the common ownership of the means of production and their operation for use within a democratically planned economy. I specify democratically planned because I agree with Mr Beat that command economies are not good, they're not effective in meeting social needs because authoritarianism degrades the quality of the information you need to properly plan an economy, plans have to be formulated and updated continually in response to a constant stream of data gathered from the bottom up, otherwise you're basically just guessing. But yeah non-socialists are indoctrinated with all of these wild ideas about socialism and it's hard to even respond to them because they're not talking about socialism, they're more often than not describing the economic oligarchy of capitalism and then just labelling it socialism.

[@sasho_b.]

@@DecMurphy Well, not a liberal, thats good to know. Aight wish ya the best and lets hope people start learning the meanings of words, would really help our cause here. Communication is the first step i think in advancing worker interests. So kinda sad most people dont know what socialism even means.

[@businessgoosep936]

I'm glad to see someone who promotes capitalism not be completely stupid in there arguments against socialism. thank you Mr. Beat i have a lot of respect for you.

[@icysaracen3054]

I find it weird that this US style of education is starting to mimic closely to the Soviet children education system.

[@Abi-sh4pt]

depending on the area its becoming a conservative komsomol of sorts, unable to critique American history.

[@binbows2258]

@@Abi-sh4pt It's always been kind of baffling to me that many political ideologies which are supposedly opposites have so much in common, yet their followers refuse to acknowledge this and instead continue with their cognitive dissonance. Maybe if we all started to realize how similar we all really are, there'd be less conflict in this world.

[@AnnoyingAllie3]

​@@binbows2258It's sad, people vs. people, it's like we are in the same room, but don't think that's the case.

[@iammrbeat]

Thanks for the donation!

[@beorlingo]

It's the decline of the West. All it's ideals inverted.

[@SocialBubblia]

"No motivation to work hard" This reminds me about when someone called out religious people saying "if you need the threat of eternal damnation to be a good person, you're probably a bad person." Like it doesn't even need to be changed much to fit to the situation "if you need the threat of eternal poverty to contribute to society, you are probably what is keeping society stagnant."

[@humbleopionist4366]

So are the welfare programs keeping millions of Americans below the poverty line because if they got a raise they wouldn’t qualify for welfare just not exist? These things do exist. Instead of just hearing a point and thinking it doesn’t exist, think about why somebody might think like that.

[@bear3616]

Doesn’t change the fact that they’re right.

[@bear3616]

@Justexisting-x7r Let me ask you. Do slaves work harder than workers? No, they do not. Why is this? It’s because a worker feels the need to improve and excel to improve his pay, career, status, etc. Having an incentive to work harder is incredibly important and a fact. People will work harder if they are more greatly rewarded. That is what I was talking about. What are you on about dictators?

[@bear3616]

@Justexisting-x7r So you clearly don’t know what slavery is. Capitalism is what brought us out of slavery. The reason slavery is against capitalism is because it violates the persons(slaves) property rights of their own body. And slaves do not work harder than a worker with incentives. Just look at how much richer the North was vs the South. Slaves have no reason to ever out preform. We would he ever do more than the bare minimum? A worker can potentially get promoted or a raise where a slave has nothing. A worker can also go up in the ladder of management if he’s good enough. A slave is in 99% of times a low skill position. A worker has the reasons to what to improve and get new skills where a slave has no reasons to work harder than needed.

[@NicklasZandeVGCP2001]

I think making Socialism itself look bad actually does a disservice to many Americans who had some Socialist leanings. Lincoln was a regular penpal of Karl Marx, and even stated that labor is the equal and even superior of capital, and he was in fact a huge influence on the very progressive Theodore Roosevelt, and Rutherford B. Hayes in his diaries didn't say that many nice things about Capitalism. Also, many people who supported women's sufferage, as well as Civil Rights leaders, such as Martin Luther King Jr., also had Socialist leanings. The fact that these Right-Wingers are trying to use the faces of figures on their propaganda who probably wouldn't agree with them at all really shows how little of a grasp on US History they truly have.

