Reading and Responding to Battle Cats Hot Takes

[@SpookIsTired]

I like the concept of the cyclones because they challenge your strategy in early-game, since obviously you can't use raw damage alone to kill any of the cyclones. It's one of the first big obstacles that you face in the game when it comes to figuring out how to beat it. They also look cool asf

[@Robert96902]

Yep, before the cyclone stages I barely used any crowd control units 🤣 which is really all u need to beat them

[@majesticeagle6629]

Well I actually managed to wrangle the angel one without cc, although the validity of this is shaky at best sense I totally ubercarried. Idk using Lufalan and Guardian Gamereon to kill a cyclone doesn’t sound very fair.

[@Victinitotodilepro]

also how they mock u with the low difficulty rating

[@Nava6]

Yes they're one of the few bosses where they themselves are difficult and can push really hard by themselves excluding the very early cyclones like black, white and etc.

[@guncatto2625]

​@@Nava6"White" Idk man it's arguably the hardest of the classic cyclones. Black is quite pathetic though. (You do not need any debuffers at all really)

[@00_BRUHH]

Bun Bun is actually a good example of what a boss should be. Incredibly deadly, fast, and is the main threat of the stage he's in. It really gives off final boss vibes instead of certain bosses like The face, Nyandam, Hannya and Clionel, more leaning on the support side when they're supposed to be the main threats.

[@jesseyu162]

That is VERY true. But, you forgot that Bun Bun also teaches you something. Meatshielding. (And that Treasures are important, but you know that unless you ubercarried against Nyandam.) Meatshielding is very important for the rest of the game, and without it, the game is genuinely impossible.

[@teorachev9455]

My guy this a common opinion!?!?

[@timegame8026]

​@@jesseyu162 guess why they call the first one TEACHER BUN BUN

[@катяташоу8]

​​​​@@jesseyu162Nyandam doesn't teach anything. It is increadibly easy to beat him without ever grinding treasure and without using gacha.

[@Bulbmin1]

Bubbun was very easy tf are you talking about

[@dodagamer2560]

Ponos needs to stop treating BCEN like it exists every once in a while. Everyday it feels like PONOS will give BCJP 5 rare tickets, 500 cat food, 3 platinum tickets, a starter special discount reset and wildcat slots for just updating the game meanwhile BCEN gets a trash collab, crazed festival, 20 cat food daily for 2 weeks, and a cat scratcher for a day.

[@wysockifamily1747]

At the very least they could give us a rare ticket once every week.

[@TJ-hg6op]

I’m inexperienced, what are these acronyms.

[@mikubrot]

@@TJ-hg6op BCEN is the English version of battle cats and BCJP is the Japanese version. While mentioned less, BCTW and BCKR are for taiwan and korea respectively

[@skibidislungus]

@@Aku_Cycloneevery 2 months i would say

[@skibidislungus]

fr tho the only rare tickets i really ever get are from 22nd because i cant grind cat tickets + i dont have max levels on my base upgrades

[@C0DY420]

I think Myrcia’s multi hit is a bit overlooked, it can be really good against low knockback traitless enemies, especially because of her dodge.

[@tacotown4598]

There is never a situation where multihit is better against low kb enemies, it simply does not make a difference

[@densecabbage2057]

but that just makes it easier for her to miss the second hit, and the second hit is much more important than the first

[@DevMan2342]

@@tacotown4598 no, proc units with freeze or slow are better with multi hit like delinquent cat

[@tacotown4598]

@@DevMan2342 or you could just have a better proc chance on a one hit unit

[@DevMan2342]

@@tacotown4598 true

[@Sapphire-qo2ij]

13:07 R.Ost in early game is an absolute menace, and you’re likely to spend half your team dealing with this demonic bird. In mid and late game, you have better options to counter it like macho glass, tourist, hannawa, etc. Brollows can be pretty annoying. Especially in higher crowns they can shred your meatshields and frontliners. I don’t know. This is only the perspective of a mid game player. Don’t expect much out of me.

[@zepplinkiwigamer8217]

Don't agree.

[@Yanz56]

@@zepplinkiwigamer8217 bruh you totally need 4 meatshields to counter this jackass

[@laineyw7257]

I would’ve agreed with this in the past but Glass Slippers taught me that R. Ost can always be a menace.

[@WindmillWindy]

Haha shadow gao boom bam dead bird

[@Krackitty]

​@@WindmillWindy brollow

[@GigaGligga]

Dkasli is miles better then normal kasli. And I find it annoying that people seem to not care about dkasli’s curse. Curse is extremely good and isn’t talked about enough. She is the only (to my knowledge) reliable permanent curse unit with a mid - good range. Honestly the dps is the main part of her niche but the curse is still extremely good.

[@axiom9840]

Agreed, but the thing is with me, I find all daslis other stats are just so much more overpowering that makes her curse a bit irrelevant compared to them. Like her dps can go toe to toe with aphros dps against aliens. There is a difference of standing range, but it just goes to show how godlike her offensive output is. Her defense doesn’t make her immortal like mitama or gaymerion, but it makes her survive for super long periods of time. Also she’s immune to curse, surge, warp, weaken, and wave. These immunities make her absolutely fuck the current meta and makes her the best endgame Uber easily. Anyway I feel like I’ve been rambling for light years now. But I do agree the curse is very good (as a dasli user myself.) but isn’t close to being as good as her other stats.

[@ChickenNugget7]

Permanent curse on Henry is no joke, definitely a worthy status effect.

[@destroreact5706]

@@ChickenNugget7 Cursing relics so they can't curse cat units is also pretty broken. Dkasli's Curse is insane

[@hoglin7]

This aged like avocados

[@Landon_Landscape]

Now this is not a hot take but then yes

[@ursamajor4695]

14:40 Keiji is more used for his good DPS (especially strengthened) decent standing range and compatibility against many low range enemies. He is also used as a wave tank, which is a bit of a suppliment to the above points. His resistance to black does not usually matter unless you are farming XP or doing a stage where tanking tackey shots is needed (among some other scenarios.)

[@blankedeye1451]

11:50 hades' main issue isn't his range (due to literally being a tanker, which midrange is great for) but his damage per hit and below average dps, which makes it hard for him to get enemies off him.

[@alexknott7111]

Keiji is definitely not used for his tanking. He’s used as a generalist with 25k+ dps at level 50 with talents 😊

[@kubiluga6938]

Bruh. Guess I've been using keiji wrong my whole life. Tq for the tip.

[@Terrified_Dartanyan]

Bro he's a spammable tank, and an anti wave tank

[@Yanz56]

He's used for both bruh. He has 400k+ hp and 6k+ dps at level 30. if you decide to boost him up to lvl 50 (which is a good Investment) you will get 700k+ hp and 9k+ dps. oh yeah that's not counting about the strengthen and strengthen talent boost (i'm too lazy to count that) but you can search it up.

