[REAL ATC] Lufthansa B748 Engine Failure at JFK | ATC GETS CONFUSED

[@VASAviation]

*EDIT* : Given the comments, I find useful to share this related video --> kzbin.info/www/bejne/e4ikpIRpptGXpZo So let me know your opinion. Would you declare an emergency in this situation? Would you declare it as a PAN-PAN as you have 3 more engines running? Would you continue without declaring neither MAYDAY nor PAN-PAN?

[@baley7]

VASAviation - maybe they shut down the engine as a precaution, since all else seemed ok there is no need to ask for priority handling.

[@Tyrope]

He could land safely on his own, could taxi safely on his own. Required no additional support from the ground crew / emergency equipment. I'd say he was perfectly fine flying onward. The engine failure report was legit in case another one died unexpectedly.

[@maxmustermann194]

not a pilot but from my perspective with 3 out of 4 engines running normal a single engine failure is not a big deal so no need to declare an emergency.

[@karlosbricks2413]

Well, the BA flight at KPHX you did a couple months ago, cancelled their mayday, as the 747 is certified to fly on just 3 engines, both these flights could probably have continued to their destination, but since the BA268 incident in 2005, most carriers do not fly quad jets on 3 engines onwards on their journey and almost always have the policy to be the plane must land. I feel not declaring a mayday is fine, their flying in a certified state and if the shut down was only precautionary, then they don't really have any problems at all, they all seemed to handle it professionally, but can completely understand ATC's confusion on the matter as it is unusual to have that situation.

[@LisaMichele]

I thought the ATC sounded a little fresh. The pilots were very professional and clear about the situation... was the 'tone' really necessary from ATC?

[@MalcolmCooks]

lufthansa pilot: permission to go outside the aircraft and kick the engine so it begins working?

[@tobiasr.6903]

That refers to another video where a german pilot had left the plane to close a door?

[@CanadianxGirl87]

Tobias R. yup it is

[@nickdaniels4385]

LOL I immediately thought of the door incident LOL! Good one.

[@volante8657]

@@CanadianxGirl87at least for A340, there is 2 flights of stairs from the cockpit directly to the front landing gear without getting through the cabin, so that is absolutely possible

[@maitrikpatel6937]

They are German so probably use WD-40 and it’d be back running fine

[@drunk3n_m0nk12]

"Lufthansa 401, we just lost a wing. Everything is still okay. No need to declare emergency."

[@Owlventure_Aviation]

it’s a B747....it still has 3 engines to fly

[@rudyossanchez]

@@Owlventure_Aviation that's the queen for you .

[@VELIkiq8]

Youve got a hole in your left wing!!!

[@theduckscp]

Tis but a scratch.

[@solomon6082]

Stay calm fly but EVERYONE ELSE NEEDS TO HEAR YOU PLAY LUCADRIS - MOVE BISH OVER THE RADIO WAVES

[@ariapro7]

The ATC absolutely passed the vibe check

[@youtubemodsaresnowflakelef7692]

I thought he was being a sarcastic, condescending rear orifice. But that's just me.

[@nicojones4272]

Absolutely was trained by/worked with Kennedy Steve and learned well lol

[@cooperstukel5176]

You know the guy just didn’t want to fill out the paperwork.

[@skippynj1979]

Cooper Stukel still going to be paperwork no matter what

[@pilotandy_com]

I agree Steven, if you have a dead engine, there's paperwork.

[@cooperstukel5176]

Steven Richardson I mean there is a lot less.

[@skippynj1979]

Cooper Stukel in America would have to fill out the same form whether I declared an emergency or not.. plus the phone cal with the chief pilot no matter what.

[@cooperstukel5176]

Steven Richardson Incorrect, I have declared an emergency, and I have alerted Atc of a failure such as an alternator failure and they came back and asked if it was an emergency and I said no, it’s different. When we landed there was no paperwork, defiantly “wasn’t the same.”