[@cammyman32]

Indeed, this. Bravo to you.

[@Jay_in_Japan]

The USSR, China, Cuba, Venezuela, all helped socialism look as good as it does. So don't forget them

[@makhnothecossack4948]

​​@@Jay_in_JapanUSSR is better than it's reputation, you even got paid according to how you managed to fulfill the quotas during Stalin's (who's claimed to be the worst leader in Soviet Union) times. Most of Vietnam's problems stem from it being mauled by America for two decades, and China, well, Mao wasn't a very good economic planner, that I do admit. Venezuela again, has 50% of the means of production in said country privately owned.

[@Jay_in_Japan]

@@makhnothecossack4948 Wow, I couldn't imagine someone in the 21st century defending the USSR and even Stalin the Mass Murderer

[@guywexler4386]

@Jay_in_Japan your are talking about authoritarian communist countries, nowadays, there are plenty of socialist countries that are doing just fine It is very sad that US polls repeatedly showed that a significant, even above 50% of the population want universal Healthcare and other similar features, but any politician who tries to introduce such a policy will be called "a socialist" and get shamed

[@nerdwisdomyo9563]

That video was really really good! im not a socialist, but my god socialist ideas are so misrepresented

[@iammrbeat]

Thank you!

[@nerdwisdomyo9563]

@@iammrbeat NO think you

[@melo8049]

“I don’t want the schools to indoctrinate my kid” The parents in question:

[@CrilTump]

Exactly they want to do it themself

[@jdotoz]

​@@CrilTumpThat is our job, after all.

[@Azact]

Sheep

[@maximusthezoura]

Both sides, say and do the same thing.

[@stanchpandora3658]

It is also worth mentioning that some LGBTQ rights are now in Cuba's constitution. Something that America will not be morally able to do for a while. Also considwring the fact that their economy has survived against US sanctions aince the 1960s, you gottagivethem credit for that.

[@Bloodgo]

Survived? With everyone there being Miserable? Seriously?

[@Bloodgo]

@Justexisting-x7r and the fact people liked that comment, people are getting more stupid everyday.

[@wasdered1034]

@@Bloodgo you know , it's kinda hard to survive in blockade from 50 percent of world industry at that time.

[@Bloodgo]

@Justexisting-x7r You misunderstood the comment.

[@Bloodgo]

@Justexisting-x7r plus, he was way too close with Ussr, a dictatorship

[@filrabat1965]

"Socialism" and especially "Communism" are long-time right-wing buzzwords, a synonym for "tyrannically anti-traditional". During the 1960s, signs saying "Race Mixing is Communism" were common among segregationists. That finally drove the matter home for me. These days, I say about all my political positions in general (not just racial ones) "I'm not a communist, just a KAHM-nist".

[@asbest2092]

yeah, they really lied to you about the race mixing. Comunism is a harsh centralization and imperialism. The ussr aimed to make the whole country russian, it tried to eliminate any diversity. From cultural and linguistic, to racial. Russians supplanted the natives from their lands and it stopped only with the fall of the country.

[@kiwitrainguy]

Anything that right-wingers don't like they label it as communist.

[@JamesWagner-vv9iz]

Yes. Honestly if you agree with ANYTHING THAT THE RIGHT SAYS YOU ARE A BIGOTTTTT

[@peanutsveryepicchannel8699]

"communism is based" -dennis prager

[@jennyruth5620]

If I may add my voice to yours, I taught in our public schools for 30 years and not once did I know of any indoctrination or brainwashing going on. We loved our students and did our best for them. ❤👩‍🏫🏫👨‍🏫

[@iammrbeat]

Thank you for your service.