[@DevMan2342]

😂my man doesn’t know that they can be both

[@DevMan2342]

@@kubiluga6938 don’t worry, you haven’t

[@mylestomsik4720]

i find hades's biggest flaw to be his attack, it's too low for that range and rapid attacks is not good for tanker still a pretty good unit though

[@waitaminute5439]

that guy with the peter griffin pfp must of been high while writing that comment Also my hot take is that ultra deliquent cat is a pretty decent generalist who is at least B tier (or higher) with talents (yes I talented my ultra delinquent and no I am not a jojo fan and I havent even watched jojo or any anime (for quite a few years) for that matter). Delinquents freeze against floating is actual doodoo but his freeze against relics can be clutch

[@pitchblendeprotogen]

I've got "a couple": All the lugas' true forms should get the 100 KB's like shishi does. That extreme survivability against anything but nuker enemies would work wonders for some, like Nobi. While the worst of the worst lugas do genuinely just have a horrible niche, having that survivability would probably improve them ever so slightly. (Just ignore that the already strong ones get even stronger pls) Jizo's true form should have been based on his first form over his evolved form. He could be that exception because of just how influential his first form has been for like 5 years (and counting). I already feel like the talents on units like some Dark Heroes and especially Jizo are kinda throwing away NP, because they only apply to their true form. Making Jizo's TF that would have addressed it. I also think a colorization of that form would be neat. Brollow is one of my personal favorite designed enemies. It's a rusher with rebound, encouraging thoughtful play around it down to the cannon you select probably being a debuff one. Its speed is absolutely perfectly set to infiltrate right into where- if you bring them- your stack of spammable attackers or midranged ubers would be after a boss wave. The existence of wave blocker- and to a very reduced exception wave immune- is not the greatest game design ever and I hope surge blocker never exists. Having an 'end all, be all' unit is just not interesting imo, and PONOS has been making less wave focused levels or forcing them to counter Octopus Cat because of wave blocker being so dominant. I think wave blocker should not exist. However, wave immune should have some more dimensions attached to it, like a chance to trigger instead of always being guaranteed, just for balance. If this had happened, the wave resist talent *could* have been replaced by a wave immunity talent that doesn't cap at 100%. Snache deserved to have a starred alien variant over Doge. He already got a regular alien variant for Christ's sake. You should be able to toggle whether or not talents are on. This is mainly for cats with KB talents for obvious reasons, but some other ones such as speed boosts might also have some advantages to being turned off. Enemies should be given debuff immunities more often. It would add some variance. For example, slow immunity on a boss-type enemy could shut down cyberstacking anywhere it appears. Another example: you know how Sanzo is one of the best floating CC-ers in the game? maybe a slow immune floating enemy that isn't immune to freeze could allow for units such as Necrodancer to take the stage over Sanzo. Strengthen is not being used to its full potential design wise. One idea I had to expand upon it was a unit or enemy that *starts* with strengthen up and *loses* it once their hp falls below a certain amount. Possibly even a cat that *applies strengthen to enemies,* with the tradeoff being that is has absolutely beyond cracked base stats? Legeluga's TF should get the ability to apply poison worth 1% of the target's max hp (among other things probably). 5% seems to broken too me and I don't really like how 'unclean' 2/3/4% would be. I'm torn on whether or not PONOS should do balance changes (I mean constant ones, not like Dark Lazer in BCJP losing area attack once ever lmao), however I'm leaning towards them starting to. Maybe very delicately, and only buffs; if you nerf a unit that happened to be the only current key to a hard level (or the only easily accessible one) it'd be kinda silly that that's no longer possible. Sure, guides might become outdated, especially if said guides recommend not using something that then gets buffed in the future and would work, but it's not like that somewhat happens already when units are given a TF and/or talents. They really shouldn't rely on hoping talents will fix awful units because it can just fail. I mean look at Coppermine. We have little to no right to feel like the Almighties TF's were lazy (I concede that I have no idea if that actually caused a stir at all but yeah). Sure, on paper they were pretty lazy. But we've all seen how extravagant their designs are. Do we really want to put their artists through adding *more* to that for purely visual purposes? The only real case I can make about these TF's being lazy is that not updating the art means they couldn't really adjust ranges, which some from that set probably would have appreciated. The game needs a volume slider. I like hearing the sound effects so it isn't nothing but music, but they overpower the music and I can't use volume on this game in public unless I have SFX disabled. If Clash Royale can add sliders after six years, this game can after eight or ten.

[@Silent_YES]

Yesssss sound sliderrrrr

[@skyjack1]

Unironically the most rational BC player.

[@scouttf2143]

1st one wouldn’t work, they still have incredibly low hp and half of them still die in seconds.

[@mrvoidschannel359]

​​@@scouttf2143I'm a year later to join the discussion here, but I will just say that it IS kind of OP if you manage to stack your meatshields enough

[@-2ndEdition]

15:07 As a keiji owner, keijis black resist plus decent range essentially makes him more of a safety net, since I mostly use nono as an anti black meatshield. His rapid attack rate and strengthen is more meant to help keep blacks off your meatshield units. It would be better if keiji just had strong vs black though

[@andrejhofer2007]

Agreed, strong vs black would fit Keiji's role much better, leave the tanking for Gamereon

[@ceddavis7441]

15:07 yeah keiji is an anti wave unit much more than a tank IMO. He was my main carry against hermit and masked hermit. He can def act as a wall against black, but not for long. So he's good, just not against black funnily enough.

[@edwardhoffenheim3249]

I like multi hit because it makes the game more dynamic than spam dps and nuke the shit out of everything. I think it’s easier to balance too since you have more opportunities to spread out damage than make attacks all or nothing. My favorite unit is, well, Iz (lol) and if she didn’t have multi hit she’d absolutely be Dasli level. What I like about her is that you can take her on a lot of stages but there are usually better options that are more niche. She has versatility but she doesn’t break everything.

[@linusklassen7380]

Naala is a beast when it comes to sniping and shes really underrated cuz she's late late UL. she's on-par, if not better than Mina in some scenarios

[@assadguy]

especially with the tf being introduced in BCJP recently turns her into a top 7 legend cats

[@hughmann981]

An ancient curse is a garbage introduction to UL. It’s the main reason as to why i quit my old file. It requires the evolving of almost all SOL units, which can take months due to growing strange being garbage. Unlike a whole new world which just demands cat luza, a much less annoying unit to grind for.

[@crazedaxebutbetter5208]

1. I beat it without any SoL legend true forms 2. I know there aint no way you said luza is less annoying to grind for than the SoL legend true forms

[@hughmann981]

@@crazedaxebutbetter5208 you can grind for luza beforehand, which you can’t for legend true forms

[@crazedaxebutbetter5208]

@@hughmann981 sure. but it doesn't change the fact that luza is still very expensive and it takes a long time to grind for, you need 20 of every stone, which is heavily dependant on RNG. both for the stones you get from hidden forest, jinfore volcano, and ashvini desert, and the hunters maps.

[@jaxonanderson7220]

Probably the best way to beat it is to just get Modern cat or future cat. True form some gacha rares or supers that you couldn’t in the base game and get anti relic targeting or curse immune talents on them

[@merlinparache1681]

15:00 Keiji is an awesome unit. For me, he’s my third line of defense for Black enemy heavy stages. Eraser, Gas Mask then Keiji. If my lines of defense get taken down, he’ll hold for my ranged units and eventually get the Strengthen. Also helpful that he shares a Cat Combo with Bomber Cat(?) for extra freeze time. Excellent recharge time and low unit cost

[@franco-golpeador2435]

