[REAL ATC] Air China A320 receives TERRAIN ALERT | ALMOST CRASHED

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@VASAviation
@VASAviation 6 жыл бұрын
First of all, sorry for being a bit inactive with the channel during the last days. I've been quite busy with my personal job. Thanks also everyone for your birthday wishes on last Wednesday! Let's see what 23s bring to me :D *What do you think about this video? Super kudos to this controller for saving the aircraft. Why would they change the direction of the departure? Remember to monitorize your autopilot at all times ;)*
@ohtarelenion
@ohtarelenion 6 жыл бұрын
Looks like they tried going straight to RUMSY after departure, instead of going through PRAWN.
@mikecowen6507
@mikecowen6507 6 жыл бұрын
VASAviation - Happy birthday, Victor! My guess is that they entered the wrong waypoint into the FMS (or skipped one). Rookie mistake not to double check your flightplan.
@naoeleo
@naoeleo 6 жыл бұрын
I think they misheard the Heading of 130 instead of FL130. If the ATC did not notice the CCA428, this left turn'll make them fly into the Lantau Peak (3068 ft)
@oktal3700
@oktal3700 6 жыл бұрын
Happy birthday, Victor. Chinese pilots flying in Chinese airspace never use flight levels like this, Hong Kong is the only part of China that uses them. So when they hear a three digit number it is usually a heading.
@nbyz
@nbyz 6 жыл бұрын
oktal - makes lots of sense!
@maniaweng
@maniaweng 5 жыл бұрын
It's scary to hear and watch how close was this flight to a total disaster and even MORE SCARY was you could hear the sense of urgency from the ATC (more than the pilots). It was out of instinct that she didn't use ATC language at one point by saying "turn right" --- my goodness. WELL DONE HONG KONG!!! And, so proud of the professional and sharp ATC.
@KevinLuWX
@KevinLuWX 3 жыл бұрын
It actually wasn't close. The terrain they were heading for was only 1000 feet, they were way above that
@MrDumile
@MrDumile 3 жыл бұрын
The pilots went silent for a bit ...probably because they were getting proper busy ...so they did did have a sense of urgency
@speedstyle.
@speedstyle. 2 жыл бұрын
@@KevinLuWX They were turning towards heading 130 and terrain over 1500ft, only 4nm/1minute from the runway. At a typical 300ft/nm or 1500fpm, they weren't necessarily 'way above' that.
@iwatchwithnoads7480
@iwatchwithnoads7480 Жыл бұрын
It demonstrates how even the most professional of people can miscommunicate under pressure. She said bearing 0 accidentally, but then corrected. Imagine if pilot didn't hear correction and took u-turn into the mountain without thinking
@mechadoggy
@mechadoggy Жыл бұрын
Especially at 1:35
@barrydawson9000
@barrydawson9000 6 жыл бұрын
To the Hong Kong departure controller, Thankyou for your outstanding work. Your professionalism and dedication to your stressful job is appreciated by every single member in the aviation industry.
@taraann7753
@taraann7753 6 жыл бұрын
That ATC was great to listen to,she was really alert and noticed that plane was heading for disaster,I don't understand how that happened in the first place if Air Traffic were telling him what to do,that pilot didn't speak very clear at times,it's very confusing.
@schawafelschwamm6586
@schawafelschwamm6586 6 жыл бұрын
Agnes T I would go crazy with the background noise of the responding airplane😂
@cococly
@cococly 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks to the good training of the Hong Kong Civil Aviation Department, most of these ATC controller started as merely High School Graduates (with good grades in English, of course)
@polargtv7212
@polargtv7212 6 жыл бұрын
cococly they should have trained the god damn chefs the food in HK SUCKS and eat like SHIT
@125sloth
@125sloth 6 жыл бұрын
Given that English is supposed to be the international language of flight, and non English speaking pilots are supposed to have passed tests to a given standard in English, this pilot's English was far from acceptable. And if you want to hear poor English and indeed see poor flying, bordering on dangerous, look up all the issues Air Asia X have, even in Australia. At one stage only a couple of years ago, there were eight investigations going on around the same time in Australia, involving Air Asia, both in the air, and even on the ground. Pathetic airline, hiding behind bullshit lies about their incidents.
@chesleyhu624
@chesleyhu624 6 жыл бұрын
Misunderstand FL130 to heading 130 could happen to anyone in radio, no matter how good English speaker you are! They do have some problem in English compare to Native speaker, but in this case it's not reason what this happened. I can't see anything in this video shows this pilot's English was far from acceptable.