[@AnnoyingAllie3]

Even in this world of misinformation being extremely common, as a student, there's no indoctrination. My history teachers in the past years both explain the dangers of pro-American sugarcoating

[@jpotter2086]

@@AnnoyingAllie3 We had a old guy from Souf Kerruhliner (as he said it!) who was downright subersive in regards to the curriculum. He presented what he was supposed to in th efirst third of class, then closed the book, and really got going. We loved that man. 30yrs ago, and he retired soon after. The kicker ... he drove an orange VW bug (from the '60s, this was way before the newer ones!) an hour each way, for the pay of a high school teacher ... which was extremely low at the time. Man was a saint.

[@charlesspringer4709]

Like minded people will not see any bias and don't need any secret directions or master plan to all work towards the same goals. Like the press in the US which is about 97% Democrats, people from the ed departments and teachers colleges tend to lean one way. Did you notice any lunchroom isolation? Was there a table where the shop teacher and the football coach and the chemistry teacher always sat with a few others (just random) gravitated over time because of they got heat from anyone else they sat with when they expressed an opinion? I did. Every school.

[@Danielle_1234]

In history class I was taught that slavery was good, because the slaves were treated better than how the northern cities treated immigrants. I was taught faulty economic theories and beliefs too.

[@alondor]

You can really tell mr beat is a history teacher when he says “no one is unbiased.” My ap world history teacher said that at least once a day.

[@thomaskole9881]

Its what we were taught at uni-level History BA in our first year

[@LuiDeca]

bullshit. the "no one is unbiased" thing is something activists put in your head so you can support whatever their cause is.

[@theRPGmaster]

That's the most impactful part. I may disagree strongly with some things he said, but that demands a certain level of respect. Although obviously he is pushing a certain political view, which he probably believes in, though I do not.

[@realdragon]

I don't know about that, I had history teacher who didn't speak any of his opinions he was just teaching history as it's written because that was his job. Cool dude but tests hard af

[@joshwhite5730]

I love how respectful, and open to new ideas Mr Beat and his community are.

[@blakelyhall8191]

Honey, there is a big difference between an openness to new ideas and calling out bs propaganda target at kids while also trying to profit from said propaganda at the same time.

[@TihetrisWeathersby]

This is like the Red scare all over again

[@cammyman32]

Indeed it is.

[@WaluigiisthekingASmith]

Im not convinced the second red scare ever really ended

[@presidentJameskpolk-rm8gl]

And that's not a bad thing, it never was. Lmao if you want socialism go cuck to Venezuela.

[@ehtresih9540]

@@WaluigiisthekingASmith it never did, its just hidden like a snake waiting to strike at its prey

[@nobody_expects_me]

That's something I would expect to find on a GTA satire internet page and not reality

[@thereisbloodonmynutsack]

"that's like.... My heccing bideo game satire dude!!!!"

[@einar0801]

@@thereisbloodonmynutsack bro you got him good...

[@JonWintersGold]

Complains about schools indoctrinating their kids. Creates book to indoctrinate their kids.

[@PlatinumAltaria]

Their issue isn't with indoctrination, it's with the WRONG indoctrination.

[@justsomeguy5103]

Don't forget that they're patriotic AND unbiased! Just like the books that are free if you give them $20.

[@cgmason7568]

Ones tax funded the other isn't

[@JonWintersGold]

@@cgmason7568 ones backed by academics, the others backed by the ever declining talibangelicals.

[@cgmason7568]

@@JonWintersGold ah yes "academics" the catch all for bureaucrats in education while citing nothing

[@camipco]

I'm amazed how few people know this. But in the Soviet Union you could own stuff. Specifically, all your personal property, you owned. The food you bought, your clothes, art you made, your kids toys, all that was owned privately by individuals.

[@quakeknight9680]

"The food you bought" on a long breadline "Art you made" which can only be approved by the goverment if it dosen't have a political message they disagree with

[@tulionline1239]

​@quakeknight9680 im 5 months late, im an far left anarchist and despise the soviet union, but breadlines only happened in times of famine, which were surprisingly uncommon,and the same happened in the US during the great depression. This information comes from the soviet archives and the word of people who lived during the USSR. I have nothing to say about the art thing tho, authoritarianism is a bitch.