[@alexmobil7463]

These two pilots are real professionals cool and well educated they are in the position to evaluate and handle the Situation in the way they ve learned to do!

[@LuckyX619]

One engine failure in 747 doesn’t count in emergency

[@Anno_Nymouse]

These are Germans. We wouldn't expect less of them here in Germany 😂

[@Nami]

@@Anno_Nymouse At least until they undersell a problem and get dozens of people killed because they could've landed earlier and opted not to.

[@moebaker9359]

No they're not. The attitude they gave to the ATC was quite unprofessional and also irresponsible landing a plane with engine failure with potential risk of something that could have happened. So assistance in this case is quite common. Also the pilots English was just horrible

[@Yvlkr]

@@moebaker9359dafuq? If the English was so bad why no one asked him to recall? It‘s an accent and the German accent is kind of hard, but the cleanest way anyone can understand English, accent-wise. English and German are both West-Germanic languages, it‘s kinda almost the same language in many different ways.

[@duckurie59]

That "Aight" was the most appropriate response at something like that.

[@Gabriel-ki3ht]

at 1:27 the lufthansa pilot says ,,ausgezeichnet" which means excellent for those of you who were curious

[@Strobel09]

Doesn't sound like one of the DLH pilots to me. I guess it's another pilot on frequency jumping in there.

[@caracal2455]

To me, it sounded like that voice had an accent, so I would assume, it was not the Lufthansa pilot, but another (propably an American) pilot who wanted to show his German skills :D

[@angb8182]

Caracal im a native german speaker and i heard absolutely no accent whatsoever lol

[@thisismetoday]

@@angb8182 Yeah me neither, but also not confident it was the German pilot speaking. It remains a mystery. Maybe it was his copilot 🤔

[@AudieHolland]

Thanks for clearing that one up. I just assumed it was unintelligible chatter. Then I listened again and it was German and now I heard it perfectly!

[@canadianplanespotter]

Big Shaq the Lufthansa pilot: 2+2 is 4, minus 1 that's 3 PAN-PAN

[@09shadowjet]

Canadian Plane Spotter HAHAHAHAHA

[@MrDumile]

Canadian Plane Spotter Lol 😂

[@julianbroker581]

THIS MADE MY DAY HAHAHA

[@rachmaninow6606]

Clever

[@sillygoose1003]

best comment award goes to........

[@commodore665]

I love how calm the German pilot sounds ,

[@Stewi1014]

" Negative, No, we have an engine failure but not an emergency... Otherwise we would have called you! " So perfectly German. As an Australian working in Europe for a company with German owners, I very much understand the international perceptive on German literalness, but I've also come to fully accept it and honestly really like it. They never declared an emergency, they have an engine failure, they know exactly how to handle it and there's no real problem. Absolutely amazing. Props to the crew.

[@johnsebaton2526]

German? Oh man I was thinking this guy sounded Indian 🤣

[@commodore665]

@@johnsebaton2526

[@AgniFirePunch]

​@@johnsebaton2526because Germans and Indians are both Aryans

[@vipersuphere]

oooooooh @@AgniFirePunch

[@MrGilRoland]

This remembers me of a joke we have hear in Italy. It goes like this: During a flight, all of a sudden the passengers hear a loud BANG. After a short time a voice comes out of the internal speakers: "Good morning, this is your captain speaking. If you look out of the right window, you can see some smoke coming out of the right engine. The engine is gone but there is no need to be worried, this aircraft can fly with one engine, no problem". After a while, a second BANG, this time even louder is heard, this time from the left side of the plane. The voice of the captain, extremely confident comes out from the speakers again: "This is the captain speaking. If you look out of the left window this time, you will notice some smoke coming out of the left engine. The engine is gone, but there is no need to be worried, this aircraft can fly without engines, no problem". After a short time a third loud BANG is heard by the passengers. Sure enough captain's voice comes out from the speakers: "Hello, this is a recorded message from your captain. If you look out of the window and see a parachute deploying, it's your captain waiving goodbye!".