I have my hot take here: I think that the "Behemoth update" was pretty hig and low in many aspects, but the one that left me worse are the units. Since Im a person that doesn't have that many luck with the units I wish from the gacha, I give LOTS of value to non-gacha units (or gacha units that are easier to obtain like Maximum the Fighter) so when I've seen that these updates were going to bring lots of no-gacha I was hyped after otaining courier and to see what came next. What came next? dissapointment. The only units from the "Behemoth Update" that actually are useful are Courier cat and Mushroom cat; since Gas mask isn't enough to stop Darkjo's legs (Literally trying to mimic Ramen but failing miserably); Haniwa is like a 6/10, he does decently his job but he can be replaced almost instantly with other more general meatshields like Jiangshi, Ninja, Ramen, Riceball or Li'l eraser if boosted (I put the 4-star units only since that's the only possile niche I found and used him); Surgeon, Racquet, Exorcist and Firefly are enemy specific and yet most of them do it wrong (AND THEY COST A LOOOOOT); And Gorgeous Groovin' cat is just money dumping just for a more shiny copy of Samba cat but *ALSO* does his job wrong as the previous ones (he was supossed to be a dodge meatshield but it ended up as a fiasco). What do you think about the Behemoth Update? Sorry for the testament

[@DecidiousGreens]

exorcist and firefly arent expensive 10 purple and red stones are nothing also have you heard of cactus and supercar

[@tristanrowanmooijman3549]

Gladios is an amezing unit in both early game and mid game with his good attack defense and his knockback and slow against traitles helps out a ton against units like rost who can be a really big problem in early game but gladios just destroys rost and many others and hes also really good against units like the crazed units

[@gaymer2698]

Fr idk why he gets all that hate he carried me through the crazed and manic cats

[@iker9095]

Gladios is underrated since anti traitless units are very rare even in end game(unless you have epic fest exclusives)

[@randomunovafan2787]

I really like mecha Bun-Bun as a unit because it made the special-only stages that I was stuck on super easy! He just has generally good stats making him super helpful in almost any special-only stage because he doesn’t have a very specialized use. He just has good stats.

[@Spotth]

His stats are trash

[@acid9033]

@@Spotth it's his opinion

[@scouttf2143]

@@acid9033his opinion is shit

[@joaovictornogueira323]

​@@acid9033it's a fact tho

[@yeildishere]

Mecha bun-bun might be useful as a unit for special only stages but his stats still make near the worst legend unit due to his inability to get the job done sometimes but in defense filibuster is worse but only for the long wait time for the attack to hit but Mecha bun is near that level just on different terms of usablilty

[@MourningButterflies]

Delinquent Cat is actually pretty decent, his true form is immune to curse and has a decent chance to freeze Relics makes him pretty good in stages that are mostly filled with Relics But he also seems like a glass cannon in this situation due to his low survivability Overall, I think Delinquent Cat has his niches, and is really good in them, at least for mid game or just starting uncanny legends, people are just quick to use other cats due to how poor he is in his first two forms

[@blurrysuprisedcat8334]

Jojo

[@tolafia6708]

I think Moneko and Neneko are underrated, mostly Neneko. She has good range and okay damage, but can also help a lot with metal bosses thanks to her good crit chance. I would pick catasaurus over them, but if there is extra space, using them together for a cat combo, with ramen cat too, they can make many stages easier.

[@exlord699]

Quick question what stage of the game are you? Imo catasaurus is wayyyyy better

[@zpooky6076]

@@exlord699 they literally said theyd pick catasaurus over both

[@exlord699]

@@zpooky6076 ok

[@Cosmo_Samoyed]

Empress was my most recent Uber and I have to say I've used her a fair amount, definitely not any sort of replacement for Aphrodite or anything but on mixed stages where range is necessary, her CC and DPS is hard to beat. Definitely a fun unit which is one of the crown jewels of my collection!

[@alexcats57]

24:51 I agree here, would be my nolstagia, but the Old O Fortuna its So much better, I even prefer listening to that one instead of the New one.

[@TotallyNotMax1]

i agree with hanzo being underrated, he is literally the shadow gao of black and floating

[@theluxalpha]

Momotaro's True Form, The Peach Devils is amazing.

[@zpooky6076]

as a momotaro haver who is totally non biased, yes but fr tho peach devils is rlly good

[@crazedaxebutbetter5208]

I got things to say, and I may add more as time goes on. - even as a non-legeluga owner, they're still very underrated. 42.5K damage and 12K dps at level 30 with range that is enough to escape most common enemies and omnistrike seems pretty good when I think of using them. the recharge is just over two minutes, which is very short compared to the other lugas, so you can possibly stack multiple and get great amounts of damage being dealt. they're also immune to effects like freeze and slow, so they can't be affected by henry, croakley, or any other LD enemy that it's meant to stay at the back and hinder your units, and they don't even die when exposed to air, so you don't have to worry about them being vaporized as soon as they're touched by one of them. they don't even need curse immunity because they don't rely on effects to boost themselves, just raw damage. from what I've seen the speed is just enough to not take 10 trillion years to arrive like luza (although luza is still good regardless of speed), but not enough to rush ahead in front of your defenses and kill themselves like kachiyama and kalisa. the only problems I would say the only problems they have is that they have a slight lack of modern immunities, missing surge immunity which would make them viable in end game since more surge action has been happening recently. maybe their true form will fix this, if ponos ever remembers to add more legend rare true forms other than just babel.

[@metakuza7660]

Wargod Hanzo is a fairly underrated unit. Having slightly below 5k dps with a chance to freeze along with massive damage against 2 traits us actually not too shabby. Yeah, you definitely could make the argument that his niches (black and floating) are very powercrept, but he does his job as a nuker well. His cost does bring him down a bit, as having over 5k cost is fairly steep, especially for nukers, but I don't feel as it brings him down too much. Hell, I'd argue that against floating enemies, he's more valuable then Windy.

[@theteethcollector865]

I’ve got some hot takes! -bomber cat isn’t as powerful as people say it is. Perma freeze is great if you wants to stack cyberpunk or something, but that’s pretty rare in black stages. Additionally, bomber cat goes far too close to the frontlines, another problem against black enemies. Finally, raw damage output serves better; pizza and dark lazer can juggle most close up enemies, and deal enough damage to where crowd control isn’t needed. -6th angel cat isn’t as bad as people make it out to be. 500 range is already pretty high, and the dodge can rarely make it survive longer. While its DPS isn’t all that good, having such a wide attack range means it will hit more enemies per hit, which can especially be useful on spam heavy or backliner stages. The only flaws are its low single target damage and its lack of knockbacks, but that isn’t the end of the world. -crazed moneko > Soba cat -riceball with talents isn’t as strong as people make it to be. I still think its great, and the immunities are especially helpful for 4 star, but we already had a tanky 4 star meatshield; ramen cat. Of course, boosting ramen cat does make it a bit unfair to compare, but later on, having a higher max strength is key. Additionally, riceball’s rapid reload makes it frain money faster than ramen- 2 riceball cats are comparable in health to one ramen, but it costs 600 against ramen’s 315. -collab barons are great. While I think the main barons, (monthly, hippo, peng, etc) get boring incredibly quick, the collab barons give you something to do during the collab period, and they also allow all types of players to experience stages that were once only for late game players. In particular, Baron Walpurgisnacht is a nice compromise between “100% boss” and “30% nerfed boss”. Now, everyone can play it no matter their stage of gameplay!

[@Surkk2960]

Bomber's main goal is to stop is to stop Razorback most of the time, it is very hard to stop Razor without Bomber in most cases.

[@tacotown4598]

Baron walpurgis achy is fucking 460% buffed at max WHAT DO YOU MEAN IT’S A “balance”

[@theteethcollector865]

@@Surkk2960 that is fair, I’ll give you that.

[@theteethcollector865]

@@tacotown4598 You aren’t obligated to beat all the way to max, its a pacer that scales with how far in the game you are. And, that balance just means a compromise between that one nerf we had, and the full strength level of old. Level balance is in a different category though.