@NN-uu9qo
@NN-uu9qo 6 жыл бұрын
Captain: Set direct RUMSY. We are important people and deserve a shortcut. FO: Sir, there is a high terrain ahead. Captain: I'm the captain. That mountain will move.
@gomphrena-beautifulflower-8043
@gomphrena-beautifulflower-8043 6 жыл бұрын
N W • haha! Now you're talking how my husband's grandmother used to DRIVE lol
@safe-keeper1042
@safe-keeper1042 5 жыл бұрын
@YouGamerGirl The lighthouse was the first thing I thought of too when I saw N W's post. It's an old commercial originally, actually.
@junkonakamura3441
@junkonakamura3441 4 жыл бұрын
It is like one of the many jokes which many people like to make on Zlatan Ibrahimovic.
@Viper3256a
@Viper3256a 3 жыл бұрын
Terrain: I am the Captain now
@text97
@text97 3 жыл бұрын
I think he forgot the first waypoint.
@selftrue670
@selftrue670 6 жыл бұрын
VAS, you're sorry for being inactive? You generously present some of the best content on KZbin, and we are quite thankful and patient.
@VASAviation
@VASAviation 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you veeery much for this comment. I always try to keep the channel active but my job stole my time :D
@MegaMech
@MegaMech 6 жыл бұрын
Self True VAS just steals videos from H89SA. Thank that guy instead
@comicsansgreenkirby
@comicsansgreenkirby 3 жыл бұрын
Most of us anyway. MegaMech is the other side of the coin.
@ilovechieftains
@ilovechieftains 6 жыл бұрын
Besides the fact that they disregarded ATC, mistaked heading for flight level, and didn't follow the departure path. My question is how in the world did they miss the big red blob on their terrain radar, or the intercom "Terrain Terrain" verbal warning
@whiplash7400
@whiplash7400 6 жыл бұрын
I'm just being picky, but it would be Terrain! Ahead!
@ilovechieftains
@ilovechieftains 6 жыл бұрын
Gamingwithsean GPWS says both ;)
@frank7353
@frank7353 6 жыл бұрын
Because they were 2000ft above terrain so they did not hear anything.
@leviathan85
@leviathan85 6 жыл бұрын
Because they were never in any danger; they were already thousands of feet higher than the terrain...
@MikeMike-er7kn
@MikeMike-er7kn 6 жыл бұрын
May have been Terrain alert on Hong Kong radar/ATC only.....
@billygowhoop
@billygowhoop 6 жыл бұрын
I haven't heard too many ATCs sound as panicked as she was when she gave the terrain warning. As someone who just likes to read and watch videos of this stuff, it always shocks me how calm pilots and ground control are when in the middle of a really disastrous situation. Always comforting to know that I'm almost always in the hands of true professional.
@itsumonihon
@itsumonihon 6 жыл бұрын
the infamous HK female controllers. mermaids? you will rarely find ATC as professional as the women working ATC in hong kong. they are wonderful to talk to and extremely professional. they take their jobs very seriously.
@tigersfan14
@tigersfan14 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, in fact most women in most industries take their jobs seriously.
@ethank7813
@ethank7813 6 жыл бұрын
The Korean, Singaporean and HK ATCs are the best in Asia..
@lostcluster2
@lostcluster2 6 жыл бұрын
her voice melts my heart
@Prairielander
@Prairielander 6 жыл бұрын
Well you should if you are an Air Traffic Controller. If you make a mistake people can die.
@toddlavigne6441
@toddlavigne6441 5 жыл бұрын
as they should....that pilot and co-pilot should lose the licenses.
@ranggaalr
@ranggaalr 6 жыл бұрын
watching this while in the airport going to china
@ranggaalr
@ranggaalr 6 жыл бұрын
lmao I'm going Hong Kong too!!
@davemojarra4734
@davemojarra4734 6 жыл бұрын
Ejuice Planning to go, you mean.
@badiuaitici6522
@badiuaitici6522 6 жыл бұрын
have a safe flight
@VASAviation
@VASAviation 6 жыл бұрын
Have a nice flight! :)
@ranggaalr
@ranggaalr 6 жыл бұрын
Jus Axn no I'm in Hong Kong now
@howardflies
@howardflies 6 жыл бұрын
This lady is on Hong Kong Flight Information Control on weekends giving us VFR leisure pilots traffic information. Always helpful and always calm even in the most extreme of events, always great to hear her over the radio.
@ahmedfayaaz8780
@ahmedfayaaz8780 6 жыл бұрын
one single warning saved a lot of lives. Hats off to the ATC controller
@hml878
@hml878 6 жыл бұрын
Wow~~! I can feel the urgency, my heart start pumping~~!! The ATC lady done a great job!!!