[@xshelwynx]

Hehe... I thought the joke would be a little bit more morbid. Bang heard from the cockpit and the message was prerecorded for a different reason...

[@EM.1]

I’m Italian American 3rd gen, and I know the joke well my parents told me the joke every time we were forced to go back to Italy for far relatives deaths bureaucracy, I tell it to my work colleagues every time we get an Alitalia flight. And the joke it’s about Alitalia. I used to fly for work, on regional flights or NAFTA Nations, with Air Canada or American Airlines, but after a promotion as supervisor I fly worldwide, usually my company choose Lufthansa, for out of USA flights towards Europe, Asia, etc...

[@yenh1144]

Love it!

[@youtubemodsaresnowflakelef7692]

Sounds like the Captain was actually Captain Francesco Schettino (Costa Concordia "boat" Captain).

[@fahadfaisal7855]

@@youtubemodsaresnowflakelef7692 ... it's a joke! Get it?

[@lennongreen71]

Engine failure..., we’ve got three more! 🤷🏽‍♂️ 😅

[@alexanderpas]

That specific plane is rated to fly with just 3 engines.

[@cymbala6208]

Yeeha! Thanks for this great video... I just love this innocent ' not even that ' and then imagining the expressions on the faces of pilot and atc...

[@danvaldivia6155]

ATC: Emergency equipment is in standby... LA748: Nah we are good bruh it's just an engine failure.. ATC: ... ATC: You need assistance? LA748: Nah fam, we land planes without engines on the daily grind

[@SimisioLP]

How did you come up with this "LA748" - Lufthansa would be LH or DLH but why LA :D

[@paingberg]

@@SimisioLP actually LA is LATAM Chile not Lufthansa

[@SimisioLP]

@@paingberg I know. Thats why I wrote DLH/LH for Lufthansa

[@firefly4f4]

I actually had to look at the screen to convince myself that American 4 wasn't just ATC talking to himself

[@CrispyTheDuck]

1:27 is "Ausgezeichnet!" , meaning "excellent"

[@majorwinters8333]

yeah, loved that :) and the FO (who I guess was talking at the beginning) was clearly an Austrian guy :D i guess vienna or in that area :)

[@cymbala6208]

Thank you, wondered what this was...

[@louismalliet7386]

CrispyTheDuck I

[@chuckstelzn5856]

Mr Burns 😂👍

[@Acampina]

Ausgezeichnet made my day

[@09shadowjet]

Boeing 777 pilot with an engine failure: We’re declaring an emergency, we have an engine failure, requesting to land at the nearest suitable airport. Boeing 747 pilot also with an engine failure: Aww that’s cute.

[@davidhoffman1278]

09shadowjet , With ETOP rules I believe that the B777 has a 2 to 3 hour window to get to a suitable airport.

[@09shadowjet]

David Hoffman 5.5 hours, Boeing 777 is ETOPS 330 certified.

[@TheKartoffel101]

737 Max: ...

[@pendelbembel]

B-52 pilot with an engine failure: What is engine failure?

[@5Andysalive]

@@pendelbembel Ask a Space Shuttle pilot.

[@maxmustermann194]

The convo cracked me up quite a bit in between lol. Reminds me of my visits to doctors where the nurse would be like "Let me check your blood while we are at it." - "I'm fine ma'am..." - "You sure? But let's check tho...?" - "NEGATIVE, I'M FINE!" :D

[@TakeDeadAim]

The pilot is correct. A single engine failure on a light 74 is NOT an emergency. He is NOT, NOT, NOT compelled to declare an emergency for a single engine out in this case. An emergency declaration is at the discretion of the Capt under all circumstances. I'll also tell you that there have probably been a good number of 4 holers who have shut down an engine and never even made an announcement to either ATC or Pax(if any) through the years. Not a big deal...probably a more "seasoned" Capt in this case...