[@tacotown4598]

@@theteethcollector865 “full strength level of old” it’s literally stronger.

[@Aninvader-rm4fl]

21:41 Black enemies typically have high knockback counts and push frequently, Hanzo does enough damage to knockback most black enemies and the two seconds of freeze give you time to regain ground, especially with the new true form which increases the freeze duration. I could see how on paper the freeze would look bad, but in practice against its target it is very valuable He is bad against the two colossuses he's supposed to target though so you're right about that

[@DanProductions2373]

i love how zues is really strong against angels, zues was probably one of the first ubers i ever got, and now that i upgraded it to level 18 (listen im a early gamer ok?), i am really surprised of how much that zues tanks if its angels or not, overall, zues is really underated and is worth to upgrade.

[@2krab4u]

Here is my hot take: the whole concept of behemoth culling stages sucks and i hate it, courier is waaaaay more overpowered than he should be, from what i have heard all the other eggs suck compared to him (except for like two or three last ones), and PONOS should just rework this whole thing

[@tacotown4598]

That isn’t a hot take, it’s just the truth. Eggs require an enormous amount of resources to true form, and most are near useless. Farming those materials is timelocked and much more difficult content than the units you obtain from them warrant. This results in those units being obtained very late in the game, removing a lot of potential usage. One of the reasons why cactus isn’t nearly as good as it could be is because it takes weeks to obtain and requires the completion of several difficult stages, effectively making it very difficult to obtain before aku realms, it’s arguably most relavent usage

[@Robert96902]

Yes, the only eggs that are worth it are Courier, Mushroom, Supercar and Cactus. I have my Courier at level 50 and he does like 11k damage per hit (44k to reds) and with good movement speed, he’s broken lol but I would never complain about a great non gacha unit that anyone can have, specially since it only requires red and purple B. stones which are the easiest to get. I only got to use cactus on Mt Aku invasion and he was pretty helpful but wished I could’ve gotten him sooner :( at least I think akus make an appearance in UL, haven’t gotten far enough to confirm, just unlocked Urs

[@Kenobisan02]

@@Robert96902 still though, he kinda made the other eggs seem worthless to farm in comparison, I like that we get a strong behemoth slayer early on, but atleast they could have balanced it better

[@amewtwofan]

21:48 im most probably biased, but i have to hardly disagree. hanzo was one of the first ubers i got and that guaranteed freeze has been an absolute lifesaver, plus the massive damage does a knockback most of the time, or almost always with blacks, wich is perfect for pushing them back

[@MrStephx0]

Here are my hot takes. Kuu is underrated, everybody keeps on crying about her long attack animation, but with Strong Combos and a level 40 Kuu in a red and black niche stage, she can absolutely deal fearsome amounts of damage to these types of enemies, she's also my only uber that actually makes Professor A cry in a corner. Akane Tendo (The collaboration unit) is EXTREMELY underrated, she deals stupid strong amounts of damage with her Savage Blows, I don't know what XSkull ate or drank that made him so drunk that he ranked her 2nd and Mousse, a terrible unit, 1st place in his Ranma 1/2 uber ranking. Shitakiri Sparrow is underrated, he can control Aku enemies with his KB, especially Aku Gory, Fiend does this as well, even with a much lower cost, but his blind spot kinda ruins him, which makes Shitakiri a bit better than him in some cases. Queen Succubus Cat is VERY underrated as well, although she has piss poor health and damage, her long freeze time and her cheap and short cool down and cost can make her kinda reliable in stages where Juliet, even Sanzo falls flat. Tigerclaw despite doing what other ubers or regular units do when they outrange R.Ost, is a phenomenal unit when uses against them, although having a kind of long attack animation (not really) they can deliver high amounts of damage when protected, currently, Tigerclaw, Myrcia and Akane are my main R.Ost slayers. Since weaken is a good ability in Uncanny Legends, will talented MerQueen Ruri work there?

[@Surkk2960]

Gonna be honest, Sparrow + Lilin is an amazing combo an carried me through most tough aku stages.

[@dylanjohnson1350]

about the Kuu one she will break i'll be bug.

[@tacotown4598]

No, ruri has single target

[@_LunaticMoon]

I do have to ask why I dont see Jiangshi cat used often while eraser and manic eraser are both commonly used if not even used together alot Maybe I have a bit of a bias for Jianshi cat because I prepared him for ItF 3 Moon but I use him often because of not only him tanking twice but also with his lil dragon combo as a bonus

[@witherslayer-7315]

The moon in empire of cats in are still some of the best designed stages in the game.

[@zhemedic2639]

The chapter 3 one? Yeah fr, its the first stage that most people were struggle, unless if u get OP uber from the gacha rolls, you will actually have to strategizing, learn to spam meatshields, learn the power of stacking ranged attackers (most notably being dragon cat), treasures farming and most importantly, keep calm

[@idlegameplayer3756]

as an empress owner, in practice she's way worse than she sounds. while her weaken is nice, she almost never gets it off/keeps it up because of how high the chance she misses is. she has a 3.5s attack animation, and something being knocked back in that time makes her useless for like 10 seconds until she can finish her attack, move forward, begin another attack and hopefully not miss again. her very slow movement speed also doesn't help, on longer stages it takes her a very long time to get to the frontline

[@skibidislungus]

For empress cat: You know that platinum ticket deal after EoC. 1 Japan? I bought that and got Princess cat from that. (9:23)

[@danmanproking2179]

Hot take: Jinfore area 10 is the best farming stage in Jinfore Volcano. Yes, as the initial level it sucks, but with mushroom and courier (plus boosted ramen), you can handle the rajakong easily, and the moths boost your money. Rushing the stage is satisfying, and it’s pretty ease for a farming stage! The rest are inconsistent and annoying, with 5 needing alien things, 6 needing help against gobble, 9 being black hell, and I don’t really remember 7&8. I just feel like 10 is the most consistent, and that’s what counts for me!

[@RoyalFumble]

Cold take: I LOVE MEN

[@funky_palwaow9020]

REAL😍😍😍

[@roecatgaming]

Cold take : beefcake is sexier than paris

[@funky_palwaow9020]

@@roecatgaming lowkey yeau

[@wraithofflame2893]

I have ritual saint kasli and my friend has dasli and we have worked out that while both are incredible and will hard carry any account with them (I personally would say ritual saint is better than mitama but that might be bias) there are a few key differences that mean that even I admit dasli is better first is the surge immunity (this is really broken as it means dasli can fill an entire role that ritual saint can hardly touch) as pre Iz (grief) she was the only fest Uber with surge immunity (I’m pretty sure or at least every relevant fest Uber) and adding onto this she has a higher level surge (4 vs 3) which just ups her dps a bit too much as well as a better standing range. Together these traits make dasli the better option however as a ritual saint enthusiast myself I will say that the knock back has the potential to be game-savingly good and ritual saint is obviously still a broken unit.

[@NovaShi.]

19:43 thats not all, cuz if you dont have cyberpunk stages like the perfect clyclone revenge are impossible or so difficult to the point of stress , i said that cuz i got cyberpunk after beating the relic bun bun stage (that was so difficult bruh)

[@Sapphire-qo2ij]

15:51 Oh boy. I connect with this one. Like REALLY connect with it.

[@skyjack1]

As someone with pretty good counters to those stages, I think they’re annoying too.