@picard714
@picard714 6 жыл бұрын
Controller for Hong Kong Departure: Bless you, for all the souls aboard you saved that day!
@weirdsearchhistory5876
@weirdsearchhistory5876 3 жыл бұрын
Before you get out of range I’ve got a number for you to call.
@heihei4467
@heihei4467 3 жыл бұрын
Rip
@DiRF
@DiRF 3 жыл бұрын
Did not copy that last transmission. Having radio issues. Cleared to change frequency.
@MrHankHill
@MrHankHill 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@JerryChanD
@JerryChanD 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe some correction here: The mountain at terrain alert should be more south by the green route abort 3cm on the map, that is the true 3000 feet mountain not the mountain on the green route. As that little mountain in "Tai O" village not tall, but the most dangerous terrain for the "Lung Tsai Ng" mountains all the way to the south are high enough to make them crash if they didn't change the direction. Still a close call. But there has a serious matter afterwards: Air China refused their flight crew error and questions about the air traffic control officer’s directions. WTH with this? All departure route for VHHH was set there long ago pilot MUST follow.
@sondesix_
@sondesix_ 5 жыл бұрын
That atc is so professional and a joy to listen.
@georgerivera9035
@georgerivera9035 6 жыл бұрын
Expedite right turn, expedite climb. You mean right now? Terrain ahead, expedite right turn, expedite climb. She saved everyone on that plane. Great work whoever you are.
@kkho2198
@kkho2198 6 жыл бұрын
"you mean right now". facepalm. this airline should be BANNED
@georgemcdonald7922
@georgemcdonald7922 4 жыл бұрын
What you mean expedite?
@dosaussiethai2127
@dosaussiethai2127 4 жыл бұрын
@@georgemcdonald7922 Expedite = make it happen fast.
@thomasdahl3083
@thomasdahl3083 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe the occasion would allow her to say that part in Chinese also, just to be sure that they do understand the danger of the situation.
@thomasdahl3083
@thomasdahl3083 4 жыл бұрын
@@dosaussiethai2127 yes, but if their English level is low, they might not understand that word.
@Prophlor
@Prophlor 6 жыл бұрын
Looks like they were turning to flight heading 130 instead of climbing to flight level 130.
@oktal3700
@oktal3700 6 жыл бұрын
I agree. Hong Kong is the only part of China where flight levels like this are used. Elsewhere they use metric (e.g. "three thousand niner hundred meters"). So when they hear a group of three digits, it is usually a heading.
@TheSpacecraftX
@TheSpacecraftX 6 жыл бұрын
That sounds insanely dangerous.
@paulshewmaker4568
@paulshewmaker4568 6 жыл бұрын
130 would be almost reversing course. I think there was a failure to program PRAWN in the flight computer. It should have been VHHH->PRAWN->RUMSY. He even says he's flying direct RUMSY at 1:41. PRAWN is a fly-over point with the warning "Due to terrain, left turn must NOT commence before PRAWN." You can see the layout at 2:17. The incorrect heading was definitely direct RUMSY.
@xheralt
@xheralt 6 жыл бұрын
Good analysis.
@oktal3700
@oktal3700 6 жыл бұрын
+Paul Shewmaker could be.
@Trades46
@Trades46 6 жыл бұрын
ATC lady has really clear English and response time. She probably saved an Air China flight from ending up into Lantau islands. Personally am flying China Eastern this week to Shanghai. Hopefully it would be smooth sailing.
@Ayeshteni
@Ayeshteni 3 жыл бұрын
Probably want a smooth flight. If it's smooth sailing, something's gone wrong.
@Tobo226
@Tobo226 4 жыл бұрын
Literally a life saver! Props to her
@ANO-.-NYM
@ANO-.-NYM 4 жыл бұрын
Awe, I love her voice!
@tomriley5790
@tomriley5790 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic work by Hong Kong ATC, clear concise and direct. Excellent work.
@eaglen00b
@eaglen00b 3 жыл бұрын
Jeepers, good thing ATC was on the ball. Also lucky it wasn't too busy, or it would've taken longer before the course change was noticed!
@AntBangBang
@AntBangBang 3 жыл бұрын
Boy oh boy the ATC saved their asses. She was brilliant.
@violinbird77
@violinbird77 6 жыл бұрын
Whatever departure briefing procedures the flight crew did, it was definitely wrong.
@TheSpacecraftX
@TheSpacecraftX 6 жыл бұрын
They may have misinterpreted flight level as heading instructions.
@xheralt
@xheralt 6 жыл бұрын
No. As noted above, heading 130 would have been near-reciprocal to their original heading. See @Paul Shewmaker's post, above.