[@victoru.2743]

I concur, not an emergency, urgency maybe yes. By the way, not only the pilots can declare an emergency: Dispatch, Company Representatives, and ATC can declare an emergency for them ( humansystems.arc.nasa.gov/flightcognition/Publications/non_EAS/Declaring_An_Emergency.pdf ) . In a lot of videos in this channel you can see how atc asks for fuel and souls although the pilots didn't declare an emergency.

[@lolvks]

I'm pretty sure that a 747 could fly all the way to Germany with just 3 engines provided the airline had authorization and the crews are trained. A 747 with 1 engine shut down is not an emergency at all.

[@Statuquo]

It's why you have pan pan pan for minor issues that is not causing the plane to be unflightable as his standar configuration - but still provide you with direct routes, focus of ATC, priority on landing, and for other airplanes - a check of runway after your landing to prevent fluid leak or parts of planes that coud gone off on the touchdown on landing !

[@Statuquo]

A problem is single issue that could be solve // a crash is a multiple of problems that are occuring in a lap of time that end to the total failure of the airplane.

[@TakeDeadAim]

A light 748 could fly a LONG way with two(assuming one on each side) not even needing climb power to sustain straight and level flight. Now, if it were an asymmetrical thrust issue that would be different but still very manageable.

[@beeeneee]

Why declare an emergency in a 747 when you could easily cross the atlantic with only three engines running...

[@davidhoffman1278]

beeeneee , 99.99% of the time an engine shut down results in either a PAN-PAN-PAN or an Emergency declaration. The controller was cocked and locked for one of those. This 401 deciding to just come on in with an advisory confused him.

[@adamw.8579]

Especially if this was isolated problem - oil press, overheat or vibration issue.

[@Clothahump1]

Love the comment in German at 1:28 - "Ausgezeichnet" (Outstanding)

[@SohnoZ]

ATC: "Problem?" Pilot: "Nope, just an engine failure" ATC: "Oh yeah, no, it's alright. Either way, you're gonna get in in a timely manner" Pilot: (After readback in the background, probably laughing about the comment) "Augezeichnet" (ger. "excellent", quoting Simpsons) lmao! (still laughing) Those guys (both pilot and ATC) handled that situation delightfully... While any usual passenger would probably be shitting their pants.

[@jamesgordon7661]

Great video as always! the controllers reaction is hilarious :D

[@soupfork2105]

Engine failure? Hah. ‘Tis but a scratch. I’ve had worse. Barely a fleshwound.

[@SuperDirtyLion]

per the .65 not only the pilot can declare an emergency but facility personnel (ATC) or the officials responsible for the operation of the aircraft can also declare an emergency for an aircraft. While ATC are very well trained at separating aircraft, not all are informed of every aicraft's capabilities and if a less exerienced controller was in position at the time, they could have declared an emergency for him. Regardless if an aircraft has an engine out, they should recieve priority handling.

[@FluppiLP]

You shouldn't forget that pilots only have such an event once in their whole career. Lots of them don't have to declare an emergency at all in their life. So whether they declare an emergency is entirely their training, their assessment and their company procedure. If in their training BAW pilots are trained to declare an emergency no matter what then that's what they do. Either DLH doesn't require anyone to declare an emergency in case of an engine failure on a 4 engined aircraft or in one of their simulator sessions the pilots did it without declaring an emergency or the pilots just assessed the situation and thought: We don't have a big problem here. The DLH flight probably was a lot lighter than the BAW flight and that's why the pilots didn't feel like it was a big issue. I can only guess but I don't see that any pilot did something wrong in this case.

[@redshirt49]

Standard Lufthansa procedure. Single engine failure with all other systems functioning normally is not considered an emergency. Protocol does state that they need to route to nearest available airport for a full maintenance check-up, which is what they did. Emergency should only be declared if imminent danger to the plane is suspected or evident. Completely by the book by this guy.