[@lancetheking7524]

Hot take, Mizli and Ganglion together work well against aliens, and Ganglion in general is a good unit

[@Terrified_Dartanyan]

Alright let's do a little talk about 23:41. I own both Kaslis and have Mitama (and all of the fests except Dark Iz) in my other accout. For what I've seen Mitama and Curse is an overrated matchup, the only enemies that shut down Mitama are Loris/Othom because of it's LD and Lowkey because of range, you can still use Mitama on most other Relics and she will do wonders. For example in "Outta this town" if you combine Mitama with IDI to nuke the Puffington, you win, the Haniwanwans are not strong enough to pass the Mitama Future Cat combo. Like yeah she falls off but God Damn bro you have an entire team to aid her just don't use her in Loris stages like you wouldn't use Dasli in Tackey stages. Regarding Surge, she is a tanky girl, if we're questioning Aku surges she WILL survive them, her slow speed also doesn't allow her to get back into the surge, so most of the time she only takes one hit from Death Surges. For things like Saint Dober you can pair her with Sanzo to create slow stack that won't allow Dober and the other peons to move, then you can use Rock to defend against something which passed. Poison is honestly not a matchup most Ubers have control of: Dasli, Kasli, Mitama, Jesus... Everything dies from Toxic, the only hope for an Uber is stupidly high range or Toxic Immune. Also you can't count on Mitama for Traitless, she was made to destroy Traited with her insane Slow procs, It's like putting Ushikawamaru and Cyborg in the room: one is very good against Angels and outperforms Cyborg but she's mid against everything else. Also sometimes Kasli's KB fucks things up so Dasli being the only counter to Toxic, Winged Pigge and other debuffer enemies along with her Crackhead DPS still is better

[@tacotown4598]

Agree. Kasli’s kb is deffinitly very rng dependent. There are lots of variables, like the specific stage, what circumstances, where her surge lands, etcetera. Sometimes it’s an absolute lifesaver, sometimes it gets you killed. Dasli’s main advantage over normal kasli isn’t her higher dps(plus it isn’t that much higher), or her curse, it’s her hp. Just look at your messier video, messier, who actually had 200% strengthen, hit dasli and she tanked like a boss. Meanwhile, that hit would have one shot a lvl 50 normal kasli. And in 3 star ul, where everything hits like a truck, you can bet it’s extremely useful. Normal mitama vs kasli is complicated, and honestly not worth talking about. They’re both insanely good Uber, so honestly I personally would tie them. Also, another thing about toxic and mitama, the main vulnerability one of the only 2 common toxic enemies, gobble, is being juggled. Mitama can help by slowing it, allowing your other Ubers to hit it more easily. Mitama has a higher standing range and ld max than gobble so you can sure as hell bet she’ll hit.

[@Terrified_Dartanyan]

@@tacotown4598 This may be a strange pick but most of the time Kasli is more helpful than Dasli in UL, and DEFINITELY more helpful than her in SoL. I'd say that she's the best Uber in SoL. In the end tho it is very dependant if the stage has a backliner, if not, Kasli reigns

[@tacotown4598]

@@Terrified_Dartanyan yeah you definitely haven’t played 3 star ul. Let’s just say that kasli doesn’t enjoy being 1-3 shot by almost everything

[@Terrified_Dartanyan]

@@tacotown4598 that's also something I didn't consider, but they are mostly tied honestly

[@OmegaStars01]

It too late for a hot take? If not, here’s an interesting one… Platinum tickets should allow people to CHOOSE an uber unit. Platinum tickets can still screw a player with either a repeat uber or a bad uber. As someone who’s always undergoing bad luck, the game revolves 100% on the gacha system, it’s tough at times, and unfortunately, it’d be great to not get completely stuck in 1 spot for the next year…

[@Manic_Titan]

Way too op. The entire game is possible no uber, super rare is the rarity that the game mostly relies on. You could just choose to get dasli or phono and destroy the entire game. Plat tickets aren't even that hard to obtain tbh.

[@OmegaStars01]

@@Manic_Titan fair opinion, I mostly think that because of repeat Ubers and for people like me with the world’s worse luck imaginable. Even then, rare ticket Ubers are good as is, but platnium is more grindy to get in my opinion since they don’t show up often. Even then… do you think people roll 10 rolls for a platnium shard? No, they’re gonna wait til Uber’s guaranteed. Still, your reason makes sense, but I guess that’s just a “me” thing and if you wanna say it… a “skill issue”

[@crazedaxebutbetter5208]

that would put the game way off balance, maybe the legend ticket would allow you to pick one uber and have three other ones randomly selected, with a 20% chance of getting the one you want because of the 5% for a legend rare. I could see the platinum ticket allowing you to choose the uber set you draw from. although let's be real, there aint no way that's happening.

[@matthewbritt7485]

People also forget that mitamas weaknesses (mainly curse) can be made irrelevant by daslis curse

[@hyperion5087]

Claw dojo isn’t really fun because you don’t get any money from killing the enemies. This doesn’t pose a challenge but rather just creates an annoying competition.

[@Random-person-on-the-internet]

24:00 Having used both kaslis extensively, I believe that Dasli is just a little bit better. Kasli sometimes causes mizli syndrome with both Jones and kurosawah, while Dasli just kills everything. Although there isnt another CC to keep enemies in place after the kb, the kb procs up to 3 times.

[@0broop0]

Her curse is pretty underrated, and most people just look at her broken stats but completely disabling annoying enemies like anything with toxic, winged pigge weaken, red enerG knockback, and tons more

[@rigged991]

honestly i have a slight problem with gas mask cat. if they are blacc, they stronk and atacc, and like gesalt decay, THEY WILL STACC.

[@Sapphire-qo2ij]

Aku realms kinda sucks. I personally don’t have really good shield piercing options, so I have to deal with absurdly hard stages in aku realms like mexico. So many fallen bears. So many. If you don’t have cactus, super car, lilliin, or kai you’re going to have a bad time in aku realms. And for some reason, exorcist doesn’t have shield piercing. Why?! Like exorcist has so much potential to be a good freezer. Yet it sucks due to its range and no shield piercing. Maybe i’m whining a bit too much, (maybe i’m just not good ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ) but personally I think that aku realms is sort of a mess.

[@yeetlordentertainment3937]

Standard Vars < Pumpkin Knight Vars Vars is ONLY good now because he counters Relics, and he's not even the BEST anti Relic uber. His value is heavily based on his anti Relic usage, and truth be told, with all the Relic units that have been added, he's not as important as he used to be. Pumpkin Knight Vars, on the other hand, is actually excellent - 100% slow with over 100% uptime vs Zombies, 100% knockback vs. Zombies, good range, decent attack rate, counters Cadaver Bear - the zombie you'll hear more complaints about than any other - and like almost every OTHER zombie, too, and while his anti alien niche is less good, he's still reliable against stuff like Nimoy Bores who, while not terrible, can sometimes be a pain. Regular Vars doesn't even have 100% KB and Slow in true form WITH talents - his KB only goes up to 80%! Sure, it's a good number, but would it REALLY have killed PONOS to give talented, true form Vars a 100% KB? He also only has 50% slow in TF, making his anti Relic abilities valuable mainly due to typing - he's less reliable than several other anti relics ubers. It's a harder enemy type ig, but tbh Zombies are still considered fairly difficult, they're not a powercrept joke like Floating or Black enemies, and Pumpkin Vars works wonders against almost every zombie. He's a high tier anti zombie, whereas Vars is a mid tier anti relic. Also, bonus take: Zombies are the best designed enemy type, burrowing and reviving are excellent mechanics that truly transform any conflict. The threat of having them burrow or revive past your main lump of strong units, cutting off your supply of meatshields and forcing you to fight on 2 fronts, truly an inspired design. Aku enemies are a close second - shields to counter Traited debuffers and death surges to slice through "safe" backliners, they really encourage you to use different units and tactics. Staples like Cyberpunk end up taking a backseat, and I feel like melee units really get to shine, since death surges often seem to land at a bit of a distance.