@kkho2198
@kkho2198 6 жыл бұрын
they bribed someone
@hostrauer
@hostrauer 4 жыл бұрын
All I can think is that they failed to enter PRAWN into the navigation computer so the autopilot turned them direct to RUMSY.
@Quotenwagnerianer
@Quotenwagnerianer 3 жыл бұрын
@@hostrauer But how do you fail that? This is an A320. You just tell the computer which departure you want to fly and that's it. Not to mention that I assume that this not the first time they flew out of VHHH. And then they know that all departures in western direction fly over PRAWN and then RUMSY. Without exception.
@elliotchen7706
@elliotchen7706 6 жыл бұрын
Wow, that was close. Good job ATC!
@davidchodds
@davidchodds 6 жыл бұрын
Great job by ATC and great response by the pilot. Overall, they avoided a major disaster.
@kkho2198
@kkho2198 6 жыл бұрын
only the ATC. the pilot misbehaved
@OddDreams101
@OddDreams101 6 жыл бұрын
Ahhhh I see what happened. They probably punched in RUMSY instead of PRAWN, which took them right into the mountain
@wshtb
@wshtb 6 жыл бұрын
Last year, something similar happened at Los Angeles airport. A commercial jet was given wrong instruction after takeoff, causing it to get REALLY close to the Mt. Wilson.
@VASAviation
@VASAviation 6 жыл бұрын
That incident was covered by VASAviation as well.
@flybyairplane3528
@flybyairplane3528 6 жыл бұрын
Nobody Yes I do recall that incident, I am in NJ, ( east coast ), it was not until, I saw the terrain, did I know of Mt Wilson,.Frank Sinatra 'S mother ,the flight was sent into a canyon, not sure what took out Dean Martins sons plane
@lmlmlmz
@lmlmlmz 6 жыл бұрын
is the pilot chinese? sorry just asking for the viewer. most of them try to fit the stereotype.
@kkho2198
@kkho2198 6 жыл бұрын
no the pilot is taiwanese. but the controller at LAX gave confusing instructions. here, the stupid pilot took things to his own hands and the Hong Kong controller diffused his idiotic move
@r.a.contrerasma8578
@r.a.contrerasma8578 5 жыл бұрын
This FC was outstandingly professional. Gave clear instructions. The one at LAX was not calm nor collected; she was arrogant and gave confusing (nearly fatal) instructions.
@TheKickboxingCommunity
@TheKickboxingCommunity 3 жыл бұрын
Those pilots probably had a little chat with the big boss ☝️😂
@BULLSHXTYT
@BULLSHXTYT 6 жыл бұрын
They are trying to visit Big buddha in On Ping, Hong Kong
@kkho2198
@kkho2198 6 жыл бұрын
we dont want them. tho personally speaking i dont mine the china plane crash into the buddah
@easonlau9468
@easonlau9468 3 жыл бұрын
😄
@nicrative807
@nicrative807 6 жыл бұрын
Pilots understood FL130 as heading 130. Controller seems like she didn't hear the readback and said the instruction again. I think maybe word "unreadable, confirm FL130" could have saved the situation earlier. Nevertheless amazing job by the controller acting quickly after the software gave her a warning of aircraft entering on buffered zone.
@kkho2198
@kkho2198 6 жыл бұрын
wouldnt be possible/sensible had he done his homework.
@jofox8066
@jofox8066 6 жыл бұрын
Flight controller did well I thought.
@rubenvillanueva2753
@rubenvillanueva2753 6 жыл бұрын
Jo Fox she could have spotted that deviation to left a bit sooner, i would say. Knowing, that the flight was following a SID procedure. Those first few minutes after departure, when the pilots are cleaning up the aircraft, raising the gear, raising the flaps, setting climb speeds, could have distracted them, and made them think they passed PRAWN fix, where they then are allowed to turn left to Rumsy, well clear of the high terrain. A lucky flight crew.
@rubenvillanueva2753
@rubenvillanueva2753 6 жыл бұрын
Basil Alzubaydi listening to the tape provided, i can only discern that she had three (3) other aircraft, and they were all in climbing phase. Three, plus Ac428 does not put this into a very busy scenario. It is great that she corrected the deviation before it became a disaster,. I have in my career seen this happen, wether it was an early turn or busting an altitude restriction on a SID, one corrects it, as she did and you press on with your other traffic.
@kkho2198
@kkho2198 6 жыл бұрын
its a shame she didnt put the chinese into their graveyard
@georgemcdonald7922
@georgemcdonald7922 4 жыл бұрын
HONG so low!
@KONAMAN100
@KONAMAN100 3 жыл бұрын
Super decisive clear calm urgent. Pro.