[@mohamedrh4093]

daily dose of the internet always leads me to the good stuff

[@planewire2153]

Sometimes if the pilot is hesitant atc will declare an emergency for you even if you don't want to, even if the aircraft can fly with three engines it's ok to declare an emergency in that situation to get on the ground as quickly as possible

[@emoluv54865]

Legend has it that a Lufthansa Captain once slapped the gear out of its bay when it refused to go down.

[@tbhightower9844]

Kapitän Pruss: we have a lightning strike, but no emergency Lakehurst Naval Station: lightning? but you have no emergency? Kapitän Pruss: correct, small fire now but no emergency Lakehurst Naval Station: oh! u have a fire but no emergency Kapitän Pruss: no emergency, all good Lakehurst Naval Station: how about a wind check, yes? Kapitän Pruss: no, not even that Lakehurst Naval Station: we'll roll emergency equipment anyway Kapitän Pruss: no, we don't need it actually Lakehurst Naval Station: ok, emergency equipment canceled Kapitän Pruss:Ausgezeichnet!

[@sourabhpatil2965]

Doctor: You just lost a kidney and you say you are fine!

[@BammerD]

"No, ve are not an emergency. Klaus has stepped out onto the wing to resolve the situation."

[@sapede]

Aw, the Germans. Give them just enough resources and they take you the moon. Say to them a joke and be ready to explain it and what you really meant for the next 10 minutes.

[@andrewsmall6568]

Urrghhh. Totally agree that 3 engine in a 747 - IF you have established the cause of the engine failure - is not an emergency, but by not calling an emergency you put doubt into all the other actors in the scenario. You put everyone else into a mindset of... "errr what should i do here". An emergency is a well drilled procedure, people can run it backwards. By NOT calling an emergency AND declaring a major defect causes more anxiety to the rest of system. In short i would call an emergency and be done with it.

[@shreddder999]

Now if he's down to one, THAT can be a problem!

[@starwarzchik112]

Pan pan exists!!

[@imdefinitelynotkyle]

That first ATC was so cute and pure aaaaaaaaah I love that guy

[@Owen_loves_Butters]

A 747 can fly safely on two engines, so he even had a spare!

[@mr.shameless1886]

i like the responce the ATC gave for the engine failure guy just that confused yet reassured "Aight... very well"

[@florianz3]

This must be the nicest JFk Controller ever..

[@photoholics]

I think because he informed about an engine failure he also should have declared a PAN-PAN. So, everything would have been fine, no confusion, no emergency. Something similiar happend to a flight from Zurich to Singapore, where the pilots where forced to shut down 1 of 4 engines due to high oil temperature shortly after departure. No emergency, no need to become nervous, just stayed calm. However, the declared a PAN-PAN and took the needed steps for flying back. With all their calmness they ate some swiss chocolate during this process. ;-) The point is: because they declared a PAN-PAN no confusion took place.

[@lyaneris]

Often times it goes like this: 1/4 controlled (overheat etc) close to ground = panpan 1/4 uncontained/severe damage close to ground = mayday 1/4 severe in cruise =panpan 1/4 controlled in cruise = diversion (For two engines go up one level each)

[@jacktattersall9457]

There was a case several years ago where a British Airways B747 lost one engine after takeoff from LAX and continued its flight to the UK, to the shock of Air Traffic Control and pissing the FAA off. It prompted a jurisdictional incident as that is illegal under FAA regulations, but the UK CAA thinks its perfectly chill thing to do.

[@CaptainLeo]

ATC probably has unlimited coffee, compared to the pilots. 😂

[@LS-Moto]

JFK sounds kinda pissy that Lufthansa didn't declare an emergency.

[@luso7916]

It's pretty annoying how passive aggressive ATC gets

[@JamesGJGSUSHI]

Communication, communication, communication! Question: if the controller thought the aircraft was an emergency, why didn't he get souls and fuel?

[@jayyyzeee6409]

Lufthansa Pilot: "'Tis but a scratch. It's just a flesh wound."

