REAL COST of 958 Porsche Cayenne Maintenance?! (2.5 Year Re-Cap)

[@vonbraun8051]

One thing I've learned having owned a Porsche is that Porsche is far more reliable than people think. So well built and quality all around. Because of the complex engineering I wouldn't say they are in the same reliability of Toyotas but the truth is Porsche are very reliable cars. I'd also add that these days all cars are expensive to repair. I know people who've had Subaru and Mazda who got stuck with repairs over $5,000 each (head gasket and turbo stuff).

[@adaptableamy4744]

Agreed 100% . My cayenne has been the best car over the last 10 years and it's a diesel. I've had Mercedes and BMW that I wanted to drive into the service dept and leave it permanently for the dealers to keep. When Clark Howard lists Porsche as the #1 most reliable Luxury vehicle it means something for sure.

[@hansturpyn5455]

I have 2 cayennes 4.2l V8 diesel TDI now for almost 3 years and i spend like 1/3th on them both of wat this man spend on this single cayenne. Both vehicles are so reliable, only cost are the intervall oil changes. My tyres are "superia" summertire and they cost 400usd for all 4 of them. Traction is great.

[@Bmw-Hk]

@@hansturpyn5455 did you go to China to buy the tires for that kind of money?

[@spacewizard69]

@@hansturpyn5455 400usd for all 4 tires ? you got some Chinese tires you should get something like Micheline they gone last for a long time

[@PeugeotRocket]

​​​​@@hansturpyn5455Those are some serious budget tires.. No offense, but if you can't afford are unwilling to spend money on good tires, I don't think a Porsche is the car for you...

[@mikesteenbeke]

One of the best videos out there. Great work! Here are some actual experiences and costs. 2018 Cayenne Turbo. 60800 miles. BUYER BEWARE: 60,000 miles is where it all begins. THE COSTS ARE A LOT HIGHER THAN STATED! Coolant leak: Porsche runs the coolant lines between the engine and the intake manifold. (clearly designed by Jaguar and not a Porsche engineer) He is correct on the hours being 10. The Dealership charges $300/hr, therefore Labor alone is $3000. Actual costs with parts is approx.: $ 3700. BTW: the Engine is Aluminum. Overheating can destroy the engine. NEXT: STRUTS: They go around 60,000 miles. remanufactured are $1300 Each, OEM Bilsteins are more. Labor 2 hours per side @$300/labor=$600 a side. AND you should replace both if one fails. Total costs per pair $4000! When your Coolant lines fail prepare to inspect your radiator (less common) because it uses the similar plastic material, I'm just unlucky I guess. Parts $600 plus 2-3hr labor. 60,000 mile Check up, oil, plugs, brake fluids, inspection; $1200. The fuel injectors should be on the list those are another $4000 ( a common issue) In short $3700 Coolant pipes, Struts $3800/pair (front only) Radiator $1300, 60,000 mile Check up $1200, fuel injectors $4000. $14,000 are my repair costs at 60800 miles.... These are actual costs and it all came about at the same time.

[@mydadvice]

Appreciate the detailed info! Thank you!

[@jitterspec]

Bet you don't complain when you get into the thottle!

[@omaraceves1281]

This is one of the best video formats I've seen, thank you

[@jitterspec]

I owned 4 Porsche, latest is 2016 cayenne. I DIY and frankly the only way I can justify driving Porsche. I love the comparison between minivan and this. With DIY, not much difference. I may be crazy for saying this but Porsche is not only a pleasure to drive but it's more fun to work on.

[@mrc79]

How much did you pay and what do you spend on average per year ?

[@jitterspec]

@@mrc79 $30k with 30k miles. Happy hunting!

[@Oldguynotbald]

Found a hack that works well for the wiper blades. Purchase a generic pair of the proper length, and just pull out the rubber wiper part, remove the rubber blade from the Porsche holder, with some persuasion, it will come out and put the new one in. Another thing I learned here on KZbin that worked, for the transfer case, is I changed the transfer case fluid 3 times and put 100 miles between each change. I used cheaper fluid for the first 2, it cleaned everything up. Then the last one I used the recommended RAVENOL J1C1125 Transfer Case Fluid. Problem GONE!!