@superfast30
@superfast30 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome job by the lady at ATC!
@tenforetenfore
@tenforetenfore 4 жыл бұрын
She's amazing! Just a ATC Venus
@bmused55
@bmused55 6 жыл бұрын
That is one very alert ATC. Kudos to her.
@aurelmatthews4164
@aurelmatthews4164 4 жыл бұрын
I get the impression if every airspace had her controlling it we wouldn't have any more flight accidents.
@kyawphonemo4000
@kyawphonemo4000 2 жыл бұрын
Very much respect to ATC. 🙏 She save many live and plane.
@cityuser
@cityuser 6 жыл бұрын
EXPEDITE! EXPEDITE!
@horvath83
@horvath83 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent ATC performance
@kkho2198
@kkho2198 6 жыл бұрын
thats why Hong Kong has high standards and should avoid assimilation with prc
@senzomcmanus
@senzomcmanus 4 жыл бұрын
I love these videos!! I always leave with the same feeling though.... 2020 and the radio quality still sucks! How pilots understand each other I will never know.
@drivingforgiraffes
@drivingforgiraffes 3 жыл бұрын
I always assume the audio was recorded by some guy sitting in a windowless brown van full of radio equipment somewhere in the airport parking lot. Not from ATC or the planes in question.
@krisraps
@krisraps 5 жыл бұрын
WOW! What a great save, wow
@husseinandout3867
@husseinandout3867 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. Her voice was shaking. She was terrified of what might've happened if she didn't take action. Good job lady.
@elcastorgrande
@elcastorgrande 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent work by the ATC, very distracted work by PIC and FO.
@freddo517
@freddo517 6 жыл бұрын
That atc is an expert 👍👍
@Radionut
@Radionut 6 жыл бұрын
Wow close. That arc sure has a sweet voice
@TheKickboxingCommunity
@TheKickboxingCommunity 3 жыл бұрын
Hats off to the ATC
@TheCormTube
@TheCormTube 4 жыл бұрын
"Air China 428 please replace the child's walkie talkie you are using with an actual radio system immediately"
@samuelfan3503
@samuelfan3503 6 жыл бұрын
Hong Kong Air Traffic Controllers are professional!
@trixter21992251
@trixter21992251 Жыл бұрын
I love how calm ATC and pilots can be. I've nothing to do with aviation, but I'm picking up that expedite means 'right the fuck now'
@MrSupasonics
@MrSupasonics 6 жыл бұрын
Do you have any noticeable or interesting ATC-pilot record from old Kai Tak Airport? That Hong Kong curve / Kai Tak Checkerboard approach was really really crazy... I still remember when I visit there early~mid 90s, and that landing was one of the memorable moments in my life XD I still remember that thrill lol .... Time flies, I really miss my 90s days, things were not complicated or screwed like today..... except that Kai Tak turn XD
@theberrybest
@theberrybest 4 жыл бұрын
I use to think that air travel was safer than what I'm learning here over the past month. Scary to think how many close calls, and near misses these pilots avert. Holy moly!
@harmoneyreilly4225
@harmoneyreilly4225 6 жыл бұрын
Great work by atc
@kkho2198
@kkho2198 6 жыл бұрын
thats why Hong Kong has high standards and should avoid assimilation with prc
@lzphoi2351
@lzphoi2351 3 жыл бұрын
good job for Tower, good job for captain, and good job for this video maker!
@skpracta
@skpracta 6 жыл бұрын
That ATC should be the same tower controller of the China Eastern Airlines 765 which skid out of Runway 25R earlier this year.
@infl
@infl 6 жыл бұрын
Alerts like this world has never seen
@schawafelschwamm6586
@schawafelschwamm6586 6 жыл бұрын
Server Porn and so did the passengers. If they had known😂😂
@tech99070
@tech99070 3 жыл бұрын
"And Air China 428 when you've got a moment I've got a reeducation camp number I'd like you to report to"
@nb2008nc
@nb2008nc 3 жыл бұрын
Only Uighurs and pro-democracy Hong Kong demonstrators go there.
@billwall267
@billwall267 3 жыл бұрын
@@nb2008nc and Americans who don't go along with critical race theory and trans propaganda
@jamescollier3
@jamescollier3 3 жыл бұрын
@@billwall267 that's everyone. Because 1/2 are raging hypocrites.
@harmoneyreilly4225
@harmoneyreilly4225 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the posts
@69ChevyGarage
@69ChevyGarage 6 жыл бұрын
1967 radio reception in 2017. Wow!!!