[@AltschauerbergMafia_]

Thats why i rely only on Lufthansa or the Lufthansa Group as an Aircarrier... So much professionalism in the cockpit and calmness. You wont find that anywhere else!

[@jayyyzeee6409]

"The plane is falling apart, but it's not an emergency, damn you!"

[@CookiePepper]

1 engine failure of 747 is not an emergency is manufacture's specification. It could continue flight but just better to land.

[@2snowgirl520]

My life feel like a constant Pan-Pan.

[@perfsvn]

Legend has it the flight would've continued to Frankfurt had the captain not forgotten his wife's anniversary present at the gate. The engine failure was just an excuse.

[@danielaramburo7648]

Pilot: requesting landing. Plane has lost both engines, we have a fire onboard. Not an emergency.

[@wassolldasalles8204]

When one from four engines has failure this is NOT an emergency. Is right so.

[@freddy4672]

Here’s to the ATCs! They’ve got to get all these Airplanes up and down and safely across the runways and keep them from bumping into each other and all his majesty himself has to do is worry about his one little plane. Gads an ATC has to manage 100s if not 1O00s every day. Here’s to the handsome and fearsome ATCs!!!

[@SublimeHydro]

Apparently this guy ate his wheaties that morning , lost an engine and remained calm

[@mparryuk52]

The pilots handled this perfectly, surprisingly ATC seemed a little unprofessional at that very moment, changing tones was unnecessary.

[@chrissim4386]

WEll it might be a bit confusing if a pilot tells you: Engine failure but no emergency, becasue most of the time it is an emergency. Because most planes just have 2 and if you lose one, it´s kinda bad. He maybe did not realize it´s a 747 with 4 at first... And hey: Better you declare 1 Emergency too much than 1 too less^^

[@NorthernUtahDashcam]

mparryuk52 I agree. Just stay professional and done have an attitude.

[@mparryuk52]

Northern Utah Dashcam Amen to that, stay safe out there and enjoy aviation to the full :)

[@bra1nstr]

Yeah I agree man, the changing of tone was a little annoying and felt condescending when it carried through to his later instructions.

[@Mateyhv1]

BRAINYT, yes the tone was somewhat sarcastic. Liked the "not even that" from the german pilot!😃

[@douggebhardt8796]

I can see perfectly why they didn't declare but in the U.S. you can have it declared for you.

[@iconi1355]

ich seh kein problem, nur die effiziente Nutzung vorliegender Ressourcen

[@nenblom]

I’m wondering if the crew didn’t declare an emergency since the 747 has four engines and they lost one. They still had 3 functioning engines. I might be wrong but that’s my guess.

[@tomhejda6450]

Well, thr company very likely did not declare emergency because (1) no policies required it (be it IACO, FAA, company or whoever's regulations) and (2) they did not consider the situation any dangerous.

[@deep.space.12]

How to interpret the lines in the background of the video? For example, I have a hard time identifying where the airport is.

[@VASAviation]

I will do a video explaining all these new lines for those who don't know about radar screens.

[@deep.space.12]

Thanks you!

[@asteroidsonsteroids271]

I look forward to this too. Also, a short overview of the proper radio procedures, i.e. how is it supposed to be done. And maybe what some common but less known acronyms and terms are like ILS, "information CHARLIE," what the localizer is, etc.

[@jasoncentore1830]

That's my Aircraft from JFK-FRA in March 2022, Upper Deck Business Class

[@AddyRyan66]

These convos cracked me up😂😂😂😂

[@yung-megafone]

Holy shit this is real!? That makes this 10 times better 😂😂😂😂

[@yenh1144]

As a non pilot, my expertise (as in you know, Google) tells me I would inform ATC but would not declare a May Day or Pan Pan 😂

[@lyaneris]

Same, for all we know the engine might have overheated/ shut down as a precautionary measure.

[@U20101954]

one engine failed. A350/A330/B777: emergency; B747 series: meh we still have 3

[@AugustusTitus]

B748: "Hey, we'll call you back and declare when we lose another one." 50,000 lbs of thrust per engine and the B747 wants to *fly*.