[@standingstonezseanroberts292]

Excellent presentation - left out the cost of brakes - pretty expensive - But worth it!

[@davidnyo7614]

I almost bought that CPO Cayenne. Not a run of the mill color and had the Trailer Hitch. Good video. I ended up with a 2014 CPO shipped up here to Upstate New York from Bluegrass in Louisville.

[@JonathanOrsborne]

I’m 43 and have had a fascination with European cars since before getting my license at 16. The biggest reason for never getting one was the horror stories from people that never owned one. I think it’s time and the Cayenne is what I have my eye on.

[@ThatCaymanGuy]

Its all about maintenance, like most things in life. My Cayman is almost 20 years old and its never left me stranded and I've taken it through deserts, over mountains, through snow and its never let me down but i do all the maintenance myself and i make sure its running like a top.

[@Mrwinecontreras]

@@ThatCaymanGuythanks for this. I’m looking into getting a cayenne myself!! Maintenance it’s the key !!!

[@ThatCaymanGuy]

@@Mrwinecontreras i was leaning towards the Macan but my wife is thinks i should get a Cayenne as my daily. i want that Porsche feeling everyday!

[@kjusn]

My dad owns a Cayenne Diesel. Has done ~15k miles since he bought it (~160k now). Went on couple trips across Europe, during that time, he only spent $100 on repairs (minus oil changes, brakes etc.). I don't think there has ever been a car he has been more satisfied with. The fuel economy is great as well, on par with my, much lighter, Audi A5 3.0 TDI.

[@jeffferg8498]

A very good thorough analysis of ownership costs! Well done, brother.

[@talosiv4927]

Brilliant! Thank you so much for this in depth analysis! I've owned several Porsches over the years, and have never felt that they were any more maintenance-intensive than any other car. Sure parts are often more, but in day to day driving, I've not had any regrets. And the driving experience, sublime!. I was particularly interested in your vid here because I too bought a used Cayenne (in my case a 2013 S) about a year ago. Coindidentally, it is the same color combo as yours. It has only been a year, but so far zero grief of any kind. I too had read about the transfer case being a weak point, so I've proactivity changed fluid, and will continue to do so frequently. Hopefully that will stave off "failure".

[@adaptableamy4744]

I have the 2013 Diesel and I love it. It has been the most affordable luxury car I have ever owned I will not get rid of it. I was tempted to trade it for a 2024 land cruiser, but just couldn't do it because the Cayenne out tows Land Cruiser, Tacoma, and Jeeps, etc. We are turning it in to an Overland vehicle since it's reached 10 years to give it a refresh!!

[@CCRSCCA]

Thanks!! I've been looking at the Cayenne, X5, etc SUVs. Renting one this weekend from Turo to see how I like it. Was set on a S5 Sportback, then rented it. Too low for me for a daily.

[@spacewizard69]

get a Cayenne but a V8 one they are fun to drive very comfortable and I got 23.2 mpg with a Cayenne S V8 4.8 and fun to go offroad

[@kriskringle3164]

I have 200K miles on my Cayenne, never did the transfer case. Shifting is always clunky on a super cold minus 10 degree or colder start, just let it warm up 10 minutes before you start.

[@earlj3638]

Any major maintenance issues?

[@LG-yy2up]

Great job with video.. the transfer case scares me away from buying a 2012 GTS,, I'm gonna find out if previous owner had it done under warranty..

[@gijshahn4497]

Finally been looking for this video of expenses for this rather great car. Thank you!

[@DontComeToMyHouse]

Is the replacement transfer case an updated part that is not as prone to failure or is it just getting replaced with the same design?

[@zh7205]

My 2016 base cayenne has 100k miles on it and nothing major could break, btw transfer case is very likely fixable by changing the oil and I DIY cost me 15 dollar hahaha. Anyone trying to buy one go for the 3.6 base model it's solid.