@TheChibiGingi
@TheChibiGingi 6 жыл бұрын
And this, my friends, is why I couldn't be an ATC. I'd lose my cool so fast. "BITCH YOU GOING INTO A MOUNTAIN, CLIMB, CLIMB, CLIMB!"
@streetcar6080
@streetcar6080 Ай бұрын
Exactly!
@xjcrossx
@xjcrossx 3 жыл бұрын
He probably just wanted to get to cruise faster so he flies right towards the mountain and is told by ATC to go higher a lot quicker. Smart.
@chewybuoyeel
@chewybuoyeel 3 жыл бұрын
Dang, ATCs must hate that lol
@thecornedbeefcouncil9792
@thecornedbeefcouncil9792 3 жыл бұрын
What a lad!
@jeffrey5703
@jeffrey5703 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic Air Traffic Controller.
@bobthecannibal1
@bobthecannibal1 6 жыл бұрын
This is why you don't cut corners, why you read and correctly implement the published departure chart, and why complacency is dangerous. Any questions?
@kkho2198
@kkho2198 6 жыл бұрын
chiense do exacrttly taht
@SenorCrazylegs
@SenorCrazylegs 6 жыл бұрын
Hong Kong pilot here. The Chinese carriers, particularly the minor ones, pull shit like this all the time. The terrain thing has happened twice at least now. At other times I've heard them take random headings without clearance whilst the controller scrabbles to separate them from other traffic, then has to explain to them not to do that. Good times. Don't fly cheap unless you're in the first world. Some airline standards are absolutely appalling. You'd be shocked.
@ningnyco1782
@ningnyco1782 6 жыл бұрын
Mars pilot here, The Earth airplane is just bullshit, used turbine jet which was ancient technology.
@echoscorpion
@echoscorpion 6 жыл бұрын
wow, no matter what kind of pilot you are, there was not a decent man here.
@jahurz93
@jahurz93 6 жыл бұрын
This shit is real. I dunno how many times spring air and China southern have caused havoc at my area. No clue about the borneo terrain and repeated calls by atc to follow got ignored because of English accent. Koreans are also bad but not up to China's level. No such issues with cathay dragon and Japanese carriers visiting.
@echoscorpion
@echoscorpion 6 жыл бұрын
jahurz93 wow, this HK air traffic controller said ”this shit”, really good English skill. I think some Chinese pilots can manipulate the English language pretty good. If any pilot made any trouble caused by their language, then just file a complaint or a safety report. Judging people by their nationality is really low.
@jahurz93
@jahurz93 6 жыл бұрын
Am not judging by their nationality. Just stating what we experience in our region when they come in. There are a lot of good China folks with very good english especially those flying the long haul sectors some of the best instructors are even from china. There are just unfortunately many with poor basic english due to rapid expansion and that is unacceptable when it comes to flying. Redcap, Singaporean and Malaysian crew have been filing reports because of the potential hazards. LOL. A simple instruction to fly into heading 230 and they seemed to be unable to get 230 message i dunno how many times they've asked to double verify that atc had to ask vicinity pilots near it in the air to HF the message to them when the instruction and audio is very clear. In certain times our own local pilots would message them over in mandarin to get the instructions straight and understandable to them but if we dont have any chinese speaking crew around then its a long waiting game for others. Not asking them to sport a polished brit accent but just a basic command and hearing. I believe if the mainland low cost carriers implement full CPDLC when flying to foreign sectors the issues could've been reduced in great numbers but sadly not all of the airlines have them onboard and we can only sent it to some of the airlines having them.
@gungagalunga9040
@gungagalunga9040 4 жыл бұрын
I would have pulled them over for an alcohol breath test.
@thegeographicalterm5974
@thegeographicalterm5974 3 жыл бұрын
lol
@amazingtruth8087
@amazingtruth8087 6 жыл бұрын
a good job done perfectly well ..
@closed7234
@closed7234 3 жыл бұрын
ATC lady deserves a Big Tight Warm Hug
@SkyWanderer84
@SkyWanderer84 6 жыл бұрын
The VHHH ATC ia awesome
@ruatachhangte
@ruatachhangte 4 жыл бұрын
"Air China 428, expedite everything!"
@snapdragogon69
@snapdragogon69 4 жыл бұрын
"What do you mean everything?" - "EEEEVERYTHIIIIINNNNG!!!"
@ruatachhangte
@ruatachhangte 4 жыл бұрын
@@snapdragogon69*proceeds to go space shuttle status*
@neoberi2611
@neoberi2611 3 жыл бұрын
@@snapdragogon69 the ATC doesn't have tiiime for this mickey mouse bullshit
@TheWarnickthree
@TheWarnickthree 3 жыл бұрын
This one had the hair on the back of my neck standing on end as she started in with her commands to expedite his climb. Aviate, navigate, communicate. They forgot the communication part of that.