[@Slim333yBoi]

uh tulion, you're talking to someone who supports authoritianism of capitalism.

[@itsmealex8959]

I'm a socialist and let me tell you, the most challenging obstacle to achieving socialism in the US has been children that read this book.

[@jpotter2086]

Children that read such crap proactively maybe. Their parents are the bigger problem. Children can grow up and change, the parents are lost, and will remain dead weight for decades..

[@charlesspringer4709]

@@jpotter2086 Swooosh!

[@connor3284]

@@jpotter2086 "Children can grow up and change, the parents are lost, and will remain dead weight for decades.." Jesus, I hope you fuckers never win with that mindset. You're going to kill millions again if you get the chance.

[@thenamesianna]

Ong ong

[@LuiDeca]

good. I hope they keep reading it.

[@wilhelm2.769]

As a dane i hate it when american politicians tries to win points on a lack of understanding of out society

[@halbarroyzanty2931]

Can you imagine going back in time to the pilgrims who are dying of starvation in the unforgiving winter and saying to their face "if you guys had actually worked hard you wouldn't be in this situation"

[@trevinburchard6961]

I’m really sad that some kid somewhere out there is having this garbage shoved down their throats because their parents are afraid of them being “indoctrinated”.

[@SpaceHeggo]

I love how diverse in political beliefs this community is, I saw a literal socialist and a conservative right next to each other, it makes me happy

[@fluffly3606]

I consider myself a strongly left-leaning social democrat and my best friend who I trust more than almost anyone else has strong anarcho-capitalist leanings, an ideology which I despise

[@stanchpandora3658]

@@fluffly3606 A lot of my friends are conservative and will vote Republican in 2024, even though I myself am socialist.

[@RapinatorOhYeah]

Sad to see No fellow centerist are here :(

[@SpaceHeggo]

@@RapinatorOhYeah it’s okay, your time will come

[@hellokittybebop]

I'll be real I wouldn't hang out or around a conservative

[@toddb5760]

I think that now, more than at any time during my life (I was born in 1960), people in our country are falling for this type of indoctrination based on shoddy and fallacious arguments that appeal to peoples’ baser instincts (fear and hatred for socialists, immigrants, transgender persons, people who are woke, the list goes on and on these days). We need to be more respectful and empathetic to everyone (yes even to democrats and republicans!). That is what you do on your channel I think and I appreciate it.

[@northchurch753]

This book really just sounds like a way for Mike Huckabee to say "I hate poor people"

[@theRPGmaster]

Well, socialists really want poor people to die, so I guess it's a draw.

[@asbest2092]

why? it's comunists who hate poor people

[@MoolsDogTwoOfficial]

As a Conservative myself, I hate seeing these extremists who want to dictate what should happen and what shouldn't. I personally believe everyone should have their own beliefs, and if it doesn't suit yours, move on. It's that simple.

[@USA_UNITED1776]

That is the absolute dumbest take I have ever heard. So you should never have honest political debates and conversations because other beliefs dont suit yours, and according to you you should just move on. You shouldn't want to dictate what happens, meaning you should resign your right to vote, your whole comment reeks of straight idiocy. Either you gravely miscommunicated, or your mother dropped you on your head as a child.

[@BasedRichardNixon]

You’re no conservative

[@waldothewalrus294]

​@@BasedRichardNixonHow would you define conservatism? One could use a whole host of options... Right-Libertarianism: small Federal (sometimes state) government, deregulated markets, civil liberties protections, gun rights, and a free "marketplace of ideas" Christian Conservatism: promotion of Christian, usually Evangelical, sexual ethics; promotion of Christian symbols and texts in public settings (schools, courthouses, etc) National Conservatism: opposition to immigration, particularly illegal immigration; protectionist trade; promotion of American identity over other identities (religious, ethnic, racial, etc)

[@CouscousEnjoyer]

Tbf, conservatism just means someone who wants to "conserve" tradition (oversimplified of course), so theyre comment isnt really hypocritical at all​@BasedRichardNixon

[@MoolsDogTwoOfficial]

@@CouscousEnjoyer Yes that's what I am. I believe tradition is important in society.