[@megaman4201]

Definitely not all the transfer cases were replaced under warranty... Just replaced mine last week myself @ 88k $1,500 from Porsche of Annapolis online for my 2015 Cayenne S 3.6 turbo. Currently at the Porsche dealer for new TC case programming, new tires, front timing case bolt oil leak repair. TC in Annapolis, Maryland

[@thalo9237]

Hello, I live in the MD area also. I'm in the market for a Cayenne. I'm trying to decide between a 15 Turbo or a 16 GTS. I like both but both have different perks and benefits. Of course all around the Turbo would be top notch. But the GTS have a really nice exhaust note and I was told more reliable. Would you know personally or have any information on which one would be a better choice? Any information would be appreciated. Thanks!

[@megaman4201]

@@thalo9237 really comes down to the style of the GTS versus the power of the Turbo, which one is most important... And of course the GTS is pretty powerful also.

[@megaman4201]

@@thalo9237 and if you've narrowed it down between two specific cars I would lean heavily toward the one with the best service history.

[@johnsharpe814]

Bummer, I bought a used Cayenne Diesel with 62k miles on it. It had a shudder in the morning and changed the transfer case fluid. It's been fine ever since. At 110k miles I changed the transfer case fluid again. Still no issues.

[@bigfrank7179]

​@johnsharpe814 how often do you recommend to change the fluid? Thanks.

[@atanbarakatan338]

I’m so glad I came across this review. Thank you for allaying my concerns about owning a Cayenne. 👍🏼👍🏼

[@racekar80]

I have an 86 Carrera, a 2006 Carrera S, and a 2016 GT4. If you have a good independent mechanic it’s no worse than any other imported car. It’s absolutely no worse than an Audi, or Mercedes. I do my own oil changes.

[@Clintpoon]

Great video! Thank you!

[@coleeto2]

I’ve heard rumor you can get a Tourag dipstick from VW and check it yourself

[@maxenielsen]

I have a 2013 4Runner with 450K miles. Aside from consumables, I think the only thing needing replacement was the alternator. It cost me about $33K when it had about 30K miles on it in 2014. Having previously owned an Audi and an air-cooled VW, I learned to stay away from the brand. Yes, I enjoyed working on them. But as my Mom once said, I spent about as much time under them as in them. I would never own a Porsche. I’m an engineer and my passion for creating things that last is just too in conflict with the entire VW/Audi/Porsche way of doing things. (There - I stated my feelings without resorting to incivility and vulgarity. I think I’ll congratulate myself and enjoy the rest of my day.)

[@standingstonezseanroberts292]

Jiffy lube charges around 75 to 125 for an oil change

[@MrNanah38]

You really want to take your car to jiffy lube?

[@Mr_BUSINESS_24_7]

Get a transfer case from a Junk yard. And I heard that if the transfer case is properly maintained, then they don't have issues.

[@Brehon_TalkingFinance]

Watching this after being freaked out over my collect being low "do not drive" alarm..

[@HamidRHariri]

Good video. But dealer prices are 30%-60% off. It's much more (at least here in mid-Atlantic).

[@mydadvice]

Agreed, prices will vary wildly by region and it seems to be less near me. Hoping it still provides a decent basis of comparison for anyone considering!

[@wally6193]

Great video, so all that said would you buy another Cayenne?

[@mydadvice]

Thank you! Absolutely - the only time I've ever considered selling it was to get a newer Cayenne!

[@horacesawyer2487]

Excuse my ignorance is this gas or diesel? Never heard mention of either one.

[@mydadvice]

Good question, I forgot to mention it in the video! This is the base 3.6L gas engine!

[@efraingarfias7856]

Thank you. For the info. You know where to buy the tools to doy self? Pls let me know

[@rachiedempfit]

Could you link the items needed to do an oil change?

[@mydadvice]

Planning a separate vid for this!