[@Call_Me_Cuda]

Small correction with my 4th opinion: I meant to say low tide beach, the subchapter with star ocean in it. Th reason i say that is because it has really hard stages for this point in the game, like beached mammals, apple bobbing ocean and bikini territory. Maybe I'm just bad or underleveled but i had SO much trouble on that subchapter. The courier one was a joke,don't take it seriously.

[@ZanyStrom]

beached mammals and ancient one-piece were my hardest for that subchapter. Its very hard if you are underleveled/underprepared. Satan's Bedroom tho...

[@Notsomebody913]

T H E B A T H R O O M

[@Call_Me_Cuda]

@@Notsomebody913 ok that one is fair lol Had to get manic mohawk to even beat it

[@superjosh2454]

There was some hot takes here But not hot enough Mystican Pasalan is not that ass ended up using it for a good chunk of SoL (1 star), and it did a surprising great job at taking enemies down Yes, it had its issues (Aka 1 knockback and fragile health), but frequently took out the annoying backliners

[@tacotown4598]

No dps?

[@thesalamandersovereign]

here’s my two hot takes: 1) As an early-game player who hasn’t beaten any crazed cats or even ItF 1, I think that the crazed/manic cats are a bad idea IN THEORY, but in practice PONOS managed to make GODLIKE stages. So, let me explain: the crazed cats are simply buffed and more valuable versions of the first 9 cats, making the originals unviable and bad, but the challenge for the crazed/manic cats (if you fight them at their intended points in time) is perfectly good and balanced. 2) D.Kasli is (kind of) good and Courier is HORRIBLE. Explanation: even if you can get D.Kasli in the early-game, she’s completely luck dependent and most events don’t have her. Courier on the other hand is obtained in (mid to late) EARLY-GAME and he carries you to ZL with no brain cells required.

[@UniversalDirp]

Hot take that got me berated on reddit: Pizza cat is overated. It's expensive, it has long cooldown, it's slow, and the health isn't very good too.

[@Surkk2960]

Gonna have to agree with the Kasli > Dasli guy, that knockback surge has saved me more times than I can count (Her + Yukimura + SSaki melted that Messier Gauntlet). Hot takes: -As someone who owns Gaia and most of the Almighties... I never use them, they just feel so clunky to use compared to most of the other units I own. -I think Twinstars can be a better anti-black rusher than Yukimura due to their survivability. -OAR is better than Amatarasu, hits as hard and you don't need 100NP for Z-Killer (LD relics being the only exception). -King Nekokahmen is underrated, really good swap for normal Eraser on floating heavy stages (also anti-gobble). -They need to buff the legend rares, most ubers are starting to outclass them...

[@iker9095]

- maybe try to use them more? Idk if it's me, but i own Gaia(alt account) and other Almighties like Amaterasu and Aphrodite and i use them very often -twin stars is a better anti black unit, but not exactly rusher since she's better than yuki against blacks because she's a good mid ranger outside of her rusher role, but for rusher purposes, yuki is still better -don't have oar so no comments about this -agreed, i use king nekokahmen is pure floating stages and toxic stages and he works very well -legend rares are more focused on destroying one trait rather than being a broken generalist(most of them),and tbh the only ubers that are better are fests or other very strong ubers. Legend rares are basically ubers , but more fancy and with rainbows

[@tacotown4598]

Oar dps: 13k Amaterasu dps: 14k Also ammy has talents so with attack up she has 16.8k dps. And she has a 50 second shorter cooldownTldr, ammy wins this one. Kasli vs dasli is complicated, but you have to remember this: dkasli has almost 50% more hp, which makes a massive difference, surge immunity, and more dps. It’s up to you which one you think is more valuable, but I find dasli to be the more versatile one. Kasli is occasionally better because of kb and occasionally worse because she has much less hp and lacks surge immune and doesn’t shut down almost every cc enemy in the game.

[@Surkk2960]

@@tacotown4598 True she is better, but that is still a lot of NP investment for Z-Killer and OAR still beats her in range and KBs. I sadly don't have Dasli, but Kasli and her KB surge has saved me on many tough levels. I do agree she needs an upgrade to get on par with her counterpart though, then again the Uberfest units in general kind of need it. Thanks for the stat comparisons though, forgot Amy was MD instead of Tough.

[@tacotown4598]

@@Surkk2960 zkill is the less expensive of her talents. Her others are more expensive but Arguably also worth it-survive gives her another kb(though if anything touches her she dies on that kb), and barrier breaker…might save you a slot occasionally. As for kasli, I agree that, though she is not quite as good as dasli, she is insanely op and a very good unit-people often overlook her because of how much attention dasli gets, but kasli is still a SSS tier Uber, there’s no doubt about it. The ammy vs OAR comparison-oar does have more range and kbs, but it doesn’t actually help the guy too much. The range difference adds a little bit ur suvivability, but how many enemies actually have less than 470 range but more than 455-not many. As for kb’d-having 8kb is pretty good, but come lategame 40800 hp starts to be a problem-it’s around the same as ammy and when I sue her she generally gets knocked back by anything that hits her, and sometimes they take off more than a single kb’s worth of hp. Having more kb deffinitly isn’t bad, but it doesn’t help as much if a unit doesn’t have the hp to back it up

[@Surkk2960]

@@tacotown4598 makes sense.

[@densecabbage2057]

20:48 Jizo is still a great uber, especially in true form, but there are other options so they're not one of the best ubers anymore. Hanzo's good range and damage output does make them good against those 2 traits. cc is kinda underwhelming, and the fact that it doesn't last as long as a Bombercat's freeze isn't good. They look like a good uber, but not phenomenal, especially when you consider how powercrept Black and Floating are. dIz works great against traitless, and traitless enemies can be extremely annoying. Also, she can fill a lot of rare niches, such as shield pierce and anti toxic. Yeah Naala is overrated, Mina is the better 4* ld attacker. Naala is tanker, but that just means they reposition less, which doesn't work well with their lower standing range and the fact that relics can have a ton of dps. From my experience, Jeanne does have very good damage output for her ld and quick attack rate, but both red and floating are extremely powercrept anyway so she's not a top tier. While definitely not bottom 3 (looks at Legeluga, Babel, and Musashit), Emperor definitely isn't great compared to other legend rares. Cosmo is definitely a good uber, but the fact that they're in such a good set means they aren't in the top 4 imo. Souma definitely isn't a top collab uber. For example, they aren't even close to as good as ranged wave blockers like Eva 00 and Tokyo miku, and their cc is nice but there are plenty of non uber options to cc those traits. Their low hp is just too much of a downside, they definitely aren't as good as Thermae, and they especially can't compare with (imo the best anti zombie uber) Vigler Mola king isn't an absolute meme, they do have usage, but their complete lack of survivability makes them unusable on too many stages. If you're able to stall the enemies well enough to easily utilize Mola King's dps, then the stage probably wasn't that hard to begin with. Definite no on this one. Aphrodite has incredible dps considering her ld and standing range, and she has amazing matchups against aliens. Amaterasu has ludicrous dps considering she targets all of traited. Both are definitely top tier almighies, and top tier ubers. I agree with this, I would even go as far to say that in the current endgame Meta, Doron is the best special legend (idi 2nd, aBaha 3rd) With savage blow talent, Housewife easily has more average dps than Fiend. Combine that with higher standing range, better niche, and nuker based attack cycle instead of multi hit, Housewife is easily the better ld attacker super rare.