@thewolfofmalkara6203
@thewolfofmalkara6203 3 жыл бұрын
the parasite at 1:32 scared me shitless. ATC really had it cool while commanding the aircraft. respect
@rayharkins14
@rayharkins14 6 жыл бұрын
Very good controller, she is at the top of her game..
@VASAviation
@VASAviation 6 жыл бұрын
She was very quick.
@soneseo8459
@soneseo8459 5 жыл бұрын
Why every HK ATC female voices sounds so good and clear ?☺️
@israelzilberman
@israelzilberman 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing that so much is dependant on the simplest human weaknesses..
@curbyourshi1056
@curbyourshi1056 2 жыл бұрын
I would love a cockpit view of this.
@AkiraAkiyama
@AkiraAkiyama 6 жыл бұрын
After hearing the tape and watching the map, what's in mind is: Did they deleted a waypoint during preflight? It looks like they were flying DCT RUMSY. I don't know if Airbus can do the same or not but I think it is able to. On a Boeing, you can delete a SID waypoint on the LEGS page.
@VASAviation
@VASAviation 6 жыл бұрын
You can delete on an Airbus FMGS as well, of course. It's a good possibility.
@hxhuang9306
@hxhuang9306 6 жыл бұрын
The mountain peak: 1650 ft. Flight altitude: ~3650 ft. Edit: I'm not an aviation guy. I just found these data from some news reports.
@alancaro526
@alancaro526 6 жыл бұрын
HX Huang When the term flight level is used (often above 10,000 feet) it would be 16,000 I think
@FoxtrotGolfLima
@FoxtrotGolfLima 6 жыл бұрын
Based on a few FSX videos I've watched, I think FL160 means 16,000 feet. I don't ask why. The FL system seems weird to me.
@gruanger
@gruanger 6 жыл бұрын
They would not use FL160 for 16,000 feet. It only changes to flight level at 18,000 feet. This is where the FAA set it. At this altitude, everyone sets there altimeter to the same pressure levels and that way they are all flying at their designated heights relative to each other. If there flight level is FL200, they may not be at an actual altitude of 20,000 ft, but they will definitely be spaced 1000 ft from someone at FL210. That is my understanding anyway.
@terks43
@terks43 6 жыл бұрын
Gruanger transition level is different in different countries
@terks43
@terks43 6 жыл бұрын
As in Holland you can have as low as flight level 040. Roughly 4000ft.
@scottyflintstone
@scottyflintstone 4 жыл бұрын
Well done ATC
@harmoneyreilly4225
@harmoneyreilly4225 3 жыл бұрын
ATC controller was really amazing just amazing
@wizardmix
@wizardmix 6 жыл бұрын
This is why I try to always fly Cathay/Cathay Dragon in China.
@inh4855
@inh4855 6 жыл бұрын
Cathay超賣,服務差出曬名㗎喎……
@echoscorpion
@echoscorpion 6 жыл бұрын
oh mate, what could you do after Cathay down
@rickfeng4466
@rickfeng4466 6 жыл бұрын
Cathay is still MUCH better than Mainland airlines but not as good as its former self.
@kkho2198
@kkho2198 6 жыл бұрын
mate we are talking about safety
@herrpausr7008
@herrpausr7008 6 жыл бұрын
Did the pilots ever say "thank you" ???
@rubenvillanueva2753
@rubenvillanueva2753 6 жыл бұрын
HerrP AusR not when they get caught out doing stuff like this!
@kingraghavsahni
@kingraghavsahni 6 жыл бұрын
We are heading for a possible disaster but let me thank her firdt
@herrpausr7008
@herrpausr7008 6 жыл бұрын
Rs123 Then let me explain that for you: After they are back on track, they could have said that ...
@mattthegamerhongkong6948
@mattthegamerhongkong6948 6 жыл бұрын
As my understanding they only ever say "good day","Good night" or something like that
@flightlevel-flightsimulati2037
@flightlevel-flightsimulati2037 6 жыл бұрын
Oh God.. One of THOSE people...
@billybelli2078
@billybelli2078 3 жыл бұрын
An ATC in HKG once told me, there was a Chinese airline pilot who cudnt tell "red" from "west". He instructed the pilot to push back with red procedure (can't rmb exact wording, but sth like that) and the pilot didn't get it at all and asked more than once "west??" ...
@Captain271FD
@Captain271FD 5 жыл бұрын
"Oh wow! Pretty mountains.....here, hold my beer"
@chuchu36
@chuchu36 6 жыл бұрын
I doubt they can investigate the state-owned airline
@maroon9980
@maroon9980 6 жыл бұрын
Of course they can.