[@GSXRMVDUCRD]

The car runs rough if you don't change the old at 5000 mi? Good comparison of dealer/independent/DIY/Aftermarket warranty repair costs!!

[@mydadvice]

I wouldn't say "rough" so much as "slightly less smooth". I'm an engineer and overly attentive to those things. Most people wouldn't notice much difference.

[@johnrobinson6882]

Is the coolant leak also a known issue with the V8 on the 2012 Cayenne S?

[@mydadvice]

I believe so. If it's not the same, they're probably extremely similar.

[@johnsharpe814]

I had what I thought was a slight coolant leak / gauge freak out dance around 70k miles on my 2013 Cayenne Diesel. An independent shop took off the intake I believe and replaced the thermostat / coolant. Haven't had an issue since and at 110k miles.

[@spacewizard69]

I have a Cayenne S 2011 (V8) 97000 miles on it and no problem she is purring like a kitten

[@Annie-mr9tq]

⁠​⁠@@johnsharpe814how has it been since? My coolant display / check engine went off on my 2012 s cayenne and took it to the shop 3 times and eventually gets the same issue. My check engine just went off again and I’m sure it’s due to the coolant. Decided to try out a different shop since first shop has obviously not figured the issue out.

[@EFF_Around-FindOut.]

thanks for video!

[@Mr_BUSINESS_24_7]

If Porsche is good about making customers come back, the why aren't they owning up to the defective coatings on their cylinder walls ? Why are they sticking it to the customer for scored cylinder bores when the issue is manufacturing defects ??

[@danceaction8548]

Porsche cayenne Oil change is $550 .. surprised to hear, your dealer do it for $225 !!!

[@adrianpetrica2297]

260£ my dealer ( UK)

[@littledovecitydust]

My dealer in Irvine charges $650

[@johnsharpe814]

I have a Cayenne Diesel and I believe the dealer was charging $600 in LA. Independent was $250, or $200 if I brought my own oil (Wanted the Mobile1 ESP as spec calls for). It takes 8 qts, and to do it myself is about $100. I don't mind. It is the best car I have ever owned.

[@danceaction8548]

@@johnsharpe814 kind of inline with what I paid today at Porsche dealership... 619 including tax

[@danceaction8548]

@@littledovecitydust yeah almost same for me.. I did my oil change today and paid $619... There was some discount they added which brought it down from $640 to $619 🤣

[@coleeto2]

Are all dealers that extreme? Or do you have a bad one in your area?

[@wynnsimpson]

2012 for $20k??? Is that correct?

[@mydadvice]

Yep, with warranty! Definitely scored a deal on this one. The market has dropped more for non-CPO cars!

[@wynnsimpson]

@@mydadvice Where did you buy it?

[@mydadvice]

@@wynnsimpson Statham Porsche in NH!

[@spacewizard69]

@@mydadvice i got a 2011 Cayenne S platinum edition with 19000$ with 91000 miles they are fun to drive

[@wzfellguard1]

When and where you find them - in EU they are 30k+ :/

[@kriskringle3164]

Dude, you got lucky that you didn't have to deal with some of the major failures. Plastic coolant pipes run through the middle of the engine and always fail, thats $3,700 plus you may as well replace the starter at the same time which is in the middle of the engine under the coolant popes. A starter is $1,500 just for the parts. The drive shaft also fails and is a common problem. But you only have to replace them once, so whoever had the car before you probably did them already or its a ticking time bomb ready to fail at any moment LOL.

[@ryanmatthew511]

All very bad information. All Porsche dealerships are $500 PLUS for an oil change. South Florida is $800 and up for a simple oil change. I disagree 100% on their standards. My leatehr dashboard is REALLY bad and they will not cover it

[@mmone1178]

Thank you for sharing

[@Hon_cb1kr]

According to Scotty Kilmer 8000$/yr maintenance cost 🤣🤣🤣. 10yrs ownership cost 80k$

[@spacewizard69]

that's BS

[@davidjones2059]

1-2k per yr

[@tomgrove7212]

@@davidjones2059 Don't think so

[@tomgrove7212]

Sounds high but Scotty would know. Even half of that is too much for me. I thought of buying one, but paying money out gets old quick

[@724tomjohnston]

@@tomgrove7212 Scotty is an idiot!