[@drawer1386]

Floating enemies need a colour indicator, even if its small or a little detail like how the angels have halos

[@ГлебВинокуров-с8ы]

i mean the fact that they are gliding is considered the indicator, altho it would be nice to see some light green(because dark green is taken by relics)

[@skyjack1]

@@ГлебВинокуров-с8ы Owlbro:

[@withaneraser]

serious takes this time: i hate how people say things like "don't use this unit, because this other unit is better in every way". though some units are outright unusable imo, there's plenty of units that people dislike that i find enjoyment in, using the same units for the same traits gets boring. out of all the collab units i have, eva unit 1 is the most useful imo. he is great in both of his niches aku realms should've been it's own 3 chapter story mode, instead of a little side story that plays into late ul i don't even use her often, but holy valkyrie isn't that bad. idk if i'm just lucky or something, but it feels like she has a higher chance to freeze than what she really has. behemoths are the worst thing to be implemented into battle cats, its 3 main stages are only accessible once per day, making an already slow farming process even worse, and it hands you so little behemoth stones. the defense and offense buff that units have against them are ineffective because nearly all of them are specials/rares, and most egg units aren't even useful, against their behemoth counterpart or otherwise. with how much emphasis ponos' putting on this "trait", i just want them to move on to something else already. and last, but not least: as an artist, most unit designs feel cluttered. special legends and ubers specifically. when i draw the characters, i usually simplify their designs or just outright put them in different clothing. i don't know how other fanartists can do it, and i really don't know how the designers and animators can pull through with those units

[@iker9095]

You have to be very lucky because holy valckyrie's freeze is absolutely horrible, 35% chance for a 2 seconds freeze is sad even as a bonus

[@DongbaekEGOSpicebush]

Hold on Empress cat is that rare? I had a chance to get her with plat tickets but chose phono instead...

[@K-yu-ko8dv]

my hot take is that courier is only so divisive because he is new. He is overpowered but compared to a unit like Can Can or cyberpunk he is of a similar quality against everything but the red bird

[@K-yu-ko8dv]

he is more or less an anti red anti behemoth Jizo with lower stackability but rusher capacity

[@Xenon059]

Some actually talked about empress cat😱 like that guy she has been one of my main units since I eoc ch3 were I got her from a plat ticket and she's carried me through basically all of sol and has even found use in UL crazy underrated unit and can absolutely shit on any enemy she counters

[@RedNWhite2]

16:19 I actually beat that stage without doing cotc but it took a long time after killing everything else

[@gengarultimate]

Genuinely believe that the brainwashed special (sniper neneko etc) and grandson who be permanent gacha members at this point

[@MaxErous]

21:43 truly a 13.7 true form moment

[@final_dash]

garu should get wave blocker

[@fabhasthetism_silly]

as someone in the like 1000+% Brollow SoL stage I am offended that someone called them not annoying

[@majesticeagle6629]

A friend stated that Dartanyan is ok, Shishilan is only good against manic cats, and that kasa is ok. ALSO I JUST GOT ENIGMA LEVEL 6!

[@scouttf2143]

Dartanyan is a very good rusher, shishilan is a phenomenal generalist for most of the game and falls of in endgame.

[@MysteryBox48]

the aku became completely irrelevant in UL, the akus were supposed to have their own levels and they did, but as the updates progressed and PONOS was already implementing the colossus and behemoths, the akus were only left as ultra-strong enemies, and now, the aku gates are useless for nothing other than giving you good rewards, as well as being very mandatory for game progression, and it's almost like CoTC treasures, if you want to beat the game win a few, and if you want to win easily win all, It is the same for the aku realms, since the altar seal only appears in 2 subchapters and it is not seen again, if it were not for the fact that the rewards they give you are very good (especially jagando and the Plat-ticket) the aku realms do not they add nothing of value. At least I would like UL to end with great ape lord as the final boss and Zero Luza as the main boss of Zero legend so that: 1.- They don't give you an egg, but Great Ape Luza as a unit and its TF is obtained by completing "a whole new world" 2.- Zero luza can be used as a unit instead of G.A.L. to have the badass monke on our side 3.- that filibuster and cat god the golden get their TF through CoTC Outbreak (cat god the golden's was already there but it would be nice to get it from here so you don't get a horrible stat boost) 4.- With the above, the other two missing outbreaks are motivated to come out at once and we can use more energy 5.- With CoTC Outbreaks, I hope something is done with filibuster and CGtG, when you finish an outbreak, they give it stats improvements and don't leave them so useless.

[@zmcoolguyYT]

Hot take: Kasli the Bane (D’asli) is extremely overrated. Let’s break it down. First is her surge. She has a nicely levelled surge attack which boosts her damage a lot, but in later game her surge falls off. Especially with enemy counter surge, immune to surge and resist surge makes her questionable. Sure, she has immunity to surge so counter surge won’t affect her, but then what’s the point of her surge attack? If her surge attack doesn’t land a hit or misses, then Kasli is stuck with only 17000 damage with a low 2.9k DPS which is crap. Next, let us talk about her curse. Kasli’s curse ability is a nice touch to her niche, but that’s about it. Her curse is one of the only things making her good. Next let’s talk about her niche. Kasli has LD and some immunities (basically acting as a sniper). Like courier, LD makes her have a better kit. But, there is one immunity that is bad with LD, that being immune to warp. Same problem with Nobiluga, if a sniper has immunity to warp, then they cannot reposition themselves. Another thing to mention is how hard it is to get her, since she only comes from Epicfest (sometimes other banners). With all of this said, this is why I think Kasli the Bane is overrated and will fall off soon.

[@positivedud4961]

I think ultralan pasalan is a nice and fun unit to use :)

[@siggymilfordjigutzpilgrid]

Masochist alert

[@positivedud4961]

Nah, it’s the longest range unit I have that has half decent damage.

[@Fabled_Adventure_Girl_Kanna]

1. Superfeline is such a garbage normal cat. He is purely anti trait and not even good at it for the point of progression you unlock him. Every normal cat has some sort of role representative: -Basic: cheap meatshield -Tank: tanky meatshield -Axe: trait meatshield -Gross: midrange -Cow: rusher -Bird: glass cannon -Fish: trait tank -Lizard: long range -Titan: major tank -Superfeline: anti relic nuker? Superfeline is too specific in its use for a normal, it doesn't have a specific role he is just anti something. 2. Gravi is the best pixie uber 3. Emperor is great due his wide range of crowd qualities 4. A. Bahamut is getting worse and worse as the new stages are added as he dies quickly and doesn't do enough damage 5. Cyborg is awful at endgame but good at midgame 6. Uber carry is acceptable and shouldn't be a problem 7. Uber tier list brings the worst discussions 8. Behemoth stones are pure garbage. Same with Behemoths. 9. PONOS should add a lot more rares and super rares to regular gacha 10. Gacha system is bad and should be improved. Not removed. Improved 11. Catclaw dojo should get an update with new levels, rewards and weekly leaderboard as a competitive aspect of the game 12. Gold pass should change and/or be cheaper, giving away catfood is not interesting or special 13. Seed tracking is more fun than regular game 14. Rank up rewards are too weak (Yes I mainly wanted to rant about Superfeline)

[@lexjastinbaltazar]

I can agree with some point but with Bahamut getting worse is not one of them. To an extent I agree but not enough damage and getting worse is not. His damage can still leave a giant dent on enemies and can change a fight as for getting worse, he not. Bahamut is not made for every stages and in the stages he can work in he works really well. He is and always will be the best legend unit in the game and even if he gets outclassed by a new legend unit in the future he will still be the most impactful unit in the game.