@MrSupasonics
@MrSupasonics 6 жыл бұрын
I'm a simple man, and when I saw [Real ATC] from youtube, I clicked.
@VASAviation
@VASAviation 6 жыл бұрын
Hope you liked it.
@davejones542
@davejones542 6 жыл бұрын
I am looking for a complex man
@mongobeetle
@mongobeetle 6 жыл бұрын
I think you mean a complicated man.
@mirilikolar
@mirilikolar 4 жыл бұрын
Air China now flying to RUMSY.......... ATC: don't give a damn where you're flying raise you're nose up EXPEDITE climbing before you hit the mountain.... that ATC lady was AMAZING keeping everyone so safe on that flight.
@hepickly9733
@hepickly9733 6 жыл бұрын
I maybe guess the flight crew lost situational awareness for some reason during SID. The PM did not found and correct the PF‘s or autopilot's error. Cockpit resource management may be a problem.
@PVflying
@PVflying 6 жыл бұрын
Who says girls aren't good at map reading?
@justbg
@justbg 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah my mother says that :/ I don't think that's true either.
@Nimeton-je7di
@Nimeton-je7di 6 жыл бұрын
I do
@r.c.collins6513
@r.c.collins6513 6 жыл бұрын
I think it's 'directions' most women have trouble with.
@matthewmcewen1
@matthewmcewen1 4 жыл бұрын
My boss
@TheJellyPlane
@TheJellyPlane 6 жыл бұрын
The Captain's name is Sum Ting Wong, his co-pilot is Ho Lee Phuc.
@artcore9886
@artcore9886 6 жыл бұрын
That joke is waaay over used. Please come up with "Sum Ting" original next time.
@TheJellyPlane
@TheJellyPlane 6 жыл бұрын
Do you have a problem with that?
@martynh5410
@martynh5410 6 жыл бұрын
He's talking about the flight engineer Mr. "Whey Tuh Lo"
@dirkhoekstra727
@dirkhoekstra727 6 жыл бұрын
That's lacist.
@FingerStyleMaste1994
@FingerStyleMaste1994 6 жыл бұрын
cantonese
@KathrynsWorldWildfireTracking
@KathrynsWorldWildfireTracking 2 жыл бұрын
She's a hero!
@Jinzo-dy3th
@Jinzo-dy3th 5 жыл бұрын
the pilots needed to open their eyes a little more.......nice save by that ATC
@JSmith777
@JSmith777 6 жыл бұрын
I like VHHH controllers.. flew by there a couple times.. They always give instructions no more than three items at a time.. (altitude, heading, expected STAR, runway in use, speed adjustment, etc) on the other side of the world.. they just give you like 10 items in one setting and expect you to repeat it word by word... we should learn something from VHHH
@orion789
@orion789 6 жыл бұрын
I agree. I do find the amount of data shoved from most ATC intimidating. Furthermore, these Hong Kong controllers were more discernible than many controllers for whom English is their first language.
@kkho2198
@kkho2198 6 жыл бұрын
until the current generation, english is a well-learnt (and official) language of Hong Kong. not exactly first language, but we do have high standards of it.
@BlackLabelSlushie
@BlackLabelSlushie 4 жыл бұрын
It strikes me that when my mother suffers even the tiniest inconvenience, she is 400 times more hysterical than an air-traffic controller who has only seconds to prevent a massacre
@dippledopple
@dippledopple 5 ай бұрын
Why are you comparing your mother to a random person? I mean we can all learn to be calm but there’s reasons why certain people aren’t fit for certain jobs
@polarisice3190
@polarisice3190 3 жыл бұрын
the lady atc controller has a soothing voice
@HunterShows
@HunterShows 5 жыл бұрын
Finally, something from around the world...
@Jopanaguiton
@Jopanaguiton 6 жыл бұрын
Ok that's it I was going to book Air China from KLAX to RPLL for my flight this week because they're really cheap. I think I'm sticking with Philippine Airlines.
@kkho2198
@kkho2198 6 жыл бұрын
dont do it. air china sucks.
@q.taylor2921
@q.taylor2921 6 жыл бұрын
Outstanding job by ATC! Calm, professional, clear. That pilot should face some discipline though.
@kkho2198
@kkho2198 6 жыл бұрын
best of Hong Kong.
@Pwhisperer
@Pwhisperer 6 жыл бұрын
Wow that is scary. I bet that controller about shit her pants when that jet turned toward the mountain.
@wildgurgs3614
@wildgurgs3614 6 жыл бұрын
I heard they were going to add a third airstrip here. Thoughts?
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