[@Notpeppita]

I found one for 14 very low mileage

[@kriskringle3164]

Dude, you cant add tools to the price of repairs LOL. Tires dont count either. Oil is OK for 10,000 miles, some say up to 20,000 miles. Cant really add in the oil either LOL. All cars need tires, oil and filter, air filters, spark plugs, washer fluid, etc... And dont get work done at the dealer, LOL.

[@Hon_cb1kr]

Get a set of crossclimate2 SUV, bruh..

[@Mr_BUSINESS_24_7]

Porsche tire: $642.00 Corolla tire: $72.00

[@samwinther4624]

Well this made me not wanting to buy one tbh 😅

[@juanj.3549]

This guy is definitely "El Cheapo" 😂

[@mydadvice]

More like "El Broke-O" but you're not far off 🤣

[@brucewingate9708]

good information - thank you. Need some tips on making videos...and the continual head/hand movement gets annoying to watch.

[@castoresnegros]

There is nothing wrong with driving a rusty dodge caravan !!🤣🤣🤣

[@TYAC_red]

Sounds like a lot of hassles.

[@williamkerner]

The word of the day is....Toyota.

[@bowingtotheancestors2366]

Ladies, stay single. It’s safe and peaceful.

[@wally6193]

brake fluid flush, lol, that's a BS service. My 2003 4runner has never had a brake fluid flush and it's got some of the best brakes I ever driven. My mechanic friend(50"years experience) laughed at me when I asked him about brake fluid flush,

[@mydadvice]

I boiled the brake fluid doing an emergency stop after someone ran a red light - it was needed at that point. Agreed it's not needed for regular conditions.

[@neogeogt]

Lol all manufacturers say to replace every two years. It sucks in moisture over time and starts to break down seal. You make it sound like a conspiracy theory.

[@tomgrove7212]

It is BS even though it is recommended by every mfg. .you would not boil the fluid even if it was raced around a track. you

[@wally6193]

@@tomgrove7212 I think the main argument is it absorbs water over time, but most brake systems are sealed with the exception of the reservoir, which has a sealed lid/cover so it doesn't absorb water/humidity.

[@shenodwarka]

save yourself run away

[@jorgemedina9650]

Get a Toyota...😅😂🤣

[@vonbraun8051]

I'm a Toyota guy, too, bott--I've spent about $7,000 on repairs for my FJ Cruiser over the last 5 years. I also own a Porsche Cayenne diesel which has cost nothing (in repairs) during the same period. Love both cars but in my case my Japanese car has been more trouble than my German car. So, you never know.

[@TracyMNelson]

@@vonbraun8051 Can confirm. Had the transfer case go out on my '14 Subaru Outback, cost me $4K. Also took me over three hours to replace the plugs (3.6R). Transfer case on my '14 Cayenne GTS went out and was replaced under warranty. Replaced the plugs myself in just over two hours. Brakes and oil changes are about the same. Paid $24K for the Subaru and $30K for the Cayenne, well worth the extra money for the Porsche.

[@shenodwarka]

sound like a very bad car

[@solomecha279]

Ohh wow, there are so much misleading advertisements going on here 😳 I argue it's easier to raise a child for 5 years than to own Porsche 🤷‍♂️

[@mydadvice]

How is this misleading? It breaks down actual cost regardless of how you maintain your vehicle, then compares to the real cost of a comparable age vehicle from a more "affordable" brand. None of this is sponsored and I make no money from my content. Kinda hard to say that's an advertisement unless you didn't watch the full video...

[@skinnyphuqer]

i was considering one of these until you said there’s no oil dipstick. that’s just ridiculous

[@Euro316]

You check it via the screen. Pretty common on 90% of new cars these days.