[@TheKartoffel101]

The guy from JFK sounds so happy that he dont hae to do all that paper work :D

[@gomphrena-beautifulflower-8043]

Oh, now I see why the Queen was retired! To put a stop to the arguments! PIC: We've lost an engine, but not declaring. ATC: Say what?? PIC: We're not declaring an emergency! ATC: Wait, what?! You lost an engine and you got no emergency?! PIC: Affirmative. ATC: You got yourself an emergency, sir! PIC: No, we don't. She can fly perfectly well with 3 engines. ATC: Not on my watch. SUPE! PIC: Oh, for... ATC: Cap, you bring her in this instant! PIC: I'll do no such thing! ATC: Will too! PIC: Will not! ATC: I got a number for you to call! PIC: Do not! ATC: Do too! SUPE! PIC: Oh, for.,..y'know what? I'm bringing her in to STAY! I'm tired of you guys telling me I can't fly with 3 without declaring! ATC: You wouldn't dare. PIC: Would too! ATC: Would not! ...and so you see, ladies and gentlemen, the Queen of the Skies was retired and rests in her hangars to live out the rest of her life. Some say you can still see the Airport Fire Service out there on the runways, looking for the emergency that wasn't...and the beautiful 747 sits back and takes it easy, smug that she knows she can do the job on 3 or 2 when asked of her. At the end of the day, she knows her passengers would rather her be a fuel hog than a "Gimli glider," any day of the week! (Many thanks to our Pilots, ATC, mechanics, EMS and Catastrophe Services, and all other airport personnel who keep us going. No people were harmed in the making of this comment (and no feelings were hurt, I hope!)!

[@wildgurgs3614]

gomphrena that's 36-karat gold right there And yes I know pure 100% gold is 24-karat That's how good that comment is

[@kd5nrh]

PIC: You know what, I'm gonna show you up close and personal how well she handles with one down. ATC: Negative Ghostrider, the pattern is full PIC: OK, you wanted me to declare, your airport is mine now.

[@wildgurgs3614]

Joe Bramblett "PIC: You know what, I'm gonna show you up close...how well she handles....you wanted me to declare, your airport is mine now." Boi that's gotta be 48-karat gold! The shortened version obviously not LOL

[@Dfpijgyt564s65sgt]

gomphrena you got too much time on your hands

[@gomphrena-beautifulflower-8043]

Al Borland • You are absolutely right. Warning to any and all interested parties: Do not retire. If you must, stay away from these addictive aviation KZbin videos, or you might become a groupie like me! Lol

[@iflyg4]

1 engine failure is not an emergency on a 747. In fact, they can, per Capt’s prerogative, continue to destination.

[@VASAviation]

What if it is a fire?

[@iflyg4]

VASAviation - In the airline world, an engine failure isn’t an emergency in a 4 engine aircraft. An engine fire is different and IS an emergency but it’s classified differently than a failure. It’s in a completely different section of the checklist and it’ll tell you whether to divert to nearest suitable. But it’s a good point, different “engine failures” can demand an emergency or not. I was simply talking about the posted video and reference to a simple engine failure.

[@sourabhpatil7309]

After landing: Captain- Ohh shit this was a real aircraft. I thought it was a simulator.

[@Antonio-lt1sp]

This bird can climb at takeoff with just 3 engines. At landing, after crossing the pond, it would be much lighter due to fuel consumption. So no worries at all.

[@DaveHulick]

This aircraft did not cross the Atlantic, it was returning to JFK after taking off from JFK and experiencing an engine failure during climb.

[@adamw.8579]

One engine dead on B747 is not big deal, for that event no emergency is necessary, just normal approach and landing. Eventually PAN, but while no other problems exists it was no hurry.

[@youtubemodsaresnowflakelef7692]

two engines dead wouldn't be a big deal either, especially if they're not overloaded/heavy, which they weren't. Could've still even maintained stable flight or even climb...