[@allysonbeaulieu7351]

as a socialist, can’t wait to be educated by this book ❤

[@shermanthebear963]

As long as you are not a nationalist 👍

[@thezeronelite]

​@@shermanthebear963Socialists are very rarely nationalists. In fact, socialist movements are known for their staunch opposition to nationalist movements.

[@shermanthebear963]

@@thezeronelite I know that, and I approve of socialist movement. though national socialists online would refer to themselves as just socialist, because for obvious reasons nobody likes national socialists. It is also just not common that people want actual Socialism but don't want Communism, most advocates for actual socialism are people who want it as a transition state into Communism. I personally want Socialism as a transition state into Communism.

[@emiloguechoons9030]

@@thezeronelite Your comment is incredibly Eurocentric in judging the tendency for Socialists to support nationalist movements, while it's true that in America and much of Europe the most common strains of nationalism are that of the right wing, when it comes to colonial and post colonial nations, the nationalism of those countries typically refers to local national liberation movements, such as the free Palestine and Irish republican movement, which are largely supported by people on the left, and while the character and aims of national liberation movements are fundamentally unique from the reactionary and often racist nationalism in the first world, they are still characterised as being nationalist movements, it's not very often that I've met a leftist who opposed Irish and Palestinian liberation movements, research "left-wing nationalism"

[@thenamesianna]

As they say, you've got to know your enemy.

[@StardogTheRed]

One thing it took me years to do was to untangle the notions of 'capitalism' and of 'democracy' - because the two were synonymized so much in my public school curriculum

[@iammrbeat]

The more I think about it, they were synonymized (wait is that a word?) in my upbringing as well.

[@karmicguzzler]

@@iammrbeat Many socialists (myself included-just to be clear about my biases) argue that socialism is an extension of democratic ideas to the sphere of economics. Unless you're employed by a worker-owned co-op, you don't have any democratic control of your workplace. Democratic control and ownership of the means of production is a definitionally socialist ideal. You should be able to vote out a terrible manager and have a say in how you spend 1/3 of your life.

[@crappusmaximus1268]

@@karmicguzzleron point comrade! If the choice is between working for a job with a capitalist stealing most of your labour value, it is slavery, just rebranded!

[@literallyap0tat0-q7q]

Capitalism and democracy aren't just separate things, they are opposing forces.

[@ImperiumRomanum476]

I want to see their ideas on anarchism as an anarcho-syndicalist.

[@Ratfkr]

They would probably make like a 15 minute slippery slope vid and somehow saying it’s fascism because gay people

[@CouscousEnjoyer]

What is an anarcho-syndicist, and why do you think that way? I'm genuinely curious, never met someone who affiliates with anarchy before

[@MinerGlitch25]

@@CouscousEnjoyerWikipedia: “Anarcho-syndicalism is an anarchist organisational model that centres trade unions as a vehicle for class conflict. Drawing from the theory of libertarian socialism and the practice of syndicalism, anarcho-syndicalism sees trade unions as both a means to achieve immediate improvements to working conditions and to build towards a social revolution in the form of a general strike, with the ultimate aim of abolishing the state and capitalism.”

[@CouscousEnjoyer]

@@MinerGlitch25 I don't agree with your views but it's definitely interesting

[@bigguspeepus]

God I love me some good ol red scare propaganda in the morning

[@sasho_b.]