[@chillfacenoob]

Chun Chun Haunters isn't that bad against Aku and Angels. Curse is good against the angel unicorn I've forgot the name of.

[@LunaRealized]

jizo completely murders SoL, kinda like gao, but the meta has shifted away from swarm and become reliant on devastating combos. The introduction of Zero Legends has turned pre-doron UL into late midgame/lategame, with everything after switching to endgame with new content being released and maxed units being necessary. This content/meta shift has resulted in jizo becoming a midgame unit rather than the all-game powerhouse he used to be. Basically, jizo didn't get worse, the meta just changed, leaving jizo behind. Also pizza completely murdered his anti-black niche, but it's not noticable until later SoL. Regardless, jizo is still insane for all of SoL, the deadly advents, COTC, and some UL, and he should remain at least an S+ unit just for that. Also mitama is still insane lmao I used her for Birth of True Man and she cleaned up despite the curse/outrange. You can just pair her with curseblast or Dasli (you filthy seed-tracker) to nullify her lack of immunity.

[@TheGreenDino69]

21:00 Bro was cooking absolutely nothing with some of those takes

[@Taneo7]

13:40 Agreed with this guy R Ost is not a problem because when I have free space on stage that has him I tend to bring Manic King Dragon and sometimes even Normal King Dragon and they bully R Ost. Crazed Axe and Dragon were pretty easy 1st try. Manic Dragon I cheese him but Manic Dark was the hard one and I lose to him 2 times. I just like demolishing stages and when you grind with treasure fest is easy. As someone who recently beat that stage for the first time it was HELL. Against no reds he’s good against red he’s very good against Behemoth reds he demolish them. Edit: Forgot brollow, For him just bring Camera man or any spammable area attacker.

[@RemotelyInsane]

Snow Angel Twin stars over regular twin stars

[@lexjastinbaltazar]

Depends

[@jesseyu162]

hot take: (I changed it because people kept fighting over it and opinions don’t exist) Shishi is as good as Luffy. They’re both the absolute gods at something. Shishi has insane Survivability, Luffy can deal absurd amounts of damage and has extremely high DPS. Like 30k or something. BUT, Shishi can also do insane amounts of damage after he gets knocked back once. 51k HP isn’t much of a problem if he has 100 KBs. He still has about 1000x more HP than other Lugas so people shouldn’t complain about his HP lol. Shishi also has a way shorter CD. I don’t know how long it is, but Luffy’s CD is like 3x longer. You can get multiple Shishis, but not multiple Luffys out at the same time, since Luffy has terrible HP like other Lugas. TL;DR: They’re both insane units.

[@Spotth]

Shitshi is just a generic generalist. His 101 kbs may make it look like invincible but if you still take a shit ton of dmg they mean nothing. Lufy on the other hand gas a much more valuable role.

[@Spotth]

@S Lufy has amazing range, if you get pushed back you just suck. Shishi's hp is just ok (51k at lvl 30). His many kbs mean nothing if you get hit hard, and it can actually backfire since it can get interrupted by anything. The survive may give it a 2nd chance but given his slow ass atk animation that most likely never matters. Also the atk animation brings up another point: you can have all the atk power you want but it doesn't matter if you sit back and miss half of your attacks lol.

[@lexjastinbaltazar]

Jesus this is just became a war

[@Spotth]

@S It doesn't lol. There's a pretty big range difference between shitshi (455, roughly generic generalist range) and lufy (720 range). Getting enemies to hit lufy takes an immense amount of skill issue. And lastly Lufy has a much more valuable and hard to replace role than shitshi, and especially in late/end game it sees much more use.

[@jesseyu162]

@@Spotth Doesn’t Shishi have more range???

[@hooh647]

Bora and Gravi are above Voli. While Voli is great in all alien stages and probably the best pixie if not unit in CotC (outside of lumina). Gravi has generalist usage for his wave and is one of the best barrierbreakers in the game bc of his wave and Bora still does good damage in mixed stages and has absolutely disgusting DPS against aliens.

[@Iexist8003]

Myrcia deserves strong against traitless, there’s no reason to use her once you get more anti-traitless

[@VerdicoVince]

Hot take, there should be a sick crossover with Bread Kittens

[@collloser5424]

As someone who has an amazing collection, time to answer a few you couldn’t: Dasli is undoubtedly better than kasli. I’ve had both for awhile and find myself feeling underwhelmed with kasli quite often, just because of how good dasli is everywhere. She completely demolished literally everything. Kasli is still amazing, but her stats are definitely too weak compared to dasli to be better. Emperor is incredible. He’s an incredible cat, with a ridiculous 551 range, which outranges tons of stuff, and he’s completely generalist, with a very good chance to debuff. The randomness can be offputting at times, but he makes up for that by also just having a great stat line. He’s absolutely not a bottom three legend And I completely agree with the empress point; she’s amazing

[@ceooffrenchfries]

did i just see someone solo crazed gross with dual tank cats and darktanyan

[@joesphterry3319]

13:34 same star ocean was pretty easy for me

[@liptonpipton4135]

PONOS should not be afraid to nerf overpowered special - rare - super rare units. Their priorities can ruin the game

[@salescreatenburn1544]

I think who is Chantel is a very good black in Angels unit primarily good for XP stages for black enemies not really that good or over bad good stages but overall he’s a pretty good unit in overtaken by peach angels instead knowing that I have them on level 40 in Blue Shield Tara is only level 36

[@skyjack1]

what

[@thatoneguy6275]

the background is better call Saul in the intro

[@zeusalexanderpabuaya4541]

Dang the battle cats bg music is epic

[@BalotelliXD]

Psychoduck is one of the best seasonal ubers, at least top 3. As well as a great anti aku

[@skyjack1]

Psycho is also overlooked as a Red Ener G counter, with target red and anti-surge.

[@Terasenai]

@@skyjack1 it has that?maybe i should get that...

[@Epok_Gamurr_5975]

Momotaro is the best Ultra Soul.

[@mrcatthewidest]

Dark Kasli is overrated... Lets see how many people can i piss off

[@tortoise629]

Old o fortuna will always the best

[@bananabread9260]

Im too much of a casual player to have any hot takes, ill be back in 3 years when im good enough so i could actualy have an opinion

[@Robert96902]

That guy who said Aphro and Amaterasu are in the lower half of best Almighties… wth then who is in his upper half 🤣 Aphro is such a carry in tons of stages, it was one of the first ubers I ever pulled 🥹

[@Terasenai]

clearly ganesha is there

[@ourlordandsaviorramen9546]

Ngl I didn't expect you to read out the myrica comment

[@benjamenturley96]

IG isn’t bad also I don’t have truth from you, but I did use them as a pinker during black cyclone which worked very well. I beat the stage on my third try I think I don’t know very good anti black

[@randomguyonyoutube3756]

Nerd cat is very good. Even if the upgrades cost a lot of xp to upgrade, It's Still great. Nerd cat is first form cyberpunk

[@placek__]

i got empress cat from the anniversary platinum ticket i didn't even know she's that good