[@quenchize]

It would depend on exactly how the engine failed. If the fan disk burst you should probably declare. If it starts to run a bit hot and you shut it down as a precaution meh. Guess what? only the pilots are in possession of full information about the exact mode of the failure. So if they say it is not an urgent situation it isn't. Declaring MAYDAY is just sick. MAYDAY means immediate threat to life. Remember these are germans probably handler didn't write JET-A clearly on the manifest for that tank so they shut the engine down as a precaution :-D

[@rubicon10rubicon36]

I have a good friend of mine who is 380 captain and he told me that they receive training so as not to declare an emergency when they lose an engine, they even continue climbing and cruising without deviating. 😣

[@VASAviation]

Engine failure on a 4 engine aircraft is no big deal.

[@rubicon10rubicon36]

@@VASAviation That's exactly what I tried to say, thank you.

[@whyyuna69]

he sounds like Kennedy Steve

[@adityabadami]

Kenneth Liou i swear

[@Philip-kc2et]

🤣

[@gazzaboo8461]

We don't care if it's not an emergency, we're sending all the emergency vehicles, and you'll darn well like it!!!

[@lw679]

They ask you how you are, and you just have to say you're fine.

[@ademduru5565]

The guy wanted to get his luggage so this is why he said that💀

[@ParadiesBuilders]

hahaha, if I am the controller, I will get confused too... 😂😂😂 engine failure but not an emergency 😂😂😂

[@CRTLALTBACKSPACE]

Lufthansa 401, we just had a rapid depressurization and lost 5 passengers. We are fine and are not declaring an emergency.

[@乒乒乓乓-l7y]

"nah ain't nothing to worry about"

[@David-zy1jw]

this reminds me of a crash around JFK because the pilot mistaken Emergency with Priority, obviously English is not their first language, the tower refused their request, they crashed

[@vikkimcdonough6153]

AVA052 in January 1990, 707, ran out of fuel after multiple delays en route and one missed approach at JFK.

[@julians9362]

was that an 'Ausgezeichnet' at 1:28 :D ?

[@otcubaba]

the lufthansa pilot had no fucks to give left that day

[@thisismetoday]

1:28 "Ausgezeichnet" (which means "Splendid" in German)

[@Fermifire]

ATC I just lost both wings but it's not an emergency. 😂😂

[@adamthomas1222]

You can't beat a 4 engine aircraft for redundancy, even with etops

[@roykliffen9674]

B-52? Eight engines?

[@LeonardoVibes]

1:27 "Ausgezeichnet" _(excellent)_ sounded sarcastic

[@shreddder999]

_Cause if your check engine light comes on, it's game over!_

[@HulaLuau]

Real lufthansa grindset

[@delta.juliett]

That is exactly what is called german efficiency. :D

[@beny_playz9854]

Already knew you WAYYYY before Dalily Dose of Internet!

[@johnmcauliffe8824]

After watching CGP Grey's video I understand what they are talking about lol

[@backfromcuba]

bet that pilot wished he'd never mentioned it :p

[@xxbearrockxx]

Who else came here from daily dose of internet?

[@jasoncentore1830]

That's what is great about the 747, ATC: Emergency? LH401 no emergency here.

[@CrazyForCooCooPuffs]

The ignorance in the comments on a video such as this always is hard to read.

[@snellejopva]

Please do the near-crash on Schiphol.

[@douglas2lee929]

ATTN VAS: Red text on black is very difficult to read. Carry on.

[@gesunderpsychopath8569]

Lufthansa Pilot to ATC Tower, we've lost the airplane including all passengers, but we're not an emergency. Since me and my copilot have parachutes, we'd like to land on Runway 23R. Please Confirm. 😂

[@Sean-me4fv]

Jerry Seinfeld working in ATC for the day? 😂

[@Mudcreekmedia]

Lufthansa pilots are amazing