Reagan and The Witch may be dead, but their legacy holds strong. Stalin said "I know that after my death a pile of rubbish will be heaped on my grave, but the wind of History will sooner or later sweep it away without mercy". I hope that pile ends up on their graves, as they deserve.

[@cammyman32]

>inv4 somebody complains about “LGBT indoctrination” and grooming

[@iammrbeat]

Oh it's already here :/

[@italianbuffoon9953]

@@iammrbeat what is here? sorry i didn't understand

[@beeakan5030]

@@italianbuffoon9953 the people commenting what @cammyman32 said would happen

[@gregtuff4020]

Prager U has been added to Florida curriculums. Good luck guys

[@makhnothecossack4948]

They have been? Oh now the indoctrination by schools is a good thing when it servers the correct purpose? Goddamn hypocrites, even Nazis were honest about their acts (even though these two cannot at least yet be compared) when it came to being authoritarian.

[@arjaygee]

That is truly frightening on top of perpetuating the myth of the happy slave.

[@literallyap0tat0-q7q]

Desatan should send himself back home

[@melo8049]

As a former kid, I would be so bored reading this

[@carterf7025]

These books feel like something Vought from the Boys would make.

[@xJohnnyBloodx]

It’s getting hard to parody things these days.

[@nevarDeathEHW]

Haha, as a parent I also got an ad for this. I actually subscribed and got that book for $1 plus $4.99 shipping. I called to cancel and it sounded like an old man working from home. When asked why I was cancelling, I was polite and just said it was aimed at children younger than mine. He said it was cancelled and I've never gotten another charge (or mailings, thanks goodness) from them.

[@bretwebster6266]

It is imperative that our kids receive a clear and balanced look at history and politics. As a public school teacher education is absolute, if taught honestly.

[@iammrbeat]

As long as we teach students to think like a historian when looking at history and to think like a scientist when looking at politics, they will be resilient against dogma and manipulation.

[@charlesspringer4709]

Is that how you teach about drugs? Because socialism is a very dangerous drug.

[@anton161817]

As a Russian speaker, this is intellectually worse than Soviet propaganda 😅

[@ErikStewart-is1hm]

As a right leaning man I am disgusted that my someone in my party would shovel propaganda about concepts that children can’t understand, if a parent wants their kid to know they should teach it to them in middle or high school

[@onetwothreefourfivesix789]

my man 🥂

[@ErikStewart-is1hm]

@@onetwothreefourfivesix789 cheers 🍻

[@IkedaHakubi]

Thank you for being fair to an idea you don't personally believe in.

[@JamesWagner-vv9iz]

STOP SITTING ON THE FENCE AND PICK A SIDE

[@uhhh_idkwhattoputhere]

@@JamesWagner-vv9iz uhh i pick neither

[@Crashtechs]

In some ways I’m a right leaning guy and even I don’t believe in trickle down economics. I think the problem I see repeating in people that talk about socialism is that it ends up being vague. A consistent solid definition doesn’t happen often because different socialists would and did use it differently.

[@PlatinumAltaria]

In what ways are you right wing? Socialism is the collective ownership (ie. not in the hands of private companies) of the means of production (basically places where people currently work for a wage).

[@iammrbeat]

Do you lean to the right more on social issues?

[@Crashtechs]

@@iammrbeat can you narrow down “social issues” that can be a long list

[@Crashtechs]

@@PlatinumAltaria so let’s say one socialist says we need top down planning to even out the scales a bit. I wouldn’t be in favor of that. And then another socialist says “we need to encourage worker co-ops.” I think that would be way better. America doesn’t need more middle men or corporate power. Worker co-ops are socialist am I right ? The workers own the result of their labor. In some industries this wouldn’t be possible, it would be too complicated but in many trades I favor that instead of publicity traded companies were the profits go to the shareholder through dividends or buybacks.

[@PlatinumAltaria]

@@Crashtechs Welfare or a universal basic income isn't really economic planning. Economic planning would be if the government owned the factories, but just giving poor people a bit of money isn't that. Worker co-ops are good, in general I think it just makes sense to let the people doing the work be in charge, rather than some guy who bought the building with his dad's money. And obviously yeah, some things need to be publicly owned rather than worker owned. You can't have worker owned roads or hospitals, for example; because there's a conflict of interest. It's important to remember that socialism is an entire family of related concepts, not any specific policy. Indeed that's why people on the left fight so much, they all have different ideas about how things should be. They only agree on one thing: that capitalism ain't great.

[@sam-gulch]

Nothing can be unbiased and patriotic

[@cursedcat6467]

17:28 Cuba literally made their own vaccine for covid and even a treatment for lung cancer, what are the people that wrote that book on?

[@ericcarlson6822]

Great quote I heard once: money is like manure. If you spread it around, it can do a whole lot of good, but if you concentrate it in one place, it stinks to high heaven.

[@DGAMINGDE]

It was never the problem to be against the Soviet style one party communism, but the US often argued against any type of leftist party, including democratic ones. In actually half of Europe was ruled by social democrats (more left than US democrats), with democratic socialists participating in coalitions and even the communists in Italy, France and the Netherlands supported NATO as the lesser evil in the end.

[@Jay_in_Japan]

Nothing wrong with the US being against any form of socialism. That's just the way the US has been, historically

[@DGAMINGDE]

@@Jay_in_Japan "Nothing wrong with the US being against any form of socialism. That's just the way the US has been, historically" A Japan stan having a weird take on socialism. I see you prefer country ruled by the party for 60 year. We just must accept that. Guess in your world you think its cool that Cuba and China are dictatorship because they are that "historically". Great first name though.

[@Ry_TSG]

@@Jay_in_Japan There is something wrong with that actually, it prevents an honest discussion of alternative systems to the one we have now and shuts down any possibility of progress or making things better for the people of this country.

[@DanielMorales-my4ez]

​@@Ry_TSGsocialism is when progress.

[@galdoug8918]

I really appreciate how that even if you don't believe in something, you still try to explain what it is. It shows respect and little insecurity of you own beliefs.

[@Ponera-Sama]

I love how from the onset their definition of socialism is just state capitalism

[@sasho_b.]

"Socialism is when the government" -Carl (just Carl)

[@willmont8258]

Socialism in reality is the state planning the economy and taking ownership or control of businesses and industries. It always ends up a big mess.

[@re4796]

State capitalism is a form of socialism

[@Ponera-Sama]

💀

[@CrilTump]

​@@sasho_b.My favorite is when they basically say "Communism is when capitalism"

[@FormallyKoki]

It’s seriously ironic how both side slam each other for indoctrinating children through television, social media, and books but when they do the same thing it’s not indoctrination, it’s early education.

[@ohiodoesntexistordoesit]

how is the left indoctrinating kids?

[@hollystop]

I haven’t seen any liberal books like this before… usually they’re about sharing and being kind to people from different backgrounds. Which… shouldn’t be seen as political lmao

[@realdragon]

@@hollystop I wanna actually see someone reviewing socialist book meant to indoctrinate kids but everybody is covering ones made by conservatives because they're so bad or maybe algorithm see that we like shitty conservative books so it keeps recommending videos about shitty conservative books

[@frogee8494]

@@hollystop lgbt propaganda

[@hollystop]

@@frogee8494 you mean showing kids it’s okay if they’re not straight/cis? Yeah that must really be traumatizing and awful.

[@Xsetsu]

Conflating equality of opportunity and equality of outcome is something that has always burned me up.

[@zapazap]

Yes

[@GeraldEatsSoup]

24:03 they really put "defund the police" on the black kid 💀

[@Leocitopants]

I guys the guys are racist

[@kaiserslavaniaashur1623]

“Socialism destroys peoples motivation to work” Nothing in this whole wide world inspires and motivates me more than knowning I’m part of a collective that when working together, can achieve things that no single induvidual could ever dream of doing.

[@DevinParker]

You claim that you weren't indoctrinating those kids but you showed us video evidence of you performing sweet licks on your guitar, Mr. Teaching Sensation, and we know how the kids love the rock n' roll.

[@iammrbeat]

lol thanks for making me laugh

[@trilby3447]

Mr beat learns things? I thought he was a teacher and knew everything, my world is rocked

[@iammrbeat]

I know nothing

[@DiamondKingStudios]

@@iammrbeatpretty much the exact phrasing used when one interrogates an 1850s politician concerning some “secret political party” meant to “cull the Irish vote” Luckily nowadays we understand that folks here aren’t “Know-Nothings” in that sense.

[@mildlydispleased3221]

Yes, free healthcare and a suitable minimum wage has caused the downfall of many nations.

[@alterbennet5420]

That isn't socialism

[@empwarrior3411]

@@alterbennet5420 The Nordic countries don't even have a minimum wage.

[@Trip_Fontaine]

@@alterbennet5420 Part of the problem is that conservatives constantly switch between different definitions of socialism so they can't be pinned down on anything. A typical conversation: Liberal: We should be socialist like the Nordic countries. Conservative: Dude they are just capitalist countries with extensive social programs. Liberal: Okay, let's develop extensive social programs. Conservative: No way that's socialism! If you say Nordic countries aren't socialist, then the entire socialist movement in the USA is like 4 polyamorous hipsters in Portland who live off kombucha and weed. That's hyperbole of course, but just saying that socialism by that definition is no where near the mainstream of American politics.

[@sharkybrickfilms99120]

Healthcare isn’t a right because you aren’t entitled to the labor of another. Also minimum wage is wrong because it is better to have more working for less than few working for more. I witness it firsthand in NYS

[@sharkybrickfilms99120]

@@empwarrior3411that’s true but they do have free healthcare. Which they are only able to afford because we basically pay for their defense budget

[@fickogames9612]

Never trust a person who says they are unbiased. Honest persons say they are biased. Good honest educators *try* to be unbiased.

[@Mr-DNA_]

Even I, a socialist, could come up with a better, more concise "debunk" of socialism. If you're gonna advocate against an ideology or policy, at least get the definition right. I would also like to add that socialism has nothing to do with Market vs. Command Economy and is about ownership of the means of production. So I personally advocate for market socialism, whereas some advocate for a command economy. Though even I don't advocate for a full market economy. I think stuff like Healthcare, roads, railways and housing should be state-owned and tax-funded. Pretty much everyone believes in a mixed-economy to a certain extend.

[@donaldtrumplover2254]

Welfare states are great until the whole world starts getting invaded by imperialists (you know who I’m talking about 🇨🇳🇷🇺). Believe it or not those European countries are only capable of what they are because of this globalized and protected system. It’s a shame they still hate on the United States after all the good it has done for them.

[@MaryamMaqdisi]

Rofl, as a socialist I’m very happy you covered this, it’s absolutely hilarious

[@sasho_b.]

Socialist as in "capitalism but welfare" or like an actual socialist? People overuse this word to the point of it being useless, thinking that people shouldnt starve isnt a political position, its basic human decency. How we achieve such non-starvation, thats politics. And i suspect you are just a liberal.

[@RiteOfSolaris]

I like how they can identify all the flaws of capitalism and label it as socialism.

[@Historia.Magistra.Vitae.]

Except those flaws have nothing to do with Capitalism.

[@northuniverse]

@@Historia.Magistra.Vitae.Capitalism is when no flaws, Socialism is when flaws 🧠

[@Historia.Magistra.Vitae.]

@@northuniverse : Capitalism works, socialism does not. Simple as that.

[@northuniverse]

@@Historia.Magistra.Vitae. works for who?

[@northuniverse]

@@Historia.Magistra.Vitae. “You can’t have capitalism without racism.” - Malcom X